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Speaker 3: Richie, how are you on this Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, my brother, I'm good. I mean, we're doing it.

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Speaker 1: Uh football, no college football, no pro football, and we

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Speaker 1: are somehow fighting our way through the slog that is

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Speaker 1: the spring or I should say, the very nearly coming

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Speaker 1: spring of the sports calendar. It's interesting because we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this in the past, Steve, we both live by

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Speaker 1: the sports calendar as broadcasters, as a former athlete, as

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Speaker 1: in your case, a sports fanatic, your entire life. Uh

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Speaker 1: we we just we kind of set our clo by it.

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Speaker 1: I could tell you what month it is, by what

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Speaker 1: major golf tournaments are on television. I can tell you,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically what milestones in my life were going

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Speaker 1: on alongside of Super Bowl victories and championships in other sports.

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Speaker 1: So it's that span of time where we're getting ready

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Speaker 1: for golf that matters. We're getting ready still for basketball

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Speaker 1: that matters in both college and professional. And there's a

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Speaker 1: little room for the news feed to be gobbled up

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Speaker 1: by breaking news in any sport. And there have been

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Speaker 1: a couple of headlines the Lebron potential trade to the

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Speaker 1: people in the NFL looking for new places to play.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps outside of that, it's been a little quiet.

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Speaker 2: I was in the Phoenix area this week and it's

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Speaker 2: sort of a happy place right now. Obviously with springt

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Speaker 2: Rainy and Arizona, we got all that going on. Also,

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Speaker 2: they'll be hosting the Final Four this year, which she'll

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Speaker 2: be great, are in Glendale, and so yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: it is a time to sort of catch up on

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Speaker 2: a few things and plenty of controversy in the sports

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Speaker 2: where we're gonna get to as well. Our buddy John

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Speaker 2: Paul Morosi is gonna be joining us here in about

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Speaker 2: seventeen minutes. They're going to break down a little Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball some big news last night apparently Cody Bellinger

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Speaker 2: and the Cubs finally agreeing on a three year.

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Speaker 3: Eighty million dollar deal.

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Speaker 2: However, I was just talking to our dear from Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 2: of course is a Chicago guy, and reminded me there

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Speaker 2: are opt outs in Bellinger's deal the first couple of years.

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Speaker 2: So and by the way, speaking of you know, unsigned

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Speaker 2: free agents, I don't know. Didn the Patres have a

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Speaker 2: Cy Young Award winner and Blake Snell this past year?

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Speaker 2: How is it possible that the Raining Nation League Cy

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Speaker 2: for the twenty twenty four season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got a good point there. It's it's

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Speaker 1: a little interesting how how sports work. Sometimes when there's

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Speaker 1: think that it'll heat up for Blake Snell. I would

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Speaker 1: assume so. But I want to remind everybody that when

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Speaker 1: Blake Snell left Tampa Bay and he was moving on

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Speaker 1: jerky for a second there. There was a little bit

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Speaker 1: a new clubhouse. There were definitely and he was very

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Speaker 1: open about this. Blake Snell is one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: Well, you and I interviewed him a number of times.

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Speaker 2: We love his quirky personality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I think he revealed to everybody

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Speaker 2: So the are a couple of things I wanted to

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Speaker 3: Were you surprised that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I understood the timing of his dismissal from

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's very interesting. Look. I think that Eric

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Speaker 1: the Enemy has found himself searching for the right fit, right.

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Speaker 1: I think he was hoping to find to find a

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Speaker 1: I don't hate the move for him. I know it

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Speaker 1: It's an opportunity because UCLA is in a huge recruiting market.

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Speaker 1: It's a good opportunity for him to tout the fact

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Speaker 1: And you could argue that that offense with Eric b Enemy,

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Speaker 1: I think it's actually a good move for Eric b Enemy.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great move for UCLA absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And he actually was at UCLA as an assistant coach,

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Speaker 2: so you know, after his NFL career wound down, he

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Speaker 2: So you know, he is a guy that brings some credibility.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you because recruiting, recruiting, recruiting and recruiting,

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Speaker 2: And he's an LA guy. And we talked about this before.

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Speaker 2: Even though UCLA and USC are moving into the Big ten,

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Speaker 2: the bulk of their recruiting still has to come out

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Speaker 2: lot of plotting of some of the moves UCLA's been

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Speaker 2: making in recent years, but this one was a coup

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Speaker 3: Get a guy like Eric b Enemy.

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Speaker 2: So we have that story and other stories I definitely

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Speaker 3: So Richie now without the football.

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Speaker 2: How I mean, because I don't get to see you

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Speaker 2: I mean, how does this change your world at this

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Speaker 1: Well, everybody, I think can who's a who considers himself

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Speaker 1: this feeling of relief a little bit when the football

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Speaker 1: season ends. I mean, you miss it. There's no question

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Speaker 1: there's an energy and a pace to life during the

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Speaker 1: it feels like, oh my gosh, that list, that running

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Speaker 1: list that's a million miles long. I can finally get

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Speaker 1: out this week with justin Fields you know who obviously

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Speaker 1: heading into this offseason, there's a lot of discussion over

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Speaker 1: what the Browns or the Bears are going to do

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Speaker 1: the Saint Brown Brothers podcast and he talked about how

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Speaker 1: he unfollowed the Bears in the NFL Instagram account because

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Speaker 1: he wanted football off of his timeline. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: get away from it for a little bit and he

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Speaker 1: with Hey, what are the Bears going to do about Fields?

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Speaker 1: Are they going to trade him?

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Speaker 1: What are the Fields going to do about the draft?

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna draft Kayleb Williams. He's like, you know

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Speaker 1: enough of that, Like I want to be able to rest,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm We're in very different situations myself and

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Speaker 1: justin Fields, but I feel that a little bit, like

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Speaker 1: it is kind of nice to be able to kick

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and gear up for the next season.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, the next season we'll include baseball, Major

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Speaker 2: League baseball coming up. On the other side, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: Tyler Glass now I'm having flashbacks to Noah's Sindegard, A

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Speaker 7: Steve and Rich A good afternoon, good morning out on

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Speaker 7: the West coast, and you are exactly right about the

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Speaker 7: it is something that the Dodgers have to deal with

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Speaker 1: Hey JP, former Cincinnati Reds MVP Joey Vado, outfielder Tommy

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Speaker 7: But it I think is emblematic of a market that

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Speaker 1: JP.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure the three of us can agree on the

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Speaker 7: for Burns, but they protected their depth to be able

438
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Speaker 7: to go out there and add to their bullpen at

439
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Speaker 7: the deadline when they still have to find someone to

440
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Speaker 7: help bill in for Felix Bautista. Of course, they signed

441
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Speaker 7: Craig Kimbrel, but they in my view, they are both

442
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Speaker 7: the favorites and not yet a finished product. And the

443
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Speaker 7: way that they have I think procured and kept and

444
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Speaker 7: cultivated their assets is all in a way that I

445
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Speaker 7: believe will help them be even more dangerous when it

446
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Speaker 7: comes to acquiring players at the trade deadline. So I'm

447
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Speaker 7: a big believer in the Orioles. I also happen to

448
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 7: think this, there's this little team that that was just

449
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 7: two games above five hundred last year. They're they're the

450
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Speaker 7: perpetual underdogs who added one of the best players in

451
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Speaker 7: the planet this offseason, and I think they're going to

452
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Speaker 7: the playoffs this year. And this little underrated team is

453
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Speaker 7: called the New York Yankees. They are a really good

454
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 7: bass club and once they added one so too to

455
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Speaker 7: a team that already has Aaron Judge. And I'm sorry,

456
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Speaker 7: as much as people love to hate on the behemoth

457
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Speaker 7: in New York, when you've got two of the best

458
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Speaker 7: three hitters in the planet, which is what they've got

459
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Speaker 7: with Judge and Soto, they're going to be just fine.

460
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Speaker 7: And I think if they just get a little bit

461
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Speaker 7: better in the pitching area, maybe they find a way

462
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Speaker 7: to still add one more free agent pitcher. Now that

463
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 7: the market is starting to move and Bellinger signed, maybe

464
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Speaker 7: there's gonna be a little movement on Montgomery and Snell

465
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Speaker 7: as well. But I think the New York Yankees are

466
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Speaker 7: a vastly underrated team right now and they're gonna be

467
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Speaker 7: dangerous this season.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're just wedding the appetite of all the baseball

469
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Speaker 2: fans out there. I cannot wait for this baseball season begin.

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Speaker 3: I am so excited.

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Speaker 2: I thought baseball, and we've talked about this, JP really

472
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: really made a giant leap forward with a lot of

473
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Speaker 2: decisions a year ago. I think it's only gonna be

474
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Speaker 2: better in twenty twenty four. JP, we always appreciate the time,

475
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Speaker 2: and we'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 7: Sounds great, gentlemen, Baseball season is here. Reach out anytime.

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Speaker 3: All right, there is the great John Paul Morosi.

478
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Speaker 2: We have so many things to talk to him about,

479
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 2: but you know he gets such in depth answers, right.

480
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just like, you know, it's so good

481
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Speaker 3: to have someone like JP on.

482
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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's happening right now, what's trending?

483
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Speaker 3: And look who's here.

484
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Speaker 2: Hello fellas Wanseie once again and the guys through some

485
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Speaker 2: breakfast burritos which are a phenomenal and well.

486
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Speaker 3: We'll appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Today.

488
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Speaker 9: When I went to order, I ordered less than I

489
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 9: typically do, and the guy, because I'm now there every Sunday,

490
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Speaker 9: was like, oh, why not seven today? And I was like,

491
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Speaker 9: they are not coming into work, sir, We're not going

492
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Speaker 9: to waste anything.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but he literally said, why not seven today?

494
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Speaker 1: You are now a regular at Tago Bell Really.

495
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Speaker 8: That was so funny. I laughed. I laughed. I was like, damn, yep,

496
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Speaker 8: I'll see you next week, sir. It maybe seven, We'll see,

497
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Speaker 8: We'll see you.

498
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Speaker 9: Guys, did not ask JP the most important question about baseball?

499
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Speaker 1: What's that?

500
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Speaker 8: Are these your pants really true? Are they really see through?

501
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Speaker 3: All Right? I didn't even know. I keep seeing the story.

502
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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's on the on the ticker thing,

503
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, you are terrible.

504
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, why am I opening this story?

505
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: But apparently, like the league said that the uniform pants

507
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 10: have the same material in thickness as the pants used

508
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Speaker 10: last season, that the changes to the fabric were on

509
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 10: the jersey, not the pants, a statement by Major League Baseball.

510
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing now. Rich is well known for

511
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,239
Speaker 2: his glistening thighs. Yes, thank you can only imagine his

512
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 2: thighs on display in these.

513
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Speaker 9: News I don't think people are worried about the thighs

514
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Speaker 9: on display, Steve Hartman, I think solid points.

515
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Speaker 1: You know, this is the so I was filling it for. Yeah,

516
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Speaker 1: you know exactly where I was filling it for Gottlieb

517
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Speaker 1: on Friday. And this is the way I described it. Look,

518
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Speaker 1: when you go to the supermarket and you're picking out,

519
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: you know, you pass by the meat section. Everything's in

520
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Speaker 1: plastic wrap because you want to see the marbling, right,

521
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, maybe Major League Baseball's uniforms are doing

522
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Speaker 1: a little bit of the same thing.

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Speaker 8: Maybe. I mean, listen, I'm not saying it's not on purpose.

524
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Speaker 8: We just really should JP if it's true.

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Speaker 2: Are you saying that we're gonna judge talent differently based

526
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Speaker 2: on the makeup of these pants.

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Speaker 8: That's a possibility.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe Io bringing your own bat.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, maybe you look past them striking out,

530
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Speaker 9: you know, maybe you'll look past them letting the ball

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Speaker 9: go through the legs.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, we'll just try to get JP on

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Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 9: We'll please pleaase do We got one NBA game going on,

537
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 9: but eleven happening on this Sunday, the Bucks and the

538
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 9: seventy six ers going at it in Philly. Late in

539
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 9: the first quarter. Bucks are up twenty seven to nineteen.

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Speaker 9: Milwaukee is third place in the Eastern Conference going into today.

541
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Speaker 9: Philadelphia's currently in fifth in the Eastern Conference.

542
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Speaker 8: In one college hoops.

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Speaker 9: Game going on right now, and let's check it out

544
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Speaker 9: because I'm on a commercial here with it, so let's

545
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Speaker 9: see if I can refresh my page and give you

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Speaker 9: the updated score since they're in a commercial. Here, we

547
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 9: are eight minutes to go in the game between number

548
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Speaker 9: fifteen Cranton and Saint John's. Saint John's still on top

549
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Speaker 9: of Creighton has closed again to just five. It's fifty

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Speaker 9: seven to fifty two, so seven and a half minutes

551
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Speaker 9: to go in the game. But what is still trending

552
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Speaker 9: believe it or not, which we shouldn't be surprised. That's

553
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Speaker 9: what happened yesterday with Duke center Kyle Philipowski after they

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Speaker 9: lost to Wake Forest and they stormed the court.

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Speaker 8: He's still trending. That's what people are still talking about

556
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 8: since he was hurt.

557
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Speaker 9: He says talking with Wfmy that he does think it

558
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Speaker 9: was on purpose, because.

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Speaker 8: He's like, how do you feel slid charges?

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Speaker 2: You were assaulted on the court, and obviously there's videos,

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Speaker 2: so whoever did it?

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Speaker 3: We know who it is, file assault charges.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just as we talked about yesterday. This doesn't

564
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Speaker 9: need to happen, but he's still trending. Fellas back to you.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much, Matsie. Well let's go

566
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Speaker 3: with that right now.

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Speaker 2: Rich Obviously, this was a big story yesterday and people say,

568
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Speaker 2: what can you do about it?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's very simple. The SEC, I don't know if

570
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Speaker 3: you know this.

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Speaker 2: They already have hepty fines against universities for this very occurrence.

572
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: First time offenders one hundred thousand dollars, second time offenders

573
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Speaker 2: like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, third time five

574
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. The ACC has no penalties, which is

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Speaker 2: amazing because Coach k was one that had openly talked

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Speaker 2: about this for years because on the rare occasion the

577
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Speaker 2: Duke is upset, fans would storm the court, and he

578
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: voiced his concerns many many times. And see, unfortunately here

579
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Speaker 2: rich everyone's talking about Philapowski and he gets hurt and

580
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Speaker 2: everything else. But what about the fans that are actually

581
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Speaker 2: storming the court. It is a stampede, one is not

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Speaker 2: largely students. Obviously, one student goes down in the midst

583
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Speaker 2: of a stampede and gets seriously injured, and now you're

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Speaker 2: facing lawsuits.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine.

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Speaker 2: Why these universities, these conferences would take that sort of

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Speaker 2: risk that could easily happen in a situation like this,

588
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Speaker 2: because we see it happen at co concerts. We've heard

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Speaker 2: this at soccer games where people are killed in these

590
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Speaker 2: stampedes of humanity, And it can easily happen in one

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Speaker 2: of these situations on a basketball court. Why wait until

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Speaker 2: tragedy strikes before taking serious action.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the reality of the situation is a nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to be the fun police where you know, some

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Speaker 1: college student has to pay some ridiculous amount of money

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Speaker 1: and fines because they were arrested for storming a court.

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Speaker 1: You know, and then that story gets out and it's

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Speaker 1: bad public relations for the basketball team, especially if the

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Speaker 1: coach doesn't have a problem with it, because we know

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Speaker 1: how this works at the college level, the coach really

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Speaker 1: runs everything. Also, if you do start enforcing a lot

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Speaker 1: more security, for example, as a preventative measure, not as

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Speaker 1: a reactive measure like having people arrested for trespassing or

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00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: whatever whatever complaint. You would be able to arrest somebody

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Speaker 1: on for storming the court. But say say you you

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Speaker 1: hired a personal of I don't know what it would

607
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Speaker 1: take thirty forty security guards to guard the court from

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Speaker 1: something like this happening. Well, you are spending I don't know,

609
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Speaker 1: but a lot of money on security every single game,

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Speaker 1: every single home game that your team plays throughout the season,

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Speaker 1: So that doesn't really seem feasible. Unfortunately, Steve. What I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna take is somebody's kid off to college,

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Speaker 1: you know, just being a kid enjoying a game, rushing

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Speaker 1: the court with their buddies falling, hitting their head, getting paralyzed,

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Speaker 1: getting brain damaged, or worse, passing away from their injuries,

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Speaker 1: and then this is going to be something that is

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Speaker 1: going to go away as a result. But I honestly

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Speaker 1: think there are certain things that almost require a tragedy

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Speaker 1: for change to occur, and I just don't think people

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Speaker 1: look at this as a big enough deal for it

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Speaker 1: to not continue. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: I think another part of this specifically, and I mentioned

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Speaker 2: coach K had complained about this a couple of times

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Speaker 2: back in his years at Duke, is that it's Duke.

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Speaker 3: I mean, unless you are a Duke die hard.

626
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Speaker 2: Duke is the most hated college basketball program.

627
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Speaker 3: In the country. They're the evil Ones.

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Speaker 2: Duke tied to coach K for years and John Schiro

629
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Speaker 2: Ronald the obviously the coach there, and so people are

630
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Speaker 2: like ah, you know, suck it up, Duke, you know

631
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Speaker 2: you lost, and wake Forest.

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Speaker 3: They're excited about it. But I'm with you, Rich.

633
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Speaker 2: I mean again, everyone's talking about the injury to Philipowski

634
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Speaker 2: and all I'm doing watching the replay. We're talking literally

635
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Speaker 2: a matter of seconds when the game ended, that this

636
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: avalanche of humanity was covering that court and then the

637
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Speaker 2: to it because they had to obviously different angles of it.

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00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: You know, these students, you know, not thinking, which is well,

639
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: remember that age when you're really not thinking, you're just reacting.

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00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: It only takes one student to go down, and then

641
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: you have a stampede of people that could potentially seriously

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Speaker 2: injure that student, and now the university is liable for it.

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00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: So and again the SEC has put rules in heavy

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Speaker 2: fine six figure finds of these universities to discourage this

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Speaker 2: kind of behavior, but the ACC has nothing. And so

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Speaker 2: the thing about having replays in different angles that we

647
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Speaker 2: can see what actually transpired, I mean, look at you

648
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Speaker 2: want to stampede the court, that's fine. I remember this

649
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: because down in San Diego, San Diego State basketball is

650
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Speaker 2: a huge thing down there at v AHAs Casino Vias Arena,

651
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Speaker 2: and they had an upset of the Nevada wolf Pack.

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Speaker 2: I don't know this about four or five years ago.

653
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Speaker 2: Nevada it was the ranked top tend of the country

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Speaker 2: and it was a big win for San Diego State.

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Speaker 2: And I remember specifically Eric Musselman was then the coach

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Speaker 2: at Nevada and now of course at Arkansas, and he

657
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Speaker 2: was able to get his team off the court before

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Speaker 2: they allowed everybody to come onto the court. I mean

659
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Speaker 2: they had they had the situation on the cur They

660
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Speaker 2: didn't ultimately prevent the student section and others that wanted

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Speaker 2: to come onto the court to celebrate the victory from

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Speaker 2: coming on the court. But it was after the Nevada

663
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Speaker 2: team and after left the court, and it just seemed organized.

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Speaker 2: There was still a lot of celebration on the court.

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Speaker 2: They were excited about a win over a big top

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Speaker 2: ten team, but there was order to it. So if

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Speaker 2: they could do it, anybody could do Its simple as that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I agree, I agree with a lot of what

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Speaker 1: you just said. I will also say part of the

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Speaker 1: game they experience is for I mean, and look that

671
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Speaker 1: there are so many different aspects to this. Right, you

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Speaker 1: go to a concert, it's an excuse for adults or

673
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Speaker 1: a concert festival, it's an excuse for adults sack like kids.

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Speaker 1: You go to Disneyland, now, I mean there's a whole

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Speaker 1: contingent of Disney adults. It's an excuse for adults tack

676
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Speaker 1: like kids. Again, sporting events. I mean, this is a

677
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Speaker 1: tail as old as time. If you're going to have

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people who are passionate about something in

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Speaker 1: tight confines and have tens of thousands of them together,

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Speaker 1: especially if the majority of them are rooting for one side, well,

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Speaker 1: these are the outcomes that can occur because that passion

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Speaker 1: sometimes spills over into action. And I don't know. I look,

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Speaker 1: I always I know this kind of feels like a deflection,

684
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Speaker 1: but it is true. I know somebody smarter than me

685
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Speaker 1: is going to have to come up with the answer

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Speaker 1: to this problem. I know that there are teams that

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Speaker 1: have handled it better in the past than others, but

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Speaker 1: I do right now as it stands. Right now now,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of a single solution that people will

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Speaker 1: universally accept. And I think it's going to require something

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Speaker 1: awful to happen before real change will occur, because I

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Speaker 1: just don't think it's a big enough problem for enough people,

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Speaker 1: and that's the reality of the situation.

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Speaker 2: All right, speaking of fan behavior, there's another form of

695
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Speaker 2: fan behavior that's in the news right now that honestly

696
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Speaker 2: I have a complete one eighty attitude about. In other words,

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Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it, while others do.

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Speaker 2: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve hartbin Rich Honberger,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the tirerack dot

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Speaker 2: Com studios. All Right, we've been talking a little bit

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Speaker 2: about fan behavior. We talked about storm and the courts.

702
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Speaker 2: We both have concerns about that. Here's something I have

703
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Speaker 2: no concern about, and I tell athletes turn the other way.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about verbal abuse.

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Speaker 2: So we had this incident the other day in Dallas

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Speaker 2: as the Phoenix Suns took the cord and Kevin Durant

707
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Speaker 2: hears a woman drop a B bomb on him and

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Speaker 2: he immediately turns around and confronts her about it. She

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Speaker 2: I love her attitude. She basically said, well, you know,

710
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Speaker 2: my brother sort of uses it as an endearing term

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Speaker 2: towards you. She actually extended her hand and then the

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Speaker 2: guy she's standing next to uh says that he has

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Speaker 2: a sports podcast.

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Speaker 3: The whole situation was.

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Speaker 2: Surreal, But I know that fan behavior when it when

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Speaker 2: comes to physical violence, obviously you have to draw the

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Speaker 2: line as far as verbal abuse. Maybe because I engaged

718
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Speaker 2: in it back in the day, I was pretty good

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Speaker 2: at laying out some pretty harsh words at opposing players,

720
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Speaker 2: composing coaches, and my voice is loud and carries, so

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Speaker 2: they were definitely heard. It just seems to me this

722
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Speaker 2: woman got what she wanted out of it, because if

723
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Speaker 2: he had just walked away and just ignored her, obviously

724
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Speaker 2: we wouldn't be talking about it. The only reason we're

725
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Speaker 2: talking about is a turn and he confronted her about

726
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Speaker 2: dropping a B bomb on him, And I just my

727
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Speaker 2: attitude about.

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Speaker 3: This, and maybe, you know, maybe I'm in the minority.

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. I don't see a big problem

730
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Speaker 2: with it. I you know, to me, it sort of

731
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Speaker 2: comes to the territory. If you're going to put yourself

732
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Speaker 2: on center state, maybe I should take it more serially

733
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Speaker 2: to Rich. But frankly, the only reason that any of

734
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Speaker 2: these people ever get any attention for what they say

735
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Speaker 2: is because of the reaction of the player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so two things here. I completely agree with

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Speaker 1: everything you just said, I don't think that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that overall. Actually, let me backtrack. I think that

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Speaker 1: in this country, over time, I think people have become

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Speaker 1: way too sensitive to words. I think words, oftentimes are

741
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Speaker 1: our best advocates. And whenever you try to censor somebody's

742
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Speaker 1: ability to say things that aren't dangerous or threatening, I

743
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Speaker 1: think we're heading to a bad place. Like it's a

744
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Speaker 1: great right that we all have expression of free speech.

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Speaker 1: It's the reason why we have jobs and people enjoy

746
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Speaker 1: hearing our opinions. It's good for everybody to be able

747
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Speaker 1: to speak as openly and honestly as they possibly can.

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Speaker 1: And she may have honestly thought Kevin Durant was a

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Speaker 1: bitch or whatever she called him, right, I mean, it

750
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Speaker 1: wasn't great. It's not a great representation of her, but

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Speaker 1: that's what she wanted to shout in a grown man's

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Speaker 1: face when he was taking the cord in Dallas. So

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Speaker 1: she did. And guess what, she's an idiot. And that's

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Speaker 1: the truth. Any fan who shows up, especially an adult,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of give a kid a pass,

756
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Speaker 1: but an adult fan who shows up to an arena

757
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Speaker 1: or a stadium and is screaming profanities at a player

758
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Speaker 1: is a loser, I mean a complete loser. Now, don't

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Speaker 1: get me wrong. I think you are fully well with

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Speaker 1: in your right to do that, and I have honestly

761
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Speaker 1: not that big of a problem with you doing it.

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Speaker 1: But you are a loser in my opinion. In my

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Speaker 1: opinion and maybe in other people's opinion too, it's just lame.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, who's it fun for you

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Speaker 1: for a moment and then what It's just kind of

766
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Speaker 1: like a weird thing to do. But if that's the

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Speaker 1: way you get your rocks off, so be it. We

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Speaker 1: have a free country. People have to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: I think Kevin Durant did the right thing if he

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Speaker 1: felt like addressing it, and you know, we move on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, it's it's it's a part of

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Speaker 1: it's a part of freedom. You get to say what

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Speaker 1: you want.

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Speaker 3: Just what is he gain? It's a lose lose for

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Speaker 3: him what he's gonna say.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he lost that anything.

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Speaker 2: Why are you talking? Why are you calling me that?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm not quite sure. Look at

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Speaker 2: anyone that is a hackler. I've seen this all the time.

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Speaker 2: What they want is the other person to react. That's

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Speaker 2: what your dream about, and in this case, this woman

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Speaker 2: got her wish as he reacted to it. Hi coming

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Speaker 2: up on the other side, we got a lot of

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Speaker 2: You know me, well, you know that my head swims

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Speaker 2: and history of sports stats, you know, I venture back

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Speaker 2: in time and I went down the rabbit hole. I

795
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Speaker 2: was watching a hour long documentary on the National Football

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Speaker 2: League during the nineteen fifties. It was a very formative

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Speaker 2: decade for the NFL as it was trying to essentially

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Speaker 2: escape national obscurity and actually project itself into the consciousness

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Speaker 2: of American sports fans. Because before nineteen sixty, if you

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Speaker 2: go back in the day, it was major League baseball,

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Speaker 2: college football, boxing, and really horse racing. We were like

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Speaker 2: the four major sports that were covered around the nation.

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Speaker 2: Professional football was not there, of course, the NBA was

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Speaker 2: in its infancy.

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Speaker 3: But the fifties was a changing time.

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Speaker 1: Show you how.

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Speaker 3: Primitive it was back in those days.

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Speaker 2: So you had a twelve team league, and the rosters

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Speaker 2: consisted of thirty three players, and you had two platoon

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Speaker 2: football right, I mean you had twenty two players that started.

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Speaker 2: I mean you only had eleven reserves. There were no

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Speaker 2: specialists in those days. The kicking was done by punting

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Speaker 2: was you know, by players that were position players. The

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Speaker 2: player salaries on average somewhere between nine and twelve thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a year. Not only did players have off season jobs,

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Speaker 2: they actually had in season jobs. So they would go

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Speaker 2: then go to their afternoon job. During the season. There

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Speaker 2: were no rules in the game. I mean you talk

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Speaker 2: about a rough sport. That was a man's game. I mean, yeah,

821
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Speaker 2: close lines, anything went. But the nature of the sport

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Speaker 2: suddenly caught on, of course, highlighted by that infamous overtime

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Speaker 2: game Johnny and IDAs and the coltspeeding and the Giants

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Speaker 2: and of course the rest is history. Well, this week

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Speaker 2: it came out that the NFL salary cap per team

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Speaker 2: is now over two hundred and fifty million dollars. That's

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Speaker 2: a quarter of a billion dollars. And where's this money

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Speaker 2: come from. This is the equally distributed TV revenue, which

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Speaker 2: is the same as the cap.

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Speaker 3: This is a thirty million dollar.

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Speaker 2: Increase from a year ago, unprecedented in the history since

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Speaker 2: they instituted the South recap. So, before we get into

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Speaker 2: some of the specifics he're rich of how certain teams

834
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Speaker 2: are affected by this incredible increase. There seems to be

835
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Speaker 2: no end in sight. But let's talk about how money

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Speaker 2: in general affects the players, affects the owners, just affects

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Speaker 2: the game of football, the richest sport by leapyers in

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Speaker 2: this country. What are your thoughts about this seemingly endless

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Speaker 2: stream of money pouring in and how it affects, let's

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Speaker 2: just say, the mindset of the players. Let's start with that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think it's well deserved. I think

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Speaker 1: that whenever you have something this popular, this sustainable, and

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Speaker 1: this dangerous, throw that into the equation. Because it's a

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Speaker 1: one injury rate. Obviously, not everybody is tearing something off

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Speaker 1: the bone or lacerating a ten in or you know,

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Speaker 1: or you know, having an injury that's going to keep

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Speaker 1: them on the sideline for a year plus. But sometimes

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00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: that happens, and then also there's injuries that echo into

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Speaker 1: your post career. And I know there's a lot of

850
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: dangerous jobs out there, and I think many of them

851
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: are what keep the infrastructure of this country together and

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: inarguably are more important than football players. However, not there

853
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: aren't hundreds of thousands of people or millions of people

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Speaker 1: showing up every year every day on social media to

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Speaker 1: check in and see about those types of professions. But

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Speaker 1: with NFL players, they are, and it's only becoming more popular.

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Speaker 1: With fantasy football, with legalized sports betting and in all

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Speaker 1: these states you know, available at your fingertips on your phones,

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Speaker 1: people are even more enthusiastic about football than they were before.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's deserved. I think that these owners

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Speaker 1: get an enormous cut of the pie, and rightfully so,

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Speaker 1: because they're footing the bill for these teams in these franchises.

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Speaker 1: But they're getting an enormous cut of the pie, and

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Speaker 1: it's split amongst a very limited amount of people, whereas

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Speaker 1: the other part of the pie, you know, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: the ownership group, it's it's thirty two people. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're able to pay Roger Goodell something something like fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year to be the commissioner of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: you know, or some part of fifty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: You know. The reason why is because it's operation human shield.

871
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: Every time something negative happens with the NFL, he's the

872
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: one who has to go brunt, the bear, the brunt

873
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: of the public relations for it. While the owners, you know,

874
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: they're able to hide in their offices and you know,

875
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: have committees discuss what they want Roger to talk about

876
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: next publicly and all those things.

877
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 5: You know.

878
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 1: So these thirty two owners, they're making the other side

879
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: of that half of the half a billion dollars Intel

880
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: Vision Network revenue, and then the two hundred and fifty

881
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: million dollars on the other side is being split amongst

882
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: what two thousand or so players on an annual basis

883
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I think it's very fair. I

884
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: think it obviously has an impact on the game. How

885
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: couldn't it. But it's it's it's one hundred percent appropriate.

886
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: If it weren't, then less people would be interested in,

887
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: and then they wouldn't be making as much money as

888
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: they do. See.

889
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: I have a couple thoughts about this. First of all,

890
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: what's amazing to me because you know, we watch NBA

891
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 2: Basketball and we understand that the players are in firm

892
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: control of that league. They prove that at the All

893
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: Star Game. I mean, you had the commissioner come out

894
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: and say, we need to create a far more competitive

895
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: game in our showcase All Star Game, and the player's

896
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: response was three hundred ninety seven points and three fouls.

897
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: Three fouls were called in that game three hundred ninety

898
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: seven points. So they basically step back in this face, like,

899
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: we decide how we want to run this league.

900
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: And it just seems amazing to me.

901
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: In a sport where by far the richest sport, the

902
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 2: players still don't have control.

903
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: They don't get guaranteed contracts.

904
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, you know some of the quarterbacks get

905
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: guaranteed money. In a sport that has such potential danger

906
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: while you're playing, after you're playing, what are the players

907
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 2: going to get more control?

908
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: I mean, here's this is just.

909
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Always amazing to me about the NFL. So when you

910
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: talk about the owners fitting the bill. The owners aren't

911
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: paying a penny in these salaries. In other words, the

912
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,720
Speaker 2: guaranteed equal revenue from the television money equates to the cap.

913
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: That's not one penny out of their pockets. So what

914
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: are they responsible for financially, Well, they have to pay

915
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: their coaches.

916
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: That comes out of their pocket.

917
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: Maybe bonuses and their everything else of your restruction of

918
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: your deals. But if i'm the players union, they are

919
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: so weak in the NFL because you talk about being

920
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: in a position of power, and yet somehow the owners

921
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: maintain firm control of the NFL in terms of the

922
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: distarb mession of money. We have no documentation about how

923
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: much coaches are making in the NFL. We have no

924
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 2: way of knowing how much money the owners are actually

925
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 2: putting into their pockets.

926
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: None. Well, that's not unique to the NFL.

927
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: I understand that.

928
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: But that's that's every single sports league and that'll always

929
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: be the case because they can operate as nonprofits.

930
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: Well, but here's the thing.

931
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: The point is, though, we do get a chance to

932
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: get a sneak peek because of the one team that's

933
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: not owned by an owner, and that's the green Bay Package.

934
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: A publicly owned team has to reveal their books.

935
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: I just I just I what is the NFL going

936
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: to get to the point like other sports that when

937
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 2: you sign a contract, regardless of your availability, the injury situation.

938
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: Is going to be fully guaranteed.

939
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: I think you're very passionate about something that not a

940
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: lot of people care about. I understand your passion, and

941
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of players who feel very similarly.

942
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's a popular thing to complain about,

943
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: because what fan of the NFL is going you know, geez,

944
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is my favorite player. God, I love him.

945
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: He's incredible. He throws the ball so far, he's a

946
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: great improvisor whenever they need a crucial third down, you know,

947
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: whether he's doing it with his legs or his arm,

948
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: he's delivering in those clutch moments like he is just gosh,

949
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: he's the cat's pajamas, Like I love him. Well, nobody's

950
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: Nobody's next step in that thought logically is gosh, I

951
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: just hope the Chiefs pay him so much more money,

952
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: Like nobody. Nobody really cares about that part of it.

953
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: The players certainly do. I do as a former player,

954
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: I want to see all players get as much money

955
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: as they can during this very narrow earning window, but

956
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,280
Speaker 1: nobody really cares whether a union is all that strong

957
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: or not. I think the only time fans really care

958
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: about that stuff is if it starts having a negative

959
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: impact on the game, which I think has happened in

960
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: the NBA. I do think that anytime there's a power

961
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: dynamic where one side has too much power, it can

962
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: ruin the sport. You know, if the owners have too

963
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: much power, or if the players. In the NBA, we've

964
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: seen a shift as of late, it feels like the

965
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: NFL or the NBA Players Association has more power than

966
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the governors or the owners in that league,

967
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: and as a result, you're seeing load management affect the

968
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: ability for fans to show up to an arena on

969
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: any given night and see their player on the court,

970
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: their favorite player on the court. That never happens in

971
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, you're seeing situations where as a result,

972
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: like the NBA is trying to scramble and find different

973
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: ways to become more relevant. Like an ND season tournament,

974
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: the players openly mock this idea. You had players getting

975
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: to the podium after games and people going, hey, how

976
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: about it. The n season tournament is up and running,

977
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: and they were going, oh, that was an nd season

978
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: tournament game, And like, I got to be honest with you,

979
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know how this works. Hahahaha, chuckle, chuckle,

980
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: move on to the next question, Like it's not good.

981
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: So I do agree with what you're saying. I do

982
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: think that the NFL needs to work on its strength

983
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 1: and collective bargaining agreements, and it's positioning as far as

984
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 1: you know it its ability to against their ownership group.

985
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: But the reality of the situation is fans just don't

986
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: care unless it has an impact on how they enjoy

987
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: the game.

988
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: Well, on the other side, we're going to get into

989
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: right now how teams are affected by this cap. It's

990
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: obviously welcome news for several teams that at least in

991
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: the moment, are over the cap, so there's a little more.

992
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: Room to wiggle with.

993
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: But I want to get to the quarterback position and

994
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 2: the reality for thirty.

995
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 3: One teams in this league. We'll explain.

996
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Ornberger.

997
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Sunday.

998
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: We are live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

999
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: So Rich there's a.

1000
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Dilemma for thirty one teams in the NFL. The dilemma

1001
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: for these thirty one teams is their quarterback is not

1002
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. To sort of put in perspective, Mahomes versus

1003
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: the field and the distance between Mahomes and the field.

1004
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 3: Let me give you some numbers.

1005
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: So right now in the NFL, assuming that Joe Flacco

1006
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: goes back to his couch after his late season pickup

1007
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: by the Cleveland Browns, there are only three other quarterbacks

1008
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: active in the NFL that have won a Super Bowl.

1009
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, who sat out last season with a blown

1010
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: achilles will make a comeback or attempt to make a

1011
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 2: comeback with the Jets as a forty year old quarterback.

1012
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, who even though technically is still a Denver Bronco,

1013
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: does not seem to be in favor.

1014
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 3: By that organization.

1015
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 2: And Matthew Stafford, who's certainly at the tail end of

1016
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: his career. To narrow the field even more, yes.

1017
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: Mahomes has the same number of Super Bowl wins as

1018
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: those three combined.

1019
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: Correct, And if you really want to narrow the field,

1020
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 2: only one of those guys, Ashley was a super Bowl MVP,

1021
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 2: and that was Aaron Rodgers. So think about that, there's

1022
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: only one other active quarterback in the league outside of

1023
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes who's been a three time Super Bowl MVP,

1024
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: that has won a Super Bowl MVP, and that was

1025
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers at super Bowl forty five. He's forty years old,

1026
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: and his return to the NFL is you know, questionable

1027
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: coming up and blown achilles at the stage of his career.

1028
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: So these thirty one teams find themselves in the rear

1029
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: view mirror. So again my question is this when we

1030
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: talk when we use the term franchise quarterback, Well, this

1031
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: team's got a franchise quarterback. I guess what is your

1032
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: definition of a franchise quarterback. If your goal as an

1033
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 2: organization is to be competitive, then I guess you lower

1034
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: the standard of what you term a franchise quarterback. But

1035
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 2: if your goal is to win championships, then there really

1036
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: is only one team in this league that has a

1037
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. That would be the Kansas City Chiefs. So

1038
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: I just find it interesting right now when these when

1039
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 2: you know, we look at the draft coming up and

1040
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: potential quarterbacks and this we go through this routine every

1041
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: single year, right half a dozen quarterbacks? Could this be

1042
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 2: the next franchise quarterback? In my opinion, when we say

1043
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: how many teams currently have a franchise quarterback? If you

1044
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 2: really want to take it to the true definition of

1045
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback, which in my opinion, is a quarterback who

1046
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: is not only a championship potential quarterback, but actually has

1047
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 2: done it. And in this case, I Mahomes multiple times.

1048
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 2: So to me, right now there are thirty one teams

1049
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: in search of what I define as a true franchise quarterback.

1050
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I guess you're taking a highly subjective

1051
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 1: term and you're making it impossible to attain because there's

1052
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: only one Patrick Mahomes. I truly look at him as

1053
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: not a generational talent, but in my opinion, the most

1054
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: talented quarterback we've ever seen. So it's like it's literally,

1055
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: in my opinion, taking the best example of anything, right,

1056
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: best whatever it is, any field car maker, best best CEO,

1057
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: best company innovator, or in this case, best athlete on

1058
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: a football field, or not even athlete on a football field,

1059
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: because there's been better athletes than Patrick Mahomes. But I

1060
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: truly think the most talented quarterback we've ever seen in

1061
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: the NFL and saying and now that's the standard. And

1062
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: anybody else who doesn't have Patrick Mahomes, they're going to

1063
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: be searching and searching and searching until they finally find theirs.

1064
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: They may never you know, who knows, if Patrick Mahomes,

1065
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: if anybody. I mean, there was a stretch of time

1066
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: where you know, Tom Brady seemed untouchable, and I'm talking

1067
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: about his records. You know, I never thought he was

1068
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: the most talented quarterback in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers, in

1069
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: my opinion, was talented during that run. But Tom Brady

1070
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: just had some intangible qualities that in crunch time aided

1071
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: him better than potentially Aaron Rodgers, and also had some

1072
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: better teams at times, better defenses. Certainly, there was a

1073
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: lot of things I go into making a quarterback great

1074
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: in terms of their ability to win, but talent. Patrick

1075
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: Momes is the most talented guy I've ever seen. And

1076
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: so I don't look at a franchise quarterback through that lens.

1077
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: I look at it through this lens. Do we have

1078
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback who can if things around him go well,

1079
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, we surround him with some talent, We catch

1080
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: a couple of breaks. We have a decent team. Can

1081
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: he elevate our roster enough to help us to the

1082
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: playoffs year after year after year. If the answer is yes,

1083
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 1: you have a franchise quarterback in my opinion, So I

1084
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: look at I look at a Justin Herbert. I look

1085
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: at a Joey Burrow. I look at Josh Allen, I

1086
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: look at a Lamar Jackson, I look at Let's see

1087
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: who else would I include in like the I could see,

1088
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: I could see their talents guaranteeing your playoff berths. With

1089
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: those other boxes I just mentioned checked, there's probably ten

1090
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: to shoot, probably ten to twelve of those quarterbacks. Dak

1091
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: Prescott is one of them. You know, there's probably ten

1092
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 1: to twelve of those guys around the NFL. And then

1093
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: after that you're in this second tier. And that's a big,

1094
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: beefy second tier where it's quarterbacks who don't guarantee you

1095
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: that their ability or their play is going to get

1096
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: you into the postseason every year. And I think it's

1097
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: those teams those places that are going to be searching

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00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: for obviously their next Patrick Mahomes or the next Patrick Mahomes,

1099
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: but if they can't find them, Well, they'll settle for

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00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback because that still puts you in the

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: conversation of the playoffs every year.

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Speaker 2: All right, again, I don't know where you're setting. Where

1103
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: you're setting in the bar my sending bar two different things.

1104
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: Let's talk about two quarterbacks. Let's start with Dak Prescott.

1105
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 2: So Jerry Jones delay in getting a deal done with

1106
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: Prescott now with this huge jump in the cap, is

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01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: gonna cost him. I mean, we're looking at a quarterback

1108
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: now who's gonna make north of sixty million dollars a year.

1109
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 2: His postseason record is two and five. I mean to me,

1110
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't care what kind of numbers you put up

1111
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: in the regular season. A quarterback who is two and

1112
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: five in postseason play, in my opinion, is not a

1113
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. Could I get somebody else in there with

1114
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: the talent that the Dallas Cowboys have that could put

1115
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: up a comparable number in the postseason?

1116
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Speaker 3: I think I could.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 2: I think I could get another quarterback in there with

1118
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: all that talent around, and that could put up a

1119
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 2: two and five record in the postseason. So why am

1120
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Speaker 2: I gonna pay this guy sixty five million? Dollars a year.

1121
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense. Lamar Jackson is in the

1122
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 2: same situation. He has had a couple of incredible regular

1123
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: season runs that has enabled him to win regular season

1124
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: MVP awards, but his postseason I don't think so. So

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01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: I again, I guess like what you're saying, Hey, you know,

1126
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: if everything goes right, can he win a championship around him? Well,

1127
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: that's another way of saying is you could say that

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01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: about any quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You can say that. You basically say that if if

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01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: he's head, if you have a decent team, do you

1131
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: have a quarterback who can elevate a decent team to

1132
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: make them a playoff contender every single year? That with

1133
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: this quarterback, he guarantees as all you have to do

1134
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: is around decent defense, decent offense around him that he

1135
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: can elevate. You know this, this quarterback can elevate a

1136
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: roster to get you into a postseason. And my answer

1137
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: is then that's a franchise quarterback. And Lamar Jackson is

1138
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: that guy that seems.

1139
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: To me to be a replaceable quarterback. In other words,

1140
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: if he has all the.

1141
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: Right every quarterback he's replaceable.

1142
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we talk about a guy like Brock Party, right,

1143
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: and so those are a critical of Rock Party is

1144
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: that he is surrounded by more offensive talent than any

1145
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: other quarterback in this league, plus the best offensive tackle

1146
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: in the league. So all he has to do is

1147
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: get out there and not screw things up.

1148
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Speaker 1: It's britic toss a quarterback that's a franchise quarterback because

1149
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: the grass is always greener on the other side until

1150
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: it isn't. So if you're gonna be Jerry Jones and

1151
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna play that game where you replace the Dak

1152
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: Prescott who over the span of his time as a

1153
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: quarterback has gotten you double digit wins. I don't know

1154
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: how many times, but it's a lot and has gotten

1155
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: you into the postseason enough times that he has, you know,

1156
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: a two to five record. Now, look, I I'm with you.

1157
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: I think that there have been performances in the postseason

1158
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: that Dak has this offseason or a postseason not excluded,

1159
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: where Dak has left something to be desired. And it's

1160
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: a concern, and it should be concerning for a team

1161
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: that so often gets to that point because along with

1162
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: that franchise quarterback getting you to the postseason, the fan

1163
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: base expectations rise, and all of a sudden, the spotlight

1164
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: gets shined on the coaches where they're saying, hey, we

1165
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: have this great quarterback in the regular season, why can't

1166
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: you get him to perform better in the postseason. Well,

1167
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean that was what was happening in Kansas City

1168
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith, and then Kansas City the front office

1169
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: and the head coach decided to go out and find

1170
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:27,479
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in the draft and they upgraded. But that's

1171
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: not always the case. There are plenty of times where

1172
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: a team thinks that they're upgrading and they downgrade, and

1173
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: that's happened many, many times over. So it's a risky

1174
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: business you speak of.

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 3: No, it's a risky business.

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of teams are sitting and

1177
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: over pain on quarterbacks that ultimately are very replaceable because

1178
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 2: that's what well.

1179
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Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on. Dak Prescott's a good example of

1180
01:03:55,560 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: a guy he is replaceable, whose contract has a Because

1181
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: right now you just mentioned it the going rate for

1182
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I mean you're talking about the next quarterback

1183
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: who signs a contract is probably going to be signing

1184
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: a contract for something nearing or above sixty million. Dollars

1185
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: a year.

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01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: But why are you sticking with somebody where you've seen

1187
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: the results, the same results over and over again. You know,

1188
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,479
Speaker 2: we talk about the definition of insanity doing the same

1189
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: thing over and over and expecting different results. Why should

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01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: we expect any different results coming from a Dak Prescott

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01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: or a Lamar Jackson when it comes to the postseason.

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I'm not debating that, or you, Josh Allen, if you

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01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: want to throw another guy in there who's been at

1194
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: it over and over and over again, why should we

1195
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: expect any different Now you're you're changing the debate a

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: couple times over here. We were discussing earlier about what

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: I believe a franchise quarterback versus what you think a

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback is. And you you think a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 1: is Patrick Mahomes and no one else.

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Speaker 3: That is great.

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I say there's probably I say there's probably ten or

1202
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: twelve in the league because we have a different definition

1203
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: in terms of this part of the conversation. Yeah, Well,

1204
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: when the Bills fan base has spent all this money

1205
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: on tickets season ticket prices, and the Baltimore Ravens fan

1206
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: base has spent all this money on season ticket prices,

1207
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 1: and when the Dallas fan base has spent all this

1208
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: money on season ticket prices and the results are the

1209
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: same every single time the team gets into the postseason. Yeah,

1210
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: you know there are times where you need to address that.

1211
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: But again the caution is it's not always greener on

1212
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: the other side, and oftentimes it's.

1213
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 3: Way worse all right on the other side.

1214
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: I want to get to the draft and really take

1215
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 2: a hard look at this draft in terms of teams

1216
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: that are sitting on quarterbacks that they deem franchise quarterbacks

1217
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 2: that may may maybe they should consider otherwise. But first let's.

1218
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: Find out what is trending right now.

1219
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 2: And Amonsu we had some of this discussion yesterday.

1220
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 9: Did and I said a lot of what Rich said

1221
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 9: about Tag Prescott.

1222
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 8: It's like he is your franchise.

1223
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 9: Quarterback because Steve wants everyone.

1224
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 8: To find their Patrick Mahomes And I was like, you

1225
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 8: can't Patrick Mahomes put.

1226
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 2: Him out of the question, like he is not court

1227
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: the court Again, what is what is the definition of

1228
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback? Now, again, if you're if your goals for

1229
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 2: your franchise is just to remain competitive and you know,

1230
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: sort of be in the mix for the playoffs. Fine,

1231
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 2: if that's where you set the bar, I'd set the

1232
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: bar much higher. My idea of a franchise quarterback is

1233
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 2: a guy that can win me championships and actually has

1234
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 2: proven he can win a championship.

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01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 3: That's not always up to you though.

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01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 11: That's not always up to like, that's not an available

1237
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 11: thing for every team. And if you're just sitting around

1238
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 11: trying to do that every year, you'll end up. Honestly,

1239
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 11: I get. I'll get to you, Chris.

1240
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: And your franchise quarterback in a second. All right, what

1241
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: do we got launch?

1242
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 8: All right, let's check in on the NBA fellas.

1243
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 9: It's been all Bucks so far against the seventy six

1244
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 9: ers in Philly. Seventy nine sixty three is the score

1245
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 9: halfway through the third quarter. Jana Santa Tekumpo leading all

1246
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 9: scores with eighteen. Damian Lillard has seventeen points so far

1247
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 9: in the game.

1248
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 8: But there is other NBA news.

1249
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 9: So hawkstar Trey Young has been ruled out for today's

1250
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 9: game against the Magic due to an injury to his

1251
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 9: left pinky finger. The team has announced that he's going

1252
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 9: to undergo surgery to repair a ligament tear. He's going

1253
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 9: to be reevaluated in four weeks. Atlanta is currently in

1254
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 9: tenth place in the Eastern Conference.

1255
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 8: They definitely need Trey Young.

1256
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 9: There was an altercation on Friday night between the Heat

1257
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 9: and the Pelicans. So the league has suspended Jimmy Butler

1258
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 9: and Naji Marshall one game.

1259
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 8: For instigating and engaging.

1260
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 9: They've suspended Heat center Thomas Bryant, Pelicans guard Jose Alvado

1261
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 9: three games for leaving the bench and then fighting each

1262
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 9: other I think, and then Heat forward Nikola Jovich one

1263
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 9: game for leaving the bench area.

1264
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 8: So this all happened Friday night. All of those suspensions

1265
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 8: just went out.

1266
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 9: In Major League Baseball, overnight, the Cubs decided to resign

1267
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 9: Cody Bellinger a three year, eight million dollar contract. You

1268
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 9: guys were talking to John Palmer Rossi in the last hour,

1269
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 9: and he said that the Yankees are a team that

1270
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 9: are not being given credit where credit is due based

1271
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 9: on Juan Soto.

1272
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: No one wants to get the Yankees credit, right do.

1273
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 8: You know that they don't? But Juan Soto homered in

1274
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 8: his first game. Is a Yankee. So John Palmer Rosi onto.

1275
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 9: Something and on the ice, the Lightning are beating the

1276
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 9: Devil's two to one.

1277
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 8: They're about to end the second period.

1278
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: Back to you guys, all right, Monsie, thank you very

1279
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 3: very much.

1280
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: All right, Richard, before we get started, I want to

1281
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: direct my attention to Bo and to Chris right now,

1282
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: because these are adamant fans of their individual teams. Bo

1283
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: with the Eagles, and even though he doesn't want to

1284
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 2: be labeled a fan because he broadcasts you know, you

1285
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: know about the Lions, he's a Lions fan. All right,

1286
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: let's start with you, Bob. In your opinion, do the

1287
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: Eagles have a franchise quarterback in Jalen Hurts.

1288
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 12: He's getting paid paid like one, so that's not the question. Yes,

1289
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 12: I think so. I think he had a bad year

1290
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 12: last year. This will be the doer die here.

1291
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: All right.

1292
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 2: So you believe the Eagles have a quarterback that is

1293
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback in Jalen Ertz, I direct the question

1294
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 2: to you Christ. The Detroit Lions have a franchise quarterback

1295
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:14,520
Speaker 2: in Jared Goff.

1296
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: For about the next three years.

1297
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 11: Yes, okay, I don't expect this contract to be long,

1298
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 11: but the reality is that they will extend him this offseason.

1299
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: In both cases, these are quarterbacks that have taken their

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Speaker 2: teams to way Super Bowl. Obviously Goff did it with

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Speaker 2: the Rams and lost those Super Bowls. All right, So

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Speaker 2: I guess that gets you a little step closer right

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Speaker 2: to being a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, rich Joe Burrow. We love

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, right.

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01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: We have a problem with Joe Burrow, hopefully it will

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01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 2: not continue, and that is just trying to stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: He's had two of his seasons already ended with injuries.

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Speaker 2: His magical run with the Bengals, beating Mahomes along the

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 2: way on the road no less, to get the Bengals

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Speaker 2: into the Super Bowl, and everyone was all over the

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01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: New Broadway Joe, and it seems to have stalled, partly

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01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 2: obviously because he hasn't been able to stay healthy. Do

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Speaker 2: you put him in the category as a franchise quarterback

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, yeah, because again my criteria for a franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterback is a quarterback when you have a decent team

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Speaker 1: around him, he can elevate that team to make them

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Speaker 1: annual or perennial playoff contenders. And that's Joe Burrow to

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Speaker 1: a tee in fact, everything he just said about Joe Burrow,

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01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: he very easily could have said and did say about

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01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson a year ago, an often injured superstar quarterback

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Speaker 1: who needs to stay on the field for his team

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:52,520
Speaker 1: to have a sniff at any long term success, and

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Speaker 1: he managed to stay healthy this season, turned in another

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Speaker 1: MVP performance in the regular season, and then look, the

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are one of those teams like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: like the Bills, like the Dallas Cowboys, who now in

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Speaker 1: the postseason they have an issue because they can't quite

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Speaker 1: get over the hump. And I don't blame Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: flee for the Baltimore Ravens issues. I don't blame Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen fully for the Buffalo Bills issues in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: and I certainly don't Dak Prescott either. But they are

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: going to bear the weight of this criticism because we

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01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: oftentimes we put way too much blame and praise on

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL, and so that's what's happening in

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Speaker 1: those cities. But as far as the Bengals go, they're

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01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: right where the Baltimore Ravens were with Lamar Jackson. They

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01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: need to find a way and maybe it's just luck,

1341
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: but they need to get lucky and have Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: stay healthy so they can have a chance.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me give you another team, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Do they have a franchise quarterback in Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: That's a quarterback that I would not include in the

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01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback conversation. I have some doubts over Trevor Lawrence.

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 1: I think he got handed a really and I mean

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01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: got dealt one of the worst hands in professional football

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01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 1: when he had Urban Meyer as his coach his rookie year.

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01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: So I give him a ton of excuses. In the

1351
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: second act with Doug Peterson obviously looked a lot better.

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01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: But we're going to need to see a lot more

1353
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: out of Trevor Lawrence as he's approaching contract time himself.

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01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: He's not quite there yet, but he's approaching that time

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 1: to really engage people in this conversation, like he's going

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01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:50,320
Speaker 1: to be the guy who guarantees you playoff contention, because

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: as it stands right now, that Jacksonville defense is really

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01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: what carried that Jacksonville Jaguar squad throughout the majority of

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Speaker 1: that regular season. The offense, the offense really sputtered a lot,

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence had obviously a lot to do with it,

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Speaker 1: as most starting quarterbacks do all right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to get into a

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Speaker 2: little more detail on teams that we can by your definition,

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01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: not my definition, because I made it clear there's only

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: one franchise quarterback in the league, and that's Patrick Maholmes.

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Speaker 2: But by your more lenient description of a franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 2: teams in this year's draft that should be looking at

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Speaker 2: quarterback who may be fully now, we're good.

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01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 3: We just need to surround them with a little more talent.

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Speaker 3: We're going to break it down.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin and Rich Orenberger

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the ti iraq

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. I know it's early, still got a

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01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: ways to go before we get to the NFL drive

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01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: got a little free agency to take care of in

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Speaker 2: the meantime, But we're trying to define franchise quarterbacks. And

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01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: now I'm going to defer one hundred percent to Rich

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 2: because I'm sure the majority of you think I am

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01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 2: completely unreasonable to think there's only one team that.

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Speaker 3: Actually has a franchise quarterback.

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 2: But again, I have a higher standard than many many people,

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01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 2: so Rich, I'm using your definition alone in terms of

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01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback. I want to look at the NFL

1384
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: draft and the teams you believe have a franchise quarterback.

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: We'll start at the top of the Bears. Do they

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01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 2: have a franchise quarterback right now?

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01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: No, no, they don't, but they potentially do, and it

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01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: puts them in a really odd situation. So I don't

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01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: think that Fields can be considered a franchise quarterback as

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: it stands right now, because I don't think what he's

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01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 1: shown can guarantee you, if you build a decent team

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01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: around him, that he can elevate a roster to guarantee

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01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: you playoff contention every year. You know, with things going right,

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01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: some a reasonable amount of luck on your side, people

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: stay healthy and things like that that you have to

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01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: assume for most teams that are making the postseason. I

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01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 1: just I don't see it yet. However, he has the

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01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: potential to be that guy, and he's growing towards that,

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01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 1: and so, gosh, you know, tricky situation for the beer

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: for the Bears. Do they trade him and do they

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01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: then shift that potential of having a franchise quarterback from

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01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: Fields to Williams or whoever it is they take with

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01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 1: the first overall pick, or do they trade that pick

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01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: down and they try to surround Justin Fields with more talent,

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01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: some more protection on the offensive line. You know. So, no,

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01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: I would not say, as it stands right now, the

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01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: Bears have a franchise quarterback. But I'm not going to

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01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: rule out that Justin Fields can't be well a franchise courter.

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01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: And think about it, if you do think he is

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01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, not only do you have the first

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01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 2: pick in the draft, you have the ninth pick in

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01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: the draft, which you can either keep those premium picks

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: and make great choices hopefully, or even trade down and

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: stockpile a lot of picks to surround your franchise quarterback.

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01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 3: If he did think Fields, is that guy?

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: All right?

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01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 3: A couple teams? I think we both agree that Ganders

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: do not have.

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01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 2: A franchise quarterback and the New England Patriots do not

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Speaker 2: have a franchise quarterback. All right, Let's skip on to

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Speaker 2: number four, the Arizona Cardinals. Is Kyler Murray a franchise quarterback?

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01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: Yes? He's a franchise quarterback, and I think if the

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 1: Cardinals did a better job surrounding him with talent and

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: had now. Don't get me wrong, I think some of

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: the same things that have emerged with some of the

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01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the league, like the Josh Allens, like

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: the Dak Prescotts, like the Lamar Jacksons. You know, do

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: I believe Kyler can get you to the postseason? Yeah? Do?

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: I think he's a championship level quarterback. I have sincere doubts,

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01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: but I do think that with a decent team around him,

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01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's the type of talent who can elevate a

1432
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: roster and get you into playoff contention on a perennial basis.

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: All Right, City at number five, a quarterback that looks

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01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: a whole lot like his predecessor, immensely talented, but for

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01:16:56,160 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: some reason it hasn't translated into more victories, would be

1436
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert with the Chargers.

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01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: I do think he's a franchise quarterback. I am going

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01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: to lump him into the group of quarterbacks we were

1439
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: talking about before also, but in a different way. So

1440
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson their biggest issue was injuries,

1441
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:22,799
Speaker 1: and that really hampered the ability for or has hampered

1442
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: the ability for their teams to continuously have like a

1443
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: string of playoff appearances. Justin Herbert gets banged up a lot,

1444
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: and it's not all Justin Herbert's fault. I think that

1445
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 1: he's had there's been a lot of complicating issues with that,

1446
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: with the protection that he receives. But they need to

1447
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 1: keep that guy healthy. He needs to keep himself healthy.

1448
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to make better choices with his body

1449
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: sometimes when he's scrambling with the football and things of

1450
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 1: that nature, because he's been banged up over the past

1451
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: two seasons and it's affected his play. But I do

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01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: think he's a franchise quarterback. I don't think the Chargers

1453
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: are going to be searching for a quarterback for a while.

1454
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 3: All Right, at number six we have the New York Giants.

1455
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,799
Speaker 2: Is davido Well, that's right, he's not the starting quarterback

1456
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones.

1457
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 3: Is he a franchise quarterback?

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01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: No, the jury has returned. With their decision, I wanted

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01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: to give him all of the and you know what,

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01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: like you said, I'm pretty lenient on quarterbacks overall. I

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: give the benefit of the doubt. I think this is

1462
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: a really difficult position to play, not just in football,

1463
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: but in all sports. It is the most difficult position

1464
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: to play. There's so much pressure, so much comes through

1465
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 1: you as the starting quarterback, and so I really did

1466
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: give Jones the benefit of doubt for a long time.

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01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 1: I do not think he's a franchise quarterback. I think

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01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: the Giants really put themselves in a bind, unfortunately signing

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01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 1: him to the contract they did, because their hands are

1470
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: tied to some you know, some dead money if they

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01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 1: want to move on from him. So I guess you're

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 1: going to have to try to put lipstick on a

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,599
Speaker 1: pig here for at very least the upcoming season. But

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: I do not think they have a franchise quarterback in

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01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones.

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01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: All right, I'll skip over the Titans and Falcons their

1477
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: quarterbacks situation for both those franchises very much in the length.

1478
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to number ten. Do the Jets have a

1479
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback in Aaron Rodgers.

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 1: Of course they do, but they are absolutely going to

1481
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: need to plan for the future.

1482
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: Would you draft a quarterback if one of the premier

1483
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 2: quarterbacks drops down to the number ten slot? Would you

1484
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: consider taking a quarterback at number ten overall? If you're

1485
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 2: the New York Jets.

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01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: There is absolutely no question in my mind that I

1487
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: would consider it. Here's the problem they have. It starts

1488
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: with Aaron and it ends with Rogers in terms of

1489
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 1: in terms of roster decisions. Aaron had his hands in

1490
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 1: every single roster decision that the New York Jets made

1491
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: an offseason ago. Are they going to allow him to

1492
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: do that again? Because they said that they were. They

1493
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: said that they were filling out the roster with players

1494
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: that they wanted on the team. But it was odd

1495
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: because it seemed like a lot of the same players

1496
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers wanted on the team. So there was

1497
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: definitely an Aaron Rodgers flavor to their roster decisions last offseason.

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01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: He is absolutely a franchise quarterback. But if I were

1499
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 1: in the situation where the Jets were in and I

1500
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: were shaping out that that roster, I would be looking

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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:23,919
Speaker 1: forward to the future at quarterback.

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01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 3: I'm be alum.

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01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: Three teams together quickly. Here the Vikings with a seemingly

1504
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: healthy Kirk Cutsins coming back from injury, Derek Carr with

1505
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: the Saints, Gino Smith with the Seahawks, are any of

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01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: those guys franchise quarterbacks?

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01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: Boy, that is the most Those three teams are the

1508
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: hardest debates we have on our hands.

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01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: All right, well, we're gonna get We're up against the

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01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: clock here. This is what I'm talking about. This is

1511
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: so critical and decision making at this time of the year, Like,

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01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: are we said at least for the couple of years,

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Speaker 2: gonna get to a little bit later on in this hour,

1524
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Speaker 2: but I want to carry on where we left off

1525
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: in the last hour. We're sort of trying to define

1526
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: how many NFL teams currently have what Rich Ormberger terms

1527
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback, and we left it off with a

1528
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 2: trio of teams with very similar situations. They have veteran

1529
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: quarterbacks that have had some success along the way, but

1530
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: are they currently franchise quarterbacks? The Vikings with Kirk Cousins,

1531
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,360
Speaker 2: the Saints and Derek Carr, and the Seahawks with Gino

1532
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 2: Smith had that a lot of pause, meaning I had

1533
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: to take a break because we were coming up on

1534
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. Now that you've had a

1535
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,440
Speaker 2: little time to digest the thought of those three quarterbacks

1536
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 2: in the now, are these franchise quarterbacks?

1537
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? The reason why I pause there is because I, look,

1538
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: it's a no for all three, but I wasn't gonna

1539
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: have enough time to explain that. Look again, the criteria

1540
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,799
Speaker 1: for me is a quarterback that guarantees you, with things

1541
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: going well around them, a chance at getting to the

1542
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: NFL postseason perennially. And I just can't say that with

1543
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: confidence when it comes to Derek Carr, Gino Smith or Kirk.

1544
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: Oh help me out with the thank you Kirk Cousins.

1545
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: I think Kirk is the closest it comes. I think

1546
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: that you could make an argument on an annual basis

1547
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: that he's right there or he is there. I think

1548
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins into a list like that's filled with names

1549
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: like Jared Goff, you know who, I feel like is

1550
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: probably deserving of some credit for both his success with

1551
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: the Rams and now is a new success with the Lions.

1552
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: He's been a common denominator for a lot of winning

1553
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: over the course of his career. I think the same

1554
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 1: argument could be made for Jellen Hurts, who, even though

1555
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: the postseason appearance was very disappointing this year and the

1556
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: majority of that, the way the regular season finished for

1557
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles this year was disappointing as well. I think

1558
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: he's on the boy he's on the lower end of

1559
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: that franchise quarterback list, but he certainly, in my mind,

1560
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 1: categorizes as a franchise quarterback. And so that's where like

1561
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys' names start to get a

1562
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: little muddy, right, they're they're lower down on the franchise

1563
01:23:53,479 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: quarterback list. They feel replaceable, and they probably are. But again,

1564
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 1: you run into this situation where you say, okay, so

1565
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: what if we do what a lot of teams do

1566
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: and we go out and we draft a quarterback in

1567
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 1: the first round. Who has high value even where we

1568
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,679
Speaker 1: selected them, maybe toward the end of the first round,

1569
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 1: middle of the first round, you know, or even in

1570
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the second round. My goodness, right, like the Tennessee Titans

1571
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: try to do twice with Levis and with Malik Willis

1572
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: before him. It doesn't work. Oftentimes it just doesn't work.

1573
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 1: You know, either the quarterbacks that you draft are not

1574
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: quite ready to make the jump, or you know they're

1575
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: they're they're not ready to take on the riggers of

1576
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: being a quarterback at the level and jumping in whenever

1577
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: it is that they're tasked to do to do so,

1578
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 1: whether the starter gets hurt or poor player otherwise, or

1579
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 1: bridge quarterback is really underwhelming and you have a better

1580
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: roster and you think you have a chance, so you

1581
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 1: give a young guy a chance, you know. So I

1582
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: could go on and on for days in those situations.

1583
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 1: But but circling back to Kirk Cousins, Gino Smith and

1584
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: a guy like Derek Carr again kirk Cousins's borderline. Those

1585
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: other two I do not consider them franchise quarterbacks.

1586
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:10,520
Speaker 2: You know, the irony of defining someone as a franchise quarterback.

1587
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: There is one team, well, there were several teams that

1588
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: made a quarterback change in twenty twenty three, but from

1589
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 2: a statistical standpoint, the team that ultimately made a decision

1590
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: to change quarterback that paid off the biggest in terms

1591
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: of upgrade statistically from that quarterback position by far. I

1592
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: know they was the Green Bay Packers replacing Aaron Rodgers

1593
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 2: with Jordan Love. Jordan Love's numbers in twenty twenty three

1594
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 2: were significantly better than Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty two,

1595
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: So they made a quarterback change and they paid off

1596
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: big statistically.

1597
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 1: He's no franchise quarterback.

1598
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: No team made a bigger upgrade quarterbacks statistically year to

1599
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:05,919
Speaker 2: year than the Green Bay Packers did by dumping Rogers

1600
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: and giving Jordan Love the ball.

1601
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, I think I'm look, I'm an Aaron

1602
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,480
Speaker 1: Rodgers fan in terms of him being a great quarterback

1603
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 1: and me believing in his talents as a quarterback. And

1604
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people who think he's

1605
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: on a decline and the injury, and I think all

1606
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen. I think he deserves a

1607
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: fair shake at having a healthy season before we say

1608
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,879
Speaker 1: he's on the decline. But a lot of the problems

1609
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: that the Green Bay Packers had were in some part

1610
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: due to a little bit of the side act going

1611
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: on with will there or won't they stick with Aaron Rodgers?

1612
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not blaming that on the Green Bay Packers.

1613
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 1: That was Aaron Rodgers' fault as well, but also on

1614
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 1: a very young team around him, who you know, again,

1615
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: he deserves some blame as well, but they're they're there

1616
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 1: were a lot of mistakes out there, and it's very

1617
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: difficult to operate when you're a veteran quarterback and you're

1618
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: working with young players and you don't feel like you're

1619
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: getting the most out of your roster because they're not

1620
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: connecting at the level you're connecting at. That was the

1621
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: reason why Tom Brady or I shouldn't say the reason.

1622
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: I think we're going to find out a lot more

1623
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: and more with this Apple plus Dynasty show that's going

1624
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 1: on every Friday. They dropped two new episodes. I'm very

1625
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: interested to see if there's further insights as to why

1626
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 1: he left. I know that in one of these episodes

1627
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: because they kind of gave a teaser leading up to

1628
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: the release that one of the biggest reasons why he

1629
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: left New England was because he didn't want to do

1630
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: it with Bill anymore. And so there's no question that's

1631
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: a big part of it. But another part of it

1632
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: was that roster was barren. Those offensive players he was

1633
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: playing with, I mean, holy smokes, If they weren't playing

1634
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: with a talent at quarterback the level of Tom Brady,

1635
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have known any of their names. They were

1636
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,759
Speaker 1: pretty full in terms of the talent around that offense

1637
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. And so I give Aaron some excuses

1638
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: for that twenty twenty two year in green Bay, but

1639
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: I will say this about Jordan Love. I think Green

1640
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 1: Bay has knocked it out of the park. They went

1641
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: from Brett Farvre to Aaron Rodgers and it looks like

1642
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,840
Speaker 1: they found their next franchise quarterback. That's the type of

1643
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: quarterback who I think can elevate a roster into the postseason,

1644
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,400
Speaker 1: assuming things go well for you year after year after year.

1645
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: All right to me, there is one team that stands out.

1646
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: In fact, yesterday when Adam Kaplan joined us, it was

1647
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: my first question I asked them specifically about one team

1648
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: and who their starting quarterback will be in twenty twenty four,

1649
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 2: and it's a very intriguing team because they check so

1650
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: many boxes outside of the quarterback position. And that is

1651
01:28:55,800 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's complicated in Pittsburgh. There is a

1652
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Steeler way, and there's a Mike Tomlin way. And what

1653
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 2: he has asked, whether it's Kenny Picktt, Mason Rudolph, Trubisky, whoever,

1654
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:14,719
Speaker 2: quarterbacks they have floated in and out of there since

1655
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 2: the demise of Ben Roethlisberg, and this would actually include

1656
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:19,879
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger's last.

1657
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 3: Couple of years, is don't f this up. Just don't

1658
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: make any mistakes.

1659
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: I think the Steeler quarterbacks this past season gobye for

1660
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: nine interceptions. So when you have a great defense, but

1661
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: here's the problem is they actually have some skill guys.

1662
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 2: It's not like they're devoid of talent on the offensive

1663
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,879
Speaker 2: side of the football. And we saw that with Mason Rudolph.

1664
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: He actually started throwing the ball down the field and

1665
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: guess what, Wow, all of a sudden they got an offense.

1666
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1667
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 3: So you're not gonna blieve when I asked him this question.

1668
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 2: This is going to blow you away, because when you

1669
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 2: think about it, you'd say, all right, let's explore possibilities

1670
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: justin fields now you would have to sort of adjust

1671
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 2: your offense if you're you know, want to you know,

1672
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: uh uh, you know, get a guy in there like that,

1673
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 2: or even a veteran like Russell Wilson.

1674
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 3: How would that work? You know, would.

1675
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:09,080
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson be a good fit with Mike Tomlin? But

1676
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: he said Adams said, no, no, no, no. Who they just

1677
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 2: hires their offensive coordinator. The next quarterback of the Pittsburgh

1678
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Steelers is going to be Ryan Tannehill. And I'm thinking

1679
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 2: of Ryan Tannehill. I know he and Arthur Smith have

1680
01:30:24,040 --> 01:30:29,920
Speaker 2: a history together, But Ryan Tannehill for a franchise that

1681
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 2: you know is a playoff team already despite this big

1682
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 2: gaping hole in your in your quarterback position. But does

1683
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,919
Speaker 2: that make sense to you if you were the Pittsburgh Steelers,

1684
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 2: if you were sit down to advise Mike Tomlin in

1685
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 2: that organization on what is the glaring need for this

1686
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: team what you would term a franchise quarterback? We you

1687
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 2: give that team a franchise quarterback, especially in that division

1688
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: that is the most competitive division right now in the NFL.

1689
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 3: Think about the quarterbacks in that division.

1690
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, So who would you think would that

1691
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: you know, some of the available quarterbacks out there would

1692
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:14,480
Speaker 2: be the best fit that would actually give the Steelers

1693
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback they desperately need.

1694
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they may have to go into the draft.

1695
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I again, if they want to go with a borderline

1696
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 1: guy who's coming off of an injury. Kirk Cousins is available.

1697
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: It's one of those situations where there aren't a lot

1698
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: of terrific options. I mean, do you trade for Russell Wilson?

1699
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 1: What do you do? It's a situation where I get it,

1700
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill is available, and maybe you could continue to

1701
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: do what you did with Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee, or

1702
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: what the Tennessee Titans were doing with Ryan Tannehill, which

1703
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: is basically have him groom or or be the starting

1704
01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: quarterback while after quarterback behind him and hope it comes

1705
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 1: to fruition where one day Ryan's going to pass the

1706
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: torch to the younger quarterback on the roster. But but

1707
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: again that you know that, that's it's difficult, man, It's

1708
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: it's tough. I would say this, if they sign Ryan

1709
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Tannehill to a contract, it's going to be to a

1710
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 1: very low level contract. It most likely signals that they're

1711
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: going to go after somebody in the draft, you know,

1712
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 1: for him to be the starting quarterback when the season begins,

1713
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: and then for them to try to transition into another quarterback.

1714
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 1: But the Steelers have basically been doing that every year

1715
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: since Ben Roethlisberger retired. I mean, just look at what's

1716
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: happened over the past couple of years with the Steelers.

1717
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: It's been a mixed bag of unsuccessful tries and a

1718
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of misses at quarterback. So yeah, I would say

1719
01:32:54,040 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 1: a guy like Kirk Cousins is probably the closest you

1720
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: could get on the open market. You would be taking

1721
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: a real risk trading for Russell Wilson considering how poorly

1722
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 1: things have gone for him since he's left Seattle. But yeah,

1723
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 1: I mean, your options are limited if you're the Pittsburgh

1724
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 1: Steelers to basically trying to get it right in the draft.

1725
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 2: See the problem with Russell Wilson Because I'm look at

1726
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was a much better version in twenty twenty

1727
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 2: three with Sean Payton than he was the year before

1728
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,879
Speaker 2: with Hackett. Wasn't even close. It was an upgrade for him,

1729
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 2: but his personality. Can we all agree Russell Wilson is

1730
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:32,720
Speaker 2: a bit of a prima donna. Can we say that,

1731
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 2: maybe more so than some of the other quarterbacks in

1732
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 2: this league. I just don't know how that would mesh

1733
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 2: with Mike Tomlin.

1734
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 3: I just do not.

1735
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 2: And you can say, well, I mean Mike Tomlin not

1736
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: really running the offense. It's more about Arthur Smith than

1737
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: everything else.

1738
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1739
01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 2: Most successful coaches are tied to successful quarterbacks, and whether

1740
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 2: it's a strain relation, there seems to be a common bond.

1741
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,759
Speaker 2: I mean, Belichick and Rady would be a perfect example.

1742
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 2: Even though maybe it wasn't the friendliest relationship, there was

1743
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: a respect there on both sides and made that work

1744
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 2: over many, many years. But I just don't see Russell

1745
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Wilson with the Steelers. I don't see that.

1746
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't think I don't think Tomlin.

1747
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the organization would be all that interested. Yeah,

1748
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:29,160
Speaker 1: I also don't think that. Look, you know what. I

1749
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 1: don't want to comment on Russell Wilson personally because I

1750
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: don't know him personally, but I will say from what

1751
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 1: we've heard from former teammates now with both the Seattle

1752
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 1: Seahawks and and some of what we've heard sourced from

1753
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos locker room or from what we've heard

1754
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 1: from people who have left the Denver Broncos after Nathaniel

1755
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 1: Hackett left the team, it doesn't it doesn't sound like

1756
01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: it's gone particularly well with Russell or for Russell since

1757
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: he's left Seattle. So I would have serious concerns going

1758
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 1: after him and trade if you were, if you were

1759
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 1: any team, because sometimes look, system fit is important. Pete

1760
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: Carroll and the offensive staff that he put around him

1761
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: may he may have just gotten it perfectly right for

1762
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,559
Speaker 1: the run that they had, and then as soon as

1763
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: he saw the writing on the wall that this really

1764
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: wasn't working any longer, he moved on from Russell Wilson,

1765
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:30,680
Speaker 1: and he got the Seattle Seahawks a whole lot of

1766
01:35:30,760 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 1: draft capital in doing so. And it looked like they

1767
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: got it really right with Gino Smith first season, and

1768
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,719
Speaker 1: then it didn't look quite as right the next season

1769
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: after giving him a paycheck. So there's been a little

1770
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 1: regression there, And obviously the Seahawks now have moved on

1771
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: from Pete Carroll. But yeah, circling back to Russell Wilson,

1772
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: I think that you would have to find the perfect

1773
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: scenario for it to work for him, and I don't

1774
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 1: necessarily think that's in Pittsburgh, but we'll see. I mean, look,

1775
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to call these things because if you

1776
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: could get Russell Wilson for a song, like you know,

1777
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: if the trademarket is really slow for Russell Wilson and

1778
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 1: who knows. I mean, he's still caring.

1779
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,719
Speaker 3: He's still carrying a big number.

1780
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:17,360
Speaker 1: Yes, the cap hit is everything too, it's big.

1781
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand why the Broncos want to unload him.

1782
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 2: They're gonna take a big hit either way, but it

1783
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:24,840
Speaker 2: will lessen the strain if they can get rid of

1784
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: him sooner rather than later.

1785
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 3: All right, I want to switch gears.

1786
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 2: On the other side, I want to talk about a

1787
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 2: phenomenal number out of this season in the NBA and

1788
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 2: why we have this number.

1789
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:39,520
Speaker 3: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

1790
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 2: Steve Harbin and Rich Arberger here on Fox Sports Sunday.

1791
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 3: We're live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

1792
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:45,280
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1793
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:48,000
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1794
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,840
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1795
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,760
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1796
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,719
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1797
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1798
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:03,360
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1799
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 2: get off the air.

1800
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 3: All right, Rich, The NBA.

1801
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 2: All Star Game was embarrassing, and no one was more

1802
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 2: embarrassed than Adam Silver, who really had tried to make

1803
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 2: it a point to the players that we need a

1804
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 2: more competitive game. You know, I'm not saying play it

1805
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 2: like it's Game seven of the NBA Finals, but let's

1806
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 2: play a more reasonable brand of basketball. And the player's

1807
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: response was the most embarrassing display of non basketball we've

1808
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: ever seen. In the All Star Game, a record combined

1809
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 2: three hundred and ninety seven points and there were three

1810
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: fouls called in the game. Just think about that stat

1811
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: for a second. Three fouls called in the entire game. Well,

1812
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 2: it was a physical game, very very physical. But my

1813
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 2: reflection on this All Star Game is why should you

1814
01:37:59,080 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 2: be shocked?

1815
01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 3: Here's a stat for you.

1816
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:07,919
Speaker 2: The average scoring per team in the NBA this season

1817
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:16,719
Speaker 2: is the highest it's been since nineteen seventy, the highest

1818
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: scoring average per game per team in fifty four years. Now,

1819
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 2: there's a question of like, why is this and I've

1820
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 2: heard all these different observations about, well, you know, the

1821
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 2: shootings better all around, or there's more fouls call so

1822
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:38,439
Speaker 2: there's more possession.

1823
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of things.

1824
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 2: In my observation because I watched quite a bit of

1825
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 2: NBA Basketball's this The big change this year was the

1826
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 2: new rule that required players to appear in at least

1827
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 2: sixty five games in order to be eligible for any

1828
01:38:55,000 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 2: postseason honors, all NBA awards, or anything else. So that

1829
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 2: means that the good news is our star players are

1830
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 2: playing a lot more games this year. I mean, unfortunately

1831
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 2: for Joel Embiid, he's no longer eligible for any awards

1832
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 2: because he will not play sixty five games due to injury.

1833
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 3: And I questioned that a little bit myself. But here's

1834
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 3: the thing.

1835
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 2: The players are like, Okay, yeah, we'll play more games,

1836
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean we're not going to continue with

1837
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 2: our load management. Our load management is going to occur

1838
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,280
Speaker 2: during the games. And so when you think of the

1839
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:32,759
Speaker 2: biggest stars in the NFL, they're mostly offensive players, which

1840
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: means their general lack of defense has been taken to

1841
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: a next level.

1842
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 3: You know, remember it used.

1843
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 2: To be in the NBA, Rich that every team seemed

1844
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: to have an enforcer defensively, right, like that was sort

1845
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,519
Speaker 2: of commonplace, Like that guy's going to just you know,

1846
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,040
Speaker 2: knock a few heads around, you know, while the other

1847
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,719
Speaker 2: guys get all the hooplow on the glory by scoring

1848
01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 2: a lot of points.

1849
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 3: We're not even seeing that anymore. Now.

1850
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:57,439
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the NBA has to get back to

1851
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 2: where it was in the early nineties, when rarely we

1852
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,600
Speaker 2: saw a team score even one hundred points because the

1853
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 2: super physical nature of the game. But there's got to

1854
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 2: be a balance. And my theory on why scoring has

1855
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 2: skyrocketed this year is very simple. The defenses have become

1856
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 2: lax because a number of star players, being forced to

1857
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 2: play more games, are just let's say, reserving some.

1858
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,719
Speaker 3: Of their energy to get through the rest of the season.

1859
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see it. I mean, it's like it's

1860
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 1: like watching Turnstiles. And also there's another prevailing theory as

1861
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:37,719
Speaker 1: to why this is happening, and it actually it does

1862
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 1: make sense. Okay, So the revelation that's occurred over the

1863
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: past decade or really decade plus, with the three pointer

1864
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 1: coming into fashion and us seeing teams built around the

1865
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 1: three pointer, the dynasty that the Warriors has had. You know,

1866
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: I guess you could say it's really waning now. But

1867
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets with Darryl Morey when he had CP three,

1868
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 1: and he had and he had, oh goodness, the beard

1869
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: down there in Houston with him. It really was one

1870
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: of those things, James Harden, It really was one of

1871
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: those things where when it came in vogue to shoot

1872
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 1: the three point shot, the defense was less important because

1873
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 1: if you got beat, for example, the whole idea is

1874
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,839
Speaker 1: guard the perimeter to try to slow down three shooting

1875
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 1: against your opponent. Guard the perimeter, and if they beat

1876
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: you off the dribble, let them go. You may yeah,

1877
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean, if somebody's in the lane and they can

1878
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,719
Speaker 1: put a hand on the basketball, like, sure, get your block,

1879
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, make it a little more difficult for them

1880
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 1: to get to the hoop. Sure, that's fine, but let

1881
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:50,719
Speaker 1: them go because if they score two points, the faster

1882
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: you could just get that over with and get the

1883
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: ball back either off the rebound or inbounding it after

1884
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 1: the shot is scored, means the fast you can go

1885
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 1: down the court and attempt a three point shot where

1886
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: you go up by one, so you're winning that transaction.

1887
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 1: So it's hard to make a shot in the NBA,

1888
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: even when you're driving the lane. So there's misses off

1889
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: of layups, there's misses off of mid range jumpers worth

1890
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: two points, and even if they score the two points,

1891
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna shoot a three point shot down range when

1892
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:24,799
Speaker 1: you get the ball back. And so defense has become

1893
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 1: way more obsolete with the surge of three point shooting

1894
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:34,360
Speaker 1: in the NBA. And that is like legitimately an analytical

1895
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 1: perspective that's shared now as logic with some of these

1896
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:41,800
Speaker 1: star players or some of these teams across basketball in

1897
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 1: the NBA.

1898
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not actually stating this as

1899
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 2: a negative. I think most of us, as sports fans,

1900
01:42:53,240 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 2: whatever sport we enjoy most, more scoring is better. I

1901
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 2: think we all feel that way. It's not that we

1902
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 2: can't appreciate a good defense once in a while. But

1903
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 2: if I can get more goals, more runs, more baskets,

1904
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:18,799
Speaker 2: more touchdowns, give me it. I think that's just our nature.

1905
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 2: We want more. I mean up to a lot of people.

1906
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 2: The reason that soccer, which is known as football the

1907
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 2: round than a round the world, is not more popular

1908
01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 2: with a lot of people is there's just a lack

1909
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: of scoring. You know, nil nil one, nil two to

1910
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 2: one just doesn't do a hull up for us.

1911
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 3: We want scoring.

1912
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I mean a kid, kid,

1913
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 2: was the highest scoring era in NBA history. From the

1914
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 2: early sixties until like nineteen seventy was the highest scoring

1915
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: era in the history of the NBA. And you had

1916
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 2: guys regularly averaging thirty points a game. Whether it was

1917
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,560
Speaker 2: Wilt or Elgin Baale or Jerry West or Oscar Robertson.

1918
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 3: There were guys scoring a lot of points. And I

1919
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:04,640
Speaker 3: dug it.

1920
01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 2: I mean in the college game, he had Pete Merrividge

1921
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 2: averaging forty four points a game without a three point line.

1922
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 2: That's how basketball was back in those days. And honestly,

1923
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 2: I loved it, so I don't mind it. I'm not

1924
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,200
Speaker 2: stating this as well. This is a real problem for

1925
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 2: the NBA. It's just a fact. But to explain it, yeah,

1926
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of different reasons have been given.

1927
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure all valid, but I can't get out of

1928
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 2: my mind the fact that these stars are being required

1929
01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 2: to play more games, which they are, which is good.

1930
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 3: Want to see him on the court.

1931
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 2: But you know, if Hey, if I got to play

1932
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,800
Speaker 2: more games, I'm gonna have to save my energy. So

1933
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 2: we'll see that all that plays out all right. By

1934
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 2: the way, I have another stat to give you on

1935
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 2: the other side, but first let's find out what is

1936
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 2: trending right now. And of course Monsei very excited about

1937
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 2: her Clippers.

1938
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Speaker 8: Yes.

1939
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 2: By the way, last night on my TV show, I

1940
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,360
Speaker 2: had to make a prediction on the Clippers and Lakers

1941
01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 2: games coming up.

1942
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,960
Speaker 3: Clippers have a home game against the Kings. Of course,

1943
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 3: they took the Clips. Lakers are on the road against

1944
01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 3: the Suns.

1945
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's about to start, and.

1946
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Speaker 3: I picked the Suns. Yeah game.

1947
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Speaker 9: Yeah, Anthony Davis and Lebron James were questionable for the game,

1948
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:15,720
Speaker 9: but they are playing in it, so right, we'll we'll see.

1949
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 9: But I agree, I would comfortably take the Suns as well.

1950
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Speaker 3: Well. And then of course we got the Lakers and

1951
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:21,680
Speaker 3: Clippers playing.

1952
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,800
Speaker 8: Next, yes, which is always exciting.

1953
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,040
Speaker 3: And it is a Clippers home game. Well, what happened

1954
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:27,920
Speaker 3: to the Clippers this year against the Lakers? They used

1955
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:28,679
Speaker 3: to own the Lakers.

1956
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, but we lost like two in a row.

1957
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't happen, Yeah, it doesn't happen.

1958
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Speaker 9: But as I said, I've said it to other people.

1959
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 9: If that just means that things will.

1960
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 8: Be different when it comes to the playoffs, then I

1961
01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 8: don't care. Yeah, we can lose to the Lakers during

1962
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 8: the regular season. I'm cool with it.

1963
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 9: You know, you're talking about players having to actually play

1964
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,720
Speaker 9: and having to go to work. It's just because you

1965
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 9: never miss work, Steve Hartman. You never take a day off,

1966
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 9: So you don't understand it, and I don't either. But

1967
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, you really don't understand what.

1968
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: My attitude is. Every day I work is a day off.

1969
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,720
Speaker 2: Of course I had life's a day off.

1970
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, when are you going to manage your load? Everybody's

1971
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 1: talking about it, exc he.

1972
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 9: Doesn't count because he's working, you know, nine shifts in

1973
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 9: seven days.

1974
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I got more work on the way. I'm

1975
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 3: working on it.

1976
01:46:15,720 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 8: I know you are.

1977
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 3: I know you got.

1978
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 2: Too many idle hours, way too many.

1979
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Speaker 9: All right, fellas, We'll start in the NBA where the

1980
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,599
Speaker 9: Bucks defeated the seventy six ers in Philly one nineteen

1981
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 9: to ninety eight. Jannisnta Takoumpo just shy have a triple double,

1982
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,679
Speaker 9: thirty points, twelve rebounds, nine assists, Damian Lillard dropped twenty

1983
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 9: four points and nine assists, so another victory for Doc Rivers.

1984
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,320
Speaker 9: Another NBA News Hawk star Tray Young. He's not playing

1985
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 9: in today's game against the Magic due to an injury

1986
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 9: on his left pinky finger, and the team announced that

1987
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,919
Speaker 9: he's going to undergo surgery to repair a torn ligament.

1988
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 9: He's going to be reevaluated in four weeks. Atlanta does

1989
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 9: need Trey Young. They're currently in tenth place in the

1990
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,919
Speaker 9: Eastern Conference. And then we check in in college hoops.

1991
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 9: Were earlier today Umber fifteen, Creighton lost to Saint John's

1992
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,360
Speaker 9: eighty to sixty six, and right now it is number

1993
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 9: three per Due taking on Michigan with Perdue on top

1994
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 9: sixty eight to fifty seven, about ten minutes to go

1995
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,639
Speaker 9: in the second half, and we check in on the

1996
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 9: NHL where the Lightning officially beat the Devils four to one.

1997
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 8: And then in Major.

1998
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:20,919
Speaker 9: League Baseball, Yes, we know that the Cubs have resigned

1999
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 9: Cody Bellinger to a three year, eighty million dollar contract,

2000
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,200
Speaker 9: but everybody's waiting to see when they might see Shohei

2001
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 9: Otani during spring training. Well, a Dodgers beat rider Juon Toribio.

2002
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 9: I'm going to guess is how he says his last name.

2003
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 9: He says that even he's reporting that, even though Dave

2004
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 9: Roberts wouldn't.

2005
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 8: Confirm anything, based on.

2006
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 9: The schedule, it looks like sho hey Otani is going

2007
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 9: to play on Tuesday and Yoshinobo Yamamoto will start on

2008
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,440
Speaker 9: Wednesday for the Dodgers.

2009
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 8: So no confirmation, but also just fairly that's.

2010
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 9: What the schedule makes sense to this Dodgers beat rid

2011
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 9: so exciting.

2012
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:57,880
Speaker 2: Alright, well again yesterday because again I was reporting on

2013
01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 2: this same Tyler Glass.

2014
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,679
Speaker 3: Now who you know, the guy six ' eight.

2015
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he and when he's on the mound and healthy,

2016
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 2: he's got filthy stuff.

2017
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 3: He just can't stay healthy. He's never pitched more than

2018
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 3: one hundred.

2019
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 2: And twenty eight is in a year. And you gave

2020
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 2: this guy a bowtload of money. And then you got

2021
01:48:15,439 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 2: Yama Moto, who you made the highest paid pitcher in baseball.

2022
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:20,880
Speaker 2: He hasn't thrown one pitch yet in the major leagues. Yeah,

2023
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 2: that's You're won two right now. Bershaw's not ready. Bueler's

2024
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:26,200
Speaker 2: not ready.

2025
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bueler's not ready.

2026
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 9: They're saying he still needs another bullpen session before.

2027
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we talked about this with John Paul Morosi,

2028
01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 2: Like for a team that's, you know, over unders one

2029
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 2: hundred and three wins, you're going to be limited with

2030
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 2: your pitching and I don't care how many runs you.

2031
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:43,719
Speaker 3: Score, you got to stop.

2032
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 8: You you got to stop.

2033
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 2: And we saw that disaster of pitching for the Dodgers

2034
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 2: in the postseason against the d Backs.

2035
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 3: All right, Monzie, thank you very much.

2036
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 2: All right, Rich, I was I was thinking about this

2037
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 2: about the NBA, and I think both of us agree

2038
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to team sports or even individual sports,

2039
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:07,439
Speaker 2: it's it helps any sport to have a dominant team

2040
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 2: or individual in that sport because it's it gives the

2041
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,839
Speaker 2: sport an identity, whether you root four against that person,

2042
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 2: it gives a face or in terms of a team sport,

2043
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 2: a team that sort of identifies the league. In the moment,

2044
01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 2: the Chiefs now are that team in the National Football League.

2045
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 2: But in the NBA we're going through a transition, and

2046
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 2: as we sit here right now, the two biggest star

2047
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:39,759
Speaker 2: players in this league remain Lebron James and Steph Curry.

2048
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 2: They are still the two biggest stars in this league,

2049
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 2: and that's based on their track record championships. They both

2050
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: have checked every single box along the way. Here's the

2051
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 2: problem for the NBA. If the season ends today, those

2052
01:49:55,120 --> 01:49:57,160
Speaker 2: two guys will be facing in the nine to ten

2053
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 2: playing matchup, which means immediately one of those two guys

2054
01:50:01,360 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 2: will be eliminated from the playoffs. Would the other team

2055
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 2: have to win another game just to get into the playoffs?

2056
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 2: So who is that next face of the NBA and

2057
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 2: does that player have to check one big box?

2058
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 3: And let me explain to you Rich.

2059
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,080
Speaker 2: So we've seen over the last couple of years Giannis

2060
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 2: a couple MVPs winning at championship. Same thing with Jokic

2061
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,200
Speaker 2: in Denver, a couple MVPs and winning at championship.

2062
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:27,920
Speaker 3: But they haven't attained.

2063
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:34,080
Speaker 2: The stature of Lebron or a Steph Curry. And we

2064
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:37,559
Speaker 2: got players like Ugudancic obviously as a lot of appeal.

2065
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 2: And now we have the youngster Wembin Yama who's on

2066
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:45,760
Speaker 2: a terrible San Antonio Spurs team. But it looks like

2067
01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 2: all the hype was well earned. His potential seems limitless

2068
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 2: in how he could dominate this league. But in this country,

2069
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the world stage, but here in

2070
01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 2: America for US to truly embrace somebody as the face

2071
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 2: of that sport.

2072
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 3: Do they need to be American? Or can we do

2073
01:51:09,640 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 3: that with foreign players? And is another prime example of

2074
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 3: this in Major League Baseball.

2075
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they need to be I

2076
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: I do know that. Look, charisma and availability is important

2077
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: to people, you know, and I think that I think

2078
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:35,679
Speaker 1: that we're as we're progressing and all these sports leagues

2079
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:42,679
Speaker 1: their aim is to be like one international Like the NFL.

2080
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,759
Speaker 1: It's not like they're slowing down with the International Series.

2081
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 1: They're adding a game in Rio Dejaneira, Brazil to kick

2082
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 1: off the regular season with the Eagles and a opponent

2083
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 1: to be designated or is it the Steelers. It's one

2084
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 1: of the two. You know, you look at you look

2085
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: at the fact that they justice last year. The NFL's

2086
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: back in Germany, they've played in Mexico City recently, that

2087
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball's opening their season in Seoul, South Korea.

2088
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: At all of these leagues, it's not just the NBA.

2089
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: They're trying to get more international fans and they're they're

2090
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: they're they're actually achieving the goal there. They are spreading

2091
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: the borders of the game. However, when you talk about

2092
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: like what the American sports fan has an easier time

2093
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: attaching themselves to, well, it's it's it's two American athletes

2094
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: because they can see the path it took them to

2095
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:41,600
Speaker 1: get to the league oftentimes, but it's also energy and charisma.

2096
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'll give you another example of a

2097
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: guy who took over a sport and inarguably became an

2098
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 1: American favorite not and also an international favorite in the UFC,

2099
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,960
Speaker 1: and that's Connor McGregor. Connor McGregor is from Ireland. You know,

2100
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 1: I don't know the hometown Connor McGregor up in. I

2101
01:53:00,520 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 1: have no idea, but but he is bombastic and energetic

2102
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: and available, and you know he's all over the media

2103
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:16,479
Speaker 1: constantly like he's a superstar. So he's undeniable. I mean,

2104
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 1: is Luka Doncic that way? I know he's not. I

2105
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 1: mean he's not. Look he's he's a star player. There's

2106
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: no question he's a great player in the NBA. But

2107
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:31,160
Speaker 1: is he a superstar like Connor McGregor. No is Jokic

2108
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:35,599
Speaker 1: that way? No? Jokic looks uninterested to be anywhere he is,

2109
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: including the basketball court. Sometimes, you know, so I think

2110
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: that's the biggest problem for the NBA is you have

2111
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 1: people who are reluctant stars playing in your league. I

2112
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:50,799
Speaker 1: don't I don't think they want the smoke. And that's

2113
01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: that's I mean. Shohey Otani basically chose his first team

2114
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball to be hidden. He wanted to

2115
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: be hidden up in obscurity. He didn't he didn't want

2116
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 1: the press. Mike Trout is another example of a domestics

2117
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: star baseball player who doesn't want the limelight. You know,

2118
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: so these leagues depend on their stars, and for as

2119
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:18,799
Speaker 1: much as you can say about Lebron James, maybe maybe

2120
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 1: being too visible at times, at least he's visible. Yeah,

2121
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:23,679
Speaker 1: goodness gracious.

2122
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 2: Same thing with Steph Curry. I think you bring up

2123
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 2: a great point. I agree with you. It's it's less

2124
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 2: about nationality and more about personality. The reason that Darren

2125
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 2: Jeter became the face of Major League baseball. Obviously a

2126
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,360
Speaker 2: great part of it was being the shortstop of the

2127
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 2: Yankees and being in the World Series many tides, but

2128
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 2: it was he intriguing in his personal life. He was

2129
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 2: a single guy throughout his baseball career. He dated seemingly

2130
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 2: every beautiful woman on the planet and it added to

2131
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 2: the lore.

2132
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 3: Of Derek Jeter.

2133
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so when we try to we try to

2134
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 2: market show hey, Tom as unique as he is as

2135
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 2: a player the Unicorn. You know, he doesn't speak English still,

2136
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 2: at least publicly he doesn't. And there doesn't seem to

2137
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 2: be any real controversy or I mean, think about it.

2138
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 2: When did Lebron James Starpower go through the stratosphere.

2139
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:24,000
Speaker 3: It's when he made the decision to leave Cleveland and

2140
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 3: go to Miami.

2141
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 2: Oh, how dare he abandon his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers to

2142
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,000
Speaker 2: go with that super team in Miami. That's when his

2143
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 2: notoriety he gave him him an edge. I mean, by nature,

2144
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:38,480
Speaker 2: Lebron's a pretty boring guy. He's a family guy. You know,

2145
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 2: he's He's had no controversy in his personal life at all,

2146
01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 2: but that one event suddenly gave him a little bit

2147
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 2: of an.

2148
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 1: Edge, like people, oh, I hate that guy.

2149
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 3: Man, he abandoned his home team. So I agree with you.

2150
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,680
Speaker 2: I think that this is something that just has to

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Speaker 2: think of Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 3: You know, suddenly they only you.

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Speaker 2: Know, almost created off field personas that defied what you

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Speaker 2: honestly thought of them. All right, coming up on the

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Speaker 2: you're your veteran status now, I mean, I remember when

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Speaker 2: you're rookie, but you're far from that anymore. You know,

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Speaker 2: we say things on this show, and we you know,

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Speaker 2: we have aions about things good and bad, and something

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Speaker 2: in the back of your mind is like, who's listening?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have a certain core audience of people

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Speaker 2: that listen to what you have to say. They yeah,

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Speaker 2: either you really want to get a sports feed, or

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Speaker 2: they're just entertained by the way you are, whatever the

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Speaker 2: reason for listening. But when we talk about who's listening,

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Speaker 2: I mean about people in the industry who's listening. And

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Speaker 2: many times over the course of my career, I've gotten

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Speaker 2: feedback from people that you sort of talk about somebody,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's in a negative light, and all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden it gets back to them and you may not

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Speaker 2: be aware of it at the time, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I told this story about a major league current major

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Speaker 2: league manager who I've always had a great relationship with,

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Speaker 2: but I said some things on radio and in television

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Speaker 2: that you weren't the most complimentary. I had not seen

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Speaker 2: this manager in a while, and when I saw him,

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Speaker 2: instead of being greeted and then the way I'd always

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Speaker 2: been greeted, I got the look. No words are spoken,

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Speaker 2: I just got the look and you know, the look

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Speaker 2: like I'm not happy with you right now.

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Speaker 3: And it took me back.

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Speaker 2: But again I'm like, okay, wait, I get it. So

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Speaker 2: we had an incident on Friday, and I love when

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Speaker 2: this happens. So AJ Brown, the All Pro wide receiver

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Speaker 2: of the Philadelphia Eagles called into WIP.

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Speaker 3: In Philadelphia, the big sports.

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Speaker 2: Station in Philly, and apparently the guys were talking about

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Speaker 2: that AJ Brown is unhappy obviously the Eagles season completely

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Speaker 2: collapsed on him, that he's got a strain relationship with

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts and he wants out of Philadelphia. So apparently

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Speaker 2: I AJ Brown was either directly listening to this or

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Speaker 2: got win of it, and he just called in to

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Speaker 2: the station to dispel all those rumors. He comes on

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Speaker 2: and goes, I have no problem. I want to be here.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. I love where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: It's as simple as that next question. And when they

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Speaker 2: talked about Jalen Hurts and him having a strained relationship,

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Speaker 2: he goes, that's total bs. I love that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this but here, this is why if

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Speaker 2: you're an athlete, if you're a coach, you sort of

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Speaker 2: have to play the game. If you make yourself available

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Speaker 2: to the media, then it usually doesn't get to this point.

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Speaker 2: But when you sort of cut yourself off, which AJ Brown,

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Speaker 2: by the way, did and was not speaking to the

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Speaker 2: media at all as the wheels fell off in the

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Speaker 2: Eagles season, then you sort of give them fair game

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Speaker 2: to go with it anyway they want to go with it.

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Speaker 2: But in this case, apparently they went too far and

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Speaker 2: then he has to jump in and defend himself.

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Speaker 3: But I well, I love that.

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Speaker 2: But to me, it's again, it's a situation where it

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Speaker 2: benefits you, especially in the social media world that we

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Speaker 2: live in, to yeah be heard, because that way, at

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Speaker 2: least you can say, all right, well here's the situation.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't have to say everything, but a

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Speaker 2: little can go a long way to avoid situations like

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Speaker 2: aj Brown found himself in in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think this actually reminds me a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the interaction Kevin Durant had with a fan

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Speaker 1: because I listened a little bit of the WIP interview

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Speaker 1: that was conducted after a Brown called in to defend himself.

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Speaker 1: And so I'll, you know, for anybody who's catching up,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant approached a Dallas fan who called him an

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Speaker 1: unsavory term let's the beebomb on his way into the arena.

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Speaker 1: And I mean this was very clear. Basically, two people

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Speaker 1: standing by the roped off area as Durant was making

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Speaker 1: his way to the court in Dallas, and this this

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Speaker 1: Mavericks fan shouted out that word that obscenity at him,

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Speaker 1: so he stopped. He turned around, he walked back over

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Speaker 1: to her. He explained to her, Hey, look, you're talking

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Speaker 1: to a human being, Like, I'm not some trained animal

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Speaker 1: out here for your amusement. Like I go home and

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Speaker 1: you know I do the same things you do. I'm

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Speaker 1: a person. And she responded by trying to like shake

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Speaker 1: his hand and oh, Kevin, you know, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: just I'm just being a goofball. It's cool, right, We're cool,

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Speaker 1: and it's not cool. Like sometimes sometimes if you have

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Speaker 1: a strong opinion about somebody, they're going to approach you

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Speaker 1: on it. And it's happened to me in the past.

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Speaker 1: It's happened to me broadcasting. It's and when it happens,

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Speaker 1: you have to reap what you sew. So whatever you

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Speaker 1: say you could be held accountable for. In that case

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Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant and the Mavericks fan, it was a

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Speaker 1: quick exchange and they moved on. In the case of

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Speaker 1: this WIP sports talk radio show host, you now have

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Speaker 1: the guy who you are openly criticizing for things that

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Speaker 1: you really may not know the truth about, and now

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Speaker 1: you have this opportunity to get a first person account

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Speaker 1: to exactly what went on in that Eagles locker room,

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Speaker 1: in that sideline, and for that, I think it was

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Speaker 1: great that they were able to keep him on the

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Speaker 1: phone for as long as they did and get some

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Speaker 1: answers because this started from an emotional place. You know.

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown called in because he felt like he was

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Speaker 1: being called out unfairly, and then he found a way

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Speaker 1: to twist this into an actual radio interview where you

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Speaker 1: have a sports star defending himself and opening up about

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Speaker 1: things that maybe otherwise you wouldn't have heard about. I

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Speaker 1: think all these interactions are actually good. I hope that

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Speaker 1: in the case of Kevin Durant and that Maverickson, I

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Speaker 1: hope the Maverick fans learn learn a hard lesson, you

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Speaker 1: know that, like, you know, maybe maybe I ought ought

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Speaker 1: to not scream obscenities at people when they're when they're

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Speaker 1: on their way to work. And in the case of

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Speaker 1: this radio show host, I mean, I guess maybe his

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Speaker 1: ends were justified because he got an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 1: to AJ Brown where I don't know if he necessarily

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Speaker 1: would have if he didn't criticize him, but I do

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Speaker 1: think that you have to understand you are talking about

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Speaker 1: people and your opinion may not be the truth, and

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Speaker 1: so you just have to be ready for retribution when

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Speaker 1: it comes your way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the end of this interview, AJ Brown, I

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Speaker 2: want to get to Bowen this because he's the big

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Speaker 2: Eels fan said. I just want to let Philly know

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Speaker 2: I love him and everybody who's making those zoomors. Hey, man,

2290
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Speaker 2: you need to find another job. I can tell you this.

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Speaker 2: If you get a player to respond to something you've

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02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 2: said with an on air interview, then Dan gets, you know,

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Speaker 2: buzz across the country. If you're a PD you're very

2294
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Speaker 2: happy at that host is able to pull something like that.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this soul AJ Brown having to,

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Speaker 2: you know, force himself onto a radio show to dispel

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Speaker 2: any rumors bow that he's unhappy in Philadelphia and that

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Speaker 2: everything is say okay between he and Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 12: I believe AJ Brown. I don't think he's lying about that.

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Speaker 12: I'm more the stuff they came out this week about

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Speaker 12: Big Don being on the sideline to control Nick Sirianni's emotions. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: that's the red flag to me, And I think if

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Speaker 12: that's true, I would immediately fire Nick Sirianni and go

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Speaker 12: hire Bill Belncheck.

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Speaker 2: Well, see, the thing about the Sirianni situation was you

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02:04:42,400 --> 02:04:47,120
Speaker 2: have to ask yourself why now. Granted, even Aj Brown

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Speaker 2: conceded the fact that when the Eagles are sitting at

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Speaker 2: ten and one, they were not playing great football. The

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Speaker 2: record was great, but they were not playing great. But

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Speaker 2: when the wheels fall off that dramatic, there's got to

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Speaker 2: be more than a team. I mean, think about the

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Speaker 2: way they got blown out of that playoff game by

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Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Rich, I mean, they got blown

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Speaker 2: out by the Buccaneers. I mean, the idea that Nick

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Speaker 2: Siriani is going to turn this whole thing around, maybe

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Speaker 2: he will, or maybe whatever happened at the end of

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Speaker 2: that season is not preparable. I mean, you had to

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Speaker 2: make that decision. I mean, there were a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that thought Siriani was fighting for his coaching life

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Speaker 2: before that playoff game, and then the manner in which

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Speaker 2: they got blown out of that game was like, Okay,

2322
02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:45,920
Speaker 2: but he's still there, So I guess they're banking that

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Speaker 2: it's fixable.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the deal. Anytime you make major changes with

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Speaker 1: an organization. You have to understand that on the other

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Speaker 1: side of those changes, it's not always going to be

2327
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 1: thiss you're looking for, because there's no such thing as like, Okay,

2328
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:06,280
Speaker 1: problem solved, we got rid of the coach moving on

2329
02:06:06,320 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: to a better coach. You have no idea even if

2330
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Speaker 1: they hired Bill Belichick, you have no idea if it's

2331
02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:15,240
Speaker 1: going to work out great. You know, you just don't know.

2332
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Speaker 1: There have been so many times where a head coach

2333
02:06:19,280 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 1: who worked somewhere else for a while signs a head

2334
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,160
Speaker 1: coaching contract with a different team and it goes nowhere.

2335
02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:28,840
Speaker 1: I mean, look at Ron Rivera. He had a good

2336
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 1: run with the Carolina Panthers, Cam Newton MVP Super Bowl appearance,

2337
02:06:36,280 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was a disaster in Washington. So it

2338
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:44,839
Speaker 1: can happen where you have a head coach have success

2339
02:06:44,880 --> 02:06:48,440
Speaker 1: in multiple places. It can happen, has happened, but it

2340
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's a guarantee. And for Nick Sirianni,

2341
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Speaker 1: I think what he's built, especially in terms of trust

2342
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Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurtz and many of the players around this offense,

2343
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Speaker 1: and then clearly the way he cultivated his staff, at

2344
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Speaker 1: least at first you know, if you look at the

2345
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Speaker 1: success that Shane Steiken had in Indianapolis this past year

2346
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 1: as a head coach offensively with Anthony Richardson and then

2347
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. I mean, Shane Steiken comes off of Nick

2348
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Speaker 1: Sirianni's coaching tree, you know, and people say, well, it's

2349
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:26,520
Speaker 1: a huge brain drain for Nick Sirianni. Yeah, that may

2350
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 1: be true. But also there's another side of that coin.

2351
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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is the reason or has some part of

2352
02:07:31,960 --> 02:07:34,840
Speaker 1: the reason why Shane Steikeen is having so much success

2353
02:07:35,200 --> 02:07:39,200
Speaker 1: because he got to witness his success in Philadelphia put

2354
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Speaker 1: some of that imprint in Indianapolis. And I'm very curious

2355
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:46,480
Speaker 1: to see what happens this season. I'm very curious to

2356
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Speaker 1: see if Sirianni can get it right, maybe with some

2357
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: new blood on the coaching staff. Obviously there's gonna be

2358
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 1: some trust issues with this roster, with the way things

2359
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Speaker 1: finished last year, but I'm I'm kind of a fan

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Speaker 1: of what the Philadelphia Eagles did. Keep the culture in place,

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Speaker 1: give it another year, let's see if we can't get

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02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 1: back on track to the Super Bowl team we were

2363
02:08:11,040 --> 02:08:11,560
Speaker 1: a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a repeat obviously is going to be doomsday for

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Speaker 2: that coaching staff. By the way, quick note here the

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns are leading the Lakers forty five to twenty

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02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 2: eight after the first quarter. Forty five points for the

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Speaker 2: Suns in the first quarter. Getting back to what I

2369
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 2: talked about earlier about you know, some of the stars

2370
02:08:30,160 --> 02:08:34,839
Speaker 2: sort of a little lax on the defensive end. Lebron

2371
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 2: James has played nine minutes in this game. His plus

2372
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:44,200
Speaker 2: minus is a minus eighteen in his nine minutes of game.

2373
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, mailed this one in. As far as the

2374
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 2: Lakers against the Phoenix Suns on the road, all right,

2375
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 2: coming up on the other side, story that was out there,

2376
02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 2: and I'm very interested in getting richest perspective, we'll explain

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Speaker 2: this is Fine Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Steve Harbin and Rich Harberger, Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Sunday Live from the tire rack dot Com Studios. Rich,

2380
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:14,959
Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw this story this week. Charlie Woods,

2381
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:21,680
Speaker 2: the son of Tiger Woods, he's fifteen years old, decided

2382
02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 2: to enter a preliminary qualifier to actually get into a

2383
02:09:28,280 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 2: PGA tournament. And so for many observers they're like, wow,

2384
02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that's sort of like the time that Tiger

2385
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:37,120
Speaker 2: took off you know, by the time he was fifteen,

2386
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 2: if you were falling golf at the time, you'd already

2387
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 2: heard of the name Tiger Woods. And you know, since

2388
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:45,760
Speaker 2: Tiger's demise due to the injuries and everything else, people

2389
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:48,200
Speaker 2: are anxious, can we ever see another Tiger Woods. Oh,

2390
02:09:48,280 --> 02:09:50,360
Speaker 2: he's got his son, Charlie. We saw him play with

2391
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 2: his daddy. Can hit the ball a long way. So

2392
02:09:53,560 --> 02:09:56,320
Speaker 2: he goes out for a round of golf and I

2393
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 2: think there was something like one hundred and twelve players

2394
02:09:59,320 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 2: and I something like the top fifteen or nineteen then

2395
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 2: move on to the next round of you know, qualifying,

2396
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:10,960
Speaker 2: and then eventually like four golfers can actually qualify to

2397
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 2: play in an actual PGA tournament. So because it was

2398
02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 2: Charlie Woods, Tiger's son, a lot of people are like,

2399
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 2: all right, here we go. He then goes out and

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02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 2: he shoots a sixteen over par eighty six. There were

2401
02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve golfers that day. He finished one

2402
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 2: hundred and tenth. He also had a twelve on a

2403
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:33,640
Speaker 2: par four hole, and a lot of people are like,

2404
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 2: what happened? And then you're like, excuse me, do you

2405
02:10:38,680 --> 02:10:43,080
Speaker 2: understand Charlie Wood's stature as a golfer. So in the

2406
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:47,080
Speaker 2: state of Florida, where he has been raised and grown up,

2407
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 2: they have rankings for all sports and in his age group,

2408
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:57,520
Speaker 2: Charlie Woods is the eightieth rank junior golfer in the

2409
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 2: state of Florida National he's ranked eleven hundred.

2410
02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 1: Now.

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02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 2: To put that in perspective, by the time his father

2412
02:11:06,640 --> 02:11:12,720
Speaker 2: was his age, he was already winning USGA Junior Amateur championships.

2413
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 2: He won three of those in a row. Then he

2414
02:11:14,720 --> 02:11:19,320
Speaker 2: won three us Amateurs in a row. So Charlie Woods

2415
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:23,760
Speaker 2: is not, nor will he ever be, nor will anyone

2416
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:28,200
Speaker 2: ever be Tiger Woods. He's a once in a lifetime player.

2417
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:32,280
Speaker 2: And I just the thing I did like about this,

2418
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:35,040
Speaker 2: and I certainly wish no ill will to this kid.

2419
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 2: If anything, I think it's ballsy for him to actually

2420
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 2: go out there and tee it up. And by the way,

2421
02:11:40,160 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 2: his father's been very I think handling it right with

2422
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:46,200
Speaker 2: the attitude. Look, if this is something he wants to do,

2423
02:11:46,440 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 2: I will support him as a parent. What else can

2424
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 2: you say? You know, if he wants to play golf,

2425
02:11:50,600 --> 02:11:54,440
Speaker 2: that's great. After he posted this eighty six, I guess

2426
02:11:54,440 --> 02:11:56,720
Speaker 2: he joked a little bit saying, well, that was a

2427
02:11:56,720 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 2: hell of a round. But I just wonder about a

2428
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:06,160
Speaker 2: young man like that. He's fifteen years old, he's a kid,

2429
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 2: and having that kind of spotlight. It's very similar to

2430
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:15,760
Speaker 2: the Bronni James situation, right. Obviously Bronni had an extenuating

2431
02:12:15,880 --> 02:12:21,080
Speaker 2: circumstance with that cardiac arrest episode, very scary, obviously, But

2432
02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 2: obviously this year at USC he doesn't look anything remotely

2433
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:31,000
Speaker 2: like his father, nor will he ever be his father.

2434
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:34,880
Speaker 2: I just wonder your thoughts about you know, we're so

2435
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 2: anxious sometimes of getting the next and then you know,

2436
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:41,760
Speaker 2: these superstar athletes have kids that try to follow in

2437
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:46,200
Speaker 2: their footsteps, but it's readily apparent that whatever it is

2438
02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 2: that made their father special, you may have his genes,

2439
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:52,960
Speaker 2: but you're not him.

2440
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, My thoughts on it are obviously, just like

2441
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 1: you said, that puts an undue amount of pressure on

2442
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:07,720
Speaker 1: Charlie Woods, who could end up turning out to He

2443
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 1: may be turning out to become a great golfer in

2444
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 1: his own right. Just as he said there's only one

2445
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:18,560
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, there probably will only ever be one Tiger Woods,

2446
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:23,080
Speaker 1: given how different golf is now. On the other side,

2447
02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:26,680
Speaker 1: of his career. I mean, he was breaking through color barriers,

2448
02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:29,680
Speaker 1: and he was I mean in a lot of ways

2449
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:34,520
Speaker 1: the Jackie Robinson of his game. He and Lee Elder,

2450
02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:40,160
Speaker 1: some of the other African American golfers who really had

2451
02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 1: a knock down doors and change rules. I mean there

2452
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:47,160
Speaker 1: were still country clubs where he was playing that had

2453
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 1: segregation rules early in his playing career. And I mean, look,

2454
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:55,040
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods isn't an old man, So that just gives

2455
02:13:55,040 --> 02:13:58,360
Speaker 1: you an idea of how far the world has come,

2456
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:03,040
Speaker 1: even in just one or two generations. Here to see

2457
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:04,840
Speaker 1: what the world looks like on the other side of

2458
02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: Tiger woods very long career. He's still playing. I don't

2459
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 1: want to say like he's retired. He's not yet. But

2460
02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:13,160
Speaker 1: Charlie Woods like he's gonna He's gonna play golf in

2461
02:14:13,200 --> 02:14:15,720
Speaker 1: a very different world. He's going to and a lot

2462
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:18,360
Speaker 1: of that's due to all the work his dad did

2463
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:21,920
Speaker 1: and and he may not be faced with as many challenges.

2464
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:26,400
Speaker 1: But also he's not He's he's not his dad, and

2465
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:30,840
Speaker 1: very few athletes can live up to, you know, their

2466
02:14:30,960 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 1: father's magnificent careers, especially when we're talking about an all

2467
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:36,480
Speaker 1: time great.

2468
02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:41,440
Speaker 2: But he will compared to his dad, because the way

2469
02:14:41,680 --> 02:14:44,160
Speaker 2: whether his game is even in the I mean, right now,

2470
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:50,480
Speaker 2: Charlie woods Is.

2471
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:50,880
Speaker 3: Is a middle of the road junior player.

2472
02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:54,480
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you know, I mean, but but but but

2473
02:14:54,680 --> 02:14:55,200
Speaker 2: how many.

2474
02:14:55,160 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 1: Middle of the road junior players end up becoming professional

2475
02:14:57,880 --> 02:15:00,600
Speaker 1: golfers and having success on tour. I don't the numbers,

2476
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:01,040
Speaker 1: but I do.

2477
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:04,080
Speaker 2: Know that anything absolutely I look at There's a There

2478
02:15:04,160 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 2: was a golfer back prominent in the eighties and nineties

2479
02:15:07,280 --> 02:15:10,720
Speaker 2: named Larry Nelson. Very nondescript guy, but he won three

2480
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,480
Speaker 2: major golf championships. He's in the Golf Hall of Fame.

2481
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:15,680
Speaker 2: He had never picked up a golf club till he

2482
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:16,720
Speaker 2: is twenty two years old.

2483
02:15:17,640 --> 02:15:18,440
Speaker 1: Ever, there you go.

2484
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:22,400
Speaker 2: At age twenty two, he decided, let me try this game,

2485
02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:25,720
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, it fit and the wins three

2486
02:15:25,720 --> 02:15:27,800
Speaker 2: majors and makes it into the Hall of Fame.

2487
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:32,040
Speaker 3: I wish this Charlie would all the all the luck

2488
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 3: in the world.

2489
02:15:32,480 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 2: But the problem he faces is every step he takes,

2490
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:41,560
Speaker 2: good or bad. It's Tiger's son. Same thing with Arry

2491
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:45,120
Speaker 2: James and I just I don't know. I mean, it's

2492
02:15:45,800 --> 02:15:49,120
Speaker 2: as a father, I'm sure for both. Lebron and for

2493
02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:53,879
Speaker 2: Tiger it's a difficult situation to be put in because

2494
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:56,840
Speaker 2: whether they should be, they shouldn't be compared. You could say,

2495
02:15:56,880 --> 02:15:59,880
Speaker 2: as a father, look, don't compare him to me at all.

2496
02:16:00,080 --> 02:16:03,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he's his own man, and whatever destiny has

2497
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:06,040
Speaker 2: for him, that's what's going to play out. Stop comparing

2498
02:16:06,080 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 2: it to me.

2499
02:16:06,440 --> 02:16:06,960
Speaker 1: He's not me.

2500
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 3: But people are say, ye mean he is you. I

2501
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:11,960
Speaker 3: mean he's your Let me remind he's not.

2502
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:14,720
Speaker 1: No, but he's not. He is his son, but he's

2503
02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:18,120
Speaker 1: not Tiger Woods. Any and nobody is Tiger Woods. Look.

2504
02:16:18,400 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 1: I implore anybody who gets over eager for a star's

2505
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:28,440
Speaker 1: kid to have the same level of success as the

2506
02:16:28,480 --> 02:16:32,480
Speaker 1: star once did to look at some of the numbers

2507
02:16:32,720 --> 02:16:35,360
Speaker 1: of the greats that we celebrate today, even some of

2508
02:16:35,400 --> 02:16:38,920
Speaker 1: the past greats like a Kobe Bryant, and look how

2509
02:16:39,160 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 1: how look at their early career struggles. Not not all

2510
02:16:42,760 --> 02:16:45,199
Speaker 1: of them. Some of them were great right out the gates,

2511
02:16:45,240 --> 02:16:47,160
Speaker 1: like Lebron James. He was a chosen one.

2512
02:16:47,520 --> 02:16:50,200
Speaker 2: Lebron James and Tiger Woods never had a downtime. They

2513
02:16:50,200 --> 02:16:53,359
Speaker 2: were proteges that lived up to the hype exceed.

2514
02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:56,199
Speaker 1: They lived up to the hype but but Kobe Bryant,

2515
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:59,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Kobe Bryant, his his rookie year, he wasn't

2516
02:16:59,800 --> 02:17:02,279
Speaker 1: a very good basketball play. I think he only started

2517
02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:04,640
Speaker 1: like a couple of games because he was an off

2518
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:07,520
Speaker 1: the bench player. You know, he was like an eight

2519
02:17:07,560 --> 02:17:11,160
Speaker 1: or nine point per game guy. The next year his

2520
02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:14,080
Speaker 1: his sophomore yeah, I looked this up recently. His sophomore year,

2521
02:17:14,280 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 1: he was he was he was getting a six Man

2522
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 1: of the Year, nots because he was he was effective

2523
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:22,280
Speaker 1: off the bench, but he wasn't a starter yet.

2524
02:17:22,360 --> 02:17:24,560
Speaker 2: By the way, he was also also those two years

2525
02:17:24,640 --> 02:17:28,200
Speaker 2: based on name alone, right, and then voted the All

2526
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:30,280
Speaker 2: Star team, even though like you said, the first couple

2527
02:17:30,320 --> 02:17:32,039
Speaker 2: of years he was coming off the bench.

2528
02:17:32,600 --> 02:17:35,600
Speaker 1: And then and then after that, actually his rookie year,

2529
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:38,520
Speaker 1: he was in his second year, yes, yeah, then the

2530
02:17:38,560 --> 02:17:41,959
Speaker 1: third year he wasn't an All Star by the way, Yeah,

2531
02:17:42,040 --> 02:17:45,080
Speaker 1: he he he went out onto the court, and I

2532
02:17:45,080 --> 02:17:47,520
Speaker 1: mean that's when he started to put it together. That's

2533
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:49,039
Speaker 1: when you started to see code.

2534
02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 2: No One was comparing Kobe Bryant to his father, Jellybean Bryant.

2535
02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:55,000
Speaker 1: No, I understand that.

2536
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 2: Well, being the son of a superstar and like the

2537
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:01,840
Speaker 2: biggest of LeBlanc, James and and Tiger Woods. Yeah, I

2538
02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:04,520
Speaker 2: mean Kobe Bryant. Yeah, he wasn't an ince's success. But

2539
02:18:04,560 --> 02:18:06,760
Speaker 2: no one's saying, you know, wow, he's never going to

2540
02:18:06,800 --> 02:18:08,520
Speaker 2: be another jelly Bean Bryant.

2541
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:12,560
Speaker 1: I guess my point is, Charlie Woods is fifteen, It

2542
02:18:12,720 --> 02:18:16,760
Speaker 1: is very easy for us to say, with you know,

2543
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:22,400
Speaker 1: some level of security and and some level of certainty

2544
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be his dad. Yeah, But

2545
02:18:24,480 --> 02:18:27,400
Speaker 1: also here's the crazy thing about life. We don't know

2546
02:18:27,440 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 1: what he's going to become. No, it took and my

2547
02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:33,360
Speaker 1: point being, it took Kobe years as a professional to

2548
02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:36,240
Speaker 1: figure out who he was going to become. So look,

2549
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:39,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about a junior amateur golfer. We're talking about

2550
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:41,480
Speaker 1: a guy who's got a lot to live up to.

2551
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:44,520
Speaker 1: And I don't know how much pressure he's feeling living

2552
02:18:44,600 --> 02:18:46,600
Speaker 1: in his dad's shadow right now, but he's going to

2553
02:18:46,720 --> 02:18:49,640
Speaker 1: his dad obviously casts a very wide shadow. Well, but

2554
02:18:49,720 --> 02:18:50,960
Speaker 1: he for the entirety of that.

2555
02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:53,840
Speaker 2: But he made that decision, Charlie Woods, I'm sure it

2556
02:18:53,879 --> 02:18:57,560
Speaker 2: wasn't his dad's decision. His decision was to enter paid

2557
02:18:57,560 --> 02:19:00,400
Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifty dollars fee, because as soon

2558
02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:02,120
Speaker 2: as his name was announced that he was going to

2559
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:05,039
Speaker 2: be in this preliminary qualifier to try to get on

2560
02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:07,640
Speaker 2: the page, it became a story. Wow, Charlie of course

2561
02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:10,560
Speaker 2: is ready, Well it's can a fifteen year old get?

2562
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:14,800
Speaker 3: And it was like, okay, that didn't go well it didn't.

2563
02:19:15,160 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 1: But I will say this, like okay, and I don't

2564
02:19:18,520 --> 02:19:24,400
Speaker 1: know the level of competition that paid their way into

2565
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,640
Speaker 1: this tournament, but he didn't finish dead last. And I'm

2566
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:29,600
Speaker 1: not saying it was a competitive.

2567
02:19:29,080 --> 02:19:33,680
Speaker 2: Round, but no, these are a lot of guys, you know, hoping,

2568
02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:36,640
Speaker 2: like dreaming, like do I have a miracle chance to

2569
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:39,600
Speaker 2: make it in into a PGA tournament? And he was

2570
02:19:39,600 --> 02:19:41,200
Speaker 2: one of those. But yeah, one hundred and ten out

2571
02:19:41,240 --> 02:19:43,520
Speaker 2: of one twelve was a rough day. As he said,

2572
02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:45,080
Speaker 2: I think he had a pretty good sense of humor

2573
02:19:45,080 --> 02:19:47,240
Speaker 2: about it. Like I said, I only wish him the best.

2574
02:19:47,240 --> 02:19:51,039
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's trending right now once again.

2575
02:19:51,560 --> 02:19:56,720
Speaker 2: Moncei and I during our show, Yes Yes, talked a

2576
02:19:56,760 --> 02:19:58,279
Speaker 2: little bit about this as well.

2577
02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:00,600
Speaker 9: Yes, and then I said, rich, I was it would

2578
02:20:00,640 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 9: have been maybe easier if like Charlie Woods started playing golf,

2579
02:20:04,680 --> 02:20:06,800
Speaker 9: but not with the last name Woods.

2580
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:12,160
Speaker 2: So she said rich and he said Dary change his name.

2581
02:20:12,440 --> 02:20:15,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, Like because people see it visually and it affects you.

2582
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:18,680
Speaker 9: You see Woods on the golf course, you think Tiger

2583
02:20:18,720 --> 02:20:21,360
Speaker 9: Woods the greatest to ever do it. You see James

2584
02:20:21,400 --> 02:20:23,879
Speaker 9: on the basketball court, you think Lebron. It's impossible. And

2585
02:20:23,920 --> 02:20:25,840
Speaker 9: I'm not saying that he had a lie that he's

2586
02:20:25,959 --> 02:20:29,280
Speaker 9: not his kid, but imagine just like not seeing the name,

2587
02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:32,360
Speaker 9: it would I feel like it would naturally just give

2588
02:20:32,440 --> 02:20:32,920
Speaker 9: him a little bit.

2589
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:34,640
Speaker 3: What happens in the movies.

2590
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:39,240
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage is Nicholas Coppola, right, So he's.

2591
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:41,560
Speaker 3: Part of these he's part of the Coppola family.

2592
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:44,840
Speaker 2: But he made an early decision that he didn't want

2593
02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:47,760
Speaker 2: to be deemed like, oh, he's got an unfair advantage

2594
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:49,960
Speaker 2: as a Coppola, so became Nicholas Cage.

2595
02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:52,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, and that makes exactly.

2596
02:20:51,959 --> 02:20:54,560
Speaker 2: And by the way, that happens quite a bit because

2597
02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:56,560
Speaker 2: we all assume a lot of nepotism, which it is

2598
02:20:56,600 --> 02:20:56,959
Speaker 2: going on.

2599
02:20:57,120 --> 02:20:58,320
Speaker 8: It is gets a lot of.

2600
02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 2: People an opportunity others would not get, yeah, because they're

2601
02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:01,600
Speaker 2: connected in some way.

2602
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:03,080
Speaker 3: But he did change his name.

2603
02:21:03,400 --> 02:21:05,760
Speaker 9: Now I'm only assuming it's like this. I've actually never

2604
02:21:05,800 --> 02:21:07,440
Speaker 9: been to like your real golf event. So this is

2605
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:10,800
Speaker 9: coming from my experience of watching a million times happy Gilmore.

2606
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,880
Speaker 9: So when you go to these golf events, is it

2607
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:15,840
Speaker 9: like a board full of their names and you can

2608
02:21:15,920 --> 02:21:18,080
Speaker 9: like walk by and see everybody participating.

2609
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:19,040
Speaker 8: Is that still happen?

2610
02:21:19,200 --> 02:21:19,360
Speaker 7: Right?

2611
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:20,000
Speaker 8: So that's what I mean.

2612
02:21:20,040 --> 02:21:22,119
Speaker 9: Imagine you're at this event and you don't know who's playing,

2613
02:21:22,120 --> 02:21:25,879
Speaker 9: but you see Woods, You're like, huh, it just automatically goes.

2614
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:27,440
Speaker 8: So that's no, I get it.

2615
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:30,400
Speaker 2: I think I think if he had gone him honestly,

2616
02:21:30,400 --> 02:21:32,600
Speaker 2: if you go by Charlie Ornberger.

2617
02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:34,440
Speaker 8: Yah, exactly.

2618
02:21:34,720 --> 02:21:37,280
Speaker 1: Or how about this, like just just changing into another

2619
02:21:37,320 --> 02:21:42,360
Speaker 1: famous Charlie like Charlie Daniels, Arlie Chablin or Charlie Chablet

2620
02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:43,400
Speaker 1: or Charlie Murphy.

2621
02:21:43,720 --> 02:21:46,440
Speaker 8: Yeah, just say make people think something else.

2622
02:21:47,280 --> 02:21:56,360
Speaker 1: You know, how about Charlie Sheen, Charlie she idea, it's

2623
02:21:56,400 --> 02:21:59,160
Speaker 1: a great idea. I just throwing out some ideas.

2624
02:21:59,160 --> 02:21:59,640
Speaker 8: No, I get it.

2625
02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:00,400
Speaker 1: I like it.

2626
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:02,680
Speaker 8: But I was saying, see this kid, we're onto something.

2627
02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:04,600
Speaker 8: I'm just saying, yes.

2628
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:06,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right right right right.

2629
02:22:06,400 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 9: The Phoenix Sun scored forty five points in the first quarter.

2630
02:22:09,840 --> 02:22:12,400
Speaker 9: But that's not all they're doing. They're out rebounding the

2631
02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:14,879
Speaker 9: Lakers twenty three to eleven so far.

2632
02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:15,480
Speaker 8: In this game.

2633
02:22:15,720 --> 02:22:18,080
Speaker 9: And they are beating the Lakers sixty one to fifty

2634
02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:20,039
Speaker 9: with four minutes left in the first half.

2635
02:22:20,120 --> 02:22:22,959
Speaker 8: And we've got some NFL stars in this game. In Phoenix.

2636
02:22:23,000 --> 02:22:26,360
Speaker 9: They just showed Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow together sitting

2637
02:22:26,400 --> 02:22:27,280
Speaker 9: down and join the game.

2638
02:22:27,320 --> 02:22:29,400
Speaker 8: They also showed Odell Beckham junior.

2639
02:22:29,120 --> 02:22:31,280
Speaker 9: At this game, so they wanted to see some of

2640
02:22:31,320 --> 02:22:34,800
Speaker 9: the best in Phoenix. Earlier today, it was the Bucks

2641
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:38,200
Speaker 9: who beat the Philadelphia seventy six ers in Philly one,

2642
02:22:38,320 --> 02:22:41,560
Speaker 9: nineteen to ninety eight. The Bucks had eighteen turnovers, they

2643
02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:44,720
Speaker 9: still won. Philly only had ten turnovers, so they weren't

2644
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:48,600
Speaker 9: able to capitalize on that. In college hoops number three,

2645
02:22:48,640 --> 02:22:51,400
Speaker 9: per Doue held onto b Michigan eighty four to seventy five.

2646
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:52,720
Speaker 8: Onto the ice.

2647
02:22:52,480 --> 02:22:54,440
Speaker 9: One game going on, the Penguins are on top of

2648
02:22:54,440 --> 02:22:57,120
Speaker 9: the Flyers after the first period two to one. And

2649
02:22:57,200 --> 02:23:00,800
Speaker 9: the little MLB news this is coming from USA Today

2650
02:23:00,800 --> 02:23:03,800
Speaker 9: and The Athletic that the Dodgers are expected to hire

2651
02:23:03,879 --> 02:23:06,240
Speaker 9: Matt Kemp in an advisory role.

2652
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:08,760
Speaker 8: Matt Kemp returning to the lawyers.

2653
02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:11,760
Speaker 3: Matt Camp was a very popular Dodger.

2654
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:15,360
Speaker 2: Then, of course his infamous trade to the Padres. And

2655
02:23:16,040 --> 02:23:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, he had good seasons. He had a couple

2656
02:23:18,800 --> 02:23:20,040
Speaker 2: of good seasons with the Braves.

2657
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Something just ended with him.

2658
02:23:23,920 --> 02:23:25,480
Speaker 8: He got hurt and then just it was.

2659
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:27,279
Speaker 3: Remember who he was dating.

2660
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:30,720
Speaker 9: Right, he dated Rihanna in fact a long time.

2661
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:33,320
Speaker 3: In fact, we broke that story.

2662
02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:35,960
Speaker 2: This was something way back in the day when Chris

2663
02:23:36,080 --> 02:23:38,080
Speaker 2: Myers and I were doing our national show here on

2664
02:23:38,120 --> 02:23:40,119
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio where.

2665
02:23:39,920 --> 02:23:41,600
Speaker 3: We actually made the news.

2666
02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:44,920
Speaker 2: We had Matt Camp on the show and we asked

2667
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:50,840
Speaker 2: him about his dating and he really didn't want to

2668
02:23:50,879 --> 02:23:51,560
Speaker 2: go there.

2669
02:23:52,360 --> 02:23:58,600
Speaker 3: And what's the guy's name, Chris Brown, Charles perez Hilton,

2670
02:23:58,760 --> 02:24:01,680
Speaker 3: Perez Hilton. He's sort of like a gossip Yes, yes, yeah,

2671
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:02,080
Speaker 3: that's right.

2672
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:06,960
Speaker 2: And he wrote up our names in his column because

2673
02:24:07,000 --> 02:24:11,160
Speaker 2: we had talked to Matt Kemp about his dating. Look

2674
02:24:11,200 --> 02:24:14,120
Speaker 2: at you, I'm like, when would my name ever appear

2675
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:16,040
Speaker 2: in a Perez Hilton column?

2676
02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:18,600
Speaker 9: I mean that was pretty that is good job for

2677
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:21,600
Speaker 9: you sports, that was yeah.

2678
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:24,080
Speaker 12: I don't forget, don't forget Matt Kemp's resurgent year in

2679
02:24:24,120 --> 02:24:26,680
Speaker 12: twenty eighteen with the Dodgers. Yeah, came back, he was,

2680
02:24:26,760 --> 02:24:28,200
Speaker 12: he made the All Star.

2681
02:24:28,480 --> 02:24:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he made the All Star team that year. All right,

2682
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:34,000
Speaker 2: Mon's a great job as always out there. Hey, Rich,

2683
02:24:34,040 --> 02:24:36,240
Speaker 2: I want to get back to something you mentioned very

2684
02:24:36,280 --> 02:24:38,920
Speaker 2: early in the show today, and that was that rumor

2685
02:24:39,480 --> 02:24:42,320
Speaker 2: of a deal between the Lakers and the Warriors involving

2686
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:43,320
Speaker 2: Lebron James.

2687
02:24:43,360 --> 02:24:45,400
Speaker 3: And man, they ran with this.

2688
02:24:45,320 --> 02:24:50,640
Speaker 2: Thing, and I'm like, Okay, let's let's think about any

2689
02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:51,880
Speaker 2: substance to this story.

2690
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:52,840
Speaker 1: Now.

2691
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:59,000
Speaker 2: Is it possible that the Warriors inquired about Lebron James? Okay, maybe,

2692
02:24:59,200 --> 02:25:02,600
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he's not happy with the Lakers, and

2693
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:06,240
Speaker 2: you know, we're not doing great things here the Golden State,

2694
02:25:06,400 --> 02:25:10,200
Speaker 2: So maybe if we could get Lebron James. And I'm

2695
02:25:10,280 --> 02:25:12,680
Speaker 2: thinking to myself, by the way, shortly after that, Lebron

2696
02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:14,959
Speaker 2: made it clear he wants to end his career as

2697
02:25:14,959 --> 02:25:19,800
Speaker 2: a Laker. But I was like, why are people running

2698
02:25:19,879 --> 02:25:23,000
Speaker 2: with this story? First of all, did the story make

2699
02:25:23,080 --> 02:25:27,199
Speaker 2: any sense from the Lakers standpoint? Because if you're the Lakers,

2700
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:32,640
Speaker 2: you are a star oriented organization. Look at the retired

2701
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:37,160
Speaker 2: jerseys hanging in the rafters. They've always had superstar players

2702
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,600
Speaker 2: and they're blessed with another superstar player, Lebron James. You

2703
02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:43,560
Speaker 2: take him out, and by the way, oh that's right,

2704
02:25:43,640 --> 02:25:48,400
Speaker 2: let's put him in our rivals team. And how would

2705
02:25:48,400 --> 02:25:51,280
Speaker 2: that work for the Lakers? What exactly did they have

2706
02:25:51,400 --> 02:25:53,280
Speaker 2: to offer in return? Unless you're going to make a

2707
02:25:53,320 --> 02:25:56,360
Speaker 2: straight up trade for Steph Curry, but he could give

2708
02:25:56,400 --> 02:26:00,200
Speaker 2: us a broken down Klay Thompson, Come on, I'm very well.

2709
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:04,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I just laughed at that story because I'm like,

2710
02:26:05,120 --> 02:26:10,119
Speaker 2: on any level, it made absolutely no sense other than

2711
02:26:10,160 --> 02:26:12,320
Speaker 2: the fact that, sure, I mean the Warriors, Hey, can

2712
02:26:12,360 --> 02:26:13,520
Speaker 2: we get Lebron James?

2713
02:26:13,640 --> 02:26:15,840
Speaker 3: Oh sure, what do you need?

2714
02:26:15,920 --> 02:26:18,920
Speaker 2: Well, of course, we're gonna trade Lebron to our rival,

2715
02:26:18,959 --> 02:26:21,640
Speaker 2: the Warriors to help you win a championship.

2716
02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:23,000
Speaker 3: Did that make any sense to you?

2717
02:26:24,080 --> 02:26:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you how it makes sense. It makes

2718
02:26:26,520 --> 02:26:30,600
Speaker 1: sense only in two ways to my brain. One, it

2719
02:26:30,680 --> 02:26:36,320
Speaker 1: makes sense because the Warriors wanted to somehow snap some

2720
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:38,520
Speaker 1: of the players on their team out of a little

2721
02:26:38,520 --> 02:26:42,160
Speaker 1: bit of a funk and start playing better. Because look,

2722
02:26:42,280 --> 02:26:45,000
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson, for as good as he's been historically, is

2723
02:26:45,040 --> 02:26:47,920
Speaker 1: having a down year and for a little stretch of

2724
02:26:47,959 --> 02:26:51,840
Speaker 1: the season has lost his stroke. And so if you're

2725
02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:54,760
Speaker 1: if you're Klay Thompson, you hear that Lebron James and

2726
02:26:54,800 --> 02:27:00,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers were in talks. You know they're not trading Staph.

2727
02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:03,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not one hundred percent sure if they're

2728
02:27:04,040 --> 02:27:07,560
Speaker 1: if they're trading you or not. Same with Wiggins. You know.

2729
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:12,920
Speaker 1: So this this was a machination, you know, reportedly of

2730
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:17,320
Speaker 1: Draymond Green, who's with Clutch Sports, and he spoke to

2731
02:27:17,920 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 1: I get I mean again, this is all sources reporting,

2732
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:22,560
Speaker 1: so who knows what the truth is. But he spoke

2733
02:27:22,600 --> 02:27:25,080
Speaker 1: to his agent to find a way to get Lebron

2734
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:28,440
Speaker 1: on his squad. And so this this may have been

2735
02:27:28,480 --> 02:27:31,080
Speaker 1: one of those things that it wouldn't have reached the

2736
02:27:31,120 --> 02:27:34,280
Speaker 1: press unless somebody on the Warrior side felt like there

2737
02:27:34,440 --> 02:27:38,760
Speaker 1: was an advantage for their team knowing that this was

2738
02:27:38,879 --> 02:27:43,360
Speaker 1: even something being discussed, or and this seems to me

2739
02:27:43,480 --> 02:27:49,320
Speaker 1: to be the likelier situation. Lebron James obviously has designs

2740
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:54,560
Speaker 1: of playing at some point with Bronni I mean, since

2741
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:57,720
Speaker 1: this was a Clutch Sports special, you know, there's this

2742
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:00,840
Speaker 1: Draymond talking to his agent with Clutch Sports. Rich Paul,

2743
02:28:01,400 --> 02:28:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, is Clutch Sports founder Lebron James' childhood friend.

2744
02:28:06,440 --> 02:28:10,880
Speaker 1: You know, maybe this report got out because Lebron is

2745
02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:15,280
Speaker 1: telling the brass in LA. Look, you know, it's not

2746
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:19,920
Speaker 1: one hundred percent that I am, like, like not willing

2747
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:23,199
Speaker 1: to be traded elsewhere, like what I hew. Like, maybe

2748
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:25,480
Speaker 1: the reason why this comes out, this report comes out

2749
02:28:25,560 --> 02:28:28,720
Speaker 1: is Lebron says, look, I turned down this trade, Like

2750
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I was willing to walk away from this trade and

2751
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:34,000
Speaker 1: stay in LA and keep working with you folks. But

2752
02:28:34,879 --> 02:28:37,760
Speaker 1: just just know that there's there's teams out there who

2753
02:28:37,800 --> 02:28:42,440
Speaker 1: want me, and there there are people who I would

2754
02:28:42,560 --> 02:28:45,680
Speaker 1: leave LA for. And so I'm just letting you know that. Okay,

2755
02:28:45,879 --> 02:28:48,360
Speaker 1: Bronni is gonna be Bronn coming out of college.

2756
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:52,840
Speaker 2: Okay, Bronnie James this year in his first year at

2757
02:28:52,920 --> 02:28:57,840
Speaker 2: USC is averaging five points three rebounds to assist, shooting

2758
02:28:58,000 --> 02:29:01,880
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent from the field, twenty seven percent from

2759
02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:05,119
Speaker 2: three point line, and sixty two percent from the free

2760
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:06,520
Speaker 2: throw line.

2761
02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:09,360
Speaker 3: The idea that this is an NBA player.

2762
02:29:09,520 --> 02:29:12,480
Speaker 2: James tells a team to take up a roster spot

2763
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:14,640
Speaker 2: to make room for Ronnie James.

2764
02:29:15,280 --> 02:29:19,600
Speaker 1: If Lebron James wants his son to be a Laker

2765
02:29:19,680 --> 02:29:23,920
Speaker 1: next year, the Lakers are gonna make Lebron or excuse me,

2766
02:29:24,120 --> 02:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Bronni a Laker. That is that is absurd one hundred percent.

2767
02:29:29,800 --> 02:29:32,879
Speaker 2: You're telling me that you're gonna put You're gonna use

2768
02:29:32,959 --> 02:29:39,640
Speaker 2: up a roster spot, yep, to put Ronnie James, who

2769
02:29:39,879 --> 02:29:43,840
Speaker 2: has shown nothing at the collegiate level to indicate that

2770
02:29:43,879 --> 02:29:47,240
Speaker 2: he belongs anywhere near an NBA court, at least at

2771
02:29:47,240 --> 02:29:50,600
Speaker 2: this point. And you're gonna use up a roster spot

2772
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:52,440
Speaker 2: to appease Lebron James.

2773
02:29:53,280 --> 02:29:57,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if that's what Lebron James wants, if that's

2774
02:29:57,120 --> 02:29:59,920
Speaker 1: what Bronni wants, then it's gonna happen.

2775
02:30:00,280 --> 02:30:00,560
Speaker 5: Wow.

2776
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:02,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's part again.

2777
02:30:02,200 --> 02:30:03,960
Speaker 2: I think that would be that would be the low

2778
02:30:04,040 --> 02:30:06,200
Speaker 2: point in Lakers history. And this is coming from a

2779
02:30:06,240 --> 02:30:11,200
Speaker 2: lifelong Lakers fan. There would be no lower point decision

2780
02:30:11,280 --> 02:30:13,880
Speaker 2: than that. I mean, if I had seen some indication

2781
02:30:14,040 --> 02:30:16,840
Speaker 2: this year that you know, Bronni's ready for the NBA,

2782
02:30:16,959 --> 02:30:20,400
Speaker 2: maybe be a different story. Thirty seven percent shooting total,

2783
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:23,880
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent from three point shooting, sixty two percent

2784
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:25,640
Speaker 2: free throw shooting, five points a game.

2785
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:31,720
Speaker 1: No, okay, but hang on, pause for a second. Tell

2786
02:30:31,760 --> 02:30:35,600
Speaker 1: me there's no way say it with certainty that there's

2787
02:30:35,800 --> 02:30:38,400
Speaker 1: no way you could see Bronni with those stats.

2788
02:30:38,480 --> 02:30:42,640
Speaker 2: Anyone that is not Maine James with those stats would

2789
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:48,240
Speaker 2: not literally show up on anybody's radar one thousand percent.

2790
02:30:48,879 --> 02:30:53,879
Speaker 2: You have those numbers, there are obviously players stuff.

2791
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:57,080
Speaker 3: That have very similar numbers that we're not talking about the.

2792
02:30:57,080 --> 02:30:59,960
Speaker 1: Questionnbas hang on, Yeah, that's not the question I asked you.

2793
02:31:00,320 --> 02:31:03,080
Speaker 1: The question I asked you was it doesn't matter about

2794
02:31:03,080 --> 02:31:06,720
Speaker 1: the numbers. You're telling me there's no way in your

2795
02:31:06,800 --> 02:31:10,680
Speaker 1: mind the Lakers bring Bronni James onto their team.

2796
02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:13,200
Speaker 3: That what I am saying is they're no way they

2797
02:31:13,360 --> 02:31:14,400
Speaker 3: should do that.

2798
02:31:15,360 --> 02:31:18,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't think anybody the Lakers.

2799
02:31:18,280 --> 02:31:21,480
Speaker 2: Your idea is to win a championship. Laker fans, you

2800
02:31:21,480 --> 02:31:23,920
Speaker 2: know we talk about high bars and how earlier I

2801
02:31:23,959 --> 02:31:27,000
Speaker 2: said Patrick Mahomes is the only true franchise quarterback in

2802
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:30,760
Speaker 2: the NFL. When you're a Lakers fan, as Kobe Bryant

2803
02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:33,560
Speaker 2: said to me on many of occasions, there are two

2804
02:31:33,640 --> 02:31:36,879
Speaker 2: seasons a ar F. Either we win the championship or

2805
02:31:36,879 --> 02:31:40,959
Speaker 2: we don't. So if that's your standard, and somehow you're

2806
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:43,680
Speaker 2: going to bring in a kid that has no business

2807
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:46,879
Speaker 2: in the NBA as of right now and make room

2808
02:31:46,959 --> 02:31:50,240
Speaker 2: on a roster to put him there just to appease

2809
02:31:50,840 --> 02:31:51,720
Speaker 2: Lebron James.

2810
02:31:52,480 --> 02:31:54,279
Speaker 3: That then the Lakers would.

2811
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:56,160
Speaker 1: Have all time.

2812
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:58,360
Speaker 3: Look all right, we're up against it. We can finish

2813
02:31:58,440 --> 02:31:59,320
Speaker 3: on the other so you're.

2814
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:01,080
Speaker 1: Allowed to go on the other side. I want you

2815
02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:01,880
Speaker 1: to answer this question.

2816
02:32:02,400 --> 02:32:05,000
Speaker 3: You give me the question they said, is.

2817
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:09,640
Speaker 1: Appeasing Lebron James enough of a reason no to bring

2818
02:32:09,720 --> 02:32:10,800
Speaker 1: in Broy.

2819
02:32:10,520 --> 02:32:13,160
Speaker 2: No, because right now they're a five hundred basketball team,

2820
02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:16,000
Speaker 2: so it's not like they're winning championships with Lebron right now.

2821
02:32:16,200 --> 02:32:17,000
Speaker 3: We continue on.

2822
02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:20,320
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, rich Ronberger, Fox

2823
02:32:20,320 --> 02:32:22,600
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We a lot from the tire rack dot

2824
02:32:22,640 --> 02:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Com studios want to thank our crew today are amazing

2825
02:32:27,440 --> 02:32:33,680
Speaker 2: supporting casts. Monsei doing a phenomenal job and counting heads

2826
02:32:33,720 --> 02:32:36,039
Speaker 2: coming in so that she wouldn't have to overspend in

2827
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:37,480
Speaker 2: terms of breakfast burritos.

2828
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:41,119
Speaker 9: So you know, not just overspend, but also nobody wants

2829
02:32:41,120 --> 02:32:44,279
Speaker 9: to overeat, you know, like you don't want to feel

2830
02:32:44,320 --> 02:32:46,240
Speaker 9: like that. So because trust me, I know, like somebody

2831
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,920
Speaker 9: would eventually eat it. But also it's eggs and cheese

2832
02:32:48,920 --> 02:32:50,680
Speaker 9: and bacon. You don't want to eat that later. You

2833
02:32:50,680 --> 02:32:51,800
Speaker 9: gotta eat it fresh.

2834
02:32:51,640 --> 02:32:53,400
Speaker 3: No, no, you need it fresh and everything.

2835
02:32:53,600 --> 02:32:53,800
Speaker 1: Now.

2836
02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:56,400
Speaker 3: Chris obviously is one guy that counts on that.

2837
02:32:57,400 --> 02:32:59,920
Speaker 11: I just I have a relation with fast food brack

2838
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:03,040
Speaker 11: this that I need to resolve at some point.

2839
02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:05,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2840
02:33:05,160 --> 02:33:06,879
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if it tastes good to you, you

2841
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:09,200
Speaker 2: know it's It's sort of like Warren Buffett, right, he's

2842
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:12,400
Speaker 2: ninety three years old. He's he's by all accounts, the

2843
02:33:12,440 --> 02:33:15,080
Speaker 2: fifth wealthiest man on the planet, worth about one hundred

2844
02:33:15,080 --> 02:33:17,959
Speaker 2: and sixty billion dollars. He still lives in the same

2845
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:20,600
Speaker 2: fourteen thousand dollars track home that he grew up in

2846
02:33:21,080 --> 02:33:23,920
Speaker 2: or bought years ago. He has a twenty year old car,

2847
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:26,440
Speaker 2: and he literally eats a McDonald's every day and drinks

2848
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:29,840
Speaker 2: Coca colas. Oh Man, and his attitude about food is

2849
02:33:30,440 --> 02:33:33,120
Speaker 2: I figured out by age six what it is I

2850
02:33:33,240 --> 02:33:35,360
Speaker 2: like to eat, and I've stuck with it ever since.

2851
02:33:35,480 --> 02:33:38,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it works for him, So I like that.

2852
02:33:38,840 --> 02:33:41,440
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that's the Steve Hartman story

2853
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:43,920
Speaker 1: without the investing.

2854
02:33:43,600 --> 02:33:46,520
Speaker 3: Right exactly. You have a very mini, very.

2855
02:33:46,480 --> 02:33:51,160
Speaker 1: Routine, limited menu that you eat from.

2856
02:33:51,400 --> 02:33:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Bo's I think it's pretty similar, right, Bo.

2857
02:33:54,959 --> 02:33:57,080
Speaker 2: I mean you you know what you like, and you

2858
02:33:57,120 --> 02:33:59,240
Speaker 2: just steered toward what it is you like.

2859
02:34:00,160 --> 02:34:02,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I don't eat sushi much to my

2860
02:34:02,160 --> 02:34:04,759
Speaker 12: wife's sugar inne. But other than that, yeah.

2861
02:34:04,480 --> 02:34:07,000
Speaker 2: Alien, I mean, I mean I have people that are

2862
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:10,800
Speaker 2: you know, rich, Rich is a pretty wide variety of foods.

2863
02:34:11,080 --> 02:34:13,760
Speaker 3: Rich. I've seen you dabble in a lot of different

2864
02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:14,600
Speaker 3: things over the years.

2865
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:18,760
Speaker 1: Take one look at me, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, well,

2866
02:34:19,400 --> 02:34:22,000
Speaker 1: I enjoy I enjoyed the Coulon.

2867
02:34:22,240 --> 02:34:24,480
Speaker 2: Eventually, when you get to my stage, believe me, you're

2868
02:34:24,560 --> 02:34:26,600
Speaker 2: you're going to cross a lot of things off the list.

2869
02:34:26,840 --> 02:34:29,000
Speaker 3: You're going to say, all right that, Yeah I get.

2870
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:32,039
Speaker 2: I mean the idea is you you try things in live, right,

2871
02:34:32,440 --> 02:34:35,680
Speaker 2: but then you just okay, cross that one.

2872
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess I guess already I could

2873
02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:40,560
Speaker 1: see that. I definitely have my wheelhouse work that I

2874
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:43,879
Speaker 1: like to exist in. But I'm still I don't know.

2875
02:34:43,959 --> 02:34:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not old. I'm thirty eight this year,

2876
02:34:47,560 --> 02:34:52,720
Speaker 1: you know, But but I enjoy, uh, I enjoy experimenting

2877
02:34:52,760 --> 02:34:55,320
Speaker 1: with new, new items like. You know, if I walk

2878
02:34:55,400 --> 02:34:58,720
Speaker 1: through a grocery store I see one of those spiky melons,

2879
02:34:58,879 --> 02:35:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm not going to shyway. I'll buy a spikey mellon. Problem.

2880
02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:04,840
Speaker 2: All right, Well, one thing I'm not buying into is

2881
02:35:04,879 --> 02:35:09,879
Speaker 2: your Bronni James suggestion here and all you like I said,

2882
02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:15,080
Speaker 2: that would be well, the organization would be mocked beyond belief.

2883
02:35:15,080 --> 02:35:17,600
Speaker 2: And no, by the way, when I talked about the

2884
02:35:17,640 --> 02:35:21,600
Speaker 2: absurdity of trading Lebron James to the Warriors, I'm not

2885
02:35:21,640 --> 02:35:25,320
Speaker 2: saying it's absurd to trade Lebron James. I mean I

2886
02:35:25,720 --> 02:35:29,440
Speaker 2: just wouldn't hand him to my rival in my own conference.

2887
02:35:29,480 --> 02:35:32,720
Speaker 2: I mean, that would make absolutely no sense. But if

2888
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:35,600
Speaker 2: you want to give him to the Knicks in exchange

2889
02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:37,720
Speaker 2: for a bunch of picks, I do that in a heartbeat.

2890
02:35:38,400 --> 02:35:40,800
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the Lakers have gone as far

2891
02:35:40,840 --> 02:35:42,440
Speaker 2: as they're going to get with Lebron James.

2892
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:45,039
Speaker 3: He won a championship. Is there an asterisk in my book?

2893
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:45,440
Speaker 1: There is?

2894
02:35:45,640 --> 02:35:48,520
Speaker 2: But he delivered. He won a championship with the Lakers.

2895
02:35:48,920 --> 02:35:51,400
Speaker 2: But is it going to get any better for the Lakers?

2896
02:35:51,400 --> 02:35:53,360
Speaker 2: They're an idol right now. They've been an Idol for

2897
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:54,040
Speaker 2: several years.

2898
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:56,400
Speaker 3: Oh no, they made a runner the Western Conference Finals

2899
02:35:56,440 --> 02:35:58,600
Speaker 3: last year. It was a fluke. It's not gonna happen

2900
02:35:58,640 --> 02:36:01,080
Speaker 3: again this year. So no, I would.

2901
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:03,920
Speaker 2: I would trade Lebron James and maybe another team would

2902
02:36:03,959 --> 02:36:06,400
Speaker 2: sucker into signing his son to you know, put him

2903
02:36:06,400 --> 02:36:07,520
Speaker 2: in an NBA uniform.

2904
02:36:07,520 --> 02:36:10,960
Speaker 1: But no, not with I'm telling you I if he

2905
02:36:11,160 --> 02:36:14,560
Speaker 1: wants Brownie Junior on the team, they are going to

2906
02:36:14,600 --> 02:36:15,519
Speaker 1: sign Brianne.

2907
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:15,920
Speaker 3: Junior, all right.

2908
02:36:15,959 --> 02:36:17,840
Speaker 2: I would just son that team if they did that.

2909
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Speaker 2: Keep it here on Fox Sports Radio.