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Speaker 1: seventy three questions, I unfortunately stumbled upon Neil Patrick Harris

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Speaker 1: is and I it was, it was. There was some

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Speaker 1: cringe moments. Oh no, okay, So first of all, let's pause.

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Speaker 1: Are we are we doing the hashtag hot dog equivalent

429
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Speaker 1: of this with Neil Patrick Harress? Do we have to

430
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Speaker 1: do this every single time we talk about someone who's

431
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Speaker 1: more This is why social media is bad and I'm

432
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it back because we even have to

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Speaker 1: have this discussion because let me say something, as Americans,

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Speaker 1: as gay Americans, we should be able to say the

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Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris volus seventy di questions, was cringe, that

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Speaker 1: should be an American bright? So social media getting my

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Speaker 1: head about about saying that there's a problem. I ra

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Speaker 1: u is that question? But I think I already know

439
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Speaker 1: the answer. It's so it is sort of rhetorical in

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Speaker 1: a way where I am like, I think that it

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Speaker 1: is not like literally this is me and my rhetoric

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Speaker 1: and saying that we're not like kind of crossing her

443
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Speaker 1: fingers making sure it gets seen. But but it's because

444
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Speaker 1: we secretly like him, like no, that's so warped to me,

445
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Speaker 1: I will not get over this person. You you you

446
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Speaker 1: you you. If you're listening, I'm going to beat the

447
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Speaker 1: ship out of just kidding. We're just continuing the game

448
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Speaker 1: where we threatened our listeners. And anyway, it crossed the

449
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Speaker 1: line when they said his mouth should be used for

450
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Speaker 1: something else other than talking. I was like, I'm sorry.

451
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Speaker 1: And then if you're quoting, if you're quoting directly, they

452
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Speaker 1: used it pronouns well, I mean just because they were.

453
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Speaker 1: They guess they really didn't really want it to be vague.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. It was as soon as

455
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Speaker 1: you call someone else and it I'm like you you

456
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Speaker 1: that is literally dehumanizing and you should go fuck yourself,

457
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Speaker 1: you know what. This is the thing, and like, I

458
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Speaker 1: don't have to reserve empathy for every single even as

459
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Speaker 1: a socialist who wants human liberation, I don't have to.

460
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Speaker 1: I don't have to reserve empathy for every single person

461
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Speaker 1: on this planet, especially when they fucking endanger someone else's Okay,

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Speaker 1: and that is that I might I might be taking

463
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Speaker 1: this too far, but that but refer to someone as

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Speaker 1: an it is a form of endanger ment. Honey, we

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Speaker 1: have to we have to delete, So we have to delete.

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Speaker 1: It's so bad. This is it's so bad because guess

467
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Speaker 1: we could just be having a whole other discussion. Okay, babe, listen,

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Speaker 1: do you know what you know what I've done with

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Speaker 1: the Instagram that I think has helped loads loads, loads

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Speaker 1: loads on the on the new iOS. So this is

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Speaker 1: from my iPhone users on the new I o S.

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Speaker 1: There's a thing called the app library where you can

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Speaker 1: hide little screens, like you know, certain pages of apps

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Speaker 1: you can just hide and so it won't chop on

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Speaker 1: your screen. So I deleted Instagram, but I kept it

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Speaker 1: in my app library, and then I've turned off notifications

477
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Speaker 1: as well, so those are the two things that have

478
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Speaker 1: to happen, two important things that each sort of helped

479
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Speaker 1: the other. Take it off your home screen and then

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Speaker 1: um turn notifications off. So that way I have to

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Speaker 1: like consciously pull down my you know, spotlight search and

482
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Speaker 1: then type in Instagram to open it, and then I

483
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Speaker 1: only see like, you know, the notifications that have like

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Speaker 1: accumulated since the last time, and then I see like

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Speaker 1: a couple d M s maybe, and I'll go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is all manageable, and it's not me constantly constantly,

487
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Speaker 1: constantly pacifying myself with this stupid fucking app with pictures.

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Speaker 1: So that's my little tip to you and to the

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Speaker 1: reader's Matt to maybe do that. I mean, I've deleted

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Speaker 1: other apps too. I fully deleted the sex dating app

491
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Speaker 1: everyone because it was just so worthless, so worthless, waste

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Speaker 1: of time. Yeah. I deleted Ryan because I realized I

493
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Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, I only get yeah, you

494
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: were having a Ryan moment. Because Nicole Buyer says this too.

495
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Speaker 1: It's like that she was on the wait list for

496
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Speaker 1: years same. I remember that, and then when she got

497
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Speaker 1: on it, I was she was like, oh, I'm not

498
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Speaker 1: matching with anybody because it's all burners. Who fucking we're

499
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Speaker 1: just burners. I'm sorry anyone who goes to Burning Man,

500
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Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Um, but that is like the crowd,

501
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: that's like the VI and it's just like so like

502
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Speaker 1: and like the music taste on these people. I gotta

503
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Speaker 1: shut it down. I'm so sorry that you were still

504
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Speaker 1: listening to I can't even make up, but I can't

505
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Speaker 1: even make up a band right now, you're still listening

506
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Speaker 1: to fucking like um passion Pit. I don't know, but

507
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Speaker 1: the thing is exactly no, but we love passion Pit.

508
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Speaker 1: But that's it. N it took you a minute, you really,

509
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Speaker 1: you were soaring in the air there we were in

510
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Speaker 1: and then you not yuck the landing passion Pit and

511
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Speaker 1: the one tend that I feel like I'm dating on

512
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Speaker 1: Tinder in college again, you know what I mean. It's

513
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Speaker 1: like it took me back to that place of like,

514
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Speaker 1: let's go grab an I p A. You know what

515
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Speaker 1: I mean, Like you literally know what I'm talking about, though,

516
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Speaker 1: I absolutely do, And I do know how many I

517
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Speaker 1: p s I've drank with men. Oh no, too many,

518
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Speaker 1: so many beautiful beautiful voice, your voices, you've never sounded

519
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Speaker 1: better you know before. Thank you for saying that. And

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Speaker 1: I'm really proud of my Zip recruiter hook. Yes, you

521
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Speaker 1: might not listen to it on this episode, but if

522
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Speaker 1: you get the first of all, we all we also

523
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Speaker 1: have to talk about the ad choices on Can we

524
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Speaker 1: be transparent for a second. We are getting a lot

525
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Speaker 1: of feedback that the U. S. Military is sort of

526
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: advertising on this podcast. Mama, that's going to be an

527
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio thing and not allows culture is this thing,

528
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: but we do we we take enough responsibility to to

529
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: flag this to our producers so they can get to

530
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Speaker 1: the bottom of what the hell is going on. Apparently

531
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Speaker 1: with this military ad, this recruitment ad that you only

532
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Speaker 1: do it, but so no one at I Heart knows

533
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: how it made it onto the episode. We've told them

534
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: in the past that we do not want that kind

535
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Speaker 1: of advertising on our on our show. So we're so

536
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: sorry that made its way to your ears. Um Our

537
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 1: values do not align with the military industrial complex in

538
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: any way. So that there you have it. Oh, so,

539
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Speaker 1: just want to say, if ever there's an ad that's

540
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Speaker 1: like scary, get a lot of listeners saying there's so

541
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Speaker 1: many scary ads on my sculturis that's like the beginning,

542
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: like like a very like sort of in depth description

543
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: of how a murderer happened. I'm very, very very concerned

544
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: about that aspect, and because I want the last cultures,

545
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Speaker 1: this listening experience to be, you know, peaceful, even as

546
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: we threatened to beat this. If ever our audience feels endangered,

547
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Speaker 1: I want that to be very explicitly clear. That's coming

548
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: from us, you know what I mean, not exactly exactly, um,

549
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: but we but but that's full transparency for you. Matt,

550
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: I think was going to bring up how he made

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00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: up a jingle for ZIP recruiter that I think is

552
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: just beautiful. Oh it's to me, it's it's the new bop.

553
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: It's not as good as better help, as better help,

554
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: well you know it will be. We're every ways to

555
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: be saying. I don't think it's as simple as better help. Yeah,

556
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: better help is beautifully simple if you need help better Okay,

557
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: So then this is what I wanted to bring up.

558
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: I began better help. I actually started doing it. Yes,

559
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Speaker 1: peek behind the curtain. Sometimes when we say we've used

560
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: things for ads, were lying a peek behind the curtain. No,

561
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: I always try out samples if get them. But um,

562
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: I started using it and it's weird, like you text

563
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Speaker 1: a bunch of the beginning with the with the person,

564
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Speaker 1: and I'm like trying to move it to video, but

565
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: I feel nervous about moving video dating, and I'm like,

566
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Speaker 1: maybe is that like a thing I need to talk

567
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Speaker 1: about the fact that I'm like nervous to move this

568
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Speaker 1: to video. I don't know. No, I don't think it's

569
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Speaker 1: worth talking. I think that's just probably just a procedural

570
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: thing with the app. But yeah, I mean I I

571
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Speaker 1: would say stick with it until you get to the

572
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Speaker 1: video stage, and then even after that, I would say,

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Speaker 1: like maybe put in two or three sessions unless you

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Speaker 1: immediately know that it's not going to work, that it's

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Speaker 1: not I'm kind of like going back and forth about

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Speaker 1: it because I feel like the questions have been very general,

577
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Speaker 1: and I think he forgot one big thing that I

578
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Speaker 1: told him, so I was like, I don't know, maybe

579
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Speaker 1: I might switch. Yeah, if there are mental health professionals

580
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: in the Los Angeles area who can recommend to Matt

581
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers someone who is doing telehealth UM sessions. And it's

582
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Speaker 1: also I was gonna sit outside I mean, I think

583
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: that people can go. I think about it though, if

584
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Speaker 1: you went over to someone's house and sat in their

585
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: backyard six ft away, you know what I mean, if

586
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: they have that, I don't know why I picture in

587
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: my head therapist living in these gorgeous homes. I'm picturing

588
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: like my therapist, like a Martha Stewart's style, like eight

589
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: hundred acre home, like like in um Nicole Kidman's seventy

590
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Speaker 1: three Questions that a farm, like a farm Tina Phase

591
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Speaker 1: office in season two of Kimmi Schmidt, when she plays

592
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Speaker 1: a therapist, it's just so gorgeous until she and like,

593
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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's like t that's like TV therapist, you know,

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00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: it's like like in like a sweater cave. Oh my god,

595
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: there Molly's therapist and Insecure, it lives in the most gigantic,

596
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: gorgeous house you've ever seen. And I'm just like, I

597
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: wonder if that was like a deliberate choice, like walks

598
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: regal Lux in the ariest, most naturally lit house I've

599
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: ever ever ever ever ever seen, and I want to

600
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: live there so badly. Like I know, if I did

601
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: therapy in an open room with high ceilings, it would

602
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: be an immediate breakthrough. If I'm doing therapy like in

603
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: a little box, it might take a while. That's right.

604
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: I need to feel. You need to feel the glamour

605
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: and the light, the light. It's true. Natural light's very

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Speaker 1: important to me. It's not something that I always I

607
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: just talked about all the time, but natural light's very

608
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Speaker 1: important to me. You haven't brought this up and talk

609
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: about why natural light is important to you. Oh, I

610
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: love it. It's it's I feel more creative when there's

611
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: more natural light. Yes, come on, I can't. That's why

612
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: New York is like not happening. You're always in like

613
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Speaker 1: a like a dim orange light in New York. You

614
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like the PM times in New

615
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: York they're not I know they're not. So it's so cramped,

616
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: like every every light feels artificial. That's I guess that's

617
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: another reason why I like l A. It's just more

618
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: in touch with daylight. Oh, we're about to come up.

619
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Speaker 1: We're coming up on daylight savings time. Mother, mother gesture.

620
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Speaker 1: I mean this is really going to function up for me.

621
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Speaker 1: I oh see, I'm like kind of an election is

622
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Speaker 1: gonna The election is gonna happen two days later. I am,

623
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Speaker 1: you're gonna see my moods dip even lower if they

624
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: haven't bottomed out already, dear moods, is November seven the

625
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: last show? Yes? Until yes, getting one in after the election,

626
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Speaker 1: one in after the big event. You know that's gonna

627
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: be something or yeah, we'll see, we'll see. What was

628
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Speaker 1: I gonna bring up? Oh? Um, well, as soon as

629
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Speaker 1: you commit to a therapy fist, I will append my

630
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: end of the well I was going to bring that up.

631
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Speaker 1: The thing is, um, I don't know whether to be

632
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: strided on you with this anymore, because I know that

633
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: you're in a stressful situation and you need your little

634
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: vices so but no, but it is bad for you,

635
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Speaker 1: and I do wish for you to stop, Like I

636
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: wish that you could, you know, get those vices out

637
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Speaker 1: by exercising, you know, like like a fring for a

638
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: brief run, or you know, like cooking a meal or

639
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: drawing a piece of art, like get your stress out

640
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: in one of those healthy ways. But then again, I'm

641
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: just like whatever, no, no, no, I I did that that.

642
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to make excuses for it, and you

643
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: should hold me accountable as a friend, I'm holding you accountable.

644
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: Then okay, fine, I'm firmly on the other side of it. Now.

645
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: If I even hear whispers and I have other contacts

646
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: at your job that you've been stepping out to take

647
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: a cigarette break, who said this, Reces revealed them. I'm

648
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I have you know who my sources are,

649
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't think they're the ones

650
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: that I think are the source. I don't think too hard.

651
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that she isn't. I'm saying I

652
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: can find out. I have the ability to find out.

653
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she said anything. M but I know.

654
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: The thing is, the thing about me is it always

655
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: gets back to me, and you should fear me, and

656
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: you should fear me. I don't understand the people who

657
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: say that, you know, there's always been people who've been

658
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: like that. I genuinely believe that I always know when

659
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: this is happening. Yeah, I'm like, what do you mean?

660
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: Like you like weird everywhere? I'm like, are you checking

661
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: in with I'm like, what is your system of means

662
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: that whenever anyone says that, it means that they are

663
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: a huge ship talker. It means that they personally, in

664
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: their bones have the impulse to gossip. Oh, yes, that's it,

665
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. But we're gossips. We're gossips. But we

666
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: are we are, we are. There's no but and there's

667
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: no reason to qualify it. Yeah. Um, don't tell me nothing.

668
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Don't tell me nothing. Sometimes when you know what we know,

669
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: there's there's no other recourse but to gossip. You have

670
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: no other option but to gossip. I mean, come on,

671
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: spread the word spread. Did you know this a new

672
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: clip lash out? I heard. I was the one who

673
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: texted the threat. I was like, guys, there's a new

674
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: UM and jack Box party pack number seven. We should

675
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: organize um a clip lash moment soon or you know what?

676
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Like I actually I am at this point now where

677
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: I kind of want to get into video games, like

678
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: but I wonder if that would see it would just

679
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: be another thing to occupy time with. It isn't social

680
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: media while I'm in the house. I agree, if if,

681
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: if you subscribe to replacement theory with or just replacement

682
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: and as a concept in terms of addiction, because I

683
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: do think I feel like I am dealing with this

684
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: with an addiction to social media I can very parallel

685
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: lines it against my addiction to cigarettes that you have

686
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: to you kind of have to replace it with something.

687
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a great, wonderful, wonderful,

688
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: wonderful option for you. And oh my god, you saying

689
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: that excites me so much. I think that actually I

690
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: haven't said one other thing on the pod that happened,

691
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: which is contributing to all this, I think in a

692
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: major way, which is that I think I can say this,

693
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Jared and I did break up, But the thing is, like, um,

694
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't dramatic or anything or weird or anything, but

695
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: that is something that that happened, and we're still extremely

696
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: close and he was he's literally the best person, but

697
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: it still did happen. And sometimes I I don't remind

698
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: myself that that's true when I'm like wollowing and whatever,

699
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, this did just happen. So it just happened.

700
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: And you have been very human and like emotionally in

701
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: touch with yourself and with Jared throughout this whole process,

702
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: so of course you're going to be affected by it. Yeah,

703
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: just because it just because it wasn't dramatic doesn't mean

704
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: that it's not um impactful, you know, also quarantine, just

705
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: like because when you're in a relationship and quarantine, that's

706
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 1: like it's the persons in everyday presence in your life.

707
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: And so when that changes, it's like it's still tough.

708
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: Like I keep my heart keeps going out to like

709
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: anyone that's going through a divorce at this time. Like

710
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: sometimes I see that Kelly Clarkson is doing so many

711
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: things and like she's so everywhere right now, and I

712
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: know she's going through that, and I'm just like I

713
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: hope that she this is all productive. I'm sure that

714
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: being like working um so much is like something that's

715
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: really helping her. And like I know she loves her

716
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: kids so much, but I my heart just goes out

717
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: to her and anyone that's like had a substantial, like

718
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: years long relationship that ended because of this, because it

719
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: makes the whole thing feel even more Why the fund

720
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: did we have to go through this? Frustrate it with

721
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: like the fact that there's no leadership, etcetera. This has

722
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: to be such a crazy fucking time, such like a

723
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: cosmic shift that we went through. Seriously, I know, I know,

724
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: I have nothing to add, It's it's just unfortunate. Yeah,

725
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: and then I remember, like, I am grateful that I've

726
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: gotten to work and stuff. So it's just and you're

727
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: working like you're a damn rated. Well, here's here's something

728
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: busy as a damn rat. Here's something I want to

729
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: bring up because I feel like in some way me

730
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: posting about going to work and doing my job is

731
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: it might like stir up emotions in certain people, not

732
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: in the same justifiable ways it would stir up someone

733
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: who would use a hashtag for a show after they whatever.

734
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: I can't get over this person, well because because I

735
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: saw someone, I saw someone posted this and I don't

736
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: know how to feel about this because I can see

737
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: I can see both sides of it. Someone posted um

738
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: a thing sing that I most I generally agree with,

739
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: but they were like um on. I don't remember who,

740
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: but it was an actor someone who um someone noting

741
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't think, I don't I don't even think they were.

742
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: But that doesn't matter. It's not really They posted something

743
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: on Instagram that was like, hey, guys, for anyone who's

744
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: posting their self tapes right now, just know that it's

745
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: really triggering for people who can't find work as as

746
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: artists and actors and like really start to ask yourself

747
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: who that's for, like blah blah blah blah blah blah.

748
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: Is this just like you like trying to like self

749
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: indulge or whatever, which is like that's the whole point

750
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: of social media in a lot of ways, that's one

751
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: function of it. But so I understand that it's triggering

752
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: to like, I don't know, flaunt the fact that you're

753
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: getting opportunities, but even the audition itself is not an

754
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: opportunity and intrinsically but anyway, But then the other side

755
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: of it is like who cares. It's like you're you're

756
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: not like there's just too much and there's too much.

757
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: This is all leading me back, which is there's just

758
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: too much. They're like social media is evil, Like if

759
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: you feel that I shouldn't have to know that, you

760
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like as as someone who has

761
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: I did it like a bit about a self tape

762
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: once and then you're saying, do I have to feel

763
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: bad about doing that? Like for me, it's just for me.

764
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 1: Literally everything I post is just to like for people

765
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: that follow me to see it, because I think they'd

766
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: get like something a kick out of it or whatever

767
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: or like or like whatever, like it's not all all

768
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: solely for you, you you know what I mean? Like of

769
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: course it's part of the disease. Like there's vanity in

770
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: the posting of it all and like the sharing of

771
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: it all. But not everything is like nefarious, you know,

772
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: like and doesn't. I just would hope that people that

773
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: are going to say something like that would stop and

774
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: think first about why they need to say that, you

775
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like is that something they need

776
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: to say? Yeah? Yeah, kind of. I mean I don't think.

777
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't, like, why are you bothered about that? Just

778
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: don't follow the person? You know? Sure, sure, that's the

779
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 1: choice you can make. Mm hmmmm. And then the message

780
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: that you sent could be in the unfollow of it all.

781
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: But people want to get their voice art And I

782
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: can't stop thinking about that person, and I actually should

783
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: should evict that person from my mind, um because but

784
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. They wouldn't be there if it weren't for

785
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: social media. So I don't know, I'm just talking myself

786
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: into eventually getting into it all. But can I tell

787
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: you something that's also like something I feel. It's like

788
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: I can delete social because we have to still promote

789
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: the podcast, and I'm like, you know what, people will

790
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: find the podcast. That's what I'm saying, You will find

791
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: the podcast. And I even had that thought too, where

792
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you know, like is this a weird

793
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: fixture in my social media? Now I'm not a weird

794
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: fixture because this is just something that I'm gonna be

795
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: expected to do every single week, um, And I feel

796
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 1: like the people who will listen to it will listen

797
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: to it. And I feel like we're even were the

798
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: way we get new listeners. Sorry readers were just talking

799
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: about like growth right now, But the way we get

800
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: new listeners is from like doing other shows and like

801
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: being another things. It's not even it's we're not getting

802
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: more listeners from the posts, you know what I'm saying.

803
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: I think that like there's there's like a weird correlation

804
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I have in my mind with like the existence and

805
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: success of things I'm doing with social media. Like I

806
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: feel like for me, they're like it's that social media

807
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: is important in a way that's not justified, you know

808
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think there's like something playing in

809
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: and that's just part of the the addiction of it all.

810
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so it's so interesting and funny

811
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: that we're talking about this, because even in the days

812
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: up to recording this episode, I was like, I wonder

813
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: if on the podcast I'll bring up that, like I'm

814
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: fully addicted to social like like it's so taking over

815
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: my life for the past four days. Like that, I

816
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: was like, I wonder if that's something I can even

817
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: be honest about because it's so embarrassing, how all encompassing

818
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: it is. I get why you would be embarrassed by it,

819
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: but it's like, for the most part, people our age

820
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: are kind of that's what it is in similar neighborhoods,

821
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: like in terms of like are the way we engage

822
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: with it. We're all kind of like going for that

823
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: same dopamine hit for the same reasons just about as

824
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: often as anyone else is doing it. Does that make sense?

825
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Like I I felt shameful telling my therapist, Oh, yeah, well,

826
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: I do this toxic social media behavior this many times

827
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: a day and I check social media this often. And

828
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: then that kind of tied into like my whole impulse

829
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: around like not caring about how I did in something

830
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: or how my work is, like how I self assess

831
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: my work because really, as soon as I walk off

832
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: stage from my own peace, I'm not thinking about how

833
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: I did. I'm not I'm not asking myself, how do

834
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: you think you did? I'm going how are they saying?

835
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: What are they saying? What they saying? What are you saying? Yeah?

836
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: And you know, also, what I'm realizing right now is

837
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: the relationship you have with social media actually does replace

838
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: relationships that you have with human beings because it's something

839
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: It's a relationship that you care about and like invest in.

840
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: Like every we're all invested in our relationships with social media,

841
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: and it's just weird. And I think says something about

842
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: the current time that like I am on social media

843
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: caring about that aspect of my life. I think a

844
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: lot more than I've talked to our care are actively

845
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: caring about real human relationships in my life that actually matter,

846
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: are meaningful. And that's when I know that we might

847
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: be in a situation here that if you really step

848
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: outside of it is not not going anywhere positive. Exactly.

849
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: I like face time with Joel Kim Booster for the

850
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: first time and in so long last week, and I

851
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, like this is what like the

852
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: friendship is it's not like me and him checking in

853
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: each on each other's like ends to stories, because even

854
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: not just feels cursory and it feels like, Okay, I'm

855
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: not gonna remember this like little exchange that we had

856
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: in our d MS, like in in two weeks, you

857
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like this is like

858
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: the FaceTime conversation is substantive. It lives in the memory

859
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: of the friendship in a more significant way than like

860
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: like a check in over d M is like for

861
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: some reason feels like so watered down. I don't know,

862
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: in my in my mind. So yeah, but you're right,

863
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: it's like we're all invested in in social media as

864
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: if it's a friendship, as if it's a relationship in

865
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 1: the same way that like New York is the fifth

866
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: character and sex in the City ab so lutely there

867
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: and then it's a huge fucking deal. Like it's like

868
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: it feels like a breakup in the show when Miranda

869
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: fucking goes to Brooklyn, you know what I mean, Like, uh,

870
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: like it's a whole thing. Yeah, but it well, she

871
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: was really being a jerk about Brooklyn, but then when

872
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: she went there, she truly fell in love and Brooklyn

873
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: looked so beautiful and so beautiful in the show she

874
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: like was in Brooklyn Heights. Brooklyn is fucking gorgeous. It's unbelievable.

875
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: It's the most beautiful. It's the most beautiful. Did you

876
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: know that? Um? Out of everyone that quote unquote like

877
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: is a regular listener of this podcast, Brooklyn is by

878
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: far the most listeners are in A yeah, see, we

879
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: love we love you Brooklyn, Brooklyn girls, and more people

880
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: in Chicago than l A interesting, we love Chicago, we

881
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: love the Chicago show. I don't think so honey show

882
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: is so fun. Matt wasn't there. I was not there,

883
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: but I heard it was great. God posting with Pat

884
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: is so fun? Is it not? How'm saying with Pat

885
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: is so? I mean, can we just say there is

886
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: not a funnier person on this planet then Pat Reagan

887
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I miss him. I see, That's what I'm

888
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: talking about. I could be spending this time some of

889
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: more of my time, like seeing what the funk is

890
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: up with Pat? You know what I mean? Figured Pats

891
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: off also Pats figured he's figured it out and he's

892
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: he's he's ever been happier. I think I can speak

893
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: on his behalf. I love that, And I have to

894
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: say also the other thing too, is like I think,

895
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: like ultimately this is we've been doing this for a while,

896
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: and you forget like what a social life means, you

897
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like that, especially like when it

898
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: was a fixture of our lives for so long, Like

899
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to be anxious about seeing other people,

900
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I don't want to

901
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: feel weird about planning a time like it just the

902
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: whole thing is just tough. And see, I don't even

903
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: want to and not to bring this back to this

904
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: dark darkness in our lives. But I don't want my

905
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: social life, for my inner actions to be defined by

906
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: intellectual response to what some fucking idiot says on social

907
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,959
Speaker 1: media about me, Like I don't want that to take

908
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: up any space in mind when you know for sure

909
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: that there are people in your life who fill your

910
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: who fill it with the opposite of that feeling, and

911
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: and it's time you could be spending investing in that

912
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: and not this. But unfortunately, you know, like as we

913
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: saw in the Social Dilemma on Netflix, the this is

914
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: all designed to addict us. You know what, I mean

915
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,919
Speaker 1: so and and it is working very well. And that's

916
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: what they say in the documentary. I can believe it's

917
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: taken us this long and this conversation to bring up

918
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: this documentary because it's so spells out. Why is that

919
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: there is a design element to this. It is addictive

920
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: by nature, and there's ways to get you more and

921
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: more addicted that just because we're humans and we are

922
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: designed to want and need some things, we think we're

923
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: basically slaves to this thing. Yeah, um, I still have

924
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: not finished Social Dilema unfortunately, because I maybe have the

925
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: same attitude that you have towards trick mirror or I'm like,

926
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not gonna like what I see. Yeah,

927
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: it's scary, honestly it's and the thing is I just

928
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: have to fucking get over it. But I just know

929
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: the Social Dilemma like it pretty much spells it all out.

930
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: And if you if it's gonna help anyone step away

931
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: from something toxic, and then I really recommend watching it

932
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: if you need if you're the kind of person who

933
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: needs to be scared, you need to be scared. Freeder.

934
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry I've said this to Math so many times,

935
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: but Matt will be obsessed with the essay that she

936
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: writes about when she was on this teen reality show.

937
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start reading it right after this. It's the

938
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: second one. You're you're gonna love it. Read it tonight, honestly,

939
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: please do. And it's it's so good. It's and then

940
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: she writes she has one about ecstasy that's so good.

941
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: She has one about like Houston, Texas anyway, Um, I

942
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: was something that we both have watched, though is borat

943
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: subsequent movie film, Wow, yes, now this is I guess

944
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: that pretty much the culture of the week. I would

945
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: say probably at two. And you know, my initial thoughts

946
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: are that it is fucking funny. I definitely thought maybe

947
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: it was a little over long. But the star of

948
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: it all is miss Maria, who plays his daughter, Maria Bakalova.

949
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: I bet I think her name is Oh my god,

950
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: so good. She wasnlie. She to me could take over

951
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: the world, like she's so brave what she has to do.

952
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Those were some scary situations that those are some scary situations.

953
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: And for her to be in that room alone with

954
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just talking about the interview portion, for

955
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: her to like fake that entire interaction, like she was

956
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: able to get Rudy to the back of to that

957
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: other room. Yeah. I mean, look, he went in a

958
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: room with that girl. I understand what a lot of

959
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: people are saying about the editing of it all, Like, yes,

960
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: was it edited schoppily like that wants to present something

961
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: as truth. Yes, But the fact of the matter is,

962
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of like saying, like, but the stores that

963
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: burnt down during the protests for George Floyd, It's like, you, guys,

964
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: look at the bigger issue here. He went into a

965
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: back room with this girl and it was like lowlights

966
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: and like we're touching. It was so inappropriate, and also

967
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 1: he was making an appropriate comments the whole time. Also

968
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: not for nothing, but come on, guys, was he really

969
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: tucking in his shirt? On tucking your shirt or whatever?

970
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing that he doesn't know enough to

971
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: not be in that situation is very scary. He's one

972
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: of the most powerful people in America right now, and

973
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: that he didn't know enough to not be in a

974
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: situation that even could be presented to us like that

975
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: in any way is really fucked up. He's a creep.

976
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm just amazed by Maria because it's like killed it

977
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: because just I don't know just and she like gave

978
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: you a convincing performance as like this daughter who wants

979
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: to get to know her father, and like that's the

980
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: defining relate. It felt like a Cormick mccartheaster. It felt

981
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: like the Road. It felt like this father daughter like

982
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: traveling together because he's such a genius. He's it's earnest,

983
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: he's they're really playing the characters and so it really works.

984
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: And it's totally so dead on, like they just killed

985
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: it and casting her too, and and like and we

986
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: should just talk about maybe the base like reality of

987
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Sasha Baron Cohen's characters, which is that they are all yes,

988
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: they are all so offensive, so offensive, and so he

989
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: there's there. You can make an argument for all these

990
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: characters that he should not be playing these characters. But

991
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: but even with Bruno, I'm like, see that's like such

992
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: an extreme characature. I love and I think it works.

993
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: I think it works. I'm like, you know what, and

994
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: he's like actually done as like an actor and a

995
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: performer and like whatever, it's like he has like you

996
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: can tell he's like a done the work as far

997
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: as like knowing who that character is. And I think

998
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: he's even done that with Bora, where it's like he

999
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 1: like he learned like Kazak, he like learned like the language,

1000
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: like to play the I'm not saying that gives him

1001
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: a pass, but I'm saying it like he is, he's

1002
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: approaching this in a way that kind of warrants some

1003
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: some viewing of this. It's also funny. It's like, it's

1004
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: also so fucking funny, and that doesn't matter, Like you

1005
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: have to earn these things. If he was out here

1006
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: doing these things and it was unearned and it wasn't funny,

1007
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: they would we would we would know. We would sniff

1008
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: that out right away. Especially in the year, you sniff

1009
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: that out right away and you're like, oh god, fuck this, dude,

1010
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: we're not watching this. I fucking love that they turned

1011
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: the sidekicking guy from the first movie into the cat

1012
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: into the love seat in the first scene when he

1013
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: realized his friends there and the penis. I mean, to me,

1014
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: there's almost nothing funnier than in Bruno when the dick

1015
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: is swinging around then a little I thought it was

1016
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: so fucking funny. I mean two seconds and I was laughing,

1017
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: like just as soon as he said like wa wa

1018
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: we wah was funny. Unfortunately, they also really they really

1019
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: earned in the movie why they were able to even

1020
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: do a second one, because I was thinking, like, oh,

1021
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: how will they do a second one? He's so famous,

1022
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: he can't fool anyone, and then they literally just made

1023
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: that part of the plot, like Bora is very famous.

1024
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: Everyone knows him, so he's like, I need to just

1025
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: and then he gets into guise. Oh so I'm sorry,

1026
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: but it's just the Bora voice thing. It is funny.

1027
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's funny. It's so funny, like my

1028
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: life is funny. Again. My wife has always been funny

1029
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: to me, and even when people use it ironically, that's

1030
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: my wife. My wife is comedy, and that's actually really

1031
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: culture number one hundred and four. My wife is comedy, comedy,

1032
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: like my mom is so funny. Gene, first of all,

1033
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: the story book this where about the girl who touches

1034
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: herself and then get swollen China. It's so funny, it's

1035
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: so good. And the babysitter what the babysitter will not

1036
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: keep you from drowning. You need to learn you're a

1037
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,800
Speaker 1: pretty girl. She was like I was like, oh my god,

1038
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: this person was genuinely touching and she was concerned and

1039
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: so funny. But even even to have Marie, I don't

1040
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: know if it was like Lynell think. I know Lennelle

1041
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: was in the first one and like she kind of

1042
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: was like in on it. I don't, I don't don't.

1043
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 1: I haven't heard much about this woman. But I feel

1044
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: like even Maria as the daughter like in the car,

1045
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: was like playing it so real and grounded, like as

1046
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: this girl who's like receiving this like this like kind

1047
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: of attention from someone else that's not her father and

1048
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: like and like not knowing how to process that. I'm like, wait,

1049
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: there are like some really like human things to this.

1050
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: That being said, there were some people on Twitter saying

1051
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: they were crying about the ending, and I don't think

1052
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: so honey of that. Like, I don't know about crying.

1053
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: It's a nice end. It's a heartwarming ending, but ultimately

1054
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: it's bore at two and we can't be crying. Here's

1055
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: you know what I But maybe maybe maybe it's like

1056
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's earned. There's some earned emotion because it's like

1057
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: it's a fourteen year old character at least like from

1058
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Speaker 1: the first movie to now, it's like they've seen Borat

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Speaker 1: as a fixture in the culture. I I'm obsessed with Borat.

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Speaker 1: I love you. Do you remember the when you remember

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Speaker 1: my ap And this was probably bad of him to do,

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00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: but my ap European history teacher told us all to

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00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: go see it. He was we were, We were I

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: think fifteen. Yeah. Dr Fernando was like, you guys have

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: to check out this movie. I mean you really, you really,

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00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: you really shouldn't go, but like it's gonna be funny,

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Speaker 1: and we were. And then this other guy that taught

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Speaker 1: the school, who was like the a p U S

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Speaker 1: teacher was also like egging in on. And so all

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Speaker 1: my friends in high school um went to go see

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00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: it and it was just it was such a cultural

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Speaker 1: yeah moment, like Borat took over. It was so funny

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Speaker 1: in a real way and shocking. Jesse David Fox tweeted this,

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Speaker 1: he was like, my memory of Borat, my memory and

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00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: conception of or perception whatever of Borat was. It was

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00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: this cultural phenom amenon and this gigantic smash hit success

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00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: at the box office, and that made like so much money.

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Speaker 1: But then actually, if you look at the returns of

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Speaker 1: that week it made it. It didn't really make too

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Speaker 1: much money. That's crazy because because it does seem like

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Speaker 1: it does seem like this monster hit, like he feels

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: just as he feels almost as culturally relevant as Austin Powers,

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00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: which were actually like huge films. And I will say

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Speaker 1: a big part of me does miss that type of comedy,

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: like big character comedy, like that's done really well. So

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00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: the fact that this is back and people seem to

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00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: be responding to it well, it gives me some hope

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00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: that maybe we'll see some more character driven stuff going forward,

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Speaker 1: because when that's done well, it's so fun. It's so fun.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, like, he does this well.

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Speaker 1: He does it well. Even when the movie is like

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Speaker 1: a total C plus B B minus, like Bruno, it's

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00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: not a great film and it's definite, it just kind

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: of loses it loses the plot a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: it's sure funny. It's still so funny. I mean, bring

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Speaker 1: me guests to Know or whatever. One of the guests

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Speaker 1: to Know girls being like abhorted about him, being like

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Speaker 1: do we keep it or abort it? And she's like

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: abhort it? And then when they were talking about how

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Speaker 1: the fetus needed to lose weight. Like, to me, that

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Speaker 1: was incredibly funny because he got her to do that

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Speaker 1: and that, and it was a comment on what kind

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Speaker 1: of play. It's honestly a genius moment in this quote

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Speaker 1: unquote screenplay because you immediately get like, this is a

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Speaker 1: town where people will do anything to get on, Like

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Speaker 1: they will play a game called keep it or abhort it,

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Speaker 1: which sets the table. What sets the table for his

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Speaker 1: character so well, and the fact that she's a real

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Speaker 1: person who we many of us watched the reality show about.

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Speaker 1: It's so insane and genius to him to include genius.

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Speaker 1: But they are a screen places because the first boar

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Speaker 1: At was nominated for the Oscar wasn't it was the

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Speaker 1: screenwriting Oscar. Yeah, let me look this up. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: that would be good to know. There's been so many

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Speaker 1: great comedy films that have not gotten the um the

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Speaker 1: screens play Oscar nominations merely just because their comedy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: mean girls should have one. Clueless should be a Screenplay

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Speaker 1: Award Oscar winner. Oh my god, yes, absolutely, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: just been a lot of good good stuff that it

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Speaker 1: was nominated for. Best Adapted UM. Although but then they

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Speaker 1: departed one of course two seven nine Academy Awards. UM.

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Speaker 1: That's like, you know what other comedy nomination screenplay I

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Speaker 1: Love My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Oh my god, Nia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she deserved it and it was such a like cultural phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that that movie almost exclusively on the

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Speaker 1: George Severes episode. That's right, wonderful movie. I love that

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Speaker 1: nom and also of course Bridesmaids and of course Bridesmaids.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this was a successful sequel to which

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Speaker 1: was not going to be a given and I feel like, yes,

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01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: like I feel like Sasha Baron Cohen really like stuck

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01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: the landing, just in terms of making this work and

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01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: not like fully questioning its existence or like, I like

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01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: it is a different American now, and it is kind

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Speaker 1: of fun to think about Borat in Trump Country and

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Speaker 1: what he would respond to. I was also thinking about

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01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: how and I don't mean to be an arc here.

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01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be narky with this, but when

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Speaker 1: in the film they're like, it's quarantine, we have to

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01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: shut down, and he likes sort of fully continued, like

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01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,959
Speaker 1: in going to places where where he was not like,

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01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, in a public health sense, advised to be

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Speaker 1: with a crew. I was kind of thinking to myself, like,

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01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: at what point is it like kind of shitty that

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01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: he's still doing this. But then I was really happy

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01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: to have the art. But I feel like in the movie,

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01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: this is a spoiler for anybody who hasn't watched this,

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01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: but in the movie when he when like when like

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01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: Lockdown starts, he's he just lives with the two men

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: in their cabin. And then it's implied that weeks and

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: weeks in Misco because it goes from March, which is

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01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: un Lockdown started, to June, which is when that rally

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01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: happens where he finds his daughter again. EL say, there's

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01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: there's some spoilers. So it's it's implied that Sasha Baron

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Speaker 1: Cohen as Borat lived in this house with the crew

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Speaker 1: and these two men for three months, which does not

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Speaker 1: add up to me. And I feel like maybe those

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: men were actors. Yeah, I don't want a nark either,

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01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: but and that shouldn't take away from the sort of

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01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 1: art that is bor It makes it even more brave.

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Speaker 1: Really exactly, Oh, they were not actors and he lived

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Speaker 1: with them for five days. Hot executive producer Anna says, Okay, interesting,

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Speaker 1: do you remember in Bruno this the orgy thing? When

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Speaker 1: he was in that orgy in Bruno when pretending to

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: be straight like there was, he literally had infiltrated a

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Speaker 1: real orgy. And then he keeps trying to like have

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Speaker 1: sex with that one guy and and he's like, pussy,

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01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: why would I suck you when I could suck And

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01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: then the woman's like, he's suing pussy. He would like

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01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: he wants it, doesn't want you, he wants pussy. Okay,

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01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: he wants my pussy. There's on the dirtiest mantress on

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Speaker 1: the literally, and then he gets the ship beat out

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Speaker 1: of him by that blood lady. I don't know. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's like pretty, where is the oscars for him? No?

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Speaker 1: Bell Price. I think he is so. I think he's

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Speaker 1: so genius. Did you ever see The Dictator? I actually

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01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: have not seen The Dictator because I was a little burnt.

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 1: I was a little burnt out on North Korea comedy

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Speaker 1: at the time. I feel like it was right after

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Speaker 1: the James franco on, right before it was before really yeah,

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: it was before, but it was him and it was

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 1: like um, Jason Manzoo, guess I thought it was great.

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01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was pretty fun too.

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01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: It's not like his best and it was entirely scripted, right,

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 1: that was entirely scripted, and it was not shot like

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Speaker 1: a like a mocumentary or like right right, right, Oh

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01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: my god. I just also, bor At bor At nude

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01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: to me is not funny because it's like he's like,

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01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: he's a good body, Sasha Baronne has like like a

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Speaker 1: hot bod. Do you think I think a little bit. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him sexually, but I appreciate that many do.

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01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 1: I count myself among the people who see him sexually fit.

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01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's just I can't because the only ever

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Speaker 1: time you see him nude pretty much as in the

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Speaker 1: boar At outfits. So maybe it's just the outfit not

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01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: being super flattering that's taking it away from me. I

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: would love to see him fully nude, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Take off the little thing, get naked only fans, Get

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Speaker 1: only fans. I now subscribed to three only fans. Final

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Speaker 1: thoughts on bore At two. I felt like it was

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Speaker 1: important for us to talk about this. Final thoughts on

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Speaker 1: board at two our Sasha Baron Cohen Icon Maria Young

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01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: actress to watch Yes to Me honestly shows like Margot

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01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: Robbie level promise and potential, but with but with a

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01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 1: more explicitly comedy angle, which is dangerous and we should

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: be looking out for her. And she's Bulgarian, Bulgarian actress.

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Speaker 1: Well she's a breaking worldwide Yes, yes, and I would

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Speaker 1: say a great piece of comedy, though a dad over long. Yeah,

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01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: it was longer than the first, which I thought was

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01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: in movies are too long, and that's actually a real

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Speaker 1: culture number nineteen movies are too long. But you know,

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Speaker 1: that's just it's a critique I have with everything amazing

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Speaker 1: that he was able to get that Giuliani moment and like,

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Speaker 1: have it released the week it did, and have it

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Speaker 1: be a like a true Capital s story that dominated

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Speaker 1: the news. Did you read the Caroline Giuliani Peace, I

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Speaker 1: did not read the Caroline Guliani piece. I heard it.

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Speaker 1: I heard it was lovely and she, you know, is

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Speaker 1: on the right side of things, rocks. But it's like God,

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: like the Ron Paul thing and Bruno is so fucking

1220
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: wild and like that was nuts. That was not that

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01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: was like he was like sexually assaulting. Wrong, that was

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: exactly what that was. I'm really happy you brought it up,

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01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: because I would hate to not mention that that is true.

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01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 1: Like that was nuts, but it was the last But

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01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't even stop RuPaul, so like the whole thing

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: is too much. But the punchline ultimately did make me

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: this fall on the ground. Oh, I couldn't even stop RuPaul.

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 1: I love Bruno so much, and this is the thing

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Speaker 1: readers like, thank you for meeting us where we're at

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Speaker 1: right now, and we love you very much. And I

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01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: think that we are not alone here. And everyone's kind

1232
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: of like Jesus Christ the election general general um panic

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Speaker 1: about the existence of us all going forward? What is happening?

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01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: So we're there too anyway, So a big old general.

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Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey to everything. But um, let's

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Speaker 1: move into the segment and begin with I don't think

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01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: so honey, I do have one. I have a have

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Speaker 1: a premise. Okay, interesting, um, this is Matt's premise based

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Speaker 1: I don't think, so honey. Okay, maybe it's not a premise.

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01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: I'd have an idea for I don't think so honey. Okay,

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01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: this is Matt, I don't think so, honey, And it's

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Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Mitch McConnell

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01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 1: being purple, um, he looks dead to me. I have

1244
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 1: been to open casket wakes, seeing people in caskets there

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: that look more alive than Miss McConnell. What is going on?

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: It literally looks like a curse is keeping him alive.

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01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,799
Speaker 1: There's something deeply going on there. And if we're gonna

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: harp and we win in America on the Age of

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: Biden and consistently dig into this thing of he's old,

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01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: he's old, he's old, he's seen, he's seen. What exactly

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01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: is going on with your girl, Mitch? Then, because that

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: looks haunted, That looks hunted, like the hunt, all the hunt,

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: all the houses that aren't haunted because of quarantine. Right

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01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: now are the haunts are all going to Mr McConnell

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: and keeping him alive. Chances darn Barney, the Dinah store,

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01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: Darn Barney, the Dinosaore is not as purple as this bitch.

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01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that color and that's one minute.

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: Barney the dinosaur, Darn Barney, the dinahsas Barney, darn Barney

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01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: the dinosaur parentheses Matt and bow and get too high

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: again for real. This time Matt and Bowing are high

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Speaker 1: and tired. No, we can't do Tired culture. Tired culture.

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Speaker 1: You were that. You know what you talked about the

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: traveling last week that I forgot to bring up you

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01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: are king of I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 1: so tired. I am tired culture. The moment I knew

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01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: culture was for me, the culture that maybe say cultures

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: for me was being tired. Tired culture. That's a little

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01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: culture number forty six, Bowen is tired culture. You know

1269
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: you actually are the most alive culture of the moment.

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01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: So enjoy it, a bitch. So is it time? It's

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: time for me? God? Okay, Bowen, do you have something

1272
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: that you're thinking of that you could do a premise? Um?

1273
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: I do? I do? Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, Okay,

1274
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: here we go. This is boone. I don't think so

1275
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 1: Honey's time sharts now. I don't think so Honey, Bacon,

1276
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: egg and cheese. You are ruining. I asked so much.

1277
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: I why am I eating you every single day? You're

1278
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: what's keeping me in this bad, bad bad dietary cycle.

1279
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: It's another look. I have a third addiction. Everybody ready

1280
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: to hear it? B ec. Okay, b ec is my

1281
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: third addiction, worse than a cigarettes because at least there's

1282
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: no fucking pork fat in it. Okay you you are

1283
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: you listening to me? There's no pork fact work fat

1284
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: and processed cheese product um, baconic and cheese. You're You're

1285
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: the most delicious thing in the world. And I can't.

1286
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: I wish I knew how to quit you. In the

1287
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: words of Jake, where was it Heath, It was Jake.

1288
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: It was Jake. It was Jake. And I pray that

1289
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: one day you lose your status as in your constitution.

1290
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: I know that Bodiga is thrive on it, but it's

1291
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: really killing our children's and ur in Ore and me

1292
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 1: and you're bowen Yang's and that's one minute. It's killing

1293
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: our children's and our bowen yangs. That's actually a lotal

1294
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 1: culture number four prety forty bacon, bacon, egg and cheese.

1295
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: It's killing children. And you know, for me, it's sausage

1296
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: and cheese. You're a sausage queen. And to quote Pat,

1297
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: that's just what works for me and my family. That's

1298
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: just what works works for me my family. I feel

1299
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,719
Speaker 1: like bacon, if you're a bacon person, that's bottom culture.

1300
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: If you're a sausage person, that's top culture. Yeah, to me,

1301
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,439
Speaker 1: that makes a lot more sense, um, because bacon is

1302
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: sort of like stylized and cute and there's like a twist.

1303
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: And sausages just like me and I have them at

1304
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 1: Starbucks every day when I get my get this, don't

1305
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: get too hard. Pumpkin spice, cold brew, Um, pumpkin spice cream,

1306
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: cold brew and cream, sausage, chicken, cheese on. What I

1307
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: think is like I don't know, like a on a on,

1308
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: a on, a croissant, bun, croissant, I don't forget what

1309
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: it is like it's like a English muffin. I guess

1310
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: the thing. Anyway, where are we at right now in

1311
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: the discourse with pumpkin spice. I feel like it's the

1312
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: backlash to the backlash or the backlash or the backlash

1313
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 1: or whatever is social media comment culture. No, no, no, no, no,

1314
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 1: I don't don't know, because I'm saying like the fact

1315
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: that it's generally the fact that we can't just enjoy

1316
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: pumpkin spice. I know, but I'm saying, like a year

1317
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: after year it seems to like swing the other way

1318
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, this year we like it, and

1319
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm like and I'm like, well, guess what, I've always

1320
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Just fine. I'm not I'm not fanatic about it.

1321
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: I think every now and then I'll be like, oh,

1322
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: it's a crisp day in October, I'll have a pumpkin

1323
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: spice something. You know what. It's very good and that's

1324
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: why it's popular. And you can't not like the good

1325
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: thing just because a lot of people like it. Like,

1326
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: what yet, depriving yourself? Come out of the shadows, darling.

1327
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: We're drinking pumpkin spice. Come join. We're all in the

1328
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 1: park drinking pumpkin spice. You can join, You're invited to join.

1329
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you? Why do you want to be amongst

1330
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 1: the shadows? Why do you want to be amongst the shadows?

1331
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 1: This is such a good performance. God, you're such a

1332
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:23,599
Speaker 1: You're such a talented orator. You really are you feel

1333
01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:28,520
Speaker 1: this way? I of course I do, Matt. I feel

1334
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm what I feel u SELESSA Matt? You are so

1335
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: you really are a light. I think about you at

1336
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: work in my despair, and I smile. I go, oh, Matt,

1337
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe yesterday when I was smiling up at

1338
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: the TV beaming at Bowe and Yang on Saturday Night Live.

1339
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: I sometimes just be watching live. I did watch live

1340
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: last night. Oh my god, So you were watching when

1341
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 1: I was on when I was literally watching while you

1342
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 1: were on stage, and I was like, this is live television.

1343
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: That's both cute, that's fun. Was it fun to sit

1344
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 1: next to Adalla the sketch? It was so fun. She

1345
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 1: was so wonderful. I I just think she's the best,

1346
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: and I just I'm I. I feel so honored that

1347
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: I got to share it. I got to even share

1348
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: a frame with her, even even a good nights. I

1349
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: wanted so badly there to be a big surprise that

1350
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: she was going to do a song, but then I

1351
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: was like, she's clearly not ready. I think she's very

1352
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: she's very precious about her work, which is her right,

1353
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: and she has every right to be p Yeah, that's

1354
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like her work is so the bar

1355
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: is so high, can you imagine, Like that's it's so crazy,

1356
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: Like she's had literally could it's unprecedented success with her

1357
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: last two albums, Like you have to give her time

1358
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: to feel good and comfortable with what she's gonna output

1359
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: these any of these artists who are releasing music, it's like,

1360
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: remember like when She's She's she said that she had

1361
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: a whole different album recorded for twenty five but then

1362
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: Rick Rubin listened to it and was like me, probably

1363
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 1: you could release this if you wanted to, but I

1364
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: don't think you'd be proud of it. And she was like, Okay, well,

1365
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna re record everything and write completely new songs.

1366
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: Like you have these like huge people like weighing in,

1367
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 1: which is like both good and bad. I'm sure it's

1368
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: like so stressful, but to have If Rick Rubin was like,

1369
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: you should probably think about doing this again, I'd be

1370
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 1: like absolutely, but then it'd be like, I better make

1371
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: sure it meets a standard that Rick Rubin has said

1372
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 1: because he appreciates my work or whatever that, whatever their

1373
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: relationship is. I'm like, that's something that like is that

1374
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: we kind of take for granted in in terms of

1375
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 1: how these artists navigate their their new work. It's like, oh, yeah,

1376
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: you have so many stakeholders in this, which is maybe

1377
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: not the best thing, but also at the same time,

1378
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: it's like you have to think about that rubric constantly. Yeah,

1379
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, and they're dealing with everything we're talking

1380
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: about two on the biggest level, Like, right, we've talked

1381
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: about how you know when Adele kind of released that

1382
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: photo of her after her weight loss, like the way

1383
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: everyone in the world has something to say about it, Like,

1384
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: that's not a normal situation for someone to be at

1385
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: the center of. So she needs the emotional space to

1386
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: be able to create not only just creates what I

1387
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 1: meaning to say, but also exists in the public eye

1388
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: in that way. Again, you know what I mean Like that,

1389
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: it's it's it's you need a lot of time to

1390
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: prepare for something like that, I would imagine, right right right,

1391
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: So you gotta let her fly. You gotta be oh

1392
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: my god, but literally her like singing her song and

1393
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: she sounds fucking album quality, I'm like, and she makes

1394
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: it look so easy and it just comes out of

1395
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: her effortlessly. Yes, I'm sure it takes effort, but she

1396
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: makes it look so well. She's a sucking star. And

1397
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean like she she is like like an uncommon

1398
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,879
Speaker 1: breed of star. She looks stunning, she sounds gorgeous. Actually,

1399
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: the one and only time I've seen Adel alive was

1400
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: at SNL. Henry and I went and sat in the

1401
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: studio and saw her saying hello, and when we were young,

1402
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: we were crying. I mean, she's so beautiful and pure

1403
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: to watch perform live and it just feels like such

1404
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: a moment, and her songs are so good that, um,

1405
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: she's just she really is that star level. She's something else. Yeah,

1406
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 1: And even like her, like at the read through reading

1407
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: all these scripts, like some of them cold, I'm assuming

1408
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 1: like was so she's a great read, a great performer,

1409
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,679
Speaker 1: has great timing. It's like, oh my god, like you're

1410
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: you kind of are like the full packet. I don't know,

1411
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: I I just I think she's so. I was a

1412
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: fan of hers before, but like now I feel like

1413
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: she um just for to even have like the curiosity

1414
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: and like the um the attitude of like I mean

1415
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: is I've always wanted to kind of host, so why

1416
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: not do it? I'm like, that's great, Like I I

1417
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: don't know, I think that's that's cool. And I thought

1418
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: she had a great show, a lot of great sketches

1419
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: um from our writers that were very suited to her anyway.

1420
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: And you got to shake your little bond Bob. I

1421
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: got to shake my little bomb bomb. Yes, that was fun,

1422
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: which actually reminds me of a song. Um, And usually

1423
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: how we end episodes is with a song. Do you

1424
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: feel prepared to do that? You want to put any

1425
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 1: imparting with words of wisdom onto our very good readers,

1426
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: I think, UM, don't use any hashtags if you want

1427
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: to say something shitty about anybody exactly and let us

1428
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: know what you thought of Bore at two. Actually, maybe don't.

1429
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I've been doing too much reading. I should

1430
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 1: actually focus on books and not you know, d M

1431
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: because I see if I put something out there well,

1432
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: the fact that the fact that you can either choose

1433
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: to when you when you think of reading, it's like

1434
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: books and d ms. I actually have been reading too

1435
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: much lately, but it's been d M s. I'm gonna

1436
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: switched back to books. It's time that I'm it's it's

1437
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: time that I could be using to read a book.

1438
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: And I'm reading this great book right now. Oh my god,

1439
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm reading this book by Ted Chang. It's called excellation

1440
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: is short stories. He's the guy who wrote the short

1441
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: story that Arrival is based on, and so it's just wonderful,

1442
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: like really super like cerebral, like just in terms of

1443
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: like they make you think he's like sci fi stories.

1444
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: She is. He has one that's set in like an

1445
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: Arabian nights tail within a tail like set up, and

1446
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: it's about time travel and it blew my fucking mind

1447
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: and loving it. You should read Trick Mirror. Um. So, anyway,

1448
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 1: my message to everybody, to the readers is to literally, hello, read,

1449
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: let's read more books. I already feel like a more,

1450
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: a better person who does not need to check my

1451
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 1: phone all the time because I want to finish this

1452
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: book I'm reading that I'm enjoying. I read more, you

1453
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 1: know what. I was just thinking to myself, what that, um,

1454
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: we should do a spooky episode for Halloween. But then

1455
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: I realized that that would be this episode. So I

1456
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 1: guess spooky and we can do another spooky episode. I

1457
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: think it'll be too late, Oh, then that will release

1458
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: on event. I think this episode has been a little spooky. October. Wait,

1459
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: what was the song from hocus Pocus that could be

1460
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 1: the one that takes us out no better optop. I'll

1461
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: put a spin on you when you can get I

1462
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know the words, but it's the worst. And now

1463
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: you're good. You can tell she was playing seven or

1464
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: like fifteen. It was that, but that was it. That

1465
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: was it. She was so good in that role. But

1466
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: that character was written in a way that was like

1467
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: when she knows a little too much about sex for

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