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Speaker 1: on with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris, and

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Speaker 6: It is Thursday, October third, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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Speaker 6: episode number forty one. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 6: going to talk a little bit about the Pittsburgh defense

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Speaker 6: versus the Cowboys offense. Yesterday we did break down the

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Speaker 6: opposite the Cowboys offense, I mean Cowboys defense versus Pittsburgh's offense.

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Speaker 6: A lot of interesting things on this defense. This is

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Speaker 6: a very very good defense. So Brian will break down

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Speaker 6: what the Cowboys will be facing this weekend and we'll

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Speaker 6: get to some player evaluations, some offensive players that we

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Speaker 6: have not talked about as much, and focus in a

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Speaker 6: little bit on some of those wide receivers that you're

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Speaker 6: probably going to see a little bit more of this

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Speaker 6: weekend with Brandon Cooks being out. But we're going to

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Speaker 6: start right there with injuries. There are two guys on

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Speaker 6: the injury report that I think are most significantly worth

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Speaker 6: talking about. Kayln Carson was limited in practice yesterday with

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Speaker 6: a shoulder injury. He missed last week's game. The hope

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Speaker 6: is that they can get him back this week, and

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Speaker 6: then of course Brandon Cooks out presumably at least one week,

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Speaker 6: maybe a few weeks with the knee injury. Let's talk

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Speaker 6: first about Kayln Carson. Brian, what are we hearing there

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Speaker 6: as far as his availability for the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they were last week they they knew they weren't

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Speaker 3: going to be about, okay, try and get him uh

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Speaker 3: dealing with a shoulder bruise, so it was just a

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Speaker 3: matter of with a bruise that's blood in the area there,

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Speaker 3: you know, and getting that down and he's swelling any

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Speaker 3: any things you know, you need to range emotion to

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Speaker 3: be able to play corner. You know, you've got to

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Speaker 3: be able to use your you gotta be able to

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Speaker 2: And things like that.

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Speaker 3: Tackle tackle on the perimeter would be a really good

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Speaker 3: thing to be able to do.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, So they're going to work through him with

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Speaker 3: as we uh, we had yesterday's practice. Today, we'll see

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Speaker 3: what the designation is today. But the the intent is

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Speaker 5: A right, I have a question. Maybe it's me, but

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Speaker 5: I feel like it's you.

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Speaker 8: Okay.

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Speaker 5: One, the practice report looked a lot better than I

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Speaker 5: And since we started having this conversation of how well

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Speaker 4: Well, let me clarify one thing real quick.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that you necessarily have to designate rest

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Speaker 5: And it's just curious because they just the way it's presented,

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Speaker 5: Which I'm sure everyone's banged up at this point, but

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Speaker 5: And are we resting these guys so much? Not to

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Speaker 5: you have to rest and all that. I'm just curious

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Speaker 3: You know, that's an interesting point you make because you

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Speaker 3: wonder on Wednesday what kind of installation goes in on

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Speaker 3: Is Friday your most important day?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: For installation? Are you just kind of basically going through

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: You know, That's where that's where you get a little

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Speaker 3: That's where the questions I would have, you know, if

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Speaker 3: and we have this rest plan. My my concern would

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Speaker 2: Area, then to me, that seems like a problem.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe we need to evaluate because if you

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Speaker 3: He didn't practice those plays, he didn't need. You know,

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Speaker 8: Think it comes into my head just.

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Speaker 3: I think I think Dallas listed lists their designations differently

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Speaker 2: I just I think there's teams that rest their guys. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: But I wonder, I wonder if you could, if they

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Speaker 3: what would be a Wednesday? Is a Wednesday practice just

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Speaker 3: normal down in distance? Is it first? Intends its second

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that the biggest thing is just

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Speaker 6: does it help? Like I don't mind him doing whatever

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Speaker 4: The question is does it help?

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Speaker 6: Does it see does it end up in resulting in

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Speaker 6: And that's the part where you know, you obviously don't

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Speaker 3: Mostly unfortunately last year at the end of the season,

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Speaker 3: the one thing they appreciate about Mike McCarthy is his

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Speaker 2: He gets that.

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Speaker 3: They're like, hey, listen, we've worked with coaches and this

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Speaker 2: Those guys can go all the way back.

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Speaker 3: To Jimmy Johnson in the early nineties. They've been here

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Speaker 3: They've been through Jimmy, They've been through you know, they've

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Speaker 3: been through Chan Gaily's. They've been through Dave Campo's. They've

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Speaker 3: been through Bill Parcells, Wade Phillips, They've been through all, you.

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Speaker 2: Know them all.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying, but you know, it seems like Jimmy was

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Speaker 2: Play, you know, and everybody else they don't and they're not.

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Speaker 3: But this is where I'm concerned. I'm sorry being so

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Speaker 3: long winded. That's just what I do. But the thing

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if his words were the accurate

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Speaker 3: mean tired? You know, they were like kind of eyes rolling,

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Speaker 3: wrong phrase. But the one thing that this coach will

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Speaker 2: Fresh as possible.

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Speaker 3: And now whether that's good enough or bad and I

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Speaker 3: don't know, because they've been really fresh and going into

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Speaker 2: The thing completely fall apart on him.

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Speaker 3: So I admire him for knowing that. But I think

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Speaker 3: the designation that he is, he's trying to like protect

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and real quick on those on those running backs

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Speaker 6: We're gonna take our first break, but I'll throw this

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Speaker 6: a lot of the conversation that we're gonna have in

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Speaker 4: But no, this is the one thing.

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Speaker 6: Morty Studios at the start, what'd you say?

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Speaker 4: What are you about to say?

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Speaker 3: No, I was laughing at your story about mister Rooney

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Speaker 2: They asked it for his press box ticket. Now you know,

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Speaker 2: they usually ask it if you're a we're your ticket,

441
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Speaker 2: your president.

442
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Speaker 6: Yeah you had a credential, shouts back when security wasn't

443
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 6: what it is. Yeah, now you got eyes they're checking

444
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 6: your eyes and everything else.

445
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:08,880
Speaker 2: But that's crazy.

446
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 6: But no, it was just it was kind of it

447
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 6: just stood out to me that he was so much

448
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 6: just one of Again.

449
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Speaker 3: There's a great history between these two franchises. I mean,

450
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: trust me growing up in the seventies as a kid

451
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 3: and the heartbreak that I had with these being a

452
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 3: Cowboys fan and the Steelers, I mean there their roster

453
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: was just as good as your rust and it was

454
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: just a battle and the super Bowls were just so

455
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 3: tough and heartbreak and just it was.

456
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: It was tough.

457
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 3: But there's a there's a great history that the Rooney

458
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 3: family that was one of the pillars of the National

459
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 3: Football League. They really are the Maras, the Rooneys, these

460
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 3: old families that own these teams were They're incredible.

461
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: The great part of why we all have jobs is

462
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: because of.

463
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Speaker 8: Iways here about the history of Oh my god, is crazy.

464
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Speaker 5: As a current fan or you know, like in today's

465
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 5: nowadays world, it doesn't feel like it really you don't.

466
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 5: It was like you don't meet the Steelers of their.

467
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 3: Last super Bowl was against them, you know, and you

468
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 3: played a lot of Super Bowls before that with them.

469
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Speaker 2: And seriously, they they had they had Hall of Fame players.

470
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're rostered.

471
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Speaker 3: You had Hall of Fame players like you'll see on

472
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Speaker 3: the sidelines of the stadium. Just look at their ring

473
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 3: of Honor that they have and the next legit it

474
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Speaker 3: is like you're going, my gosh.

475
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Speaker 6: You go through other stadiums and you'll you'll look up, yeah, exactly,

476
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 6: the Steelers they got.

477
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Speaker 4: I mean when I was a kid and I grew

478
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Speaker 4: up in Houston.

479
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Speaker 2: You saw it with Houston when I grew up in

480
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Speaker 2: the Chuck Nolan.

481
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there were two of my favorite players, like as

482
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Speaker 6: a kid that I really looked up to mean Joe

483
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 6: Green Frankel Harris Steelers. I wasn't a Steeler fan, but

484
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 6: those two players just always stuck out to me, and

485
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 6: they had that caliber of player.

486
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 4: They just had a bunch of really really.

487
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Speaker 6: Good players back in the day and and they've had

488
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Speaker 6: a you know, over the years. And it's one of

489
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Speaker 6: the things interesting things to me, probably more than any

490
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Speaker 6: other franchise I can think of. There is a culture

491
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 6: that seems to just be like when you say the

492
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 6: Steeler Steeler football, it's been the same thing. Play tough defense, right,

493
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 6: very physical defense, run the ball well like this has

494
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 6: been like going back to the seventies. This has been

495
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 6: their mantra and it's what they continue to do today.

496
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Speaker 6: And it's just it's interesting.

497
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Speaker 4: To me how they can. I mean, they've only had

498
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Speaker 4: with three coaches in the.

499
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: His three coaches since nineteen sixty nine.

500
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's like they don't change coaches, but they

501
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 6: keep the same culture pretty much. And that's probably how

502
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 6: you do it. You don't change the coaches and you

503
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 6: can just have this one culture that kind of keeps going,

504
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 6: you know, generate every generation after generation.

505
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: Every time you want to throw dirt on Mike Tomlin

506
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 3: like he's lost his quarterbacks, he's done. He's he finds

507
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: a way to get the team to eight.

508
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 2: When sits up in the top, he is.

509
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Speaker 3: Just always The last time they made it to the

510
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, Uh, it was against they lost the Packers.

511
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Speaker 2: I think in your backyard here, I think that it.

512
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 4: Was just twenty ten. Yeah, I think it was after

513
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 4: two thousand and nine season.

514
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, was it ten or was it eleven? Because

515
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: it's somewhere in that run somewhere that tenn super Bowl.

516
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they they had been they'd won the Super

517
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: Bowl before and they went in Detroit, they beat the

518
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 3: Seattle and then but then but your last super Bowl

519
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 3: was against them, and that was the one you won

520
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: in a super Bowl thirty That's what.

521
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Speaker 2: That one was. All right.

522
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Speaker 6: So let's talk a little bit about this this Pittsburgh defense.

523
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 6: Let's put it really let's put it all in the

524
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Speaker 6: context too, of like they're they're going to have to

525
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Speaker 6: play in some elements, So how is that going to

526
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 6: affect what they're doing?

527
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 4: What they want to do and what the Cowboys want

528
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Speaker 4: to do.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is when you start to talk about there's

530
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Speaker 3: a there's a common thread we're going to talk about here.

531
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Speaker 2: Uh, when you know this.

532
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Speaker 3: Is the third AFC nor team you've played, it's a

533
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Speaker 3: common thread.

534
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Speaker 2: Defensive line. That's what it's the whether.

535
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: It's Cleveland Baltimore Steelers, it's about your defensive line. You

536
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: can't function in that division unless you have good guys

537
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: up front. And these guys might not have the name guys,

538
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: they do have the TJ. Watt that that is the

539
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 3: name that you're going to have to deal with. He's

540
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: predominantly going to play over Terrence Steele. That's where he

541
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 3: lines up. He lines up extremely wide, and he's going

542
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: to rush. He's going to try and take you wide,

543
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: and he's going to try and take you inside. Teams

544
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: have found ways to chip him, you know, to keep him,

545
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, kind of make him distracted. Teams have run

546
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: the ball at these defensive ends for the Steelers, and

547
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 3: I think high Smith was a little bit better run

548
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: defender now him out of the game, but her Big

549
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: and Watt they're linear guys, They're thinner guys, and they're

550
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: built to rush the passer and you get bodies out

551
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: on them. In numbers people have done this where they've

552
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: tossed the ball that direction and just got bodies and

553
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: tried to mash them and had a little bit success

554
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: doing that. So you know, when they can rush the passer,

555
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: they got an advantage. When they have to play the run,

556
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: it's a little bit of a problem for them to

557
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: have to kind of defend the run that way, but

558
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: what they make up for it is inside you have

559
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: the nose tackle with Keanu Benton is a is a

560
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: load to deal with inside. He's not your three hundred

561
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: and fifty pound guy, but he's super active number five

562
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 3: ninety five. He can he kind of beats up your center,

563
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 3: he beats up your guard. Cameron Hayward, he's going to

564
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: predominantly line up over Tyler Smith. And so when you

565
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: start to talk about Cam Hayward, he can get pressure

566
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 3: from the inside. So you got pressure from the edges,

567
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: pressure from the middle. But the way that he his

568
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: way he lines up, he's going to be against one

569
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: of your better when and you look at you look

570
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: at the metrics on Hayward is good at defensive tackle pressure.

571
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith is one of the best in the league

572
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 3: when it comes to not allowing tackle pressure. So that's

573
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 3: a good matchup, that's a good poss ability. How things

574
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 3: are going to be played on the outside are going

575
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: to be the key, as they always are. You know,

576
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: how do you be able to handle what you know?

577
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: I think that Patrick Queen, who they got from the

578
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: Ravens is played in the games I've seen. He looks

579
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: like a guesser right now. It might not be maybe

580
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 3: he needed at the Ravens. He kind of had guys

581
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 3: around him that could kind of help him with what

582
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: was going on scheme wise. But when these guys give

583
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: up a big play, an explosive play, it's a gamble

584
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 3: or a guess is what happens. And when I say gamble,

585
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: that's on the outside. We'll get to these cornerbacks here

586
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: in a second. But Patrick Queen, there's some times in

587
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: the running game, especially with the Chargers game, where they

588
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 3: were able to kind of bend the ball back and

589
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: they took advantage of how aggressive. But sometimes Patrick Queen

590
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: will jump gaps. Peyton Wilson is a rookie linebacker. Loved

591
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: him everybody in the Draft show. He's from North Carolina

592
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 3: extremely banged up, doesn't have an ACL but is a

593
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: tough player, and the Steelers took him in the third

594
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 3: round and he's a very active guy as far as

595
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: making tackles and things like that. Right now, he's playing

596
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: better than what Queen. You'll see another one. You'll see

597
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 3: number fifty Roberts in there as well. They kind of

598
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: try when they try and kind of rotate their guys

599
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: in the inside linebacker spot of it. But Queen is

600
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: a guy that people have taken advantage of in the

601
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 3: running game, and they've taken advantage of a little bit

602
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 3: in the coverage aspect of putting him in coverage, he's

603
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: had some problems with that in the secondary. Joey Porter Junior,

604
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 3: they stole him in the second round in the twenty

605
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: twenty three draft. He's one of the best corners. Last

606
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: year he played a lot more tight window coverage. I mean,

607
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: you look at it.

608
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: I went back.

609
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, he looks like he's he struggled a

610
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: little bit, but they playing a lot more zone coverage.

611
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: And when he plays off, I don't think he's as

612
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: good a player When he's on you. Then there's the

613
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 3: tight window throws like last year it is fifty percent

614
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 3: tight window throws. This year he's down. He's down, you know,

615
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: well down tight one like again. I think a lot

616
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: of it has to do with the zone coverage that

617
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: they're playing here, him and then Dante Jackson number twenty six.

618
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 3: They've struggled when that zone. You see routes break in front,

619
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: you see routes down the field, they have to rally

620
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: to tackle. They haven't played a lot of man coverage

621
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: that way. And I'll be interested to see with Dallas's situation,

622
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: do they allow Dallas to have free access and routes,

623
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: especially with no Cooks involved. Now in this last game.

624
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: In this last game, Porter and Jackson split, it was

625
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty on the sides they played. I was curious, like, hey,

626
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: in college sometimes they play what we call a boundary corner,

627
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: which is into the sidelines, and then they have a

628
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: field corner, which plays the whole field. So I really

629
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: couldn't get a gauge of why. But you will see

630
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 3: Jackson and Porter flip sides, and I don't think it's

631
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a coverage thing. I think it's

632
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: just they that's what they do. So in some games

633
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: they'll play really fifty to fifty split and in other

634
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 3: games you'll see them play more Porter to one side

635
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: and Jackson to the other. They must have felt like

636
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: against the Chargers there was something that they that they

637
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: were on or the excuse me, the the one of

638
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: the Chargers. It was the uh, the Colts they went

639
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. The Chargers they played a little bit

640
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: more station like the Porter stayed on one side and

641
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: then Jackson was on the other. But they they have

642
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: the capability of playing both sides. You know, with Dallas down,

643
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: you know, down a receiver, we'll see they might just

644
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: determine that, Hey, you know, we got to take Lamb

645
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: out of this game, and if anybody else beats us,

646
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: then then so be it. But they they will, they

647
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: will flip sides on Amika Fitzpatrick.

648
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: The safety is.

649
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: Always around the ball. I mean he is always around

650
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: the ball. Deshaun Elliott. Now, they've had some problems in

651
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: their second arry with communication because they're given up. They've

652
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: given up some plays and especially down in the red zone.

653
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: It happened in the Colts game the other day. I

654
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: was watching them, was confused because Patrick Queen was like

655
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: yelling at Porter.

656
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: Because of spacing.

657
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: You see them learn like you know, they throw the

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Speaker 3: ball inside it Joe Flackel, Boom, it's a touchdown right there.

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, you see, you know,

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Speaker 3: Queen's like yelling at Porter, and Porter's kind of like,

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Speaker 3: what you know, you got that?

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Speaker 2: I got you know.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see, let's see if this if the communication

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Speaker 3: problems carry into this game. But you know it's going

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Speaker 3: to be about if you're going to have to throw

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Speaker 2: Watt.

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Speaker 8: We're looking at it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they don't allow a lot of points other

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Speaker 5: than the Colts game, which was twenty seven seventeen nothing

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Speaker 5: before they knew.

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Speaker 6: By the way, they are second in the league and

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Speaker 6: points allowed, only allowing thirteen points per game. And the

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Speaker 6: Indie India is the only team that's really been able

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Speaker 6: to get their offense going.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, they really they did a great job.

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Speaker 3: Atlanta was awful in week one, and then they played

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Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback in week two, you know, but they

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Speaker 3: did a really nice job against Justin Herbert and against

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Speaker 3: the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: They limited what they can do.

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Speaker 3: But the Chargers did make a couple of plays that

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Speaker 3: kind of made me think, like, okay, Dallas, what you

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Speaker 3: got to do with these guys is they will what

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Speaker 3: I call bump coverage, and they if you bring motion.

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Speaker 3: And this is the great mystery all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: but if you bring motion and you make them bump

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Speaker 3: the coverage, you could set it up where you could

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Speaker 3: put some of their weaker cover guys on your better players.

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Speaker 3: You know, you could kind of set it up, but

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Speaker 3: you gotta be willing to make them bump the coverage.

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Speaker 2: Which means you got to use motion to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because the Chargers were able to do that and

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Speaker 3: it caused it caused them a little problems. It was

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Speaker 3: some pretty creative stuff that they were able to bump.

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Speaker 3: And then they got the safety on a receiver and

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Speaker 3: that was a bad matchup for them.

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Speaker 2: So there's things you could capable do.

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Speaker 3: This isn't the ninety the eighty five Bears of the

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Speaker 2: I mean, they've got.

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Speaker 3: Good players, You've played some you've played some good defenses already,

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Speaker 3: you know, and been able to handle things. But you

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Speaker 3: this game for you.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's take our final break, Let's come back.

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about the wide receiver position. Let's talk about

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Speaker 6: Jalen Tober, Jalen Brooks and Cavante Turpin. The question will

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Speaker 6: Final segment of the break Life in SWBC Mortgage studios

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Speaker 6: at the Star Got I guess about eight minutes here,

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Speaker 6: So let's talk about the wide receiver position. I have

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Speaker 6: this question for you, as you look at the fact

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Speaker 6: that Brandon Cooks will be out, which player would you

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Speaker 6: think is more important that the Cowboys need to try

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Speaker 6: to get involved in the absence of Brandon Cooks, Jalen Tolbert,

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Speaker 6: Jalen Brooks or Cavante Turpin.

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Speaker 5: See with Jalen tolver I really like him, I do,

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Speaker 5: and I think he's done a really good job. But

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Speaker 5: what it makes me wonder I'm with being let's say

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Speaker 5: a number two and having more attention drawn his way,

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Speaker 5: is he gonna be able to perform as good or

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Speaker 5: make as many plays?

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Speaker 8: So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: And my answer that I give you it's not gonna

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Speaker 5: matter because they're not gonna they won't do it, like,

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Speaker 5: for example, cavan To Turping. I still think he's a

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Speaker 5: very good weapon Brooks. We've seen him how good he

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Speaker 5: can be. He's made a lot of plays when given

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Speaker 5: the opportunity, even at practices, he's always shined. I think

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Speaker 5: he can be very very good too as well, and

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Speaker 5: I would love to see him be more involved.

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Speaker 8: But I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I see the possibility of all three of them being

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Speaker 5: good for the offense, but.

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Speaker 8: Is he gonna click? Are they gonna actually execute it

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Speaker 8: very well? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: If Weather's poor.

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Speaker 3: To me, getting Turpin involved makes a lot of sense

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Speaker 3: because if they're gonna play a lot of his own

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Speaker 3: coverage and it's gonna be wet, put a guy on

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Speaker 3: the move and make them if they're gonna play stationary

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Speaker 3: guys and not really move, just hit a guy in

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Speaker 3: the move and let him.

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Speaker 2: Run, you know. Tolbert Brooks, Floornoy. I'll say this about

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Speaker 2: about Tolbert.

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Speaker 8: Do you think we'll see a lot of him? Floornoy?

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Speaker 2: I would think so.

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Speaker 4: It's probably gonna be acting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gound be active. But but this is where

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Speaker 3: this is where, this is where I would I would

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Speaker 3: see Florinoy. If you're interested in running the football, and

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Speaker 3: you're doing all your crack tall stuff, and you're putting

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Speaker 3: you know, or you're throwing these bubble screens, and you

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Speaker 3: have guys that are blocking out there, I'm tired of

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Speaker 3: seeing Tolbert out there. Hold I'm saying I'm tired of

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Speaker 3: seeing Tolbert get knocked on the ground. You know, I'm

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Speaker 3: tired of. He's not a good blocker out there. He's

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Speaker 3: not a good blocker in space efforts. Fine, his technique

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Speaker 3: is poor. The one thing with Flornaway, you got a

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Speaker 3: big guy, big body guy. This would be the audition

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Speaker 3: that I would keep to think about. Okay, is this

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Speaker 3: is this a guy that I want to keep on

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Speaker 3: every week that can help me, you know, can catch balls,

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Speaker 3: can also block in those tough running game situations, but

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Speaker 3: also play some special teams. If I'm Flornay, I'm taking

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Speaker 3: these next couple of weeks and trying my best to

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Speaker 3: be on the forty eight every week, you know, and

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Speaker 3: maybe he could show up better as a blocker than

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Speaker 3: what we've seen from from uh, you know from from

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Speaker 3: because we have it. We've seen holding calls, we've seen penalties, you.

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Speaker 2: Know we haven't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's made catches, but make catches, be able to block.

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Speaker 3: But that's on the coaches though, too, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: on the coaches.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, Brandon Cooks, and not to say that

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Speaker 6: the Cowboys utilize it all the time, but the dimension

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Speaker 6: that he adds to an offensive speed and the one

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Speaker 6: guy on this list that I think has that kind

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Speaker 6: of speed, is Cavante Turpin. I don't think the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: take advantage of the speed that they have on the

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Speaker 6: offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 8: But what I'm saying because even with Cooks healthy, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we've seen that and they don't they don't.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they primarily kind of have him run out

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Speaker 6: and do you know curls hooks, you know, that's basically

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Speaker 6: his route.

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Speaker 3: Tree Pittsburgh has a similar offense, run of the sticks

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Speaker 3: and curl Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, like, I think this is a game,

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Speaker 6: and I'm assuming that you'll be able to you know,

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Speaker 6: these are professional players.

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Speaker 4: Even with rain, they should be able to throw the ball.

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Speaker 6: I think there'll be some opportunities for Cavante Turpin if

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Speaker 6: they're willing to use him, getting upfield and trying to

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Speaker 6: to take some shots. I just don't know if they'll

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Speaker 6: use it. But I do think that can give you

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Speaker 6: He can give you that kind of game that you

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Speaker 6: should have been getting from Brandon Cooks before whatever reason

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Speaker 6: just don't consistently get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, Hunter Lipke, I mean, he's another guy that he's

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Speaker 5: shown to be able to catch them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe in a wet weather game, too. Hunder Lipke

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Speaker 3: running the football not a not a bad option there.

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Speaker 3: I mean, now you know when people say, well he

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Speaker 3: needs to hold on the ball, well, that was one time.

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Speaker 3: I think Hunter Lipkey has shown you he could play

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Speaker 3: with balance, He's got vision, he's tough. Yeah, if it

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Speaker 3: turns into okay, we're fighting for four and five yards

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Speaker 3: of carry here. You know, Hunter Lipke would not be

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Speaker 3: a bad option. Or throwing him the ball is not

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Speaker 3: a bad option. He's not going to make a mistake

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Speaker 3: that way. He's going to make plays for you. Every

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Speaker 3: time he makes a play, the play after seems to

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Speaker 3: be even a better play. Somebody makes a touchdown. You know,

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Speaker 3: we saw Ceedee Lamb he had the fourth down run.

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Speaker 3: What happened the very next play they had the past

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Speaker 3: to to lamp touchdown against the Giants. I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: the kind of guy that keeps the offense going that way.

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Speaker 6: I heard something on the radio this morning on one

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Speaker 6: O five three the Fan. It was on Sean and

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Speaker 6: RJ Show, and they mentioned that the Cowboys were I

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Speaker 6: think they said second right now in the league in

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Speaker 6: streak a number of consecutive games without a one hundred

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Speaker 6: yard rusher and I want to say. The number was

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Speaker 6: like I want to say, but the next closest team

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Speaker 6: was the Broncos. They were leading the league. I think

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Speaker 6: it's like seventeen. And they asked ask an interesting question.

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Speaker 6: I'll ask you, guys, if the Cowboys are going to

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Speaker 6: break this streak this season, which of those, which of

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Speaker 6: the running backs on this team is more likely to

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Speaker 6: do it?

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Speaker 2: Hmmm?

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Speaker 8: Just gives him in every way, I mean most likely

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Speaker 8: down I guess.

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Speaker 5: But uh, I want to see the guy that's still

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Speaker 5: sitting there in the practice squad waiting to be called up,

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Speaker 5: because that's.

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Speaker 2: If anything, if anything, just something different.

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Speaker 8: Some exactly something.

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Speaker 2: But it's not it's not about it.

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Speaker 8: It might not even work exactly.

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Speaker 5: But the benefit of the doubt that maybe I'm giving

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Speaker 5: them is like, Okay, they see the whole practice. Maybe

907
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Speaker 5: they're seeing something that is just like okay, well you

908
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Speaker 5: guys like us, we don't get to see. And there's

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Speaker 5: a reason why they're making this decision not to put

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Speaker 5: him up just yet. But I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 5: just I don't see anybody doing it.

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Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook, I think it's Dalvin Cook. I think there's

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Speaker 3: they're going to get to a point and unfortunately, I

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Speaker 3: don't let the thing get to two and five. You know,

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Speaker 3: don't don't don't find.

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Speaker 8: What you decide to bring him up?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean you need to.

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Speaker 3: If if you get to a point there, there's going

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Speaker 3: to you're going to need the ability to run the football.

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Speaker 3: And you know there's going to come to a time

921
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Speaker 3: too where they're going to look at it and they're

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Speaker 3: going to go, we've I mean, the next two weeks

923
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Speaker 3: are not going to be easy playing playing offense against

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Speaker 3: these next two defenses Pittsburgh and I know we've talked

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Speaker 3: about Pittsburgh. Yeah, I mean it's but to me, if

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Speaker 3: somebody's going to break dabt'll makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey would be the next guy. If you volume,

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Speaker 3: you carry just you know, I'd love to see a

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Speaker 3: game where Dallas is ahead and they just turned the

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Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey in a four minute offense and it turned

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Speaker 3: into deck just like they did against the Giants. First down,

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Speaker 3: pass for four or five yards, Hand the ball to

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Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey for four or five Hand it to him

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Speaker 3: again for a first down. Throw the ball again on

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Speaker 3: first down.

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Speaker 2: You know, play play. Don't play a game.

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Speaker 3: Where you're you're having to run it. But Dallas did

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Speaker 3: a good job against the Giants on first down throwing

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Speaker 3: the ball to at least get five or six yards,

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Speaker 3: so the next play could be a positive run, you know.

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Speaker 3: But I'd love to see Hunter Lipke getting a four

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Speaker 3: minute offense on a grass field in Pittsburgh and just

943
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Speaker 3: try and wear them down at the end of a

944
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Speaker 3: game and kill this thing off.

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Speaker 2: That would be glorious.

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Speaker 5: And if anything, I mean bringing Cook up, and I

947
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Speaker 5: get it it. It gets tricky with the whole roster

948
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Speaker 5: spot situation and how many times you can bring him up.

949
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Speaker 5: And but but the point is maybe that also elevates

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Speaker 5: everybody else's game and puts them in their toes like,

951
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Speaker 5: oh crap, okay, let me let me do something better here.

952
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Speaker 5: You know. It creates a more competition within their own

953
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Speaker 5: running back group. But they just have to do something

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Speaker 5: different and you have someone different. They're just waiting to

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Speaker 5: be called up.

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Speaker 6: All right, that's a wrap. We'll be back on tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: We'll wrap this thing up before you get you guys

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Speaker 6: ready for the Sunday game. Hopefully it does happen on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: We're going to.

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Speaker 6: Brian Roddison Navigarci. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The

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Speaker 6: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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