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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. On episode one three zero the Hammer Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Brad Rowland, coming to you on

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Speaker 1: a Saturday evening, Yes, Saturday evening, and I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: Scott Coleman as always, Hello sir, how are you hello? Brad?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. How was your holiday? How was your Christmas?

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Speaker 2: How is Brad Rowland's world these days?

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Speaker 1: You know, we're living the dream out here. I am

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Speaker 1: fresh off of Atlanta Hawk's home victory that I covered

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Speaker 1: in person. So we're recording this podcast on a Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We navigated Christmas. We'll see how the next holiday goes.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's that time of year where days don't matter,

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Speaker 1: which is why you and I are recording on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Who knows who knows what day it is right now?

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Speaker 1: No one's going to work. How's Arizona this time of years? Scott?

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Speaker 2: It was beautiful, It's lovely. Actually, it's well, it's not

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Speaker 2: a surprise. I mean, I swear like every person over

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Speaker 2: the age of like fifty five is in Arizona right now.

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Speaker 2: Makes sense. It was seventy degrees today, beautiful day. It

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Speaker 2: was the Snoop dog Gin and Juice Bowl game just

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Speaker 2: down the road. For me, I did not make it

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Speaker 2: out to go see Snoop and all of that festivity.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, this is for all of the days of

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Speaker 2: hell in like July and August, when it's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eleven degrees out here, Arizona in July or in

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Speaker 2: December is the place to be and try to enjoy

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Speaker 2: it as much as we can.

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Speaker 1: That's right. And you know, you and I talked twice

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Speaker 1: last week, and we did. We're pretty front about it.

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Speaker 1: We talked twice at the same time. We did an

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Speaker 1: episode we published it. We also banked an episode that

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Speaker 1: published a few days later on matt Olsen. We should

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Speaker 1: just say now those two shows are relevant at this

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Speaker 1: point in time. We did a show it was mail

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Speaker 1: bag episode for the holidays. We did a mett Olsen

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Speaker 1: Deep Dive as part of our Player Capsule off season series.

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Speaker 1: Those are available for you. Also, we encourage you to

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Speaker 1: subscribe to Hammer Territory anywhere you find your podcasts. We're

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Speaker 1: on Apple and Spotify, we're on Amazon Music, we're on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Please like the video there if you want to see

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Speaker 1: our shining faces. But you know, still all quiet on

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Speaker 1: the Braves front at this point in time. We weren't

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Speaker 1: sure if they might stick something in. Once Christmas got here,

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Speaker 1: we were pretty sure they were going to do anything

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Speaker 1: for a few days, as most of the time that's

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Speaker 1: what happens. But there have been some players who have

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Speaker 1: signed deals since the last time that you and I

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Speaker 1: talked and made Braves fans mad in the interim to

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Speaker 1: varying degrees. So quickly we'll run that down, and then

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Speaker 1: later on in the show we'll kind of go through

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Speaker 1: the state of the market. Who's still available, because twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four is almost over, Scott, this might be the

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Speaker 1: last time you and I talked this year. We'll see,

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Speaker 1: But anyway, a quartet of players have signed bigger deals.

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Speaker 1: Corn Burns coming to your home in Arizona for a

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of money task for Hernandez back

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Speaker 1: to the Dodgers Walker viewer of Boston and Jock Peterson

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Speaker 1: was when that broke kind of surprise to the Diamondbacks,

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Speaker 1: not that Braves were supposed to be interested, Like we

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. There probably on Corban Burns, but uh, your

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Speaker 1: takeaway is that, I think the right one the National League, man, like,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that wasn't the Areazona has been

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Speaker 1: good for a couple of years, but they were not

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Speaker 1: supposed to be like a contender. And Capitol Letters, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the National League is going to be ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You have the Braves, you have the Phillies, you have

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Speaker 2: playoff teams unless something very weird happens. You have the

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Speaker 2: reigning champion Dodgers and their unlimited money. You have the

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Speaker 2: later on the show as a possible fit for the Braves.

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Speaker 2: And then you have the Diamondbacks, who are a year

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Speaker 2: take on Corbyn Burns. He lives in Scottsdale. It sounds

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Speaker 2: like he took less money to go to the Diamondbacks

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Speaker 2: to stay home. He gets to do spring training just

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Speaker 2: the Giants were heavily favored to land Burns earlier on.

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Speaker 2: And it sounds like the Blue Jays lost out on

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Speaker 2: like the five hundredth free agent this winter as well.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, big takeaway the National League is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And one other just quick note that Max Freed, old

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Speaker 2: Max a very wealthy man now and hopefully he does

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the reporting that was out there about

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Speaker 1: book docract for Burns as well. It's it's got an

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Speaker 1: a reminder to us too, but also to fans in general,

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Speaker 1: like just because you would have done a deal, doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that player was going to do that deal with

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Speaker 1: we don't really know what the Braves have offered anyone,

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Speaker 1: to other players to like, you know, for instance, Walker

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Speaker 1: feeling Walker brulerill probably got offered a contract by the

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Speaker 1: have made a lot offers to players and also guys

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Speaker 1: things are prioritized for different players, different agents, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: a Korbyn Bird's podcast, but as reminder, like basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think he's generally right about that. I mean

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Speaker 2: More nuanced, right, Why did one Soto go to the

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Speaker 2: sixty five million dollars, Brad, that is why one Soto

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Speaker 1: If he was offered five hundred million dollars from somebody

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Speaker 1: everyone in the world would turn down the extra two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think Corden Burns would have taken

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Speaker 1: if all things are relatively equal, you could play at home.

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Speaker 1: That's a It's kind of the Charlie Morton thing, right

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Speaker 1: I think if you got the same offer from the

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Speaker 1: Does that sound reasonable? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean he said as much about twenty five times

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Speaker 2: Tiscar Hernandez looking back on it a year ago, he

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone really expected him to leave

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no one really did, honestly, with the with that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Braves have six weeks basically, Yeah, six weeks

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what Scott Coleman said. Breveryone will not

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Speaker 1: saying that, and I'm kidding it. I think that's a

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Speaker 2: I can promise you right now, Brad. We we try

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Speaker 2: on Socials, you get everything you get the you get

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Speaker 2: everything from The Braves are cheap, screw them, fire Alexanthopolis

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Speaker 2: you we will do that show in February, but that's

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Speaker 2: bonus points for having your roster finalized by Christmas Day,

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Speaker 2: even if it does make for some better podcast content

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Speaker 2: in November and December. Give it six weeks. See where

431
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Speaker 2: this team is at come spring training and come opening day,

432
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Speaker 2: and if it does come to a point though where

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Speaker 2: they have done very very little, it is a it's

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Speaker 2: time then to have the conversation. I think just a

435
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Speaker 2: lot of the reactions so far, even if it has

436
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Speaker 2: been painfully quiet, like unbelievably painfully quiet. As two fellas

437
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Speaker 2: who do a couple of podcasts every week, I promise you.

438
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Speaker 2: Nobody is rooting for moves more than Brad and I are,

439
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Speaker 2: so it gives us something to talk about. But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, again, you don't get bonus

441
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Speaker 2: wins for having deals done in November and December. A

442
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Speaker 2: lot of free agents out there, a lot of trades

443
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Speaker 2: can still go down in January and even February to March.

444
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Speaker 2: Give it some time and we'll see what the Braves

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Speaker 2: ultimately do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well said. I don't have much to add it.

447
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Speaker 1: Six weeks is a good way to frame it. That's

448
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Speaker 1: mid February. You start to get into pictures and catchers

449
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Speaker 1: and all those things by then, and uh, yeah, they

450
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Speaker 1: have anything. We've all said that too. I'm sure we

451
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Speaker 1: are painted, probably rightfully as like leaning towards the like everybody,

452
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Speaker 1: everything will be okay. Guys like I kind of trust Alex,

453
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Speaker 1: and I do I do. I do think Alex is

454
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Speaker 1: very good at his job. I'm more on that side,

455
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Speaker 1: unquestionably than the fire everyone. Alex is on the beach

456
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Speaker 1: somewhere side, which I think is quite funny, honestly. But

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Speaker 1: what you said is perfect, and I think we've all

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Speaker 1: said it to very degrees. I know Stephen has Stevens

459
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Speaker 1: probably of the four of us, probably the most the

460
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Speaker 1: one is itching the most out of the four of us.

461
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Speaker 1: But yeah, if they don't do anything, we're gonna kill

462
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Speaker 1: them for it. Like at the same time, like I'll

463
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Speaker 1: probably point out because it's like in my soul that

464
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Speaker 1: the brands are still gonna be probably be good even

465
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Speaker 1: if they don't do anything, which is annoying on some level,

466
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Speaker 1: because they'll still probably be pretty good. But we are

467
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Speaker 1: in full agreement that they should not sit on their

468
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Speaker 1: hands here. They should do stuff. They should spend money.

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Speaker 1: You're right. I get often people make fun of me

470
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Speaker 1: about the printing money things, but I believe it. The

471
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Speaker 1: Braves make a lot of money on the battery. The

472
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Speaker 1: Braves saw that place out I go down there, I

473
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Speaker 1: see it. They should spend money. They should make moves,

474
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Speaker 1: and it would not just not just for us for

475
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Speaker 1: the podcast like great for podcastspodder, but for the team.

476
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Speaker 1: They have holes, like they have stuff that they need

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Speaker 1: to address. And uh yeah, six weeks is are good.

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Speaker 1: So wherever we are in your calendars, folks, circle mid

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Speaker 1: February and if nothing happens, hold us too account. I

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Speaker 1: don't by the way, you won't need to remind us.

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Speaker 1: But if we haven't done a show by mid February

482
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Speaker 1: bashing them for not spending or not doing anything, remind us.

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Speaker 1: But we'll do that shows it's going to be coming.

484
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Speaker 1: It might be a four mat episode or it might

485
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Speaker 1: just be Stephens screaming full volume by himself on the

486
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Speaker 1: feed for days on end. Anyway, is that good enough

487
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Speaker 1: as a as a table setter? Scott for where we are?

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Speaker 2: And yeah, should we talk about kind of the Yeah,

489
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Speaker 2: should we talk about like the state of the free

490
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Speaker 2: agent market?

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Speaker 1: Real quick? Let's do that. Look, the holes were still

492
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Speaker 1: the same, right, it's it's starting pitching, it's cornrale field,

493
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Speaker 1: it's relievers. And of course there's a shortstop where there's

494
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Speaker 1: literally one person. Hawsak Kim's the only short stop available. Scott,

495
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Speaker 1: breaking news. It's been the same since Willy Damas signed.

496
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Speaker 1: There's one player.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's we will quickly do Hassong Kim because it

498
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Speaker 2: has been radio silence on.

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Speaker 1: Him, like nothing, nothing, and I've looked nothing. Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 2: I googled Hassong Kim rumors about four hours ago. There

501
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Speaker 2: was a report from like early November that the Tigers

502
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Speaker 2: might be interested. There was a report a week later

503
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Speaker 2: that the Giants might be interested, but they have since

504
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Speaker 2: signed Willia Damas, and there's just not a ton of

505
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Speaker 2: teams like actively looking for shortstops right now. I don't know.

506
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Speaker 2: I mean, maybe you know, things come together and he

507
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Speaker 2: takes a shorter like I know, Scott Morris originally came

508
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Speaker 2: out and said that like he was looking for a

509
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Speaker 2: four or a five year deal for Hassan him. There's

510
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Speaker 2: there's no way for a player coming off shoulder surgery

511
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Speaker 2: and at shortstop, which generally doesn't age very well. But

512
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Speaker 2: you know, I said, every day that passes is presumably

513
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Speaker 2: another day that kind of ticks towards the team's sided negotiations,

514
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Speaker 2: because at some point these players get antsy and want

515
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Speaker 2: to know where they're going to be playing, where they're

516
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Speaker 2: going to move their families. So I'm not necessarily ready

517
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Speaker 2: to do like a full on Hassan Kim breakdown, because

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Speaker 2: I still think shortstop is probably third or fourth on

519
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Speaker 2: the priority poll for Alex and I'm not even sure

520
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Speaker 2: he's going to get there at this winner, but he is.

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Speaker 2: As you said, Kim is basically the only shortstop on

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Speaker 2: the free agent market who would be any kind of

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Speaker 2: upgrade for Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that. I mean there are other guys

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Speaker 1: who are comparable to the Arcia, like Jose Glacis is

526
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Speaker 1: as comparable. Maybe you can argue a little bit better,

527
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Speaker 1: but I think the only guy who is like clearly

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Speaker 1: better than Arcia is also on Kim and at the

529
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Speaker 1: reason don't like him. We wouldn't know that. So it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, maybe there's trades and there's that's that's it.

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Speaker 1: So that's a short breakdown, but that's the listen sture stop. Elsewhere,

532
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Speaker 1: the starry pitcher market has thinned quite a bit because

533
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys have side for a lot of money.

534
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Speaker 1: By the way, the prices and the starry pitcher market

535
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Speaker 1: had been sky high, and we've discussed that a lot

536
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Speaker 1: on the show the last few weeks and months. Still

537
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Speaker 1: the case quickly. The only guy that's projected for big

538
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Speaker 1: money coming into Gossason is still available is Jack Flaherty,

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Speaker 1: a player that I think would have surprised us if

540
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Speaker 1: the Braves got in on Jack Flaherty at any point.

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Speaker 1: It's still would surprised me. Do you agree with that? Well,

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Speaker 1: before we move on, I think you maybe if the

543
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Speaker 1: market falls on him, there's a point where they might

544
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Speaker 1: jump in, But at the pre November levels, like where

545
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Speaker 1: it was like five years and one hundred plus million,

546
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna happen to Jack flarerty in

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Speaker 1: the Braves my personal.

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Speaker 2: Guess, Yeah, no, I would agree. The only thing that's

549
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Speaker 2: mildly interesting about Flarity, other than the fact that he's

550
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Speaker 2: a pretty good pitcher, he's only twenty nine years old,

551
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Speaker 2: So if he's maybe looking for a shorter deal to

552
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Speaker 2: then hit free agency one more time in his early thirties,

553
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Speaker 2: maybe that would be a reason where instead of looking

554
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Speaker 2: for five years, he's looking for two or three years,

555
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Speaker 2: or heck even a one year deal if he really

556
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Speaker 2: doesn't like the market, and then hit free agency again.

557
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Speaker 2: Every every winter, there's thirty teams looking for pitching help.

558
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Speaker 2: So that's one minor outlet too. I could see connecting

559
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Speaker 2: the dots on Jack Flaherty, But I'm guessing that some

560
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Speaker 2: team is going to be hungry and desperate enough to

561
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Speaker 2: do four or five years, and I don't think it's

562
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Speaker 2: going to be the Braves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good way, and that's gonna want to

564
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Speaker 1: mean about the market, Like, if this is not there

565
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Speaker 1: for him, maybe it's a pillow contract with the Brave

566
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Speaker 1: or something like that. Did you know, Scott he pitched with

567
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Speaker 1: Max Fried in high school? Do you ever hear that story? Anyway?

568
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Speaker 2: Moving on and Lucas Giolito too, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sam Teve weird, they're all friends. Okay. After Flarity, you

570
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Speaker 1: got this midsier market where like you have Jeff Hoffman,

571
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Speaker 1: who has been a podcast favorite. I know Sean is

572
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: all all on the Jef Boffman train. He is this

573
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: year's Ronald Lopez potential starter, but it's been a reliever.

574
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Speaker 1: Circle him on the list. We talked abou him before.

575
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Speaker 1: Then you have this like mid tier of like Nick

576
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Speaker 1: Pavetta and Andrew Heeney, both of them like could get

577
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Speaker 1: some decent money, eight figure contracts probably for those guys.

578
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Speaker 1: Paveta has a qualifying offer. I don't know if that's

579
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Speaker 1: the Braves off. I kind of like Andrew like as

580
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: a sneaky target. Not sexy at all, don't get me wrong,

581
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: but like a maybe we think he's better than Charlie

582
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Speaker 1: Morton in twenty twenty five kind of thing for Andrewghini

583
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Speaker 1: at a similar price point, you know, low eight figures

584
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Speaker 1: for something like that. I'm assuming you're not moved by

585
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: either one of those players, but they're kind of in

586
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Speaker 1: their own tier of like they're gonna get some money

587
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: this offseason and and maybe from the Brais or may

588
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: may not be, but if they're trying to find some safety,

589
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Speaker 1: I think Pavetta and Heeney year other than Morton, are

590
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Speaker 1: kind of that like mid tier, short deal, reasonable price.

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Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you know, Andrew Heeny Nobody's gonna pop Champagne

592
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Speaker 2: if he were to sign, but probably yeah, twenty five

593
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: thirty starts, probably a low four ZRA. He's been durable.

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Speaker 1: He's been pretty.

595
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Speaker 2: Good with Texas and Anaheim, you know. And Nick Pavetta

596
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 2: is interesting in the sense that if he ever stopped

597
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Speaker 2: giving up home runs at like the worst rate in baseball,

598
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Speaker 2: like seriously, the worst rate in baseball among starting pitchers

599
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Speaker 2: last year, if Pavetta ever stopped giving up home runs

600
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Speaker 2: at a crazy rate, he would actually be like really good.

601
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Speaker 2: He gets a lot of strikeouts, he doesn't walk a

602
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Speaker 2: whole lot of hitters. He's been pretty durable, his stuff

603
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: is pretty solid, So I could see Pavetta maybe being

604
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Speaker 2: of interest for the Braves if they think that getting

605
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Speaker 2: him out of Fenway Park might do him some good. Again,

606
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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would be super pumped over an

607
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: Nick Poveta signing, but he's interestingly enough that he has

608
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: some stuff in his arsenal that would probably be appealing

609
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Speaker 2: to the Braves. And if you think a change of

610
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: scenery or just some adjustments on the mound could get

611
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Speaker 2: his home run ball under control, then you have a

612
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Speaker 2: picture who could probably be quite good, quite honestly, But

613
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Speaker 2: that's obviously easier said than done for a pitcher who

614
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Speaker 2: has always given up a million home runs throughout his career.

615
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean useful, that's one area, like they see

616
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Speaker 1: something they like, but perhaps, uh, that's kind of the

617
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Speaker 1: end of a tear bree. I mean, you got Morton

618
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: still available if he wants to pitch. We don't know

619
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Speaker 1: anything else that we don't already know about Jolly Morton.

620
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Speaker 1: And then you get to the lower the lowering guys.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say some names. We don't have to

622
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Speaker 1: add anythingless you want to. A couple old guys Justin Berlioner,

623
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Speaker 1: Max Schurzer are available. Kyle Gibson, is a super booring pitcher,

624
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Speaker 1: lance Lynn, jose Kntana, Spencer Turnbull, Like these are all

625
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Speaker 1: like fifth starter types at this point. Again, at a

626
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Speaker 1: certain price point, all those guys become interesting if it's

627
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Speaker 1: cheap enough. But it's just like, I don't know what

628
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Speaker 1: you want to spend money on where the market is,

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Speaker 1: and they seem like there might be like those might

630
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Speaker 1: be February tenth signings, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would be in favor of giving it

632
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Speaker 2: to Grant Holmes or a J. Smiths, Shauber or someone

633
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: like that. I mean, if if Justin Verlander wants to

634
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Speaker 2: do it for the love of the game at six

635
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: million dollars next season, then sure. But you know, for

636
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Speaker 2: a front office that's clearly being at least somewhat cost

637
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Speaker 2: conscious this winter. Yeah, I think internally the Braves probably

638
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Speaker 2: have options that would rival some of those bottom tier guys.

639
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'd rather have Morton than all those guys. For example,

640
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Speaker 1: even if he's not on the team, but he's I

641
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Speaker 1: think he's better than all those guys. Other than if

642
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: you want to argue that that Pavetta and he knew

643
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: better than Morton, I'll listen to you. The tier below that.

644
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: I think I just want to have Charlie for cost, certainty,

645
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: all those things. Anyway, that's the market quickly on started

646
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: pitching at A lot of guys have signed, and a

647
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: lot of talk a big money, Like for instance, you'd

648
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: mentioned Flaherty earlier when Sean and I is getting three

649
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: for seventy five. If you're Jack Flaherty, like you've got

650
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: to get more than job Maya, Like you're supposed to

651
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: better than JOm and Iya. So like if that's your

652
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: floor price, it's just like kind of a lot of

653
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: money for a lot of these guys. Okay, the one

654
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: guy we want to talk about a little bit more

655
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: is at corner outfield, right, So we've discussed corner out

656
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: fielders a lot. A lot of guys have signed already,

657
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: with which early on this podcast Das Bernanda signed. Anthy

658
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Santander is not like a guy that I think, well

659
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: we think probably at least we talked about four is

660
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: not super brazy maybe if the market is cheap enough,

661
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: but he's a good player, not what they want, like

662
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: he's kind of a lefty master that don't really need

663
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: one of those, etcetera. There, Jerkson Profar we've discussed before

664
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: on the show, but not in a ton of depth.

665
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: He along with Santander are like pretty clearly the two

666
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: best corner outfielders available still on the market, and I'll

667
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: tee you up. I mean, he seems like he's fairly

668
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: appealing profile to what the Braves are looking for, other

669
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: than maybe the defense, which I think is like maybe

670
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: a step above joh Peterson, but it's it's not very good.

671
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: But what do you make of this? Because he's not

672
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: a guy that we focused on a lot on the show,

673
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: but I think people probably recognize from his prospect days,

674
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: et cetera, and like might be a fit for the Braves.

675
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, I'm trying to figure out who the

676
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: Braves are going to go get for the outfield, because

677
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: clearly they have a need, Like full stop, the Braves

678
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: have a need. I would almost argue that the corner

679
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: outfield is the biggest need for this team right now.

680
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: But that's you know, we could probably have that conversation

681
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: at another time. Jerkson Profar is really interesting. Coming into

682
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: the offseason. He was projected for like a three year,

683
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: forty five million dollar contract, which seems fair and reasonable.

684
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: No Profar is fascinating because he was really bad in

685
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. He had a negative one war and

686
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: was flat out released by the terrible Colorado Rockies. Do

687
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: you know how bad you have to be to get

688
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: released by the Colorado Rockies? So flash forward six months.

689
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Profar signs a one million dollar deal with the San

690
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: Diego Padres and what does he do But he basically

691
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: reworks and retools his entire swing, which is pretty crazy

692
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: for a guy who's going to be thirty two years

693
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: old next season. You don't hear a lot about guys

694
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: in their thirties who have been in baseball for a

695
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: decade deciding to suddenly change everything they do in the

696
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: batter's box. But after working with Fernando Tatisa's dad, who

697
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 2: is a hitting coach, Profar put together an unbelievably good

698
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season, like legitimately good Brad like in

699
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: terms of his expected numbers on how hard he hit

700
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: the baseball. This is the company that Jerkson Profar kept

701
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 2: And then I'll throw.

702
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: It back to you.

703
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: Profar was one point ahead of Mookie Bets and two

704
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: points behind Rafael Devers.

705
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Is that good?

706
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 2: He was like three points behind Freddy Freeman, and he

707
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: was like three points ahead of Bryce Harper. So there

708
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: are questions about Profar I get it, and we'll talk

709
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: about those here in a minute. But even if it's

710
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: for one season, if you have a year where you're

711
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: in the same company as Freddy Freeman, Bryce Harper, Mookie

712
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: Bets and Raphael Devers, I think it's only fair to

713
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 2: have your attention. And if he's available on a shorter deal,

714
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: then I think he's a natural.

715
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Fit for what the Braves need. Yeah, that's a good synopsis,

716
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: because look, this is not breaking ground. But if last

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: year was real, he's a great hitter. I mean, he

718
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: was a legitimately great hitter last year, and that's not

719
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: us gassing him for any reason. He's not on the

720
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: team right now with no reason to guess about he was.

721
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: He was a great hitter last year. You gave the

722
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: numbers one, three, nine RC plus like just awesome switch

723
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: hitter two like not not big platoon split like just

724
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: certainly a guy who can check a lot of box

725
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: for you to take the off the table. I'm old, Scott.

726
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: I remember Pero far As, like the prospect fourteen we

727
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: you know, twelve thirteen, years old. However, long ago that

728
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: was like he was a I'm not exaggerating. He was

729
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: supposed to be like an ACUNEA level prospect. He was

730
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: the number one prospect in baseball and that did not happen.

731
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: But like that's what I remember first about Profar still

732
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: now probably it's like he was supposed to be the

733
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: guy and then he wasn't. But like you might you

734
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: mentioned this, the scream were working, like because of this

735
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: swing being reworked. I tend to believe it. For like

736
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I tend to believe last year was more real, Like

737
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: what I what I what I projected to do what

738
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: he did last year. No, I wouldn't because he hasn't

739
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: done that other than last year. But I think if

740
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: I had to guess, he's gonna be a good hitter

741
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: this coming season. He's not super old, you know, in

742
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: his he'll be thirty two. That's not over the hill.

743
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: It's by freezing standard, it's pretty normal. But the work

744
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: that he did on that's on the swing, plus the

745
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: talent that he once had or was supposed supposed to have,

746
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: I kind of believe it more than I would on

747
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who had a breakout at thirty one.

748
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: Like it's a little bit scary on some respects, but

749
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: you know he wasn't You know, the Potteries aren't some

750
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: massive hitters park either, Like he was putting up these

751
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: numbers in a reasonable environment. Was like he was playing

752
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: in the course field he had. Actually he did play

753
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: for the Rockies for a while. Yeah, I like the

754
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: profile now I much to do this already. It's not

755
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: good by all accounts. I won't claim to have watched

756
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Profile play a lot of defense, but when I was

757
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: above average. Drs agree you're bad, both of them. It's

758
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: you're generally bad most of the time, like I expected

759
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: to be. Again, maybe maybe a hair or two better

760
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: than the Solaire Peterson level, and that might scare you off,

761
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: Like if you think he's a DH, like we're back

762
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: to where we just were with jockol Like I'm not

763
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: gonna tell you to tell you what I'm not gonna

764
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: say out almost out of my mouth. Like if they

765
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: think his defense is bad, like bad bad, you probably

766
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: want to pass. But if it's a level that I

767
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: think is passable, then it becomes interesting. So yeah, I

768
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: think I would have said even before all the market

769
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: bore out the way it's born out, with a lot

770
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: of guys signing already, if they could have got him

771
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: for a shorter deal three years, probably at a you know,

772
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: fourteen to sixteen million dollars or something like that. Even

773
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: back in November, I would have said, okay, makes total sense.

774
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: Now that seems even better because the market generally has

775
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: overpaid or at least paid a lot for everyone, and

776
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: the market's thinner. So like in theory, if he has

777
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: multiple suitors, he's agents. You know, his agents behave. This

778
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: guy has a lot of value and not a lot

779
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: of places for him to go. I don't know. I

780
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: like it tentatively, even acknowledging that I don't like the

781
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: defense from what I can see, but the bat like

782
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: I long story short, I think I believe that that

783
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: more than I would for most players with this profile.

784
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: Because of last year's changes, he became a different hit.

785
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like fluky results. His process clearly changed. Yeah,

786
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: also as bad a ball data clearly changed. Like it

787
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: wasn't like a guy who and I think between the

788
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: two of us, that's not perfect science. We can look

789
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: at a profile with all the bad ball duo it's

790
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: available now at stack cast and kind of tell you

791
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 1: if it was a fluke or not. And it doesn't

792
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: look like a fluke last year. Now, whether you could

793
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: do that again is different, but it wasn't like he

794
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: was just like getting lucky on bad bit and like

795
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: hitting a bunch of fly balls that got one inch

796
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: over the over the wall, et cetera. Itself Like it

797
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 1: looks like an awesome profile and because of that, I'm.

798
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: Prettierd Yeah, yeah, just again, we'll wrap up Profar here,

799
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: but you know, just two unbelievable numbers you mentioned the

800
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: batted ball data. Profar increased his average exit velocity last

801
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: season by five miles an hour. Now, that may not

802
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: seem like anything crazy, like you know, what's the difference

803
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: between driving thirty and thirty five miles an hour down

804
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: the street. But for a baseball player, that is unbelievable.

805
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: That's a huge difference over a one hundred and sixty

806
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: two game season. Profar also increased his hard hit and

807
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: hard contact rate by thirteen points, which.

808
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: Is really impressive.

809
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: And again, man, go go look if you're bored and

810
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: want to, you know, look into a possible braves target.

811
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: Go look at a at bat from Profar in twenty

812
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: twenty three and one in twenty twenty four, and he

813
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: doesn't even look like the same guy up there. So

814
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: an interesting player for sure. I'm not sure how many

815
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 2: teams are actively looking for outfield help right now. Maybe

816
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: that some of Alex Anthopolis's calculus here that he doesn't

817
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: necessarily want a bid against the entire league. And as say,

818
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 2: the Dodgers just signed Tioscar Hernandez, well they're not looking

819
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: for an outfielder anymore. Other teams have added outfielders, they

820
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: are no longer in the mo market. So maybe Profar

821
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: falls into the Braves's laps. The defense is a very

822
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: legitimate concern, But if he was a gold Glover, he

823
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: would be getting a five year, one hundred and twenty

824
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: million dollars deal, and instead he might be looking at

825
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: a two or three year deal at fifteen million per

826
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: And that is clearly something that Alex is kind of

827
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: more privy to doing than opening the checkbook for a

828
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: maybe not a one year wonder. But to be clear,

829
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: you are paying for a player at the very peak

830
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: of what his value could be.

831
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe you get a discount so to speak,

832
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: because it's only one year and teams maybe not, maybe

833
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: aren't buying it. Maybe the Braves aren't buying it, and

834
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: O teams are not, and that way they get they

835
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get a market. So we'll stop talking

836
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: about him now. It's not like they signed him so far,

837
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: but it's there's an interesting middle ground where like he

838
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: could be a pretty big value if you get him

839
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: at a deal that's like what we just talked about,

840
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: like fifteen million a year. He was worth a lot

841
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: more than that last year, a lot more. I might

842
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: say it's gonna happen again, but there is a little

843
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: bit of a middle there where you could be pretty

844
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he's probably the most enticing free

845
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: agent outfield or available for the Braves, given what Santana

846
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: doesn't do for the Braves, particular skills that they want.

847
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: Lower down the list again, much Lord on the list.

848
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: A couple more names are just mentioned throughout there. Alex

849
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: Ferdugo old pal, Jason Hayward is still available, hits Righty's veteran,

850
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. Jesse Winker is like toward the

851
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: DH side, but we've always kind of liked him as

852
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: a potential platoonist guy in the outfield, and then old

853
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: power more Loreano still available probably for cheap relationships there.

854
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: So that just to be clear, that's a big step

855
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: down from the others. But uh, noting that, Okay. So

856
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: now one more name, different position that we should talk

857
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: about briefly is Tanner Scott. So we've mentioned Tarner Scott

858
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: few times on the show and these free agent rundowns

859
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: because he is coming into the off season. Was the

860
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: biggest name, biggest projected contract for any really and he's

861
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: still on the market right now. He's awesome for the record, like,

862
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: he's an awesome pitcher. That's why he's getting discussion in

863
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: the way he is. But uh, Dave O'Brien of the

864
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: Athletics come to the brace for a long time, right,

865
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: he's mentioned Tanner Scott enough where you took notice of

866
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: it and pointed out to me, I didn't. I didn't

867
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: notice this is I'll give credit to Scott. Scott was like, man,

868
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: do you be talking about Tanner Scott a lot? Notable?

869
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything other than he just mentioned it.

870
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: But Tanner Scott is not like what you think. The

871
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: Braves quote unquote need the most because they have Resto Glacias.

872
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: They have a high dollar awesome closer and I'm using

873
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: closer and giant quotes if you're not watching the podcast

874
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: on YouTube, because you know most of the time you

875
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: don't pay a number two reliever huge closer money, especially

876
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: when you are on a relative budget. We don't know

877
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: what the Brazer Bult budget. It's not the Mets. They're

878
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: not spending unlimited funds. Same with the Dodgers. There is

879
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: a budget Alex has. At the same time, we have

880
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: laughed and joked and poked funny but at times about

881
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: Alex's proclarty for paying relievers. He tends to like to

882
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: pay relievers for whatever reason. Will Smith got a lot

883
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: of money from the Braves right on down the list,

884
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: and right now Joejamenz getting paid to not pitch. He's

885
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: hurt right now. The Glaces is a big contract. Pierce Johnson,

886
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Bummer, the list goes.

887
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: On and on.

888
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: He pays relievers, he just does. Kevin Danson Back of

889
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: the Day, kurbyates, what are you making this? Is it

890
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: plausible that the Braves could pay a market contract of

891
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: Tanner Scott or would it take a discount probably to

892
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: get him to Atlanta.

893
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Canner Scott really good, like a claim

894
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: to probably being the best reliever in baseball the last

895
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 2: two seasons. His stuff from the left side is disgusting.

896
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: I mean that fastball and that slider, You're not going

897
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: to hit it. I mean that, especially if you're a

898
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: left handed hitter, you are not going to hit the baseball.

899
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: That is such a weapon to have, especially come playoff

900
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: time when matchups become so important. You know, Tanner Scott,

901
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: he's interested. He's going to likely get paid like a

902
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: good closer.

903
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: You just said.

904
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 2: The Braves have a closer, So I don't know if

905
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: they necessarily want to commit that kind of money. The

906
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: real question I have about this, and to be David

907
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: O'Brien said multiple times now that the Braves are interested

908
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 2: in Tanner Scott. If the Braves don't care about money,

909
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: and in the next month they're going to drop some cash,

910
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: like throw out some names, they sign profar, they signed

911
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: Tanner Scott, and they trade for a pitcher owed some

912
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: real money, you know, then I understand signing Tanner Scott more.

913
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: But if if they are really counting their dollars and

914
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: they're going to try to get under the luxury tax

915
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: or whatever it is they're going to try to do. Then,

916
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: for my money, relief pitcher is the third priority here

917
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: behind outfield and starting pitching, and I'd even throw a

918
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: shortstop in there too.

919
00:44:58,760 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: So it's interesting.

920
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: Again, If Tanner Scott's the first move, I'm guessing that

921
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: it signals that they are going to spend even more

922
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: money than what we are anticipating, and that Alex was

923
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: just kind of waiting for the market to develop. But

924
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if they really are counting money, it just

925
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't add up in terms of dollars and cents.

926
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: If he's going to be like your one edition when

927
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: you have a giant hole in the outfield and probably

928
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: a hole in your rotation, that that doesn't sound right

929
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: to me.

930
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't add anything else really, I mean, I

931
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: generally like paying relievers less than Alex does. Even with

932
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: that said, like, there are bigger issues now. Now we've

933
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: also said this, like they could use another reliever given

934
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: the Jimenez absence, which probably for the season, not definitely,

935
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: but probably for the season, and no Mentor right now,

936
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Minter still creation could they send. They could sign Mentor,

937
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: but if you just take amenas a mentor away. They

938
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:58,959
Speaker 1: have some group of lievers, like we love to only

939
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: remembers good. Johnson was a little shaky this year, but

940
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: still a good reliever generally speaking. And Iglesias like they're

941
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: in a okay spot with the bullpen, like the Braves

942
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: are the envy of most teams in the bullpen, even

943
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: right this second without him and this without Manner, but

944
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: they could use Tanner Scott Obviously he's awesome. Sign me up.

945
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, it's it's a hard sell it

946
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: if he's your one big expenditure in a winter with

947
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: this roster, it's like scratch your head a little bit.

948
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: It's like what we what are we doing here? But

949
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: you're right. If it's paired with other things, it's easier

950
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: to explain. And also the price, but matters like he's

951
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: projected to get, Like I think the one media and

952
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: I've seen is like four fifty six, so like that's

953
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: like a Glazius money a Glacis basically was getting four

954
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: for sixty when they traded for him. It was essentially

955
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: a free agent signing because they traded nothing for him.

956
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: It just shot that's who they got back but they

957
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: took on a lot of money there, and he's done

958
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: worth every penny so far. But if your number two

959
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: reliever is making fourteen to fifteen million dollars a year

960
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: for four years and you're paying him in is to

961
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: not pitch this year at eight plus million, which I

962
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: think we agree, or at least it could have influenced

963
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: some other decisions like that Travis dr no timing was

964
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: not ignored by us. Like I think it's possible that

965
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: they let Travis go because of Himna's injury, which is crazy,

966
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: but it might have happened. Long story short, like, yeah,

967
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: if they signed Tarror Scott, I'm not going to criticize

968
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: them within reason. I think if it's a if it's

969
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: four for eighty even, yeah I'll be bothered by that.

970
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: But if it's four for fifty or whatever for sixty

971
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: reasonable contract in a vacuum, it's just that that's not

972
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: what they need the most. But maybe Alex is gonna

973
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: come as he often does, and just say, you know what,

974
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna just throw resources at the bullpen and look

975
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: to his credit, it's work. The Braves have been awesome

976
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: in the bullpen for several seasons in a row, and

977
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: this last season they had to be I mean, they

978
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: had to be awesome with the pitching staff, give Ben

979
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: everything else that went wrong, and that was a big,

980
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: big part of why they made the playoffs. It was

981
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: a maddening season, but they got a lot out of

982
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: the bullpen and that really helped them. So it's hard

983
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: to like be bothered by the bullpen construction so far,

984
00:47:58,880 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: for sure.

985
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: And my long time take on bullpen spending is as

986
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: long as the rest of your roster is good and

987
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 2: has depth and doesn't have holes all over the place,

988
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 2: I have no problem with spending on a bullpen. A

989
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: bad bullpen can nuke an otherwise really good team because

990
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: close winds turn into close losses, blowout wins turn into

991
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: close wins where you're having to use everybody and kind

992
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: of stress through. It really no issue at all with

993
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: spending money on your bullpen as long as you don't

994
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: have a gigantic hole in left field and a big

995
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: hole in the middle of your rotation without Freed and

996
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: Morton and a bottom five shortstop in Orlando Arcia. So yeah,

997
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: we wanted to hit on Tanner Scott. It's interesting to

998
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: me that as so many players have gotten fat paychecks

999
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: this winter. That Tanner, who is clearly the best reliever

1000
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: on the market, has not found a home yet. Maybe

1001
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: his agent over played it and is looking for too

1002
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 2: much money and now he's kind of backed himself into

1003
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: a corner and and who knows where it'll ultimately be.

1004
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: We can also be blown away tomorrow morning that the

1005
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 2: Dodgers have signed Tanner Scott for four years and eighty million,

1006
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: and we all just kind of laugh with could heard

1007
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: through twenty ninety six. And then Jeff Passon defends the

1008
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: Dodgers for the eleventh time this month. U. Yeah, don't.

1009
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, that's your that that's your guy, though, Scott,

1010
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: you're here, that's your guy. Okay, yeah, you're right. I

1011
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: mean we say we say Scott to the end of

1012
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: the podcast because it's it's an interesting situation because they

1013
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: just need so many other things, but he's still out there,

1014
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: and uh he's the only in fact, out of all

1015
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: the positions he talked about, maybe you could say, like

1016
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: Pete a Lownso at first Pacial like that with the

1017
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: Brays don't need Scott's the only premium free agent that's

1018
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: still available. Like the top top top of their own

1019
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: market like relievers. He was number one coming into the

1020
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: all season at the relievers spot and he's still there. Obviously,

1021
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: all the pre guys are gone, you know, Soto signed

1022
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,439
Speaker 1: a Damas signed, Burns Freed, all those guys like, they've

1023
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: all signed now and Snow. But the number one reliever

1024
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: is on the market still. It's just that number one

1025
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: reliever is not And by the way, the projections paint

1026
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: this picture, East Brits to get four four fifty six,

1027
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: that's what a quarter of what Max Freed signed for.

1028
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: So like it's not the same exact hierarchy, and relievers

1029
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: should get paid less. That's just that's the nature of

1030
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: the beasts. But really good ones like Tanner Scott can

1031
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: move mountains for you. And look, if they sign them,

1032
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: we'll turn around and say, hey, the breaks are the

1033
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: best eight ninth inning guys combination in Major League Baseball,

1034
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: And they would the moment they signed Tator Scott. They

1035
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: have the best combination of relievers that the Big two

1036
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: in particular of Scott and places in baseball that'd be,

1037
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: that would be true. How much you value that is

1038
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: up to Alex to the side. But yeah, yeah, so

1039
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: that's the free agent market. AJ Mentor is still out

1040
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: there looking for I still think that could be a

1041
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: reunion at some point, but I'm guessing AJ is looking

1042
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: for the biggest guarantee possible because he should coming off

1043
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: the hip.

1044
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's coming off the hip, and I mean he's mad.

1045
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: He's made money, let's be clear, but he is not

1046
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: someone who has so much money in the bank already

1047
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: that he doesn't care and is willing to take less

1048
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: money to go somewhere else the way that Charlie Morton

1049
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: might or Corbyn Burns might. But yeah, that's the outfield,

1050
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: that's the bullpen, that is the starting pitcher, and that

1051
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 2: is the very small shortstop free agent markets. We wanted

1052
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 2: to quickly kind of hit on those before the calendar

1053
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: flips to twenty twenty five. And who knows, maybe the

1054
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Braves will sign one or two or three of these

1055
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 2: guys soon.

1056
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: Who knows, indeed, Scott, Yeah, this might be our last

1057
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: podcast between me and you in this calendar year. We

1058
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: won't say it definitely will be. The Braves make a signing,

1059
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: We'll come back. If they make a tray will come back.

1060
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: You could even get a Shan Steven appearance. Between now

1061
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: and the final seconds of twenty twenty four. But there

1062
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 1: you go. That's the state of the market right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what the Braves do. We've made ourselves very

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Speaker 1: clear that at the rates, don't do anything in six weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yell it's Scott. Go on social media Blue Sky, Twitter

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Speaker 1: and say, Scott, you told us six weeks it would

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Speaker 1: all be fixed. I'm just kidding. Oh, we should do

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Speaker 1: we should do some some some engagement farming at the

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Speaker 1: end of the podcast. If you made it this far

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, in particular, comments on YouTube and say which

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Speaker 1: of the remaining for agents you want the Braves to sign.

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Speaker 1: Pick one though, one one of the guy who talked

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Speaker 1: about on this podcast, and just say I want them

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Speaker 1: to sign this player. If you just as a present

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Speaker 1: to us, if you made it this far, let us

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Speaker 1: know that you listened this far and comment on YouTube, Scott,

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Speaker 1: anything else you want to add, We went longer than expected,

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Speaker 1: because that's what we always tend to do. Anything you

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Speaker 1: also want to add, if not working folks who are

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Speaker 1: just finding the podcast for the first time at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, find working to be able to

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Speaker 1: find you all of your musings written social media et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a big thank you to everybody who jumped

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00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: on board. This past calendar year was a very interesting

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Speaker 2: one for the podcast. Very suddenly we had the Battery

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Speaker 2: Power Show ended upon us and we ultimately landed with

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Speaker 2: the Foul Territory team here on Hammer Territory and it's

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Speaker 2: been great. I mean seriously rough baseball season aside with

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Speaker 2: a million injuries and slow off season and everything else,

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Speaker 2: it's been really great to have all the support this year.

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Speaker 2: So wishing everybody a very happy and safe new year.

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00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: We will continue to crank out even more shows in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We were just talking earlier today actually

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Speaker 2: about some exciting ideas we have for shows to help

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Speaker 2: bridge the gap between now and spring training. If you

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Speaker 2: want to follow me on socials and tweet me when

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Speaker 2: the Braves do not do things, I am at Scott

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Speaker 2: Coleman fifty five and yeah again, Happy new Year and

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Speaker 2: we'll be back soon with another show.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you would say. You can find me

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Speaker 1: at be od score Outliers on Twitter if you want

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Speaker 1: to yell hello Steven. Anyway, thanks for listening, everybody. Check

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Speaker 1: out Scott on social media, check out the show on

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Speaker 1: social media as well. We were at Hammi Territory, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, threads,

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Speaker 1: all those places. You can find me on Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Louse Guy at BT Rowland. And yeah, we'll have more

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Speaker 1: to come. But I appreciate everyone listening to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: As to Scott As, to Steven as DeShawn, we are

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Speaker 1: very grateful for your support. Keep it up for us

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five because we're gonna be going NonStop

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Speaker 1: even if the Race don't do anything. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Alex to test us necessarily. We'd like to talk about

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Speaker 1: stuff that acts actually happening. But even if the Rays

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Speaker 1: don't do stuff, we were gonna have to do podcasts

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Speaker 1: and find things to talk about, and we'll do player

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Speaker 1: capsules and nail that questions or whatever. We'll grind our

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Speaker 1: way through the AUF Seas. And I promise you but

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the podcast, take your friends about the show,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of twenty twenty four and start at

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Well back again later this week and

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Speaker 1: we'll see you all next time