Speaker 1: I just keep going back to to Heather or not Heather.
Speaker 1: What's her name? Shannon Badoor? Where she was always calling
Speaker 1: you Meghan King Edmund she loves I know.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not a serial killer. I don't have
Speaker 2: three names. Not really?
Speaker 3: Are you still legally Edmunds?
Speaker 1: No? Fuck no?
Speaker 4: Fuck you not drop that fast enough. I have Meghan
Speaker 4: King on the podcast today. Hey, babe, we have a
Speaker 4: lot of comment.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we do. It's nice to finally meet
Speaker 2: in person and discuss.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: I feel like I know you because I watched you
Speaker 4: on TV.
Speaker 1: We've been texting right right, Yeah, And I had no
Speaker 1: idea how similar our situations were.
Speaker 2: They're very, very parallel, which reminds me. Use the term
Speaker 2: parallel parenting. Yeah, I love that. Did you coin that?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: I actually realized that it was a thing when I
Speaker 1: was talking to someone who had, you know, been through
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships and custody things, and he was like,
Speaker 1: you don't co parent with that person.
Speaker 2: You parallel I love that. And I heard that from you,
Speaker 2: and that's exactly what I'm going through. It's a nice
Speaker 2: way to say that there's no co parenting relationship.
Speaker 4: No, And I don't want a co parenting relationship.
Speaker 2: I mean, ideally, I think it would be nice to
Speaker 2: have one, but like you have, you can't be a
Speaker 2: human being.
Speaker 1: First night that if I don't want one. I can't
Speaker 1: co parent with a controlling narcissist.
Speaker 2: No, you can't, And I absolutely know that. Yeah, as fact,
Speaker 2: they live it every day.
Speaker 4: Torture.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I recently got a temporary restraining order that I
Speaker 2: then I dropped just because we entered into a consent agreement,
Speaker 2: but not before my axe had to use his mouthpiece
Speaker 2: to go slam me in the tabloids about how like I'm,
Speaker 2: you know, attempting to get a restraining order and therefore
Speaker 2: I'm like diminishing the abuse of like the real abuse
Speaker 2: that women go through in domestic violence cases. And that's
Speaker 2: it's such bullshit because the law doesn't recognize I think
Speaker 2: it's starting to, but it doesn't officially recognize emotional abuse
Speaker 2: as a form of domestic violence, right, And I just
Speaker 2: know that I've had to work through so much and
Speaker 2: I continue to through my triggers. So if that's not
Speaker 2: domestic violence, then what is?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's it's coercive control that is dropped pretty
Speaker 1: frequently on one mom's battle.
Speaker 2: Yes, so Tina and I started texting and she's yes,
Speaker 2: has she helped you navigate that she has helped me navigate?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, she Her story is insane.
Speaker 2: And hers is a continuing story as well. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: it's not over yet.
Speaker 5: She's incredible too, because well for many reasons. But I
Speaker 5: believe she represented herself in court.
Speaker 2: She did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so she had to do all the research, all
Speaker 5: the study.
Speaker 3: She's a bad bitch.
Speaker 4: No, she is a bad bitch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're right, it's not being It's not something
Speaker 1: that people talk about very often. But there's so many
Speaker 1: things I know in the state of California that fall
Speaker 1: under DV, like when someone if you're living in a
Speaker 1: home and the other party is filming you without your
Speaker 1: knowledge or consent, it goes right under the domestic violence.
Speaker 2: See, California recognizes a lot more than protects their people,
Speaker 2: more than the state of Missouri, which is still very
Speaker 2: traditional in all of those ways. So I'm glad to
Speaker 2: hear that California is recognizing it because it has been
Speaker 2: such a battle for me. And basically what I've heard
Speaker 2: from lawyers is it's not that bad or just like,
Speaker 2: it's like, let it go. It's the father your kids.
Speaker 2: Let it go. Let it go. Only when I took
Speaker 2: things into my own hands and documented on the phone,
Speaker 2: like on video, and then called the police and then
Speaker 2: made a report and actually wrote it all down, that's
Speaker 2: when I felt empowered to have a sense of safety.
Speaker 1: What was he doing?
Speaker 4: Can you tell us?
Speaker 2: I mean, there's been a lot that's happened over the years,
Speaker 2: but the majority of it is like this creepy like stalking,
Speaker 2: threat also threatening words. Right, it's all in writing all
Speaker 2: of it. It's like, what are you doing? It's literally
Speaker 2: every last word all these would listen to what he
Speaker 2: just did. He's on his honeymoon in Italy right now.
Speaker 2: Just got married on my birthday. Best gets better and
Speaker 2: he okay, he forgot that we were switching a day
Speaker 2: that I was taking one of his days because I
Speaker 2: was in town and he was in Italy. Right and
Speaker 2: I pick up my kids from school, but he writes
Speaker 2: an email. He replies all to an email from my
Speaker 2: son's school. Who doesn't go to school with my daughter
Speaker 2: and says, where the fuck is or where the hell
Speaker 2: is my daughter? They don't even know who who our
Speaker 2: daughter is? She doesn't go to that school. And then
Speaker 2: I reply all and I'm like, I'm really sorry about this.
Speaker 2: There's been a miscommunication and I tried to like smooth
Speaker 2: it over, and then he replies all to that and
Speaker 2: says something like in totally messed up grammar, how now
Speaker 2: everyone can see how bad I suck and how I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to stir up drama.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he's a real nurses like on his honeymood.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, because he's still got to keep
Speaker 1: control of you. What is he gonna How could he
Speaker 1: enjoy Italy if you're not being controlled.
Speaker 2: In la unbelievable, Like he doesn't even know where our
Speaker 2: daughter goes to school. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I so relate to this. They're like I can't stop
Speaker 1: smiling because I'm picturing Jim or writing all this shit,
Speaker 1: and it's like, stop crawling your hole, Like someone just.
Speaker 2: Goes away, like go to your honeymoon.
Speaker 4: Go on your honeymoon and enjoy your fucking life.
Speaker 2: And every time he posts about this wife, it's almost
Speaker 2: some sort of jab at me or to all of
Speaker 2: his ex wives, because I'm number three ex wife and
Speaker 2: now he's on a wife four and He literally did this,
Speaker 2: which I don't know if it was purposeful or not,
Speaker 2: but he wrote the most beautiful bride ever. Well, you've
Speaker 2: had four, so I know. And then like he'll be
Speaker 2: like to everyone out there who's talking about me, I'm
Speaker 2: sure you're still married to your first husband or wife.
Speaker 4: Like just be happy, right, Like, go be happy?
Speaker 2: I know. Don't address the haters. You know all about haters.
Speaker 2: I know all about haters. Yeah, do we address them
Speaker 2: when necessary? Is it constant?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Is it on a picture of your on your wedding day? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: Oh, he's commenting on things that are like on his
Speaker 4: wedding day.
Speaker 2: He like posted a picture on his wedding day. And
Speaker 2: then I was like to all you haters to whatever
Speaker 2: it was, I'm not, like, no, it's not verbati is.
Speaker 4: The new Do you communicate with the new wife?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I don't. He's had her block me and stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so she's easy to control, probably, which I
Speaker 1: think she likes it.
Speaker 4: They love that.
Speaker 5: But for a quick background, so have you two ever
Speaker 5: met in real life?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: How did mean?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: How did you start? How did you first come in contact?
Speaker 1: Did I slide in your DRAMs or did you slide
Speaker 1: in mind. It was something somebody's something about our situations.
Speaker 2: Were you know I think you were like, Megan, come
Speaker 2: on my podcast something like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: I had read an article or something and I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to get you on the podcast. And then
Speaker 1: we started texting.
Speaker 3: And you both have been going through similar situations.
Speaker 4: Were you a divorce for how long have you been?
Speaker 2: I've been separated, like for the years. The divorce isn't no,
Speaker 2: the divorce is final, but divorce, you know it took
Speaker 2: like a year and a half or whatever.
Speaker 5: Oh so three years you were Okay, I got it
Speaker 5: and you were coming up on a year.
Speaker 4: So okay, my independence stay coming out.
Speaker 2: And the ocean will never know you two together? No,
Speaker 2: isn't that such a gift. One time, my kids saw
Speaker 2: a picture with me and their dad in it, and
Speaker 2: they said, you know my dad, Oh.
Speaker 3: Do you do you like? Do you like that?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it?
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I don't want ocean to know me
Speaker 1: as the person I was when I was with him. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was not my that wasn't me. I didn't recognize
Speaker 1: that person at all.
Speaker 2: Well, you came out of it quickly then, because like
Speaker 2: for you to be able to turn turn yourself around
Speaker 2: like that after like that level of abuse, it takes
Speaker 2: I think it takes a lot longer for most women
Speaker 2: to even identify that what they've been through is abuse,
Speaker 2: and that like any side effects that maybe they don't
Speaker 2: like in their own behavior are because of of their
Speaker 2: way of surviving when they were with a narcissist. I
Speaker 2: think that takes women a long time to wrap their.
Speaker 5: Brains around such a good point, because like, when you're
Speaker 5: in survival and I've I've I heard other friends who've
Speaker 5: been with narcissists say the same thing, like I don't
Speaker 5: know the person I was in that relationship because you're
Speaker 5: in survival mode, you have to act a certain way.
Speaker 5: I've never been in this situation, but from that, I'm like,
Speaker 5: I've had so many friends say that, like I did
Speaker 5: things I wasn't proud of, but I was in survival mode,
Speaker 5: or like I acted a way that I would never
Speaker 5: act again, or I always was fighting with this person.
Speaker 1: Oh constantly and never a smooth day, but it was.
Speaker 2: Certain and the gaslighting is so intense that you one
Speaker 2: begins to believe it and then you need coping mechanisms,
Speaker 2: and so how do you hope? Do you party? Do
Speaker 2: you do drugs? Do you like? Do you throw yourself
Speaker 2: into work? What do you do?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: These are coping mechanisms. This is not who this individual
Speaker 2: really is, right, And that's so hard to discern. The
Speaker 2: difference from when you're in the mix of the narcissistic abuse.
Speaker 1: I know, and unless you've been in it yourself, because
Speaker 1: people don't understand it is the most fucked up.
Speaker 4: I tell people, if you.
Speaker 1: See any of these signs in someone, whether it's a
Speaker 1: friend or a lover, like, you have to get out
Speaker 1: because they'll ruin you.
Speaker 2: Have you seen yourself with anyone else who's a narcissist?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I actually have just started like dipping my toe into
Speaker 1: talking to men and giving them a chance.
Speaker 4: But I'm hyper sensitive.
Speaker 1: Like the second that they start talking, I hang on
Speaker 1: every word and I'm like red flag that doesn't add up,
Speaker 1: you know, And these people could be completely normal, but
Speaker 1: I just I don't allow people in.
Speaker 2: Good for you, I need to put up more of
Speaker 2: a screen.
Speaker 3: Did it take you a second?
Speaker 5: Since it's been like three years, how did it take
Speaker 5: you a second to get back into the dating?
Speaker 1: Boy?
Speaker 2: You got married. Yeah, not really married, No, I did.
Speaker 2: I got remarried and then divorced. It was a quickie marriage. Okay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm a little different than than you, Lala. I
Speaker 2: think that I was in I was surprised by when
Speaker 2: my ex left. It was just it was very abrupt,
Speaker 2: and I think I was still in the place of
Speaker 2: trying to understand what it would look like to be
Speaker 2: separated from him, and then boom, it was done. And
Speaker 2: so I found my twins were eighteen months old, my
Speaker 2: daughter wasn't quite three, and I was desperate. I was
Speaker 2: in a like a place of desperation, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god. All I wanted was this partner. All
Speaker 2: I wanted was a family.
Speaker 1: So he heft he left the marriage.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, yes, he left the marriage.
Speaker 4: And what was his reasoning.
Speaker 2: Well, I found out that he had been hanging out
Speaker 2: with our nanny outside of the marriage, and I confronted
Speaker 2: them about it that morning. And when I confronted them
Speaker 2: about it and I fired the nanny, she was leaving
Speaker 2: and I was heated and I was like, get the
Speaker 2: fuck out of my house or whatever. And he says
Speaker 2: that he thought I was going after her like physically,
Speaker 2: I was not. I was literally in my robe and
Speaker 2: he grabbed the back of my robe and it triggered
Speaker 2: me because he's touched me before, and I the police,
Speaker 2: and when I called the police, he like he ended
Speaker 2: up leaving, and that was when he left me. Kimberly.
Speaker 2: My friend is here saying she's nodding her head because
Speaker 2: she saw a lot of this too, the energy when
Speaker 2: he left the house, I just I literally felt lighter.
Speaker 2: I felt like I wanted to do things that I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do before, like wipe down the kitchen table,
Speaker 2: like weird little things that I suddenly cared about again,
Speaker 2: like I cared about a clean table, like tiny things.
Speaker 2: I find joy in small moments finally again, whereas before
Speaker 2: I was constantly under a microscope and constantly doing something wrong.
Speaker 2: Everything I do is his fault. If he stubs his toe,
Speaker 2: his toe, it's my fault, it's your fault.
Speaker 1: These men are such pieces of shit now really, and
Speaker 1: you know what I do with shit.
Speaker 4: I put them in the trash. I put them in
Speaker 4: the trash and goodbye.
Speaker 5: I love I love that you're both talking about it, though,
Speaker 5: because there has been this, Like I even before I
Speaker 5: met laala, And before I was like, oh, if I
Speaker 5: looked in the mirror too long, I'm like, I'm so
Speaker 5: a narcissist. And then I finally learned, I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: that's what a lot of people think it is. You
Speaker 5: just like love yourself or you're obsessed with yourself. But
Speaker 5: it's completely different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's not what a narcissist, I know, But
Speaker 2: a narcissistic trait, too, is different than being a narcissist.
Speaker 2: And I think that was that Like for people who
Speaker 2: throw around the term narcissists too much, I think that's
Speaker 2: important to understand that narcissistic traits do not make one
Speaker 2: a narcissist.
Speaker 4: Correct, But most people don't know that. Yeah, No, or
Speaker 4: women way, I don't.
Speaker 1: I like to keep this topic alive. It's not about
Speaker 1: like dragging these two men. It's about shedding light on
Speaker 1: situations that two women were in and a lot of
Speaker 1: other women are in these situations and it has to
Speaker 1: be spoken about because I'm telling you, a narcissist will
Speaker 1: bleed you dry financially, mentally, emotionally. They will take everything
Speaker 1: from you until you are living on the street and
Speaker 1: can't even function.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true, including the children, and you think, like
Speaker 2: the children can be used as ponds. They know that's
Speaker 2: our weak spot. They can't get us with the money.
Speaker 2: They can't get us like emotionally as much anymore, not
Speaker 2: with this order that I have. But yeah, the children, heck, yeah,
Speaker 2: he can get me with them. Course, and it hurts them,
Speaker 2: but like, so what as long as he's hurting me
Speaker 2: because he hates me way more than he loves them.
Speaker 3: And all of your children are his.
Speaker 2: Statement that was, Yeah, it's true. Wow, And like I
Speaker 2: think I'm such a lover and I just want everybody to,
Speaker 2: you know, be happy and loved, and everybody's flawed. But
Speaker 2: I've come to realize that, like there's something so wrong
Speaker 2: and these the brains of these individuals that you can't
Speaker 2: fix it. I read recently that a true narcissist, you know,
Speaker 2: like how yawns are contagious. Yeah, true narcissist won't yawn
Speaker 2: when someone else yawns because they literally lack empathy to
Speaker 2: even understand what that feels. Like?
Speaker 3: What is wild?
Speaker 1: How long after how did you say your your other
Speaker 1: the annull's marriage?
Speaker 2: How did I say?
Speaker 4: How do you say his name again?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Cuff?
Speaker 1: Cuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, why DoD everyone call him coufe.
Speaker 2: Well it's kind of spelled like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's just that simple cuff.
Speaker 1: How did you meet him? Riah?
Speaker 2: We met on dating app Riya.
Speaker 3: There's a riot.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not on any dating apps yet.
Speaker 2: Ria, it's like my fave is it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 4: The thing is though, is like riat is for dating,
Speaker 4: Like you're on there to date? Right, it's not a
Speaker 4: hookup site.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think it's a hookup site, but
Speaker 2: like it's a dating app, so I think like inevitably
Speaker 2: there's going to be hookups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like I'm down. I feel like my roster
Speaker 1: of hookups is looking quite nice.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah they're not hardy.
Speaker 1: I don't think I am ready to go into like
Speaker 1: the dating pool yet.
Speaker 2: So what do you like?
Speaker 4: What do you talk on apps?
Speaker 2: So? What do you when? Will you be ready?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What what level in life do you have to reach?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What are you looking to do?
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 4: I think I need to let my guard down a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 1: I think I need some sort of resolution in my
Speaker 1: life and then I think I'll be open to it
Speaker 1: because right now it's like someone comes into my world
Speaker 1: I hang on every word they say, I'm taking a
Speaker 1: mental note, I'm sending the name off to the PI forget.
Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding. Do you do that too? Why
Speaker 2: you have like three, like three background checks of persent?
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, A fellow, A fellow.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very good company in this room. I love that.
Speaker 5: So then I'm gonna ask, have you ever did you
Speaker 5: ever have trust issues? Or was it never because I
Speaker 5: know you got in a relationship right after and then
Speaker 5: it was annulled. But then were you like, okay, I
Speaker 5: need to like face or were you just like no,
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I really don't have trust
Speaker 2: is shoe overall? I really don't. I mean, I'm definitely
Speaker 2: a lot harder than I was twenty years ago as
Speaker 2: far as the trust goes, But overall I kind of
Speaker 2: think that, like I'm a hopeless romantic and I think
Speaker 2: that's why I married that guy so fast in the
Speaker 2: first place. I want to believe in a happy ending
Speaker 2: in fairy tale, and like I think, only now, at
Speaker 2: age thirty eight, am I to the point where I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be a fairy tale. It might
Speaker 2: even be better not being a fairy tale right, well, hello, Meg,
Speaker 2: like only took it hellock long to get here, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm kind of opposite of you, and you think
Speaker 2: you have me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you? Or no?
Speaker 4: Are you just I always see.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's called trust issues. I think it's
Speaker 1: just called being smart.
Speaker 2: Okay you like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't think it's baggage.
Speaker 1: I think it's like me having knowledge about someone is
Speaker 1: power for me. But I even after everything I've been through,
Speaker 1: I still believe in love too. I'm like, I know
Speaker 1: my person is out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, same. I mean, but with the
Speaker 2: whole like cough marriage thing, I think it was I
Speaker 2: was in a place of desperation where I truly wanted
Speaker 2: that partner so badly that I fell into this like
Speaker 2: where I, you know, look at all the good things
Speaker 2: and let all the red flags just like go by
Speaker 2: the way. I'm really good at that.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a very very personal question. Sure,
Speaker 1: did he eat the cookies before he put it in?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you ignored red flags. Any any man
Speaker 1: who's eaten it before he puts it in, there are
Speaker 1: no red flags.
Speaker 2: And back to the hookups.
Speaker 3: You he's a living and dining.
Speaker 1: Right, No, I am, because I went to New York
Speaker 1: and I and had some fun time and now I
Speaker 1: cannot get my mind off the deck. Oh I'm like.
Speaker 2: Next yet, right, I know, but I did the hookups.
Speaker 2: I'm really done with the hookups. I totally get that,
Speaker 2: you know, Like I can. I can hook up with
Speaker 2: my vibrator and it's really good and way.
Speaker 1: Good, you know, and you can have like ZiT cream
Speaker 1: on exactly.
Speaker 2: You don't have to like go get groomed or anything,
Speaker 2: and it's the best orgasm. Yeah, as fast as slow
Speaker 2: as you want it, right, And so so that's my
Speaker 2: hookup right now. Like I'm really looking for a meaningful connection.
Speaker 4: Are you cool?
Speaker 2: No, we're not cool. We don't talk, okay, good to know.
Speaker 1: What's the point of talking about.
Speaker 2: Why would you talk? Exactly? There's no reason, there's no
Speaker 2: It was an old which means there's no property to
Speaker 2: split anything.
Speaker 4: Right, just like call it a day, have a good life.
Speaker 1: Cool story though that like President Biden was just like
Speaker 1: at your wedding, that.
Speaker 2: Part of it is cool, but it didn't feel it's
Speaker 2: fucking cool. It didn't. It didn't feel like, well, I
Speaker 2: guess it did. I mean looking around and seeing like
Speaker 2: Secret Service and stuff there that was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: But other than that, it just felt like a family.
Speaker 2: You know, it just felt like a family wedding. Small.
Speaker 1: It was small.
Speaker 2: It was like forty people or something tiny. And then
Speaker 2: just like the Secret Service, yeah, like as definitely at
Speaker 2: least as many of them as there were us at least.
Speaker 1: No, so they were like, I know, you only have
Speaker 1: a forty five person wedding or forty person wedding, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to need forty five more for my Secret
Speaker 1: Service probably.
Speaker 2: And then there was like, well it was a it
Speaker 2: was a parents' house. And then like when I was
Speaker 2: driving there there on the highway, there was like all
Speaker 2: the exits were shut down and like police runt exits,
Speaker 2: and I was like, what is going on here? They're
Speaker 2: like the presidents in town. I'm like, oh yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Like he's coming to my wedding.
Speaker 2: The whole street was shut down like that that the
Speaker 2: wedding was on and snipers snipers, yes, And I was
Speaker 2: like we had to like go tell the Secret Service,
Speaker 2: like we have to go down the street because the
Speaker 2: bride's in the.
Speaker 1: Car and were They like, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: We call President Biden.
Speaker 4: Sure, that's true.
Speaker 5: They're like, okay, go ahead, wild So are you do
Speaker 5: you still use Riyah right now?
Speaker 3: Are you on Riot?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And you're you're having success with it?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I like, like I think sometimes like the Ryans have
Speaker 2: like big heads. Yeah, so what the Ryans? The people
Speaker 2: on Riyah? People in Riyah?
Speaker 4: You call them Ryan's?
Speaker 2: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 1: I love that. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it's like a dick measuring contest,
Speaker 2: like who has a cooler job kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Oh really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like who has the better burning man photo kind
Speaker 2: of thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But what about bumble where like the female chooses everything.
Speaker 1: Have you tried bumble? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know. And then you know, sometimes like on
Speaker 2: those apps, it's just too overloaded, Like for you, the
Speaker 2: guys will probably a lot of them know who you are.
Speaker 2: A lot of guys don't know who I am unless
Speaker 2: they're gay, which is like they're not interested in me
Speaker 2: in the first.
Speaker 1: Place, right right right?
Speaker 2: But for you, I feel like more men know who
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 4: I feel like not really, Oh so maybe you could
Speaker 4: do a normal.
Speaker 1: Especially my type of guy. I just don't see them
Speaker 1: watching Bravo right now. Right Maybe if I was like
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader, they would know who they would Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Don't like on my Instagram, I think I have five
Speaker 2: percent men following me.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a low.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty low too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe you could do a bumble, but those
Speaker 2: you might just get overloaded. You know, you're on for
Speaker 2: an hour and then you have like five hundred people
Speaker 2: I don't know hours. The one with the girl, one
Speaker 2: has the girl.
Speaker 4: The girl does this swiping.
Speaker 2: Inge was good? Oh gosh, these are energy suckers. Yes,
Speaker 2: an hour? Yes?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Can you put in your type and stuff?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you have to like pay to do you
Speaker 2: know your type and you gotta do this. We'll set
Speaker 2: up ready, there, you set up a profile.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, I have to pay one.
Speaker 2: No, you only have to pay if you want to say, like,
Speaker 2: they have to be over six feet tall or then
Speaker 2: I'm paying certain And.
Speaker 5: Then from each of you, what's your type? What type
Speaker 5: of guy are you into?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I like this question, migan.
Speaker 1: What's your type?
Speaker 2: I love it? I want like, I want a manly
Speaker 2: man who's fun and funny and really cool with three kids,
Speaker 2: and you want him to have three kids? No, my
Speaker 2: three kids really cool?
Speaker 1: Oh you want him to be.
Speaker 2: Cool with your three three kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course I would like someone about my age,
Speaker 2: someone who travels a lot and has like a non
Speaker 2: traditional lifestyle and like I want him to be able
Speaker 2: to pick me up and throw me around totally.
Speaker 4: That's not Yeah, yeah, do you love that type?
Speaker 3: Do you mind if he has kids?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I don't mind if he has kids. No, not at all.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, let's deep dive. I like tall, so definitely
Speaker 1: over six feet.
Speaker 2: Okay, how tall are you?
Speaker 4: I'm five six, but I throw a heel five eleven.
Speaker 2: Oh you need to think about that.
Speaker 4: You got to have a tall, tall motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You gotta have like a basketball player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then well maybe not, but like what if
Speaker 2: I go to somebody in my same height? This has
Speaker 2: like been a challenge for me, well because they have
Speaker 2: to be really confident.
Speaker 4: So you care about hold on your five eleven?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you gotta go taller.
Speaker 1: They have to be like they gotta be like six
Speaker 1: two six three minimum minimum with Yeah, okay, so you're
Speaker 1: six feet taller than I'm thinking. If you can if
Speaker 1: you can hit about a six two six three, that's
Speaker 1: we're in visits.
Speaker 2: That's like the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta be tall. All three of the dudes
Speaker 1: are tall right now?
Speaker 2: All three of your guys. Yeah, you have three guys.
Speaker 4: I have a little I have a Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: And I was like, this is so fun.
Speaker 1: And now it's getting to the point where I'm like
Speaker 1: I want one hundred on the roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, may on balance all of Like, if one's not
Speaker 2: texting back, there's like two other ones.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you need a rotation because one doesn't expect
Speaker 5: then you'll be like, fine, I've got it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter like you're not.
Speaker 3: You don't even think about it, Okay, keep going.
Speaker 1: They have to have tattoos.
Speaker 2: How come?
Speaker 1: I just love tattoos.
Speaker 2: Okay everywhere.
Speaker 1: It definitely adds character. It definitely like I need tattoos.
Speaker 1: I would say, tall, dark and handsome.
Speaker 4: Gotta have a jaw line.
Speaker 1: I like facial hair. So that's important today. Have to
Speaker 1: be cool that I haven't kid.
Speaker 2: Obviously one's easier than three.
Speaker 4: One is easy.
Speaker 1: And my kid's like the coolest kid you'll ever meet
Speaker 1: besides your three kids. And they've got to have like,
Speaker 1: I don't care what their job is, but you have
Speaker 1: to have a job. Actually, men with money scare me
Speaker 1: right now because I think they have a power struggle.
Speaker 1: But I will never not have my own place ever again,
Speaker 1: even if I get married to this person, not legally
Speaker 1: but just like we live together, I will always have
Speaker 1: my own place place because God, for something happens. I
Speaker 1: want to be able to dip in the port vision.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm even funny about dudes calling me a car.
Speaker 2: What do you wait? Why?
Speaker 4: I'm like, I can call myself.
Speaker 2: Oh, I get weird like that too. I don't need
Speaker 2: you to get any serve for me. No, I get
Speaker 2: weird like that too, because I think like a gift
Speaker 2: is even an airplane ticket, and so if somebody's like
Speaker 2: an airplane ticket, I'm like, no, no, I got it, I
Speaker 2: got it.
Speaker 4: Yepp.
Speaker 1: Also not staying with you when I get there, I'll
Speaker 1: book myself a hotel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks a lot, got it totally, unless, like I, well,
Speaker 2: I have I have started that way and then it
Speaker 2: doesn't end that way.
Speaker 4: No, but at least you know, at least you know
Speaker 4: you have.
Speaker 2: It right, and then it takes away that the like
Speaker 2: gravity of the expectations on the day too.
Speaker 4: Write I know.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? Every time I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: about to have sex, I have a full melt down.
Speaker 4: What I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And I have nothing because I'm sober, so I don't
Speaker 1: have anything to like, I can't have a glass of
Speaker 1: wine to call my nerves or anything. It's like, I'm
Speaker 1: very aware.
Speaker 2: Right, Wait, so you have a panic attack or something
Speaker 2: like in front of these men.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Before before I'm ready to like go over there,
Speaker 1: I'm just like marry in my head about it for something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's new and story panic attacks.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm sure all right. Before in my mind, I'm
Speaker 2: like picturing you naked, like about to go at it,
Speaker 2: and you're like I can't do it. Oh no, I'm
Speaker 2: like that's that's not good.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, we haven't gotten to that point yet.
Speaker 2: We won't get there.
Speaker 4: Get nervous about just like what am I doing?
Speaker 1: What am I doing? Like I start going through all
Speaker 1: the ship and then once we're there, once we're there, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just a bag of fun, ready to just turn
Speaker 1: it on, I know. And so then it happens and
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's add someone else to the roster because
Speaker 1: I want to like going dance with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah, all right, lovely up.
Speaker 1: Here looking up is a lot. How did we even
Speaker 1: get to that? Obviously type?
Speaker 5: But I want to know before we're done with the types.
Speaker 3: Age range.
Speaker 5: I know you said near your age, but like, give
Speaker 5: me a range for each of you youngest oldest?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, okay, well it's twenty three too young.
Speaker 1: I'm thirty eight, I don't think so it's not for
Speaker 1: a relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like hooking up, hooking up not at now, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: because that happened.
Speaker 5: Because I've already done it.
Speaker 2: So ideally, I would say my age range is like
Speaker 2: thirty one to like fifty five.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, broad, Yeah, that is broad.
Speaker 2: There's a lot, but like best age, like thirty nine, okay,
Speaker 2: so very close to your age, close to your age,
Speaker 2: because then I feel like we could like grow something
Speaker 2: together totally, you know, right right?
Speaker 4: I think mine would be no younger than twenty eight, okay,
Speaker 4: and no older than thirty eight old are you? Yeah,
Speaker 4: thirty two?
Speaker 2: Okay, So that's like, yeah, all right, right in the middle,
Speaker 2: right in the middle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, red flags because you guys have each mentioned like,
Speaker 5: oh that's red flag.
Speaker 3: That's red flag.
Speaker 5: But I think there are different red flags for people,
Speaker 5: So mention some of yours, each of yours, because you
Speaker 5: like notoriously had some red flags on someone that. Stacy
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, red flags, but you weren't even like
Speaker 5: a big red flag until you got to like unpaid
Speaker 5: parking tickets or something. No way, Yeah, so like what
Speaker 5: are red flags?
Speaker 2: I mean there's I feel like I could write a
Speaker 2: book on like how many red flags. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I just like ignore them, you do? I mean I have,
Speaker 2: I have. I'm trying not to anymore.
Speaker 1: But right, but I think it's okay if you're if
Speaker 1: you see red flags and you know number one, this
Speaker 1: person is never going to be around my children. This
Speaker 1: person is just a hookup. We're not going to end
Speaker 1: up together. Then it's like whatever he has unpaid parking tickets.
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm just trying to get some good dick.
Speaker 2: As long as fall in love with that person. Oh
Speaker 2: that's the problem.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so you got to don't care to have
Speaker 4: to be more careful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like ir and like I romanticize everything, every situation,
Speaker 2: every everything, So like I can't just hook up with
Speaker 2: unpaid party ticket man because next thing I know will
Speaker 2: be married.
Speaker 5: Do you think it's the hooking up that makes you
Speaker 5: because her mom is always like, once you have set
Speaker 5: I'm the opposite. I'm like, have fun. You can have
Speaker 5: sex with someone and then the next day be like
Speaker 5: that was it. But her mom, which I love, is like,
Speaker 5: once you have sex with someone, your heart gets into it.
Speaker 3: Do you think that I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if I don't know if it's really that
Speaker 2: like cut and dry with me, but I can see
Speaker 2: where she's coming from. I think maybe if depending on
Speaker 2: her personality, perhaps okay, no not okay, no, okay, I
Speaker 2: can write them off real quick.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in that space right now too.
Speaker 1: Just with everything that I've been through right now, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I would be able to get super
Speaker 1: attached to somebody, even with or without sex. I just
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in this zone. And I also have
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I have to get done
Speaker 1: during the day. I don't have time to sit here
Speaker 1: and think about like if the person who just threw
Speaker 1: good dick at me is going to text me today?
Speaker 2: Right? If he does text you, then he texts you,
Speaker 2: and if not, like it's that's also a message.
Speaker 1: It's all.
Speaker 4: It's all the same to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would know red flags until
Speaker 1: they presented themselves to me, Like if I get a
Speaker 1: background check, I'm not going to know something's a red
Speaker 1: flag until I read it and go, okay, that might
Speaker 1: be a red.
Speaker 3: Flag, right right? I get that.
Speaker 5: Is there anything in a personality though, where you're like
Speaker 5: red flag?
Speaker 2: I know a red flag a bad tipper, bad tip?
Speaker 2: Oh no, massive red flag?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And red flag if they not red flag if they
Speaker 6: give a huge, huge, huge tip and then ask you
Speaker 6: if you could please replace the sewer because they don't
Speaker 6: have the eighteen thousand dollars to wait.
Speaker 2: Or this happen, Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Red flag when there's fucking water coming through the ceiling.
Speaker 2: Red flag when you use a debit card because your
Speaker 2: credit cards are maxed up?
Speaker 4: Huge red right lies is huge red flag.
Speaker 5: We played this game on and that would have been
Speaker 5: a good.
Speaker 1: But it's a huge.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well this happened.
Speaker 4: I'm just glad.
Speaker 1: I'm out of it. If you want to listen to
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you can listen. If you don't want
Speaker 1: to listen and you want to stay with this person.
Speaker 1: I really don't give a shit.
Speaker 4: I'm just happy that I'm like free.
Speaker 2: Free, freedom. God, Yes, it feels so damn good. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And like having someone in front of me who like,
Speaker 1: I just want just naked in the bed. Did you
Speaker 1: have that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean Jim and I like we our sex
Speaker 2: life was fine, like that was never really an issue
Speaker 2: until I had the babies.
Speaker 4: But narcissists don't like when a woman has babies because.
Speaker 2: The attention is started. And then like when I remember
Speaker 2: I was pregnant once and I was getting out of
Speaker 2: the shower, I was really big, and he says, I'm
Speaker 2: just so sorry. I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: He's like, your poor body, you're ruining it.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Was it a fight or at that point?
Speaker 2: No, it was like he like that was his way
Speaker 2: of like actually being like empathetic to me. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: By the way, I thought I looked amazing.
Speaker 1: I felt you did look amazing, thank you, And you
Speaker 1: looked I was a pregnant check though, I agree, like
Speaker 1: what do you I'm carrying your child?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: Yeah, both of you had partners that were cheating on
Speaker 5: you during pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, totally grouchy.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think that's because like when we're pregnant,
Speaker 2: we don't look the same. We don't we're tired, you know,
Speaker 2: we're hormonal. And then also we're not you know this
Speaker 2: felt sexy vixen not in their minds right, totally and
Speaker 2: so and like there's just other things to worry about,
Speaker 2: medical stuff whatever, and so like during that part of
Speaker 2: like my life, we didn't have a whole lot of sex.
Speaker 2: But he would complain all the time, like we never
Speaker 2: have sex, we know our sex. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 2: just had three babies in eighteen months. Give me a break.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. He sounds horrific.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'm so glad you're not with him anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. And I've had a lot of fun
Speaker 2: with sex since him too. It's been great.
Speaker 3: That's so importing.
Speaker 2: That's that's why I have my show Intimate Knowledge. I
Speaker 2: talk about my dating life on my new podcast.
Speaker 4: I want to come on.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh my gosh, yes, we have so.
Speaker 5: Many wait, I want to hear so intimately, what do
Speaker 5: you get it?
Speaker 3: Do you interview certain people?
Speaker 1: Do you do so?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So let my last one sort of yes, but
Speaker 2: mainly it's just about my own personal dating life and
Speaker 2: what's going on, because apparently everybody cares about it. Not everyone,
Speaker 2: like it's always it's in the tabloids a lot. So
Speaker 2: when I was in Vegas for the iHeartRadio Music Festival,
Speaker 2: my podcast team set me up with Mike Johnson, who's
Speaker 2: the former Bachelor, and he he's a big, black eyed,
Speaker 2: gorgeous man, like six foot five, done done, and we
Speaker 2: so like we walked the carpet together. We had so
Speaker 2: much fun and it was I mean, it was just
Speaker 2: like basically a publicity stunt, but I ended up like
Speaker 2: feeling like, Okay, I really like you, like you're a
Speaker 2: night a good guy. And he was like, nope, just
Speaker 2: one to me friends.
Speaker 5: You know. That's who I was asking about because I
Speaker 5: like Google and I just saw a photos and I
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, that's who I thought, but.
Speaker 2: I was I just was talking to Teddy Mellencamp this
Speaker 2: morning because she was we were hanging out with her
Speaker 2: all night, and I was like, Teddy, listen to this
Speaker 2: text he sent me. She was like, you're the only
Speaker 2: one who thought it might be more than a weekend.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. She's like you have a broken picker.
Speaker 2: I'm going to do your profiles. Yeah, now I get it. Fun.
Speaker 4: This sounds like such a fun podcast.
Speaker 2: It's so fun.
Speaker 1: You have to know that. I want to come on
Speaker 1: and then let's talk about this real quick before we
Speaker 1: sign off. You got new boobies and if you knows,
Speaker 1: I got news and an ear?
Speaker 2: What did you get ear?
Speaker 1: I got it pinned back?
Speaker 2: Oh you did? I've thought about that before, just one Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was it painful?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I bet it wasn't. No, I should have done that.
Speaker 4: Wait, let me see your ears?
Speaker 2: Like, why wouldn't I if I was just under already
Speaker 2: you're even. They're so even you, I mean whatever, They're
Speaker 2: not terrible, yes, like pin it back a little bit?
Speaker 1: When you pin it back?
Speaker 4: See, I know I can see it. I can.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you didn't do that, I
Speaker 1: would have I have to have people show me, like
Speaker 1: what it would look like? Pinback?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about your nose now? Because I
Speaker 1: know you said so when the bandage first came off?
Speaker 2: Did you see it? Did you see the pictures?
Speaker 1: I looked yes, last night I looked it up.
Speaker 4: Horrible and you you were swollen?
Speaker 2: It was swollen. And I didn't get need much done
Speaker 2: to my nose. So when I had the bandage taken off,
Speaker 2: it was more swollen than it was before I got
Speaker 2: my nose done. Okay, so I was horrified, but then
Speaker 2: the swollen went down quickly, and now I really like it.
Speaker 2: It was it's so cute.
Speaker 1: What did you not like about it?
Speaker 2: It just kind of had a bulbous tip, okay, like
Speaker 2: a round bulbous tip like a Bill Clinton, but not
Speaker 2: quiet okay, And so I had him remove that. But
Speaker 2: then I was like, I don't know, maybe the bridge
Speaker 2: will be too wide. Afterwards, I'm like, just do your magic,
Speaker 2: but make me look the same. And I think he
Speaker 2: did an incredible job. And he's also does boobs so cute.
Speaker 4: Your boobs look awesome.
Speaker 1: How many ccs did you do?
Speaker 2: Four seven? I did four seventy five, but I did
Speaker 2: have three twenty. Oh what did you do?
Speaker 1: I had three options because my boobs got so big
Speaker 1: after breastfeeding that my left one was so stretched out,
Speaker 1: and so there were three options. I could get huge implants, right,
Speaker 1: I could get the left one reduced, or I could
Speaker 1: have them put a hammock in, which is you know,
Speaker 1: essentially two rods on each side of the boob and
Speaker 1: then the skin is attached. What I'm gonna have the
Speaker 1: doctors on who did it because this could.
Speaker 4: Be completely office.
Speaker 2: This is what's th rereading or something.
Speaker 4: No, it's can I tell I have a mesh?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right now, I have a bionic tip. Like if
Speaker 1: you were that's what you have. It feels like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have like two rods. And I have to warn boys.
Speaker 1: I have to tell them I feel it.
Speaker 3: You can feel the rods.
Speaker 4: It's wild, you know.
Speaker 1: I'm like getting it in and I have to tell boys, like,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you suck my boobs, I may
Speaker 1: lactate and if you touch the left one you may
Speaker 1: feel something in there.
Speaker 2: So have you lactated?
Speaker 4: I have?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: They like it.
Speaker 1: In fact, that's how I knew that I was still
Speaker 1: lactating was the boy said to me there's stuff in there,
Speaker 1: And I was like, you love it?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 1: He was like, don't apologize. He was kind of into it.
Speaker 3: Did he swallow it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: It doesn't taste bad.
Speaker 4: I heard it tastes coconut milk. I'm sure muscles muscles.
Speaker 2: Well. If he's a big guy like you one, he's
Speaker 2: like me up. Yeah, no, there's a black market for that.
Speaker 2: That's what I for, like workout, beach g or not.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's h whatever. I want to
Speaker 5: say hgh, but maybe it's not. But they will buy
Speaker 5: breast milk.
Speaker 2: I think it's all kind of weird, which I don't
Speaker 2: know why it's weird, because if we drink cow's milk
Speaker 2: and oats milk and so, I don't know why it
Speaker 2: would be weird to drink human milk. But somehow it's weird.
Speaker 4: I know people think it's so weird. Do you love
Speaker 4: your new boobs?
Speaker 2: I love them? So he he like pushed them more
Speaker 2: together because I have a broad chest, so he like
Speaker 2: sewed the side so they'd be like more together.
Speaker 4: Yeah they were, And yeh they're bigger.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I.
Speaker 1: Know right there for everybody, I know, you're making me
Speaker 1: wish that I would have gone bigger.
Speaker 2: Your tubes are big, and you're smaller than me, so
Speaker 2: yours are like you already have that natural cleavage.
Speaker 4: Did you go underneath or through the nip?
Speaker 2: Underneath? Because I already did my boobs ten years ago?
Speaker 1: What did you do?
Speaker 4: I went underneath too, because I did my boobs ten
Speaker 4: years ago you did. Yeah, we're so insane.
Speaker 5: Were you only got your nose done a month ago?
Speaker 5: Because I heard healing for that was like three months.
Speaker 4: It looks amazing, It looks intible.
Speaker 2: I really love it. I think the heat, I mean
Speaker 2: it feels okay, but he'll be like feeling back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I think it'll go down with swelling in like
Speaker 2: two more months.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, one hundred per second, so yes, really yeah,
Speaker 1: think about what he did.
Speaker 4: He literally cut into your face.
Speaker 1: You're still going to be I think you're still gonna
Speaker 1: and it looks amazing, like if this.
Speaker 4: Were it, it would be so good.
Speaker 1: But I think there's.
Speaker 4: Still going to be swelling, don't you think.
Speaker 1: I mean for a year.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I'm the birds.
Speaker 1: I think is like a year to get them settled in.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be wearing a brawl right now like
Speaker 1: you have on Like you're not doing it.
Speaker 2: I'm not worrying anything.
Speaker 1: I know. That's amazing.
Speaker 4: It makes you not want to write.
Speaker 2: I know I've only gone like this like maybe five days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but be careful, will you ply? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just feel like when the doctor, what's your son
Speaker 1: sign Libra. Okay, that makes all the sense.
Speaker 4: Because my virgo mind is the doctor told you.
Speaker 2: And then her I'm like, oh, you told me to
Speaker 2: do something, throw in the direction.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: Where can people find your podcast so you guys.
Speaker 2: Can listen to me intimate knowledge wherever you get your
Speaker 2: podcasts or on iHeartRadio or Apple or anywhere else. And
Speaker 2: follow me on Instagram at Megan King. Yay.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on my podcast having me.
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you for listening to another episode of
Speaker 1: the Give Them Alla Podcast. We will catch you next week.