WEBVTT - Segment 2: Roster Comparisons

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Drive, our number two here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers Nation Radio and.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt five days a week now.

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<v Speaker 1>But you saying, you know, if if we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>music playing over top of the show, which was happening

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<v Speaker 1>live in the live version, is if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this recording and you hear us talking about music being

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<v Speaker 1>that's not going to happen on the recording.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently even clarify that more. I know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>you tuned in at for you know cut time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>probably a high traffic time. But you'll hear our thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast without Ozzie and Jerk that was only

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<v Speaker 2>on the live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, if you don't want to hear what Steve Perry's

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts were, uh, the cutdowns at least should have they

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<v Speaker 1>they at least could have played long way to the

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<v Speaker 1>top on on DV. You know they're going to play

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<v Speaker 1>over top of us.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need to explain that because the Drive

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<v Speaker 2>is growing so fast and you can should continue to

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<v Speaker 2>spread the word.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were not a original listener, that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get that reference. That is basically the theme song

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<v Speaker 2>to the drive until the bagpipes come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, we always had the way for the bagpipes

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<v Speaker 1>to come on.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is pretty deep into the song by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the way the thing was cut though, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like a thirty second clip of long

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<v Speaker 1>way to the top, and then you went to the bagpipes.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit hard and then Matt and Dale boom right right

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<v Speaker 2>in your face like this, like angus.

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<v Speaker 1>I missed that.

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<v Speaker 2>I missed that too. Yeah, that was good stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>the whole music would be our friend. You can live

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<v Speaker 2>with AUSI or bagpipes or whatever. But okay, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>So looking at the Steelers roster now as compared to

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<v Speaker 1>what it was last year at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, it's gonna be better. I mean, if we go

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<v Speaker 2>position by position, I'm sure most of the time we

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<v Speaker 2>will pick now.

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<v Speaker 1>So quarterback, nothing changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing changes, but it's better right you.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick it has twelve or thirteen games under his belt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is an analyst. I feel much better about

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<v Speaker 2>Pickett now than three or six five days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question, I'm still shocked his over unders. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the those kinds of sites, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two hundred yards and eighteen and a half touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Really low, ridiculously low. I mean almost has to get

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<v Speaker 2>hurt for that to happen. Yeah, I mean almost had

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<v Speaker 2>or get benched.

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<v Speaker 1>Which isn't going to happen, right right, running back, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel less about Mason or Trubisky. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean at all, No, not at all the same dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, running back. Last year, at this time it was

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<v Speaker 1>Najee Harris, Benny Snell, Jalen Warren and Derek Watt. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>this time last year, we don't really know what Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Warren was. We know much more about Jalen Warren now

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<v Speaker 1>than we did a year ago at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed Snell has a little bit of value as a

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<v Speaker 2>special teamer, right, Watt has value as a special teamer.

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<v Speaker 2>But we didn't put Hayward in that conversation. I'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>have Hayward than what Yeah, but Kimott will count Hayward twice.

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<v Speaker 1>McFarlane will gives you a little bit of more of

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<v Speaker 1>a dynamic playmaker.

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<v Speaker 2>This is probably more of a next week conversation. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder who the inactives are, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't start that, I know, But Todd thing you sued

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<v Speaker 1>to drive me nuts on the pregame show. Let's guess

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<v Speaker 1>the inactives why they're inactive. I don't care who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That gets relevant for McFarland though. I mean, like we

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<v Speaker 2>watched all the practices of camp and he was heavily involved. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think they want him on game day.

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<v Speaker 1>They would they wouldn't they would.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that whether that can just don't know right.

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<v Speaker 1>That becomes the issue. A wide receiver a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>was Deontay Johnson, Chase Claypool, George Pickens, Calvin Austen, who

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<v Speaker 1>then went on Ir Gunner, Al Chefsky, Miles Boyke, and

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Simms say.

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<v Speaker 2>I like this group so much better. But when we

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<v Speaker 2>do these things, I do my best to remember what

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<v Speaker 2>one year ago Matt thought. You know, like I like

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Robinson right now, but when we do this a

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<v Speaker 2>year from now, I might be like, why did I

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<v Speaker 2>like Alan Robinson so much? You know, my thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>Claypool then versus my thoughts on Robinson now are probably similar.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean one's not going to work out and

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<v Speaker 2>one is. But you definitely feel better about Pickens. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>an know more about.

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<v Speaker 1>See I feel better about Robinson versus Clay Pill to

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<v Speaker 1>me is night and day Robinson. I know now, Robinson's

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<v Speaker 1>been a guy, He's been a thirteen hundred yard receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been one hundred catch guy. And he's not that

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<v Speaker 1>guy now.

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<v Speaker 2>But we didn't hate Claypool a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was knowing what I know now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he wasn't coming off a great he was

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<v Speaker 1>coming off a bad year last year. Two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>it was.

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<v Speaker 2>And Austin is on the roster now and wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't then.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Huge. I feel actually feel better about Gunner Rolf Chewsky

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<v Speaker 1>now than I did a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I never loved Sims either, And yeah, he's just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And Boyken is a special team guy. He's hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>bay maybe better like he is really good? He should

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<v Speaker 1>he should be in the running for a Pro Bowl. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>special teams guy this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes, yes, yes, he might be their best special teamer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he is maybe, it's yeah, I mean those

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<v Speaker 1>guys are either they're they're smart, they understand what they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to do and tough. Miles Boykin on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>isn't fair.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean little five nine guys trying to jam

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<v Speaker 2>him on punts and.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>He beats them up. Yeah, and he gets sound feel fast.

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<v Speaker 1>He's everything on special teams that Chase Claypool was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be when they drafted him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and more, yeah and more. Yeah. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think Alan Robins is gonna be a boss, That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I just think he's a He is more. He's

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<v Speaker 1>much more accomplished at that at this point in his

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<v Speaker 1>career than Chase Claypol maybe ever will be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Claypole will never have an Alan Robinson career. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but also.

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<v Speaker 1>He's never gonna have a single Alan Robinson season season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But if Robinson ends up with the season was

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<v Speaker 2>a three or four hundred yard guy and replaced by

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<v Speaker 2>Austin these things happened, they do him as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Tight end is Pat Friarmouth is Zach Gentry and

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Hayward a year ago. Well, now you've saw about

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<v Speaker 1>Gentry four.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course now Washington ball with Hayward now than then. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of these guys were rookies year ago. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>they were the youngest offense in the League, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just told you what they think of Washington versus Gentry. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Washington is a lot more upside too.

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<v Speaker 1>The offensive line group a year ago at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>Mason Cole, Kevin Dotson, Kendrick Green, James Daniels, Chucks a

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<v Speaker 1>corps for Jesse Davis, j C. Hassenauer.

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<v Speaker 2>Left guard was not still a competition, but you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>set at left guard.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was Kevin Dotson beating out Dendrick Green

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<v Speaker 1>for the starting left guard job. And that line actually

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<v Speaker 1>got better as the season went on, it did. How

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<v Speaker 1>much better is it going to be now with Isaac

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<v Speaker 1>Samlo in there and these guys all having another year's

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<v Speaker 1>experience playing together.

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<v Speaker 2>Let alone the Herbigs of the world, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>a early to mid first round pick just sitting there, Marinatean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and someday he's gonna be a delicious steak,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So I mean that way better.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, way better. Yeah better, because frankly, the end

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<v Speaker 2>of season O line was much better than the three

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five day line. Yeah, so they got better.

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<v Speaker 1>That was still the biggest question mark going into last season.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I in the first half of the season

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<v Speaker 1>did nothing to like, Oh that's better. No.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest fear one year ago to the day was

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to know if Picket's good or not

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<v Speaker 2>because he can't because they can't block form, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like we won't even get a proper evaluation of the

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<v Speaker 2>first round pick because the blocking will be a chambles.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. On the defensive line last year, at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Tyson Ilululu, Cam Hayward, Larry Ogan, Jobi, Chris Warmly,

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah louder Milk, Montrevius Adams, de Marvin Leel.

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<v Speaker 2>To be fair, I was I didn't see Ilululu's crash

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<v Speaker 2>coming at this point last year, Nor did I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was a solid starter, good player.

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<v Speaker 1>Normally was coming off a seven sack season.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally was impressive. You know, you're excited about lel. But

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<v Speaker 2>this group's better, Yeah, of course, And who knows. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean hate to say it, but what if Cam falls

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<v Speaker 2>off this year? Then you'd have to revisit that thought.

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<v Speaker 2>But as it stands right now, I don't I see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that he plays such a He's like

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<v Speaker 1>he's I said this before, he's that old guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you play at the gym who's got the old man

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<v Speaker 1>game that he can't figure out how he got those

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<v Speaker 1>shots off, but he does it every time the ball

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<v Speaker 1>goes up and he gets the rebound because he's perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>places himself. He can't jump a lick, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>He just knows how to play the game.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only thing I don't like about that analogy

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<v Speaker 2>is the old man game isn't always the best player

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<v Speaker 2>on the court, and Cam still the best player court. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's still shock dunking on your head. Well there's finer points.

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<v Speaker 1>There's that. An outside linebacker a year ago, at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Watt was coming off Defense Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Alex Highsmith, who's coming off a six sacks season.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was a I won't say question mark

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<v Speaker 2>or a concern, but he was not as proven as

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<v Speaker 2>he is down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Derek Tuska and maliek Reid, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when they traded for Reid. I thought this wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a bad.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he had done some things in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't a seventh round pick. They gave hump, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and he didn't work out great. But Tuska wouldn't even

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<v Speaker 2>sniff this roster right now.

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<v Speaker 1>No, nor would Reed, nor would read either one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys are making this rush.

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<v Speaker 2>No, maybe Reid would have convinced you to keep five. Maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>but none of them cracked the top four, so clearly

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<v Speaker 2>much better it.

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<v Speaker 1>Inside linebacker it was Devin Bush, Miles Jack, Robert Splaine,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Robinson, and then they after they placed Demante kz

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<v Speaker 1>on Ir, they signed back Marcus Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, as a course special I mean say one about Allen,

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<v Speaker 2>but he had value as a teamer. I had hoped

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<v Speaker 2>for Jack one year ago. I mean, if I'm being fair,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Bush had a chance to rebound his career.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he got a cup by Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>there not, but there's a lot of rumors he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to But clearly I'll take this version over what

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<v Speaker 2>we knew happened last year. Yeah, I mean Elaine was

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<v Speaker 2>never for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was should what he should have been was

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<v Speaker 1>a core special teams guy, not somebody who's playing every

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<v Speaker 1>snap late in the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, And none of this will go to play.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean most of us won't go to plan come

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<v Speaker 2>Week twelve thirteen this upcoming year. But if Blaine's are

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<v Speaker 2>every down linebacker. You've got issues. Yeah, and they had.

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<v Speaker 1>Issued like if if if land and Roberts is that guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If a Landon Roberts is week fourteen, is playing one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent of the snaps, it's a much better situation

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<v Speaker 1>than Roberts Blaine playing one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not ideal either way.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all that. It's not what you want at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of August. That's not. But it's better than Blaine

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<v Speaker 2>playing every down.

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<v Speaker 1>At cornerbacks and Mark Robinson, he's had a year under

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<v Speaker 1>his belt. Yeah. At cornerback a year ago, at this

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<v Speaker 1>time it was Cam Sutton, a Kello Weatherspoon, Levi Wallace,

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<v Speaker 1>James Pierre, Arthur Mallett.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't dislike Spoon on the team. I'm just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think how I thought then. I've always been a

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<v Speaker 2>Sutton guy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember when they opened the season, it was

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<v Speaker 1>Sutton and Witherspoon who were the starters. Witherspoon or Wallace

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<v Speaker 1>was coming off the bench, and then James Pierre barely

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<v Speaker 1>played it all and Arthur Mallett was the nickel at

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<v Speaker 1>Sutton changed.

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<v Speaker 2>I still like this group better but of all the

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<v Speaker 2>guys we've brought up from that roster, I'd love that

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<v Speaker 2>Sutton would be still be here. And I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 2>that they screwed that up. I mean I like their

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<v Speaker 2>approach that they took, and the money Sutton got was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty high. But if you could add one dude, it's gone,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there were some other things in play there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They just it wasn't gonna happen, and it wasn't wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, it wasn't because Cam Sutton. They didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>Cam Sutton. Cam Sutton had other things going on in

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<v Speaker 1>his life that he wanted to be in Detroit, in Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>so player though, Yeah, at safety you were to go

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<v Speaker 1>at this time, it was makea Fitzpatrick, Terrell Edmonds, Trey Norwood,

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Killerbrew and demonte Kz.

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<v Speaker 2>My twenty twenty two thoughts on Edmunds were greater than

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<v Speaker 2>my twenty twenty three thoughts on Neil. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a wash.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind I mean really, I mean really, all you really

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<v Speaker 1>did there was trade out Edmunds and Norwood for Kean.

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<v Speaker 2>O'Neil and sort of Riley.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I guess Riley factors in there.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel better about Mekea Fitzpatrick than I maybe

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<v Speaker 1>ever be four Like he was kind of remember a

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<v Speaker 1>year ago at this time, he didn't make He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>all prony and didn't make the Pro Bowl in twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two A great player.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he's a great player, but he didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>quite as good as he was coming off an injury

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<v Speaker 1>plague season a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, now I think he's considered the top safety

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<v Speaker 2>and the best safety and that was up for conversation

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<v Speaker 2>or yeah, okay, like he is clearly the number one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's number one. I mean he's ahead of Darwin

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, yeah Simmons and those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I feel like, remember at this time last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Casey was hurt the KZ make the final. He did,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they placed him on IR and he missed

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<v Speaker 1>so they could bring him back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he was a spot Like in this day

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<v Speaker 2>last year, we knew he was not going to play

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<v Speaker 2>for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we didn't know how long that was going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, no, I think it is better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then the specialists are the specialist.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hope Boz has a better year. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at this yesterday, start working with my stat

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<v Speaker 2>pack and stuff. I didn't really, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he missed five games. I was thinking it was like three. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it was forgot that part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was troublesome. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>they missed more field goals than any other team in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. They also attempted more field goals than any

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<v Speaker 1>other team in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd like to see more shots, yeah, yeah, more touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Are more touchdowns, and don't rely so much on the kickers.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you do send the kicker out there, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see Boswell get back to his ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were like seventy eight last year. Yeah percent.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're at ninety, well that's I don't know, twelve

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<v Speaker 2>significant points.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah whatever, it is, right, significant. So that was the

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<v Speaker 1>roster from last year compared to the roster from this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We think it's better.

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<v Speaker 2>We think it's better. I think most years you'll think

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<v Speaker 2>it's better.

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<v Speaker 1>Than last you should. But if you're a Rams doon't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the Arizona Cardinals right now, you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't, right, right, Brady? I mean, yeah, So the

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<v Speaker 2>way that this team is structured. It's trending that way,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the goal. I mean, that's when you're young

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not losing. They're not set to lose a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of free agents after the year, and maybe Ogan,

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<v Speaker 2>Jobie and Robinson we look back and we're like, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they were shot ye, but then you replace him with

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<v Speaker 2>Benton and Austin. You know, it's not like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we're gonna take a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

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<v Speaker 1>on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after.

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<v Speaker 3>This, the four to seven home of the Black and

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<v Speaker 3>Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back. I am Dale, Lollie. He is Matt Williamson.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned that we talked a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Taylor sticking with the Colts. That's going to remain

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<v Speaker 1>on the pup list. That means he misses the first

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<v Speaker 1>four weeks of the regular season, no matter, no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>even if he gets traded. Now, Christian Wilkins ended his

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<v Speaker 1>hold in with the Dolphins, so he's now back at practice.

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<v Speaker 1>But two significant guys have not ended their holdouts. And

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<v Speaker 1>these are holdouts Bosa and in Jones and Chris Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Chiefs, who they might be the two best

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<v Speaker 2>defensive players on the planet right now. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 2>in the conversation. I mean there's seven or eight, including

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<v Speaker 2>a guy that plays here, that are elite, elite players,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are two of them. And Bosa just has

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<v Speaker 2>he's been franchised, so he's not paying fines.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think he was franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not franchise's on his rookie deal. So it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the same as Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>They can waive those the fines. Yeah, but Chris Jones

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<v Speaker 1>is racking up.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just racking fifty dollars, yeah, and doesn't seem super

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<v Speaker 2>worried about it. And it's come out and said I

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<v Speaker 2>might wait till week eight. I guess we kate's the

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<v Speaker 2>magic number for getting in a crude season. Yeah, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know if he likes football, Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is his last time to cash out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's got a big deal a couple But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I.

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<v Speaker 2>Say he's already been paid, yeah, both the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I say I don't know if he likes football is

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<v Speaker 1>because when you watch him play, he turns it on off.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he wasn't the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>The motor doesn't go all the time when he goes

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<v Speaker 1>it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, it's great, great, great.

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<v Speaker 1>So when he does stuff like that, it leads me

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that maybe he just doesn't like football. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just good at it, and so he plays it and

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<v Speaker 1>does it.

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<v Speaker 2>I see what you're saying. And I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>rebuttal for that, because he was a phenomenal player at

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<v Speaker 2>what Mississsippi State, Yeah, and was a great tester and

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<v Speaker 2>is a rare player and went to the second round

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<v Speaker 2>for that reason. And I'm not say he's a bad

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<v Speaker 2>character guy, but a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying that either, I'm just saying if he loves football, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know if he's camp Hayward. You know, right, A

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<v Speaker 2>little known thing about the Chiefs. I'm not picking on

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs. They will take guys that have some questions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Harry Kill was not on everyone's draft board,

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<v Speaker 2>and Kareem Hunt, and there's a lot of examples, and

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<v Speaker 2>they make it work good for them some times. In

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<v Speaker 2>the league win a lot of Super Bowls, but they

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<v Speaker 2>win a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of Super Bowls with Patrick Mahomes. But they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>winning super Bowls when they were bringing in Kareem Hunt

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<v Speaker 1>before they had Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a stick key subject, just for how much

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<v Speaker 2>do you pay Jones? Because the way I understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a couple outlier contracts in the NFL right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Deshaun Watson, which ninety the teams would not have signed,

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Watson, or Christian McCaffrey, which is a good contract.

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<v Speaker 2>But McCaffrey and Aaron Donald are outlier contracts compared to

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else at their position. Aaron Donald because he's maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the best FENS player ever lived, or certainly in the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and McCaffrey because he's much more than Henry Barkley now

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<v Speaker 2>Jacobs at the running back position, because he's truly, truly,

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<v Speaker 2>truly a weapon. So no one has a problem with

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<v Speaker 2>Donald unlike Watson. No one has a problem with Donald

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<v Speaker 2>and McCaffrey's contract. But if I'm Chris Jones, I want

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<v Speaker 2>Donald's contract, and I don't think you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, So Chris Jones signed his four year,

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<v Speaker 1>eighty million dollar deal, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like ties basically in the league before.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty I think it was before the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one season. There was recent I mean it's not yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got well he no, it's before they so he's

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<v Speaker 1>got two years left on this. He signed for this

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<v Speaker 1>year and then he's an underrestricted the year after this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So he signed that in twenty twenty, So they gave

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<v Speaker 1>him twenty million dollars a year before he was really

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<v Speaker 1>this is the this is my problem and ascending.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of he got the same deal as like

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<v Speaker 2>Simmons and Quinn Williams. Ascending really good Dexter Lawrence defensive

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<v Speaker 2>tackle that is on the verge of greatness or slamming

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<v Speaker 2>down the door of greatness. But he's under contract.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he is under contract, and that's why kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a gutsy move. That's why they can then find him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look at it his first season

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, two sacks, played five hundred and seventy three snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as a second round pick rookie. Yeah, he's Keanu

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<v Speaker 2>Benton come into the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Started eleven out of sixteen games, and next season twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>started seven out of sixteen games at six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half secks. Then he final you know, twenty eighteen he

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<v Speaker 1>bus started fifteen and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Sacks, fifteen and a half wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty tackles. That was eighteen twenty nineteen. Uh, he plays

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred and fifty six npts. He missed three games

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<v Speaker 1>and then they gave him the four you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>big the big contract. I mean they he's gotten paid.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're not paying you know. See, this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I get it. You want a new contract

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<v Speaker 1>because you're you're up after this year. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you have to read the tea leaves as well

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<v Speaker 1>and say, well, okay, here's the problem. Kelsey's contract with

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<v Speaker 1>them is not.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge, That's what was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's but it's he's he's taking below market value.

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes is actually taking now what is below market value?

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<v Speaker 1>But you want to break the bank.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was going to say. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Seymour or Will Fork saying, I see Tom Brady's

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<v Speaker 2>taking eighty cents on the dollar, and Gronk could hold

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<v Speaker 2>out to no end too. But I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>play that game, and they have every right to. You know, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ever gonna just smudge a man's earning potential, but

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<v Speaker 2>that has to rub the organization wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>He took home twenty three point six million dollars last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He had an eighteen under contract.

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<v Speaker 1>He took an eighteen point one million dollar roster bonus

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Like, it's not like they, it's not like they,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not paying him. He made he's made good money

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<v Speaker 1>on this deal and he's This was not the Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Donald situation where he was making book kiss.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Austin Eckler who had nothing in his career

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<v Speaker 2>and says, finally, I wanted a couple bucks around my way,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's against the Chief's way if there is such

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, because Mahomes now he wasn't when he signed

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<v Speaker 2>his deal, but he is now as underpaid as you

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<v Speaker 2>possibly can be, much like Brady was, and he understands that,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's got side deals and he's doing just fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, but Kelsey. Kelsey could say to

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs, I want to be the highest paid wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver in the league, because that's exactly what.

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<v Speaker 1>He is, and there would be an argument for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a strong argument for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a Jimmy Graham argument. Jimmy Graham tried to argue

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<v Speaker 1>that when he got a franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>Tag, And with all respect to Jimmy Graham, Kelsey's way

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred times better. He's like the most important pass

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<v Speaker 2>catcher in the.

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<v Speaker 1>League and certainly the most important pass catcher on the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>And what if Kelsey last year went day after they

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<v Speaker 2>trade Tyreek, It's okay, Well, then I won thirty million

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 2>a year. I want to be the highest paid pass

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<v Speaker 2>catcher on the planet. He had every right to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>just like Jones has every right to say I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be the highest paid defensive player in the league

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<v Speaker 2>right now. They don't win super Bowls without those two right,

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<v Speaker 2>all respect homes.

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<v Speaker 1>And he has a base salary this year of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars. Again, he is not like, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it when you look at in the other contracts

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<v Speaker 1>that have been signed in the off season with some

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<v Speaker 1>of these defensive tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>But.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen and a half million dollars is not no, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to sneeze.

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<v Speaker 2>I see both sides. He looks at it like I

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<v Speaker 2>could cash in massively here and maybe get a Donald

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>contract or ninety percent of it, which is still the

0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 2>second highest paid defensi player in the league. But meanwhile,

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.159
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs are like, yeah, but you're not playing the

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<v Speaker 2>same way our other dudes are. You know, we're trying

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 2>to win you know, super Bowls here. So where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going with that is, could he get traded?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because it's a nineteen and a half million dollar

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>cap hit for whoever takes aim On forever takes a month.

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>They got to fit nineteen and a half million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>under their cap right now. And the problem is you

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 1>then have to give him a new contract. He's already

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine years old. You're gonna be paying him thirty

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<v Speaker 1>thirty plus in his thirties. In his thirties, Like that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense. That's bad business.

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<v Speaker 2>It might not end soon, though, is my point. I

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<v Speaker 2>get both sides.

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<v Speaker 1>The more pressing matter is that the Steelers play the

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco forty nine Ers in less than two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And a few weeks ago, John Lynch came out and said, oh,

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.800
<v Speaker 1>this isn't a big deal. It takes a veteran guy

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<v Speaker 1>like like like Nick Bosa, a couple of weeks to

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<v Speaker 1>get ready for the regular season. Well, we're within that

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<v Speaker 1>window now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, just to keep it Steeler centric, I don't believe

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 2>there's any way even if they sign. If our phone

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.440
<v Speaker 2>blows up right now, Nick Bosa signs a record setting deal,

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.439
<v Speaker 2>he's not gonna play every snap in Week one. Nope,

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 2>no way, no. I mean, he didn't played football. I mean,

0:24:38.720 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 2>he's a tremendous player. He'll be a third down rusher

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<v Speaker 2>at acting shore on Week one.

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming that he's if he's in pads.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's in pads, and I don't know it's a

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>done deal that he'll be in pads, and he's I

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>don't know if he's our most important player, but he's

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 2>the defensive player. He's Yeah, he's TJ. Watt. I mean,

0:24:57.200 --> 0:25:00.160
<v Speaker 2>we saw the Steelers without TJ. Watt. They're a very

0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>low blitz team because they pay hardgrave and they have

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>both you know, and they keep drafting Delyman. I mean,

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>so he's essential to one of the best defenses in

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 2>the league, and he's one of the best defensive players.

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>But at the more at this point on August twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe there's a scenario where he's a eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent snap guy in week one.

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<v Speaker 1>No, and so Ian Rappaport yesterday on the Pat McAfee

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 1>show said, they're not They're not even close yet. I

0:25:34.320 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's a sense that they're close at all.

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't get a sense that anything is imminent with that,

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>but at least there it sounds like there's been some

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>level of conversation, like he hadn't even been talking about

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 1>a new contract.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's not a lot of rush on Bo's perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's the perfect setup for the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna you're gonna play them. Okay, we know

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine Ers have their stars on office. You know, McCaffrey, Kittle,

0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:04.920
<v Speaker 1>they may have the most receiver. Yeah, are are great. Yeah,

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the left tackle is great Warner, But if you take

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Bose off that defense, rights, we saw what the Steelers

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 1>defense looked like last year without TJ. Wat it's the

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's apples to apples. Yeah, I really think

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 2>that's the perfect example. So when the schedule came out,

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 2>of course, we did a show and we said, ooh,

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the Niners. We knew were going to be a tough matchup,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to play him as early as possible. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>we get him in week one? Who knows even who

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 2>their quarterback is going to be. But now this we

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:36.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't know at that time was going to be looming.

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Still we assumed that both will be under contract, nobody

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<v Speaker 2>sits out, but now he's not going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>full time player. And I would have to go look

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 2>at their snapcounts, but I know Trent Williams has not

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>played a snap yet. I don't think Kittle has. Party's

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.720
<v Speaker 2>played very very little. And we saw what the Bengals

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.440
<v Speaker 2>looked like in Week one with all those dudes resting

0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 2>to say, there was rust and there was an appendectomy

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to Burrow, but the rest of the line and chasing.

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not like Party's coming back just off of something minor.

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:10.679
<v Speaker 2>He elbow surgery, right, because is he going to be

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 2>comfortable throwing the ball thirty forty times.

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>With t J. Watt and Alex Hismith barn down?

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean, if you remember the Bengals game, what

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 2>they sacked Burrow six times? And was it eight? I

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 2>knew it was eight number.

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they turned him over five times.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>And they beat the third out of them. Yeah, I mean,

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 2>I know the ball comes out quick in San Francisco,

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.159
<v Speaker 2>but I would be concerned with early rust if I'm

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.679
<v Speaker 2>the Niners, no matter who you're playing.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again if if your defense people talk about, well,

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>you know they won't. You know. Brouck Purty was six

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>and oh as the starter last year with the league's

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.679
<v Speaker 1>number one defense and stars all over the field.

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely like it. He was best skill guys in the league.

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it wasn't like he was asked to do a ton.

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Now he did fine.

0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>He was wait past he played well.

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But when you have the league's best defense back, they

0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>were the number one defense in scoring and yards allowed.

0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh and just about every member too. Yeah except for

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Sack if they brushed the passer.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, but if you don't have that dude coming off

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the edge, you're a much different team to play.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Very much so, so we have plenty of time to

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 2>talk Niners. But the last twenty four hours I've been

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 2>digging in heavy this game, and we've referenced football siders

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:26.159
<v Speaker 2>for years. Well, they don't exist anymore. If you had

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 2>football siders, I went to there to go get some information.

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't exist anymore. But Aaron Shotts has taken his

0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 2>DVOA elsewhere.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 1>And taking his DVOA and went home.

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.320
<v Speaker 2>They take football and get out of here. They played

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>the easies schedule in the league last year with them

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>and the Eagles. Now, I'm not taking away anything that

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the Niners did last year, but they had particularly party,

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 2>had as easy a path as any quarterback can have.

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it just was. Now he may prove to

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 2>be great. They think he is. They know Shanahan knows

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>way more about quarterbacks than me, But I don't think

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>he's out of the woods as a player.

0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't think anything. They've also lost their last

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>two trips to the Eastern Eastern time zone.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Did that yeah, I mean I know the Philadelphia situation,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>but they didn't have a quarterback.

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But they had a quarterback.

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>He played, Yeah, didn't finish.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they were still getting beaten when he was in

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>the game. I mean, and now.

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Lance isn't a Niner. Yeah, you know, so are. They're

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:21.400
<v Speaker 2>in a precarious situation.

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's fascinating. I also, yeah, they don't

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>have a kicker. I also know that. Again, I've been

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a reporter for thirty plus years. When your star player

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>like that is sitting out and he's not around teammates

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>are getting asked about it constantly. Like that's why to me,

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>I think the hold ends take some of that pressure off.

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>As long as it's comfortable when you're not being a

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>jag off, like right.

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Like the guys everybody sees them. Okay, you see him

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>off to the side, he's working with the trainer, he's doing

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>he's doing individual drills. He's just not doing anything on

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>the field.

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>As long as he's not sitting at lunch with his

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>buddies going I hate the Steelers aren't get out here.

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You In situations like this with holdouts, which I've also

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>covered these in the past, the teammates were asked about

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it constantly. Hey, you have you talked to Nick? Have

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you talked to you know? What's where's Nick at right now?

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was the big deal with leve On

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.959
<v Speaker 1>Bell when he was holding out. Like the other players

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>on the on the froster, we're tired of talking about

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it all the time, like being asked about it all

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>We're doing our job as reporters asking about that stuff

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because people want to know what's the situation is. I mean,

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 1>so they got to bear, They got to bear the

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:31.760
<v Speaker 1>brunt of it, and he's not there.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know better than I would, But my hunch

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 2>is Eric Armstead, Fred Warner, et cetera. Yeah, they're talking

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to Nick. He's their friend. Nick wants to know how

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>the defense looks, how things are going, but they don't

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.480
<v Speaker 2>know a thing about his contract or when he's showing up.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You think Fred Warner has any input on the whether

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Nick Bosa side.

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>And that was again going back to the Levy On

0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Bell situation. That was when the teammates finally got ticked

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>at Levy On when he had been telling them that

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>he was going to come back at a certain date.

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>It was like this date, Labor Day, weekend, and then

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't and then there was you know again, then it

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>carried over into the regular season and people thought, well,

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be in this time or that time

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>or that time, and those deadlines kept passing, and he

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>kept telling me about it, and then you're a little

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>more your tone changes with the reporters, I'm sure too. Yeah, yes,

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I've been asked about it for two months and my my,

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, conversation back to the microphone in my face

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>is well, you know, we're blah blah blah, and deep

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>down you're like level be.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Here Labor day.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we supported me. We want him to get paid

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 1>as much as we know how important.

0:31:35.080 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>He is doing the same thing. Maybe I understand, But

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 2>then he's not.

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Here Labor Day and then you feel like he lied

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to you.

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 2>And then the reporter asked the same question and your

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 2>tone's a little different. I mean that's the way the

0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:48.560
<v Speaker 2>world is.

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just I'm fascinated by this. I'll be very

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, interested to see does he sign this weekend?

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Does he sign sometime next week? If you remember TJ

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>wants situation and he held in, he held in, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>sign his contract to think until the day before maybe

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<v Speaker 1>to that Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't that late? I know he played.

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>It was late in the week when he signed that

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 1>new deal with the Steelers and then played in the

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>game and played.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know is not gonna stink.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>No, No, he's still but you're getting Nick Bosa seventy

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:23.280
<v Speaker 1>five percent of what he typically.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 2>He's not quite in football shape. I mean he's working

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>out like crazy. He's a tremendous work ethic, tremendous player.

0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>But i'd rather play him in Week one than we.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when he's a little winded, and you know, does

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>it just it's all very things are setting up well

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>it is for the Steelers in this game.

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.160
<v Speaker 2>So one thing I like to do with our show

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 2>in my own mind is what if this was forty

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 2>nine Ers Nation Radio. I think what I would be saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if I could be as impartial as possible, is we'll

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>still win the division. We're still a really good team.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 2>This is still a super Bowl contender. But the season

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<v Speaker 2>might start slow. Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't think

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>they'll be at their best in Week one. Quarterback outside,

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, edge guy Trent Williams, kicker, kicker, I mean

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>just they haven't played a lot of snaps and McCaffrey

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>hasn't seen the field yet.

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure he's going to be great, you know, but

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>they just aren't probably their tip top shape.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's it's all going to be very interesting.

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think the Steelers are coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason for whatever whatever the preseason means, They're hot, They're

0:33:25.280 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 1>they're flying high.

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, I mean, how could you not be confident

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and thrilled you're at right now?

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>The key is and I heard several guys talk about

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>this this week, and I think Allan Robinson said it

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>after the game. We don't want to peak too early.

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I was. I didn't say this on the air, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to play the first game as soon as possible. Yeah,

0:33:45.000 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want the seventeen days off. I'm sure.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I asked Alex Highsmith about that after the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, is this like you guys, would you rather

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.480
<v Speaker 1>be playing next week? He's like, Ah, we get some

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>guys who are a little nicked up right now, let's

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 1>get healthy. Seventeen dayloff. We can we can deal with

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that and we'll be you know, we'll be healthy. We

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>know we're good, We'll be fine.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure Alan Robinson and Cam Hayward and

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the older dudes are like, seventeen games to days is great.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You'd be quiet there. But I bet collectively they're chomping

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 2>for week one. Oh yeah, I'm like, oh, let's the

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:18.760
<v Speaker 2>lay week one as long as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, he is. Matt Williamson, I am dale. LOLLI you're

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>listening to the drive. You're on Steelers Nation Radio. Weren't

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<v Speaker 1>take a break. We'll be back to finish up the

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<v Speaker 1>show right after this, He's.

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<v Speaker 3>The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold

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<v Speaker 3>Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back on Dale Lolli. He is Matt Williamson and

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt.

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<v Speaker 1>The big news from the last couple of days is

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the Steelers trade Kevin Dotson to the Rams. Today they

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>trade Kendrick Green to the Houston Texans. And people might

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>look at that and say, why would those teams want

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 1>those two players.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good perspective. I can tell you

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly why they want that.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>So here here's the Rams offensive line. I believe this

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>is updated now. Since everything this is right off of their.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Website, I'll know their starters they're dealing.

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<v Speaker 1>With, right, So it left tackle. They've got Joe Noteboom,

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Alaric Jackson, and Rob Having Stevenstein, Yeah, along with Waram McLendon.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Their interior guys Steve Avilla Okay.

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 2>His early pick, but he's right, yeah.

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 1>Tremaine Ankorum, Zach Thomas, and then the centers of Brian

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Allen and Coleman Shelton.

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<v Speaker 2>Dotson might start.

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>He might start.

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean they really have four starters. Al in the center, Avelia,

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 2>who's a really good prospect, that was their first pick,

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 2>us an early second. Usually those guys are plug and play,

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 2>but who knows. No, Boom and Havenstein are okay, but

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 2>they were hurt all last year too. And the depth

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 2>guys you mentioned there, I know nothing about. Yeah, I mean, so.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Dots Tremaine Anchorm, I know anything about.

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>The first time I ever heard his name, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>the starter right now.

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so Dotson very well may start.

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he's a starting guard for them. So

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 2>the price they paid for that is pretty minimal. It

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean he's a superstar, but he's in the mix

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 2>now to start. That's where that team is. Yeah, Houston's

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 2>lines much better, and I give them credit that they

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>have put a lot of resources in that line. You know,

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>they extended both tackles. They had a first round pick

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>guard last year early draft picks. Center traded for Shaq Mason.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.560
<v Speaker 2>But center is still a problem for them. If you

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 2>look at their line, think green to the center.

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Laramie Tunsell and Titus Howard are the tackles they're paying

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>both of those.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Guess because they gave him both good money.

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Inside, it's Kenyan Green who struggled last.

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Year Brookie year, but his first round pick, he's going

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 2>to start.

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>They bring in Shack Mason, good Va, Juice Scruggs is

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>currently the starter at center, and then the only guy

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>behind those guys on the interior is Jared Patterson and

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>now Kendrick Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I didn't know what the interior depth was like,

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>but obviously it's worrisome. Yeah, I mean Green's gonna make

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that team. Dawson's gonna make that team, maybe start. I

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 2>don't think Green's a starter for them, but.

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 1>They have no backup plan that he's any of those

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>three spots.

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I assume he's the swing guy on the inside.

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>I would think so.

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I think of him as a guardian center. I don't

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>know what their thoughts are, but either way, for a

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 2>future pick, that's worth it for them. Yeah, you got

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 2>a third overall pick at quarterback you don't want. That's

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 2>why they've dedicated so much this line, you know. I

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>mean they're going to run the ball and try to

0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.719
<v Speaker 2>keep Stroud sort of upright in his rookie year. You

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 2>don't want to ruin him if it costs you a

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 2>future six, who cares.

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I might add that the Steelers, well they play both

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:47.799
<v Speaker 1>of these teams this year.

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Good. I think that Texan line is good, but I

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.719
<v Speaker 2>don't think the Texans are good, right, you know, the

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>other things around them aren't great, but the depth is horrendous.

0:37:58.600 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 2>That's Week four, right.

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, yeah, week four. I mean we'll see.

0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So you look at that, and they have a rookie quarterback,

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and they were a rookie quarterback that they The Rams,

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:12.360
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, have a veteran quarterback, but a

0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>really bad.

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Line, a really bad line, and their veteran quarterback has

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>gotten I mean, he didn't finish last year, he has

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 2>an extensive injury history and age situation. So put yourself

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>in these guys shoes. I mean, it's good for Omar

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.399
<v Speaker 2>in the front office for getting what they did out

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 2>of them. But I can pretty much promise those weren't

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 2>the only two teams that were kicking the tires on these.

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Guys without a doubt. I mean, there's a lot of

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>offensive lines out there that were really, really trouble. I mean,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots traded for two offensive tackles in the last

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>three days.

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 2>So earlier in the show, you talked about the Steelers

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.279
<v Speaker 2>OH line from two years ago, how only Shukes and

0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.799
<v Speaker 2>Dan Moore are back. Well this time two years ago,

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers would have traded a future six for Kevin Dotson.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean.

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Man and the same version, someone who's coming off of

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.280
<v Speaker 1>back to back seasons.

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>With starting experience. R It's still young, it isn't expensive.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Like it's nice to be on the other.

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Side of that, without a doubt, without a dot I

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>think that just shows you where this team is at

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:16.839
<v Speaker 1>right now as compared to two years ago.

0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if we were doing Texans Nation Radio, you and

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I would be like, we really like Kendrick Green coming

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 2>out Illinois. Boy, he's had a tough go of it,

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 2>but maybe you know, hardly gave anything up for him.

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he'll come in here and be an upgrade and

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 2>help and same thing with the Rams.

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah again, if if Kenyan Green struggles again.

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>This year, for that he's a starting guard for him. Perhaps,

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean he said it earlier. I think they had

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.399
<v Speaker 2>the worst center play in the league last year at Houston. Yeah,

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.240
<v Speaker 2>do you want the worst center play in the league?

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>For And honestly, I mean if you if you look

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>at their offensive line, a mid round center and Scruggs.

0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that solves.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 2>The problem, right, who knows.

0:39:57.760 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I like the prospect, but I like Ken you I

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>like and Green is a prospect.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Frankly, I thought Scruggs was even overdraft. I think he

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 2>was a third rounder. Yeah, and who knows. They may

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.120
<v Speaker 2>adore him. He might be a really good player. And

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying Green's the answer, but they need to

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:12.800
<v Speaker 2>take cracks at the apple.

0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the other teams are doing with uh went

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 2>in doubt add more offensive lineman and free agency or

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, like le Raven Clark will probably end up

0:40:21.840 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 2>somewhere somewhere. I mean, yeah, you know, uh.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Just looking here at that forty nine Ers starting offensive.

0:40:28.160 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Line, there's a lot of no names.

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Trent Williams at left tackle, you know who he is.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>He's also thirty five years old?

0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Is he thirty five? Yeah?

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Left guard is Aaron Banks, his second round pick in

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, which.

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Was a really weird fit because he's like three thirty five.

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>And usually they they want to move guys. Yeah, yeah, I.

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Never understood that pick, and he's not really fit in.

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, the center is Jake Brendle.

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the center to right tackle position is worrisome.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Right guard is Spencer Buford at Burford and then Colton

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>mckivitz at right tackle. He was a fifth round pick

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty twenty.

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Again, if this was forty nine or Nation Radio, we

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>would like those three more than you. And I don't

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 2>know if we would, you know, like you watch them

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 2>every day like they're okay.

0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know if I would, But I mean,

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>like the backup center's Keith is mil I like Keith

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>is mill Is, a late round guy a couple of

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 1>years ago.

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but and there's a little hubris there that Shanahan

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.760
<v Speaker 2>thinks his scheme can overcome that stuff. You know, Miami's

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.720
<v Speaker 2>sort of doing the same thing. And I was very critical,

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>not even knowing. When the Steelers played the Niners on

0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 2>draft Day, they had three third round picks, a fair

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 2>amount of like force and fifths, no line drafts, and

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 2>they take a kicker in the first pick. I know,

0:41:48.680 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>they never first round or second rounder, but they didn't.

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>They weren't void of picks. Take a guard, yeah, anything,

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I might say you're gonna starting left tackle in the

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 2>third round, but take a guard center always those guys, Yeah,

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 2>I just understand that at all.

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're you know, Spencer Gleic, Spencer Anderson sitting out

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:06.359
<v Speaker 1>there in the seventh round.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Again, he's been for them absolutely or.

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<v Speaker 2>For any of those three lines we talked about. The

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<v Speaker 2>Rams would love that Spencer Anderson right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>With Dylan Cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Where Dylan Cook who was out there as a street

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<v Speaker 1>free agent after the season.

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<v Speaker 2>Stalers keep Dylan Cook because one of these teams would

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<v Speaker 2>have taken him to.

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<v Speaker 1>A heartbeat without a doubt pre season of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, So that's going to do it for the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate everybody. It was an interesting show today. We

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<v Speaker 1>kind of DJed a little bit, We kind of talked

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot. We broke some news. I hope if

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<v Speaker 1>people could hear.

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<v Speaker 2>It all kinds of good stuff. I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 2>listen to podcast. To the podcast version is you have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways. Uh, that's going to do it for today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Brian Lamartine here

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<v Speaker 1>on site, well, keeping us on the air. Is not

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody could hear everything, not that it was Brian's

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<v Speaker 1>fault either. I'm Dane Lollie. We thank you for listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this edition of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.

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