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Speaker 2: It's the Final Hour in this Thursday Dan and the
Speaker 2: Danet's Dan Patrick Show. The Mets are going to have
Speaker 2: a new play caller coming up on Monday night against
Speaker 2: Buffalo as one of their assistant coaches. Is this Todd Downing?
Speaker 2: Who is going to be promoted now? Is he offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator or is he just going to be elevated to
Speaker 2: calling plays which feels like that would be what Nathaniel
Speaker 2: Hackett does as offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: All that was said by the Jets is that Todd Downing,
Speaker 3: which sounds like a made up name, by the way,
Speaker 3: does not sound like a real person, is calling plays
Speaker 3: for the next game. No word on status, job titles.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Final hour here. John Smoltz was on
Speaker 2: the call last night with the Dodgers and the Podres,
Speaker 2: the Dodgers using eight pitchers shutting out the Padres. And
Speaker 2: now we have a game five. You have Guardians at
Speaker 2: the Tigers, that's coming up later on today, Yankees at
Speaker 2: the Royals, and then forty nine ers at the Seahawks.
Speaker 2: So Johnny Smoltz will join us coming up here in
Speaker 2: a little bit. Good morning, If you're watching on Peacock.
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Speaker 2: one woman who in her best Marilyn Monroe voice, was
Speaker 2: singing Happy Birthday to Todd.
Speaker 4: Was very well done by.
Speaker 2: Her, and we got Todd in an ice cream cake
Speaker 2: and so we'll have that for him coming up a
Speaker 2: little bit later on very thoughtful. Thank you, Todd eight
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Speaker 2: preview that coming up tomorrow. So it's Big ten Saturday
Speaker 2: Night Ohio State and Oregon. You know, I was wondering
Speaker 2: about this. When Oregon, USC, UCLA, Washington joined the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: I think people joked about the cross country travel. The
Speaker 2: jokes have become a reality six weeks into the college
Speaker 2: football season. As of today, teams who have been forced
Speaker 2: to travel a significant distance across the country have lost
Speaker 2: nine out of ten games so far in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2: To make it more interesting, or where, seventy percent of
Speaker 2: those teams failed to cover the spread in that same game,
Speaker 2: meaning they're not only losing, but the games haven't been
Speaker 2: competitive either. And I know it's a small sample size,
Speaker 2: but this is the downside of Hey, everybody, you can
Speaker 2: travel to Piscataway, New Jersey. That's not a big deal,
Speaker 2: leaving you know, Southern California, Oregon hosting Ohio State. We
Speaker 2: knew this was going to happen. Practical, that's why you
Speaker 2: have regional conferences, so you cut down on travel, you
Speaker 2: cut down on cost. The other sports that fall under
Speaker 2: this financial umbrella. But hey, football rules, and it's going
Speaker 2: to continue to rule until we have this moment. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I'm going to be alive when it happens,
Speaker 2: but it'll be a oh, you know what we should do.
Speaker 2: Let's get sixty of the top schools and then we'll
Speaker 2: put them in regions and then they'll play one another,
Speaker 2: maybe they'll play them twice, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we'll have a large playoff. Yeah, that's what we're going
Speaker 2: to do, basically the NFL model. Now, I did talk
Speaker 2: to somebody, a college football source, who said there are
Speaker 2: plans in play by different people, different groups, not the SEC,
Speaker 2: not the Big Ten, not the NCAA. They're trying to
Speaker 2: come up with a formula where we would have at
Speaker 2: least twenty four playoffs, twenty four playoff games or twenty
Speaker 2: four playoff teams. And they have it, you know, where
Speaker 2: they this is how much money there's going to be
Speaker 2: rev share. There's going to be a collective bargaining agreement.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to be basically professional football players
Speaker 2: in waiting to be really truly professional football players. And
Speaker 2: this is a model that's being worked on as we speak.
Speaker 2: And I was given, you know, I was privy to
Speaker 2: at least a little bit of the information. What they
Speaker 2: what they think is going to happen is you're going
Speaker 2: to have twenty four teams qualify for the playoffs. Now
Speaker 2: you have twelve we just start. We haven't even gotten
Speaker 2: into it yet. Now they want to expand because now
Speaker 2: everybody realizes the amount of money. What you're going to
Speaker 2: get back to is regional matchups. You're going to have
Speaker 2: teams on the West coast playing teams on the West coast.
Speaker 2: That will be that division. They'll be one let's say, Southwest, Southeast, Northeast, Midwest.
Speaker 2: This is what's going to happen. So basically what we've
Speaker 2: had before where conferences stayed within I don't know, a
Speaker 2: couple hour radius time radius of travel, and that's what
Speaker 2: they're looking at right now. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: if it comes to fruition, but we haven't even gotten
Speaker 2: into the twelve team playoff and they're already looking at
Speaker 2: a twenty fourteen playoff and maybe that's sixty schools and
Speaker 2: they would fall under the umbrella. Now, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of work to be done. I know that they've reached
Speaker 2: out to Greg Sanke, the SEC commissioner, and you know,
Speaker 2: does he want to bless this? I think he is
Speaker 2: backed away from that from what I'm told, But once again,
Speaker 2: it's kind of in the embryonic stages. But just to
Speaker 2: let you know, this is moving fast. May mean we're
Speaker 2: not even into twelve team playoff and now they're talking
Speaker 2: twenty four and that's where we're headed, and that's where
Speaker 2: it's going to be a model. That's and I've asked
Speaker 2: about relegation because I was told that I was a
Speaker 2: big proponent of relegation to add yet another I don't know,
Speaker 2: week of drama there, and I was told that that
Speaker 2: was received, not well received, but received that they would,
Speaker 2: you know, think about this, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine, Like you can't stop it now. Remember I
Speaker 2: was I wanted from two to four. I said, I'll
Speaker 2: be happy with four, and I would have been happy
Speaker 2: with four teams. But then all of a sudden, it's well,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, it's like having a lottery ticket. And
Speaker 2: I'll go back to when I broke the news they
Speaker 2: were going to try to break that contract and move
Speaker 2: it up so they could go to twelve teams instead
Speaker 2: of having four teams. They were going to break the
Speaker 2: Bowl contract and everybody said you can't do it. I said,
Speaker 2: you can have a winning lottery ticket and everybody's going
Speaker 2: to make more money. And that's exactly what they did.
Speaker 2: They moved it up. Now they want to move it
Speaker 2: up even quicker because now we're looking at twenty four schools.
Speaker 2: So whether it happens two years, three years, four years,
Speaker 2: five years, that's where we're headed. But we are headed
Speaker 2: for collective bargaining players getting paid. There is going to
Speaker 2: be a reb share where schools I was told would
Speaker 2: probably football schools would probably get seventy five percent of
Speaker 2: the REB share, and then the trickle down with other programs.
Speaker 2: So these are all things being discussed now. They're being
Speaker 2: discussed by people who are outside of the college football world.
Speaker 2: They're business people trying to create a plan. Yes, Pauline, I.
Speaker 3: Do have a little background on this. About a week
Speaker 3: or so ago, this kind of mysterious email went around
Speaker 3: to people who cover college football. It was from a
Speaker 3: group that calls itself College Sports Tomorrow CST. It's a quote.
Speaker 3: This is from the press release. A group of respected,
Speaker 3: influential progressive leaders in higher education and sports. Sorry, they're
Speaker 3: in the like you said, embryonic stages of things called
Speaker 3: the College Student Football League the CSFL, and as part
Speaker 3: of their plan, it could be seventy two programs compete
Speaker 3: in a power twelve conferences and then the second tier
Speaker 3: would be sixty four teams. Kind of what you've been
Speaker 3: saying for years. But this has been pitched from quote
Speaker 3: unquote outsiders, college football businessmen, some people who work in it.
Speaker 3: Guys like Greg Sank and the SEC are not involved
Speaker 3: in this, but they got the whiff of this about
Speaker 3: a week or so ago.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been going on, so we haven't even
Speaker 2: had the twelve team playoffs, but they're going to because
Speaker 2: everybody understands the amount of money that's at stake here,
Speaker 2: and that's why they're going to do it. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a question of if, but when, all right,
Speaker 2: Thursday night football. This is kind of spicy though, Seattle
Speaker 2: against San Francisco. San Francisco given three and a half here.
Speaker 2: Time for Dower Rankings. Yes it is Thursday. Seaton is
Speaker 2: the host of Dower rankings. If you'll explain Dour rankings.
Speaker 2: And do we have any music for Dower rankings? Marvin,
Speaker 2: We do, all right, Seaton.
Speaker 6: I think we're going to go around the room here
Speaker 6: and go with uh, any sport and really anything pop
Speaker 6: culture even I think something that you're down on, down,
Speaker 6: something that you're down on. Lots of people do power rankings.
Speaker 6: These are like the strongest things. Right now, We're going
Speaker 6: to go Dower. These things are kind.
Speaker 7: Of weak right now, Dour. Yeah, yeah, I'm happy to
Speaker 7: start out.
Speaker 6: Okay, give us an example example of right now being
Speaker 6: lost in all of the uh Mets sort of victory
Speaker 6: pree of winning that series. Is just how tough it
Speaker 6: is to be a Philadelphia sports fan the last couple
Speaker 6: of years. I'm going Dower rankings on the city of Philadelphia.
Speaker 6: If you go back a couple of years, Phillies blew
Speaker 6: a two to one World.
Speaker 7: Series lead to the Astros, that's tough.
Speaker 6: Then you have the Eagles looking great, Jalen Hurts incredible,
Speaker 6: team makes it to the Super Bowl. They blew a
Speaker 6: ten point lead in the second half to the Chiefs.
Speaker 6: Seventy six ers, can't beat the Celtics, they can't beat
Speaker 6: the Nicks.
Speaker 7: Joel Mbat can't stay healthy. Not great.
Speaker 6: The Eagles start the season ten and one. Last year
Speaker 6: wash out, and now the Phillies again kick it past.
Speaker 7: The Mets to win a playoff series. That is just
Speaker 7: a long stretch for the city of Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Okay, Todd Dower rankings.
Speaker 4: The Cleveland Guardians and scoring two runs in the sixth
Speaker 4: inning in Game one.
Speaker 8: The Guardians have been.
Speaker 4: Shut up for twenty consecutive innings. Over that span, the
Speaker 4: Guardians are hitting one forty seven, which is ten for
Speaker 4: sixty eight, twenty strikeouts and only three extra base hit.
Speaker 2: We did take the Cleveland Browns off the board, correctly,
Speaker 2: correct two Dour, that's just two, yeah, okay, Marvin Dower.
Speaker 8: Rankings, Josh Allen's MVP chances. What up? The Bills got
Speaker 8: Molly watt by the Ravens and then they went and
Speaker 8: he went nine for thirty against the Texans and a loss.
Speaker 2: You don't think he can recover to win the MVP.
Speaker 8: I didn't say that, but I'm dowur on him right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, didn't expect that one early in the season. Media
Speaker 2: Darling Josh Allen MVP, Paul Dower rankings.
Speaker 3: I'm also going to look for the origins of Molly
Speaker 3: wopped because I've heard that phrase before. Kudos to Marvin
Speaker 3: for dropping it. We'll get to that later. I'm going
Speaker 3: to go lightly dour, medium dour. Michigan football. They got
Speaker 3: their four and two. Now, remember they won the national
Speaker 3: title last year and lost their coach so it was
Speaker 3: great season.
Speaker 2: Then there they lost their quarterback, yes.
Speaker 3: And they didn't find a quarterback they have. They're four
Speaker 3: and two there at Illinois, which I think is going
Speaker 3: to be really tough, Michigan State, Oregon, Indiana. They finished
Speaker 3: with Ohio State and then the Big Ten championship game,
Speaker 3: which they will be watching probably, but that's they could
Speaker 3: be out of the college football playoff that's been expanded.
Speaker 2: Wow, lightly dour, lightly down? Damn, I just had my dour. Dang,
Speaker 2: it's it's dour three of the program.
Speaker 7: Eh I Did it have to do with Todd and
Speaker 7: his birthday?
Speaker 2: No? No, I'm not good. No, No, I'm gonna celebrate it.
Speaker 2: What was my What was I bummed down about?
Speaker 7: A kind of put a screech in hate again?
Speaker 3: Maybe your thought was not that dour? So you know,
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 7: Was it the Jets?
Speaker 8: No, the Todd Dower? You doing a play calling now?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: Was it the w NBA Finals?
Speaker 2: No? No, I can't, I can't remember.
Speaker 8: It should be Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2: Uh well, one for eleven with five strikeouts, something, the
Speaker 2: postseason over rated? I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 3: Yes, would you rather be for your career? Lights out?
Speaker 3: In the regular season and average in the postseason, which
Speaker 3: can get you to the Hall of Fame probably, or
Speaker 3: a mediocre regular season player and a lights out guy
Speaker 3: in the regular postseason that probably doesn't go to the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Any sport, you may be in that
Speaker 3: local team's Hall of Fame, like a Julian Edelman's in
Speaker 3: the Patriots Ring of Honor, situation, ring of Honor and rings.
Speaker 2: So would you rather be Julian Edelman or Larry Fitzgerald?
Speaker 3: Oh, that'll question?
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 7: How many times have we done this?
Speaker 3: We do that every year.
Speaker 2: God, you can be Julian Edelman or Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 4: Selfishly, I think I want to be in the Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame even if I don't come through a couple
Speaker 4: of times during.
Speaker 2: The post shocker that you're being selfish.
Speaker 8: I'll be honest.
Speaker 2: He did come through in the Super Bowl. He played well.
Speaker 2: He probably would have been MVP, just not quite that
Speaker 2: good if he had gotten the tackle on James Harrison seton.
Speaker 2: Would you rather be Julian Edelman or Larry Fitzgerald?
Speaker 6: Edelman all day, I want to win, and I want
Speaker 6: to contribute in those wins. He had some massive games
Speaker 6: big catches, all of that. I'll take that all day.
Speaker 2: You can't tell the story of the NFL without Julian Marvin.
Speaker 3: Edelman, Paul Fitzgerald nine Pro Bowls. I'm still passing Julian
Speaker 3: Edman none Pro Bowls, but first ballot never pays for
Speaker 3: a drink in New England again.
Speaker 2: How about Tony Gonzalez, Julian Edelman Todd.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Tony Gonzales, seatan.
Speaker 7: What are the abtions?
Speaker 2: Tony Gonzales, Julian Edelman.
Speaker 7: I'm still taking Julian Edeman.
Speaker 8: Adamman more memorable moment, okay, Pauline Adaman, no die.
Speaker 6: I love his career, Okay, maybe fair enough, even just
Speaker 6: having that moment against the Falcons. I think where he's like, no,
Speaker 6: I got it, I caught it. I caught it, and
Speaker 6: they're like, no way, dude, they hit the ground. He's like,
Speaker 6: I'm telling you I caught it. Watch and he did.
Speaker 3: Oh man.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know, now, it says a lot about
Speaker 2: who we picked because most of us are team players,
Speaker 2: and we picked Julian Edelman Todd.
Speaker 4: On my birthday. I'm gonna be suppers today tomorrow, maybe
Speaker 4: I have a.
Speaker 8: Different answer today.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm going with those.
Speaker 4: I'm going with life at jail then tuning them out right.
Speaker 2: Let me take a break. John Smoltz will join us.
Speaker 2: He was on the call last night with the Dodgers
Speaker 2: and the podres. We'll get to more phone calls as well.
Speaker 2: And uh, by the way, the gambling podcast that'll be
Speaker 2: later on today, that'll be up at Danpatrick dot com.
Speaker 2: And that'll be Shane Irving Dylan, the graphics guy. Dylan
Speaker 2: and Mario went to the game last night, the Mets
Speaker 2: and Phillies game, and I thought we'd see them on
Speaker 2: kiss cam, but apparently they were seated in different sections there,
Speaker 2: throwing us off a little bit. They actually brought women
Speaker 2: with them. Wow. Yeah, yeah, their girlfriends got them tickets,
Speaker 2: which I said, man, that might be Marrion type of people.
Speaker 2: You know, if your girlfriend's getting your tickets to the playoffs,
Speaker 2: that won't happen when you get married. But right now, and.
Speaker 4: The way that game played at that's a good karma
Speaker 4: right there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: I was exciting to be at.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We're back after this.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk to John Smoltz. He was on the call
Speaker 2: last night, Padres and the Dodgers Game five tomorrow night
Speaker 2: in LA, game time eight Eastern on Fox Steven Portland, Steve,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Born in DP, third time, long time, Portland, Oregon. So
Speaker 9: my wife's asking me to call in every time Seen
Speaker 9: O'Connor has a birthday, because like him, same month, same day,
Speaker 9: same year, seven twenty four to seventy eight. But every
Speaker 9: time I either forget or I just can't get in.
Speaker 9: So say, in honor of Fritty Fritzie birthday, same month,
Speaker 9: same day, some beer, we're giving a shout out to
Speaker 9: seeing them.
Speaker 2: My wife don now.
Speaker 9: Onto the business in honor of Chris Bermant coming on
Speaker 9: and all the years in ESPN. Dan, you've talked at
Speaker 9: length over the years about your time at ESPN and
Speaker 9: going the transition from ESPN to going out on your own,
Speaker 9: the attic days, having a beer at the pizza shop
Speaker 9: there in La that day and regretting, wondering if you're
Speaker 9: going to regret.
Speaker 10: What you did.
Speaker 9: But as I was explaining to Tyler and with Bill
Speaker 9: Belichick and Tom Brady and these guys like what do
Speaker 9: you do when you leave?
Speaker 10: And these people lot, You have never really.
Speaker 9: Went into any kind of detail about how you were
Speaker 9: feeling emotionally mentally from you were the star, the faith
Speaker 9: of the of the network at that point, the peak,
Speaker 9: you were at your peak and with at ESPN, in
Speaker 9: my opinion, can you talk to us about how you
Speaker 9: felt emotionally going just what you were going dealing with
Speaker 9: at that time.
Speaker 2: Let me get to John Smoltz and then I'll try
Speaker 2: to bring back those emotions or memories there kind of
Speaker 2: a blur, painful, don't want to get emotional here in
Speaker 2: the final hour. It's Todd's day. It's Todd's birthday, John Smoltz,
Speaker 2: who shares a birthday with me on the call for
Speaker 2: the Padres Dodgers. Now we got game five in LA
Speaker 2: coming up tomorrow. Explain the Dodgers pitching strategy last night, John,
Speaker 2: because I likened it to a jigsaw puzzle or Rubik's cube,
Speaker 2: where you Dave Roberts had to make all of that
Speaker 2: work and somehow did last night.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're limited, right, They put a roster together. They're
Speaker 5: supposed to have a great pitching staff and that's been
Speaker 5: beat up. So they got to the postseason best record,
Speaker 5: all the pressure in the world on them, and then
Speaker 5: they really don't have a game for starters. So I've
Speaker 5: always said in a vacuum, you could do it one time.
Speaker 5: It's hard to do it all the time. You just
Speaker 5: need one guy to mess up. But give him credit.
Speaker 5: Every single guy came in. The score was lopsided. He's
Speaker 5: stick with. He stood with those guys even though he
Speaker 5: could have gone a different direction. And I think part
Speaker 5: of it is he didn't want the Padres to get
Speaker 5: any momentum, any rally, anything going, so that Game five
Speaker 5: is a totally different atmosphere now, even though everyone knows
Speaker 5: the Padres offense can explode. So he did a great
Speaker 5: job last night and sold the bullpen.
Speaker 2: Normally it used to come down to starting pitching. It
Speaker 2: does it anymore? What do you think Game five comes
Speaker 2: down to?
Speaker 5: Well, Game five and elimination, winner take all always comes
Speaker 5: down to the shortest leash for starters. So whatever starter
Speaker 5: goes longer, you think puts that team in a better
Speaker 5: chance to be successful. Look, the Mets have had great
Speaker 5: starting pitching. They've moved on. You've got teams that are
Speaker 5: trying to Like the Tigers, they're at the I mean
Speaker 5: every game is a miracle game. They've been playing momentum baseball.
Speaker 5: We've seen this new playoff format put a lot of
Speaker 5: stress on the teams that have had rest. Their offense
Speaker 5: doesn't get going. There's a lot of things in the mix.
Speaker 5: And for the Dodgers, really Game five comes down to
Speaker 5: can they do the things and the top of their lineup,
Speaker 5: whether Freddie's in there or not, to match what the
Speaker 5: Padres have done in the first three innings. It's been
Speaker 5: a simple formula. Padres explode early, they win, and last
Speaker 5: night they didn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that atmosphere I thought in San Diego,
Speaker 2: I mean that that was Can you maybe compare another
Speaker 2: atmosphere that you had in San Diego these last two games,
Speaker 2: you know, Philadelphia, Philly, You're right, they were.
Speaker 5: This is a stand all the time. It doesn't matter
Speaker 5: what the score is. Something's a rally. Two zero counts
Speaker 5: a rally. And I've said in the postseason, the teams
Speaker 5: that handle the cleanest innings and don't allow some hiccup,
Speaker 5: you know what rallies were starting with two out walks.
Speaker 5: They were starting with a walk. So I love it.
Speaker 5: I think San Diego's atmosphere la will be raucous. I mean,
Speaker 5: these two teams don't like each other, it's well known,
Speaker 5: and they're now kind of sparking this rivalry because they're
Speaker 5: both good. I can make the argument that the San
Speaker 5: Diego Padres have the deepest roster and maybe the best
Speaker 5: roster in the postseason. But now they're going to have
Speaker 5: to find a way on the road to get by
Speaker 5: the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: A better chance of making mistake to Bonds and not
Speaker 2: paying for it or Otani.
Speaker 5: You know, Bonds was in an unbelievable world of his own.
Speaker 5: But what Otani's done now is early Bonds would steal
Speaker 5: a base and make you pay for walking around him.
Speaker 5: Otani will steal a couple bases, right, He'll just absolutely
Speaker 5: beat you on the path. So they've shown and he's
Speaker 5: shown that he is vulnerable to certain pitches. But here's
Speaker 5: the problem in the game today. There's a few pitchers
Speaker 5: that can go three times to that spot. We've got
Speaker 5: such a max effort and great stuff, but every hitter
Speaker 5: today is looking for that one mistake and when Otani
Speaker 5: gets it, you may not get it back.
Speaker 2: And you bring up a great point. I brought this
Speaker 2: up earlier. I sound like the guy who says, get
Speaker 2: off my lawn. If I was developing pitching or looking
Speaker 2: for pitching, I want to see somebody who can, you know,
Speaker 2: give me legitimate velocity but has location and movement. If
Speaker 2: you give me that, I'll let you throw a hundred.
Speaker 2: I don't don't care. But if you give me location
Speaker 2: in movement, and that's what I don't understand that. And
Speaker 2: we're not going to be developing these pictures because everybody's
Speaker 2: throwing a hundred, you got to throw a hundred, and yes,
Speaker 2: I mean that's to me. God, I would love to
Speaker 2: have those kind of pictures.
Speaker 5: Well, rule changes will come again to effectively change that
Speaker 5: again when you think about the way the game is operated. Look,
Speaker 5: I understand it's harder to hit today than ever before
Speaker 5: because velocity is at an all time high.
Speaker 2: But no rule changes are you talking about.
Speaker 5: They'll be pitching rule changes that will change the philosophy
Speaker 5: to get you more towards what you're saying, Because I
Speaker 5: if I'm having every picture break down and we're having
Speaker 5: this epidemic of pitching injuries. Organizational philosophy is not going
Speaker 5: to change unless there's a rule change, and that could
Speaker 5: be anywhere from you know, tie in your starting pitcher
Speaker 5: to the DH to roster manipulations that don't happen. You
Speaker 5: can only have so many relievers on a team. There's
Speaker 5: ways to affect the game, no different than two years ago.
Speaker 5: But your point is well taken, because if I don't
Speaker 5: have to teach a guy command and I just have
Speaker 5: to teach him how to throw that nasty stuff in
Speaker 5: that box, then the hitting styles are going to stay
Speaker 5: the same. Swing for the fences hope to connect, and
Speaker 5: you're only going to find a few elite pitchers that
Speaker 5: can throw a ball in the area that gets a
Speaker 5: pitcher out, that gets a hitter out. A well placed
Speaker 5: pitch still gets a hitter out. But it is the
Speaker 5: kind of philosophy that we're dealing with, and right now
Speaker 5: it takes more pitchers in a game to do that.
Speaker 2: Talking to John Smoltz, John will be on the call
Speaker 2: of Friday Night that'll be back in LA. Game time
Speaker 2: is eight eastern on Fox. Are the Mets a good team,
Speaker 2: great team or team of destiny?
Speaker 5: I think they're a team of destiny. You could make
Speaker 5: a statement that this good team, which is on a
Speaker 5: great run, believes in itself that after two months of
Speaker 5: the season it looked horrible and they stood the course,
Speaker 5: and I really got to give them credit that leadership
Speaker 5: inside and management took a took a heart look and
Speaker 5: saying what direction are we going? Many people maybe complained
Speaker 5: that they didn't go out and make a whole lot
Speaker 5: of moves before spring training was over, but what they
Speaker 5: did is establish themselves in the pitching rotation.
Speaker 8: Again.
Speaker 5: It comes down to a healthy starting rotation that now
Speaker 5: looks pretty good and a team that has gone through
Speaker 5: the gamut. You cannot have that roadmap and predicted they
Speaker 5: would be in this spot going to one sixty three. Well,
Speaker 5: in essence an extra day after the season playing a doubleheader,
Speaker 5: So I give them a lot of credit. That town's
Speaker 5: going to be on fire. They've been waiting a long time.
Speaker 5: And you've got really two teams kind of mirroring each
Speaker 5: other between the podres build it up, tear it down,
Speaker 5: Matt spend all kinds of you know, tear it down.
Speaker 5: And now look where both of those clubs are back
Speaker 5: with a chance to go to the World Series.
Speaker 2: I know that they're not musty TV, but the Tigers
Speaker 2: are a fun and I know you grew up a
Speaker 2: Tiger fan. It's fun to see and scooball might be
Speaker 2: the best pitcher in base If they get to a
Speaker 2: game five, then he'll be pitching. But just to see that,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's weird because you're like, oh, the starting
Speaker 2: pitcher's still in the game. John's it just does. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's that good that he's breaking the mold of what
Speaker 2: we have with starting pitchers now.
Speaker 5: He is that good. He pitches off his fastball, he's
Speaker 5: a big, strong down the hill, the good mechanics. It's
Speaker 5: refreshing and it's one of the things that they said
Speaker 5: they were not going to do is trade him. They
Speaker 5: traded other pieces. This was not supposed to be their year.
Speaker 5: I know. I've done a few events in Lancing, Michigan,
Speaker 5: and they asked me how far are the Tigers. Away
Speaker 5: said they're not that far and they're like, really, this
Speaker 5: was two months ago. I said, I think they're building
Speaker 5: something special over there.
Speaker 6: A J.
Speaker 5: Hins done a nice job. He's got them to believe
Speaker 5: and it seems like they're just burning the candle at
Speaker 5: both ends, trying to get just one win, just one win,
Speaker 5: and they're finding ways to do it. You might not
Speaker 5: have some wholesale names yet, but you're starting to develop
Speaker 5: some of that. And their bullpen's been great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Aaron Judge is probably
Speaker 2: going to the Hall of Fame when it's all said
Speaker 2: and done. But he is not a good postseason performer.
Speaker 2: He's batting two hundred, you know, he's striking out every
Speaker 2: third time in postseason.
Speaker 8: How does that?
Speaker 2: I know there's certain guys who just do well in
Speaker 2: the postseason, maybe not the regular season, but how do
Speaker 2: you explain Aaron Judge struggling?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say the attention and the over magnified
Speaker 5: approach to Aaron Judge is going to be hyper focused
Speaker 5: in the postseason when every starter or every pitcher gets
Speaker 5: the scorecard, the lineup card, and they circle Aaron Judge.
Speaker 5: They don't pitch him that way in the regular season.
Speaker 5: It's too long of a season. He's facing too many
Speaker 5: different pitchers. He's a great hitter that when he gets unlocked,
Speaker 5: I think will be able to handle what's coming at him.
Speaker 5: Because there's so much expected of them. The narratives in
Speaker 5: postseason are like the worst things in the world if
Speaker 5: you're not able to put them aside and do your thing.
Speaker 5: And what I would say, not for everybody, And we
Speaker 5: know heart beats are different. If you're mechanically sound at
Speaker 5: the postseason, the game's easier. If you're struggling, you're off,
Speaker 5: you're pressing, the game's harder. You're asked ten times more
Speaker 5: about your mini slump than you would be in the
Speaker 5: regular season.
Speaker 2: I have you what five career home runs, three career
Speaker 2: stolen bases.
Speaker 5: Regular seasons and I got I got a couple.
Speaker 2: In the postseasons. Okay, of course, could you see yourself
Speaker 2: as an o'ton? Were you Otani? They just wouldn't let
Speaker 2: you be Otani when you were when you were playing
Speaker 2: for the Braves.
Speaker 5: You know, that's a great question, Dan, and it's probably
Speaker 5: trending towards yes. But I don't want to spend a
Speaker 5: lot of time on the fact that I was not
Speaker 5: given that opportunity. In all seriousness, I hope this opens
Speaker 5: the door for more open mindness towards players who are talented.
Speaker 5: Maybe not like him, but I rooted for him to
Speaker 5: stay healthy on the mount because people have yet to
Speaker 5: see how great this guy is on the mount, and
Speaker 5: hopefully he can show it over the next five years
Speaker 5: and stay healthy and avoid the injury.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, Thanks for joining us. Safe
Speaker 2: travels my pleasure.
Speaker 5: Yep, same to you.
Speaker 2: It's John Smolt, Hall of Famer, World Series champ on
Speaker 2: the cy Young and of course the lead analyst for Fox.
Speaker 2: They don't have their Game five coming up at Dodger
Speaker 2: Stadium onnth Friday night. Tony in South Carolina. High tone,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?
Speaker 9: Hell?
Speaker 10: Dan?
Speaker 11: How you doing?
Speaker 2: Great? Tone?
Speaker 10: Dan? I just wanted to call in. This is my
Speaker 10: first time ever calling in six foot one two twenty five.
Speaker 10: I was excited this morning when I found out it
Speaker 10: was Fritzy's birthday ten ten. I've just come through a
Speaker 10: two year battle with advanced prostate cancer and I took
Speaker 10: my last test yesterday and I got the results this morning,
Speaker 10: and I am one hundred say cancer phrase.
Speaker 1: That's so big.
Speaker 2: That's more more important than Fritzy's birthday.
Speaker 10: Hell yeah, but it's a good Hey, can't can't baby,
Speaker 10: Let's go.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Tony, congratulation.
Speaker 3: Good laugh, very healthy.
Speaker 2: I know I like that. Ten tane, Let's good news
Speaker 2: there good news? Ring my bell?
Speaker 3: Who's singing that? Ring my bell?
Speaker 4: Blondie?
Speaker 8: Right? No, no, no, call me? Was Blondie?
Speaker 3: Ring my bell?
Speaker 2: Sounds like? Was it? Patti LaBelle? Anita ward ah Anit Award.
Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy nine. Ring my bellned Award not familiar.
Speaker 2: I know the song, but it always reminds when I
Speaker 2: hear somebody's name is Anita. It always brings to mind
Speaker 2: a woman I met and her last name was Hooker
Speaker 2: and her first name was Anita, and she even said,
Speaker 2: get your joke out of the way. I'm like, don't
Speaker 2: need to because she said need a hooker, and I
Speaker 2: didn't like it. Caught me off guard because I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: that's forward, and then I realized that that was her
Speaker 2: name or she got married, and so she said, you know,
Speaker 2: get your joke out, and I go, I don't have one.
Speaker 2: I need a hooker. Colin in Iowa, Hey Colin, what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 12: A DP Third Time, Long Time had a question for
Speaker 12: the room and a bet for Seaton. A question for
Speaker 12: the room is would you rather watch a Jets game
Speaker 12: with Woody Johnson a Panthers game with David Tepper or
Speaker 12: a Broncos game with Fritzy. And then my bet with
Speaker 12: Seaton is Iowa State going to West Virginia this weekend.
Speaker 9: I'd bet a.
Speaker 12: Bunch of Iowa smoke house meet up against the opportunity
Speaker 12: to attend to meet Friday. Thanks and all.
Speaker 2: Listen, Well, Satan doesn't have the authority to allow you
Speaker 2: to come in for a meet Friday. Correct, Yeah, so
Speaker 2: we can't have that beat. Do you want to watch
Speaker 2: a Bronco game with Todd We've done that, David Tepper
Speaker 2: or Woody Johnson. Well, chances are if you're watching a
Speaker 2: game with the Jets owner Woody Johnson, there's maybe some
Speaker 2: other famous people there with David Tepper. Don't spill a drink,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Woody Johnson. I think I'd I'd rather
Speaker 2: watch with Woody Johnson than David Tepper or a Bronco
Speaker 2: game with Fritzi. I mean, Fritzy is exactly how you
Speaker 2: think he would be. It's every call, every play, every moment.
Speaker 2: It's it's your wife videotaped you watch in the game.
Speaker 2: We watched the Super Bowl with you for a little while.
Speaker 4: Left in the first quarters, three nothing relaxed.
Speaker 8: No, no, but it's holding on Garrett balls again.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you go up to your room when we
Speaker 2: were watching the Super Bowl? They were winning, weren't they.
Speaker 4: I know, I just needed to be by myself. It's
Speaker 4: probably best for you guys to enjoy the second half
Speaker 4: of that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we would have enjoyed the first half without
Speaker 2: you too, Yes, Paul, I would.
Speaker 3: Have thought though with Todd. If you're winning, you stay
Speaker 3: in the same seat, you stay in the same place.
Speaker 3: Like a little superstition. You leave where you're sitting while
Speaker 3: your team's winning the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: That is a good point. I am very superstitious, but
Speaker 4: in that situation, I'm like, you know, I'm just getting nuts.
Speaker 4: Let you guys do your thing and I'll run around
Speaker 4: and be crazy in my room.
Speaker 2: If you're watching on Peacock. We are going to give
Speaker 2: Todd his birthday cake. We have to take it out
Speaker 2: of the freezer. It is a a ice cream cake.
Speaker 4: Got a cake to the face?
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 2: By the way, we do have a bed a wedding
Speaker 2: cake to the face. If Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift
Speaker 2: get engaged and Troy Aikman. I thought said that they
Speaker 2: were engaged, and then he had to backtrack on that.
Speaker 2: But then he was on barstool, and then I think
Speaker 2: he did say, hey, he was told they might be engaged.
Speaker 2: So if they get engaged, you get a wedding cake
Speaker 2: to the face, Todd, I do, all right, take a break.
Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls after this.
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Speaker 2: Raven's running back Derrick Henry gonna join us on the
Speaker 2: program tomorrow. He's the fifth player to reach ten thousand
Speaker 2: yards rushing and score one hundred touchdowns in their first
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five games. He enjoy. He joins
Speaker 2: a list that includes Jim Brown, Emmitt Smith, Ladanian, Tomlinson,
Speaker 2: and Adrian Peterson.
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Speaker 2: write the headline today for tomorrow with the Seahawks and
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. So I'll give you guys a
Speaker 2: little bit of time. Let me get to James in Virginia,
Speaker 2: and then we will write tomorrow's headline. Today.
Speaker 11: Hey James, Wow, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 11: Happy Thursday, DT, Dannette, Salute the Commander, Rumbling, bumbling, stumbling,
Speaker 11: he could go all the way. Man, what a great interviewer, Boomer.
Speaker 11: This my twenty first year at UPS. I couldn't have
Speaker 11: madgin him forty five years for the Swami back back
Speaker 11: back back, dawn Man. Speaking of baseball, how about the
Speaker 11: amazing on a miracle run the miracle Mets man out town, Tyler.
Speaker 11: I've been a player for the kids. The Nauset Tides
Speaker 11: used to be the farm team that used to come
Speaker 11: down and play preseason before the season started. It was
Speaker 11: just a great experience. And I would be remiss if
Speaker 11: I didn't take the time out to shout out my
Speaker 11: guy Frinch do O double D. Happy birthday, brother, it's
Speaker 11: your birthday. Yeah, for your birthday fifty five years man.
Speaker 11: Congradulations man, you guys have a wonderful day to loot
Speaker 11: the commander.
Speaker 2: All right, Salute the commanders. By the way, I get
Speaker 2: Todd a cake. Now, I don't decide what the cake
Speaker 2: looks like. It's an ice cream cake. And then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden he goes, why is it shaped like
Speaker 2: a whale?
Speaker 4: A fair question.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: There was a shot.
Speaker 2: It was a short notice and it was Anthony the
Speaker 2: intern who went out and got it.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 4: Now I always calling him out. Just like that, I
Speaker 4: could afford to drop several LB's. I didn't think there'd
Speaker 4: be a whale shaped cake.
Speaker 2: I have no idea if that's what the cake was.
Speaker 2: That was already made short notice, and then they did
Speaker 2: put Happy Birthday Todd, and they only had one D
Speaker 2: on them.
Speaker 4: But you the well is a famous Carvel cake, so
Speaker 4: I can possibly wink at that. But there's gotta be
Speaker 4: other cakes.
Speaker 2: I don't think that there was a subliminal message being sent.
Speaker 8: That would be kind of mean on my birthday.
Speaker 2: It would be and I will discipline him. I will
Speaker 2: scold Anthony the inter. It would be accurate and fair
Speaker 2: to get for me to tell him I'm going to
Speaker 2: fire him. No, definitely, okay, because if you say fire
Speaker 2: Anthony the intern, then I'll go do that.
Speaker 4: It could be a little more sensitive next time, and
Speaker 4: then I'll just leave.
Speaker 7: It at down.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, Paul quickly fritzy, what animal would be more
Speaker 3: fitting with your physique?
Speaker 4: Like a bullfrog?
Speaker 2: It is not wrong.
Speaker 8: I got a big upper part and.
Speaker 4: Little skinny legs to bounce around him.
Speaker 7: He is not far off with a bullfrog.
Speaker 3: That's actually really good.
Speaker 4: Like throat and the mouth issues like I do skip
Speaker 4: leg day and it's just very thin legs and a
Speaker 4: big upper part.
Speaker 7: We have the let Todd clear his throat? Uh? Do
Speaker 7: you remember that from way back in the day. Yeah,
Speaker 7: let Todd clear his Do we have that?
Speaker 2: Barman? And he says, looking okay, right tomorrow's headline Today, tom.
Speaker 8: I'm going with Brock in a hard place, fox squawk.
Speaker 2: Okay, seek no counter.
Speaker 7: I'm going with forty whiners whoa yeah, okay, okay, take
Speaker 7: your losses like Marvin.
Speaker 8: G No thanks, Oh, niners dominated oay.
Speaker 3: Okay, Paulie, that was pretty ugly niners no show against
Speaker 3: the seahawk.
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 2: Did you find the the clip there Marvin with Todd?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Oh, been a nice payoff. It would let us a right,
Speaker 2: They're stay in sports history. Paul the billiard.
Speaker 3: Ball was patented by John Wesley Hyatt. And I'm gonna
Speaker 3: yield the rest of my time for this clip, Marvin.
Speaker 3: I heard, I hear him play all right.
Speaker 8: Let's go with.
Speaker 3: Uh. Joe Namas and nineteen seventy seven played his last
Speaker 3: National Football League game with the Rams. Rams is correct.
Speaker 3: Back to you.
Speaker 2: Nineteen thirty six On this day, John Brungart, John Brungart
Speaker 2: first person to dot the I in script Ohio for
Speaker 2: Ohio State marching band. At halftime, John Brungart, run guard.
Speaker 2: Let me see anything else here?
Speaker 7: Umm?
Speaker 2: Oh? Nineteen twenty, Elmer Smith hits the first grand slamming
Speaker 2: World Series history, and then his teammate Bill Wam's Nass
Speaker 2: makes the first unassisted triple playing worlds Area again, Bill
Speaker 2: wams Ass, Is that the character from Succession? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: Bill wams Nas.
Speaker 3: I'm asking you for that.
Speaker 8: March.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's not about me, Paul, It's about Todd. It's
Speaker 2: his birthday. It's his birthday. Thank you, Todd Blacklitch, who's
Speaker 2: doing the Oregon Ohio State game tomorrow. Derrick Henry said
Speaker 2: to join us as well. What did you learn today, Tod?
Speaker 4: There's already been some talk about a twenty four team
Speaker 4: college football playoff Watt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's down the road, It's coming. Seaton, Chris Berman
Speaker 2: still the King. E Marvin.
Speaker 8: You want pictures with movement, I do.
Speaker 2: Give me movement and location over velocity.
Speaker 3: Paul Todd is built like a bullfrog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought it was Jeremiah Todd. What did
Speaker 2: I learn today?
Speaker 4: The new norm using starting relievers and pizzing a game
Speaker 4: together like the Dodgers did last night in San Diego.
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