Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why why? Oh? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness, big
Speaker 1: dong lost cultures calling? So listen, what does it feel
Speaker 1: like exactly to be a sexual icon. I don't know
Speaker 1: about any of this. I don't know about this. When
Speaker 1: I saw you with that hand upon mustache, I was
Speaker 1: it was a story like that had never been told. Well,
Speaker 1: that's a fairy tale and a fantasy, because I will
Speaker 1: never be able to grow a mustache of that shape
Speaker 1: and size and volume because I'm only working with the
Speaker 1: snaggly ones. Mama. The magic they're able to do with surgery.
Speaker 1: Now we could get sort of hair plugs for your face.
Speaker 1: How about that? No way, I'm not getting no plugs
Speaker 1: on my upper lip. It aged you up about fifteen years,
Speaker 1: it really did, and give you this sort of authority
Speaker 1: that was That was I guess intrinsically sexual that I
Speaker 1: think took America by storm. Well, it defined my jawline
Speaker 1: because I think it was able to break like the
Speaker 1: um shapelessness of it, and then it actually like made
Speaker 1: it like, oh it's there. It's like excavated the fucking
Speaker 1: thing for all to see, Like it was Jurassic park
Speaker 1: like they do. They donite They exhumed your face. Yes,
Speaker 1: the fucking mosquito was in the amber all along. It
Speaker 1: was startling to watch. I I really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: An the episode overall was super fun. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a really fun episode. I thought, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to shade them, but the air audience was bad. Actually
Speaker 1: that's not that's not even shade. That's just that's that's
Speaker 1: just how it's been these last four shows. We don't
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. Well, they were dead during
Speaker 1: her monologue, for sure, dead during her monologue, but they
Speaker 1: were just I mean, I don't know, Like I don't
Speaker 1: know these these crowds. I get it though, like there
Speaker 1: it's probably just bizarre them to be there. But they
Speaker 1: they know what it is. They signed up for these tickets.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I'm not. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to like create drama with the drama with the crowds,
Speaker 1: acrimony with the crowds. This is the danger between you
Speaker 1: and me and and and the danger that's in these
Speaker 1: episodes that are just doing me is that we get
Speaker 1: a little too unfiltered. Well, it's because it's us truly
Speaker 1: catching up and also I'm about to I'm about to
Speaker 1: step into another zone because I am going to get
Speaker 1: stoned again. Um, but yeah, absolutely, well that's actually kind
Speaker 1: of my life. I actually have to get my lighter
Speaker 1: hold on. Can you talk to them for a sight? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I was considering smoking reader for this one. But um,
Speaker 1: I'm holding my eight pen in my hand and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it very re pensively. While I tell you
Speaker 1: that I might do it too, I might as well
Speaker 1: join in on. I mean, look, Quimby's dead. Okay, yes,
Speaker 1: we're We're just kind of like this is gonna be
Speaker 1: our memorium for Quimby. No, oh my god, No, does
Speaker 1: Quimby deserve the memorium to you? I mean TV the
Speaker 1: I I just like, how do you feel? You know,
Speaker 1: I've known the writing has been on the wall for
Speaker 1: quite some time, That's right, And I just feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's lots of things I would have
Speaker 1: maybe done differently on their end, but I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not like I don't know how to run a fucking business.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't know anything. But ultimately, end of
Speaker 1: the day, I'm happy that they put game show on.
Speaker 1: I like, what it is on the on the Quimby app,
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to potentially take it out and do
Speaker 1: it as an actual half hour show, which I think
Speaker 1: is what it is. To me. It's just like feels
Speaker 1: jammed into like the seven minute format, And I was
Speaker 1: never excited about the seven minute format. I thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be more eight to ten minutes stuff,
Speaker 1: and then we things ended up getting shorter and shorter,
Speaker 1: but it was ten all from the beginning, I of
Speaker 1: was supposed to be ten, and that actually felt like
Speaker 1: a nice Goldilocks like perfect number. I was excited about
Speaker 1: a ten minute thing, and then a lot of the
Speaker 1: scripted stuff was able to stay at that length, and
Speaker 1: then for whatever reason, the unscripted stuff all got shorter
Speaker 1: and shorter, and that to me, I don't love like
Speaker 1: to to me. Sometimes I watched some of the some
Speaker 1: of the episodes we were doing, and it's just like
Speaker 1: they cut all the breaths out, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this movie this is like moving too fast. So I'm
Speaker 1: excited about potentially doing it somewhere else where it can
Speaker 1: breathe and I can there can be more of the
Speaker 1: relationship stuff with me and Dave and just more of
Speaker 1: us having fun and less like it's moving forward. It's
Speaker 1: moving forward, it's moving forward, because it just felt manic,
Speaker 1: especially like in like an immobile world. Like I guess
Speaker 1: maybe we we we would have liked it as like
Speaker 1: a as like a large consumer base if we were
Speaker 1: actually we're watching it mobile on the go, But then
Speaker 1: the world changed and so we were all kind of
Speaker 1: watching it on our phones inside our houses during the
Speaker 1: second month of the pandemic. I don't know. I feel
Speaker 1: like if there, if there was adjusting to be done
Speaker 1: to sort of suit that new situation, maybe it was
Speaker 1: too late. Um. I feel bad for everyone that works
Speaker 1: there that lost their job, because I think everyone took
Speaker 1: a big risk to work there, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of amazing people that work there that I'm grateful for
Speaker 1: that really cared about our show, and and I like
Speaker 1: our show a lot, and I show and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: But ultimately it's it's sad whenever anything just fails. But
Speaker 1: I will say it's it was hard not to join
Speaker 1: it on a lot of the Quimby jokes over the
Speaker 1: past seven months because I was trying to be a
Speaker 1: company man. Sure you had some liberated tone in your
Speaker 1: tweets I saw ever since, ever since the Quimby announcement. Well,
Speaker 1: I had to. I had to delete them, you did, yeah,
Speaker 1: because Variety like this is was weird. So I tweeted
Speaker 1: like a bunch of jokes about Quimby, like it was
Speaker 1: I was really kidding. I like the tone of my tweet,
Speaker 1: And then like there was this huge paragraph and Variety
Speaker 1: that was me being like they were like a game
Speaker 1: show host Matt Rogers, and I was a little embarrassed that,
Speaker 1: like they were putting this comment from me in Variety
Speaker 1: which was like a joke, And I said, I was
Speaker 1: excited to take it elsewhere, which I am now that
Speaker 1: now that Quimby is not a thing, I'm excited about
Speaker 1: the life of the show going forward. But it just
Speaker 1: I had ended up having to delete the twee it.
Speaker 1: So I guess lesson learned about just tweeting, shooting from
Speaker 1: the hip varieties watching I don't think so, honey, Variety
Speaker 1: for like pulling like just thinking, like making news out
Speaker 1: of people's tweets. I know, I know it sounds normal. Well,
Speaker 1: tweets are the public record, I know, but they've done
Speaker 1: that with me where it's like they've built a whole
Speaker 1: headline around like two things I had written in a day.
Speaker 1: I just I'm just annoyed whenever they do that, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, because that's how I feel about
Speaker 1: it too, where the medium is so stupid and dumb
Speaker 1: and like I'm not meant to be taken seriously in
Speaker 1: the first place at this point, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: who's like really taking Twitter seriously. It's just pure chaos, right,
Speaker 1: It's not even like no one's there to like make
Speaker 1: a career out of like writing jokes on Twitter. And
Speaker 1: it's not like Twitter Bird that was like the peak
Speaker 1: of like comedy job hiring, like outlet you know remember
Speaker 1: that time, Yeah, when it was like, well, what's their
Speaker 1: Twitter following? What's that like? It was kind of felt
Speaker 1: like you could get jobs based on Twitter. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people did. Now it's just like Twitter
Speaker 1: to me, it's like a zoo with no enclosures. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just completely unregulated wild West. Any old fucking
Speaker 1: thing can go on, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 1: like I could say something on this podcast, and you
Speaker 1: could say something on this podcast and no one cares
Speaker 1: because you can literally hear in the human voice like
Speaker 1: some sort of like knowing this or irony, and on
Speaker 1: Twitter you say that same thing and it is a
Speaker 1: whole different thing. I just think we live in a
Speaker 1: very sick world. But whatever. Literally last week we said,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm I'm gonna take the hit on this
Speaker 1: if anyone wants to hit us on this. I said,
Speaker 1: if Megan mccainn comes on the show and he's able
Speaker 1: to charm us and get us to say we actually
Speaker 1: like her, that we would kill ourselves. And know everyone,
Speaker 1: no one picked that up, no one. If we had
Speaker 1: tweeted that, it would have been yeah, forget it, disastrous. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just following up on our conversation from
Speaker 1: last week, so I don't know if I qualify myself
Speaker 1: in a particularly dark place. But it hasn't been like
Speaker 1: a good couple of weeks, so so for me, like
Speaker 1: since last week, I made the mistake because I hadn't
Speaker 1: done this in a while. I was like, I wonder
Speaker 1: if people are still engaging on Twitter about like hot dog.
Speaker 1: So I searched the hashtag hot dog and there was
Speaker 1: this this person said, there's one thing I can't stand
Speaker 1: about hot dog, And I'm sure you know what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about, and they used the hashtag and I respond,
Speaker 1: and I saw the person followed me, and I responded,
Speaker 1: it's me, isn't it, And like a bunch of people
Speaker 1: liked it, and he goes well, and then there was
Speaker 1: replies to the tweet that said is it something that's
Speaker 1: easily excitable? And the person replied it thinks it's a
Speaker 1: lot funnier than it is, and then someone else, and
Speaker 1: then someone else said, yeah, it's mouth could be used
Speaker 1: better if it weren't talking like someone Basically, I should
Speaker 1: be sucking dick instead of talking, hosting a show whatever.
Speaker 1: It's not even that clear because I don't I don't
Speaker 1: even know what the funk they're talking about. And it's
Speaker 1: those fucking d plus jokes quote unquote you you you
Speaker 1: If you said that to Matt's face in the room
Speaker 1: and I was there, I would knock your fucking teeth out.
Speaker 1: So I engaged. So the guy who did the initial tweet, honestly,
Speaker 1: I support you engaging. But yeah, so basically, like, I'm
Speaker 1: fully insane right now and at this point in my life,
Speaker 1: so I was just like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make this person feel really bad. For saying this because
Speaker 1: I saw the person followed me and had recently retweeted me,
Speaker 1: so so I know that they're like someone who hates me.
Speaker 1: So I I literally said, what is it? Is this
Speaker 1: me you're talking about? And the person that originally tweeted goes,
Speaker 1: l O L No, I'm talking about the fact that, um,
Speaker 1: your job is so fun, like I'm so jealous, and
Speaker 1: then he hid their all the replies and I said,
Speaker 1: l O L at you hiding the replies. I'm fully
Speaker 1: in it. I'm fully engaging at this point. So I
Speaker 1: got it d M S because I want him to
Speaker 1: sort of feel what it would feel like if someone
Speaker 1: he targeted online actually saw it. So I said, come on,
Speaker 1: that was mean, and he responded and he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry literally quite literally, it's
Speaker 1: just because I'm jealous. And I was like, why would you?
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't do this, like what is
Speaker 1: for anything other than what I'm just trying to have
Speaker 1: fun and like to make people smile, Like it's like,
Speaker 1: why would you do that? And he he goes, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it was so stupid. I fell into the trap and
Speaker 1: I was like, it is a trap. What trap? What's
Speaker 1: the trap that's laid out for someone like them? Though
Speaker 1: I don't understand anyway. So I was just like I
Speaker 1: felt like I was at that point. We were kind
Speaker 1: of on the same page, and I was kind of saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know this, this it will make you feel so
Speaker 1: much better. It will feel so much better to be
Speaker 1: supportive and positive, because like you used the hashtag you wanted.
Speaker 1: You wanted this in a way, you wanted it to
Speaker 1: be filed away. And he was only apologetic and he
Speaker 1: was like, I'll take it down. He took it down,
Speaker 1: and honestly, I was ended with us kind of being
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm a fan, I liked game show.
Speaker 1: I subscribed to Quimby because of it. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know why I did that. I think it was just
Speaker 1: like you punched back at the thing you like a
Speaker 1: little bit. I was like, okay, that's fine, love you bye.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. I actually don't. I
Speaker 1: reject that apology. I'm so sorry, but that makes zero sense,
Speaker 1: but keep going. I was thinking about it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what to On some level, everyone
Speaker 1: is guilty of this to some extent, Like even last
Speaker 1: week on this podcast, I dragged Kristin Stewart. I was like,
Speaker 1: she's the most grounded actress because she's not doing anything,
Speaker 1: And then I thought to myself, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: it's the same sort of deal. So there's something to
Speaker 1: be to be learned from it on a personal level
Speaker 1: as now, except you didn't like post that clip to
Speaker 1: Twitter and then hashtag. That's the thing is, it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like you know, there's this is the
Speaker 1: fundamental difference is that that person. We're not all guilty
Speaker 1: of this the same level because some it's sometimes you
Speaker 1: and I will get to say a caddy thing to
Speaker 1: each other and keep it to our fucking selves, Okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry that maybe this person in that month
Speaker 1: I've you know, I'll talk about, you know, rowing on
Speaker 1: Great British Bake Off or whatever, and that's like maybe
Speaker 1: the same thing. But I'm not I'm not like hashtag
Speaker 1: and g b b oh. I'm not like making sure
Speaker 1: it gets filed away in the system of this medium
Speaker 1: that like makes it maybe inadvertently seen by someone who's involved.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. Anyway, you were you
Speaker 1: were saying something positive I'm like, so on one, I'm
Speaker 1: so cranky today. I don't disagree with what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but I also think, like when I see that, it's
Speaker 1: just like it just puts a little cloud over your day.
Speaker 1: Of course, And then I literally said the jol the
Speaker 1: other day. I was like, part of me doesn't even
Speaker 1: know if I'm cut out for this if on this
Speaker 1: say literally it's I said to my church, I know
Speaker 1: he's gone through it with like Sonny Side too and etcetera.
Speaker 1: Just being out there. It's like it's a lot when
Speaker 1: you put yourself out there and people can just make
Speaker 1: any old comment, like and you don't know what is
Speaker 1: earned and what's not because you're you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And we laughed about it, but I it
Speaker 1: is like a part of the whole thing. I've literally
Speaker 1: been staring at Trick Mirror and I'm afraid to start
Speaker 1: reading it because I'm afraid of how deep this all goes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. To start, she doesn't just
Speaker 1: talk about um that. She just she talks about like
Speaker 1: the Internet as a concept, which is great, and then
Speaker 1: like the rest of the book sort of is in
Speaker 1: that neighborhood, but just you'll you'll love it. It's great,
Speaker 1: she writes, so well you you you'll really dig it. Reader.
Speaker 1: We're sorry for coming in with like a really cantankerous energy,
Speaker 1: but I think this is something that is sort of
Speaker 1: the theme right now for us because we are kind
Speaker 1: of just sitting at home and watching What's What's What's that?
Speaker 1: I mean, Anna just said, our producer said. This is
Speaker 1: why Phoebe weller Bridge refuses to have social media. She
Speaker 1: says she is too sensitive for the critiques. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: think it's like it's not natural to be this vulnerable
Speaker 1: to critique, you know what I mean? Like the social
Speaker 1: media thing is I did so much like that's the
Speaker 1: thing as as artists, as people who are doing this,
Speaker 1: there's something intrinsic about us that is super sensitive and
Speaker 1: like emotional, and so for us to be this sort
Speaker 1: of aware of what everyone thinks is not natural and
Speaker 1: like people throughout time havn't had to deal with this
Speaker 1: aspect of no um. This is what we talked about
Speaker 1: in therapy this week, where my impulse to like just
Speaker 1: care about what the audience things is rooted in like
Speaker 1: this this thing where it's just it's a result of
Speaker 1: me like prioritizing um an audience response over my own
Speaker 1: like rubric of whether or not I did well. So
Speaker 1: like this week at this show, I mean like I
Speaker 1: didn't have anything in the show that was mine that
Speaker 1: like I wrote, but I was just like I just
Speaker 1: tried not to care as much this. I hope this
Speaker 1: is like a little incremental step in the right direction
Speaker 1: where I was just like, oh, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna like because I still did every now and then,
Speaker 1: but like so it's it's all I'm weaning off of it.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, as long as I feel
Speaker 1: like I did well, then that's all that matters. And
Speaker 1: it is it. It's it's not as simple as that,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's the right way to go.
Speaker 1: And also for me, like growing up and then working
Speaker 1: to to sort of pound the pavement in comedy for
Speaker 1: a while after college, that whole period was for me,
Speaker 1: like me sort of pursuing comedy in a place that
Speaker 1: was laden with shame and like people being like, wait,
Speaker 1: you want to what, Oh you're a comedian, Okay, got it, Well,
Speaker 1: good luck with that, and even like parents being like,
Speaker 1: we don't know about this. Um and then for that
Speaker 1: to suddenly flip and have it be like the only
Speaker 1: source of like accomplishment that I sort of experienced or
Speaker 1: like dealt with. That happened so quickly that I am
Speaker 1: still catching up to that place and I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of working in like a shame world, and so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just want to and like the way that like people,
Speaker 1: certain people define shame is that it's like not wanting
Speaker 1: to know what people say about you when you're not
Speaker 1: in the room, and so I'm kind of like trying
Speaker 1: to like swim up against that and be like, but
Speaker 1: I want to know what people are saying about me
Speaker 1: when I'm not in the room. So I think this
Speaker 1: is so reader, thank you for like listening to us
Speaker 1: sort of indulge ourselves in this conversation. But I think
Speaker 1: it's it's an interesting one to have. It's for me.
Speaker 1: It's so like it's this thing that I'm going through,
Speaker 1: and it does and it does occupy a lot of
Speaker 1: brain space. I think also because of quarantine and not
Speaker 1: having a lot else to do, you're able to just
Speaker 1: sit in one thing because you're not busy, like to
Speaker 1: be like, the only thing I have going on right
Speaker 1: now is a lot is nothing because of quarantines, aggressive
Speaker 1: taking of the things. Yes, I just want to bring
Speaker 1: up one bring it up. This is This is a
Speaker 1: little mean, and it is definitely punching down. And I
Speaker 1: would I might even have been punching down to that
Speaker 1: person who like tweeted it at you who used the
Speaker 1: hashtag No I'm not that wasn't no, No, actually no
Speaker 1: that's not that's not that way. I have no idea
Speaker 1: what to qualify it. And that's why I know it's
Speaker 1: something I don't want to deal with anymore. Sure I
Speaker 1: I saw someone the other day tweet like, God, it's
Speaker 1: I'm all for lgbt Q, I A plus representation and
Speaker 1: POC representation. Not an Asian person by the way. But
Speaker 1: then they say, it's really disappointing that at bow and
Speaker 1: Yang uses like only uses his platform to like perpetuate
Speaker 1: stereotypes about his race and his sexuality or whatever. What
Speaker 1: is going on? So so for a non Asian person
Speaker 1: to be like he's perpetuating stereotypes, like, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to be the person the arbiter of
Speaker 1: what is an Asian stereotype, sir. And then I went
Speaker 1: over to his sucking profile and his bio is like
Speaker 1: a photographer an a gunkle, And I was like, bitch,
Speaker 1: your whole exists is on the nose. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: include gunkle in your you can be a gun. I'm
Speaker 1: don't perpetuate anything about me, like like stagnating the identity
Speaker 1: cause of what being gay is to you, like don't
Speaker 1: like who there is. There is something I kind of
Speaker 1: hate just about the concept of stereotypical just stereotype as
Speaker 1: concept I think is kind of bullshit. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: first of all, it's actually real culture number eighty three.
Speaker 1: You can't be a gun. You can't be gon and criticized.
Speaker 1: Cannot be a gun and criticized at all. You're not
Speaker 1: in that position. You can be a gay uncle criticism
Speaker 1: if you if you self identify as a gun, shut
Speaker 1: the funk up. I don't want to hear what you
Speaker 1: have to say, uncle, unless it's some sort of new
Speaker 1: treat out that's like a gum chocolate. That's what gunkle
Speaker 1: sounds like it should be to me. Unless it's that,
Speaker 1: I don't want to think about it. Gounles. Okay, she's
Speaker 1: arrived at being very stoned. You sound dumb. You sound Um,
Speaker 1: I feel bad that we come in with the dark energy,
Speaker 1: but isn't it you know, and like, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a thing though we are. I am feeling a
Speaker 1: not a depression, but a depression in terms of like
Speaker 1: I U, I don't like to be like this. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's seasonal and maybe and honestly, the
Speaker 1: election is fully now, so that's really what it all is,
Speaker 1: just like the doomsday around the whole situation. Like, readers,
Speaker 1: maybe we should reach out to you right now and
Speaker 1: say this, if you're feeling a malaise and you're feeling
Speaker 1: bad and you're feeling like ship, you are not alone.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that to to sort of funnel it
Speaker 1: into a productive moment. Yes, and we hope you are care.
Speaker 1: There you go, you can. I can. I tell you
Speaker 1: something that made me happy last night. I felt into
Speaker 1: this wormhole, which was watching pop stars and music stars
Speaker 1: watch people cover their songs. Oh yeah, I'm familiar with this.
Speaker 1: To me, this was a serotonin boost mom like because
Speaker 1: watching like the these up and coming artists and singers
Speaker 1: like get the criticism from like like some woman getting
Speaker 1: a like a positive critique from Christina Aguilera on her
Speaker 1: cover of Beautiful. That woman was von Zel Solomon. By
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, it's like von Zell's cover of Beautiful,
Speaker 1: and Christina's like Bonzell. It's amazing your riffs or Whitney esque,
Speaker 1: You're stunning, like your voice is so effortless and beautiful.
Speaker 1: And watching them received that notice from this person they
Speaker 1: obviously idolized was heartwarming, and I celebrate. I believe I
Speaker 1: think it might have been like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: what website it was on, Like I want to say,
Speaker 1: Vogue something like that. That's wrong, Vogue. Um sorry, I've
Speaker 1: I've I've arrived at being stoned and also tired, and
Speaker 1: I don't I was gonna, like make up a fake
Speaker 1: website that you would have found that video on. And
Speaker 1: all I could do, you know, all you could do
Speaker 1: was turn to absolute soup Vogue. I also have you
Speaker 1: seen Okay, never mind, I don't want to get shot,
Speaker 1: but you know what, you know, I am gonna be shady.
Speaker 1: I fell into a seventy three questions wormhole because I
Speaker 1: love seven folks. Seventy three questions. I mean, no bitch,
Speaker 1: why I will get to more at though? Because we've
Speaker 1: both seen and we loved, which the seventy three questions
Speaker 1: did you watch? Girl? I found first of all, there's
Speaker 1: there's Architectural Digest home tours and there's seventy three questions.
Speaker 1: Both of these things are amazing and I want to
Speaker 1: shout out the Architectural Digest hometour of Patrick dem See.
Speaker 1: I am throbbing for him. He has never looked better
Speaker 1: in his life. McDreamy is getting better with age. And
Speaker 1: if you want proof, watch the Architectural Digest home tour
Speaker 1: of Patrick Dempsey. That man is smoking hot. But volgus
Speaker 1: seventy three questions, I unfortunately stumbled upon Neil Patrick Harris
Speaker 1: is and I it was, it was. There was some
Speaker 1: cringe moments. Oh no, okay, So first of all, let's pause.
Speaker 1: Are we are we doing the hashtag hot dog equivalent
Speaker 1: of this with Neil Patrick Harress? Do we have to
Speaker 1: do this every single time we talk about someone who's
Speaker 1: more This is why social media is bad and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it back because we even have to
Speaker 1: have this discussion because let me say something, as Americans,
Speaker 1: as gay Americans, we should be able to say the
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris volus seventy di questions, was cringe, that
Speaker 1: should be an American bright? So social media getting my
Speaker 1: head about about saying that there's a problem. I ra
Speaker 1: u is that question? But I think I already know
Speaker 1: the answer. It's so it is sort of rhetorical in
Speaker 1: a way where I am like, I think that it
Speaker 1: is not like literally this is me and my rhetoric
Speaker 1: and saying that we're not like kind of crossing her
Speaker 1: fingers making sure it gets seen. But but it's because
Speaker 1: we secretly like him, like no, that's so warped to me,
Speaker 1: I will not get over this person. You you you
Speaker 1: you you. If you're listening, I'm going to beat the
Speaker 1: ship out of just kidding. We're just continuing the game
Speaker 1: where we threatened our listeners. And anyway, it crossed the
Speaker 1: line when they said his mouth should be used for
Speaker 1: something else other than talking. I was like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: And then if you're quoting, if you're quoting directly, they
Speaker 1: used it pronouns well, I mean just because they were.
Speaker 1: They guess they really didn't really want it to be vague.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. It was as soon as
Speaker 1: you call someone else and it I'm like you you
Speaker 1: that is literally dehumanizing and you should go fuck yourself,
Speaker 1: you know what. This is the thing, and like, I
Speaker 1: don't have to reserve empathy for every single even as
Speaker 1: a socialist who wants human liberation, I don't have to.
Speaker 1: I don't have to reserve empathy for every single person
Speaker 1: on this planet, especially when they fucking endanger someone else's Okay,
Speaker 1: and that is that I might I might be taking
Speaker 1: this too far, but that but refer to someone as
Speaker 1: an it is a form of endanger ment. Honey, we
Speaker 1: have to we have to delete, So we have to delete.
Speaker 1: It's so bad. This is it's so bad because guess
Speaker 1: we could just be having a whole other discussion. Okay, babe, listen,
Speaker 1: do you know what you know what I've done with
Speaker 1: the Instagram that I think has helped loads loads, loads
Speaker 1: loads on the on the new iOS. So this is
Speaker 1: from my iPhone users on the new I o S.
Speaker 1: There's a thing called the app library where you can
Speaker 1: hide little screens, like you know, certain pages of apps
Speaker 1: you can just hide and so it won't chop on
Speaker 1: your screen. So I deleted Instagram, but I kept it
Speaker 1: in my app library, and then I've turned off notifications
Speaker 1: as well, so those are the two things that have
Speaker 1: to happen, two important things that each sort of helped
Speaker 1: the other. Take it off your home screen and then
Speaker 1: um turn notifications off. So that way I have to
Speaker 1: like consciously pull down my you know, spotlight search and
Speaker 1: then type in Instagram to open it, and then I
Speaker 1: only see like, you know, the notifications that have like
Speaker 1: accumulated since the last time, and then I see like
Speaker 1: a couple d M s maybe, and I'll go, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is all manageable, and it's not me constantly constantly,
Speaker 1: constantly pacifying myself with this stupid fucking app with pictures.
Speaker 1: So that's my little tip to you and to the
Speaker 1: reader's Matt to maybe do that. I mean, I've deleted
Speaker 1: other apps too. I fully deleted the sex dating app
Speaker 1: everyone because it was just so worthless, so worthless, waste
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah. I deleted Ryan because I realized I
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, I only get yeah, you
Speaker 1: were having a Ryan moment. Because Nicole Buyer says this too.
Speaker 1: It's like that she was on the wait list for
Speaker 1: years same. I remember that, and then when she got
Speaker 1: on it, I was she was like, oh, I'm not
Speaker 1: matching with anybody because it's all burners. Who fucking we're
Speaker 1: just burners. I'm sorry anyone who goes to Burning Man,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Um, but that is like the crowd,
Speaker 1: that's like the VI and it's just like so like
Speaker 1: and like the music taste on these people. I gotta
Speaker 1: shut it down. I'm so sorry that you were still
Speaker 1: listening to I can't even make up, but I can't
Speaker 1: even make up a band right now, you're still listening
Speaker 1: to fucking like um passion Pit. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: the thing is exactly no, but we love passion Pit.
Speaker 1: But that's it. N it took you a minute, you really,
Speaker 1: you were soaring in the air there we were in
Speaker 1: and then you not yuck the landing passion Pit and
Speaker 1: the one tend that I feel like I'm dating on
Speaker 1: Tinder in college again, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like it took me back to that place of like,
Speaker 1: let's go grab an I p A. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you literally know what I'm talking about, though,
Speaker 1: I absolutely do, And I do know how many I
Speaker 1: p s I've drank with men. Oh no, too many,
Speaker 1: so many beautiful beautiful voice, your voices, you've never sounded
Speaker 1: better you know before. Thank you for saying that. And
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of my Zip recruiter hook. Yes, you
Speaker 1: might not listen to it on this episode, but if
Speaker 1: you get the first of all, we all we also
Speaker 1: have to talk about the ad choices on Can we
Speaker 1: be transparent for a second. We are getting a lot
Speaker 1: of feedback that the U. S. Military is sort of
Speaker 1: advertising on this podcast. Mama, that's going to be an
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio thing and not allows culture is this thing,
Speaker 1: but we do we we take enough responsibility to to
Speaker 1: flag this to our producers so they can get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of what the hell is going on. Apparently
Speaker 1: with this military ad, this recruitment ad that you only
Speaker 1: do it, but so no one at I Heart knows
Speaker 1: how it made it onto the episode. We've told them
Speaker 1: in the past that we do not want that kind
Speaker 1: of advertising on our on our show. So we're so
Speaker 1: sorry that made its way to your ears. Um Our
Speaker 1: values do not align with the military industrial complex in
Speaker 1: any way. So that there you have it. Oh, so,
Speaker 1: just want to say, if ever there's an ad that's
Speaker 1: like scary, get a lot of listeners saying there's so
Speaker 1: many scary ads on my sculturis that's like the beginning,
Speaker 1: like like a very like sort of in depth description
Speaker 1: of how a murderer happened. I'm very, very very concerned
Speaker 1: about that aspect, and because I want the last cultures,
Speaker 1: this listening experience to be, you know, peaceful, even as
Speaker 1: we threatened to beat this. If ever our audience feels endangered,
Speaker 1: I want that to be very explicitly clear. That's coming
Speaker 1: from us, you know what I mean, not exactly exactly, um,
Speaker 1: but we but but that's full transparency for you. Matt,
Speaker 1: I think was going to bring up how he made
Speaker 1: up a jingle for ZIP recruiter that I think is
Speaker 1: just beautiful. Oh it's to me, it's it's the new bop.
Speaker 1: It's not as good as better help, as better help,
Speaker 1: well you know it will be. We're every ways to
Speaker 1: be saying. I don't think it's as simple as better help. Yeah,
Speaker 1: better help is beautifully simple if you need help better Okay,
Speaker 1: So then this is what I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 1: I began better help. I actually started doing it. Yes,
Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. Sometimes when we say we've used
Speaker 1: things for ads, were lying a peek behind the curtain. No,
Speaker 1: I always try out samples if get them. But um,
Speaker 1: I started using it and it's weird, like you text
Speaker 1: a bunch of the beginning with the with the person,
Speaker 1: and I'm like trying to move it to video, but
Speaker 1: I feel nervous about moving video dating, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe is that like a thing I need to talk
Speaker 1: about the fact that I'm like nervous to move this
Speaker 1: to video. I don't know. No, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: worth talking. I think that's just probably just a procedural
Speaker 1: thing with the app. But yeah, I mean I I
Speaker 1: would say stick with it until you get to the
Speaker 1: video stage, and then even after that, I would say,
Speaker 1: like maybe put in two or three sessions unless you
Speaker 1: immediately know that it's not going to work, that it's
Speaker 1: not I'm kind of like going back and forth about
Speaker 1: it because I feel like the questions have been very general,
Speaker 1: and I think he forgot one big thing that I
Speaker 1: told him, so I was like, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: I might switch. Yeah, if there are mental health professionals
Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles area who can recommend to Matt
Speaker 1: Rodgers someone who is doing telehealth UM sessions. And it's
Speaker 1: also I was gonna sit outside I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that people can go. I think about it though, if
Speaker 1: you went over to someone's house and sat in their
Speaker 1: backyard six ft away, you know what I mean, if
Speaker 1: they have that, I don't know why I picture in
Speaker 1: my head therapist living in these gorgeous homes. I'm picturing
Speaker 1: like my therapist, like a Martha Stewart's style, like eight
Speaker 1: hundred acre home, like like in um Nicole Kidman's seventy
Speaker 1: three Questions that a farm, like a farm Tina Phase
Speaker 1: office in season two of Kimmi Schmidt, when she plays
Speaker 1: a therapist, it's just so gorgeous until she and like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's like t that's like TV therapist, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like like in like a sweater cave. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there Molly's therapist and Insecure, it lives in the most gigantic,
Speaker 1: gorgeous house you've ever seen. And I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: wonder if that was like a deliberate choice, like walks
Speaker 1: regal Lux in the ariest, most naturally lit house I've
Speaker 1: ever ever ever ever ever seen, and I want to
Speaker 1: live there so badly. Like I know, if I did
Speaker 1: therapy in an open room with high ceilings, it would
Speaker 1: be an immediate breakthrough. If I'm doing therapy like in
Speaker 1: a little box, it might take a while. That's right.
Speaker 1: I need to feel. You need to feel the glamour
Speaker 1: and the light, the light. It's true. Natural light's very
Speaker 1: important to me. It's not something that I always I
Speaker 1: just talked about all the time, but natural light's very
Speaker 1: important to me. You haven't brought this up and talk
Speaker 1: about why natural light is important to you. Oh, I
Speaker 1: love it. It's it's I feel more creative when there's
Speaker 1: more natural light. Yes, come on, I can't. That's why
Speaker 1: New York is like not happening. You're always in like
Speaker 1: a like a dim orange light in New York. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like the PM times in New
Speaker 1: York they're not I know they're not. So it's so cramped,
Speaker 1: like every every light feels artificial. That's I guess that's
Speaker 1: another reason why I like l A. It's just more
Speaker 1: in touch with daylight. Oh, we're about to come up.
Speaker 1: We're coming up on daylight savings time. Mother, mother gesture.
Speaker 1: I mean this is really going to function up for me.
Speaker 1: I oh see, I'm like kind of an election is
Speaker 1: gonna The election is gonna happen two days later. I am,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see my moods dip even lower if they
Speaker 1: haven't bottomed out already, dear moods, is November seven the
Speaker 1: last show? Yes? Until yes, getting one in after the election,
Speaker 1: one in after the big event. You know that's gonna
Speaker 1: be something or yeah, we'll see, we'll see. What was
Speaker 1: I gonna bring up? Oh? Um, well, as soon as
Speaker 1: you commit to a therapy fist, I will append my
Speaker 1: end of the well I was going to bring that up.
Speaker 1: The thing is, um, I don't know whether to be
Speaker 1: strided on you with this anymore, because I know that
Speaker 1: you're in a stressful situation and you need your little
Speaker 1: vices so but no, but it is bad for you,
Speaker 1: and I do wish for you to stop, Like I
Speaker 1: wish that you could, you know, get those vices out
Speaker 1: by exercising, you know, like like a fring for a
Speaker 1: brief run, or you know, like cooking a meal or
Speaker 1: drawing a piece of art, like get your stress out
Speaker 1: in one of those healthy ways. But then again, I'm
Speaker 1: just like whatever, no, no, no, I I did that that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make excuses for it, and you
Speaker 1: should hold me accountable as a friend, I'm holding you accountable.
Speaker 1: Then okay, fine, I'm firmly on the other side of it. Now.
Speaker 1: If I even hear whispers and I have other contacts
Speaker 1: at your job that you've been stepping out to take
Speaker 1: a cigarette break, who said this, Reces revealed them. I'm
Speaker 1: I mean, I have you know who my sources are,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't think they're the ones
Speaker 1: that I think are the source. I don't think too hard.
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that she isn't. I'm saying I
Speaker 1: can find out. I have the ability to find out.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she said anything. M but I know.
Speaker 1: The thing is, the thing about me is it always
Speaker 1: gets back to me, and you should fear me, and
Speaker 1: you should fear me. I don't understand the people who
Speaker 1: say that, you know, there's always been people who've been
Speaker 1: like that. I genuinely believe that I always know when
Speaker 1: this is happening. Yeah, I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: Like you like weird everywhere? I'm like, are you checking
Speaker 1: in with I'm like, what is your system of means
Speaker 1: that whenever anyone says that, it means that they are
Speaker 1: a huge ship talker. It means that they personally, in
Speaker 1: their bones have the impulse to gossip. Oh, yes, that's it,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. But we're gossips. We're gossips. But we
Speaker 1: are we are, we are. There's no but and there's
Speaker 1: no reason to qualify it. Yeah. Um, don't tell me nothing.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me nothing. Sometimes when you know what we know,
Speaker 1: there's there's no other recourse but to gossip. You have
Speaker 1: no other option but to gossip. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: spread the word spread. Did you know this a new
Speaker 1: clip lash out? I heard. I was the one who
Speaker 1: texted the threat. I was like, guys, there's a new
Speaker 1: UM and jack Box party pack number seven. We should
Speaker 1: organize um a clip lash moment soon or you know what?
Speaker 1: Like I actually I am at this point now where
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get into video games, like
Speaker 1: but I wonder if that would see it would just
Speaker 1: be another thing to occupy time with. It isn't social
Speaker 1: media while I'm in the house. I agree, if if,
Speaker 1: if you subscribe to replacement theory with or just replacement
Speaker 1: and as a concept in terms of addiction, because I
Speaker 1: do think I feel like I am dealing with this
Speaker 1: with an addiction to social media I can very parallel
Speaker 1: lines it against my addiction to cigarettes that you have
Speaker 1: to you kind of have to replace it with something.
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a great, wonderful, wonderful,
Speaker 1: wonderful option for you. And oh my god, you saying
Speaker 1: that excites me so much. I think that actually I
Speaker 1: haven't said one other thing on the pod that happened,
Speaker 1: which is contributing to all this, I think in a
Speaker 1: major way, which is that I think I can say this,
Speaker 1: Jared and I did break up, But the thing is, like, um,
Speaker 1: it wasn't dramatic or anything or weird or anything, but
Speaker 1: that is something that that happened, and we're still extremely
Speaker 1: close and he was he's literally the best person, but
Speaker 1: it still did happen. And sometimes I I don't remind
Speaker 1: myself that that's true when I'm like wollowing and whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this did just happen. So it just happened.
Speaker 1: And you have been very human and like emotionally in
Speaker 1: touch with yourself and with Jared throughout this whole process,
Speaker 1: so of course you're going to be affected by it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because it just because it wasn't dramatic doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that it's not um impactful, you know, also quarantine, just
Speaker 1: like because when you're in a relationship and quarantine, that's
Speaker 1: like it's the persons in everyday presence in your life.
Speaker 1: And so when that changes, it's like it's still tough.
Speaker 1: Like I keep my heart keeps going out to like
Speaker 1: anyone that's going through a divorce at this time. Like
Speaker 1: sometimes I see that Kelly Clarkson is doing so many
Speaker 1: things and like she's so everywhere right now, and I
Speaker 1: know she's going through that, and I'm just like I
Speaker 1: hope that she this is all productive. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: being like working um so much is like something that's
Speaker 1: really helping her. And like I know she loves her
Speaker 1: kids so much, but I my heart just goes out
Speaker 1: to her and anyone that's like had a substantial, like
Speaker 1: years long relationship that ended because of this, because it
Speaker 1: makes the whole thing feel even more Why the fund
Speaker 1: did we have to go through this? Frustrate it with
Speaker 1: like the fact that there's no leadership, etcetera. This has
Speaker 1: to be such a crazy fucking time, such like a
Speaker 1: cosmic shift that we went through. Seriously, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to add, It's it's just unfortunate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I remember, like, I am grateful that I've
Speaker 1: gotten to work and stuff. So it's just and you're
Speaker 1: working like you're a damn rated. Well, here's here's something
Speaker 1: busy as a damn rat. Here's something I want to
Speaker 1: bring up because I feel like in some way me
Speaker 1: posting about going to work and doing my job is
Speaker 1: it might like stir up emotions in certain people, not
Speaker 1: in the same justifiable ways it would stir up someone
Speaker 1: who would use a hashtag for a show after they whatever.
Speaker 1: I can't get over this person, well because because I
Speaker 1: saw someone, I saw someone posted this and I don't
Speaker 1: know how to feel about this because I can see
Speaker 1: I can see both sides of it. Someone posted um
Speaker 1: a thing sing that I most I generally agree with,
Speaker 1: but they were like um on. I don't remember who,
Speaker 1: but it was an actor someone who um someone noting
Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't I don't even think they were.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter. It's not really They posted something
Speaker 1: on Instagram that was like, hey, guys, for anyone who's
Speaker 1: posting their self tapes right now, just know that it's
Speaker 1: really triggering for people who can't find work as as
Speaker 1: artists and actors and like really start to ask yourself
Speaker 1: who that's for, like blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Is this just like you like trying to like self
Speaker 1: indulge or whatever, which is like that's the whole point
Speaker 1: of social media in a lot of ways, that's one
Speaker 1: function of it. But so I understand that it's triggering
Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, flaunt the fact that you're
Speaker 1: getting opportunities, but even the audition itself is not an
Speaker 1: opportunity and intrinsically but anyway, But then the other side
Speaker 1: of it is like who cares. It's like you're you're
Speaker 1: not like there's just too much and there's too much.
Speaker 1: This is all leading me back, which is there's just
Speaker 1: too much. They're like social media is evil, Like if
Speaker 1: you feel that I shouldn't have to know that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like as as someone who has
Speaker 1: I did it like a bit about a self tape
Speaker 1: once and then you're saying, do I have to feel
Speaker 1: bad about doing that? Like for me, it's just for me.
Speaker 1: Literally everything I post is just to like for people
Speaker 1: that follow me to see it, because I think they'd
Speaker 1: get like something a kick out of it or whatever
Speaker 1: or like or like whatever, like it's not all all
Speaker 1: solely for you, you you know what I mean? Like of
Speaker 1: course it's part of the disease. Like there's vanity in
Speaker 1: the posting of it all and like the sharing of
Speaker 1: it all. But not everything is like nefarious, you know,
Speaker 1: like and doesn't. I just would hope that people that
Speaker 1: are going to say something like that would stop and
Speaker 1: think first about why they need to say that, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like is that something they need
Speaker 1: to say? Yeah? Yeah, kind of. I mean I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't, like, why are you bothered about that? Just
Speaker 1: don't follow the person? You know? Sure, sure, that's the
Speaker 1: choice you can make. Mm hmmmm. And then the message
Speaker 1: that you sent could be in the unfollow of it all.
Speaker 1: But people want to get their voice art And I
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about that person, and I actually should
Speaker 1: should evict that person from my mind, um because but
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They wouldn't be there if it weren't for
Speaker 1: social media. So I don't know, I'm just talking myself
Speaker 1: into eventually getting into it all. But can I tell
Speaker 1: you something that's also like something I feel. It's like
Speaker 1: I can delete social because we have to still promote
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I'm like, you know what, people will
Speaker 1: find the podcast. That's what I'm saying, You will find
Speaker 1: the podcast. And I even had that thought too, where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you know, like is this a weird
Speaker 1: fixture in my social media? Now I'm not a weird
Speaker 1: fixture because this is just something that I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: expected to do every single week, um, And I feel
Speaker 1: like the people who will listen to it will listen
Speaker 1: to it. And I feel like we're even were the
Speaker 1: way we get new listeners. Sorry readers were just talking
Speaker 1: about like growth right now, But the way we get
Speaker 1: new listeners is from like doing other shows and like
Speaker 1: being another things. It's not even it's we're not getting
Speaker 1: more listeners from the posts, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I think that like there's there's like a weird correlation
Speaker 1: I have in my mind with like the existence and
Speaker 1: success of things I'm doing with social media. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like for me, they're like it's that social media
Speaker 1: is important in a way that's not justified, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think there's like something playing in
Speaker 1: and that's just part of the the addiction of it all.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so it's so interesting and funny
Speaker 1: that we're talking about this, because even in the days
Speaker 1: up to recording this episode, I was like, I wonder
Speaker 1: if on the podcast I'll bring up that, like I'm
Speaker 1: fully addicted to social like like it's so taking over
Speaker 1: my life for the past four days. Like that, I
Speaker 1: was like, I wonder if that's something I can even
Speaker 1: be honest about because it's so embarrassing, how all encompassing
Speaker 1: it is. I get why you would be embarrassed by it,
Speaker 1: but it's like, for the most part, people our age
Speaker 1: are kind of that's what it is in similar neighborhoods,
Speaker 1: like in terms of like are the way we engage
Speaker 1: with it. We're all kind of like going for that
Speaker 1: same dopamine hit for the same reasons just about as
Speaker 1: often as anyone else is doing it. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Like I I felt shameful telling my therapist, Oh, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I do this toxic social media behavior this many times
Speaker 1: a day and I check social media this often. And
Speaker 1: then that kind of tied into like my whole impulse
Speaker 1: around like not caring about how I did in something
Speaker 1: or how my work is, like how I self assess
Speaker 1: my work because really, as soon as I walk off
Speaker 1: stage from my own peace, I'm not thinking about how
Speaker 1: I did. I'm not I'm not asking myself, how do
Speaker 1: you think you did? I'm going how are they saying?
Speaker 1: What are they saying? What they saying? What are you saying? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know, also, what I'm realizing right now is
Speaker 1: the relationship you have with social media actually does replace
Speaker 1: relationships that you have with human beings because it's something
Speaker 1: It's a relationship that you care about and like invest in.
Speaker 1: Like every we're all invested in our relationships with social media,
Speaker 1: and it's just weird. And I think says something about
Speaker 1: the current time that like I am on social media
Speaker 1: caring about that aspect of my life. I think a
Speaker 1: lot more than I've talked to our care are actively
Speaker 1: caring about real human relationships in my life that actually matter,
Speaker 1: are meaningful. And that's when I know that we might
Speaker 1: be in a situation here that if you really step
Speaker 1: outside of it is not not going anywhere positive. Exactly.
Speaker 1: I like face time with Joel Kim Booster for the
Speaker 1: first time and in so long last week, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, like this is what like the
Speaker 1: friendship is it's not like me and him checking in
Speaker 1: each on each other's like ends to stories, because even
Speaker 1: not just feels cursory and it feels like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna remember this like little exchange that we had
Speaker 1: in our d MS, like in in two weeks, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like this is like
Speaker 1: the FaceTime conversation is substantive. It lives in the memory
Speaker 1: of the friendship in a more significant way than like
Speaker 1: like a check in over d M is like for
Speaker 1: some reason feels like so watered down. I don't know,
Speaker 1: in my in my mind. So yeah, but you're right,
Speaker 1: it's like we're all invested in in social media as
Speaker 1: if it's a friendship, as if it's a relationship in
Speaker 1: the same way that like New York is the fifth
Speaker 1: character and sex in the City ab so lutely there
Speaker 1: and then it's a huge fucking deal. Like it's like
Speaker 1: it feels like a breakup in the show when Miranda
Speaker 1: fucking goes to Brooklyn, you know what I mean, Like, uh,
Speaker 1: like it's a whole thing. Yeah, but it well, she
Speaker 1: was really being a jerk about Brooklyn, but then when
Speaker 1: she went there, she truly fell in love and Brooklyn
Speaker 1: looked so beautiful and so beautiful in the show she
Speaker 1: like was in Brooklyn Heights. Brooklyn is fucking gorgeous. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's the most beautiful. It's the most beautiful. Did you
Speaker 1: know that? Um? Out of everyone that quote unquote like
Speaker 1: is a regular listener of this podcast, Brooklyn is by
Speaker 1: far the most listeners are in A yeah, see, we
Speaker 1: love we love you Brooklyn, Brooklyn girls, and more people
Speaker 1: in Chicago than l A interesting, we love Chicago, we
Speaker 1: love the Chicago show. I don't think so honey show
Speaker 1: is so fun. Matt wasn't there. I was not there,
Speaker 1: but I heard it was great. God posting with Pat
Speaker 1: is so fun? Is it not? How'm saying with Pat
Speaker 1: is so? I mean, can we just say there is
Speaker 1: not a funnier person on this planet then Pat Reagan
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I miss him. I see, That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. I could be spending this time some of
Speaker 1: more of my time, like seeing what the funk is
Speaker 1: up with Pat? You know what I mean? Figured Pats
Speaker 1: off also Pats figured he's figured it out and he's
Speaker 1: he's he's ever been happier. I think I can speak
Speaker 1: on his behalf. I love that, And I have to
Speaker 1: say also the other thing too, is like I think,
Speaker 1: like ultimately this is we've been doing this for a while,
Speaker 1: and you forget like what a social life means, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that, especially like when it
Speaker 1: was a fixture of our lives for so long, Like
Speaker 1: I don't want to be anxious about seeing other people,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I don't want to
Speaker 1: feel weird about planning a time like it just the
Speaker 1: whole thing is just tough. And see, I don't even
Speaker 1: want to and not to bring this back to this
Speaker 1: dark darkness in our lives. But I don't want my
Speaker 1: social life, for my inner actions to be defined by
Speaker 1: intellectual response to what some fucking idiot says on social
Speaker 1: media about me, Like I don't want that to take
Speaker 1: up any space in mind when you know for sure
Speaker 1: that there are people in your life who fill your
Speaker 1: who fill it with the opposite of that feeling, and
Speaker 1: and it's time you could be spending investing in that
Speaker 1: and not this. But unfortunately, you know, like as we
Speaker 1: saw in the Social Dilemma on Netflix, the this is
Speaker 1: all designed to addict us. You know what, I mean
Speaker 1: so and and it is working very well. And that's
Speaker 1: what they say in the documentary. I can believe it's
Speaker 1: taken us this long and this conversation to bring up
Speaker 1: this documentary because it's so spells out. Why is that
Speaker 1: there is a design element to this. It is addictive
Speaker 1: by nature, and there's ways to get you more and
Speaker 1: more addicted that just because we're humans and we are
Speaker 1: designed to want and need some things, we think we're
Speaker 1: basically slaves to this thing. Yeah, um, I still have
Speaker 1: not finished Social Dilema unfortunately, because I maybe have the
Speaker 1: same attitude that you have towards trick mirror or I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not gonna like what I see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's scary, honestly it's and the thing is I just
Speaker 1: have to fucking get over it. But I just know
Speaker 1: the Social Dilemma like it pretty much spells it all out.
Speaker 1: And if you if it's gonna help anyone step away
Speaker 1: from something toxic, and then I really recommend watching it
Speaker 1: if you need if you're the kind of person who
Speaker 1: needs to be scared, you need to be scared. Freeder.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I've said this to Math so many times,
Speaker 1: but Matt will be obsessed with the essay that she
Speaker 1: writes about when she was on this teen reality show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start reading it right after this. It's the
Speaker 1: second one. You're you're gonna love it. Read it tonight, honestly,
Speaker 1: please do. And it's it's so good. It's and then
Speaker 1: she writes she has one about ecstasy that's so good.
Speaker 1: She has one about like Houston, Texas anyway, Um, I
Speaker 1: was something that we both have watched, though is borat
Speaker 1: subsequent movie film, Wow, yes, now this is I guess
Speaker 1: that pretty much the culture of the week. I would
Speaker 1: say probably at two. And you know, my initial thoughts
Speaker 1: are that it is fucking funny. I definitely thought maybe
Speaker 1: it was a little over long. But the star of
Speaker 1: it all is miss Maria, who plays his daughter, Maria Bakalova.
Speaker 1: I bet I think her name is Oh my god,
Speaker 1: so good. She wasnlie. She to me could take over
Speaker 1: the world, like she's so brave what she has to do.
Speaker 1: Those were some scary situations that those are some scary situations.
Speaker 1: And for her to be in that room alone with
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just talking about the interview portion, for
Speaker 1: her to like fake that entire interaction, like she was
Speaker 1: able to get Rudy to the back of to that
Speaker 1: other room. Yeah. I mean, look, he went in a
Speaker 1: room with that girl. I understand what a lot of
Speaker 1: people are saying about the editing of it all, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: was it edited schoppily like that wants to present something
Speaker 1: as truth. Yes, But the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like saying, like, but the stores that
Speaker 1: burnt down during the protests for George Floyd, It's like, you, guys,
Speaker 1: look at the bigger issue here. He went into a
Speaker 1: back room with this girl and it was like lowlights
Speaker 1: and like we're touching. It was so inappropriate, and also
Speaker 1: he was making an appropriate comments the whole time. Also
Speaker 1: not for nothing, but come on, guys, was he really
Speaker 1: tucking in his shirt? On tucking your shirt or whatever?
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing that he doesn't know enough to
Speaker 1: not be in that situation is very scary. He's one
Speaker 1: of the most powerful people in America right now, and
Speaker 1: that he didn't know enough to not be in a
Speaker 1: situation that even could be presented to us like that
Speaker 1: in any way is really fucked up. He's a creep.
Speaker 1: I'm just amazed by Maria because it's like killed it
Speaker 1: because just I don't know just and she like gave
Speaker 1: you a convincing performance as like this daughter who wants
Speaker 1: to get to know her father, and like that's the
Speaker 1: defining relate. It felt like a Cormick mccartheaster. It felt
Speaker 1: like the Road. It felt like this father daughter like
Speaker 1: traveling together because he's such a genius. He's it's earnest,
Speaker 1: he's they're really playing the characters and so it really works.
Speaker 1: And it's totally so dead on, like they just killed
Speaker 1: it and casting her too, and and like and we
Speaker 1: should just talk about maybe the base like reality of
Speaker 1: Sasha Baron Cohen's characters, which is that they are all yes,
Speaker 1: they are all so offensive, so offensive, and so he
Speaker 1: there's there. You can make an argument for all these
Speaker 1: characters that he should not be playing these characters. But
Speaker 1: but even with Bruno, I'm like, see that's like such
Speaker 1: an extreme characature. I love and I think it works.
Speaker 1: I think it works. I'm like, you know what, and
Speaker 1: he's like actually done as like an actor and a
Speaker 1: performer and like whatever, it's like he has like you
Speaker 1: can tell he's like a done the work as far
Speaker 1: as like knowing who that character is. And I think
Speaker 1: he's even done that with Bora, where it's like he
Speaker 1: like he learned like Kazak, he like learned like the language,
Speaker 1: like to play the I'm not saying that gives him
Speaker 1: a pass, but I'm saying it like he is, he's
Speaker 1: approaching this in a way that kind of warrants some
Speaker 1: some viewing of this. It's also funny. It's like, it's
Speaker 1: also so fucking funny, and that doesn't matter, Like you
Speaker 1: have to earn these things. If he was out here
Speaker 1: doing these things and it was unearned and it wasn't funny,
Speaker 1: they would we would we would know. We would sniff
Speaker 1: that out right away. Especially in the year, you sniff
Speaker 1: that out right away and you're like, oh god, fuck this, dude,
Speaker 1: we're not watching this. I fucking love that they turned
Speaker 1: the sidekicking guy from the first movie into the cat
Speaker 1: into the love seat in the first scene when he
Speaker 1: realized his friends there and the penis. I mean, to me,
Speaker 1: there's almost nothing funnier than in Bruno when the dick
Speaker 1: is swinging around then a little I thought it was
Speaker 1: so fucking funny. I mean two seconds and I was laughing,
Speaker 1: like just as soon as he said like wa wa
Speaker 1: we wah was funny. Unfortunately, they also really they really
Speaker 1: earned in the movie why they were able to even
Speaker 1: do a second one, because I was thinking, like, oh,
Speaker 1: how will they do a second one? He's so famous,
Speaker 1: he can't fool anyone, and then they literally just made
Speaker 1: that part of the plot, like Bora is very famous.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows him, so he's like, I need to just
Speaker 1: and then he gets into guise. Oh so I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but it's just the Bora voice thing. It is funny.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's funny. It's so funny, like my
Speaker 1: life is funny. Again. My wife has always been funny
Speaker 1: to me, and even when people use it ironically, that's
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife is comedy, and that's actually really
Speaker 1: culture number one hundred and four. My wife is comedy, comedy,
Speaker 1: like my mom is so funny. Gene, first of all,
Speaker 1: the story book this where about the girl who touches
Speaker 1: herself and then get swollen China. It's so funny, it's
Speaker 1: so good. And the babysitter what the babysitter will not
Speaker 1: keep you from drowning. You need to learn you're a
Speaker 1: pretty girl. She was like I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this person was genuinely touching and she was concerned and
Speaker 1: so funny. But even even to have Marie, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was like Lynell think. I know Lennelle
Speaker 1: was in the first one and like she kind of
Speaker 1: was like in on it. I don't, I don't don't.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard much about this woman. But I feel
Speaker 1: like even Maria as the daughter like in the car,
Speaker 1: was like playing it so real and grounded, like as
Speaker 1: this girl who's like receiving this like this like kind
Speaker 1: of attention from someone else that's not her father and
Speaker 1: like and like not knowing how to process that. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: there are like some really like human things to this.
Speaker 1: That being said, there were some people on Twitter saying
Speaker 1: they were crying about the ending, and I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey of that. Like, I don't know about crying.
Speaker 1: It's a nice end. It's a heartwarming ending, but ultimately
Speaker 1: it's bore at two and we can't be crying. Here's
Speaker 1: you know what I But maybe maybe maybe it's like
Speaker 1: maybe it's earned. There's some earned emotion because it's like
Speaker 1: it's a fourteen year old character at least like from
Speaker 1: the first movie to now, it's like they've seen Borat
Speaker 1: as a fixture in the culture. I I'm obsessed with Borat.
Speaker 1: I love you. Do you remember the when you remember
Speaker 1: my ap And this was probably bad of him to do,
Speaker 1: but my ap European history teacher told us all to
Speaker 1: go see it. He was we were, We were I
Speaker 1: think fifteen. Yeah. Dr Fernando was like, you guys have
Speaker 1: to check out this movie. I mean you really, you really,
Speaker 1: you really shouldn't go, but like it's gonna be funny,
Speaker 1: and we were. And then this other guy that taught
Speaker 1: the school, who was like the a p U S
Speaker 1: teacher was also like egging in on. And so all
Speaker 1: my friends in high school um went to go see
Speaker 1: it and it was just it was such a cultural
Speaker 1: yeah moment, like Borat took over. It was so funny
Speaker 1: in a real way and shocking. Jesse David Fox tweeted this,
Speaker 1: he was like, my memory of Borat, my memory and
Speaker 1: conception of or perception whatever of Borat was. It was
Speaker 1: this cultural phenom amenon and this gigantic smash hit success
Speaker 1: at the box office, and that made like so much money.
Speaker 1: But then actually, if you look at the returns of
Speaker 1: that week it made it. It didn't really make too
Speaker 1: much money. That's crazy because because it does seem like
Speaker 1: it does seem like this monster hit, like he feels
Speaker 1: just as he feels almost as culturally relevant as Austin Powers,
Speaker 1: which were actually like huge films. And I will say
Speaker 1: a big part of me does miss that type of comedy,
Speaker 1: like big character comedy, like that's done really well. So
Speaker 1: the fact that this is back and people seem to
Speaker 1: be responding to it well, it gives me some hope
Speaker 1: that maybe we'll see some more character driven stuff going forward,
Speaker 1: because when that's done well, it's so fun. It's so fun.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, like, he does this well.
Speaker 1: He does it well. Even when the movie is like
Speaker 1: a total C plus B B minus, like Bruno, it's
Speaker 1: not a great film and it's definite, it just kind
Speaker 1: of loses it loses the plot a little bit, but
Speaker 1: it's sure funny. It's still so funny. I mean, bring
Speaker 1: me guests to Know or whatever. One of the guests
Speaker 1: to Know girls being like abhorted about him, being like
Speaker 1: do we keep it or abort it? And she's like
Speaker 1: abhort it? And then when they were talking about how
Speaker 1: the fetus needed to lose weight. Like, to me, that
Speaker 1: was incredibly funny because he got her to do that
Speaker 1: and that, and it was a comment on what kind
Speaker 1: of play. It's honestly a genius moment in this quote
Speaker 1: unquote screenplay because you immediately get like, this is a
Speaker 1: town where people will do anything to get on, Like
Speaker 1: they will play a game called keep it or abhort it,
Speaker 1: which sets the table. What sets the table for his
Speaker 1: character so well, and the fact that she's a real
Speaker 1: person who we many of us watched the reality show about.
Speaker 1: It's so insane and genius to him to include genius.
Speaker 1: But they are a screen places because the first boar
Speaker 1: At was nominated for the Oscar wasn't it was the
Speaker 1: screenwriting Oscar. Yeah, let me look this up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be good to know. There's been so many
Speaker 1: great comedy films that have not gotten the um the
Speaker 1: screens play Oscar nominations merely just because their comedy. I mean,
Speaker 1: mean girls should have one. Clueless should be a Screenplay
Speaker 1: Award Oscar winner. Oh my god, yes, absolutely, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just been a lot of good good stuff that it
Speaker 1: was nominated for. Best Adapted UM. Although but then they
Speaker 1: departed one of course two seven nine Academy Awards. UM.
Speaker 1: That's like, you know what other comedy nomination screenplay I
Speaker 1: Love My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Oh my god, Nia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she deserved it and it was such a like cultural phenomenon.
Speaker 1: We talked about that that movie almost exclusively on the
Speaker 1: George Severes episode. That's right, wonderful movie. I love that
Speaker 1: nom and also of course Bridesmaids and of course Bridesmaids.
Speaker 1: I feel like this was a successful sequel to which
Speaker 1: was not going to be a given and I feel like, yes,
Speaker 1: like I feel like Sasha Baron Cohen really like stuck
Speaker 1: the landing, just in terms of making this work and
Speaker 1: not like fully questioning its existence or like, I like
Speaker 1: it is a different American now, and it is kind
Speaker 1: of fun to think about Borat in Trump Country and
Speaker 1: what he would respond to. I was also thinking about
Speaker 1: how and I don't mean to be an arc here.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be narky with this, but when
Speaker 1: in the film they're like, it's quarantine, we have to
Speaker 1: shut down, and he likes sort of fully continued, like
Speaker 1: in going to places where where he was not like,
Speaker 1: you know, in a public health sense, advised to be
Speaker 1: with a crew. I was kind of thinking to myself, like,
Speaker 1: at what point is it like kind of shitty that
Speaker 1: he's still doing this. But then I was really happy
Speaker 1: to have the art. But I feel like in the movie,
Speaker 1: this is a spoiler for anybody who hasn't watched this,
Speaker 1: but in the movie when he when like when like
Speaker 1: Lockdown starts, he's he just lives with the two men
Speaker 1: in their cabin. And then it's implied that weeks and
Speaker 1: weeks in Misco because it goes from March, which is
Speaker 1: un Lockdown started, to June, which is when that rally
Speaker 1: happens where he finds his daughter again. EL say, there's
Speaker 1: there's some spoilers. So it's it's implied that Sasha Baron
Speaker 1: Cohen as Borat lived in this house with the crew
Speaker 1: and these two men for three months, which does not
Speaker 1: add up to me. And I feel like maybe those
Speaker 1: men were actors. Yeah, I don't want a nark either,
Speaker 1: but and that shouldn't take away from the sort of
Speaker 1: art that is bor It makes it even more brave.
Speaker 1: Really exactly, Oh, they were not actors and he lived
Speaker 1: with them for five days. Hot executive producer Anna says, Okay, interesting,
Speaker 1: do you remember in Bruno this the orgy thing? When
Speaker 1: he was in that orgy in Bruno when pretending to
Speaker 1: be straight like there was, he literally had infiltrated a
Speaker 1: real orgy. And then he keeps trying to like have
Speaker 1: sex with that one guy and and he's like, pussy,
Speaker 1: why would I suck you when I could suck And
Speaker 1: then the woman's like, he's suing pussy. He would like
Speaker 1: he wants it, doesn't want you, he wants pussy. Okay,
Speaker 1: he wants my pussy. There's on the dirtiest mantress on
Speaker 1: the literally, and then he gets the ship beat out
Speaker 1: of him by that blood lady. I don't know. To me,
Speaker 1: it's like pretty, where is the oscars for him? No?
Speaker 1: Bell Price. I think he is so. I think he's
Speaker 1: so genius. Did you ever see The Dictator? I actually
Speaker 1: have not seen The Dictator because I was a little burnt.
Speaker 1: I was a little burnt out on North Korea comedy
Speaker 1: at the time. I feel like it was right after
Speaker 1: the James franco on, right before it was before really yeah,
Speaker 1: it was before, but it was him and it was
Speaker 1: like um, Jason Manzoo, guess I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was pretty fun too.
Speaker 1: It's not like his best and it was entirely scripted, right,
Speaker 1: that was entirely scripted, and it was not shot like
Speaker 1: a like a mocumentary or like right right, right, Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I just also, bor At bor At nude
Speaker 1: to me is not funny because it's like he's like,
Speaker 1: he's a good body, Sasha Baronne has like like a
Speaker 1: hot bod. Do you think I think a little bit. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't see him sexually, but I appreciate that many do.
Speaker 1: I count myself among the people who see him sexually fit.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's just I can't because the only ever
Speaker 1: time you see him nude pretty much as in the
Speaker 1: boar At outfits. So maybe it's just the outfit not
Speaker 1: being super flattering that's taking it away from me. I
Speaker 1: would love to see him fully nude, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Take off the little thing, get naked only fans, Get
Speaker 1: only fans. I now subscribed to three only fans. Final
Speaker 1: thoughts on bore At two. I felt like it was
Speaker 1: important for us to talk about this. Final thoughts on
Speaker 1: board at two our Sasha Baron Cohen Icon Maria Young
Speaker 1: actress to watch Yes to Me honestly shows like Margot
Speaker 1: Robbie level promise and potential, but with but with a
Speaker 1: more explicitly comedy angle, which is dangerous and we should
Speaker 1: be looking out for her. And she's Bulgarian, Bulgarian actress.
Speaker 1: Well she's a breaking worldwide Yes, yes, and I would
Speaker 1: say a great piece of comedy, though a dad over long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was longer than the first, which I thought was
Speaker 1: in movies are too long, and that's actually a real
Speaker 1: culture number nineteen movies are too long. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's just it's a critique I have with everything amazing
Speaker 1: that he was able to get that Giuliani moment and like,
Speaker 1: have it released the week it did, and have it
Speaker 1: be a like a true Capital s story that dominated
Speaker 1: the news. Did you read the Caroline Giuliani Peace, I
Speaker 1: did not read the Caroline Guliani piece. I heard it.
Speaker 1: I heard it was lovely and she, you know, is
Speaker 1: on the right side of things, rocks. But it's like God,
Speaker 1: like the Ron Paul thing and Bruno is so fucking
Speaker 1: wild and like that was nuts. That was not that
Speaker 1: was like he was like sexually assaulting. Wrong, that was
Speaker 1: exactly what that was. I'm really happy you brought it up,
Speaker 1: because I would hate to not mention that that is true.
Speaker 1: Like that was nuts, but it was the last But
Speaker 1: I couldn't even stop RuPaul, so like the whole thing
Speaker 1: is too much. But the punchline ultimately did make me
Speaker 1: this fall on the ground. Oh, I couldn't even stop RuPaul.
Speaker 1: I love Bruno so much, and this is the thing
Speaker 1: readers like, thank you for meeting us where we're at
Speaker 1: right now, and we love you very much. And I
Speaker 1: think that we are not alone here. And everyone's kind
Speaker 1: of like Jesus Christ the election general general um panic
Speaker 1: about the existence of us all going forward? What is happening?
Speaker 1: So we're there too anyway, So a big old general.
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey to everything. But um, let's
Speaker 1: move into the segment and begin with I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey, I do have one. I have a have
Speaker 1: a premise. Okay, interesting, um, this is Matt's premise based
Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. Okay, maybe it's not a premise.
Speaker 1: I'd have an idea for I don't think so honey. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Matt, I don't think so, honey, And it's
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Mitch McConnell
Speaker 1: being purple, um, he looks dead to me. I have
Speaker 1: been to open casket wakes, seeing people in caskets there
Speaker 1: that look more alive than Miss McConnell. What is going on?
Speaker 1: It literally looks like a curse is keeping him alive.
Speaker 1: There's something deeply going on there. And if we're gonna
Speaker 1: harp and we win in America on the Age of
Speaker 1: Biden and consistently dig into this thing of he's old,
Speaker 1: he's old, he's old, he's seen, he's seen. What exactly
Speaker 1: is going on with your girl, Mitch? Then, because that
Speaker 1: looks haunted, That looks hunted, like the hunt, all the hunt,
Speaker 1: all the houses that aren't haunted because of quarantine. Right
Speaker 1: now are the haunts are all going to Mr McConnell
Speaker 1: and keeping him alive. Chances darn Barney, the Dinah store,
Speaker 1: Darn Barney, the Dinosaore is not as purple as this bitch.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that color and that's one minute.
Speaker 1: Barney the dinosaur, Darn Barney, the dinahsas Barney, darn Barney
Speaker 1: the dinosaur parentheses Matt and bow and get too high
Speaker 1: again for real. This time Matt and Bowing are high
Speaker 1: and tired. No, we can't do Tired culture. Tired culture.
Speaker 1: You were that. You know what you talked about the
Speaker 1: traveling last week that I forgot to bring up you
Speaker 1: are king of I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm
Speaker 1: so tired. I am tired culture. The moment I knew
Speaker 1: culture was for me, the culture that maybe say cultures
Speaker 1: for me was being tired. Tired culture. That's a little
Speaker 1: culture number forty six, Bowen is tired culture. You know
Speaker 1: you actually are the most alive culture of the moment.
Speaker 1: So enjoy it, a bitch. So is it time? It's
Speaker 1: time for me? God? Okay, Bowen, do you have something
Speaker 1: that you're thinking of that you could do a premise? Um?
Speaker 1: I do? I do? Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. This is boone. I don't think so
Speaker 1: Honey's time sharts now. I don't think so Honey, Bacon,
Speaker 1: egg and cheese. You are ruining. I asked so much.
Speaker 1: I why am I eating you every single day? You're
Speaker 1: what's keeping me in this bad, bad bad dietary cycle.
Speaker 1: It's another look. I have a third addiction. Everybody ready
Speaker 1: to hear it? B ec. Okay, b ec is my
Speaker 1: third addiction, worse than a cigarettes because at least there's
Speaker 1: no fucking pork fat in it. Okay you you are
Speaker 1: you listening to me? There's no pork fact work fat
Speaker 1: and processed cheese product um, baconic and cheese. You're You're
Speaker 1: the most delicious thing in the world. And I can't.
Speaker 1: I wish I knew how to quit you. In the
Speaker 1: words of Jake, where was it Heath, It was Jake.
Speaker 1: It was Jake. It was Jake. And I pray that
Speaker 1: one day you lose your status as in your constitution.
Speaker 1: I know that Bodiga is thrive on it, but it's
Speaker 1: really killing our children's and ur in Ore and me
Speaker 1: and you're bowen Yang's and that's one minute. It's killing
Speaker 1: our children's and our bowen yangs. That's actually a lotal
Speaker 1: culture number four prety forty bacon, bacon, egg and cheese.
Speaker 1: It's killing children. And you know, for me, it's sausage
Speaker 1: and cheese. You're a sausage queen. And to quote Pat,
Speaker 1: that's just what works for me and my family. That's
Speaker 1: just what works works for me my family. I feel
Speaker 1: like bacon, if you're a bacon person, that's bottom culture.
Speaker 1: If you're a sausage person, that's top culture. Yeah, to me,
Speaker 1: that makes a lot more sense, um, because bacon is
Speaker 1: sort of like stylized and cute and there's like a twist.
Speaker 1: And sausages just like me and I have them at
Speaker 1: Starbucks every day when I get my get this, don't
Speaker 1: get too hard. Pumpkin spice, cold brew, Um, pumpkin spice cream,
Speaker 1: cold brew and cream, sausage, chicken, cheese on. What I
Speaker 1: think is like I don't know, like a on a on,
Speaker 1: a on, a croissant, bun, croissant, I don't forget what
Speaker 1: it is like it's like a English muffin. I guess
Speaker 1: the thing. Anyway, where are we at right now in
Speaker 1: the discourse with pumpkin spice. I feel like it's the
Speaker 1: backlash to the backlash or the backlash or the backlash
Speaker 1: or whatever is social media comment culture. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't don't know, because I'm saying like the fact
Speaker 1: that it's generally the fact that we can't just enjoy
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice. I know, but I'm saying, like a year
Speaker 1: after year it seems to like swing the other way
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, this year we like it, and
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like, well, guess what, I've always
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Just fine. I'm not I'm not fanatic about it.
Speaker 1: I think every now and then I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a crisp day in October, I'll have a pumpkin
Speaker 1: spice something. You know what. It's very good and that's
Speaker 1: why it's popular. And you can't not like the good
Speaker 1: thing just because a lot of people like it. Like,
Speaker 1: what yet, depriving yourself? Come out of the shadows, darling.
Speaker 1: We're drinking pumpkin spice. Come join. We're all in the
Speaker 1: park drinking pumpkin spice. You can join, You're invited to join.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you? Why do you want to be amongst
Speaker 1: the shadows? Why do you want to be amongst the shadows?
Speaker 1: This is such a good performance. God, you're such a
Speaker 1: You're such a talented orator. You really are you feel
Speaker 1: this way? I of course I do, Matt. I feel
Speaker 1: I'm what I feel u SELESSA Matt? You are so
Speaker 1: you really are a light. I think about you at
Speaker 1: work in my despair, and I smile. I go, oh, Matt,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe yesterday when I was smiling up at
Speaker 1: the TV beaming at Bowe and Yang on Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1: I sometimes just be watching live. I did watch live
Speaker 1: last night. Oh my god, So you were watching when
Speaker 1: I was on when I was literally watching while you
Speaker 1: were on stage, and I was like, this is live television.
Speaker 1: That's both cute, that's fun. Was it fun to sit
Speaker 1: next to Adalla the sketch? It was so fun. She
Speaker 1: was so wonderful. I I just think she's the best,
Speaker 1: and I just I'm I. I feel so honored that
Speaker 1: I got to share it. I got to even share
Speaker 1: a frame with her, even even a good nights. I
Speaker 1: wanted so badly there to be a big surprise that
Speaker 1: she was going to do a song, but then I
Speaker 1: was like, she's clearly not ready. I think she's very
Speaker 1: she's very precious about her work, which is her right,
Speaker 1: and she has every right to be p Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like her work is so the bar
Speaker 1: is so high, can you imagine, Like that's it's so crazy,
Speaker 1: Like she's had literally could it's unprecedented success with her
Speaker 1: last two albums, Like you have to give her time
Speaker 1: to feel good and comfortable with what she's gonna output
Speaker 1: these any of these artists who are releasing music, it's like,
Speaker 1: remember like when She's She's she said that she had
Speaker 1: a whole different album recorded for twenty five but then
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin listened to it and was like me, probably
Speaker 1: you could release this if you wanted to, but I
Speaker 1: don't think you'd be proud of it. And she was like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna re record everything and write completely new songs.
Speaker 1: Like you have these like huge people like weighing in,
Speaker 1: which is like both good and bad. I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: like so stressful, but to have If Rick Rubin was like,
Speaker 1: you should probably think about doing this again, I'd be
Speaker 1: like absolutely, but then it'd be like, I better make
Speaker 1: sure it meets a standard that Rick Rubin has said
Speaker 1: because he appreciates my work or whatever that, whatever their
Speaker 1: relationship is. I'm like, that's something that like is that
Speaker 1: we kind of take for granted in in terms of
Speaker 1: how these artists navigate their their new work. It's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have so many stakeholders in this, which is maybe
Speaker 1: not the best thing, but also at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like you have to think about that rubric constantly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and they're dealing with everything we're talking
Speaker 1: about two on the biggest level, Like, right, we've talked
Speaker 1: about how you know when Adele kind of released that
Speaker 1: photo of her after her weight loss, like the way
Speaker 1: everyone in the world has something to say about it, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not a normal situation for someone to be at
Speaker 1: the center of. So she needs the emotional space to
Speaker 1: be able to create not only just creates what I
Speaker 1: meaning to say, but also exists in the public eye
Speaker 1: in that way. Again, you know what I mean Like that,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's you need a lot of time to
Speaker 1: prepare for something like that, I would imagine, right right right,
Speaker 1: So you gotta let her fly. You gotta be oh
Speaker 1: my god, but literally her like singing her song and
Speaker 1: she sounds fucking album quality, I'm like, and she makes
Speaker 1: it look so easy and it just comes out of
Speaker 1: her effortlessly. Yes, I'm sure it takes effort, but she
Speaker 1: makes it look so well. She's a sucking star. And
Speaker 1: I mean like she she is like like an uncommon
Speaker 1: breed of star. She looks stunning, she sounds gorgeous. Actually,
Speaker 1: the one and only time I've seen Adel alive was
Speaker 1: at SNL. Henry and I went and sat in the
Speaker 1: studio and saw her saying hello, and when we were young,
Speaker 1: we were crying. I mean, she's so beautiful and pure
Speaker 1: to watch perform live and it just feels like such
Speaker 1: a moment, and her songs are so good that, um,
Speaker 1: she's just she really is that star level. She's something else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And even like her, like at the read through reading
Speaker 1: all these scripts, like some of them cold, I'm assuming
Speaker 1: like was so she's a great read, a great performer,
Speaker 1: has great timing. It's like, oh my god, like you're
Speaker 1: you kind of are like the full packet. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I I just I think she's so. I was a
Speaker 1: fan of hers before, but like now I feel like
Speaker 1: she um just for to even have like the curiosity
Speaker 1: and like the um the attitude of like I mean
Speaker 1: is I've always wanted to kind of host, so why
Speaker 1: not do it? I'm like, that's great, Like I I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think that's that's cool. And I thought
Speaker 1: she had a great show, a lot of great sketches
Speaker 1: um from our writers that were very suited to her anyway.
Speaker 1: And you got to shake your little bond Bob. I
Speaker 1: got to shake my little bomb bomb. Yes, that was fun,
Speaker 1: which actually reminds me of a song. Um, And usually
Speaker 1: how we end episodes is with a song. Do you
Speaker 1: feel prepared to do that? You want to put any
Speaker 1: imparting with words of wisdom onto our very good readers,
Speaker 1: I think, UM, don't use any hashtags if you want
Speaker 1: to say something shitty about anybody exactly and let us
Speaker 1: know what you thought of Bore at two. Actually, maybe don't.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I've been doing too much reading. I should
Speaker 1: actually focus on books and not you know, d M
Speaker 1: because I see if I put something out there well,
Speaker 1: the fact that the fact that you can either choose
Speaker 1: to when you when you think of reading, it's like
Speaker 1: books and d ms. I actually have been reading too
Speaker 1: much lately, but it's been d M s. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: switched back to books. It's time that I'm it's it's
Speaker 1: time that I could be using to read a book.
Speaker 1: And I'm reading this great book right now. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm reading this book by Ted Chang. It's called excellation
Speaker 1: is short stories. He's the guy who wrote the short
Speaker 1: story that Arrival is based on, and so it's just wonderful,
Speaker 1: like really super like cerebral, like just in terms of
Speaker 1: like they make you think he's like sci fi stories.
Speaker 1: She is. He has one that's set in like an
Speaker 1: Arabian nights tail within a tail like set up, and
Speaker 1: it's about time travel and it blew my fucking mind
Speaker 1: and loving it. You should read Trick Mirror. Um. So, anyway,
Speaker 1: my message to everybody, to the readers is to literally, hello, read,
Speaker 1: let's read more books. I already feel like a more,
Speaker 1: a better person who does not need to check my
Speaker 1: phone all the time because I want to finish this
Speaker 1: book I'm reading that I'm enjoying. I read more, you
Speaker 1: know what. I was just thinking to myself, what that, um,
Speaker 1: we should do a spooky episode for Halloween. But then
Speaker 1: I realized that that would be this episode. So I
Speaker 1: guess spooky and we can do another spooky episode. I
Speaker 1: think it'll be too late, Oh, then that will release
Speaker 1: on event. I think this episode has been a little spooky. October. Wait,
Speaker 1: what was the song from hocus Pocus that could be
Speaker 1: the one that takes us out no better optop. I'll
Speaker 1: put a spin on you when you can get I
Speaker 1: don't know the words, but it's the worst. And now
Speaker 1: you're good. You can tell she was playing seven or
Speaker 1: like fifteen. It was that, but that was it. That
Speaker 1: was it. She was so good in that role. But
Speaker 1: that character was written in a way that was like
Speaker 1: when she knows a little too much about sex for
Speaker 1: a seven year old. But anyway, rubber she wist in
Speaker 1: every age. Rule of Culture number nine five five