WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Common Thread Defensively 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:09.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:10.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:20.480 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:21.040 Yes? 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:22.880 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:23.680 Absolutely? 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:25.680 Ready for a break? 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.040 Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:32.280 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:38.920 on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, and 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:40.120 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.560 It is Thursday, October third, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.239 episode number forty one. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:51.000 The Breakwall, Live from that WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.160 presented by LG. LG is the world's number one O 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.920 led TV brand for eleven years in counting seey at 0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:01.200 LG dot com Ford slash o led Evo. Today we're 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.880 going to talk a little bit about the Pittsburgh defense 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.480 versus the Cowboys offense. Yesterday we did break down the 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.280 opposite the Cowboys offense, I mean Cowboys defense versus Pittsburgh's offense. 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.280 A lot of interesting things on this defense. This is 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.360 a very very good defense. So Brian will break down 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.759 what the Cowboys will be facing this weekend and we'll 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.200 get to some player evaluations, some offensive players that we 0:01:23.240 --> 0:01:26.520 have not talked about as much, and focus in a 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.840 little bit on some of those wide receivers that you're 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.440 probably going to see a little bit more of this 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.600 weekend with Brandon Cooks being out. But we're going to 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.080 start right there with injuries. There are two guys on 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.520 the injury report that I think are most significantly worth 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.360 talking about. Kayln Carson was limited in practice yesterday with 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.839 a shoulder injury. He missed last week's game. The hope 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:47.640 is that they can get him back this week, and 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:52.160 then of course Brandon Cooks out presumably at least one week, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:55.720 maybe a few weeks with the knee injury. Let's talk 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.000 first about Kayln Carson. Brian, what are we hearing there 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.840 as far as his availability for the weekend. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.160 Yeah, they were last week they they knew they weren't 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:04.720 going to have him, and then this week it was 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.160 going to be about, okay, try and get him uh 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.960 onto the practice field in any way possible. And he's 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.160 dealing with a shoulder bruise, so it was just a 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.160 matter of with a bruise that's blood in the area there, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.320 you know, and getting that down and he's swelling any 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.120 any things you know, you need to range emotion to 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:25.840 be able to play corner. You know, you've got to 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:27.720 be able to use your you gotta be able to 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.919 extend and be able to to be able to defend balls. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:31.400 And things like that. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.200 Tackle tackle on the perimeter would be a really good 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.880 thing to be able to do. 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:35.600 Uh. 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.360 But yeah, So they're going to work through him with 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:42.040 him this week and see where they're they're at. So 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:46.040 as we uh, we had yesterday's practice. Today, we'll see 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.000 what the designation is today. But the the intent is 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.760 to try and get him ready to go on on 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.240 Sunday night in Pittsburgh. But it was looking like it 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.160 was a you know, it's kind of a wait and 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.120 see thing. But they're at least encouraged these out on 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.280 the practice field again. 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.960 A right, I have a question. Maybe it's me, but 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:08.120 I feel like it's you. 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:11.600 Okay. 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.840 One, the practice report looked a lot better than I 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.960 thought in my mind or what I was expecting, but 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.320 looking at it, and it just popped into my head. 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.119 And since we started having this conversation of how well 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:30.120 are they practicing and all that isn't me And I 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.400 was trying to go to the previous three weeks, But 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:36.440 I feel like I never really see other teams resting 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:41.400 their veterans like having and I are rest day. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.400 Well, let me clarify one thing real quick. 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.480 I don't know that you necessarily have to designate rest 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.600 for a veteran. So other teams may list the guys 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:55.520 limited or out or on their practice report and they 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.040 were doing it just to rest them. I think the 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.240 Cowboys that seems to be more of a how we 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.160 sing where they didn't rest more than anything else. But 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.360 there may be other cause there are I know I 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.360 look at other injury reports every single week, and we're 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.320 gonna talk a little about some of the injuries that 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.360 that the Pittsburgh Steelers have and and some of those guys, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.040 you know, they start off on DMP or they start 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.640 off unlimited, and as the league goes on, it's fully 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.560 and and I think some of that is probably resting guys, 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.800 but again we don't know that for sure. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.279 And it's just curious because they just the way it's presented, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:27.840 it looks different. Like for example, if there's somebody uh 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.920 dealing with something, it will say what the injury is, 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:35.080 calf growing ankle, and then it'll be listed US limited 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.800 but every time we see the practice report for these guys, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:40.400 and it's just a question that just popped into my 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.320 head as I look at this, I'm like, hum, I 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.200 never see them ceoposing teams listen it this way, and 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.880 it makes me wonder, are they actually dealing with an injury? 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.680 Which I'm sure everyone's banged up at this point, but 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.279 it just brought it brought into my head, like what 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.760 does that look like for other teams around the league? 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.000 And are we resting these guys so much? Not to 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.000 say that I don't want trouble, but I get it 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.200 you have to rest and all that. I'm just curious 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.679 as to what it all makes actually entails. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.960 You know, that's an interesting point you make because you 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:18.039 wonder on Wednesday what kind of installation goes in on 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:22.640 a practice? You know, is Thursday really your most important day? 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.240 Is Friday your most important day? 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:25.760 You know? 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.680 For installation? Are you just kind of basically going through 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:34.640 things on Wednesday? Like are guys sitting out major parts 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:35.360 of installation? 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:35.960 Right? 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.760 You know, That's where that's where you get a little 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.440 That's where the questions I would have, you know, if 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:44.440 I was in the building across the way, you know, 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.679 and we have this rest plan. My my concern would 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.800 be if we were resting guys on major days of 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:56.240 installation or is you know, like to me, it really 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.480 kind of important short origin goal line, you know, especially 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.679 the goal line, the red zone stuff. We're resting guys 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.160 on the red zone. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.039 Area, then to me, that seems like a problem. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.359 You know, maybe we need to evaluate because if you 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.920 remember one year, they're playing a game in Philadelphia and 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.560 Amari Cooper wasn't on the field when they were down 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.159 in the red zone and Mike McCarthy's they were asking 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.279 why wasn't Amari in the game, and well, he hasn't. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.839 He didn't practice those plays, he didn't need. You know, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.680 we were better, We had a better chance with the 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:32.520 guys that had practiced the plays. I'm thinking, damn, this 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.920 is one of your best players and he's not on 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.040 the field for a crucial part of the game trying 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.400 to get the ball into the end zone. So it's 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.120 a it's an interesting point you make, and I. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:45.760 Think it comes into my head just. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:51.800 I think I think Dallas listed lists their designations differently 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:52.599 than a lot of teams. 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.160 I just I think there's teams that rest their guys. Yeah, yeah, 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:57.359 I do. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.840 But I wonder, I wonder if you could, if they 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:04.120 could walk me through, if they could walk me through 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.680 what would be a Wednesday? Is a Wednesday practice just 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:13.040 normal down in distance? Is it first? Intends its second 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.240 and sevens? Is it you know, third? And you know, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:19.000 I mean if it's if it's red zone, short yardage 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:23.120 stuff like that, I want my guys practicing. If it's 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.080 normal down in distant stuff, maybe I'm a little bit 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:30.680 more open to Okay, my guys are not practicing this 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.080 in this period today. 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.280 Yeah, And I think that the biggest thing is just 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:37.440 does it help? Like I don't mind him doing whatever 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.480 plan he wants to do for resting guys and making 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:42.000 sure guys have what they need. 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:43.800 The question is does it help? 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.840 Does it see does it end up in resulting in 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:50.080 them playing better and the team ultimately having team success? 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.760 And that's the part where you know, you obviously don't 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.800 really know, but that's what I would be, you know. 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:59.320 Mostly unfortunately last year at the end of the season, 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.520 you know, and if you talk to people, and I'm 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.800 still friends with a lot of the medical staff guys, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.800 the one thing they appreciate about Mike McCarthy is his 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.920 understanding of his players or his team's health. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:13.280 He gets that. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.280 They're like, hey, listen, we've worked with coaches and this 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.440 staff a lot of these guys, Jim Mauer and those 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.880 guys can go all the way back to Britt Brown. 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:22.160 Those guys can go all the way back. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.920 To Jimmy Johnson in the early nineties. They've been here 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.040 a long time, so they understand. They've been through coaches. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.240 They've been through Jimmy, They've been through you know, they've 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:35.880 been through Chan Gaily's. They've been through Dave Campo's. They've 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.960 been through Bill Parcells, Wade Phillips, They've been through all, you. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:39.760 Know them all. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.360 I'm trying, but you know, it seems like Jimmy was 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.520 a really good selection back in the day. I don't 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:47.960 know why we all of a sudden we said he 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:52.600 wasn't any good. But I'm just kidding. But the thing 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.720 is is, you go through the coaches, you know, these 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.280 these these these trainers are like, hey, you know, there's 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:02.280 there's a lot of questions. You know, I remember Britt 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.600 Brown like yelling at Parcels, Parcels yelling at him about 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.720 you know, like you caddle these guys, you do this, 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.920 you do that, and but it's like where where'd you 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.320 get your training degree from? You know, And it was 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.640 a lot of back and forth. And some of these 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.080 coaches are very very you know, they're very like, you know, hey, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.160 practice play, Jason Garrett very much a if they practice, 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:22.880 they're going to. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.959 Play, you know, and everybody else they don't and they're not. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.840 But this is where I'm concerned. I'm sorry being so 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.199 long winded. That's just what I do. But the thing 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:34.640 about it is at the end of the year, unfortunately, 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.160 Tank Lawrence in an interview. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.520 Said that the team was tired. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.280 And I don't know if his words were the accurate 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.360 or if he he was looking for something, but it 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.319 described a team as he as he said, was tired. 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.760 Then I had a chance or one oh five three 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.319 the fan when we were at the Super Bowl in 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.880 Las Vegas, had a chance to interview, you know, interview 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:07.520 Cook's interview Gilmore and one of my colleagues asked, what's 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.480 this thing about being tired? And you could see the 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:14.080 look on gilmour in Cook's face like what do you 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.520 mean tired? You know, they were like kind of eyes rolling, 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.040 kind of thing. And I think maybe Tank used the 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.800 wrong phrase. But the one thing that this coach will 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.320 do this is my point, is he makes sure that 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:27.400 his team is as. 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.359 Fresh as possible. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.680 And now whether that's good enough or bad and I 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.480 don't know, because they've been really fresh and going into 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.360 playoffs and. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.640 The thing completely fall apart on him. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.720 So I admire him for knowing that. But I think 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:47.800 the designation that he is, he's trying to like protect 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.679 his guys. But also I would have the question if 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.880 I was in the front office, are they missing anything 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.520 on a Wednesday practice that's hurting us in a game? 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:58.839 To Ambar's point, all right. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:10:59.240 Let's move on. 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.760 Let's talk about the Pittsburgh injury report. There were some 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.960 interesting interesting names on this report that did not practice yesterday. 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.360 Really at two primary positions. You had a linebacker both 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.240 Alex high Smith who was out with a groin injury 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.280 and Nick Herbig who was also out with an ankle injury. 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.520 And then you had two running backs Cordero Patterson who 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.040 we talked about yesterday out with an ankle injury, and 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.120 Jalen Warren we didn't talk as much about. But he's 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:25.720 going out of their offense absolutely with an eat knee injury. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.400 Is there anything that that you're hearing on that, Brian? 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:29.480 What you about those guys? 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.960 Yeah, high Smith's not gonna play and that's and that 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:33.320 is going to be a huge loss. 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:36.040 So if you're going to if you're going to trade 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:36.600 one of. 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.640 Your best defensive players, you're one of your you know, 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.160 you've got a couple of defensive players, you're you're losing 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.080 when you start to talk about tank and then Parsons 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.800 Alex high Smith opposite J. T. J. Watt is a 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:56.040 is a really good combination. Herbig is the backup to Highsmith. 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.000 So when high Smith goes out, Herbig comes in. Well, 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.080 here's a guy that can also rush the passer. So 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:06.480 now they're in a situation where no high Smith and 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.040 we'll see what happens with Herbik here. 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:09.559 With the ankle. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.880 But those would be big, big losses for the Steelers 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:17.840 defense because the one thing that they will do is 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.880 they will get after you. They're they're a four man 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.079 rush get after you defense, you know, and they really 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.439 don't rely on the blitz all that much. They really 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.560 you know Turtle Austin the DC there, he wants to 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.199 come get you with four. And it's funny. I look 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.520 this up, Derek. They're one of the there. They're a 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:38.120 weird team. 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:38.480 They think. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.120 There's five teams in the league that when they bring 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.040 more than four, their pressure numbers go down. And the 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:48.040 Steelers are one of them. They want they want to 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:51.400 rush you. When they bring that fifth rusher, they're numbers, 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.880 their pressure numbers go down. There's four other teams that 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:55.680 are like that. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:56.120 In the league. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.200 So it's kind of funny. You think, well, bring pressure, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.680 they can't block us all. Well, they bring pressure with 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.600 the Steelers, you block them all and then you know, 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.080 and they play a ton of zone defense, and that's 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.160 been a problem for them. They play a ton of 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.240 the zone defense, and they give up. They give up 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:17.480 plays that way. The coverage plays off, there's passes underneath, 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.440 there's run after catch, there's there's things. And when we 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.120 get into this that you can I feel like you 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.160 can attack these guys in a couple of different ways. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.720 Yeah, and real quick on those on those running backs 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.200 as well. Yeah, to be honest with you, Najie Harris, 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.960 he is their starter. He's the guy I'm least concerned 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.199 about because I don't know if he's as dynamic as 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:34.760 those other guys. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.120 They got a cowboy situation going on there. Yeah, I 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.880 don't know if they're playing their best guy. To me, 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.480 Patterson really isn't now Warren is. I think Warren's a 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:47.040 good player, but he's been banged up. Patterson is not 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:50.960 a running back. Patterson is a football player, football player 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.640 exactly it. You know, they try to run a counter 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.360 the other day, and backs will take a counter step. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.160 You know, they have this really nifty way of stabbing 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.199 their foot and then and everybody goes one way and 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.599 then they cut it back the other way. Patterson was 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:05.559 kind of like a bourbon street drunk. He was kind 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.640 of stumbling and then all of a sudden got his 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.600 balance and then they hand him the ball into seven 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.600 yard game yep, Because you know he's trying to do 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:17.280 the running back counter but he can't do the counterstep. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.440 You know, if he was on Dancing with Stars, he'd 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:20.840 be they'd boot him off kind. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:21.120 Of a thing. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.880 But yeah, he I mean, they've got Warren and Patterson 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.200 are really their best backs. Harris is and they're a 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.640 volume run team. We talked about that they are a 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.760 volume run team that plays a ton of thirteen personnel 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.280 that really doesn't take very good advantage of that. 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.400 We're gonna take our first break, but I'll throw this 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.400 out before we go, because I think it's gonna color 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.280 a lot of the conversation that we're gonna have in 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.480 this second segment about the Pittsburgh defense versus the Dallas offense. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.520 I was looking at the weather report, and I know 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:48.840 amber bows rise. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.920 But no, this is the one thing. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.040 This is the one piece of weather that actually changes 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:56.520 NFL games. There are thunderstorms that are reportedly going to 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.280 be happening throughout the entire night. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.600 So we met whether you may have weather delays what 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.720 happened in Denver team, but you. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:05.520 Also have to think about it if it's a wet night, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.360 how much does that affect the passing game? Again, with 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.440 two teams that don't have the greatest running games, but 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.600 you know Pittsburgh likes to run it right and Dallas, 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.280 who doesn't really run it and hasn't shown that it's 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.520 really good at running it. If you get into one 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.480 of those kind of messy games, I think that's going 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:23.400 to change the complexion of what happens in this game. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.880 I think it's worth talking about. 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Yeah, 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.600 see for yourself at LG dot com slash oled evo. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.200 Welcome back, second segment of the Break, Laughing Mats WBC 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:37.560 Morty Studios at the start, what'd you say? 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:38.159 What are you about to say? 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.920 No, I was laughing at your story about mister Rooney 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.000 just going through the line. You know, the Rooney family. 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:45.919 I worked with Dan Junior, who was was an NFL 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:51.240 Europe and he's the son of and Dan. Dan's scout 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.040 for the Steelers. He doesn't want His wife's a doctor 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.560 that live in Chapel Hill. You would never know that 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.320 his family owns this Pittsburgh Steelers. He's like the most 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.280 just play nice guy, you know, I mean, just hey, 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.080 I just want to fit in, don't want to cause 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.040 a problem. But like your family owns one of the 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.960 most historic franchises and professional sports. But there's some of 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:12.680 the nicest people. 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:13.080 Real quick. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:14.520 If I could tell a story you talk about the 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.320 Rooney just mister Rooney going through the line like everybody else, 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.920 not cutting in or anything. Willington Mirror of the Giants, 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.960 held an elevator for me one time. Yeah, he ever 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.680 told you the story about I was at the was 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.800 at the old Giant Stadium and like I was coming, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.280 I was flying around the corner, you know, and I 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.119 was trying to I heard the elevator was closing, and 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.359 I'm like, well, hold the elevator and all of a sudden, 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:39.120 an arm like with a navy blazer and cuff links, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:41.960 probably some very expensive company. Yeah, and the arm comes 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.400 out the elevator and I turned the corner. It opens 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.600 and it was Willington Mirror, the owner of the Giants. 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:52.679 He like stuck his arm out of the elevator and 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.320 it and and I and I stopped, I mean in 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.600 my tracks, and I go, mister Mirror, I'm really sorry. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.520 He goes, get on, Sun, come on, We're all going 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:02.760 the same spot. And I'm like, well, thank you. He 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.640 saw my cowboy, my my logo, like, oh here checking 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:07.040 this out. 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:07.280 Huh. 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.320 I'm like, oh, yes, sir, just do a little scouty. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:13.040 He goes, all right, well enjoy and he got off 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.400 in his air and I'm like, but yeah, here, hey, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.679 hold that elevator and is like the owner of the 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.639 Giants like sticks his arm out to you know, like 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:21.720 sacrifice for me. 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.800 And I was like, oh gosh, what I just do. 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:24.160 Yeah. 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.159 The story I was telling was in the break was 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:31.680 we were in Pittsburgh for Rudy Families, mister Rooney the father. Yeah, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:34.399 and I think he's pasted since yes, but he was 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:36.000 I was in the press box, and we were going 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:38.439 through the line getting food and uh and then you 0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.080 just see this elderly gentleman standing in line, and by 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.160 the way, you would never guess he was the owner 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.360 of the Steelers. Like he was just you know, kind 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.400 of just there and people would walk by and say, 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.639 how you doing, mister Rooney, and how you going. But 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.200 he just he got in line like everybody else, didn't 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:53.760 jump the line, like they just got. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.679 In line, walked through, got his food and spoke to everyone. 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.760 They asked it for his press box ticket. Now you know, 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.640 they usually ask it if you're a we're your ticket, 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:01.080 your president. 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:04.680 Yeah you had a credential, shouts back when security wasn't 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.200 what it is. Yeah, now you got eyes they're checking 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:08.280 your eyes and everything else. 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:08.880 But that's crazy. 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:10.399 But no, it was just it was kind of it 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.560 just stood out to me that he was so much 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:13.960 just one of Again. 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.360 There's a great history between these two franchises. I mean, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.560 trust me growing up in the seventies as a kid 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.960 and the heartbreak that I had with these being a 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.679 Cowboys fan and the Steelers, I mean there their roster 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.240 was just as good as your rust and it was 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.320 just a battle and the super Bowls were just so 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.479 tough and heartbreak and just it was. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:34.000 It was tough. 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.240 But there's a there's a great history that the Rooney 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.040 family that was one of the pillars of the National 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:41.120 Football League. They really are the Maras, the Rooneys, these 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:44.200 old families that own these teams were They're incredible. 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.080 The great part of why we all have jobs is 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:47.760 because of. 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:53.040 Iways here about the history of Oh my god, is crazy. 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:57.639 As a current fan or you know, like in today's 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.920 nowadays world, it doesn't feel like it really you don't. 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.280 It was like you don't meet the Steelers of their. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:06.399 Last super Bowl was against them, you know, and you 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.840 played a lot of Super Bowls before that with them. 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.320 And seriously, they they had they had Hall of Fame players. 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:13.440 I mean, they're rostered. 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.040 You had Hall of Fame players like you'll see on 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:19.800 the sidelines of the stadium. Just look at their ring 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.760 of Honor that they have and the next legit it 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:24.960 is like you're going, my gosh. 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:29.119 You go through other stadiums and you'll you'll look up, yeah, exactly, 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:30.200 the Steelers they got. 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:32.000 I mean when I was a kid and I grew 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:33.000 up in Houston. 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:34.760 You saw it with Houston when I grew up in 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:36.840 the Chuck Nolan. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.320 Yeah, there were two of my favorite players, like as 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.560 a kid that I really looked up to mean Joe 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:46.280 Green Frankel Harris Steelers. I wasn't a Steeler fan, but 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.440 those two players just always stuck out to me, and 0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:50.720 they had that caliber of player. 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:52.840 They just had a bunch of really really. 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:55.080 Good players back in the day and and they've had 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:56.800 a you know, over the years. And it's one of 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.800 the things interesting things to me, probably more than any 0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:03.320 other franchise I can think of. There is a culture 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:05.719 that seems to just be like when you say the 0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:10.760 Steeler Steeler football, it's been the same thing. Play tough defense, right, 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.880 very physical defense, run the ball well like this has 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.440 been like going back to the seventies. This has been 0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.199 their mantra and it's what they continue to do today. 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.000 And it's just it's interesting. 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.440 To me how they can. I mean, they've only had 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:23.520 with three coaches in the. 0:23:23.600 --> 0:23:25.480 His three coaches since nineteen sixty nine. 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.200 Yeah, so it's like they don't change coaches, but they 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.919 keep the same culture pretty much. And that's probably how 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:32.520 you do it. You don't change the coaches and you 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.200 can just have this one culture that kind of keeps going, 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:37.640 you know, generate every generation after generation. 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.960 Every time you want to throw dirt on Mike Tomlin 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:43.640 like he's lost his quarterbacks, he's done. He's he finds 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:44.760 a way to get the team to eight. 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:47.760 When sits up in the top, he is. 0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.320 Just always The last time they made it to the 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:54.400 Super Bowl, Uh, it was against they lost the Packers. 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.440 I think in your backyard here, I think that it. 0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.880 Was just twenty ten. Yeah, I think it was after 0:23:58.920 --> 0:23:59.920 two thousand and nine season. 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:03.400 Yes, yeah, was it ten or was it eleven? Because 0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:09.320 it's somewhere in that run somewhere that tenn super Bowl. 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.440 Yeah, yeah, they they had been they'd won the Super 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.400 Bowl before and they went in Detroit, they beat the 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.280 Seattle and then but then but your last super Bowl 0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:19.920 was against them, and that was the one you won 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:22.040 in a super Bowl thirty That's what. 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:23.040 That one was. All right. 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.760 So let's talk a little bit about this this Pittsburgh defense. 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:28.639 Let's put it really let's put it all in the 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:30.960 context too, of like they're they're going to have to 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.440 play in some elements, So how is that going to 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:33.800 affect what they're doing? 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:35.360 What they want to do and what the Cowboys want 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:35.560 to do. 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.120 Yeah, this is when you start to talk about there's 0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.520 a there's a common thread we're going to talk about here. 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:42.640 Uh, when you know this. 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:46.439 Is the third AFC nor team you've played, it's a 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:47.119 common thread. 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.160 Defensive line. That's what it's the whether. 0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:54.359 It's Cleveland Baltimore Steelers, it's about your defensive line. You 0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:59.000 can't function in that division unless you have good guys 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:02.560 up front. And these guys might not have the name guys, 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:05.639 they do have the TJ. Watt that that is the 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.840 name that you're going to have to deal with. He's 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:12.560 predominantly going to play over Terrence Steele. That's where he 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.199 lines up. He lines up extremely wide, and he's going 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:17.960 to rush. He's going to try and take you wide, 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.480 and he's going to try and take you inside. Teams 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.520 have found ways to chip him, you know, to keep him, 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.080 you know, kind of make him distracted. Teams have run 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:30.280 the ball at these defensive ends for the Steelers, and 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.440 I think high Smith was a little bit better run 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:36.960 defender now him out of the game, but her Big 0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:42.840 and Watt they're linear guys, They're thinner guys, and they're 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.280 built to rush the passer and you get bodies out 0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.119 on them. In numbers people have done this where they've 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.240 tossed the ball that direction and just got bodies and 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.240 tried to mash them and had a little bit success 0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.320 doing that. So you know, when they can rush the passer, 0:25:58.960 --> 0:26:01.679 they got an advantage. When they have to play the run, 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.840 it's a little bit of a problem for them to 0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.480 have to kind of defend the run that way, but 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.119 what they make up for it is inside you have 0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:13.320 the nose tackle with Keanu Benton is a is a 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.960 load to deal with inside. He's not your three hundred 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:20.040 and fifty pound guy, but he's super active number five 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.240 ninety five. He can he kind of beats up your center, 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:27.439 he beats up your guard. Cameron Hayward, he's going to 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.879 predominantly line up over Tyler Smith. And so when you 0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:35.760 start to talk about Cam Hayward, he can get pressure 0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.159 from the inside. So you got pressure from the edges, 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:42.760 pressure from the middle. But the way that he his 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.320 way he lines up, he's going to be against one 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:48.080 of your better when and you look at you look 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.000 at the metrics on Hayward is good at defensive tackle pressure. 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.120 Tyler Smith is one of the best in the league 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:58.480 when it comes to not allowing tackle pressure. So that's 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.360 a good matchup, that's a good poss ability. How things 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:02.919 are going to be played on the outside are going 0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:04.600 to be the key, as they always are. You know, 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:09.159 how do you be able to handle what you know? 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.840 I think that Patrick Queen, who they got from the 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:16.240 Ravens is played in the games I've seen. He looks 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.920 like a guesser right now. It might not be maybe 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.959 he needed at the Ravens. He kind of had guys 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:24.440 around him that could kind of help him with what 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.200 was going on scheme wise. But when these guys give 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.960 up a big play, an explosive play, it's a gamble 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:33.880 or a guess is what happens. And when I say gamble, 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:36.359 that's on the outside. We'll get to these cornerbacks here 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.600 in a second. But Patrick Queen, there's some times in 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:42.159 the running game, especially with the Chargers game, where they 0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:43.720 were able to kind of bend the ball back and 0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:47.960 they took advantage of how aggressive. But sometimes Patrick Queen 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:52.160 will jump gaps. Peyton Wilson is a rookie linebacker. Loved 0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:54.600 him everybody in the Draft show. He's from North Carolina 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:58.000 extremely banged up, doesn't have an ACL but is a 0:27:58.119 --> 0:28:00.720 tough player, and the Steelers took him in the third 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.640 round and he's a very active guy as far as 0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.439 making tackles and things like that. Right now, he's playing 0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:10.320 better than what Queen. You'll see another one. You'll see 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.119 number fifty Roberts in there as well. They kind of 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.560 try when they try and kind of rotate their guys 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:20.560 in the inside linebacker spot of it. But Queen is 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:22.399 a guy that people have taken advantage of in the 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.199 running game, and they've taken advantage of a little bit 0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.280 in the coverage aspect of putting him in coverage, he's 0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:33.520 had some problems with that in the secondary. Joey Porter Junior, 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.639 they stole him in the second round in the twenty 0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:38.440 twenty three draft. He's one of the best corners. Last 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:41.240 year he played a lot more tight window coverage. I mean, 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:41.680 you look at it. 0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:42.200 I went back. 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.760 I'm like, man, he looks like he's he struggled a 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.480 little bit, but they playing a lot more zone coverage. 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.560 And when he plays off, I don't think he's as 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:52.440 good a player When he's on you. Then there's the 0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.120 tight window throws like last year it is fifty percent 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.560 tight window throws. This year he's down. He's down, you know, 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.520 well down tight one like again. I think a lot 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.000 of it has to do with the zone coverage that 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:08.720 they're playing here, him and then Dante Jackson number twenty six. 0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.600 They've struggled when that zone. You see routes break in front, 0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.040 you see routes down the field, they have to rally 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.680 to tackle. They haven't played a lot of man coverage 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.240 that way. And I'll be interested to see with Dallas's situation, 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.600 do they allow Dallas to have free access and routes, 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:30.520 especially with no Cooks involved. Now in this last game. 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:38.080 In this last game, Porter and Jackson split, it was 0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.520 fifty to fifty on the sides they played. I was curious, like, hey, 0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:44.680 in college sometimes they play what we call a boundary corner, 0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.480 which is into the sidelines, and then they have a 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.440 field corner, which plays the whole field. So I really 0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.040 couldn't get a gauge of why. But you will see 0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:56.920 Jackson and Porter flip sides, and I don't think it's 0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.400 I don't think it's a coverage thing. I think it's 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.680 just they that's what they do. So in some games 0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.200 they'll play really fifty to fifty split and in other 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.080 games you'll see them play more Porter to one side 0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.040 and Jackson to the other. They must have felt like 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.520 against the Chargers there was something that they that they 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.000 were on or the excuse me, the the one of 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.320 the Chargers. It was the uh, the Colts they went 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.120 fifty to fifty. The Chargers they played a little bit 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.520 more station like the Porter stayed on one side and 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.080 then Jackson was on the other. But they they have 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.960 the capability of playing both sides. You know, with Dallas down, 0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:38.560 you know, down a receiver, we'll see they might just 0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.240 determine that, Hey, you know, we got to take Lamb 0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.600 out of this game, and if anybody else beats us, 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.800 then then so be it. But they they will, they 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.960 will flip sides on Amika Fitzpatrick. 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.400 The safety is. 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:54.240 Always around the ball. I mean he is always around 0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:59.440 the ball. Deshaun Elliott. Now, they've had some problems in 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:03.760 their second arry with communication because they're given up. They've 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.800 given up some plays and especially down in the red zone. 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:08.880 It happened in the Colts game the other day. I 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.640 was watching them, was confused because Patrick Queen was like 0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:13.200 yelling at Porter. 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:14.520 Because of spacing. 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.480 You see them learn like you know, they throw the 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:19.720 ball inside it Joe Flackel, Boom, it's a touchdown right there. 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:21.760 And then all of a sudden, you see, you know, 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.360 Queen's like yelling at Porter, and Porter's kind of like, 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:25.880 what you know, you got that? 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:26.520 I got you know. 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.760 So we'll see, let's see if this if the communication 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.800 problems carry into this game. But you know it's going 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.400 to be about if you're going to have to throw 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.320 the ball, it's going to be have to be blocking 0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:39.240 t J. 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:40.040 Watt. 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:41.280 We're looking at it. 0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.600 I mean, they don't allow a lot of points other 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.040 than the Colts game, which was twenty seven seventeen nothing 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:48.640 before they knew. 0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:50.160 By the way, they are second in the league and 0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.600 points allowed, only allowing thirteen points per game. And the 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.000 Indie India is the only team that's really been able 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:57.080 to get their offense going. 0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.440 Really, yeah, they really they did a great job. 0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.600 Atlanta was awful in week one, and then they played 0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.840 a rookie quarterback in week two, you know, but they 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.960 did a really nice job against Justin Herbert and against 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:09.960 the Chargers. 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.560 They limited what they can do. 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.920 But the Chargers did make a couple of plays that 0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:18.120 kind of made me think, like, okay, Dallas, what you 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:20.520 got to do with these guys is they will what 0:32:20.600 --> 0:32:24.160 I call bump coverage, and they if you bring motion. 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.200 And this is the great mystery all of a sudden, 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.960 but if you bring motion and you make them bump 0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.320 the coverage, you could set it up where you could 0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:37.560 put some of their weaker cover guys on your better players. 0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.920 You know, you could kind of set it up, but 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.240 you gotta be willing to make them bump the coverage. 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.440 Which means you got to use motion to do it. 0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:48.120 Yeah, because the Chargers were able to do that and 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.400 it caused it caused them a little problems. It was 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.200 some pretty creative stuff that they were able to bump. 0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:57.640 And then they got the safety on a receiver and 0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:59.440 that was a bad matchup for them. 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:02.040 So there's things you could capable do. 0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:05.320 This isn't the ninety the eighty five Bears of the 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:06.840 two thousand Ravens defense. 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:07.520 I mean, they've got. 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:11.080 Good players, You've played some you've played some good defenses already, 0:33:11.640 --> 0:33:13.840 you know, and been able to handle things. But you 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.400 just got to make sure you don't let Watt wreck 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:17.280 this game for you. 0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.120 All right, let's take our final break, Let's come back. 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:21.800 Let's talk about the wide receiver position. 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I have 0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.160 this question for you, as you look at the fact 0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:21.840 that Brandon Cooks will be out, which player would you 0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:24.799 think is more important that the Cowboys need to try 0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.280 to get involved in the absence of Brandon Cooks, Jalen Tolbert, 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:30.360 Jalen Brooks or Cavante Turpin. 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.320 See with Jalen tolver I really like him, I do, 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.160 and I think he's done a really good job. But 0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:43.239 what it makes me wonder I'm with being let's say 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:47.879 a number two and having more attention drawn his way, 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:52.440 is he gonna be able to perform as good or 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:53.760 make as many plays? 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.520 So I don't know. 0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.680 And my answer that I give you it's not gonna 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.920 matter because they're not gonna they won't do it, like, 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:06.560 for example, cavan To Turping. I still think he's a 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.600 very good weapon Brooks. We've seen him how good he 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.560 can be. He's made a lot of plays when given 0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:18.200 the opportunity, even at practices, he's always shined. I think 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:21.040 he can be very very good too as well, and 0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.400 I would love to see him be more involved. 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.840 But I don't know. 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.960 I see the possibility of all three of them being 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:30.279 good for the offense, but. 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.520 Is he gonna click? Are they gonna actually execute it 0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:34.960 very well? I don't know. 0:37:35.640 --> 0:37:36.520 If Weather's poor. 0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:39.399 To me, getting Turpin involved makes a lot of sense 0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:40.879 because if they're gonna play a lot of his own 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:42.759 coverage and it's gonna be wet, put a guy on 0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.839 the move and make them if they're gonna play stationary 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.040 guys and not really move, just hit a guy in 0:37:48.080 --> 0:37:49.080 the move and let him. 0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:54.400 Run, you know. Tolbert Brooks, Floornoy. I'll say this about 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:55.560 about Tolbert. 0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.760 Do you think we'll see a lot of him? Floornoy? 0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:59.239 I would think so. 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:00.320 It's probably gonna be acting. 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.399 Yeah, he's gound be active. But but this is where 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:04.399 this is where, this is where I would I would 0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.719 see Florinoy. If you're interested in running the football, and 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.120 you're doing all your crack tall stuff, and you're putting 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.160 you know, or you're throwing these bubble screens, and you 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.920 have guys that are blocking out there, I'm tired of 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.840 seeing Tolbert out there. Hold I'm saying I'm tired of 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.520 seeing Tolbert get knocked on the ground. You know, I'm 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:22.839 tired of. He's not a good blocker out there. He's 0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.520 not a good blocker in space efforts. Fine, his technique 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.719 is poor. The one thing with Flornaway, you got a 0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:32.080 big guy, big body guy. This would be the audition 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:36.239 that I would keep to think about. Okay, is this 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:38.440 is this a guy that I want to keep on 0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.600 every week that can help me, you know, can catch balls, 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.120 can also block in those tough running game situations, but 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.520 also play some special teams. If I'm Flornay, I'm taking 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.840 these next couple of weeks and trying my best to 0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.239 be on the forty eight every week, you know, and 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.480 maybe he could show up better as a blocker than 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.759 what we've seen from from uh, you know from from 0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:04.600 because we have it. We've seen holding calls, we've seen penalties, you. 0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:05.319 Know we haven't. 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:09.359 Yeah, he's made catches, but make catches, be able to block. 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.040 But that's on the coaches though, too, you know, that's 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:12.680 on the coaches. 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:15.239 I'll say this, Brandon Cooks, and not to say that 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.640 the Cowboys utilize it all the time, but the dimension 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.759 that he adds to an offensive speed and the one 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.920 guy on this list that I think has that kind 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.520 of speed, is Cavante Turpin. I don't think the Cowboys 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:28.840 take advantage of the speed that they have on the 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:29.759 offensive side of the ball. 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:32.720 But what I'm saying because even with Cooks healthy, right. 0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:35.040 Yeah, so we've seen that and they don't they don't. 0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.080 I mean, they primarily kind of have him run out 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.000 and do you know curls hooks, you know, that's basically 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:41.560 his route. 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.280 Tree Pittsburgh has a similar offense, run of the sticks 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:45.080 and curl Yeah. 0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:48.040 And I'm thinking, like, I think this is a game, 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:49.880 and I'm assuming that you'll be able to you know, 0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:51.240 these are professional players. 0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:52.879 Even with rain, they should be able to throw the ball. 0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.359 I think there'll be some opportunities for Cavante Turpin if 0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:59.880 they're willing to use him, getting upfield and trying to 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:01.879 to take some shots. I just don't know if they'll 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.560 use it. But I do think that can give you 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.440 He can give you that kind of game that you 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.439 should have been getting from Brandon Cooks before whatever reason 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:10.680 just don't consistently get it. 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:11.120 Yeah. 0:40:11.840 --> 0:40:16.120 Well, Hunter Lipke, I mean, he's another guy that he's 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.600 shown to be able to catch them. 0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:20.200 Maybe maybe in a wet weather game, too. Hunder Lipke 0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.359 running the football not a not a bad option there. 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.719 I mean, now you know when people say, well he 0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.719 needs to hold on the ball, well, that was one time. 0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.040 I think Hunter Lipkey has shown you he could play 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:33.759 with balance, He's got vision, he's tough. Yeah, if it 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:37.360 turns into okay, we're fighting for four and five yards 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:39.840 of carry here. You know, Hunter Lipke would not be 0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:42.040 a bad option. Or throwing him the ball is not 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.560 a bad option. He's not going to make a mistake 0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:47.680 that way. He's going to make plays for you. Every 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.279 time he makes a play, the play after seems to 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.759 be even a better play. Somebody makes a touchdown. You know, 0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:55.920 we saw Ceedee Lamb he had the fourth down run. 0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.560 What happened the very next play they had the past 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.719 to to lamp touchdown against the Giants. I mean, he's 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.160 the kind of guy that keeps the offense going that way. 0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:08.799 I heard something on the radio this morning on one 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.560 O five three the Fan. It was on Sean and 0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.520 RJ Show, and they mentioned that the Cowboys were I 0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:16.719 think they said second right now in the league in 0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.719 streak a number of consecutive games without a one hundred 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.080 yard rusher and I want to say. The number was 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.960 like I want to say, but the next closest team 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.960 was the Broncos. They were leading the league. I think 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.799 it's like seventeen. And they asked ask an interesting question. 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.560 I'll ask you, guys, if the Cowboys are going to 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.200 break this streak this season, which of those, which of 0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.080 the running backs on this team is more likely to 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:40.360 do it? 0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:43.680 Hmmm? 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:54.600 Just gives him in every way, I mean most likely 0:41:55.520 --> 0:41:56.760 down I guess. 0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:02.120 But uh, I want to see the guy that's still 0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:06.400 sitting there in the practice squad waiting to be called up, 0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:08.280 because that's. 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:11.000 If anything, if anything, just something different. 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:11.959 Some exactly something. 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.320 But it's not it's not about it. 0:42:13.400 --> 0:42:14.960 It might not even work exactly. 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:17.080 But the benefit of the doubt that maybe I'm giving 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.160 them is like, Okay, they see the whole practice. Maybe 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:22.719 they're seeing something that is just like okay, well you 0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:25.040 guys like us, we don't get to see. And there's 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:28.759 a reason why they're making this decision not to put 0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:33.040 him up just yet. But I mean, it's just it's 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:34.560 just I don't see anybody doing it. 0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:38.839 Dalvin Cook, I think it's Dalvin Cook. I think there's 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.440 they're going to get to a point and unfortunately, I 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.920 don't let the thing get to two and five. You know, 0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.440 don't don't don't find. 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:48.759 What you decide to bring him up? 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:50.040 Well, I mean you need to. 0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.279 If if you get to a point there, there's going 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.840 to you're going to need the ability to run the football. 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.520 And you know there's going to come to a time 0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:58.920 too where they're going to look at it and they're 0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.919 going to go, we've I mean, the next two weeks 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.520 are not going to be easy playing playing offense against 0:43:03.520 --> 0:43:06.439 these next two defenses Pittsburgh and I know we've talked 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.560 about Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean it's but to me, if 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.520 somebody's going to break dabt'll makes a lot of sense. 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.800 Hunter Lipkey would be the next guy. If you volume, 0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:17.640 you carry just you know, I'd love to see a 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.680 game where Dallas is ahead and they just turned the 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:23.080 Hunter Lipkey in a four minute offense and it turned 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.040 into deck just like they did against the Giants. First down, 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:29.200 pass for four or five yards, Hand the ball to 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.440 Hunter Lipkey for four or five Hand it to him 0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:33.560 again for a first down. Throw the ball again on 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:34.200 first down. 0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.360 You know, play play. Don't play a game. 0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.799 Where you're you're having to run it. But Dallas did 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.040 a good job against the Giants on first down throwing 0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.120 the ball to at least get five or six yards, 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:49.320 so the next play could be a positive run, you know. 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.319 But I'd love to see Hunter Lipke getting a four 0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.640 minute offense on a grass field in Pittsburgh and just 0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.320 try and wear them down at the end of a 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:58.680 game and kill this thing off. 0:43:58.760 --> 0:43:59.880 That would be glorious. 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:03.880 And if anything, I mean bringing Cook up, and I 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.080 get it it. It gets tricky with the whole roster 0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:09.640 spot situation and how many times you can bring him up. 0:44:09.719 --> 0:44:15.600 And but but the point is maybe that also elevates 0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.040 everybody else's game and puts them in their toes like, 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:22.520 oh crap, okay, let me let me do something better here. 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.239 You know. It creates a more competition within their own 0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:30.080 running back group. But they just have to do something 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:33.600 different and you have someone different. They're just waiting to 0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:34.239 be called up. 0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:36.840 All right, that's a wrap. We'll be back on tomorrow. 0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:38.680 We'll wrap this thing up before you get you guys 0:44:38.719 --> 0:44:41.360 ready for the Sunday game. Hopefully it does happen on Sunday. 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:41.960 We'll see. 0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:42.400 We're going to. 0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.800 Brian Roddison Navigarci. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.799 Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.400 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:55.399 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.