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Speaker 1: we're gonna grade all the teams in the conference. And

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Speaker 1: also we have a new champion in the conference. We

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Speaker 1: seeming league decade. We have a new seller dweller team,

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Speaker 1: and one defensive coordinator resides and maybe there should be

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Speaker 1: too And of course the Pack twelve power rankings. I'm

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Speaker 1: George Rice with Ralph Ampston and this is the Pack

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Speaker 1: twelve apostles Ralph. After Week six in the Pac twelve,

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Speaker 1: But there is a side note. Arizona, who we thought

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Speaker 1: resetting that bone. They are going to start to look

430
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: more like a chip Kelly team as long as you

431
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: have the patients to get through what is going to

432
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: be some very very ugly football. And they're in the

433
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: ugly part of it. And and a lot of people

434
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: don't have the stomach for that, especially in today's day

435
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: and age, because if something looks really, really bad, you

436
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: start to panic and think, you know, it's it's unsalvageable.

437
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: It's that moment when you're underwater and you're holding your

438
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: breath and it hits you, and then it's all instinct

439
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: like get to the service, get to the surface, and

440
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: that might ultimately be where you know u c l

441
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: A Boosters and u c l A Fans end up

442
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: as this season progresses. But I don't think that they

443
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: should because I I don't unless they're gonna go young,

444
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. I don't think that there's

445
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: a better option for them out there right now. And

446
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna hire Chip Kelly, you have to commit

447
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: to his process. Otherwise it's not Chip Kelly that looks bad.

448
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: He has like two buyouts, uh that he could just

449
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: fall back on, and if they want to give him

450
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: a third one, then you know he can. You Chick

451
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 1: Kelly can do that breaking bad thing where where the

452
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: dude just goes backwards under the big pile of cash

453
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: like Chip, except Chick Kelly can have like twin mattresses,

454
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: like he can have multiple beds around the room. He

455
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: he has so much money. It's not he's not going

456
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: to lose. That team might be losing on the field,

457
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: but Chip Kelly is in a position in his life

458
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: right now where there is no losing. So if you're

459
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: gonna hire him, you've got to stick this process out

460
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: or you're the one that's going to suffer. You're the

461
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: one that's gonna end up looking bad. And so I

462
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: would just have say, exercise patients, if you were going

463
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: to bring him in and the way that he recruits

464
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: and the way that he does things, you have to

465
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 1: have a three or four year commitment before you even

466
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: open up the idea of you know, are we going

467
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: to make a change. And I always felt like going

468
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: into year two is when it was going to look

469
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: the absolute worst. And it looks really bad. Oh well,

470
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's weird because they look atrocious on defense.

471
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: I have not seen a less physical, a more undisciplined,

472
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: bad scheme having team in a long time. They but

473
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: offensively they look better. I mean even with the backup

474
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: quarterback Burton, he was pretty good. Put up thirty one.

475
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: Probably is you gave up forty eight. I mean it

476
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: is just like you can't win with this type of defense.

477
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: You just can't. And that brings us to u c

478
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: l a's defensive coordinator Jerry as a Narrow And the

479
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: reason why he's brought up, why why we bring up coaches,

480
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: is because he is the leader of it and you had.

481
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: This same week, Tracy Clay's, the defensive coordinator at Washington State, resigned.

482
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: He resigned. Some people speculated that it was for health reasons,

483
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. He put out a tweet zick, thank

484
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: you coach Leaks for the opportunity. I didn't resign for

485
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: health or personal reasons. The defense has struggled and I

486
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: am responsible. We couldn't agree on solutions, so the speed

487
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: D is better with new leadership. I love the players

488
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: and staff. Can I jump in and talk about this

489
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: is my favorite? This is this is the best. Uh,

490
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: and let me tell you why number one gratitude. Gratitude

491
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: is the most important thing in life, hands down. And

492
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: you can weigh in on whether or not you believe

493
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: their sincerity in this, but I think that you should

494
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: always lead with gratitude. He thanks coach Leech. Love that

495
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: it was an opportunity that was given to him by

496
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: Coach Leech. He did what he could with it. UM

497
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: be grateful. He says, I didn't resign for health and

498
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: personal reasons, so he's honest. I love the honesty. The

499
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: defense has struggled, and I am responsible. There's nothing better

500
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: in this world than taking ownership over over issues. Some

501
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: people maybe do it to call attention to themselves to

502
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: garner sympathy. I don't believe that's the case at this

503
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 1: point or the point in this case. I think he

504
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: is saying that this is on me. I'm responsible for

505
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: this defense. They are underperforming, and so ultimately, at the

506
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: end of the day, that belongs to me. That's my

507
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: bag to hold. We couldn't agree on solutions, so the

508
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: speed d is better with new leadership. So even he's

509
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: willing to go out of his way and say like, hey,

510
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: everybody has to be on the same page, and it's

511
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: her for the players if they're on the same page.

512
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: And then he finishes up by saying I love the

513
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: players and staff and then encouraging them, saying that they'll

514
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: finish strong, and Gokus like, you could not go out

515
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: the door anymore graceful than he did. And you know

516
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: that this wasn't a graceful process. In order for something

517
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: like this to come to a head, there probably had

518
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: to be some really, really tough moments, some really tough moments.

519
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: He didn't want to not work there, right, He wanted

520
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: to finish this season off. He's making a really good salary,

521
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: but he steps away from that position. Yeah, but is

522
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: is this a is this a stupid move? Is the

523
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: is the question? And the only reason why I asked

524
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: that is because you talked about the honorable thing. The

525
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: honorable thing. Okay, I get it, But my question has

526
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: to do with his bio. Whether this was a mutual

527
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: decision and he's getting some sort of buy out to

528
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: a leave because who leaves their up a hundred thousand

529
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: dollars a year job or a few hundred thousands he's

530
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator for just because you feel like you

531
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: weren't doing a good enough job. Because coaches contracts are

532
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: guaranteed or or or or at least some portion of them.

533
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: The majority of them are fully guaranteed or guaranteed to

534
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: a portion, you know, depending on the year and all

535
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: that stuff. But they're mostly guaranteed. So is this a

536
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: wise move or do you think? I don't know? Pride

537
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: is a weird thing. Okay, I was it? Did I

538
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: see you tweeting earlier today about Stefon Diggs eating two

539
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars just to not show up to practice. Mhm,

540
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: So pride is a really really strange thing. Um, Tracy

541
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: Clay has got a raise going into this season. It

542
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: wasn't a big raise, but it was you know, he

543
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: got a he got an extra thousand thrown his way. UM.

544
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't it's smarred him. He was

545
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: sometimes your pride to that same honestly, with full conviction.

546
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: We do for the team, you take one for the team.

547
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: I think the people will look at what he did

548
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: last year and this year UM for Washington State and

549
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: realize that the only way that an air raid is

550
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: ever able to be competitive is if the defense can

551
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: stop somebody to put the offense on the field at

552
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: some point, you know. And so I think that he's

553
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: probably a guy who will be in demand, especially to

554
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: leave the way he did to say, you know, this

555
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: team is still going to be good. I was responsible

556
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: for the for the mistakes, UM. And you know, I

557
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: think that that will send a signal to other people

558
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: who are looking to hire somebody that like, hey, this

559
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: is a guy that that we can trust to take

560
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: ownership over the situation. When you say, like, was it

561
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: dumb of him to do that? I don't know. You know,

562
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: it depends on what his goals are and who he

563
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: is as a person. If he's looking to build generational

564
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: wealth so that his grandkids, grandkids, you know, never have

565
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: to work about where their next meal is coming from,

566
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: then maybe it's not smart to leave money on the table.

567
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: But then again, if Washington State is sort of a

568
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: sinking ship and things are falling apart, and the only

569
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: way for both Washington State to hold it together and

570
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: for Tracy Clay's to have an opportunity in the future

571
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: in the future is to sever that relationship so that

572
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: they can both move forward, then maybe it's incredibly wise.

573
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: I just love the way he went about it, and

574
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: I love what he said. What he said is I mean,

575
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: it was super refreshing. And I am not an optimist.

576
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: I am not somebody who was without like extreme cynicism

577
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to especially coaches. I have a healthy,

578
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: ingrained distrust of authority, and this still spoke to me.

579
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: I loved it. Yeah, I loved it too. I love

580
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he did take accountability, did the right

581
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he did what what he felt was was right.

582
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: So now going back to U c l A. Though

583
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: my question about Tip Kelly and U. C l A

584
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: talking about the DC situation, The defensive coordinator. So it's

585
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Jerry as an Arrow. And I'm wondering because Chip Kelly

586
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a history of firing guys. But at

587
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: Oregon he didn't need to because they were winning so

588
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: many games and people were just leaving for new jobs everybody.

589
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: You know, when teams win, everybody gets hired. All you're

590
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: always replacing your staff. Look at Alabama, Look at Clemson

591
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: except for their defensive coordinator. So you're always replacing people.

592
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: But will Chip Kelly, big Ball chip Kelly be willing

593
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: to fire his friends because so many of the people

594
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: in his staff, including Um as an Arrow. You have

595
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: a Don Pelham, you have other guys who were on

596
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: his staff at Oregon or have coached with him other places.

597
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: The defense looks atrocious. Will he be willing to fire

598
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: his friends to get a new defensive coordinator in a

599
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: new scheme? Yeah? I mean Jeffrey Lourie of the Eagles

600
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: is forever regretted the fact that he gave full personnel

601
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: control to Chip Kelly. Um. You know, control has always

602
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: been a thing with with Chip Kelly. I mean, there's

603
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: a book about him called Controlled Chaos, and control is

604
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: right there in the name you know, I I think

605
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: that it's gonna be tough for Chip Kelly to find

606
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: people that he trusts. One time, and Todd Graham got

607
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: killed for this for the rest of his coaching career

608
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: in Arizona State by other people in the coaching community. UM.

609
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: But I think that in his transition from pit to

610
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Arizona State, he called assistant coaches mercenaries, and to some extent,

611
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: that's kind of what they are. UM because you're but

612
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: but so is everybody right, and a appolist society, you

613
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: can't necessarily focus on those things. But you know, control

614
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: is really important for a guy like Chip Kelly. There's

615
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: not a lot of people that maybe he feels like

616
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: he can trust. And that's tough at the collegiate level

617
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: when everybody's sort of using it as a platform to

618
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: move on to the next thing. You know, you're talking about.

619
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: So could you? Could you? Could you? Ralph? Could you

620
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: fire your friend? Is the question? Could you fire somebody

621
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: that you know that you've known for a long time

622
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: because they're not getting their job done coaching? If if

623
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: you were the head coach, could you fire your Yes,

624
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: I could do it. And here's what And I'm married

625
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,800
Speaker 1: a very smart and capable woman who is both a

626
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: very artistic person as well as like a business executive.

627
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I've noticed in in

628
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: following her career she's sort of moved up the ranks

629
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: is she does something that not a lot of other

630
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: people do. She fires people. And and you know, nobody

631
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: really likes to be like that that that person. Nobody

632
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: likes that person. Nobody likes to be that person that

633
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: some the executioner. Right, everybody is afraid of the executioner,

634
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: and the executioner always has a hood on because executioner

635
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: doesn't want people to know who he is either. Right.

636
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: But one thing that that my wife told me and

637
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: has taught me over the last few years. I'm gonna

638
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: sound super whipped by saying this, but I don't care.

639
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: I don't have anybody impressed. She has taught me that

640
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: if you truly love the people around you, you will

641
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: put them in positions to succeed, especially if they have

642
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: not put themselves in a position to succeed. And so

643
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: the thing that she always says is nobody that you

644
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: fire should ever be surprised by it. Never The expectations

645
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: should always be laid out there, and you should always

646
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: be tracking whether there's a gap between the expectations and

647
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: the reality. And so nobody that you you fire unless

648
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: it's for some like egregious thing that that that that

649
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: pops up out of nowhere that was deceitful or disruptive. Um,

650
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: nobody should ever be surprised by it. Yeah, but they

651
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: still know that they were going to give you. Yeah right, yeah,

652
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: you would still you would still have to know that

653
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a surprise to them. But anybody that she's

654
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 1: coaching or she's in charge over she's let go. It's

655
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: been a thing where it said like all right, well,

656
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: these are the expectations the company sets them, and so

657
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,959
Speaker 1: if you don't meet these expectations, then this is the consequence.

658
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: How can I help you either a meet these expectations

659
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: or be transition to somewhere where you can meet their expectations.

660
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: And it sounds cold blooded, but I've watched over the

661
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: years of like people that she's fired that have been

662
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: pissed in the moment, like write her a thank you,

663
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: let her three or four years down the road saying

664
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: like I wasn't happy you noticed you tried to let

665
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: me know and now I'm in this position and I'm

666
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: doing I'm doing better, like I'm doing better for myself,

667
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: And so I don't think that I would have been

668
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: able to do something like that, because you want to

669
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: be liked and and some and in in other situations

670
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: you just want like a bad dad bob around you. Right,

671
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: You're either a control freak or you you want to

672
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: be popular. Either way, it's tough to let people go um.

673
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: And and I think for Chick Kelly, he's not the

674
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: kind of guy that would just use Jerry as an

675
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: arrow as a sacrificial lamb. And also I think he'd

676
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: be afraid about what's on the other side of that

677
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: if he did. And I think another thing that I'm

678
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: curious and you bringing up is that maybe Jerry Asnaro's

679
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: middle name is at trick. I'll let you figure that

680
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: one out on your own, but I think that will

681
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: bring it to your next point. So I hope he

682
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: is ready to make some serious moves. Way, hold up,

683
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: tell me, what what does a trick mean? Oh? Yes,

684
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: so that's funny. So that is the next point about

685
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: U c l A's coaching staff. Their staff is really old.

686
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate it's the true they have an

687
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: old coaching staff and this is a young man's game.

688
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: Recruiting is done via social media. Now it's not just

689
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: phone calls, text messages. It is done on social media,

690
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: with edits and with direct messages, you know all of that.

691
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: You have to be popping on social media for kids

692
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: to really really connect with you and your program. And

693
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: U c l A staff is old. They are not

694
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: of the Twitter generation. They are they are face blainer's,

695
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: face tube watchers. They they're not sure. I mean, even

696
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: though they know how to use it, they're not actual

697
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: um like, they're not in the end crowd in that.

698
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: So if you are a coach now, I think that

699
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: you have to pay attention to keeping young people on

700
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: the staff. Look at Oregon's recruiting, Look at Washington's recruiting.

701
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: They have young coaches on their staff thirties early forties,

702
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: like people who actually play with these devices and would

703
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: be on social media regardless of being coaches and trying

704
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: to recruit. They would be on their talking to their friends,

705
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: sending viral stuff, sending you know, memes, all of that,

706
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: and you see it. Likes coaches are not like. I

707
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: think that that plays a big part and why they

708
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: are having trouble. Do you agree, Ralph? Maybe? I mean

709
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't like to be like just blatantly ages, but

710
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: there are that you do wonder. You know, Jerry Aznaro

711
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: graduated from American International College three years before that whole

712
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: Apple uh commercial where you threw them the PC through

713
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: the window or whatever like that. It's it's not it

714
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: doesn't necessary really need to be a young man's game

715
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective, but you have to have the

716
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: type of personality and and uh persona that can understand

717
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: and vibe with the modern game. You know, I think

718
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: her medwhids is sixty four. They just brought Marvin Lewis

719
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: on staff. Um, you know they're they're older guys. You know,

720
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: Charlie Fisher, Rob Lindsay got gray hair. But Arizona State

721
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: staff kind of tends to be younger and more energetic

722
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: and more open and understand. You know, remember remember when

723
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: Jim Borra kind of bashed Josh Rosen for saying that,

724
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: like Josh Rosen is a millennial. He just needs to

725
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: know why. You know that for the coaches that that

726
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: are teachers, because that's what a freaking coach is is

727
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: you are a teacher. Your whole job has always been

728
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: to treat your players like millennials. You don't just show

729
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: them what to do, you tell them why they're doing it.

730
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: That's the whole point of being a coach, like millennials should.

731
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: And it sucks that more millennials aren't playing sports because

732
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you would naturally transition into it because it is an

733
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: immediate gratification type thing. You do the right thing, you

734
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: see the right results, which trains your mind to want

735
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: to do the right thing, and you get you get

736
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: sort of that instant rush from like, oh I was

737
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: taught a thing, I did it well, I got a

738
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: pad on the back for it, and you move on

739
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: to the next thing like sports has. This is the

740
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: golden age of of you know, millennials and sports should

741
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: be intertwined, and they're not really m because you know,

742
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: for for whatever reason, but like coaching and teaching have

743
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: always gone hand in hand. And unless you're do as

744
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: I say, not as I do, or you know, sit

745
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: at the kid's table and be seen and not heard

746
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: type type coach, then your age should never be a

747
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: problem because your job has always been to understand who

748
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: you're trying to teach and how learn and then finding

749
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: a way to get that done. So age shouldn't be

750
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: an issue in coaching. We see what Pete Carroll does,

751
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: we see what her Edwards has has been doing. UM.

752
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: And as as long as you understand that things change

753
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: and it's your job to figure out how to teach

754
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,240
Speaker 1: people regardless of how things are changing, you should be fine.

755
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: When we look at Chip Kelly, it is sort of

756
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: more of a my way or the highway type situation. UM.

757
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: But so I don't know, I don't know. Can age

758
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: contribute to a lack of success when your responsibilities are

759
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: just relating to kids in general? Yeah, I mean especially

760
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: when you're recruiting. Philosophy is meet all of our standards

761
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: before will welcome you into the family. When a lot

762
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: of these kids just want to be courted, like they

763
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: want to be convinced. And so I think more of

764
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: the issue would just have to be UM. And Chip

765
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: Kelly's a military guy, right, Like he's got a military background.

766
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of it would just be

767
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: more um how stringent and closed off he is, So

768
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: I think he also only closes recruits from what I've heard,

769
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't participate in the recruiting process, he just

770
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: comes in to say, like, welcome to u c l a.

771
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: Once they once they are ready to go ahead and

772
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: make that make that commitment. So if you're going to

773
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: be that way, then you needn be surrounded by people

774
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: who are sort of the freshman Yeah, that's the core

775
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: of their team. And some sophomores who he recruited, like

776
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: the juniors and seniors that were on this team are

777
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: either not there anymore or they're on the bitch for

778
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: them for the most part. So he came in, he

779
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: came in, he cut two kids that I know, like

780
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: immediately to offensive linemen from Sorrel High School down here,

781
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: and you know, both of those guys are pretty banged up,

782
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: and they were had me to take their scholarship and

783
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: stay at u c l a UM. But he came

784
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: in with the mindset that we're just going to call

785
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: the fat right away, and I think he made a

786
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: maybe did a little bit too much of that. And

787
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,959
Speaker 1: that's also not a thing that I like to see

788
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: because just because they're not your guys. If you go

789
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: in and you kick a bunch of people off the

790
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: team because they're not your guys, you are admitting there

791
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: is a deficiency in your ability to teach. That isn't

792
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: that is see see I don't agree with that, only

793
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: because some players don't fit your style and some players

794
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: don't fit your your system, and that's just what it is.

795
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: But sometimes you're gonna need those bodies. And if you,

796
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't win somebody over, how are

797
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: you gonna win games, especially in college football. And so

798
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: if you come in paranoid that like, oh, these are

799
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: more as guys. You know, the reason that I was

800
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: hired in the first places because the culture was bad here.

801
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: And if you believe that the fish rocks from the head,

802
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: and if you're gonna be like Tracy Clay's and say like, well,

803
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: the person in charge is the one that's responsible for this,

804
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: then take some responsibility and you try to inject some

805
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: new culture into the players that you have on board.

806
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 1: I didn't honestly, I didn't like it when her Edwards

807
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: came in and did it at Arizona State either, you know,

808
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: and and and got rid of a bunch of guys.

809
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't a huge fan of that. But at least

810
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: they came in with the mindset of like, hey, we're

811
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: gonna be open and honest with you, um and we're

812
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: gonna tell you whether or not you have a you

813
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: have a future here. I felt like U c l

814
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: A did it more of a like, hey, I'm here.

815
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: This is the way it is now. I'm not going

816
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: to give you the opportunity to, you know, to to

817
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: say that you want to be a part of this

818
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: or not. I'm just gonna move my stuff into the

819
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: living room and eventually I expect your stuff to be

820
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: out by the morning. And I just don't know if

821
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: thats set a really good precedent when you can only

822
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: have eighty five scholarships and injuries are a thing, especially

823
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: when you're playing young guys. They're gonna get injured. I

824
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, depth is a among everything else,

825
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: talent and all that depth is a huge issue for

826
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: U c l A uh one, And I guess we'll

827
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: start with that game today. Oregon State forty eight, U

828
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: c l A thirty one. This literally changed the bottom

829
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: of the pack twelve Power rankings. Oregon State has been

830
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: at the bottom for I mean, this is only their

831
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: second conference win in three years, only the second conference

832
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: win so so they've been at the bottom like, it's

833
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: been clear, it's been evident, there's been no doubt, and

834
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: now there's a new team at the bottom Ralph. When

835
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: I got to this game yester yesterday, I pulled up

836
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: So if anybody has been to the Rose Bowl, you

837
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: generally have to park a decent amount of ways from

838
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: the decent walk away from the stadium. We pulled up

839
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: into the parking lot because we came from my son's

840
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: game at at kickoff. Basically when we got when we

841
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: got to our seats, there was six minutes gone in

842
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: the first quarter, so there was nine minutes to go

843
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: in the first quarter. Do you know what the score was, Ralph,

844
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: literally with eight fifty nine in the in the first

845
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: quarter to go in the first quarter. Yes, zero. That

846
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: is probably the fact I've walked into the stadium. But

847
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: as I was walking through the tunnel, I was checking

848
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: the score in the Oregon game because I was watching

849
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: it on my phone, but I was carrying the baby,

850
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: so I had to put it down for a second.

851
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch it. And when I looked at my

852
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: phone and the score flashed on the bottom, I was like, hell, no,

853
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: there's zero chances twenty one that the game just started.

854
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and mind you, there were no turnovers in

855
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: the process, none, and they were up and I was

856
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: just like, this is but my initial thought was Okay,

857
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: they got them right where they want them because they

858
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: because they went they got seven. Then they gave up

859
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: a score twenty seven seven, and then it was seventeen,

860
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, oh, oh, here comes a comeback.

861
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah right, nope, that this team can't stop a nosebleed.

862
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: And Dorrian Thompson Robinson, he did not play. And now

863
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: you see l A is one in five, one and

864
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: two in the conference, and Oregon State there's two and

865
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: three and one and one in the conference. Rob I

866
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: was looking at the stats, U c l A rest

867
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: for more yards, have more first downs. They're only through

868
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: for a few yards less there. You know, like if

869
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: you just looked at the stats, you would not think

870
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: that they should have lost this game. They won the

871
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: time and put possession, even though that that's not necessarily

872
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: a determination between winning and losing, and they gave up

873
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: zero points off of turnovers. So I can I can't

874
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: even make sense of this. I don't know what to

875
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: tell you, man. The I've been waiting for somebody I've

876
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: been waiting for somebody to go out and just run

877
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: the ball at U c l A and use the

878
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: run to set up the past because for some reason,

879
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Washington State he wanted to run their offense regardless of

880
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: whether or not they had built a thirty some point lead. Uh,

881
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: and it came back to bite them, you know, and

882
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: and and Stanford did what they did. But you know,

883
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, not Stanford, but um uh Arizona. You know,

884
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Arizona came in and they threw the ball twenty nine

885
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: times in the first half. And so I've been waiting

886
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: for a team to just go out and treat U

887
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: c l A like what they are, which is just

888
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: a rusty turnstyle on defense. And Oregon State did that

889
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 1: and then they were and and Jake Luton was efficient

890
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: and through five touchdowns and this was just, I mean,

891
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: this was a blood bath because it should have been.

892
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: U c l A is not a good team right now.

893
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: And Oregon State has two or three guys that are

894
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 1: at an all pack twelve level and could be playing

895
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: for anybody. They got two running backs, a receiver, and

896
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 1: an outside linebacker who are probably all amongst the top

897
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: thirty players in the pack twelve and so you know,

898
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: if you go out there and you just played your

899
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: strengths and you lean on that. And if they need speed,

900
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: they've got Tae John Lindsay. And if they need dependability,

901
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: they've got Kobe Taylor. And if they need a spark, uh,

902
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: they got the little Champ Flemmings. And if you just

903
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: need a first down, Isaiah Hodgens is your guy. So

904
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm well, well, I I think he was

905
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: more than just a first down. He get t catch

906
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes you need a first down on first down

907
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: and he's that guy. And the crazy part was you

908
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: are right about the rushing game because Oregon st they

909
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: average five rushing yards per game five and per carry,

910
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: like per game. I was like, damn five yeah yeah

911
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: five yeah five for yeah five per carry? And I

912
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: mean and think they think about it. Jamaar Jefferson only

913
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: touched the ball five times, so like this was all

914
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: Artavius Pierce uh, even Jake Luke uh Lutton luten like

915
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putina okay okay or or or door number three

916
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: um loo loo. My my wife always makes fun of

917
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 1: me because some things, So I say things like valium

918
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: and all this stuff and this is one of these

919
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: things with with his name that for some reason I'm

920
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: having a little bit of trouble with. But whatever. That's

921
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: almost like when we got the email, did I did?

922
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: I say? Yeah? Yeah, And also about me saying calling

923
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Tyrone Tye oh lord uh the U TAK coach with

924
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: top ty Whittingham. Yes. Yes. And the reason why, just

925
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: so everybody is clear, is because when I say when

926
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 1: I think of witting Whittingham, I'm thinking of Tyrone Willingham,

927
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: the coach from Standing. Oh my gosh, all these names

928
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,399
Speaker 1: are screwing with my mind right now. So anyways, let's

929
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: get back to the got you just every time that

930
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: happens to be like, man, I got a baby. I

931
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: got a baby. I barely slept, I was I was

932
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: on radio at five in the morning. I'm doing I'm

933
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: leaning on it. I got I got four kids. They're

934
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 1: on fall break right now. My wife's in Chicago. Like

935
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm even making words, I'm proud of me.

936
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: You don't need to be proud of me. So yeah,

937
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: So Oregan organ state is still not great, but U

938
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: c l A is worse. And I thought that this

939
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: year after U c l A losing, you know, six

940
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: or seven games last year by twenty five or more points,

941
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: that their goals should be to stay close and try

942
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: to sneak a couple out. And they almost snuck the

943
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: Stanford game out and they beat U c l A.

944
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: So now they're going to when you talk heads up

945
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: to corballas next year, next year, next week, that is

946
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: a trap game. But we can move on to the

947
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: next game, the Arizona Amsden's Amsden Wildcats versus the Colorado Buffaloes.

948
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: And this game went kind of how we thought it was.

949
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: We thought it would be a high scoring game, but

950
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: I guess we found out our Khalil tate um conspiracy

951
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: theory was was not true because he came out, he

952
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: played played well, and I was just waiting on Ralph

953
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: to just I know he was just basking in his

954
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: own glory because he had Lil Tate play well, played

955
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: pretty pretty well except for the very end of the

956
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: game where he almost tried to give it away and

957
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: he had U. C l A lose big. So I

958
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: was like, he's just he's just rolling around like against

959
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: right now. I honestly like, I don't I don't like

960
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: to gloat that much. And and Cliltate did a couple

961
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: of things in this game that we're just mind bogglingly stupid,

962
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: and so I can't you know, I'm I'm, I'm. If

963
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on him, I gotta be, you know,

964
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: his toughest critic as well. But the truth of the

965
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: matter is, it's what did I do? Uh that it

966
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: was now Boulder col il Rado that they have to

967
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: change the name to because this dude owns the Buffaloes.

968
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna rattle off the stats. Just just

969
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: know he's only thrown for over four hundred yards once ever,

970
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: and it was on Saturday. And before that, he had

971
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: only gone over like three fifty uh twice, one versus

972
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: Hawaii in a comeback attempt at the beginning of this year,

973
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: and the other time was against Colorado. And he got

974
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: his start rushing for over three twenty yards against Colorado.

975
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: So they are done. They are done with him. They

976
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: never have to face him again. So congratulations to Colorado,

977
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: You're finally rid of him. Um, he had a couple

978
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: of bad mistakes in the game. He just gifted the

979
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: buffalo Is a touchdown right before halftime, and then he

980
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: came out and he threw seventy five yard touchdown on

981
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: the very next play. UM, so I mean you you

982
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: get what you get with him. He's probably not fully

983
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: healthy because you know, he had a good run to

984
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 1: start the game and then he finished the game with

985
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: a run with an emphatic first down run, which is

986
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: pretty cool. But this Colorado defense isn't that good. Had

987
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: he done anything less than what he did yesterday, I

988
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: think that there would have been a reason to probably

989
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: criticize um his effort. I was, this is what I

990
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: believe he should be doing. He he should be scaring

991
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: defenses into giving him the ability to hit open receivers. Um.

992
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: So the calil tatee that showed up yesterday is the

993
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: call tape that I expect to continue to show up.

994
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: But this defense is what what what? What? Do the

995
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: kids say? It's boo boo, it's very bad. Um, they

996
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: say it's trash. He's trash. This Arizona defense is not

997
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:18,439
Speaker 1: very good. Um, it's not very deep. They've got injury issues. Uh,

998
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: they could, they could have some serious trouble down the line.

999
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: So it kind of doesn't really matter to me. The

1000
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: rest of the way, what calil Tate does, because they're

1001
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: about to really like enter the danger zone as far

1002
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: as their schedule goes. And I think he's gonna have

1003
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: some good statistical performances. Um, but I honestly, George, I

1004
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: don't even know if he finishes the year at quarterback

1005
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: because there is something. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I

1006
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: think that you see it, and everybody else who follows

1007
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: this program sees it too. I don't think this coaching

1008
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: staff likes him very much. I don't think that they

1009
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: want him at quarterback. After the game the Pact, the

1010
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: Pact twelve, reporter was asked, you know, um, what about

1011
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: Khalil Tate? You know what, you made the decision for

1012
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: him to go and and and Kevin someone like instantly

1013
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 1: changed the subject, like immediately changed the subject to not

1014
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: have to talk about Cliltate. Then she went over to

1015
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: ask Khalil Tate, like, what made you decide that you

1016
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: were ready to play? Because he was a game time decision.

1017
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: And he said, you're gonna have to ask coach someone

1018
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: that question. And so you know, and I and all

1019
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: harkens back to me remembering the very very first moment

1020
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: in my head of Kevin Sumlin coming to Arizona. He

1021
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: got like interviewed at an Arizona basketball game after being hired,

1022
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: and he called Khalil Tate Khalil Mack and it was

1023
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: just from oh yeah, It's just from that point on,

1024
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: it was just like, man, this dude does not they

1025
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: They they have Khalil Tate there because they have to.

1026
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if they don't finish the

1027
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: season with him. It just something seems off to me. Man,

1028
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: something seems seriously off. He should be the guy. He

1029
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: they should be, you know, celebrating him that relationships teams.

1030
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: I see the way they ran the offense when he

1031
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: wasn't on the field was just it was a completely

1032
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: different animal. Everything to me seems like they just can't

1033
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: wait to move on from him. And if they hit

1034
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: a rough patch, if they lose a couple of games,

1035
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna matter what he does. Statistically,

1036
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: I think eventually you're gonna see Arizona maybe make that

1037
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: transition into who it is they're going to be instead

1038
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: of sticking with who they are right now. And it's

1039
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: a weird prediction for me to make because I am

1040
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: not into conspiracy theories or gossip or you know, all

1041
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff like that. There's no inside information here,

1042
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: It's just a vibe I'm picking up is that this

1043
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: is not this is not gonna work out well for

1044
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: Arizona down the stretch fields. Weird to say that about

1045
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 1: a four and one team coming off a good win

1046
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: where Klot just through for four yards. But I'm telling

1047
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: you something's like, something is wrong. They got to go

1048
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: to Seattle. They have to go to Seattle next week

1049
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: to play Washington. Then they go at USC at Stanford,

1050
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: Oregon State, then Oregon and then Utah and Arizona State.

1051
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: You are right, that is a murderers row at that point.

1052
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: Like you you you don't get a week off, you

1053
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: don't get time to just you know, collect yourself. And

1054
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: there is a chance that they could drop uh three

1055
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 1: three in a row or three or four and yeah,

1056
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: and you could be absolutely right about that. But I

1057
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: wanted to talk talk about Colorado for a second. They're

1058
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: doing all this without Chinault. I'm not even gonna try

1059
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: to say is his first first name right now because

1060
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: this is just dude. I I have to realize my

1061
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: limitations with with fatigue and with everything else. I got

1062
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: going on. I have to realize, so I'm not even

1063
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna make anybody upset today. So but with Colorado, though,

1064
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: I love the direction that they are headed, this team

1065
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: feels like they are competing hard. They dropped another close

1066
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: game that they could have won. They to Arizona and

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01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: it just Anesota said. They lost thirty five to thirty.

1068
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: And the previous week they lost by three to Arizona State.

1069
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, no no, I'm sorry. They beat Arizona State and

1070
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 1: then they but the week before that they lost the

1071
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: Air Force thirty to twenty three. And the resounding theme

1072
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: with this team is defense. They gave up thirty one

1073
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: to Colorado State, thirty one to Nebraska, thirty to air Force,

1074
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: thirty one that Arizona State, and thirty five to Arizona

1075
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a like, who do you think

1076
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: at this point besides the u c l A has

1077
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: the worst defense in the Pac twelve. It's gott I mean,

1078
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: you got to flip a coin between Oregon State and

1079
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: Colorado I think, and maybe Washington States up there because

1080
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: you have the resignation or whatever. And obviously they gave

1081
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: up a million points to u c l A. But

1082
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't have any faith in this Colorado defense. Uh.

1083
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: They got a couple of good players, but Mustafa not

1084
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: being out there. You know, Landman is a linebacker. He's

1085
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: not gonna be the cover deep routes. Um. They don't

1086
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: get a ton of pressure on the quarterback, UM, unless

1087
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: it's like an obvious pin your ears back and and

1088
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: and rush the quarterbacks third and ten situation like they

1089
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: did at the end of the game against a s U. UM.

1090
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: There are issues. I don't know if they're talent or schematic.

1091
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: I guess maybe time will tell. It feels like they've

1092
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: got some good players out there, UM, but I'm not

1093
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: really sure. They've played against some talented UH offenses as well.

1094
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: And then you've got the gimmicky air force stuff going on.

1095
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: So maybe we'll we'll see if they kind of figure

1096
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: things out UM down the line, or if it continues

1097
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: to be their achilles heel. What I want to talk

1098
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: about with Colorado is when did Stephen Montez and Tony

1099
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: Brown become Andrew Walter and Derrick Hagend Tony Brown Like, Um,

1100
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: remember at the beginning of the season, I told you

1101
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: as somebody, they sent me a tweet when I was

1102
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: talking about the that USC at the best wide receivers

1103
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: in the country. Then it was like Alabama, Clemson and

1104
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and somebody said, you're forgetting about colored Colorado. They

1105
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: have these guys, even Tony Tony Brown, and just like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1106
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, that had to be Tony Brown's mom or

1107
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: something like, there's no way you could have expected him

1108
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: in his fifth year to go off like this. I

1109
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: tweeted yesterday like Arizona and Arizona State fans have to

1110
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: be united in their hatred of Tony Brown right now.

1111
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 1: And I got a bunch of tweets and like will

1112
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: never be united about anything. And I was like, all right,

1113
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: but like he's had a full on career against both teams. Um,

1114
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: he looks this, doesn't It doesn't look like a like

1115
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: a couple of good games either. To the naked eye,

1116
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: he looks like an elite football player. And maybe maybe

1117
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: it's just a connection that they have, maybe it's Lavisca

1118
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: not being out there, but my goodness, is this kid

1119
01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: bawling out right now? And maybe it takes five years

1120
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: for somebody, but I mean, he looks like he could

1121
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: get himself after four years of being a guy who

1122
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: gets maybe you know, twenty reps a game, whether at

1123
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: Texas Tech or now in Colorado. This dude looks like

1124
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna get his name. Yes, yes, he looks like

1125
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: an NFL wide wide receiver. And coming into the game,

1126
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: he was already seventh in the conference in yards per game.

1127
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: And you know, he's a little bit higher on that

1128
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: after this week because some of the guys in front

1129
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: of him either didn't didn't play, or didn't play or

1130
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: didn't put up big stats at all. So he's gonna

1131
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: be creeping up to the top of that that list.

1132
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, like, this is pretty impressive, So

1133
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: I want to give him a lot of credit for it.

1134
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: And but with Colorado in general, meil mel Tucker has

1135
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: his team competing, they're playing hard, and he's a defensive coach.

1136
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: So you know at some point in time that that

1137
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: this off season is particularly in recruiting, that it is

1138
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: going to be paramount for them to get the horses

1139
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: and put in a scheme because he's got to learn

1140
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: how to play against Pac twelve competition and he's got

1141
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: to figure out how to win on defense, and and

1142
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a guy who can

1143
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: get it done and make it very, very tough. And

1144
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: then I mean, and Steve se monte has given him

1145
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: absolutely everything he has right now, especially with the way

1146
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: the season ended last year of Montez losing seven in

1147
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: a row, you know, And maybe it'll end up looking

1148
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: this year a lot like it did last year, because

1149
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: I think last year he started out in the first

1150
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 1: five games he had eleven touchdowns, two interceptions. He's at

1151
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: ten and two right now. Yeah. And then and then

1152
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: to finish the season, he threw eight touchdowns seven interceptions,

1153
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: including three at the end of the season at cal

1154
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 1: um And and he looked terrible. So maybe maybe he's

1155
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: sort of aggresses, but it doesn't look like it's gonna

1156
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: happen it Just watching the way that he's playing and

1157
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: watching the way that offense is running. He looks like

1158
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: he's grown up. He's got a good connection with his guys,

1159
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: and they're doing it without Laviska Chanal, and so I

1160
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: think that gives laviska time to heal up, to make

1161
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: sure that when he comes back that he's truly ready

1162
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: to go and not out there with a core injury,

1163
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 1: you know, aggravating anything. Yeah, Yeah, this Colorado team has

1164
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: a you know, has a little bit of a schedule

1165
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: ahead of them as well. They got Oregon next at

1166
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: Oregon next week, which is which looks like an impossible

1167
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: task unless they turned the ball over, unless they turned

1168
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 1: the ball over the same way they did against Cal

1169
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the game. Then they go at

1170
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: the Polouse. So they played Washington State USC and then

1171
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: they get a game against u C. L A that

1172
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: might be seventy two to sixty. Oh, and then they

1173
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: got Stanford, washed Rington and at Utah to finish the season.

1174
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: That's not exactly an easy schedule. Yeah, So so we

1175
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: will see how this team goes and if they continue

1176
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: to to compete, that's what I'm that's what I want

1177
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: to see the most um. And then we'll get to

1178
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: the last two games of the day. So the next

1179
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:25,599
Speaker 1: game in order of time was the Cal went up

1180
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: to Oregon. Cal went up to Oregon lost seventeen and seven.

1181
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: But Cal was up in the game. They were winning

1182
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 1: the football game until the third quarter until so Oregon

1183
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: went up. Oregon kicked the field goal with seven minutes

1184
01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: to go in the third quarter. That was their first

1185
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: points even though they had already missed a field goal earlier.

1186
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: It was seven to three with seven minutes left, and

1187
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 1: it did not appear that that Cal was gonna be

1188
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 1: able to to score. Oregon actually gave up their first

1189
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: touchdown since Week one against against Auburn, which is pretty incredible.

1190
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: They didn't give up. They hadn't given up a touchdown

1191
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: in three games, and they gave up win in the

1192
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: first quarter against Cal. And then they scored again with

1193
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: a minute and thirty eight left to go in the

1194
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: third quarter, and at ten and seven it was pretty

1195
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: much over. They added another touchdown late, but I would

1196
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 1: say the story of this game was Cal's defense. Dude,

1197
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: without their quarterback, without anything, they managed to hold the

1198
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: I mean well, they forced Oregon into three turnovers, two

1199
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,600
Speaker 1: two of them were pretty self inflicted. But it was

1200
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: still pretty amazing to see how hard these kids compete. Yeah,

1201
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I was telling you before we started recording,

1202
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: Kel looked good. Kel looked like a really good football team.

1203
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: They just weren't the best team. I mean it was

1204
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: there was a talent deficiency there. Maybe that will close

1205
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: over time, um, but at the at the that's why

1206
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: you play four quarters. This is something that Colin Calhart

1207
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: always says that, like there's a reason that the game

1208
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: is four quarters, and it's that and it's towards the

1209
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: end when you will see those who have, like are

1210
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: truly talented start to pull away. And that's that's all

1211
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: that really happened. This was a great effort from cal

1212
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 1: I didn't even think that, you know, um, that things

1213
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: really looked that bad from a quarterback perspective. It could

1214
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: certainly be worse based on what our expectations were going

1215
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: into the game. Um, a couple of costly injuries for

1216
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: for Oregon. Absolutely hated to see that towards the end,

1217
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 1: but this is what happens. Gus gust Cumberlander, he got

1218
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: he got hurt. That was really bad and and he

1219
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 1: and it looks like he's probably going to be out

1220
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season probably or at least

1221
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: a ball Yeah, and so, you know, I hate to

1222
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: see stuff like that, but that's what comes with some

1223
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: of these knockdown, drag out you know, or drag out,

1224
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: knockdown or however you say it matchups. Um. I you know,

1225
01:10:54,560 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: I watched a good portion of this game and the

1226
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: stat that they flashed across the screen that really shocked

1227
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: me was this is the first time Oregon has been

1228
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: shut out in the first half of auts of stadiums

1229
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: since Indiana came there in two thousand and four. So,

1230
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: I mean Cal did something really really special and and

1231
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: I really liked that. After the game, Justin Wilcox said

1232
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: that like that we're not we can't hang our heads

1233
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: after this um and I agree with him. I think

1234
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: that this was a good step forward for them, and

1235
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: and and probably a lesson to Mike Leach. Yeah, they're like, hey,

1236
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: you know we we we played hard and we lost.

1237
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: You know, there are no moral victories, but there are

1238
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: things that we can build off of. You know, he

1239
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: didn't come out there and and and rip his players,

1240
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: at least publicly. You know. I'm sure he had some

1241
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,679
Speaker 1: stuff to say, and there was nothing to rip them.

1242
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: There was nothing to rip them about, like like they

1243
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: were just out matched. And and that leads me to this,

1244
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: Cal is a very unique situation. They have Justin Wilcox,

1245
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: who's their head coach. He is obviously a phenomenal head coach.

1246
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: He's hired you know, really a Tim tim to Reuter,

1247
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,639
Speaker 1: really good defensive coordinator. Obviously. I mean, like they're doing

1248
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: a really good job of coaching guys up. His assistant

1249
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: coaches are really good, particularly on defense. But the question

1250
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: I continuously asked myself as this Ralph, is this a team?

1251
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 1: Is this a university that can get five star talent

1252
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: or a bunch of four star talent? Because they've been

1253
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: able to develop guys into NFL prospects that we're two

1254
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: and three star players. So can they get elite player

1255
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 1: elite talent there? And if not, how long before Justin

1256
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 1: Wilcox gets an opportunity at u C l A or

1257
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: it gets an opportunity at Florida State or anywhere else. Yeah,

1258
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate that we're even talking about that,

1259
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: but there are issues at CAL. Obviously, the support um

1260
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: for the football program isn't as high as it is

1261
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: in some other places. Um, and you know they could

1262
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: use definitely uh an infusion of an infusion of capital

1263
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: to help keep up with the Jones is. They've been

1264
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: doing some positive things and I think they're moving in

1265
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: the right direction by just even having Wilcox there. Um,

1266
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm more worried about his staff um cashing in on

1267
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: the good will that they've built up than I am necessarily.

1268
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 1: You know, you you've got a guy like Charlie Regel

1269
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: out there who has helped just plunder Arizona of talent,

1270
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,040
Speaker 1: and you know, this is a guy that wants to

1271
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: be a head coach someday. You know what happens if

1272
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity. You know, he's I think he's

1273
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: from New Mexico and New Mexico State's like the worst

1274
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: team on the planet. You know, do you did does

1275
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: he does he look at that as an opportunity that

1276
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: there's there's a bunch of guys on their defensive backs coach.

1277
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they have so many good coaches out there

1278
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: that are all doing a really good job. How do

1279
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: you get them to to keep re investing in this

1280
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: program and see it through when everybody's also got their

1281
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,679
Speaker 1: individual goals and you want them to accomplish those as well. Uh,

1282
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an interesting balancing act. But I think

1283
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: that if they can find a way to get some

1284
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: athletes um at the receiver position and at the running

1285
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: back position, and maybe even just harken back to the

1286
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: to the days of having six straight running backs at

1287
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: Cal that we're all picked in the NFL draft. You know,

1288
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: whether it was you know, J. J. Arrington or Marshaw.

1289
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, they're not all going to be super special,

1290
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: but exactly exactly, um so uh, I think that they

1291
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: just they need a guy, right, They need a guy

1292
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football who is going

1293
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: to be the balance to like an Evan Weaver type

1294
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football, somebody that you

1295
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: can really rely on because right now they're just piecing

1296
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: together these drives. Didn't really have that super threat or

1297
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: playmaker that that receiver that they have, the Juco kid,

1298
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 1: the six five kid. He could be really good, but

1299
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: you don't have anybody to really consistently get him the ball. Man.

1300
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:08,520
Speaker 1: Um so it Oh they got Garber, stop, Hey Garbers,

1301
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback round whoa oh wet wet, wet

1302
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: blanket man. He'll be back maybe. Um. But on on

1303
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 1: the Oregan side, though, I was I was very encouraged.

1304
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: I have been asking for Oregon to run the football better,

1305
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: and finally they ran the football better. You saw gashes

1306
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: you saw eighteen, nineteen, sixteen twenty, like this was what

1307
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: you want to see out of an Oregon football team.

1308
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean, even C. J. Verdell, who I've been critical

1309
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: of had some good runs. His long was only eleven,

1310
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 1: but he looked like he had some vision and cal

1311
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: is no slouch on defense, so I want to give

1312
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: them him credit for that. The other thing is they

1313
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 1: didn't have necessarily conservative play. And the other thing was

1314
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman looks really, really good. This was his first

1315
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: game playing. They got Britain schooler back, who's more of

1316
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: a possession receiver, but he looked a little faster this

1317
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: this week. They got Jawan Johnson, the Penn State transfer

1318
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: back on the field, and this wide receiving corps is

1319
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: at full strength for the first time. I think that

1320
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: they are going to really really have a chance if

1321
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: they stay focused. This is a team that will be

1322
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 1: in the top ten in in a couple of weeks.

1323
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 1: Do you think, And maybe this sounds crazy, but I

1324
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: kind of felt this way watching the game, that the

1325
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: infusion of talent at wide receiver sort of threw off

1326
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: the balance of some stuff. Like man, maybe people were

1327
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: playing positions that they hadn't played um up until that point.

1328
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,919
Speaker 1: It just felt like the rhythm was just off, especially

1329
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: with like Brilian. He'd make a couple of catching is

1330
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 1: and then and then he just wouldn't be in the

1331
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 1: right place or Herb wouldn't be able to find him.

1332
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnson just looked absolutely pedestrian. Um and you hate

1333
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: to see that up and down with him, but that's

1334
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 1: just what was going on. Um. Well that's who he's

1335
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: kind of been though too. Yes, Yeah, but that they're

1336
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: just lack of consistent I think, you know, I think

1337
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 1: long term it's a good thing, but maybe you have

1338
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: some guys playing out a position or switching. Um. That

1339
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 1: just affected the chemistry for a one game only type thing,

1340
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 1: because I didn't you know, I just thought that they

1341
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: looked like they were all It looked like the first

1342
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: game of the year. Yeah, as far as the passing game,

1343
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: I would tell you I would that was a great

1344
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: summation of it. And the last game in the back

1345
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: twelve this week was a shocker for most but not

1346
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: so much for me. Stanford, who had looked terrible at

1347
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 1: times this year, I mean absolutely putrid when they lost

1348
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: to UCF, they were horrible in the first half, They

1349
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: were better in the second have they put up a

1350
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: fight against Oregon, so that six lost against Oregon actually

1351
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: looked a little bit better. But then they came up

1352
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: and gave twenty eight points, gave up twenty eight points

1353
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: to Oregon State at Oregon State, and then they come

1354
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 1: back and beat Washington. And I this when when I

1355
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 1: was looking at this game, rah, I was like, David

1356
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: Shawn is a good coach. Like he's a good coach.

1357
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: He's going to figure something out. Even though I've said

1358
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: he's a late adopter offensively, he figured something out, like

1359
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: he just like he just exploited the things that Washington

1360
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: does not do well. The truth is Washington has some receivers.

1361
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,439
Speaker 1: They do not like to be touched and do not

1362
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: like to be hit. They dropped balls in the Cow game.

1363
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 1: They dropped balls in the Stanford game. You put a

1364
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: little it on them, and they don't like catching those

1365
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: intermediate passes across the middle where you can get touched

1366
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: up even a little bit with the new rules, And

1367
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: that's what happened. They dropped a bunch of that and

1368
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,959
Speaker 1: they just got whipped up front by Stanford. And Stanford

1369
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: lost another defensive linements that are out with without Walker Little,

1370
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: they lost another defensive lineman. I don't know what to

1371
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 1: make of this Washington team right now, but I will

1372
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: say Ralph, I'm not afraid to to us say I

1373
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 1: ha ha, I was right, and I told you about

1374
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 1: Jacob Ees. Yeah, I mean, I see where you're going.

1375
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm willing to meet you there. Yet,

1376
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: some of this felt like Estan's fault, and some of

1377
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: it felt like I don't know, Georgia. How many movies

1378
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: have you seen where someone like walks into quicksand and

1379
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: they start to sink, and then like one person there

1380
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you're not supposed to move, stop moving,

1381
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: And then you know, I always I always thought growing up, like, man,

1382
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: if I ever see quicksand, I'm totally gonna know what

1383
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: to do. But it turns out quicksand is like way

1384
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: more prevalent in kids shows. Uh. And it was just

1385
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: in the door of the Explorer movie Don't go see that.

1386
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: My kids talk me into that that was not a

1387
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: positive experience. But then they had Quicksand in that movie too,

1388
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, you just don't move and you'll

1389
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: be fine. But yet there's always somebody who isn't aware

1390
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: and they kick and scream and they get swallowed up right,

1391
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm watching this game and I just every single thing

1392
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: Washington did. It was like stop moving, stop like you're

1393
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: doing the exact thing. Like Stanford is just quicksand it's

1394
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: it's it's obsolete. If you it's not a problem if

1395
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: you just don't play into what they want you to

1396
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: play into. And I felt like Washington just slowly killed

1397
01:20:55,640 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: themselves all night long. They didn't run the ball. They

1398
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: didn't even put their tight ends on the field. Kay

1399
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: Doten and Hunter Bryant had three combined catches. Those guys

1400
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: are supposed to be lethal weapons for Washington. You mean,

1401
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 1: you might want to talk about the receivers being soft,

1402
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: but like these tight ends they can play. Hunter Bryant

1403
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: wasn't even on the field for like a huge part

1404
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: of the second half. Achmed touched the ball like what

1405
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: seven times? Yeah, and he's your star. They they ran

1406
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: the ball nineteen times in what was effectively a one

1407
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,520
Speaker 1: score game for a lot of the game. Well, they

1408
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: really have a lot of plays though, either because Stanford

1409
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,840
Speaker 1: had the ball, uh um, Washington only had the ball

1410
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: out of a sixty minute game. They had the ball

1411
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,799
Speaker 1: for twenty minutes. Stanford had the ball for forty minutes.

1412
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 1: They just got and they got twenty four first downs

1413
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 1: to Washington's fifteen. Stafford rushed, but what do you what

1414
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: are you doing throwing the ball too to one? I

1415
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: just don't I don't get it. Like what they go

1416
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: out there and throw the ball on first down, that's

1417
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: what they want you to do. Yeah, but you got

1418
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: I just see knew toy from from Georgia that everybody

1419
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: screamed about was gonna be the pactual player of the year,

1420
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 1: the best player in the conference. He's gonna be revolutionary.

1421
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: And he came out here and he's had this this

1422
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: relatively pedestrian game six team for thirty six, which is

1423
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: below one um. Yeah, against one touchdown, one interception, I think, yeah,

1424
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: And it was very pedestrian. He had a pedestrian game

1425
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: against cal and even last week I think as well.

1426
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: Like he he hasn't been special at all. I mean,

1427
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,839
Speaker 1: he was special against the bad teams. But I'm yeah,

1428
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but but but Jacob Eason is an upgraded

1429
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: a slight He's he is if Jake Browning was was

1430
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 1: was iOS twelve point eight, Jacob easy it is thirteen

1431
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 1: point one. This is this is not a huge difference.

1432
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: It is just an update. But that should be good enough.

1433
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,759
Speaker 1: That should be good enough, especially if we've learned anything

1434
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: in football over the last ten years by watching Aaron Rodgers,

1435
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: one of the most talented dudes to ever do it,

1436
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady, an incredibly good quarterback. If we've learned

1437
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: anything from just the two careers of those side by side,

1438
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: it's that your quarterback can't do it alone and you

1439
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to depend on him to make big plays

1440
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: if you want to win. So it doesn't matter how

1441
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: talented Jacob Eason is. If you go out there with

1442
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: two hands tied behind your back, you're not gonna be

1443
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: able to throw punches or defend yourself. And they didn't

1444
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: use their tight ends, and they didn't really run the ball,

1445
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: and they got embarrassed by a Stanford team who lost

1446
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,679
Speaker 1: Henry Hattis too. I hope to god he's okay, because

1447
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: that looked disgusting. You you mentioned they don't have Walker Little.

1448
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: There's three freshmen starting on that Stanford offensive line. They

1449
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: were on their third string quarterback, and I know how

1450
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: you feel about Cameron Scarlett, and they still went out

1451
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: there and punched Washington in the mouth and made them

1452
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 1: look stupid. These types of games should not be happening

1453
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen, the Year of Our Lord. We

1454
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: talked about this. Stanford is outdated. They are going the

1455
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: way of the Buffalo. As long as you don't fall

1456
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: into these little situations in which Stanford ultimately has the

1457
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: advantage because you decided to play their game, then you should.

1458
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 1: I felt like this was the second worst rush offens

1459
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: in the entire pack twelve going against one of the

1460
01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: best rushing defenses in the back well and they just

1461
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: ran them over. And let me give you guys some

1462
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: insight if you do not know. So the problem with

1463
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 1: Washington is this. The problem with Washington is this. They're

1464
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, who is a good defensive coordinator. He's

1465
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: a smart guy. Jimmy Lake, he liked he is there

1466
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: the defensive backs coach. And the majority of time if

1467
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: is you saw Stanford, they rarely got into a lot

1468
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: of tight end sets. They mainly stayed in one back

1469
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: out of the shotgun or or even if they were

1470
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: under under center. They didn't get in a lot of

1471
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: those heavy sets. They that that they normally get it.

1472
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 1: So what they did is Washington likes to play with

1473
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: five defensive backs on the field. Sometimes they even play

1474
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 1: with six and so the majority of the time they're

1475
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: in a four to five, so four down lineman, two linebackers,

1476
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: and three I'm sorry in five defensive backs. And Stanford

1477
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: was playing smart because one of the other guys that's

1478
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 1: on the field for them is Cody Parkinson, who's a

1479
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: huge tight end six seven. They they played big guys

1480
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: versus little guy football, and the big guys won because

1481
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 1: big guys knocked little guys out of the way, and

1482
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,480
Speaker 1: they didn't make an adjustment to put a third linebacker

1483
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 1: on the field and take another defensive back off the field.

1484
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: So when whenever they put three linebackers out there, Stanford

1485
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 1: through the ball. Whenever they put two out there, they

1486
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: ran the ball. It was just a just a I mean,

1487
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: they got out coached. Uh, David Shaw figured out what

1488
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: was going on at Washington and out coached definitely, definitely

1489
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: a coaching win and a coaching loss. Um and Stanford

1490
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: did it with spare parts. And I'm not super confident

1491
01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 1: and how things are gonna go for Stanford the rest

1492
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: of the year based on some of the things that

1493
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: are happening, but at least we figured a few things out.

1494
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: Davis Mills was the number one he might not when

1495
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: it's all said and done, He might be far from

1496
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: having been the number one rated pocket passer in in

1497
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 1: his entire class, but he was rated that way for

1498
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: a reason. He is more than capable. We we learned that. Um.

1499
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: We also we also learned that if you give them

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01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity, they will still find a way to win.

1501
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: And so Stanford is still dangerous in this conference. Washington. Uh,

1502
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean this is two losses now that are probably

1503
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,880
Speaker 1: that maybe didn't need to be and yeah, yeah, and

1504
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Washington fans where I because I I go into everybody's

1505
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: uh uh message boards and all of that, and the

1506
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: Stanford I'm sorry to Washington fans. We're saying we're fine.

1507
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: Same thing happened last year. We lost a cow gold

1508
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Is on the Rose Bowl. Don't worry, don't panic, and

1509
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: you lose the Stanford now and you're like, uh, we're

1510
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: are in doing These are the PAC twelve two pack

1511
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: twelve North losses? Are you kidding me? Yeah? Yeah, it

1512
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: is time to be Yeah. The chances of going to

1513
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,839
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl are slim now because because you also

1514
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,920
Speaker 1: have to because you have to go beat Oregon, which

1515
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: has at least well they have a better defense than Stanford,

1516
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: and their their defense production wise is better than Cows,

1517
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 1: even even though I do think that Cows overall defense

1518
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit better. But Oregon is only getting

1519
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:40,080
Speaker 1: In their last four games, they have only they've only

1520
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 1: given up one touchdown and they haven't even allowed a

1521
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:48,839
Speaker 1: team to score more than seven points. More than seven points.

1522
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like George, even if Washington goes five and one,

1523
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: which they are more than capable of going five and

1524
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: one the rest of the way, it will still end

1525
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 1: up being three losses in your division, not just in

1526
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the conference, in your division, and that's not a place

1527
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: that they want to be. Ever, that's a tough year.

1528
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: They go nine and three and consider it a tough year. Yeah,

1529
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,919
Speaker 1: it's especially when those losses aren't like nine conference losses

1530
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: against like a huge team number that you just lost

1531
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: your conference games. That means you are a middle of

1532
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: the road team in the conference this year, not not overall,

1533
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:31,839
Speaker 1: but this year when Washington fans they were talking potential

1534
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: national championship and it's just not happening. So the question

1535
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: is what does the future at quarterback look like for Washington?

1536
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: But anyways of the you what do you think that

1537
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,799
Speaker 1: because I got a couple of tweets from people yesterday

1538
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: saying that these next six games go well and Jacob

1539
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Eesan bounces. I mean, in theory he could, but but

1540
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,920
Speaker 1: I doubt that he. I think that if he leaves,

1541
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: based upon what he's shown so so far, he will

1542
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: be drafted somewhere around the time that Jason Stidham was

1543
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 1: out of out of arbor, when everybody thought that Jason

1544
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: Stidham was gonna be a first round draft that he

1545
01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: and NIC's probably fifth or six round pig. That's kind

1546
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: of where Jacob e And you know what sucks about

1547
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: that is Stidham is probably gonna end up the best

1548
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks from that draft class because he ended up in

1549
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 1: the perfect situation at the perfect twilight of Tom Brady's career.

1550
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: So I don't want to say too many bad things

1551
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: about him because I'm sick of the Patriots winning and

1552
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: I don't want another fifteen years to you, But can

1553
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 1: I just want to say one thing before we want

1554
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: to watch in Stanford game, and that I absolutely love

1555
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm not kidding you, I'm not exaggerating that

1556
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: I was falling asleep and part of the reason with

1557
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: the commentators, it was just over for them. This was

1558
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: like what a three point game at halftime and the

1559
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 1: entire second half, it was like the crew that was

1560
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 1: working the game was like, yeah, this is this is it.

1561
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 1: Like I remember when Washington punted midway through the fourth quarter,

1562
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 1: they were like, well, they probably get the ball back.

1563
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: They were it was Bennetti, Rod Rod Gilmore and Quinn

1564
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:20,960
Speaker 1: uh K and they were all saying, oh, well, you know,

1565
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: if if if watching, I understand why they're but no

1566
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: fourth and nineteen, but you know they may not get

1567
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 1: the ball. But that's fat fat Yeah. It was it's

1568
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: like watching somebody like you watch somebody put somebody else

1569
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: in a full nelson, and it's like that maybe that

1570
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,640
Speaker 1: first that that person's first time ever being in a

1571
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 1: full nelson. So they're struggling and struggling and you're just

1572
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,679
Speaker 1: sitting there town I'm like, hey, just give up because

1573
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: you're done, Like it's over. Just just relax because the

1574
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,640
Speaker 1: more you struggle, the worst it's gonna be. That's what

1575
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: it felt like watching the end of this game. But

1576
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: the crew was just like, well, thank you guys for

1577
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 1: joining us for the Pack twelve Apostibles We appreciate time,

1578
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: appreciate your energy. Thank you so much. Um you guys,

1579
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: make sure you share the feed, download the feed, tell

1580
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:10,719
Speaker 1: a friend about the Unafraid show, and tell a friend

1581
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 1: about the Pac Tweble Apostles podcast. When we'll try to

1582
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: get more sleep before the next podcast, peace out, catch

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01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: you guys later