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Speaker 1: At least. He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly, he is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and it's a Wednesday here in Pittsburgh Matts. So we

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Speaker 1: uh have a little injury and news too to look at.

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Speaker 1: Here is these Steelers get ready to play the Ravens

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. Uh, I can't wait for that. Just means

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Speaker 1: it's super late night for all of you guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got into an argument with somebody on Twitter about

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Speaker 1: that I tweeted out. You know, we were talking the

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Speaker 1: Steelers like, so they announced that I tweeted out, you know,

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Speaker 1: Steelers Ravens game moved to Sunday night, and I put

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Speaker 1: yuck after it. Not yuck because of the game, but

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Speaker 1: because of what I have to do for for another

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Speaker 1: night game. And you know, some guy came after me.

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Speaker 1: First of all, oh, you all you Pittsburgh media members

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Speaker 1: then secondly, um, as I explained to the guy, you'll

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Speaker 1: be in bed. Well, I'm still up working at three

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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, right it's a different world. It's

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Speaker 1: not oh, I don't want to stay up late, or

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Speaker 1: I don't like the Steelers, or I'm not gonna watch

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Speaker 1: Ravens Steelers, or it's a bad game. They should have

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Speaker 1: a different game. It's more like, hey, when this thing,

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Speaker 1: I'm working the whole game, when the plans to be

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Speaker 1: there for a one o'clock game, and then again get

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Speaker 1: in the morning, and well passed that. Especially it's a

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Speaker 1: road game for you guys. Yeah, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I always uh, I'm not jealous at all when you

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Speaker 1: guys have a night road game and then you have

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Speaker 1: to go perform the next day or do whatever to

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Speaker 1: oh and then yeah, and then by the way, I

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Speaker 1: gotta get up and do my regular Monday world right

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Speaker 1: as regularly planned. It's still the same, Everything is still

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Speaker 1: at the same times. I just have to you know,

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Speaker 1: I work about to do it with way less lee

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Speaker 1: in a you know, twenty or thirty six hour period.

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Speaker 1: I work about thirty of those, so yuck. Right, it's

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Speaker 1: not the best game, ever, it doesn't matter. It changes

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Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, you don't think about those things. They

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Speaker 1: do not and whatever whatever first that came out. Twitter

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Speaker 1: does for a living either. But you know, whatever you're

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Speaker 1: yuck is because it changes your schedule. Yes, looking at

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Speaker 1: the Steeler's injury report from today, Deante Johnson with that

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Speaker 1: toe issue was limited today. That's nothing new. And he

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Speaker 1: played well on Sunday, so I don't think that's Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Miles Jack, there were a bunch of guys who were

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Speaker 1: Pat Firemouth, Cam Hayward, Larry Ogan, Joebi. They were all

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Speaker 1: at they were they were gonna miss practice anyways. Some

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Speaker 1: of them they get getting You know, Cam usually gets

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Speaker 1: Thursdays off. Today he got. He got Wednesday instead to

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Speaker 1: go to think those personal days, right, yeah, okay, which

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Speaker 1: if you weren't gonna practice anyways on a Wednesday with

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Speaker 1: mean you took the day off. He came in early

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Speaker 1: in the morning, he sat through the meetings and dressing

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Speaker 1: went probably yeah, right, makes sense. Uh, Cameron Sutton with

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Speaker 1: the hamstring injury, did not practice. Yeah, and he's playing well. Um,

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Speaker 1: so obviously is not a big throw team, nor is

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Speaker 1: I think that experiences it takes away, you know, if

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Speaker 1: Edmunds in that role. And yeah, the ability to mix

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Speaker 1: We're next. Yeah. So and I guess you have nothing

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Speaker 1: Tay Crowder off the Giants practice squad. Um. He played

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Speaker 1: he impresses enough to be a camp next week, next

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Speaker 1: But as bad as that Steeler game was, they rushed

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Speaker 1: just let Lamar go and start Tyler Huntley. Tyler Huntley

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Speaker 1: But Huntley does not bring the same stuff to the table.

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Speaker 1: And many of his roads or sideways, almost all of them.

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Speaker 1: The other weird snapped thing too from last week, Ricard

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Speaker 1: more than ever. Yeah, it's it's gonna be. It's interesting dynamic. Um,

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Speaker 1: not even at his best. And the takeaways. If fifteen

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Speaker 1: like how many fumbles did what create off? The got

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Speaker 1: five this year? Five fumbles NFL. Okay, so that's not

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