Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is only as old as
Speaker 1: they feel. From the Chris Westling podcast studio, It's around
Speaker 1: the NFL. I am Dan hansis Room Heroes Everywhere, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, the Great Colleen Wolf. How is everybody? We're great,
Speaker 1: really good. That's a great zummi drop because it is
Speaker 1: Graybeards day here on around the NFL, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to it in a little bit breaking down the
Speaker 1: best remaining free agents age thirty and over, and it's
Speaker 1: pretty decent crop. I'm not gonna say it's as good
Speaker 1: as the team last year, which I predicted would be
Speaker 1: ten and seven, a pushback of all the Graybeards finish
Speaker 1: in the end last season as usual, they ended up
Speaker 1: at four and thirteen. But I had a lot of
Speaker 1: optimism about the Graybeards last year. This team I'm not
Speaker 1: as pumped about. I mean, they were better than the
Speaker 1: Bears in the Texans, so they definitely closed better than
Speaker 1: the Bears. They were competitive throughout the season. Um And
Speaker 1: we'll also go through some news. We had our big
Speaker 1: atn dinner with a Grave Digger yesterday. Oh yeah, a
Speaker 1: State of the Union. That was nice. Justin How was that.
Speaker 1: I know it was long waited and uh, we had
Speaker 1: a couple of diabolos. Oh yeah, you know, it was
Speaker 1: nice tequila drink there in Culver City. It was fun.
Speaker 1: I had a good time with you guys. Feel like
Speaker 1: we bonded a little more, got close. Felt did you
Speaker 1: feel like? I had a tremendous, tremendous time And it
Speaker 1: was a pleasure to have justin there and to talk
Speaker 1: to him um ever since. I mean, it sent me
Speaker 1: into the night and I just feel that I'm on
Speaker 1: sort of eternal autopilot. Graver and Cessler have complained about
Speaker 1: lack of sleeping now Grave Diggers, partly because it's paramore.
Speaker 1: Jessica also was out drinking last night and he just
Speaker 1: said they didn't get a lot of sleep. So get
Speaker 1: into that now. Well, I did have her in the
Speaker 1: middle of our dinner, had to pull out my phone
Speaker 1: do a quick FaceTime. He's got bits he had. He
Speaker 1: did this during the dinner. He had did get me.
Speaker 1: I bought it. I bought that you were truly gonna
Speaker 1: face Well. Once we learned that Super Bowl week that
Speaker 1: you had a five hour FaceTime uh and watched a
Speaker 1: movie together, I was like, Okay, everything is believable at
Speaker 1: this point. So but that means you guys are in love? Yes,
Speaker 1: so good for you? Good for you has a little
Speaker 1: anxious attachment. Do you guys? Go on? Do you guys
Speaker 1: have UM like in your neighborhood or I live in
Speaker 1: kind of like a small town like a community. Uh? People,
Speaker 1: do they know that you're like NFL network people like
Speaker 1: the people into mind you. I've never even met my
Speaker 1: current neighbors, so I would say no unless I'm being
Speaker 1: heavily spot I mean twice in the ten year period
Speaker 1: someone has either seen me running or walking UM and
Speaker 1: said like NFL network. But that's that's the limit of it.
Speaker 1: Real They were strangers and the like that happens here
Speaker 1: and there, but not not in this friendly what about you?
Speaker 1: I tried to talk to my neighbors. They don't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with me. Actually, yesterday I rolled down
Speaker 1: my window to try and say hello to someone that
Speaker 1: lives on my street and she just kept walking and
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, fine, we won't be friends. I
Speaker 1: won't have any friends in this neighborhood. Didn't you eat?
Speaker 1: Because I think this happened to all of us. Story
Speaker 1: in Corona when you're broadcasting out of like a room
Speaker 1: in your house, and you realize it's coming right through
Speaker 1: the window into the neighbors yard or territory. Weren't you
Speaker 1: didn't you receive a complaint? Oh? I got a passive
Speaker 1: aggressive written note left that please asking me to please
Speaker 1: close the windows when I'm working and broadcasting because my
Speaker 1: voice carries. And multiple times there would be neighbors that
Speaker 1: yelled turned down the TV, and then John would yell back,
Speaker 1: she is the TV. Yeah. So it's like a Bronx
Speaker 1: high rise in nineteen sixty where in a tight lea
Speaker 1: I saw that apartment. It was tightly packed in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was hosting Total Access day a weekroom. Why
Speaker 1: did we just keep doing everything when coronavirus was raging?
Speaker 1: I think ultimately changed anything. We just did everything from
Speaker 1: our homes. Well, there was the need for paychecks to
Speaker 1: continue to floss their way into the budget. I bring
Speaker 1: it up because, um, yeah, because I'm also like a
Speaker 1: very active as you are. Greg. I know a little
Speaker 1: league dad, so I know a lot of the people,
Speaker 1: and I've gotten to know the people in the town
Speaker 1: and they do know I work in NFL Network and
Speaker 1: one are the lines that I get a lot, and
Speaker 1: somebody did it, said it to me in my driveway
Speaker 1: while I had the leaf blower out. The other day,
Speaker 1: he goes on my yardwork getting my tan and he's
Speaker 1: like hey, and it could tell he was thinking of
Speaker 1: something to say. He's like, what am I gonna say?
Speaker 1: What are we gonna say? He's like, recovered from the
Speaker 1: super Bowl yet? And that is like the mote. That's
Speaker 1: the trope line that everyone says to me, Hey, recover
Speaker 1: from the super Bowl? Yet, I'm like, well, I think
Speaker 1: the Statue of lim Aitations is up on that small talk.
Speaker 1: It's almost April, sir, do you ever get that? You
Speaker 1: ever get a hey, we're covering from that super Bowl yet?
Speaker 1: I mean that specifically, live in a community besides me,
Speaker 1: I'm close even with a number of my neighbors. But
Speaker 1: the NFL network thing never come, never came up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't care about football, or it's never it's never
Speaker 1: been brought up. Um, all right, that was good, All right,
Speaker 1: let's uh get to the news. Had one funny experience.
Speaker 1: I you know, one of the rappers is to Is
Speaker 1: two Chains, and so I saw him on the sidelines.
Speaker 1: But one of our games. We had invited him, I guess,
Speaker 1: And I didn't know why. I didn't know why he
Speaker 1: was called to change. I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1: And I said, hello, staff, make sure you point them
Speaker 1: out to me. I want to be respectful. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't probably listen to his stuff particularly, but I
Speaker 1: do want to be respectful and I appreciate his support,
Speaker 1: you know. So they did, and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: and I said, I can see why. You know, your
Speaker 1: nickname is two chains, these big chains around his neck
Speaker 1: and what have you. So he said to me, well,
Speaker 1: do you want you know, I mean, we can get
Speaker 1: some chains for you. I said, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think about it. I'm not sure that's the right look
Speaker 1: for me. But the two chains, Arthur Smith, excuse me,
Speaker 1: Arthur Blank, who is the owner of the Falcons, speaking
Speaker 1: of two chains, And yeah, you definitely heard the queens
Speaker 1: in Arthur Blank there when discussing two chains. I think so.
Speaker 1: And that comes on the heels of Robert Kraft casually
Speaker 1: name dropping Meek Mill making a push for Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: to England. I kind of can't believe that meek Mill
Speaker 1: didn't get it over the goal line quite Frankly, I
Speaker 1: would love to see their text conversations like they're just
Speaker 1: they're back and forth. What's that rapport? Like? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder if Robert Kraft is like, do you feel like
Speaker 1: like when way older people are texting, anything can happen.
Speaker 1: Like I would even point to go look at Tom
Speaker 1: Brokaw's tweets and things like that. It's like this was
Speaker 1: no a newsman at one point, and I'm not. He
Speaker 1: cannot put a sentence together on Twitter. So no, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get into We were talking about some of the
Speaker 1: rule changes and the proposed rules at the owners meetings
Speaker 1: this week. There is a there is a push to
Speaker 1: flex Thursday night football and make games flexible from Sunday
Speaker 1: to Thursday night. There already is a new rule and
Speaker 1: effect that now allows teams to play up to two
Speaker 1: Thursday night football games. But this is an idea of
Speaker 1: taking the looking of the schedule and then based on
Speaker 1: what you know, Let's be honest. Helps Amazon, They're a
Speaker 1: major corporate partner, and gives Al and Kirk a better
Speaker 1: game in the booth, especially late in the season. The
Speaker 1: idea of flexing games to Thursday night and that was
Speaker 1: tabled by the owners, which means it wasn't shot down,
Speaker 1: it was just pushed to the side for now, which
Speaker 1: means there's a chance that this is going to happen
Speaker 1: on the Giants co owner John mara is one of
Speaker 1: the more influential figures in the NFL, and he spoke
Speaker 1: out adamantly against the idea. I am adam alive posed
Speaker 1: to that. Flexible scheduling as it is is really inconsiderate
Speaker 1: to our season ticket holders and to people who will
Speaker 1: fill our stadiums every week. People have gotten used to
Speaker 1: going from Sunday afternoon to Sunday night. That doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that they like it. This year we could be flexed
Speaker 1: to Monday night, which I think is really inconsiderate to
Speaker 1: our ticket holders. But to flex a game back to
Speaker 1: Thursday night, to me is just abusive, abusive Greggy right there.
Speaker 1: I thought about like the history of the NFL and
Speaker 1: listening to this, because the two most vocal opponents of
Speaker 1: this rule are John Mary heard there and then the
Speaker 1: Rooney family with the Steelers, and so many of the
Speaker 1: NFL's best decisions that they've made over time have been
Speaker 1: from ownership like that original owners really pushing back what's
Speaker 1: good in the interest of the league versus owners just
Speaker 1: wanting to make money in the short term. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why the league is essentially socialist, that they share
Speaker 1: all the money that the cap it's better for all.
Speaker 1: That would never happen now. Can you imagine owners sharing
Speaker 1: all their money with other teams that are making way
Speaker 1: less money. It would never happen like that now, And
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the reasons the NFL is
Speaker 1: so great and they try to keep the long term
Speaker 1: interests in the fan in front of mine. And I
Speaker 1: loved that Maura is standing up and doing this because
Speaker 1: it is absolutely insane. To imagine a scenario where you're
Speaker 1: going to New York for a game and you find
Speaker 1: out fifteen days before it's not that far before, fifteen
Speaker 1: days before that, actually it's canceled. It's on Thursday night.
Speaker 1: Figure it out, and I think, excuse me, absurd, Mara,
Speaker 1: I think is speaking out of frustration because they only
Speaker 1: missed this as show, Absolutely do they only miss I
Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen too, I feel it
Speaker 1: coming from me. Until now I knew it was gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It only fell to votes shy and so I think
Speaker 1: Mara knows that, you know, behind the scenes, they're gonna
Speaker 1: find a way to get two people to say yes,
Speaker 1: because it's it's just inevitable, and it just it made
Speaker 1: me think randomly of that Corona era Raven Steelers game
Speaker 1: that happened at three forty Eastern on a Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: the quality of that game. For multiple reasons, you know
Speaker 1: that would be different, but t enough games to me
Speaker 1: always feel a little tilted, a little strange, a little
Speaker 1: bit of a lower quality product um And I just
Speaker 1: think we're moving closer and closer to games happening all
Speaker 1: week long, all the time, which I know, Greg, you
Speaker 1: sort of said that was a you were witch casting
Speaker 1: that at one point I felt years ago, I was
Speaker 1: at a different point in my life. I feel differently
Speaker 1: when I when we started to experience elements of that
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, was like, we don't need that, right,
Speaker 1: so you don't and the players don't. I know, that
Speaker 1: was just funny, how seriously you said that it was
Speaker 1: a different man. Then It just was like it was
Speaker 1: back when I was working at Rhoda World. I started
Speaker 1: at the two games a day for the whole season.
Speaker 1: Theory yeah, but now I need more time. You're in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, we did I think I hosted Thursday Night
Speaker 1: Football on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And
Speaker 1: I'm so intimately familiar with the games that we've had
Speaker 1: on Thursdays throughout the years. And the Broncos Colts game
Speaker 1: from last year still haunts me. That went into overtime,
Speaker 1: that was so incredibly terrible, and that when they wouldn't
Speaker 1: avoid it. That was Week three and like everyone thought
Speaker 1: that'd be a good game with Russell Wilson and that
Speaker 1: one you still get stuck with. It was actually so
Speaker 1: bad that it ended up becoming entertaining. It came back around.
Speaker 1: It went so far off. But you can't put people
Speaker 1: out like that. It's so expensive, first of all to
Speaker 1: attend a game as a fan, and then it's extravagant
Speaker 1: to travel if you go on the road, you're paying
Speaker 1: for hotels, you're paying for flights, you're doing all of
Speaker 1: this ahead of time. That's so much money that you're
Speaker 1: putting people out there. People are taking off from work.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is it just I feel like that
Speaker 1: has to be a non starter. But obviously if there's
Speaker 1: it's close, and Roger Goodell was really upset. You can
Speaker 1: tell he really wants that he didn't. He was upset
Speaker 1: with the way that Mara talked about it because the
Speaker 1: light that it painted the NFL. And and to be clear,
Speaker 1: I just I do want to explain what the rule
Speaker 1: would be. It's weeks fourteen through seventeen, okay, um, and
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football is starting that too next year, by
Speaker 1: the way, which is a huge change and is, as
Speaker 1: Mara mentioned, is similarly h abuse to fans. Not it's
Speaker 1: not as dramatic, but that's still a pretty big difference.
Speaker 1: Like if again, if you're flying into a city and
Speaker 1: you can play more tnfs, by the way, they don't
Speaker 1: count if it's back to back t NF like so
Speaker 1: if they if you already had a TNF in week
Speaker 1: ten and they want to put you on week nine,
Speaker 1: then you could get up to like three And they
Speaker 1: absolutely do that with the Cowboys, by the way, who
Speaker 1: essentially play that TNF after Thanksgiving every year, and that
Speaker 1: kind of of of course, we want the best games
Speaker 1: possible in prime time. I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: be doing a two and a half hour pregame show
Speaker 1: for two terrible teams. But it's just like there's got
Speaker 1: to be some type of middle ground here, as always
Speaker 1: in the NFL and life follow the money. I'm sure
Speaker 1: we'll find that middle ground. I get it, but like,
Speaker 1: but that's why this is happening, right, absolutely huge deals
Speaker 1: with ESPN with Amazon might might take his Amazon must
Speaker 1: not have been happy with what was going on, and
Speaker 1: of course not they paid so much money. I mean
Speaker 1: before when it was on NFL network, the network could
Speaker 1: eat it, like put their foot down, you know, and
Speaker 1: they they're just being these games get plucked away, right,
Speaker 1: Are they second class citizens in this because they're they're
Speaker 1: paying a pretty penny as we'll still have their protected games,
Speaker 1: and so I don't know how that rule changes exactly,
Speaker 1: but it won't be like the top. I guess what
Speaker 1: I would say is like, yes, these games aren't great,
Speaker 1: we still have three sometimes four days of games at
Speaker 1: that time of year. It's still an NFL game between
Speaker 1: two NFL teams, and more people will still watch that
Speaker 1: on a streaming platform than literally any other show that
Speaker 1: is on television that week. So, like, I get it,
Speaker 1: it is about the money, But it's like in the
Speaker 1: answer to when is it enough? I guess is never.
Speaker 1: But it's like, but that's not a reason people still
Speaker 1: watching that Texans Broncos, like they're still watching it. Like
Speaker 1: just just eat it a little, just like when Mara's
Speaker 1: talking about and I like seeing an owner talk like
Speaker 1: this on behalf of the fans, Like the fans that
Speaker 1: are affected by this season take holders are the diehards
Speaker 1: or the diehards, and they're just gonna do it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna swallow it because they care that much. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should do it because you can. I don't.
Speaker 1: Speaking of John Mara, he man, he's a quote machine.
Speaker 1: This week at the owner's meetings, he was on the
Speaker 1: NFL radio on Sirius XM talking about Brian Dable and
Speaker 1: his big year and his rock star image he has
Speaker 1: now in New York after leading the Giants to the
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs, and he had this a
Speaker 1: little quotable, Jim, I knew when you were hiring Brian
Speaker 1: Dable that you knew all you needed to know to
Speaker 1: hire him. But he's so built for New York. He's
Speaker 1: so built for the personality of those fans. Like that guy.
Speaker 1: If you Carcel's had it, but this guy has it
Speaker 1: and it's they love his animated routine. Really, Oh, we
Speaker 1: kid him. I mean right now he's Bono walking around
Speaker 1: New York City. But I've told him, I said, in
Speaker 1: this business, it doesn't take long ago from Bono to Bozo. Um, Wow,
Speaker 1: that was workshop to sink on these podcast. Bosos. Yes,
Speaker 1: as Bozos ourselves, we can relate to that. Wow, Bozos
Speaker 1: to Bano. Though for you guys, m depending on your part, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. We we did some research and that clip
Speaker 1: where Yes, if you're new to the show, I think
Speaker 1: it was a sound engineer who wanted to called us
Speaker 1: bozos and we overheard it. Well. Now, now that was
Speaker 1: six years ago, in two thousand and seven. You see
Speaker 1: him frequently. You'll see him floating through the hall, and
Speaker 1: Greg claims to have had multiple conversation with him. I
Speaker 1: just had sort of a cheapish interaction. Bozo's line. He
Speaker 1: likes you know, he likes it's a good running. He
Speaker 1: likes Greg. I definitely trust you to have the temperature
Speaker 1: of what what will make someone uncomfortable or not? For sure,
Speaker 1: you said you bring up every time you talk to
Speaker 1: him now, but it's like he I think he worked
Speaker 1: on gave debut, so I was like, yeah, you did
Speaker 1: see him, and you know, and yeah, a little bozo
Speaker 1: talk way. By the way, there were on on the
Speaker 1: day Ball front. There were reports that, um, you know,
Speaker 1: the owners meetings is partially a vacation for these guys
Speaker 1: and a drinking event and a day drinking event, and
Speaker 1: that day Ball was the first NFL head coach reportedly
Speaker 1: to crack a beer at about ten thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: Respect Phoenix time. Respect, he's working off East Coast time,
Speaker 1: walking down, He's walking down the street with shades on.
Speaker 1: He's feeling himself. The athletics Jeff Howard reports that the
Speaker 1: Patriots will not trade Oh Greggy, let's give Greggy some
Speaker 1: sad violin here. Will not trade for Lamar Jackson this offseason.
Speaker 1: How said that the Patriots could test Jackson's too desire
Speaker 1: to link up with an affordable deal because the way
Speaker 1: he put it, Uh, but it is unlikely that that
Speaker 1: will be the case, and it will be mc lamore
Speaker 1: Jones rolling forward. McCord. Look, I'm riding with McCorkle. I've
Speaker 1: been higher on him. I think his census. He's just
Speaker 1: not Lamar Jackson. So that's my whole you know, I
Speaker 1: think you've wavered on mccorkyll a little bit last. No,
Speaker 1: I'm seven months. I think I think he can be
Speaker 1: a plus starter, but he's not Lamar. The only way
Speaker 1: they would ever get Lamar Jackson is if a report
Speaker 1: like this came out like four weeks before they actually
Speaker 1: got him. That's my So you're not giving up, hope,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving I can't imagine a world where the
Speaker 1: Ravens and the Patriots are agreeing on something too just
Speaker 1: in terms of their history together. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe mac Jones turns things around this year with Bill O'Brien,
Speaker 1: like they do have that former relationship from the couple
Speaker 1: weeks at Alabama where mac Jones was teaching Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: the whole system where he was gone. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be good. I think he'll be better. But you wanted
Speaker 1: to get me excited about life in the NFL as
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan in twenty twenty three, gave me Lamar Jackson. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you if you're in the AFC,
Speaker 1: it's so top heavy with quarterbacks and mac Jones probably
Speaker 1: is a bounce back candidate but the idea that like
Speaker 1: they've gone and got anything other than a middle tier
Speaker 1: tier signal caller at this point, what is the ceiling
Speaker 1: for New England? I just I find it to be
Speaker 1: an uninspiring era. I like, I like this feisty. You've
Speaker 1: been absolutely well. That was a low point rampage start
Speaker 1: with its night what. I don't know if we ever
Speaker 1: even should talk about it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a personal thing. Yeah, who didn't see it last night?
Speaker 1: Well it was. It's not personal, it's not personal. That
Speaker 1: was something on the books with Justin for a long time.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, but I don't Can we speak on it
Speaker 1: the dinner? I don't know what you're discussing, but your um,
Speaker 1: your meal, your food. Oh sure, Mark Cessler, drumroll please,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about what you're going to say. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. Maybe even a breaking news,
Speaker 1: Yeah this is It could go either way. He had
Speaker 1: dinner Mark Edward Cessler for dinner last night at our
Speaker 1: atn Summit. Had a towering double cheeseburger. What, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: play some celebration. Let's do something even none of us
Speaker 1: even noticed when he ordered it. It wasn't until the
Speaker 1: burger arrived and we're like, well, I didn't do it
Speaker 1: for effects. Um. I mean, I you know, I hadn't
Speaker 1: eating around you guys in a while, but I just
Speaker 1: was trying to change up my diet a little bit
Speaker 1: and try some new things. So I will say it
Speaker 1: might be the reason I was Music is the Night Court, Duane.
Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate. I like it, so it's in
Speaker 1: our library and I labeled it as a funky romantic jazz. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as you said, the mistake maybe some decisions that you
Speaker 1: made in nineteen ninety seven and haven't really rethought since
Speaker 1: you're willing to rethink. Yeah, it's not a day by
Speaker 1: day thing. I'm just I'm trying it out and it
Speaker 1: was remarkable and you didn't wake up at midnight wide
Speaker 1: awake and never went back to sleep. Correct. I do
Speaker 1: think there is um a link there. I would suggest
Speaker 1: there's somebody I would imagine because that wasn't just any cheeseburger. No,
Speaker 1: that had some real girth to it. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: a double. I mean I think we sort of all
Speaker 1: got the same, but it was it wasn't really a double.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of it was like
Speaker 1: it was a big patty. But it was like they
Speaker 1: call it double because they like have two different types
Speaker 1: that they smashed. As as a journalist, I must get
Speaker 1: I must ask how how'd you like it? I liked
Speaker 1: it a lot? And I think the thing the thing
Speaker 1: about food that is weird is like I haven't I
Speaker 1: haven't had that particular dish in a quarter of a century.
Speaker 1: So wait, that burger with us was the first burger
Speaker 1: no I've had. I haven't eaten hamburgers. I've had like
Speaker 1: other meat, bacon, and I've tried little things that are
Speaker 1: like I don't some things just do not appeal to me.
Speaker 1: That at the moment it did, But it was like
Speaker 1: I had just had one yesterday. It felt that familiar.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you forget your taste. Buds seem to
Speaker 1: never look at you, lose their memory. Who says a
Speaker 1: man nearing the half century mark can't reinvent himself? That's
Speaker 1: what I think. Yeah, I don't say that. I don't
Speaker 1: none of us should. I guess now I want a burger? Um? Wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was. It was such a big thing,
Speaker 1: a huge thing. I didn't even know whether we should
Speaker 1: bring it up. It felt intensely first, I think it's
Speaker 1: a I'm fine with that you did. It's not a
Speaker 1: huge deal to me. Huge announcement. Mark A Meady a carnivore.
Speaker 1: All right, wow, that was That was such a revelation
Speaker 1: and conversation. Just now we got to take a break, regroup,
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more news. All right, here
Speaker 1: we go and other news. I know it's hard to
Speaker 1: recover from that. The Falcons. The Falcons signed Class Campbell,
Speaker 1: formerly of the Ravens, to a one year deal. Atlanta
Speaker 1: has been beefing up the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: He uh, and this a team that cannot get to
Speaker 1: the quarterback and wasn't very good against the run either.
Speaker 1: Campbell's thirty seven years old. Connie, everybody loves Class Campbell.
Speaker 1: I mean there was a time where he was one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive players in the league. That's not
Speaker 1: quite the case anymore, but still obviously capable how to market.
Speaker 1: Multiple teams were interested. He chooses the Falcons a team
Speaker 1: and this surprised me because does Class Campbell have a ring? No, no, nope,
Speaker 1: Falcons probably not winning a ring this year. But ultimately
Speaker 1: he wanted to go to a place that I guess
Speaker 1: that he liked. He just went to Lena. Why, I
Speaker 1: have an answer for you. He has ninety nine career
Speaker 1: sacks and just as his personal goal, he wanted to
Speaker 1: have at least one hundred. Oh, I'm sure he's coming back.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, But like he was a cap casualty
Speaker 1: because of the Lamar Jackson situation in Baltimore, So I
Speaker 1: think that they probably thought they would be able to
Speaker 1: bring him back sign him for cheap. But I mean
Speaker 1: now he gets to get paid probably a little bit
Speaker 1: more with the Falcons, get that get to that mark
Speaker 1: for himself. He's coming off a good season for himself
Speaker 1: in his standards. And look, he had five and a
Speaker 1: half sacks last season. That would have been second on
Speaker 1: the Falcons in twenty twenty two. That would have been
Speaker 1: first in twenty twenty one. The pass rush is a
Speaker 1: perennial problem for the Falcons, so they've done a lot
Speaker 1: of additions to this defense already. They've bring in Jesse Bates,
Speaker 1: they signed David an Yumata. But it's a nice signing
Speaker 1: I think for them, and I just love Calais in general.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl I had to check because I remembered I
Speaker 1: thought I covered him on that Cardinals team that made
Speaker 1: it. It It was his rookie season, so man, he has
Speaker 1: been in the NFL a long time. I wanted to
Speaker 1: take this moment to just take a quick look at
Speaker 1: the Falcon's offseason just because here are the people they've
Speaker 1: brought in that are probably starting for them. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's a team in the NFL who will
Speaker 1: be starting as many people as they signed in free agency.
Speaker 1: Klais Campbell, David an Yamada. You mentioned those, Kaden Ellis
Speaker 1: the linebacker who had some nice times for the Saints
Speaker 1: but wasn't really a starter there, Jesse Bates. That's four
Speaker 1: starters on their defense, Mac Collins and or Scottie Miller.
Speaker 1: Maybe one of those two guys is right now at
Speaker 1: least starting at wide receiver. John who Smith is like
Speaker 1: the backup tight end, but they might start two tight ends. Man,
Speaker 1: that is a lot of That is a lot of
Speaker 1: free agency, and I think that's Terry Fonteno and Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith knowing like maybe from the outside we're not thinking
Speaker 1: this is a team that is going to win or
Speaker 1: needs to win, but I think they know that they
Speaker 1: need to maybe have a winning record. They have a
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator too. Dnp's out the door. Ryan Nielsen
Speaker 1: takes over. So there's a lot of change. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, of all the teams in free agency, they
Speaker 1: went for it, but not enough because it's like there
Speaker 1: they stand out. There is the quarterbacks. Lamar Jackson. I've
Speaker 1: been saying this would have been like suddenly you think
Speaker 1: completely different about the future of the Falcons and you're
Speaker 1: trying to fit Desmond Ritter in there as your guy,
Speaker 1: and it's a TBD. He came down. It came down
Speaker 1: to the Jets and the Falcons. He said he thought
Speaker 1: he would have a chance to have a bigger impact
Speaker 1: on and off the field. He stressed, Austin, Now you
Speaker 1: know he's as a Man of the Year. He is
Speaker 1: for the in Atlanta, widely celebrated, is one of the
Speaker 1: best dudes in the sport. And yeah he won Man
Speaker 1: of the Year. He's basically every locker room he goes into,
Speaker 1: he's the most respective guy. So good for him. I
Speaker 1: was a little surprised. I was hoping he would land
Speaker 1: with the Jets, but we'll see what he could do
Speaker 1: with the Falcons. Uh In other South Division news. On
Speaker 1: the other side, Titans general manager Ran Carthon rejects any
Speaker 1: notion that Derek Henry is on the trade market. Here's
Speaker 1: what Carthon had to say at the league meeting. There's
Speaker 1: nothing new to report. Um, it was a nice report
Speaker 1: that came out. I was moving to Todd you know,
Speaker 1: Darren trumpers and move and you know we're in a
Speaker 1: good place. So it's not that new report from there.
Speaker 1: I know Derek trains like crazy, um in the location
Speaker 1: where he trains, I know the location. I don't want
Speaker 1: to put it out here, you know, but Dar's going
Speaker 1: to come back. You know, he's going to spend and
Speaker 1: take his time away into what he has to new
Speaker 1: to make sure that he's ready to go. So I
Speaker 1: feel we're in a good place. It was this taken
Speaker 1: from like the ballroom of a steamship or something. What
Speaker 1: was where was he one of those one of those
Speaker 1: little couches in that biltmore? Were there four years a right?
Speaker 1: And thanks to Toron Davenport at T Davenport underscore NFL
Speaker 1: for capturing that. Well done. They should trade Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I think that's there's no way that's not still a
Speaker 1: possibility if it's like right around the draft and the
Speaker 1: team decides, like where we're sitting, there's a running back
Speaker 1: that we want or we don't. I just love the
Speaker 1: idea of him. I've said it all along to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: But second note, Ran Carthon looks like a go He's
Speaker 1: a well built individual, looks like something. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I had really seen Ran, I think of his father, Maurice.
Speaker 1: Was that his father? I don't know, remember him back
Speaker 1: with the Giants. It's not a typical name, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess there is a connect, he said. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was pretty strong, saying it was an erroneous report.
Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe there were some teams or there
Speaker 1: was some talk and they realized that the value wasn't
Speaker 1: kind of come back and they decided now they they'll
Speaker 1: probably keep him. And Mike Rabels said he expects Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill to be the Titans QB. He said, of course,
Speaker 1: I expect him to be the QB. But he also said,
Speaker 1: I won't commit to anybody on the entire roster being
Speaker 1: on the roster after what happened with A. J. Brown,
Speaker 1: So I guess it's and listening to offers, even if
Speaker 1: he's not actively calling off they like, so they they're
Speaker 1: compounding their mistake. You shouldn't have traded AJ Brown, and
Speaker 1: you did, and now you should trade Derek Henry and
Speaker 1: you're not going to well then your offense, so you're
Speaker 1: just blowing up the whole thing. I think it's like,
Speaker 1: and then him and running game. How can they have
Speaker 1: no market though it's got to be a contender is
Speaker 1: running back that season? Yeah, but you can make a
Speaker 1: deal and get some draft capital back, but it's like
Speaker 1: a one year rental. I think I think there maybe,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe there'd be a team that would actually pay
Speaker 1: him that money. But they're just like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to give up anything, right, Hey, I would give up
Speaker 1: a late round swap and ignore that Titans don't want
Speaker 1: to bother ignore the chance to get Derek Henry with
Speaker 1: something left in the tank and potentially a chip on
Speaker 1: the shoulder at your own peril. Is kind of where
Speaker 1: I come from, the same guy, but man last year
Speaker 1: or so. But we need some trades. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about that looking back at you know, we had those
Speaker 1: all those wide receiver trades, we had the quarterback moves
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two off season better than twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: off season. Step it up. Okay. Ran Carthon, by the way,
Speaker 1: is indeed the son of Maurice Carthon, who won two
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with the Giants in the Yes, justin, is
Speaker 1: there a GM head coach duo you would take in
Speaker 1: a fight over Vrabel and Ran Carthon? Not not at all.
Speaker 1: Maybe Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes. That's the only one
Speaker 1: that I could think. What is what is Holmes looking
Speaker 1: like these days? He's a big He's a big, bulky man.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know what Joe D could bench press.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't tell. He's a big guy, solid, solid,
Speaker 1: could handle himself. Yeah, Joe D's looking like he whipped
Speaker 1: himself into shape too. Based on the footage from the
Speaker 1: Joe looks like the bouncer, like the double deuce type guy,
Speaker 1: like he's you know, not gonna win any physique competitions,
Speaker 1: but probably is stronger than a bowl. So I think
Speaker 1: they would have a chance. The Gang Green contingent. But
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good conversation. Yeah. Send us
Speaker 1: on Twitter, people, send us other GM coach like brawl rankings.
Speaker 1: What I like Mike McDaniel comes out with one of
Speaker 1: those like member the guy with the green dust and
Speaker 1: he just spray in someone's face. He was a different
Speaker 1: way to Rick Model Martel or mister Fujie, mister Fie
Speaker 1: assault in the eye. Well, some guy with green dust
Speaker 1: and it was like the Martel had his own cologne
Speaker 1: called Arrogance that he would spray into people's mind like
Speaker 1: a smoke bomb. Would be perfect. How about Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: it would just be himself since he only hires like
Speaker 1: friends and family members. But maybe since they don't really
Speaker 1: have a GM, it gets to be Bill and Steve.
Speaker 1: I could see Steve with that mullet running into the
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey and his brother Jason have a very popular podcast.
Speaker 1: It is called The New Heights Podcast and a part
Speaker 1: of the one of the traditions, and Kyle brand on
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football does a great job every year breaking
Speaker 1: down the coach's photo that gets put out each and
Speaker 1: every year. Check that out. UM, I have it on
Speaker 1: my Twitter profile. That's one way to access it. Kyle's profile,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is amplified it as well, but UM
Speaker 1: amplified it anyway. The Kelsey brothers, Jason asked Travis to
Speaker 1: name as many coaches as he could, and it was
Speaker 1: a fun exercise. It's even better when you see the image.
Speaker 1: But it's fun just listening along as well. Here we go,
Speaker 1: let's give it. Let's give the Travis. Else's trying right now?
Speaker 1: I can, I can. I'm the worst with names, but
Speaker 1: I can tell you team. Okay, all right, starting on
Speaker 1: the left, Chargers standing up, got it, sitting down, standing up,
Speaker 1: standing up, Chargers, Giants, San Frank is that guy? Steelers?
Speaker 1: Can you pause it there a second? McDaniels looks a
Speaker 1: little different he did even a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: So that that there's a there's something there. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: He did not know Arthur Smith's not a surprise. I
Speaker 1: don't think Arthur Smith's wife might not know. Okay, go
Speaker 1: on his head. Steelers, Tampa? Is that Tampa? Detroit? Campbell?
Speaker 1: No chance you're getting this, one zero percent chance? Jet
Speaker 1: after Jets, nothing. I don't even I've never seen that man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's era I couldn't name. There's some tough shadows.
Speaker 1: It's a weird photo. Yeah, it's a bad one, but yeah,
Speaker 1: he had no chance at O'Connell which is funny to me,
Speaker 1: but ebra Flus. I think if you ask the entire country,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon might be in there too. It might come
Speaker 1: in thirty two of guys who have done a year
Speaker 1: and then the next guy concept And it's funny that
Speaker 1: um Salah I was like, oh, I thought Salo was
Speaker 1: taller than I realized. He's next to O'Connell who's eight
Speaker 1: feet tall. Right, and Campbell all right ahead? Is so good?
Speaker 1: I mean three in a row. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: Those dudes are every everybody between the Jets are off.
Speaker 1: The coordinator Shane Stik for the Coals, Come on, Travis,
Speaker 1: Jason's pretty good. Who's who's next to Doug pe Who
Speaker 1: should know that one? You should definitely know that one. Demko,
Speaker 1: who's the other one? You should know him because he's
Speaker 1: arguably your biggest rival. Oh that is yeah, that's Sincy.
Speaker 1: That's not he's a dope. No one's ever said that
Speaker 1: about Zach Taylor. That's that's coach sive or is that enough?
Speaker 1: I think that's good. Yeah, that's good. He did drop
Speaker 1: Stefanski was the guy as there's no uh, there's no
Speaker 1: chance that guy's a coach in the NFL and he's
Speaker 1: as Fansky, which why is the good one? Seems unfair
Speaker 1: to Stefanski was out of place calling Mike McCarthy, uh, Dave,
Speaker 1: Matt Foley Chris Farley's character. I guess he was on
Speaker 1: S and L recently, so he had it on his mind.
Speaker 1: Don't do Zach. He called Sean Payton QB's quarterbacks. It
Speaker 1: is a little next level And I love that because
Speaker 1: then you realize not all NFL players are big NFL
Speaker 1: fans like us. And if him not knowing Sean Payton's
Speaker 1: name is a little next level quarterbacks quarterback, I would
Speaker 1: I would love to do the column like Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: disrespects the game. Just slaughter him for two thousand words.
Speaker 1: All right, Connie, ready for some odds and ends? Yo? Sure? Cool?
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, no pressure, all right, I
Speaker 1: have to do it different too, right now, just you
Speaker 1: know whatever feels it's it's a creative choice. Do it
Speaker 1: your way, okay, ends it ends everybody. We have to
Speaker 1: stop this. I think we need to go. The room
Speaker 1: is haunted, the building is haunted. O my god, how
Speaker 1: do you how do we recover and do a football podcast?
Speaker 1: After knowing the world is ending. I just pull a
Speaker 1: knife out of my pocket. That used to be such
Speaker 1: an enduring delight. Right, something has changed, all right, here
Speaker 1: we go eight o'clock delight. Marvin Jones. He's still at
Speaker 1: it and he's back with the Detroit Lions. Good for him.
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor said, contract talks with Joe Burrow are underway.
Speaker 1: That is huge. That's an interesting subplot considering all the
Speaker 1: Lamar drama and blah blah blah. The Bengals. Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: meets with the Panthers. He's the number ten ranked prospect
Speaker 1: by our friend who's on the podcast, though he is
Speaker 1: not Raiders too, though Raiders would be an interest in
Speaker 1: Raiders a little. What do they have? Seventh pick? Seventh pick? Uh, Connie.
Speaker 1: The Kelly Green unis are back with the Eagle. It's
Speaker 1: about time. So it's not like a color rush thing?
Speaker 1: Is color rush still thing? Did they get colors? I
Speaker 1: think that's been but it's an alternate uniform. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna wear take on that one. I don't have
Speaker 1: a take. I just think that um. I always hear
Speaker 1: like the best uniforms of all time are the Eagles
Speaker 1: Kelly Green uniforms and it's like, yeah, that's correct. I
Speaker 1: just simply totally disagree. I'm not saying that I think
Speaker 1: they're still fine, but like that's an over celebration. In
Speaker 1: my book of play cop, what's some of your top
Speaker 1: what better? Tell me what's better? New York Giants? Everything?
Speaker 1: It's better than the Eagles. Wow, that is the New
Speaker 1: York Giants have ever done. I'm so offended by it.
Speaker 1: I mean, not their team last year, the classic Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns better than anything that he's back to meet and
Speaker 1: he's back to the brown No, I'm just I think
Speaker 1: those are classic uniforms that have not the like Kelly
Speaker 1: Green or Fine. It's just I think that we're acting
Speaker 1: like now the world's problems have been solved because they're
Speaker 1: going to showcase them for a game. We'll see and
Speaker 1: maybe while we're here. The Eagles chan is a rip
Speaker 1: off of the Jets chan. So that's cool too. I mean, what, what,
Speaker 1: why is everyone coming for me today? What is this
Speaker 1: speaking of the Jets, the Sacramento to the dinner like
Speaker 1: we're hitting out ghost us. The Sacramento Kings clinched a
Speaker 1: playoff spot, which means the New York Jets now have
Speaker 1: the longest playoff drought of the four major US sports,
Speaker 1: and that's compounded by the fact that they also haven't
Speaker 1: been to a Super Bowl in fifty four. That is
Speaker 1: all going to end this season, though, did your chant
Speaker 1: in Part one? Shot up one of the reasons, one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why Aaron Rodgers going to a team
Speaker 1: with a very good defense is interesting in a big
Speaker 1: subplot this year that is brutal. And the crazy thing
Speaker 1: is the ten years before this twelve year drought, they
Speaker 1: were kind of in the playoffs semi regularly, and they
Speaker 1: made it to two title games, and then it got
Speaker 1: very dark, very quick. It's a little more embarrassing for
Speaker 1: an NBA team, like every NBA team and NHL team
Speaker 1: makes the playoffs a little harder in the NFL. Who's
Speaker 1: rights behind the Jets? Now for the end the NFL,
Speaker 1: the Lions have to be well, they've been in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: but like they're nine in a while, they might be
Speaker 1: number two now, but they had even that thousand and
Speaker 1: fourteen maybe well that was two thousand fIF when the
Speaker 1: Dos caught against the Broncos since they were on the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Really yeah, wow, And the lines are one
Speaker 1: behind them. I mean it's not like hard to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the NFL either. Now you're right now
Speaker 1: it's fourteen. So it's fourteen out of thirty two and
Speaker 1: come out of sixteen thirty will say it's like it
Speaker 1: was Cleveland in the Jets for a long time because
Speaker 1: that Brown Steelers game altered the scenery. Yeah, Broncos posts
Speaker 1: uper Bowl has been like a sneaky bottom five franchise's
Speaker 1: been rock sitting and you look at everything that's happened
Speaker 1: being rough. All right, let's take a break and then
Speaker 1: get to the gray beards always like Seacrest out we
Speaker 1: got m h. Great bits. We're gonna save the day.
Speaker 1: Great bits, just give us one last say we're here today,
Speaker 1: gone tomorrow. Will you watch your follow It don't mean
Speaker 1: I cannot play. You will see me leave the way.
Speaker 1: Gray bits never go away, Gray bits never fed away.
Speaker 1: There goes my hero. What your mass? He goes, there
Speaker 1: goes my hero. It's over, thirdday, Well done, well done,
Speaker 1: goose bumps. Wow that was the range right there. We
Speaker 1: now we have a full band. How you were unhappy
Speaker 1: with the performance a year ago? Repair I was not here,
Speaker 1: but like I messed up the role. Um, I was
Speaker 1: not given clear instruction. I was a backup singer last year,
Speaker 1: you were, you were assigned to some backing box. I
Speaker 1: think we, even in real time, started over. We did,
Speaker 1: and I was very nervous about the second time because
Speaker 1: I still was unclear on the second go round right
Speaker 1: and get it. I think this time what we did
Speaker 1: was important. We did a run through before the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will say the run through was not duplicative of
Speaker 1: what happened when we actually didn't run through a little
Speaker 1: bit tighter I thought than the actual performance here. But
Speaker 1: by no means was it a failure. It was good.
Speaker 1: I think we all felt it in our souls. It's
Speaker 1: not about you about like um, you know, hitting the
Speaker 1: perfect feeling the music and Greg and I spoke privately
Speaker 1: with Greg Bovis. I said, Greg, the final line is
Speaker 1: the cathartic payoff of the whole song, and you creatively
Speaker 1: take that, but it's got to come from your heart.
Speaker 1: And justin point of ox, I asked it. I asked
Speaker 1: for some lyrical help. I forgot what the lyrics were
Speaker 1: and justin what did you point out to me earlier
Speaker 1: this morning? Well, when you sent me the lyrics this morning,
Speaker 1: you had all the gray beards. You were referring to
Speaker 1: them in the third person, like they never go away,
Speaker 1: they will the lyrics I had remembered that miss, but
Speaker 1: the actual lyrics are more first person, as if from
Speaker 1: the point of view of the gray beards, like give
Speaker 1: us one right, which I think is really as we age, right,
Speaker 1: there's a shift. Do you feel more connected to these players?
Speaker 1: And I certainly do. I find some conflict with um
Speaker 1: where you're going here? You said there is an early
Speaker 1: line we're here today, gone tomorrow, which is you know,
Speaker 1: that speaks to all of us and the human condition.
Speaker 1: But then it flips around said, the gray beards never
Speaker 1: go away. They never fade away. They're the return, they
Speaker 1: don't go away. I think that's the duality of man there,
Speaker 1: you know, all right? And then you were aspirational. You
Speaker 1: also capitalized him, right, which is essentially Jesus. All right.
Speaker 1: That's just a religious component to this as well. The
Speaker 1: original Graveyard Jesus was thirty three, so like he was
Speaker 1: a roster by the end and probably unstoppable theology podcast
Speaker 1: Tugbo Sorry God, all right, So what is what is
Speaker 1: what is this? What is this what are the grave
Speaker 1: It's really about that song. But then there's a segment
Speaker 1: we have to do. So this is This is the
Speaker 1: tenth year I've done this on NFL dot Com. I've
Speaker 1: written the Graveyard's column, which is my You'll see it
Speaker 1: everywhere and it comes out and on other lesser platforms
Speaker 1: across the web. Um, oh, you're the best remaining free agents?
Speaker 1: And all right, anybody could do that, but I I
Speaker 1: like to kind of just dig a little deeper. Who
Speaker 1: are the best remaining free agents who are age thirty
Speaker 1: or over? And these are the players that the league
Speaker 1: kind of forgets and are ready to phase out. Hence
Speaker 1: the lyrical and feel of that song, like don't forget
Speaker 1: about us, Like we are not fading away, give us
Speaker 1: one more chance. So that's what this is about. And
Speaker 1: there are every year, with the unstoppable march of time,
Speaker 1: always new names to add. And I'll start with the
Speaker 1: quarterback position because we have a couple of new names,
Speaker 1: starting with none other than a man that has been
Speaker 1: waiting to become a graybeard for a long time, really
Speaker 1: feels like for about five years now, and now he
Speaker 1: is Carson Wentz. Here's the quarterback room. Okay, and we
Speaker 1: could talk about where these guys fit in the order
Speaker 1: they should be in. But my three quarterbacks in this room,
Speaker 1: he got three. Yeah, I'll probably have a cut I'll
Speaker 1: probably have a cut down day in summer. But Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater from the Graybeards, that's when you know it's time
Speaker 1: to hang up. I got a Teddy Bridgewater and Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz in a open camp competition, both thirty years old,
Speaker 1: both first year eligible to Graybeards. And then I got
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco in the room. Just got Joe in the
Speaker 1: room because Joe doesn't want to stop playing and I
Speaker 1: respect that, and he literally has a grizzled beard at
Speaker 1: this point, so he's in there. But it's Wentz v. Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: and I know where this room is going to come
Speaker 1: down and say Teddy all the way, And I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily disagree with that either, But Teddy, there's a reason
Speaker 1: Teddy's still in the market right now. When he has
Speaker 1: gotten opportunities in recent years, he hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: stay on the field, and I wonder if he's just
Speaker 1: breaking down. Wentz has just been mostly ineffective. I could
Speaker 1: use both in this offense if you wanted to I
Speaker 1: think you've got we're not going to do that plan?
Speaker 1: All right? But then i'd go Teddy, But have you
Speaker 1: did you give any consideration to Cam Newton? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: not just flat out no. I think this is one
Speaker 1: of the better quarterback rooms the gray Bards had. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could argue this quarterback room is better than a
Speaker 1: couple of NFL quarterback rooms. Wow, the Falcon I would
Speaker 1: take him over. That's my favorite job. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Texans they will add. Just just wait till Cam finds
Speaker 1: out he's not on the gray Beard. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be pleased with this. Teddy and Carson there. They
Speaker 1: both have trouble staying healthy. So when one guy goes down,
Speaker 1: you'll have another guy ready to go. Can I say
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I want to also say that
Speaker 1: I don't think Cam is Graybeards eligible. If you out
Speaker 1: of the league for a full year, um, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I could put you on. I think you're
Speaker 1: kind of out of the football until otherwise we're told
Speaker 1: that you're I think Teddy. Teddy fits in whence I
Speaker 1: think good question is like does he want to be
Speaker 1: a backup? Does he want to be a backup on
Speaker 1: the Gray Beards. I mean, who knows he's gonna get
Speaker 1: an opportunity though, doesn't this one? For some reason, these
Speaker 1: two guys really hit me with the passage of time,
Speaker 1: like that they are now eligible for the Gray Beards
Speaker 1: because we were doing our show when Teddy Bridgewater suffered
Speaker 1: that injury. That's a very memorable NFL moment. Were doing
Speaker 1: our show during Carson Wentz's rise, of course, and like,
Speaker 1: I remember what a huge Wentz guy West was during
Speaker 1: that run and everything, and and now he's on the
Speaker 1: grade season when he scrambled for that touchdown, even the
Speaker 1: season before though, he was like I could still see
Speaker 1: the replay of that. And then I remember even after
Speaker 1: he came back and he was kind of with an
Speaker 1: Eagles team that was very mediocre. I remember I liked
Speaker 1: the way he played like he was kind of being
Speaker 1: let down by those wide receivers all the time, and
Speaker 1: he just put his body on the line. And then
Speaker 1: I wonder if a lot of that also took a
Speaker 1: toll on him. But here he is, now thirty years old,
Speaker 1: Nichole's winning the Super Bowl and then having like a
Speaker 1: statue good room. There's there's another quarterback room for now,
Speaker 1: they're better than the Colts. Guy would take them over
Speaker 1: last year's. Last year's tandem, by the way, was Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and Gino Smith. Oh that room was better. Talk
Speaker 1: about Gino going from graybeards back up to how much?
Speaker 1: How many guaranteed dollars did he get? And Seahawks seed?
Speaker 1: But yeah, twenty five a year. Matt Ryan, by the way,
Speaker 1: is available, and I don't know if he wants. We
Speaker 1: considered Matt, but it's just that's not the direction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like we watched fourteen too many Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: games a year ago. Um, the running back room, it's tough. Um,
Speaker 1: it's tough. So I like Jak McKinnon a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy had ten touchdowns last year in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I think he's a good guy to have. And he
Speaker 1: was the lead back for most of their season, I mean,
Speaker 1: or the season went along and then he kind of
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pachenko kind of rose up. And but McKinnon's a
Speaker 1: nice guy in there. Um, your friend Mark mark Ingram Uh,
Speaker 1: he's up there in age two. Um, so I have
Speaker 1: him on the roster, but I'd like to upgrade if
Speaker 1: I could. It's an excellent locker room guy. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of malcontents on this roster, There's no
Speaker 1: no way around it. Yes, Rex Burke had I put
Speaker 1: on here. That was awesome for you. Mark. I know
Speaker 1: you like your white running backs, not a guy. You're
Speaker 1: a white running back guy though, according to you. Wow
Speaker 1: the star of my high school football team, Rex Burkett.
Speaker 1: There you go. And then, um, I actually have to
Speaker 1: eliminate this guy because if I'm going to eliminate Cam
Speaker 1: for the same reason I had David Johnson comeback season
Speaker 1: with the Saints briefly, Okay, so David Johnson's comeback season
Speaker 1: kind of I thought you might have Latavius Murray list.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned it. Okay, so this isn't fit.
Speaker 1: This is going up on NFL dot com next week,
Speaker 1: so right now, so give me some tapping with your
Speaker 1: your fingernails. Are we getting any bright? Because I want
Speaker 1: to I want to be a pro personnel director at
Speaker 1: some point for the Graybeards, maybe an intern. And I write,
Speaker 1: you're a singer for the I was um dogging that tape,
Speaker 1: raw dogging it and uh, we don't know. Nope, you
Speaker 1: just look at the tape. So it was pretty good
Speaker 1: in the National Football League last year at playing football
Speaker 1: and running was all right. He looked pretty, he looked
Speaker 1: almost Uh he was frisky last year. All right. I
Speaker 1: met a Latavius McKinnon tandem there. I like that, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, I was sad as I led to look
Speaker 1: up Zeke's age and he's like, he's not this okay,
Speaker 1: and just um because this is always fun. Last year's
Speaker 1: running back room Jerk McKinnon great signing. Yeah, had ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So the Chiefs that won a Super Bowl. And uh
Speaker 1: David Johnson, who I was thrilled when he was on
Speaker 1: the graveyards because that was the first year eligible. And
Speaker 1: then it just he just ran out of juice. I
Speaker 1: guess another passage of time moment. What he at one
Speaker 1: point in the NFL got a guaranteed contract, I believe
Speaker 1: with like forty million dollars guaranteed or something insane that happened.
Speaker 1: I remember the running backs coach on All or Nothing
Speaker 1: pulling him into like a training room after his rookie
Speaker 1: season and saying, like, you have the ability to be
Speaker 1: one of the best running backs that has ever played
Speaker 1: in another West favorite I know he was banged up,
Speaker 1: But did he ever suffer like any catastrophic injury or
Speaker 1: was just like another example he was, Yes, he did,
Speaker 1: he did. He never really was the same after it.
Speaker 1: Well was it a Nate m I think summer tough position,
Speaker 1: tough position, wide receiver? All right, for the second straight year,
Speaker 1: we got O'Dell there. It's kind of where he's at
Speaker 1: at this point in his career. And by the way,
Speaker 1: there are reports out there that multiple teams have offers
Speaker 1: out to O'Dell though, and he's he was initially looking
Speaker 1: for twenty million. Now the idea is that it might
Speaker 1: be closer in the range to fifteen million, which is
Speaker 1: still a lot. What what is going on with it?
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I mean, I believe it'll be
Speaker 1: an up to but I believe it'll be significantly less
Speaker 1: than fifteen with some incentive. I mean, he came out
Speaker 1: on Twitter and totally denied that, but behind the scenes
Speaker 1: it's probably maybe that was his start nine and six
Speaker 1: million in incent of something like that. Does he count
Speaker 1: if he wasn't in the league get all last year
Speaker 1: technically with your rules out, well, he was injured, it's different.
Speaker 1: It wasn't out of football. It was injured, right, but good,
Speaker 1: that's good. He actually did spend last year on the
Speaker 1: great Beards, good dynamics. I like that. That's important. For
Speaker 1: the second straight year. Oh, another first time entry age
Speaker 1: thirty season, Jarvis Landry. So we can get O'Dell and
Speaker 1: Jarvis season. Um, it's the beginning of the end of
Speaker 1: this Browns are for the second straight year. We have
Speaker 1: Julio Jones here, kind of a legacy pick. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much juice he has. Can't stay healthy, but
Speaker 1: he's a great beard, uh for me right now? Um?
Speaker 1: And now we have some other options here. Um. Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb is another option in the slot, but I think
Speaker 1: he's duplicative with Jarvis. That your guy Aaron Rodgers, Right,
Speaker 1: that's true. No more drama. T Y Hilton, Oh interesting
Speaker 1: made a couple of plays when the couple of boys
Speaker 1: signed it him. I mean, wasn't he was better than
Speaker 1: some mother huge play like right after he had yeah, third,
Speaker 1: fourth and thirty one was yeah, not a terrible wide
Speaker 1: out election. How about Robbie chosen Anderson he changed his
Speaker 1: name a locker room headcase. We're not gonna have rob
Speaker 1: but he's at age thirty. He's the first year And
Speaker 1: give me a little timpany drum here, because I've been
Speaker 1: waiting for this. We've all been waiting for this for
Speaker 1: what feels like fifteen years. For the first time age
Speaker 1: thirty season. You're not gonna believe this. I think I
Speaker 1: know it is. Go ahead, Sammy Watkins. Sammy Watkins is
Speaker 1: finally thirty. What Sammy Watkins who was twenty seven for
Speaker 1: eight straight years is now thirty three? Time making to
Speaker 1: leave candidate. That's shocking. Like a playoff legend that is
Speaker 1: actually literally a clutch player. Usually people get more respect
Speaker 1: when you have the kind of clutch moments he had
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. A lot of big munch Juju Smith
Speaker 1: Schuster is now brown. Is the guy wide receiver that
Speaker 1: is twenty seven forever or twenty five forever. Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: came into the league at nine years old. I like
Speaker 1: that group. I'm gonna say it, like, if everyone stays healthy,
Speaker 1: that's better than a few rooms in the NFL. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's better than the Titans receiver in group right now. Well,
Speaker 1: these guys are literally all avail. Yeah, well, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get every single one. I mean Julio Julio, it feels
Speaker 1: like he might be at the end of the line here.
Speaker 1: Kenny Galladay is available, by the way, I don't think
Speaker 1: you want him, but just wanted them. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: four or five primetime games with Odell and this crowd. Actually,
Speaker 1: now I'm looking at last year because Jarvis turned thirty
Speaker 1: last November, so he was eligible. So last year we
Speaker 1: had Odell, Antonio Brown, Jarvis Landry, and Julio Jones Brown
Speaker 1: sod over very similar positional group Antonio Brown that year.
Speaker 1: You know, at that point it was like, is he
Speaker 1: still on the picture? And then I think he like
Speaker 1: stripped nude in a swimming pool around families, and then
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, okay, against the code of
Speaker 1: policy for Graybeard. He's kind of at a level that
Speaker 1: there's no coming back nude in the public swimming pool.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think you owe me a sandwich
Speaker 1: that talked about that he would not be back in
Speaker 1: We'll have to check out, Go get my lunch dot org.
Speaker 1: All right, moving on tight end, this is a tough
Speaker 1: room to room. I got Cameron Brait, who I believe
Speaker 1: is looking to retire. Okay, okay, it seems like a liability. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have Eric Tomlinson in his age thirty campaign. Okay,
Speaker 1: and pinch yourself. I have um forty year old Marcedes Lewis.
Speaker 1: This is to me, he's a graybeard. He is height.
Speaker 1: The Jets are putting the final touches on a one
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars deal for him, but if that falls through,
Speaker 1: I think you're struggling in here to find any playmakers.
Speaker 1: So why not have a guy who's the sixth tight end.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're putting him on the front of
Speaker 1: the the pamphlet or whatever. It's the press guy. It's
Speaker 1: like it would like it's now the team pamphleteer would
Speaker 1: like like this, we have this pamphlet of Jewish sports heroes.
Speaker 1: But I feel like he embodies what you want. He's
Speaker 1: like the Calais Campbell signer for the Falcon. It's kind
Speaker 1: of amazing that he was drafted at the same time
Speaker 1: as MJD. And we've been working with MJD. I don't know,
Speaker 1: and the MGD was a better draft pick. That was
Speaker 1: the the sneaky part. He was a much better player
Speaker 1: than Marcedes Lewis. During their bag Wars I feel like
Speaker 1: if you watch Sunday Night Football with MJD as we
Speaker 1: did this best season. Marcedes Lewis comes up every night
Speaker 1: capacity as one of the great players of azra H.
Speaker 1: Mikole Pruitt also in the mix there. That's that's a
Speaker 1: tough room. It's a tough room. Kyle Rudolph was Tyler Crawford.
Speaker 1: I like, last time Kyle Rudolph made a play, were
Speaker 1: you in a while Brady did not get him going.
Speaker 1: I would maybe go Lewis and Croft, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I like the offensive line. And by the way, some
Speaker 1: of this research was done last night after two tequila's um,
Speaker 1: so there could be some guys that are going to
Speaker 1: con claim now it's got a coffee that because you
Speaker 1: were going to work. Well, it's not too for a week. Also,
Speaker 1: the Organs continue to work shop it and put Daddy's
Speaker 1: going away next week, so Daddy's gotta write tomorrow, jog
Speaker 1: through it. This is the best offensive line. I think
Speaker 1: the great Beards have everything. It's very good. So I
Speaker 1: have Donovan Smith on the left side, I got Roger
Speaker 1: Saffold at left guard. I got Ben Jones at center.
Speaker 1: I got Greg Van routing a routing at right guard.
Speaker 1: I got Taylor Luan. I'm kicking him to write tackle
Speaker 1: and then it's swing tackle to give me some coverage
Speaker 1: because we got some injury concerns. Got Cam Fleming. Hum,
Speaker 1: there's Eric Fisher out there. Last year he was on
Speaker 1: the team. It didn't work out. So Isaiah Wynn, former
Speaker 1: first round pick of the Fan, was a consideration as well.
Speaker 1: About Jason Peters has the veteran in a many years,
Speaker 1: he was a gray beard, but we've moved forward to
Speaker 1: Jason Wow. Although he's like he is a great gray
Speaker 1: beard because they keep rolling him out there like halfway
Speaker 1: through the season. It's just like, oh, yeah, he's fine.
Speaker 1: I just got bored of putting Jason Peters on this list,
Speaker 1: so I get it. We're just moving. I take it
Speaker 1: back now that I realized I had three players that
Speaker 1: were like twenty seven on my original list. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of Titans on this line. Right. Three is that?
Speaker 1: By my count? Gabe Jackson I believe is thirty. Um,
Speaker 1: he's played a lot of football, was making a lot
Speaker 1: of money for the Seahawks. I think I think he
Speaker 1: could put him in there over Van Roten. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do that strong about him. Dennis Kelly is a
Speaker 1: solid swing tackle guy who was also a former Titan.
Speaker 1: He's out there just use last year's Titans line. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to please resigned the worst offensive line in the league.
Speaker 1: Luano gives you like the podcast pop and yeah, but no,
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. And he hasn't retired
Speaker 1: or anything. So he's up in the air. He's with us.
Speaker 1: He's feeling good. He's feeling good. He's got some juice
Speaker 1: back in that knee, as he said, a wall kind
Speaker 1: of juice, but it's in the knee defense edge rusher.
Speaker 1: Welcome Jadeveon Clowney. I'm sure I'm going to enjoy having
Speaker 1: you around. H We also have Leonard Floyd. We got
Speaker 1: some good this is we. We've had Evan Silvall in
Speaker 1: the past. I gave Evan a blow this year because sorry,
Speaker 1: I feel like, go ahead hit it again. That sounds
Speaker 1: kind of like a porn because you know, Evan I
Speaker 1: is this very serious football man and I just was
Speaker 1: giving him. It's given him a break in twenty three,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna bring him back in twenty four if
Speaker 1: he wants to join us. Um but I he has
Speaker 1: pointed out last year. He's like, oh yeah, you just
Speaker 1: get these like rotational veteran pass rushes and you could
Speaker 1: do make some damage here. So I got Clowney, Leonard Floyd,
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram, the third, Frank Clark, Bud Dupree. That's a
Speaker 1: that's a solid group. Group great might be overstated. Did
Speaker 1: you mention mel Ingram? Yep, justin Houston. Yeah, he was cut.
Speaker 1: He didn't make it. Wow, Marcus Golden, unless you think
Speaker 1: he should be ahead of dun had some moments, least
Speaker 1: I would. He he has been excellent for the Ravens
Speaker 1: and then no one signs him until about August. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna make the Hall of Fame, but he's like
Speaker 1: the Hall of very Good and yet no, he just
Speaker 1: he's like the new and Dominican Sue. He signs for
Speaker 1: like four million dollars every August and ends up playing. Really,
Speaker 1: if you added Carlos Dunlop, you could have literally every
Speaker 1: player that I went to Italy and Germany went with
Speaker 1: on this roster. Let me make that adjustment right now.
Speaker 1: But Dunlop actually continues to be a good player. No,
Speaker 1: he doesn't make it, but that's cool um interior line.
Speaker 1: Here we go matt Ionidas Shelby, Harris Mark wood A
Speaker 1: se A, Keem Hicks and yes and Dominican Sue always
Speaker 1: available this time of year for the Graybeards. I felt
Speaker 1: like maybe that was Sue's last time around last year.
Speaker 1: Just felt like it was demisioned gen Richards. How old
Speaker 1: is Ashan Robinson? I think he may quality? Oh he
Speaker 1: does not. He was a guy that I know, our
Speaker 1: friend Jordan Rique thought he was going to get eight
Speaker 1: to ten million dollars and clearly didn't. It is still
Speaker 1: a free agent, but it's a good ball player. But
Speaker 1: he's not old enough. In my bad linebacker is a
Speaker 1: little bit tricky. Um got Denzel Perryman, Marcus he's now signed.
Speaker 1: Oh he's out? Okay, thank you checks and balances, Marcus Golden,
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr, Kyle van Noy, John Bostick. You're this is
Speaker 1: where the team weirdly starts to fall apart. Good line play,
Speaker 1: but bad uh linebackers. Anthony Anthony Barr feels like a
Speaker 1: like a great beard. All right after that? I have
Speaker 1: a good secondary? Is there another inside linebacker to add
Speaker 1: to this? I couldn't believe that Kwon Alexander is a
Speaker 1: sneaky Sammy Watkins All Star. He's twenty nine years old.
Speaker 1: If it's before February thirteenth or so, we're desperation. In
Speaker 1: your voice, we need a little inside help here. When
Speaker 1: when he said that, um, I was telling a J.
Speaker 1: Klein is a guy who's played football. He will be
Speaker 1: twenty nine at the end of the season. Quan ar trouble. Okay, cornerback.
Speaker 1: We always have trouble at cornerback. Obviously, speed is an
Speaker 1: issue against faster teams. Uh, Marcus Peters, Marcus Peters. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me just check the twenty twenty two team, by
Speaker 1: the way, tight end. Last year, I had Gronk who
Speaker 1: never actually signed with the team, and Jared Cook. M
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good room. Where Jared Cook
Speaker 1: now was he he's a free agent again in my
Speaker 1: mind for some reason, he's just always a saint forever.
Speaker 1: And so wait, you had the services of Gronk in
Speaker 1: this theoretical Yeah, he plays beards. You don't want him
Speaker 1: to sign this year. He's not in the mix. He's
Speaker 1: been out of the league for a year now. You
Speaker 1: put Gronk's a good guy to put on the cover.
Speaker 1: I guess you're putting O, b J and uh and
Speaker 1: on the cover of the of the Pain. It's just
Speaker 1: a giant face shot of Carson Wentz like they do
Speaker 1: the Love where he looks sweaty with the eyeball back on.
Speaker 1: We all know, yeah, something really go ahead and start
Speaker 1: to take command. We want to recreate that energy that
Speaker 1: the commanders you have to do. I feel like you
Speaker 1: should do more of like uh, I know they traditionally
Speaker 1: play in San Diego, but maybe they could do a
Speaker 1: year in Baton Rouge and you just do like a
Speaker 1: fourth sort of LSU theme with ob J and Jarvis
Speaker 1: Landry and just get the locals to come out. I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like we just did that high school. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. It's kind of like the USFL. It's like
Speaker 1: they just pick a different place, it seems like, and
Speaker 1: they just stay there. All right. Just Brandon, you're a singer, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just stay in earline singer. All right. My tackles
Speaker 1: last year, by the way, I Dwayne Brown on the
Speaker 1: left side, um, and then Quentin Spahn Spain yea Spain. Uh,
Speaker 1: Matt Paradise, where's not playing for Daryl Williams and Eric Fisher.
Speaker 1: That was last year. UM. Last year on the edge,
Speaker 1: I had Melvin Ingram, Justin Houston, Jerry Hughes and Jpp.
Speaker 1: That group was better than some groups in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That was a good group. UM last year I had
Speaker 1: on the interior a Chem Hicks, Claias Campbell, Lynvaal, Joseph
Speaker 1: and Sue She's always there. The Eagles were like looking
Speaker 1: for help in the middle of the season. In the
Speaker 1: front office was like, forget the analytics, let's look at
Speaker 1: the great exactly signed two of these guys. Linebacker, I
Speaker 1: had A j Johnson, Danta Higtower who recently retired, and
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr. And now we'll move to this year's cornerback group.
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters, Bryce Callahan. Where's Logan Ryan Att He's a safety,
Speaker 1: but I think he could definitely be in that groups.
Speaker 1: Kick him out of there. Byron Jones, William Jackson. I
Speaker 1: think Byron Jones like said he can barely yeah, walk,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. Hill. I mean he I was hoping.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. Don't say walk yeah, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: make light, but it seemed like banging his career might
Speaker 1: be over unfortunate. I'm gonna put it in a nice
Speaker 1: gonna put three question marks next to Byron Jones. Maybe
Speaker 1: can't walk, okay, Um, we might have to replace him.
Speaker 1: Safety Adrian Amos, Oh yeah, Rodney McLoyd, Cloud Cloud, Dron
Speaker 1: Harmon and Logan Ryan. That's a good group. And Logan Ryan. Um,
Speaker 1: you know family famously was going to that dog shelter
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady everywhere. That could be a little bit
Speaker 1: of Instagram pop for you guys. Good for the community outreach.
Speaker 1: I like the cornerback group. Actually, I'm gonna propose Peters,
Speaker 1: William Jackson and Anthony Brown and Callahan. That's a four
Speaker 1: pack right there, if you need four. That's not bad
Speaker 1: coming off an injury Anthony Brown, but it was a
Speaker 1: good player. I'm trying to see if Jamal Adams will
Speaker 1: be safety eligible for me next year. No, but he's
Speaker 1: turning twenty eight. Got some time, all right? Hey, kickers,
Speaker 1: kicker and punter. I got two forty year olds. You
Speaker 1: have a great kicker Robbie gould Boom and punter Andy
Speaker 1: Lee two forty year olds, will you? I mean, so,
Speaker 1: how does that work with the Kickers club? Is there
Speaker 1: like a Legacy wing. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, there's
Speaker 1: tapioca served and you know, the bedtimes very early. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't get like, uh in the Graybeard's wing of
Speaker 1: the club. It's it's what Mark hates most in the
Speaker 1: world world grown men drinking milk as opposed to you
Speaker 1: enjoy that, No, but for seven who knows anymore? I
Speaker 1: was having expecting Mark to order a big pint of milk.
Speaker 1: The milk yesterday at dinner with the burger that does
Speaker 1: not appeal for some reason. We spend five minutes last
Speaker 1: night and Mark's hate of a grown adults that drink milk. No,
Speaker 1: just grown men for women. Yeah, I'm not really, It's
Speaker 1: not something I think about a lot. But like the
Speaker 1: idea of like dad's drinking full glasses of milk is
Speaker 1: weird to me. Was like just a large segment of
Speaker 1: the population. I feel like he's he's hitting out at
Speaker 1: a very I mean, I have witnessed examples and it
Speaker 1: just through me in the wrong direction. Um, head coach,
Speaker 1: al right, head coaches and staff have to be fifty
Speaker 1: and over for the second straight year. Mike Zimmer is
Speaker 1: my head coach. Oh okay, why who do you guys
Speaker 1: want I'm open to suggestion. I want of a son
Speaker 1: of a bum. I want Wade Phillips, who's killing coach.
Speaker 1: He's killing it in the XFL. He puts the gray
Speaker 1: in Graybeard. I don't know if his hair is actually gray.
Speaker 1: But how old is Wade Phillips right now? And at
Speaker 1: no point has he ever not coached well? The last
Speaker 1: time he was in the NFL he was doing well.
Speaker 1: Seventy five. He's seventy five. I think this is a
Speaker 1: good team to bring, like Jerry Glanville back into with
Speaker 1: the public amerry yet with us. Spoke to him a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and him could not have been
Speaker 1: more of a live wire. So I just think, like
Speaker 1: this team, you wanted to spice him up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Mike Zimmer's that guy. Zimmer is
Speaker 1: a little bit like of a disciplinarian. I feel like
Speaker 1: these guys, Yeah, it might not vibe. Wade feels like
Speaker 1: good vibes. I feel like Mike Zimmer deserves he see,
Speaker 1: but he'll so fits the profile of what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1: Just a mean old man. Okay, Wade's a nice guy.
Speaker 1: I could make him the DC. I mean at least
Speaker 1: the DC, but I mean, all right, so the OC,
Speaker 1: I have Greg roman Um fifty years old, so he's
Speaker 1: he's eligible for the first time, but he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a job. I didn't defensive coordinator. I have Rex Ryan actually,
Speaker 1: who expressed interest in joining the Broncos staff. So he's
Speaker 1: his heart I think is in it, and he's got
Speaker 1: to be probably in the sixties now right around there. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the special teams coach. We're actually keeping the
Speaker 1: chair empty until Mike west Off comes back from Denver,
Speaker 1: so that's out of it's gonna do it. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Just whatever Westuff would have done is kind of their
Speaker 1: guiding principle, like we're gonna have a giant Mike west
Speaker 1: Off signed in the practice bubble. It just says, do
Speaker 1: your job with a mean old Mike west your kicker
Speaker 1: and punter a combined eighty years old. So they seem
Speaker 1: to they'll have some internal knowledge. Uh. I'm looking up,
Speaker 1: wait is four and two right now as the head
Speaker 1: coach of the Roughnecks six seven percent. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: trying because I wanted a defensive numbers um the XFLS
Speaker 1: you know stats page first time I've been here. Admittedly, Uh,
Speaker 1: they could go a little more. They've got like fur,
Speaker 1: They've got like four stats, not including like points allowed
Speaker 1: or anything. The mail bad question we didn't get to
Speaker 1: it last week, was like why are you guys not
Speaker 1: talking about the other leagues? Are you not allowed? It's like, like,
Speaker 1: you mean the XFL and the other thing. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not personal or anything. It just it does not
Speaker 1: interest me. It's too much at all. I spring football
Speaker 1: as a concept has nothing to do with me working
Speaker 1: for NFL. It just does not interest me. That's when
Speaker 1: I watch the NBA and I watch baseball and we
Speaker 1: talk NFL news. I don't need more leagues. I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree to any higher percentage with what you just say.
Speaker 1: And I might have felt differently maybe at different points
Speaker 1: in my life or we didn't have this job, or
Speaker 1: when you wanted there to be two football games a
Speaker 1: day every day of the year. Yeah, or like in
Speaker 1: another yeah, in another timeline where I've got hot dog
Speaker 1: fingers or something. But like we're I feel like we're
Speaker 1: still watching football, we're preparing for the drafting, the like,
Speaker 1: we're still doing some NFL watching in the off season.
Speaker 1: That's there's only so much bandwidth here. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: I got the Miami say that against tonight, you know,
Speaker 1: but jes let's go um and remember our team model
Speaker 1: remains unchanged just when sometimes baby, what do we think?
Speaker 1: How many wins this year? Five? I'll take I'll take
Speaker 1: five and twelve. That's progress from from a year ago.
Speaker 1: I think they say it for four and thirteen. Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: what's what's killing us? Ultimately, I'm gonna take the defense.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take what west traditional role is,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say one in sixteen. Yes, every year
Speaker 1: he would like talk it up that like, well, you
Speaker 1: know you're looking better this year and then you go
Speaker 1: one and sixty. Yeah, real future they have. I can't
Speaker 1: wait until the first one in sixteen. T even the
Speaker 1: NFL that that's almost more embarrassing than oh, in seventeen,
Speaker 1: you couldn't even do that, right, No, Yeah, but last
Speaker 1: year I thought my team was going to go ten
Speaker 1: and seven. I honestly think if I'm now going through
Speaker 1: it again, this is a five and twelve unit. Okay,
Speaker 1: dun you announced that publicly on the in your article. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how I'll end it. Tough for the pamphletier to
Speaker 1: go into the season with someone else that can write this.
Speaker 1: Do we have someone else? I could listen to this
Speaker 1: past for them? Good stuff anyway. Yes, the other thing
Speaker 1: where someone just transcribes the podcast, because there have been
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still an NFL dot com writer,
Speaker 1: but there it was absolutely an NFL dot com writer
Speaker 1: who worked in a public medium and would have his
Speaker 1: show transcribed and then that would just be an article.
Speaker 1: You outsourcing this on the pod is truly? Is that
Speaker 1: could we do? Could we just throw in this roster
Speaker 1: and then put my name in and maybe and just
Speaker 1: chatbot it? Wow? I think it's a great exploration. Why
Speaker 1: see what happened? I haven't tried that yet, but is that?
Speaker 1: Is that how it works? I'm not really sure the
Speaker 1: tech I feel you didn't fire up the chatbot. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because Elon Musk was part of a group
Speaker 1: that sent out like an open letter yesterday begging people
Speaker 1: to stop developing the chat GPT whatever it is program
Speaker 1: because he's afraid that, hey, I will take over civilization
Speaker 1: and humanity. That's good, just don't take away my blue
Speaker 1: check mark. Start there. I think that's happening soon or
Speaker 1: it already happened. All right, there you go. Those are
Speaker 1: the graybeards, the baton rouge graybeards. So what you said,
Speaker 1: I think switch We're just going to rip another team
Speaker 1: from San Diego because Greg went to College of Julane
Speaker 1: Palm Beach would be bad. You got snowbirds them they're
Speaker 1: wearing you like, put them in the cash money. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You could just really play into the baton
Speaker 1: rouge of it all. And they're a football mad state.
Speaker 1: San Diego fell in love with the team though. Okay,
Speaker 1: we want to do that for Lauderdale. That's where a
Speaker 1: door Lean lives exactly. All right, good one, good show.
Speaker 1: We'll be back next week. I will not be back
Speaker 1: next week. I will be on vacation. But we have um,
Speaker 1: Greg and the Gang on Monday, and then I go
Speaker 1: on vacation after that, and then Greg goes on vacation
Speaker 1: and then the show everyone's excited for Cesslermania. Are you
Speaker 1: going to be in the host chair? Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to change physical seats. I'm going to stay right
Speaker 1: here because maybe this is the host chair that day.
Speaker 1: Can I get unsolicited advice? The reason I am in
Speaker 1: this chair. It is known in the industry. I know
Speaker 1: you think I came up with this name, but it's
Speaker 1: an industry term. It's the power chair. It allows you
Speaker 1: to have direct eye contact with your producer. Now you
Speaker 1: have to turn to make eye contact with your producer
Speaker 1: when you are leading the show and driving the conversation.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to have that right Justin, How how
Speaker 1: vital is it in our conversation? Oh yeah, most of
Speaker 1: the time, when like a drop's coming up, or a
Speaker 1: segment or a bit we're doing, it's like I look
Speaker 1: at your eyes and I know when to hit. Now,
Speaker 1: I'll move out of the way. I won't say another word.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna learn is that come that episode, all
Speaker 1: these rules that have been dropped on our society simply
Speaker 1: do not exist will be Colleen will be part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the to the chaos, actually embrace it.
Speaker 1: From my experience doing the Monday Night thing, where I
Speaker 1: would sit there, Um, maybe you're spacey like me, Maybe
Speaker 1: you're not. I don't think I looked at Justin once
Speaker 1: in the forty minutes, or I would forget to look
Speaker 1: at the things he was sending me. On the computer
Speaker 1: because I just sort of got into my own world
Speaker 1: like I would do in any chair, So it didn't
Speaker 1: have a big impact. Very different takes. I would consider
Speaker 1: your advice. I think Dan makes a good point, but
Speaker 1: it didn't end up impacting me because I'm just too
Speaker 1: spacey and I'll move out of the way again. We'll
Speaker 1: be just I'm gonna move back in the way, just
Speaker 1: to say, how about Thursday. It's the Chaos Cast and
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna move out of the way. I think
Speaker 1: that's essentially it will be out of the way. I
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with the episode that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna do what everybody thinks I'm gonna do. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, before we go, this has not been a
Speaker 1: great week here at NFL Media. We have lost some
Speaker 1: colleagues to some cutbacks and other you know things going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes right now. Jim Trotter, who's a
Speaker 1: guy that we all have a ton of respect for,
Speaker 1: no longer with the company. Mike Giardi, who's been on
Speaker 1: the show and is a great reporter and an awesome guy,
Speaker 1: is moving on. And also, as people know by now,
Speaker 1: Rachel Bannetta, whom I have so much respect and fondness
Speaker 1: for as a person and as a professional. I know
Speaker 1: you guys feel the same way. And she has been
Speaker 1: a great part of this show and just the brief
Speaker 1: time she was here and became a really good friend
Speaker 1: to all of us, and she's going to continue to
Speaker 1: kill it. But I think we all wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about and just at least reference it because it is
Speaker 1: something that has been kind of weighing on the whole
Speaker 1: media group and for us and Rachel especially that that
Speaker 1: won't hurt. Yeah, I think like Jim and Mike were
Speaker 1: absolutely excellent what they did, and you just can't replace
Speaker 1: their personalities and their value. And someone like Rachel. I
Speaker 1: always found her fascinating to work with and get to
Speaker 1: know because she was an atypical fit for NFL media
Speaker 1: in all the right ways. Like and I think sometimes
Speaker 1: media houses don't know what to do with someone when
Speaker 1: they're totally original, creative, throwing you for loops with their humor,
Speaker 1: doing stuff on social that was completely unhinged and enjoyable,
Speaker 1: and just doing stuff that there was only one Rachel
Speaker 1: Bonetta And so wherever she goes, she'll be she'll fill
Speaker 1: that role again very well. And so I mean it's
Speaker 1: like I'm almost like it's just excited to see what
Speaker 1: she does. I hate that. I think my favorite part
Speaker 1: about this job is the people. I've met. So many
Speaker 1: of my greatest friends here at NFL Media. You guys
Speaker 1: were my first ever friends when I moved here to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and so I hate losing anyone at any point.
Speaker 1: And I know it's going to happen because that's just
Speaker 1: the nature of this industry especially, but it does. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, once you get close to people, and Jim Trotter,
Speaker 1: Mike Giardi and Bonetta, I've had a chance to kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, have these nice relationships with them, and especially Banetta,
Speaker 1: I've gotten really close with her. I think the world
Speaker 1: of her. We spend a ton of time together in
Speaker 1: Munich and it was just she's so creative, so talented,
Speaker 1: and just such a cool, down to earth, amazing, genuine
Speaker 1: person that I'm lucky enough to say is one of
Speaker 1: my good friends. So she's going to go on and
Speaker 1: do great. Yeah, total gem of a human, like a
Speaker 1: capital T talent where she could be a host. She
Speaker 1: was a great host on Game Debut and really brought
Speaker 1: that show together and was really fun doing it. And
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, like it seemed like she she
Speaker 1: made a big impact in this place. And I was
Speaker 1: thinking back to when I first met her, and it
Speaker 1: was like a week before the season or a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks before the season started, just a year and
Speaker 1: a half ago for the twenty twenty one season, you know,
Speaker 1: to meet and meet the new game debut crew, and like,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of good times. A Friday Fun
Speaker 1: show is awesome and I'll always remember her coming up
Speaker 1: on stage with us in London. So it's like that
Speaker 1: as a great memory to having our Backpock not going anywhere,
Speaker 1: we'll be watching her on TV doing who knows what.
Speaker 1: And it was like a packed house in London, and
Speaker 1: we didn't even give her much like direction. We just
Speaker 1: said we're gonna put up some various figures on the
Speaker 1: screen and then just be Rachel. And the crowd loved her,
Speaker 1: and we love Rachel and uh and maybe who knows,
Speaker 1: we'll cross pass down the line. But I'd love to
Speaker 1: everything you guys said too, because I worked with her
Speaker 1: obviously closely producing Benched for over a year and yeah,
Speaker 1: extremely creative person and I will miss working with her.
Speaker 1: We did not get better um hope to see her
Speaker 1: again soon. All right, now that's it. We'll be back
Speaker 1: next week, not all of us, and then after that
Speaker 1: week we'll all be back together. Recharge those batteries crossed, yes,
Speaker 1: fingers crossed, this right Jesus right till then he's the call,
Speaker 1: Great Bear. We're gonna see Great Bew. Just give us
Speaker 1: one last hip. We're here today, gone tomorrow. Will you watch?
Speaker 1: Youall follow it? Don't mean I cannot play. You will
Speaker 1: see me the way grave bits never away, you play,
Speaker 1: bits never been away? The girls, My hero, what's your ms?
Speaker 1: He goes there, ghost, my hero. It's over. Third day,