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Speaker 1: So there seems to be some confusion. So what we did,
Speaker 1: what we've done is listed them below. Oh Jo, let's
Speaker 1: get right into it. There must be if they're ask
Speaker 1: do you know if there's a power outage in OKC
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma? Because ain't nobody on my timeline when they
Speaker 1: want funded my timeline? Oh shahda oh oh, we worked
Speaker 1: over one seedy. I ain't got nothing, so I'm assuming
Speaker 1: this is a power outage somewhere. But anyway, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: continue with our normally schedule programming. The MAVs beat the
Speaker 1: Thunder in game to Luka Doncons twenty nine points, ten rebound,
Speaker 1: seven assists. If I'm not mistaken, I think PJ. Washington
Speaker 1: also had a career high with twenty nine points. Uh.
Speaker 1: And in the third quarter, Tim Hardaway Junior came up
Speaker 1: the bench hicked several threes to kind of break the
Speaker 1: game open, and they cruised from there. Luca was uh
Speaker 1: what was Luca? Twenty nine points, ten rebound, seven assists,
Speaker 1: three steals, fifty two percent from the floor or five
Speaker 1: of eight from three. Ten Tim Hardaway Junior, he came
Speaker 1: in off the bench seventeen points, sixty percent field goal
Speaker 1: in just nineteen minutes, and that was the difference in
Speaker 1: the ball game. PJ. Washington had twenty nine points, eleven rebounds,
Speaker 1: seven May threes, first player with ten plus rebounds seven
Speaker 1: May three to the playoff games since step did it
Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. And that was what they really
Speaker 1: need because Shay Gill just had an unbelievable game, also
Speaker 1: almost had a triple double, but the map. But the
Speaker 1: MAVs go on the roll and take home court away
Speaker 1: from the OKC Thunder winning game two. Yeah, in a
Speaker 1: very hard fall ball game. Ojo, you watched this ball game?
Speaker 1: What did you like? I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, first off, the head of the snake, the head
Speaker 3: of the Snake hadn't been playing well.
Speaker 4: Kyrie had been playing well. The can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Okay, the head of the Snake as I like to
Speaker 3: call it, you know, your two headed monster and Kyrie
Speaker 3: and Luca. Luca hasn't been shooting well. He didn't shoot
Speaker 3: well last game. But he came in this game and
Speaker 3: he started off hot. You started off fire. He caught
Speaker 3: himself into a rhythm. And obviously Kyrie did what Kyrie did.
Speaker 3: But the emergence of PJ Washington, PJ Washington having the
Speaker 3: game that he had, I think made the difference. And
Speaker 3: the bench points that that Tim Hardaway Junior was able
Speaker 3: to provide is why I think they ran away with
Speaker 3: this game. And I think it was what was it?
Speaker 3: Maybe it was about the third quarter where they kind
Speaker 3: of pulled away from it. Yeah, they kind of pulled
Speaker 3: away with it with everything but that god damn shake
Speaker 3: Gills Alexander man oh Man another thirty point night.
Speaker 1: Uh yep, thirteen or twenty four, one for three from
Speaker 1: the three point line.
Speaker 4: Thirty point night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but it wasn't because here you got you
Speaker 1: got PJ. Washington. That was eleven of eighteen from the
Speaker 1: floor in forty minutes before he plied out seven of
Speaker 1: eleven from the three point line. Eleven rebounds you had, Luca,
Speaker 1: he gave you eleven of twenty two from the floor,
Speaker 1: five of eight from the three point line, ten rebounds.
Speaker 1: They went eighteen to thirty seven from the three point line.
Speaker 1: They out shot they out shot Okac from the three
Speaker 1: point line, which was ten of eighteen. So in other words,
Speaker 1: they're plus twenty four from the three point line. And
Speaker 1: that really was the difference in the ballgame. The rebounding
Speaker 1: was close, but the difference was in the ball game
Speaker 1: was the three point shot. And that's normally how it goes.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Celtics and the Cavaliers,
Speaker 1: and you see with the Celtics struggle from the three
Speaker 1: point line. They struggle. But this was a game that
Speaker 1: Luca if you watch early, and if you noticed early
Speaker 1: he came out looking for his shot. He's like I'm
Speaker 1: looking for and he's the type of player and most
Speaker 1: of these great players are. If they see a couple
Speaker 1: of those early shots go in, you got hell on
Speaker 1: your hands because you gotta hug up on him because
Speaker 1: you're worried about him shooting the three. And then he
Speaker 1: has the ability to put the ball on the floor
Speaker 1: and go buy you and finish at the rim not
Speaker 1: dunking the ball. But he has tremendous English. Plus he
Speaker 1: got the mid range, he got the float game. So
Speaker 1: he has a bag. He has a rail shot that
Speaker 1: he can pull out of his bag and make you pay.
Speaker 1: But he got it going early. PJ got it going early.
Speaker 1: But it was Tim Hardaway Jr. In that third quarter
Speaker 1: that really gave them the separation that they needed. And
Speaker 1: every time they would make a run, OKC would make
Speaker 1: a run, Oho, Tim Hardaway Junior would hit a big
Speaker 1: three point shot. They almost had to lose ball. He
Speaker 1: gets it, lou Dorrit tries to get it from him.
Speaker 1: He fakes it like he's gonna pass it the Luca
Speaker 1: and as the shot clock's running down, he cans at
Speaker 1: three in the corner, and from that point on they
Speaker 1: really I think the closest they got it after that
Speaker 1: point with maybe eight points. They seem to have really
Speaker 1: never struggled from that point on. But give the Maverage credit.
Speaker 1: They showed you something that is a very tough building
Speaker 1: to play in. That's a young team. They feed off
Speaker 1: the crowd, and every time the Thunder made a run
Speaker 1: and got the crowd back in it, Luca, PJ. Washington,
Speaker 1: somebody made a big shot, somebody made a big play
Speaker 1: to suppress the run and stiman And so now they
Speaker 1: go back one one. That's all you can hope for.
Speaker 1: You go on the road. Yeah you'd like to win too.
Speaker 1: But if we can get one and still home court,
Speaker 1: now we get to go home for two. Let's see
Speaker 1: if we can go back to OKC up three to one.
Speaker 1: But give OKC Thunder crazy. Now, they're not gonna go away.
Speaker 1: Like they're not gonna go away. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: they had the number one seed. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: shake Yill just all year long within the MVP discussion,
Speaker 1: and you know, they got Jamal Wig, they got the
Speaker 1: William boys that can make shots. But give the Mass
Speaker 1: credit for going on the road. But I'm not here
Speaker 1: to count the OKC out because I don't believe. I
Speaker 1: don't believe they're gonna go down without a fight.
Speaker 3: I still believe this Still I think OKAC has to
Speaker 3: do is they have to find the consistency in their players.
Speaker 3: You already know what you're gonna get from shot. If
Speaker 3: we can get it, we can get Williams homework. I mean, shaye,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We can get Williams. We get Williams giddy
Speaker 3: and home on the same page of consistency night in
Speaker 3: and night out when they're playing. I think it make
Speaker 3: it can make this series much tougher as opposed to
Speaker 3: because you already know Luca, Luke and Kyrie are going
Speaker 3: to do what they do. So you have to match
Speaker 3: withs with their two headed monster or three, depend depending
Speaker 3: on what Tim Hardaway Junior is coming off the bench,
Speaker 3: or depending on how PJ. Washington is playing. You need
Speaker 3: your three to play just as well as theirs. Is
Speaker 3: to make the series very interesting and not just Shade
Speaker 3: Guilt just leading the way all the way. Somebody got
Speaker 3: somebody has to take that pressure off him.
Speaker 1: Well when you get because here's the thing, Kyrie didn't
Speaker 1: play particular well last night tonight, and he didn't really
Speaker 1: need to because PJ picked up the slack. So the
Speaker 1: points that PJ gave you is what Kyrie would normally
Speaker 1: give you. But so when you get PJ given your
Speaker 1: twenty nine, you got thirteen from Daniel Gaffer, Kyrie only
Speaker 1: gave you nine points. But then you get Tim Hardiway
Speaker 1: Junior coming off the bench giving your seventeen, and you
Speaker 1: get Green coming off the bench going three or five
Speaker 1: and giving you eleven, And so that was the difference.
Speaker 1: So what what happens is if one of your key
Speaker 1: guys goes doesn't perform like he normally does. If we
Speaker 1: normally what Kyrie normally gives you, that means somebody else
Speaker 1: has to pick up that scoring slack, or someone someone's
Speaker 1: or others have to pick up the scoring slack. And
Speaker 1: that's what you need on the road. If you can
Speaker 1: get your auxiliary player, your role player to step up
Speaker 1: and contribute, it's gonna be you're more apped, especially if
Speaker 1: you get Luca one of the other guys playing well.
Speaker 1: Luca was very efficient tonight. He shot over fifty percent
Speaker 1: from the floor. He was over fifty percent from the
Speaker 1: three point line. He gave you ten rebounds, gave you
Speaker 1: seven assents. We knew that he wasn't gonna play in
Speaker 1: game two as poorly as he played in Game one,
Speaker 1: and so when you get that kind of production, you
Speaker 1: got that kind of production from him. You got that
Speaker 1: kind of production from PJ. Daniel Gaffert gave you thirteen.
Speaker 1: He only took six shots, and you got hard Away
Speaker 1: and John think Josh Green coming off the bench, get
Speaker 1: combining to give you twenty eight. You can and they
Speaker 1: shot what they shoot ten, ten or fourteen from the floor,
Speaker 1: and they shot five of nine from the three point line.
Speaker 1: You get that kind of production.
Speaker 4: On the role.
Speaker 1: Players, you're gonna be dooring real good. In the starner
Speaker 1: of the night, the calv did a better job of
Speaker 1: making life hearted. Jaylen Brown he was seven of seventeen.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum was eight of seventeen in Game two, but
Speaker 1: it was Spider Mitchell. He gave you twenty nine points,
Speaker 1: seven rebounds, eight assists. He was five or seven from
Speaker 1: the three point line. He was plus thirty six and
Speaker 1: plus minus. Only Jaylen Brunton has scored more points in
Speaker 1: the postseason. Donald mitched over Donovan Mitchell. Over his last
Speaker 1: four games, he's giving you thirty eight points, six and
Speaker 1: a half rebounds, five and a half assists on fifty
Speaker 1: one forty shooting. Evan Mobley gave you twenty one points,
Speaker 1: ten rebounds, five assists. He was plus thirty five. He's
Speaker 1: the youngest Calve player. He's the youngest calv flayer, says
Speaker 1: Lebron James, with a twenty ten to five in a
Speaker 1: playoff game. Karris Leburt chipped in on the road. He
Speaker 1: gave you twenty one big points, rebounds, and the and
Speaker 1: they outscored the Celtics. He outscored well, they outscored the
Speaker 1: Celtics starters in the fourth quarter. You see the Celtics
Speaker 1: or three point shooting team. Now, even though they didn't
Speaker 1: get up the normal amount of threes that they got up.
Speaker 1: They normally get up when the threes are falling, they'll
Speaker 1: shoot you at the gym. But when they're not falling,
Speaker 1: they get blown out. They get this just like what
Speaker 1: you what the Heat what he did to them in
Speaker 1: Game two because the Heat threes were falling, the Celtics
Speaker 1: threes weren't falling. The same thing happened tonight do I
Speaker 1: think the cab is gonna beat the Celtics in a
Speaker 1: seven game series. I don't. I don't, I don't. But
Speaker 1: they did make it a lot more interesting because a
Speaker 1: lot of people thought it was going.
Speaker 3: To be listen, this is what you this is what
Speaker 3: you have to do again. The supporting cast with Donovan
Speaker 3: Mitchell strussed LeVert Garland. If they can just keep the
Speaker 3: games close, because you never know this type of night
Speaker 3: that the Celtics are gonna have. You know, we know
Speaker 3: they can shoot you out of gym. We know what
Speaker 3: Jayden Brown could do, we know what Jason Tatum can do.
Speaker 3: If you can just continue to match their point output
Speaker 3: as consistently as possible and be efficient from the field
Speaker 3: and challenging them on every shot and not allow them
Speaker 3: to get any easy shots off, I think they have
Speaker 3: a chance, maybe not to win the series, but at
Speaker 3: least to make it close enough to where people can say, oh,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be for to one, it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: for one series, or whatever it may be. Nobody is
Speaker 3: given if if you're a gambler man, if you're a
Speaker 3: bet man, nobody's giving the Cavs a chance to win
Speaker 3: this series. Not not even you, absolutely no, I'm not no.
Speaker 3: Because the thing is the thing that I love about
Speaker 3: a seven game.
Speaker 1: Series, because in football sometimes the best team doesn't always win,
Speaker 1: the team that on a given Sunday or Saturday or
Speaker 1: Monday or Thursday, they'll win. But I got seven games
Speaker 1: the normal and normally in a seven games reads, if
Speaker 1: the bad calls or pour shooting happens earlier enough, you
Speaker 1: can overcome back. Now in the situation, if it's a
Speaker 1: game seven and you shoot poorly and it's a three
Speaker 1: to three ball game, you're not gonna overcome that. But
Speaker 1: if it's early in the series, normally a seven game series,
Speaker 1: the better team will overcome back. But you look at
Speaker 1: the production that they got on the road. They had
Speaker 1: six guys to score in double figure. All five of
Speaker 1: their starters for the Cavs had double figures. And you
Speaker 1: get Keris Leburt coming off the bench giving you twenty
Speaker 1: one points. And so when you get that kind of
Speaker 1: production from Donovan Mitchell, he gave you twenty nine on
Speaker 1: plus fifty percent shooting. Darius Garland didn't take a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of shots. He was five of eight, four or
Speaker 1: five from the three he gave you fourteen points. A
Speaker 1: cool roup, he gave you twelve points. Evan Molett we
Speaker 1: mentioned twenty one and ten Max Struce, he gave you twelve.
Speaker 1: On fifty percent shooting, they shot almost fifty five percent
Speaker 1: from the floor and forty six percent from the three
Speaker 1: point line, Boston got to do a better job of defending.
Speaker 1: I mean, you let a team in the playoffs shoot
Speaker 1: fifty five percent from the four forty six percent from
Speaker 1: the three, they're probably gonna lose the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: listen Boston with Boston before you go, o Joe, Boston
Speaker 1: was forty one percent from the floor. There was thirty
Speaker 1: three or eighty from the floor, and it was eight
Speaker 1: of thirty five from the three. They know they always
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you hear Missoula Joe Mozula talk.
Speaker 1: He's trying to get up fifty threes. Well they're trying
Speaker 1: to make the get up fifty three. You're trying. You're
Speaker 1: trying to make somewhere between eighteen to twenty two of those. Well,
Speaker 1: when you only make eight three, the Celtics are not
Speaker 1: beating anybody. If they only make eight threes, that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's not because their offense, their team is
Speaker 1: predicated on taking and making a bunch of threes.
Speaker 3: It's really that simple, damn. Jason Tatum was seven seven fifteen.
Speaker 3: Danil Brown was seven for seventeen. I mean, hell, let's
Speaker 3: start with them two right now for one.
Speaker 1: M h yeah, well you two, but your big big
Speaker 1: guns gotta go off. Jason Tatum gave it twenty five
Speaker 1: he was seven of Jaylen Brown only gave you nineteen.
Speaker 1: He was seven or seventeen. Derrick White was three of eleven.
Speaker 1: He had ten. Holiday was two or seven. He gave
Speaker 1: you four. Al Horford was four or nine. He gave
Speaker 1: you eleven. Peton Princechett was the guy. He played really
Speaker 1: really well. He gave you thirteen points on six of ten.
Speaker 1: But outside of that, they really didn't have. They didn't
Speaker 1: really get a whole lot of production from the bench,
Speaker 1: but they normally don't. They normally don't get a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Howser normally comes in and plays pretty well. Occasionals they'll
Speaker 1: come in and coordinated, come in and give him some
Speaker 1: valuable minutes. But normally, Pitch Princhett is the guy off
Speaker 1: the bench that plays well for them. But right now.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is struggling. There's no well putting it. You
Speaker 1: look at the previous series, he did not play well,
Speaker 1: and the Calves to get a road win, considering Bag
Speaker 1: didn't even come close to getting a road win, well,
Speaker 1: I think game six when he had fifty, but I
Speaker 1: think it's still what they ended up losing. But for
Speaker 1: the Calve to come into the Garden and beat them
Speaker 1: by twenty four, that's the Calves got to take something
Speaker 1: that we're like, Okay, we didn't win not one road
Speaker 1: game last series against Orlando, and here we are a
Speaker 1: team that won sixty four games. We still won on
Speaker 1: the road, So they got to feel good with that.
Speaker 1: I like it. Now it's time for our first segment
Speaker 1: of the night, O Joe and it's a news cap.
Speaker 1: Glenn Big Baby Davis was sent US to forty months
Speaker 1: in the prison on Thursday for defrauding the league's health
Speaker 1: care plan. The thirty eight year old Davis was also
Speaker 1: sent US to three years supervised release. In November. Davis
Speaker 1: was found guilty of health care fraud, wild fraud, conspiracy
Speaker 1: to make false davements, and conspiracy to commit health care
Speaker 1: and wild fraud and phase twenty years in prison. Federal
Speaker 1: authorities said Davis and others the fraud of the insurance
Speaker 1: plan of the NBA players and family members of more
Speaker 1: than five million dollars in a scheme that lasted four years.
Speaker 1: The players would make false claims to dental service various medicals,
Speaker 1: but those services were never provided. David submitted they told
Speaker 1: him one hundred and thirty two thousand worth of claims,
Speaker 1: including he got twenty seven two hundred dollars worth of
Speaker 1: dental work at the Beverly Hills Dennis office at October
Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen. Authority said he was actually living in
Speaker 1: Vegas at the time. Flew the past that same day,
Speaker 1: using the geolocation data for its cell phone to prove it.
Speaker 1: But David doesn't seem too concerned because about his punishment.
Speaker 1: Take a listen to what he had to say this afternoon.
Speaker 5: Damn, I got a cold imagination, though you know I
Speaker 5: do that actors.
Speaker 1: Shit, I got a cold imagination. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: choke the chicken in the bathroom.
Speaker 5: That's I'm gonna be swollen though, I swear to God,
Speaker 5: I'm about to get in so much shame. Oh God,
Speaker 5: that's the only way you can stop me from beating
Speaker 5: hamburgers to put me in Yeah.
Speaker 6: I say, I'm gona stopp I'm gona stop. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: stop eating hamburgers. I'm gonna put you in jail. You
Speaker 6: don't won't stop eating hamburgers and cheetos, You're going to jail.
Speaker 1: So now come, I'm gonna come to rock Oh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: he may listen, he may. I mean, I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess the best thing I would just get ready to
Speaker 1: say the same thing. Man.
Speaker 3: He's making light of the situation, taking it, taking it
Speaker 3: on the chin the best way he can, obviously.
Speaker 4: But it all sends back to what I've always seen.
Speaker 1: You better hope you don't take it on the other end.
Speaker 3: Listen, hey, But it's one thing what I always say
Speaker 3: when I always speak on taking care of your chicken,
Speaker 3: like Marshawn Lynch says, taking care of your money when
Speaker 3: you're in when you're in the league, taking care of.
Speaker 4: Yourself, man, so you don't end up in situations like this.
Speaker 3: We have to do anything having to do with fraud
Speaker 3: for that matter, and having to to find loop Pohle's
Speaker 3: in the system to use it to do some of
Speaker 3: the things that you enjoy in life, getting your teeth done,
Speaker 3: flying to Paris, I mean.
Speaker 1: Get Ojo while you waiting you out of Ojo. You know,
Speaker 1: the team paid because when I first got to the league, Oho,
Speaker 1: the team, the medical wasn't like it is currently for
Speaker 1: the NFL players. I went and saw my black ass
Speaker 1: in the chair every Tuesday because back then, I think
Speaker 1: the medical I think the NFL only played like ten
Speaker 1: percent of the gentle because they deemed what I was
Speaker 1: getting was cosmetic. They're not doing for cosmetic. Now. If
Speaker 1: I had to have a team that I had a
Speaker 1: root Canal or something like that. But since I was
Speaker 1: getting Veneers, they deemed that cosmetic and they really didn't
Speaker 1: want to play for anything. So I ended up having
Speaker 1: to get the root, had to get root canals and
Speaker 1: then Vaniera. But why would you my part? The thing
Speaker 1: that I hate most is that when you defraud the system,
Speaker 1: and I get it, you shouldn't do it. But what
Speaker 1: about the other players, because now you make it hard
Speaker 1: because oh Jo, we heard cases of how players that
Speaker 1: really needed and benefits when NFL players tried to do
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, and when players actually made it,
Speaker 1: they was turned away indeed, Jack answers that was one
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, that didn't need it, that they wasted
Speaker 1: their money because they had five chicks, they had six homes,
Speaker 1: they had twelve cars, that blew all their money, and
Speaker 1: now you mess it up for somebody else. I don't
Speaker 1: feel sorry for them. I do not.
Speaker 3: This is a great example. This is a great example.
Speaker 3: And people laugh at me when I've been preaching. I've
Speaker 3: been preaching on for now, but or damn near twenty years,
Speaker 3: damn near twenty years. It's impossible to maintain the lifestyle
Speaker 3: that you're afforded to live when you're playing the game.
Speaker 3: You lose sight of reality, you lose sight of logic,
Speaker 3: you lose sight of COmON sense, being able to budget
Speaker 3: and feeling that this money will always be coming in.
Speaker 3: Because you make one hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 3: millions as an NBA player. You gotta take your chicken.
Speaker 3: You got to You got to save for a rainy day,
Speaker 3: because you can end up in situations like this where
Speaker 3: you want to continue to maintain that lifestyle even when
Speaker 3: you're done playing, and it's impossible to do unc. It's impossible.
Speaker 3: There is nothing chat stay with me, real quick. Now,
Speaker 3: stay with me, real quick. Think about what can you
Speaker 3: do in life in general as an athlete. I'm just
Speaker 3: gonna throw a figure out there where you can make
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 3: or six fifty a week a week UNC and a
Speaker 3: six month span. What can you There's nothing, nothing you
Speaker 3: can do. So you got to plan accordingly if you're
Speaker 3: making a if you're making one hundred million, have a
Speaker 3: five year goal, or have somebody that you trust with
Speaker 3: your finances and setting things up to make sure you
Speaker 3: don't Hell, even I had a budget when I was playing,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: Refuse, huh yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I refuse.
Speaker 1: You better have budget.
Speaker 3: I refuse it over that monthly budget, and I would
Speaker 3: hope I didn't. So whatever I did spend, it can
Speaker 3: fall into the next line for the next month. And
Speaker 3: I got a little extra to spend. But you get
Speaker 3: caught up in the lifestyle. You get caught up in
Speaker 3: the in the chicks and the jewelry and the ig
Speaker 3: and trying to look like you got and trying.
Speaker 4: To man, it ain't worth it, man, it ain't.
Speaker 1: It ain't worth it, man, Because if you think about
Speaker 1: the Overhoe. Because here's the thing is that I don't
Speaker 1: know how NFL Baseball, NBA players, maybe they get faced,
Speaker 1: but you know, you get a check basically from September
Speaker 1: until the end of the season. And if you make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, yeah you get playoff money, but it's not
Speaker 1: nearly the money that you make in the regular season,
Speaker 1: unless unless you want of those lesson toier guys, one
Speaker 1: of those lesson to your guys, the playoff money might
Speaker 1: be more than what they asks me getting during the
Speaker 1: course of the week. But with that being said, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get money from September to let's just say January,
Speaker 1: the end of January, September, October, November, December, January fifth,
Speaker 1: so let's just say the end of james last five months.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get money February, March, April, May, June, July, August.
Speaker 1: Ain't no money coming in. Are you still living in
Speaker 1: an apartment? Are you still do you still have a mortgage,
Speaker 1: do you still have car payments? If you have kids,
Speaker 1: are those kids still going to daycare? Are they in
Speaker 1: private school? So, because you still spending like from September
Speaker 1: to January, but ain't no money coming in from February
Speaker 1: through August. So now what So imagine that now I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you playing in the NFL and you got a five
Speaker 1: months per in which money is coming in. Now you
Speaker 1: lead the league. What the money coming in? A't Joe?
Speaker 1: Hold on? So you mean to tell me you ain't
Speaker 1: got no money coming in? But you still you still
Speaker 1: big balling, you still buying balled, you still got tables. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of still traveling.
Speaker 3: Have this this mindset. They love to throw the word
Speaker 3: investment out. I'm not a gambling man, I'm not a batman.
Speaker 3: But investments are cool summer, high risk, low reward, and
Speaker 3: I've heard so many horror stories about people that are investing,
Speaker 3: investing in this, investing in that expecting a quick turnaround,
Speaker 3: hoping that later on in the future that this investment
Speaker 3: it turns into fruition. Nine times out of ten, it
Speaker 3: really never works that way. I'm just being honest. It
Speaker 3: never works that way. Because if it did work that
Speaker 3: way for all the athletes that make all this money
Speaker 3: when they're playing, then the ability to sustain the lifestyle
Speaker 3: that many portray.
Speaker 4: You would see it. It would be shown.
Speaker 3: And if you look at it through every era, through
Speaker 3: every era of football. You ever notice once players stopped
Speaker 3: playing the game of football that the lifestyle has to change.
Speaker 3: It has always changed. Can you show me one player
Speaker 3: from your era? And I'm thinking of those that are
Speaker 3: in my era that still live the exact same lifestyle,
Speaker 3: if it was flashy, if it was above their means,
Speaker 3: that they when they were doing their playing days and
Speaker 3: continue to live it once they were done playing. It's impossible, man,
Speaker 3: I said, I got my ass straight in year three.
Speaker 3: In year three, I had already made it for my mind.
Speaker 3: You know it, while I'm still playing, you know what
Speaker 3: to be able to do. I'm gonna live a certain
Speaker 3: lifestyle right now, and I'm gonna stick to it because
Speaker 3: I thought to myself, Hell, if I can get my
Speaker 3: name just as big, stay with me now. If I
Speaker 3: can get my name, just my name alone, just as
Speaker 3: big as anything I can purchase, then there would be
Speaker 3: no need for me to need all.
Speaker 1: The acessories in the aesthetics.
Speaker 3: There's no need for the high end fashion, there's no
Speaker 3: need for the Lamborghinian and the Rose Royce.
Speaker 1: Because, bitch, I'm o show.
Speaker 3: So I got my name to a point where none
Speaker 3: of the fucking glitz and glamor mattered because wherever I went,
Speaker 3: you already knew who it was, so it wasn't necessary
Speaker 3: as opposed to others. Well, you know what I mean, NFL,
Speaker 3: everybody doesn't know me because I don't have the visibility.
Speaker 3: I always have a helmet on, so I have to
Speaker 3: put on thecessories for the attraction to get who I want. Hey, look,
Speaker 3: I mean and if I can get players to understand
Speaker 3: if you can handle your business on the field. It's
Speaker 3: a little different now because everybody's a brand. You got
Speaker 3: social media and all this stuff. I didn't have that,
Speaker 3: so I had to build mind from it. I had
Speaker 3: to get mine out the mud.
Speaker 1: Right, how y'all? Oh y'all. People in the chat said,
Speaker 1: I seem judgmental because the guy that was in the NBA,
Speaker 1: let's just say, for the sake of argument, big Baby
Speaker 1: made fifty million. Let's just say, for the sake of argument,
Speaker 1: he made fifty million. How am I judgmental? Am I
Speaker 1: supposed to say I feel bad for Big Baby? Hey,
Speaker 1: he made a chat a million. I'll the chat chat
Speaker 1: real quick. Give me a favorite. Look at the stats.
Speaker 3: Look at the stats on a number of NBA players
Speaker 3: that go broke once they're them playing two years remove
Speaker 3: henfl look at a broke once they're them playing.
Speaker 1: Hey, no, I'm not judging it. It's dumb. He dumb.
Speaker 1: He wasted his money. You can't get mad at me
Speaker 1: because you and I are pointing out the the things
Speaker 1: that people that guys did that caused them to be
Speaker 1: in this situation. He chose this. You get mad at us,
Speaker 1: You not mad at big baby that he defrauded the
Speaker 1: He defrauded the system that was in place to help
Speaker 1: him and help others. He's not the only one that's
Speaker 1: on hard times. So it's in other words, if I
Speaker 1: fall on hard times, damn anybody else. Let me go
Speaker 1: get it. I don't get sometimes, I don't get us.
Speaker 1: I don't get us because look I understood when I
Speaker 1: took responsibility, I had kids and had them back to
Speaker 1: back to back. Yeah, they're my responsibility. And as I
Speaker 1: told my agent, I had the same agent for twenty
Speaker 1: six since nineteen ninety six, so twenty eight years September
Speaker 1: twenty eight years I've had Marvin, And he asked me,
Speaker 1: he said, what do you want for yourself? I said, Marvin,
Speaker 1: I want to live the same lifestyle right now, twenty
Speaker 1: five years he got the kids. I got three. How old?
Speaker 1: I told him how old it was. He said, well,
Speaker 1: go get me all your financials. The only thing I
Speaker 1: owned was a household joke, that's the only thing I had.
Speaker 1: And cars that were already paid for. He said, well,
Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. This, this, this and this,
Speaker 1: and what you need to do is start sitting up
Speaker 1: stuff for college to make sure, no matter what happens
Speaker 1: to you, the kids college because they shouldn't suffer because
Speaker 1: you're reckless. That's the one thing he told me. Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Hey, I'm gonna advise you. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing about advisors. I can advise o Choe all I
Speaker 1: want to. O Cho made that money. O Cho's gonna
Speaker 1: do what he wants to do. I can offer him
Speaker 1: all the advice that I want. But if Oo, I
Speaker 1: can't make o Cho because O chose an went on
Speaker 1: the field taking those hits. He told me, he said,
Speaker 1: look here, if you want to be reckless and get
Speaker 1: careless with your money and not do what I advise
Speaker 1: you to do, the kids are gonna be taken care of. Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: But I said that's not good enough. I said, I
Speaker 1: still got a grandma, and I got a sister. Boom
Speaker 1: boom boom, so for me, and oh, you don't going
Speaker 1: on a vacation. That's why I ain't gonna go vacation,
Speaker 1: right because that was gonna cost me money. So I
Speaker 1: was gonna have to play. You know, I'm gonna fly
Speaker 1: first class. I'm gonna stay in five star hotel. So
Speaker 1: now I'm spending twenty five thirty thousand dollars. Nah nah,
Speaker 1: nah nah, I could divide it up times three. That's
Speaker 1: the kid. So when the kids get ready to go
Speaker 1: to college, they're taking care of Now we're fortunate, Oh Jo,
Speaker 1: we were good enough that we could talk, we can
Speaker 1: talk the game. We got great personalities, we're affable, we're
Speaker 1: likable that we're able to parlay that. You and I
Speaker 1: have a podcast. I have Club Shay Shay. I'm on
Speaker 1: first Take. I did CBS as soon as I left
Speaker 1: the league for a decade. I did seven years on Undisputed.
Speaker 1: So everybody is not fortunate, and you have to understand that.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't banking on being able to have that.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna have to have the money that
Speaker 1: I made. I didn't look, I was a seventh round
Speaker 1: draft pick. I didn't start making a million dollars select
Speaker 1: my fourth or fifth year in the league, so I
Speaker 1: had to make up Yo, yeah for sure. So I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what I gotta do. And so if I'm
Speaker 1: fortunate enough that I was able to like get money
Speaker 1: and from a CBS for ten years, say out of
Speaker 1: two years now for me, oh Joe, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I really want to get back on television. I say,
Speaker 1: but you know, and my agent was telling me to
Speaker 1: say out of sight, out of mind. I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: like what can I do? They call around. It's like,
Speaker 1: what if you did? What if you broke down three
Speaker 1: or four games, pay for it out of your own pocket,
Speaker 1: get somebody to edit it and put it on your
Speaker 1: own Facebook page, but say no more. Every week fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, do three they edit, they cut it every week.
Speaker 1: That's what I did out of my own pocket. Now
Speaker 1: mind you ain't no money coming in. That's just so
Speaker 1: I hope an ESPN or somebody would see notice me
Speaker 1: and say, man, I like I like the way you
Speaker 1: break down game. I like the way here. Yeah, it happened,
Speaker 1: but everybody. But still, even if those things didn't happen,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna defraud somebody because I know having played
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I've gone around enough to see
Speaker 1: guys that actually need the money. So when I go
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame and they say, well, Shannon,
Speaker 1: can you sign this and we'll pay you X amount
Speaker 1: of dollars, I said, don't give it to me. I
Speaker 1: don't need it. Give it to somebody that's not as
Speaker 1: fortunate or didn't play in the era in which they
Speaker 1: made the money that I made, don't. I don't need nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm good. So anytime the NFL or the play or
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame asks me to do something and
Speaker 1: they want to pay me, nah, just give it to
Speaker 1: the players that need it more than I do. I
Speaker 1: don't need. Shannon is good. Shannon has been blessed God
Speaker 1: and blessed. Shannon gave me the ability to play the
Speaker 1: game for an extended period of time. He give me
Speaker 1: the opportunity to talk, to be able to articulate my points,
Speaker 1: have a strong point of view on television. I'm good,
Speaker 1: but I can I don't get I don't like people
Speaker 1: to play. I don't like people to do stuff like that. Man,
Speaker 1: don't don't cheat the system, especially when you have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to beat the system. Oh you know how virtuate
Speaker 1: we are to play a game that's a child's game
Speaker 1: and you get played man.
Speaker 3: And you get paid a heavy rantom, a heavy ransom.
Speaker 3: I mean, listens, it all comes back. It all come
Speaker 3: down to the discipline. It all comes down to financial discipline.
Speaker 3: They have the Rookies Imposium. I'm sure they have the
Speaker 3: resources in the NBA teaching how to manage your money,
Speaker 3: understand how to deal with the women, understanding how to
Speaker 3: deal with the chicks. Again, fellas a lot of fellas
Speaker 3: out there, I'm in the chat. I know some of
Speaker 3: y'all want to see this in the NBA, some of
Speaker 3: y'all want to see this in the NFL entourages. And
Speaker 3: as one person, they all, they all eating off one person.
Speaker 3: That money goes fast.
Speaker 1: It goes fast. Wasn't that? Wasn't that a TV series
Speaker 1: or movie?
Speaker 3: It goes fast, it goes, it goes fast. I know
Speaker 3: people look at it today, especially today's game. The players
Speaker 3: that are playing right now, Oh, I'm making way more
Speaker 3: than we made when we was playing back then. But again,
Speaker 3: if you make it more, then you're spending more, especially
Speaker 3: when the destructure and the financial discipline ain't there. So
Speaker 3: the fact that you make it way more money as
Speaker 3: opposed to when we did when we were playing.
Speaker 1: It, don't make it none. It don't make it none.
Speaker 4: It's going to run out every time.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you.
Speaker 3: So when the air that's playing right now, when the
Speaker 3: air that's playing right now is done, ten eleven years
Speaker 3: from now, when i'm what i'll be sixty five, then
Speaker 3: I'm still going to be living the same exact lifestyle
Speaker 3: the same way.
Speaker 1: Yes, I I just hope to be living God listen,
Speaker 1: God willing, God willing, God willing, God will, God willing.
Speaker 1: That's it. Oh But like I said, mean I understood
Speaker 1: what I wanted. I wanted my family out of the environment,
Speaker 1: my brother. That was really the only thing that my
Speaker 1: brother and I we talked about. We didn't really ever
Speaker 1: talk about girls anything. You're like, man, I just want
Speaker 1: to make some money, get granted out of this situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, man, Man, You I don't know, Man, I
Speaker 1: just that was all that was all I thought about.
Speaker 1: And the thing is still to this day, like anybody
Speaker 1: that comes into my life. They understand, right, I got you.
Speaker 1: I got your mom too, got your I got your
Speaker 1: mom and your dad. But you best believe Mary ALA's
Speaker 1: deck Sait Cheryl sharp, oh Sterling sharp. Oh, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: got you. If your mom and dad needs something, were good,
Speaker 1: but you best believed. Don't ever, don't ever. I got
Speaker 1: into a lot of this shuit. Well, why you take
Speaker 1: causes my money? You see the hips, you see the
Speaker 1: eye socket, you see this collar bone that's broken. M h.
Speaker 1: And when I didn't have a damn thing, I could
Speaker 1: go to my sister's boyfriend. She'd tell, hey, just sharing
Speaker 1: fifty dollars. When I didn't have anything, my grandma was
Speaker 1: sending me five dollars. Put it in newspapers so they
Speaker 1: couldn't see it in the mail room and take it.
Speaker 1: My brother made sure I had so they could for life. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, that's that's how I am. I'm always
Speaker 1: I'm always gonna rock with my family. Look, we're gonna disagree.
Speaker 1: Family disagree. My brother don't agree with everything I say.
Speaker 1: My sister don't agree. I don't agree with them. We
Speaker 1: just we get upset. But guess what they know that hey,
Speaker 1: they got them. That's the way you got.
Speaker 3: Your argumists, no arguments anymore. Obviously, no Mom's going, Grandma
Speaker 3: is gone. So my my my.
Speaker 4: Nucleus obviously is my kids.
Speaker 3: I got my brother Chauncey, I got my brother Sam
Speaker 3: uh and and and that's it. I don't I don't
Speaker 3: have I don't have much overhead, you know, obviously I
Speaker 3: have a lot of kids. I am thankful, thankful for
Speaker 3: those that have kids from because they are the reason
Speaker 3: this train is continuing to move and able to move
Speaker 3: the way it does because there's no ill intent. They understand,
Speaker 3: they've always understood what the end goal was at the
Speaker 3: end of the day for the betterment of the child,
Speaker 3: which is why they're all striving well and their respecting
Speaker 3: crabs and what they do like no issues, no issue.
Speaker 1: I just I just for some.
Speaker 3: Reason, I got lucky even though I didn't do things
Speaker 3: the traditional way, the way I did do it it
Speaker 3: works well. Which is why every time you ever, you
Speaker 3: ever notice, I always praise those because there are individuals
Speaker 3: in my life that can make life live in hell
Speaker 3: and it would be no way it would be going
Speaker 3: the way it's going on this track.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely, they definitely could. They could have made
Speaker 1: it to us.
Speaker 4: I see, I see it we have.
Speaker 1: On Twitter.
Speaker 3: I see some of the stuff on Instagram, and and boy,
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get in that and change the subject, but.
Speaker 1: It happens. I mean, look, we're all young. I had
Speaker 1: kids at a young age. Their mom was young. We
Speaker 1: had disagreements, and like I told us to look, I mean,
Speaker 1: y'all got me out here stretched out like this here,
Speaker 1: and people think I'm putting hands on y'all. And they
Speaker 1: all they see is Hanna has eight this and eight back.
Speaker 1: They don't realize those are child modification hearing. All they
Speaker 1: see is eight ten child Shannon Sharp in court. But
Speaker 1: there was a child modifications for more money. I was like, go, look, look,
Speaker 1: how y'all got me out here? Y'all got people think
Speaker 1: I'm out here reckless, and now I'm doing all this
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. Y'all do y'all even care? I said, because
Speaker 1: at some point in time, these kids gonna get old,
Speaker 1: they gonna be able to see this stuff and they
Speaker 1: gonna say, well, mom, why was why was Shannon? Why
Speaker 1: was it Shannon them in court? Why was shouting? My
Speaker 1: daddy was in court five times, six times, eight times,
Speaker 1: ten times and then what y'all gonna say, But he
Speaker 1: was paying for but he was playing for private school,
Speaker 1: he paying for college, he doing he paying for everything.
Speaker 1: So why yeah, on that we better.
Speaker 3: Said you weren't I'm assuming, I'm assuming you weren't as
Speaker 3: fortunate in that area. I for me, this is where
Speaker 3: this is weird to me to say, and the chat
Speaker 3: probably won't, probably won't agree.
Speaker 1: But I like child support.
Speaker 3: I like child support when I was playing because I
Speaker 3: wanted to be able to focus on the game of football.
Speaker 3: Now the child support for me, I enjoyed the structure
Speaker 3: of it because I need to be focused on this.
Speaker 3: So I had no problem with the structured child support
Speaker 3: that that I had going on, because listen, I need
Speaker 3: to focus on the game. Whatever you need, whatever the
Speaker 3: child needs, it's going to be taken care of. So
Speaker 3: then when things changed in football, was no longer coming
Speaker 3: around like everybody was okay, they understood that you give
Speaker 3: them going others. Sometimes you have kids, know, they trying
Speaker 3: to take you through the wringer, you know, when the
Speaker 3: money's not the same. Oh, they trying to find ways
Speaker 3: to continue to get to keep that train of that
Speaker 3: trail of money always gone. No, no, issues. No, no
Speaker 3: issues at all.
Speaker 1: You know what at Ojo And even when I left
Speaker 1: the game. You gotta realize I left the game. My
Speaker 1: kids were barely teenagers. And my people are like, well,
Speaker 1: oh you go, okay, you're gonna go for child modifications.
Speaker 1: I said, No, I said, because the kids have already
Speaker 1: been established to this lifestyle. If they go down, if
Speaker 1: they go down the list, they're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to have that. That's not their fault. They didn't ask
Speaker 1: to come and they didn't ask to be put in
Speaker 1: the situation. No, we're gonna keep everything the same. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, O Joe, my kids, I had my kids.
Speaker 1: You get insurance five years after you retire. After that, man,
Speaker 1: you know what insurance is for teenage kids. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: you tell me. Well, you ain't got to tell me
Speaker 1: they can have kids. No, I know. Yeah, I'm putting that.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no trouble. That's my But that's my
Speaker 1: responsibility because I made them, and I told I promised.
Speaker 1: My grandma. She's like, okay, boy, that's the only thing
Speaker 1: my girl say. You take care of them kids. Okay, granted,
Speaker 1: no problem, but that's all I said. That's the only
Speaker 1: thing that I ended up telling my kids, my kids mom,
Speaker 1: It's like y'all got man, y'all got people out here
Speaker 1: thinking I'm crazy because every time Shanna, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's it's public record, Oh Shannon got and and people
Speaker 1: still like, well, you got all these you've been to
Speaker 1: court ten times. Well it's child modification. They want to
Speaker 1: bump and pay. No, Shanna and I have been reckless.
Speaker 1: Shannon here doing what he's supposed to do, trying to
Speaker 1: be the best person he can be, try to be
Speaker 1: the best father he can be. And hey, I give
Speaker 1: them credit because they did do a great job of
Speaker 1: explaining to the kids, your dad has to do this
Speaker 1: so you can have that. And they let me get
Speaker 1: the kids during the summer. I put them in summer camp. Hey,
Speaker 1: what y'all want to do? They go to summer camp
Speaker 1: for three weeks. We do we know, we do stuff.
Speaker 1: We go, we we go out to eat, we go
Speaker 1: to At that point in time, what you know about
Speaker 1: I take them that, I took him. I take it.
Speaker 1: I took it the ESPN zone, you know, and so
Speaker 1: we played. You know, I got a black jack table.
Speaker 1: I'm teaching them how to play black James. We play
Speaker 1: a monopoly. We played all the board games I got.
Speaker 1: You know, I ain't no video I ain't no video
Speaker 1: game buff o Joes. But you know they want to
Speaker 1: play video game. They love it because they got something
Speaker 1: they can beat me in. So so we we you know,
Speaker 1: we we we we did. We did a lot. We did.
Speaker 1: I did a lot when the time that I had them,
Speaker 1: especially especially like Friday, Saturdays and Sundays. I'm training during
Speaker 1: the week, but they could. Hey, we go into the
Speaker 1: movies every weekend. There, let's go to the movies. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll put them in the movie theater. Say look, I'll
Speaker 1: come back and get your X amount of time. Hey, yeah, icy,
Speaker 1: is this big? Why both of y'all need a large,
Speaker 1: A large, a bucket of popcorn? Watch you y'all y'all
Speaker 1: eight nine years old? Why y'all can't share a bucket
Speaker 1: of popcorn? But everybody got to get a jumbo popcorn.
Speaker 1: Everybody got to get a jumbo slushy, everybody got to
Speaker 1: get care. I love that.
Speaker 4: Do you know what A few like?
Speaker 3: You know, I never had on tourage before. You know,
Speaker 3: I had friends. I had friends, that was it. But
Speaker 3: it's something about when I have all the kids together,
Speaker 3: and it's about eleven is about eleven of us. I'm somebody,
Speaker 3: let somebody eleven of us all together?
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You know, look, look, dog, you have to rid out
Speaker 3: the whole tel Well, when we marbling through an airport?
Speaker 3: Are we marbling in Jamaica? We in the Bahamas, we
Speaker 3: in the d about dog? That is one of the
Speaker 3: best feelings in the world. Man, So I love I
Speaker 3: love it. Hell, you know, it's summertime almost here. Now
Speaker 3: we got we got our annual trip every summer. I'm
Speaker 3: taking all the kids to do bay.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't listen, boy, we we could have a time.
Speaker 1: He checked this out on you all the break. Check
Speaker 1: this out. Sixty percent of NFL players have five bankruptcy
Speaker 1: within twelve years of retiring. A Sports Illustrated article seventy
Speaker 1: eight percent of NFL players sixty percent of NBA players
Speaker 1: face serious financial hardships after retirement. Let me see, let
Speaker 1: me say this again. Sixteen percent of NFL players have
Speaker 1: five bankruptcy within twelve years of retiring. A Sports Illustrated
Speaker 1: are article reports seventy eight percent of NFL players and
Speaker 1: sixty percent of NBA players face serious financial financial hardship.
Speaker 1: A seventy eight percent of NFL players sixty percent of
Speaker 1: NBA players face serious financial hardships after retiring.
Speaker 4: Hey man, I mean the number.
Speaker 3: The numbers are there. The numbers have always been there.
Speaker 3: That's why I've continued to preach it over and over
Speaker 3: and over and over and over and over and over
Speaker 3: and over and over. Not only have I preached it
Speaker 3: over and over and over, I actually lived the lifestyle,
Speaker 3: lived it, lived it. I've lived everything I preached over
Speaker 3: the years, everything smart car, jewelry from Claire. Okay, now
Speaker 3: I kind of changed up buying pieces here and there
Speaker 3: that are the real.
Speaker 4: But just dogs.
Speaker 1: You should treat yourself.
Speaker 3: It's everybody always say. And they get caught up in
Speaker 3: the lifestyle. They get caught up in the image and
Speaker 3: having to look a certain way because you play a
Speaker 3: certain sports, you gotta drive a certain car. Because you're
Speaker 3: in the NFL. You're trying to impress this one, You're
Speaker 3: trying to impress that one. It makes no sense. I
Speaker 3: tell fellas all the time. In the NFL, it makes
Speaker 3: no sense. Once you make it, once your name goes
Speaker 3: across that ticket at the bottom, it doesn't even matter.
Speaker 4: They already think you got it.
Speaker 1: You in the NFL over the bicycle. They ride on
Speaker 1: the back of that mood or ride on the head of
Speaker 1: bars like we used to do.
Speaker 4: That point.
Speaker 1: We put somebody on the head of bars and somebody
Speaker 1: on the back, and we stand up and the women.
Speaker 4: The women, they've already done their googles. They've done their googles.
Speaker 4: They know what you're making. So you don't need to
Speaker 4: be in the.
Speaker 3: Club popping bottles and the whole section is spending twenty
Speaker 3: and thirty thousand.
Speaker 1: You ain't gotta do that. They gonna go home with
Speaker 1: you anyway.
Speaker 3: Whoever you want to talk to, they gonna talk to
Speaker 3: you anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it is what it is. I just I
Speaker 1: just wish guys, you know, did a better job of
Speaker 1: thinking because, oh Joe, you know, everybody think they're gonna
Speaker 1: play forever. Oh Joe, you know that everybody think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have a Tom Brady career.
Speaker 4: Why that's hard.
Speaker 1: That's hard, bro. There's a reason why he's the only
Speaker 1: only position player to play that length of time. You've
Speaker 1: had kickers to play. But that's what we say position.
Speaker 1: We talk about one of the positions that's not a specialty.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like a kid gunner. Those
Speaker 1: guys can play snappers, but we talk about quarterback, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: running back, old line, d line live. But one of those, bro,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna play that long man, stack that paper
Speaker 1: and there is no eas And now with the way
Speaker 1: the money, with the money that they guys make, now man, please,
Speaker 1: oh Joe. The Lakers playing to sid Lebron to any
Speaker 1: term that he wants. The Lakers are hoping to retain
Speaker 1: Lebron this offseason. Dave mcmnimon reported the Lakers intend to
Speaker 1: have Lebron James come back on any terms he wants to,
Speaker 1: whether it be a one year deal, two year deal,
Speaker 1: three year deal, whatever. They love to continue to have
Speaker 1: Lebron James and the Purple and Gold until he calls
Speaker 1: it quits whenever. That may be no surprise. He's still
Speaker 1: playing at an elite level. He gave it twenty five,
Speaker 1: eight to seven this year. He's still box office, he's
Speaker 1: still playing. He's shown no signs of decline. And it's
Speaker 1: the Lakers. The Lakers are about stars. When you go look,
Speaker 1: you go go, there's only a couple halfful of places
Speaker 1: go to the Laker games and you see all the
Speaker 1: stars lined up. You go to you go to the
Speaker 1: Unnecked game, you see all the stars lined up. That's
Speaker 1: what it's about, right, Stars attract stars.
Speaker 3: Glad you just said that, because you just lead me
Speaker 3: right into my question again. Chat y'all stay with me now.
Speaker 3: I'm learning this basketball thing on the on the fly.
Speaker 3: Give me, give me, give me another year or two.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be like Doris Burke and uncles and.
Speaker 1: Steven A talking about that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be able to talk about this ship of depth.
Speaker 1: I tell you so.
Speaker 4: Lebron has a play option if it's at any term deal.
Speaker 1: He wants.
Speaker 3: What's stopping any other NBA team making a run for him?
Speaker 3: Because you understand, even at his age, when you add
Speaker 3: Lebron to a roster to me from the outside looking
Speaker 3: in and watching him throughout the years, it makes that
Speaker 3: team an immediate contender for a final, especially if he
Speaker 3: if he goes to the right place. So there is
Speaker 3: there a chance he needs l A or is he
Speaker 3: staying there? And I know he won't be. I know
Speaker 3: Lebron is not the greedy type because he.
Speaker 4: Makes so much off the court.
Speaker 1: Will he take a will he take.
Speaker 3: A hometown discount? Shooting can add another piece, another big piece.
Speaker 1: No, I remember that. I remember Lebron James said after
Speaker 1: he took that play cut in Miami. And if I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken in chat, you can correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: He says, I'll never play on anything less than a
Speaker 1: MAX deal again, because he's saying it's not his job
Speaker 1: to fix out how to bit people in under the
Speaker 1: cat and do all that other stuff. So no, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe he does. I think he
Speaker 1: has the one year he has the player option, he
Speaker 1: could opt out of that inside another two year deal
Speaker 1: with a player option, he could opt out and sign up,
Speaker 1: you know, just the one year deal. It is his choosing.
Speaker 1: I think Lebron, I think he believes that the level
Speaker 1: that he's playing that currently, he believed he can play
Speaker 1: that level. He can hold that level for another thing.
Speaker 3: So how about you don't pigeonhole a team, because think
Speaker 3: about what you just said in Miami. He said, I
Speaker 3: will never ever play on anything other than a MAC contract.
Speaker 3: But when he wasn't on the MAC contract and allowed
Speaker 3: the other pieces to be a part of the team,
Speaker 3: what did he win too?
Speaker 1: What HM two and two championships? Case closed right there?
Speaker 1: Solved it got to solve it.
Speaker 3: You take up, you take a little bit less because
Speaker 3: you make so much away from the game of basketball.
Speaker 3: You get you another another three headed monster, the pair
Speaker 3: with you and eighty another score. Hell know, Kevin Durant
Speaker 3: right down the street. You know, Phoenix ain't too far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing, the thing is ojo. What do
Speaker 1: you say? I mean, let's just say, for the sake
Speaker 1: of argument, if you say, okay, Sharon, I need you, Okay, Shannon,
Speaker 1: you can make fifty five, fifty six million, I need
Speaker 1: you to go down to, say forty eight. He's not
Speaker 1: going down million. That's disrespectful a player, I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 3: But the players, the players, player option is fifty one
Speaker 3: right now, right that's that's that's the player option fifty one?
Speaker 1: Yes? Would it? Being Lebron?
Speaker 4: I can see Lebron say, okay, it's fifty one.
Speaker 3: I can go down to forty five because I could
Speaker 3: make up the million that I'm that I'm missing in
Speaker 3: other areas, so many other areas.
Speaker 1: Based on what he has going on. He ain't have
Speaker 1: missed that. Yeah, he probably does seventy He probably does
Speaker 1: seventy to eighty million.
Speaker 4: Again, that's why I said he's one of the few
Speaker 4: that can do.
Speaker 6: You know what.
Speaker 3: Tom Brady in New England married to the richest but
Speaker 3: the richest, bringing in forty four men.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 3: You know what, I think, it's okay, I can take
Speaker 3: these pay cuts so we can build a team necessary
Speaker 3: around me to make sure we're a contender year in
Speaker 3: the year out. And look how many chips they won,
Speaker 3: six of them.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, what billionaire you know got to be a
Speaker 1: billionaire by giving discount and giving money away. They might
Speaker 1: give that away once they get to a certain level.
Speaker 1: But the one thing we know about them they don't
Speaker 1: need any more money. But they don't need any less.
Speaker 1: See that, you're right back that you don't get to be.
Speaker 1: And it's reported that he's building one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: home up in Brentwood. Now what you think the likelihood
Speaker 1: of somebody build one hundred million dollar let's just say,
Speaker 1: oh yo oh cho building a fifty million dollar home
Speaker 1: in Miami. You think, oh, you're interested in going somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, see I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: See now that that piece of information leads he will
Speaker 3: be there, He'll be there, He'll be.
Speaker 1: There, y'all. Are y'all looking Jeff Bezos started? So did
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezel did that when he was starting Amazon? Or
Speaker 1: after he had established Amazon?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, right right right. Yes, I'm not saying people do
Speaker 1: give money away, but it's once they established that. Jeff
Speaker 1: Bezos is probably on this dividend the loan, he's probably
Speaker 1: doing three to five billion loan.
Speaker 4: Did you think about what you just said?
Speaker 1: Like sit back and like close eye, like chat, close eyes.
Speaker 4: And listen to what just said.
Speaker 1: What does he make a month three to five billion?
Speaker 5: Huh?
Speaker 3: All you brainiacs out there, think of a service or
Speaker 3: a need for the masses, and you too can be
Speaker 3: a billionaire.
Speaker 1: But see, here's the thing. Everybody always says, take a
Speaker 1: pay cut. But if your job, if your job says,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just say, for the sake of argument,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give who everybody's in the chat. You make
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand a year, and they say,
Speaker 1: you know what, guys, we need you to take a
Speaker 1: twenty percent pay cut because we want to get helling
Speaker 1: in payroll. That's going to really help this company function
Speaker 1: at a high level, and then we want to call
Speaker 1: and finances. Y'all doing it because you remember, it's for
Speaker 1: the betterment of team. You know, it's for a better
Speaker 1: minute of the team. Now, because y'all quick to jailer
Speaker 1: an athlete, take a pay cut, take a picut, and
Speaker 1: take a take a pay cut. But I'm just asking
Speaker 1: for the betterment of the team. Would y'all be willing
Speaker 1: to take a pay cut to get healing in finance,
Speaker 1: healing in HR in call and finance? Hell no, But
Speaker 1: y'all quick to jail an athlete. And people always say
Speaker 1: I would never, Oh Joe, I was that person. I
Speaker 1: remember when I was growing up and I saw somebody
Speaker 1: spent five hundred five I said, Man, I never spent
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand for a house, or I'll never spend
Speaker 1: seventy one hundred thous dollars for a watch. You say
Speaker 1: that because you're in the position that you're in. Once
Speaker 1: you get to a certain level, you do things you
Speaker 1: think differently. Most definitely, did you did you ever think,
Speaker 1: oh yo, you was spending five hundred dollars for a
Speaker 1: pair of sneakers? Considered that we was buying pro kads
Speaker 1: and Chuck Taylor's for twenty five dollars.
Speaker 3: Did never thought about it? Speaking of speaking of shoes,
Speaker 3: you remember Trauble Fox You remember you remember Elasi?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Man, yeah, yeah, what about rules? Remember rules with
Speaker 1: the zip on the side?
Speaker 4: Remember rules?
Speaker 1: Man? Look, look look at this one. Look at it,
Speaker 1: Look at this one. Look at this one. She just
Speaker 1: woke up in the out of nap. Nah, I ain't
Speaker 1: the baby?
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on rail yeah?
Speaker 6: Real?
Speaker 1: What you doing on this time with that reel? Okay?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Pajamas that he always want to put me in the
Speaker 4: camera looking at.
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 1: Why you? What you're doing up this time of that rail?
Speaker 4: Early had a long day today?
Speaker 1: How early is early? Well, so you know what you
Speaker 1: need to get your husband out there and get them
Speaker 1: and get them working too, because two can stack paper
Speaker 1: better than what whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa? Wait, send
Speaker 1: of down, man, I'm working, I'm working.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, you're not love, You not love to
Speaker 4: say what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Okay now, man, no, man, man, okay, hey, hey, reel,
Speaker 1: I got to tell you what oh you're making? So
Speaker 1: you can cut, because you can cut some of the
Speaker 1: people some of his bread whoa wha timet time, my
Speaker 1: time out. You you understand.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm in a very fortunate situation to where she's
Speaker 3: the breadwinner. She brings in more money, which is why
Speaker 3: I don't want to sign. No, I don't want to
Speaker 3: sign them papers. I'm I'm trying to protect myself. Worry
Speaker 3: about it, rail, I'm trying to protect myself now, I mean, listen, listen,
Speaker 3: we have to do that. Look look how women have
Speaker 3: done Look how women have done us our years. Look
Speaker 3: how they've done us throughout the years. We've always come
Speaker 3: on to lose again because when they decide they want
Speaker 3: to leave, they take half everything.
Speaker 1: They take't half the money at all.
Speaker 3: The you said it just right, so they I'm trying
Speaker 3: to protect myself. If she wakes up one day, you
Speaker 3: know how women are. One day they love you Monday,
Speaker 3: on Friday, they wake up, they don't feel the same
Speaker 3: no more. That's life. That's the reality of life. And
Speaker 3: I try to stay within the realms of reality. So
Speaker 3: if she decides, you know, you don't want to be
Speaker 3: it no more.
Speaker 1: I need the protection.
Speaker 3: Why would I sign a prenup if you leave? I
Speaker 3: want half of what you got and that's final. I
Speaker 3: don't care what people think about me. I don't care shit.
Speaker 1: And you can take you who had just leave me?
Speaker 1: The kids.
Speaker 4: Take you?
Speaker 1: Who are that what they do normally do on the time,
Speaker 1: they take half the money in all the hu has.
Speaker 1: They ain't no fair trade to me. Hey, Johonne, you
Speaker 1: gotta leave. You gotta leave third over here with me
Speaker 1: thirty on Mondays, then third on Mondays and Thursday. She
Speaker 1: got to drop it off. That's all I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: as the Thursday drop it off, that's a good one. Hey.
Speaker 1: Sons fired Frank Bogel. Phoenix Fried fired Frank Vogel after
Speaker 1: just one season. The decision comes after the number six
Speaker 1: seed Sons was swept by the number three seed, the
Speaker 1: Timberwolves in the first round. Three of the first four
Speaker 1: three of the first round losses came by double digit
Speaker 1: The Son brought in Boguel on a reported five year,
Speaker 1: thirty one million dollar deal last offseason to replace Monty Williams.
Speaker 1: Phoenix then brought went out and acquired Bradley Bell to
Speaker 1: form the Big three along with Kevin Durant and Devin Booker.
Speaker 1: But the star study Sons didn't come close to reaching
Speaker 1: their championship aspirations. They finished sixth in the Western Conference,
Speaker 1: where the record of forty nine and thirty three as
Speaker 1: Bill missed Bradley Bill missed twenty nine regular season game,
Speaker 1: Booker missed fourteen. Kevin duran seven.
Speaker 3: I got, I got my hand up some waiting on
Speaker 3: the call me because call on me, because I feel
Speaker 3: like I'm in class as I'm learning the NBA.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I can? I can I ask a question? Okay? Okay?
Speaker 1: So the Sun job.
Speaker 4: Again for me?
Speaker 3: Service level from the outside looking in Bradley Beal, Devin Booker,
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: All world perfect, who wouldn't want to coach there?
Speaker 3: But when I look at it is a Sun job,
Speaker 3: a trap job in the NBA, because I think it's
Speaker 3: a setup for failure, because I think in management, whatever
Speaker 3: coach they bring in with a team like that, with
Speaker 3: a three headed months like that, were players of that caliber,
Speaker 3: especially with the kind of kind of money they're being played,
Speaker 3: I think in championship or bus.
Speaker 1: So it is a setup. It is m hm, well, well,
Speaker 1: who's the best fit? You know?
Speaker 3: NBA coaches, you know, you know, you know better than
Speaker 3: not just what coach out there that's available is the
Speaker 3: best fit for that situation, knowing that if you don't
Speaker 3: win a championship immediately, you probably want and done.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing they seem to be all Arrow
Speaker 1: seemed to be pointing towards Mike Budenholzer, who was the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Milwaukee Bucks just a year ago,
Speaker 1: and then they fired him, fired Bud and then brought
Speaker 1: in Adrian Griffin, who they fired him forty three games
Speaker 1: into the season, and brought in Doc Rivers and so
Speaker 1: many Williams went to Detroit. They brought in Frankie v
Speaker 1: gave a five year deal thirty one million dollars to
Speaker 1: coach their Big three. And the Big three comes with expectations,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, you see the championship. And that's what it
Speaker 1: comes down to. Is it's really that simple. It's sad,
Speaker 1: that's what it's come down to, because everything is about
Speaker 1: championships because we've made it forget that. If you don't
Speaker 1: want to see the thing is now, if you don't
Speaker 1: want a championship, you're boom. I mean that that's that's
Speaker 1: it's sad, but that's what it is. It's you're bom
Speaker 1: and so the the there is no more developing. They say, well,
Speaker 1: once we put it together, it's like, oh Joe, if
Speaker 1: we put chocolate, Carol Mel and peanuts together, it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be great candy, but nothing else. I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear nothing. We gave you three of the best
Speaker 1: and greetors that you could possibly have for candy. And
Speaker 1: so when you put three top level players together, people
Speaker 1: automatically assume that you're supposed to win a championship, and
Speaker 1: when you don't, it's messed up.
Speaker 3: So you answer them a question is basically a trap job.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure why anyone would want that, but it
Speaker 3: is what it is.
Speaker 1: For the money.
Speaker 3: Money, How you gonna come in coaching. You're gonna be
Speaker 3: fired if it doesn't work out, just for the money.
Speaker 1: But I'm take thirty. I'm gonna take thirty a median
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 3: Hey, since since we're on basketball, I just want I
Speaker 3: just want to show you see if you remember these.
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Speaker 1: that walking around They have it. Yeah, yeah, they know,
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