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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keats, and

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Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. Get you guys ready with a two hour

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Speaker 1: preview of the seahawks upcoming game. This one a week

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Speaker 1: fifteen matchup against the La Rams on the road. It's

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Speaker 1: the second of two games on the road before you

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Speaker 1: come back home to Seattle for games against Chicago in

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Speaker 1: the Lions. But let me not get too far ahead

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Speaker 1: of myself. We're just taking it one game out of time.

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Speaker 1: So before we even get to the Rams, you guys,

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Speaker 1: I want to take a look back to Houston in

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Speaker 1: that win over the Texans. Now, Dave, I'll start with

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Speaker 1: you on this one. It was a phenomenal, a phenomenal

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Speaker 1: day for Rashad Penny. And we're going to have Rashad

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Speaker 1: Penny on the huddle later today to talk to him

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Speaker 1: about that. But how can they repeat some of this

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Speaker 1: offensive success heading into a game against a better opponent? Frankly, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, once you do something like that, you kind

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Speaker 1: of it's like getting a recipe and put it in

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Speaker 1: your back pocket. I get and we've been talking all

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Speaker 1: week on our show about how Houston was not great

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Speaker 1: do something like that and you kind of prove it

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Speaker 1: to yourself. Look, I think the running game is is

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Speaker 1: you know part of it. I mean, some guys need

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it on our show today.

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Speaker 1: But the only person that needs to believe in Rashad

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Speaker 1: Penny is Rashad Penny, and that, to me, he proved

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Speaker 1: something to himself. So I'm hoping that he cracked some

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Speaker 1: kinds of benefits that come along with being able to

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Speaker 1: Rashad Penny of yeah, you're absolutely right, maybe this is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity where he is starting to, you know, feel healthy,

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Speaker 1: that's going to play into it and be a big

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I'm really curious about is how

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Speaker 1: is Rashad Penny gonna do with generating yards after contact,

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Speaker 1: getting those really truly tough yards that are probably going

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Speaker 1: What's your confidence level that he'll be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty fifty Jake with me, because you know, he's one

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Speaker 1: think he's a thoughtful guy. I think he's very interesting.

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Speaker 1: I think he's introspective. I think he will tell you

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Speaker 1: remember that as an athlete, you know, Stacy, I think,

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Speaker 1: know it was? It was the floors lava, dave floors law.

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Speaker 1: Now I was a swimmer, but um, I dislocated my

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Speaker 1: can get back to offense, Jake, if you want to

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Speaker 1: That's what you need to do on defense. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what it's about, all right. I want to bookmark this

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff coming up, so we're shod

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Speaker 1: Penny and Penny harp back to back player interviews that

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Speaker 1: starts at twelve thirty. Very excited to talk about Penny,

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Speaker 1: you guys, perfect timing, coming off a really exciting game

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Speaker 1: for him. We're gonna have tons of Seahawks experts and

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Speaker 1: Jake Keeps and Stacy Ross. We're joined now by Seahawks

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Speaker 1: reporter John Boyle. John, how's it going. It's going all right?

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Speaker 1: How you guys doing good? Good? I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: with the news that broke earlier this afternoon, Wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett and running back Alice Collins placed on the

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Speaker 1: reserve COVID list. Now in terms of just protocol, John,

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Speaker 1: and how it's going to work for potential availability on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: assuming those guys are vaccimated, then I mean they almost

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Speaker 1: I feel great. I mean, you know, just no, just

427
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,640
Speaker 1: just just excited, you know, happy about being back out

428
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: there and just putting together an injury free game and

429
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 1: just playing with confidence. It was probably one of the

430
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: best failings in the world for me. Well, that's great.

431
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,919
Speaker 1: That's what I want to ask you, Rashad, because and

432
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you process, if process the game

433
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 1: the way that that I used to, But was there

434
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: a moment in that game that was your best game?

435
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: Was there a moment like a stiff arm or a

436
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 1: move or something that you did that just kind of

437
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: clicked that that kind of made you think, Okay, I'm

438
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a good day. Did you have Did you

439
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 1: notice any moments like that as the game went on.

440
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, I'll take every approach like that to

441
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: every everything I do in life. No, no, besides football

442
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: life in general, you know, being a man, mature, just

443
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: being just growing up. So I mean, I know what

444
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: I can do in a football field, like I believe

445
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: to myself. That's no secret. Um I wasn't really satisfied

446
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: because I know what I can do. Like I've just

447
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: been I've just been off the field. I mean I've

448
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: like havn't been healthy. So I always had confidence in

449
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: my ability. I always knew what I can do how

450
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,640
Speaker 1: to do it. It just about me just being available

451
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: and showing on the field and doing that existent rape.

452
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: But um man, it was just it was just I

453
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: was just blessed and thankful just to be back on

454
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: the field and playing as many steps as I did.

455
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, unfortunately my career just been I've

456
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: just been hurt. So you know, I just a lot

457
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: of fuel, you know, and I'm just excited to be

458
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: playing football again. Really, you know, Rashand it's one of

459
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: those things that is so unique because this is something

460
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: that has been completely different and new for you. You

461
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: haven't dealt with that, and so you know, this has

462
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: been you know, somewhat of an ongoing thing, and you know,

463
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 1: you can hear the frustration about, you know, having to

464
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: deal with all that and finally feeling like you're healthy

465
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: and ready to go and showing what you really really

466
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: can do and what you're really all about. How big,

467
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 1: how big of a transition was that for you, you know,

468
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: dealing with all that to now being in this position

469
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: and having this opportunity with four games remaining here in

470
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Speaker 1: this season. I mean, well, you know, every game is

471
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: important to us, no matter you know, what I do

472
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: or anybody else does. I mean, as long as we win,

473
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: I think that's the main goal. And we still believe,

474
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, despite whatever's going on, you know, in this

475
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: world or whatever's happening, you know, we still got beliefs

476
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: and you know, we still to go out and you know,

477
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: just compete at a high level every week. But um,

478
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: you know, that's that's part of the that's part of

479
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: the game we play. You know. Uh, nobody said to

480
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: me before i've gotten drafted or you know, before I

481
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: became became here, like, oh, you're gonna have like I

482
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 1: hope and pray you have an injury, you know, free career.

483
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's part of the game we play. You know,

484
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: we know the consequences that come with it, but it's

485
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: just all about how we get up and how we

486
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: react to it. And you know, um, I thought it

487
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: was kind of hard for me the first time because

488
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: like I've never um torn anything and my body or

489
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: had anything to be done, you know, repaired on. So

490
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know that process or I didn't know,

491
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: so it was tough for me at first. But then again,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, we got support, you got motivation from teammates, family,

493
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, et cetera. It all works out. No, I

494
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: blinked together, and um again, I'm thankful and I'm just

495
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: happy to keep just be able to contribute and play.

496
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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Huddle with Dave Woyman, Jay Keeps,

497
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: and Stacy Ross. We're talking with running back Rashad Penny,

498
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: coming off a career high day sixteen carries, one hundred

499
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: and thirty seven yards. Rashad, you had two touchdowns. I know,

500
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: you're on the road, so I don't know if it

501
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: works quite the same. Were you able to keep both

502
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: touchdown balls and take them home? Yeah? Okay, good? I

503
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: was worried for okay good. Oh okay, my turn. All right.

504
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: Here here's an odd ball question, Rashad. You're probably tired

505
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: of answering questions about football. We got Christmas coming up

506
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: as a as a kid. What was your favorite Christmas

507
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: present that you received that was the most memorable? My favorite?

508
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: I used to have hot wheel cars. I used to

509
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: have a hot wheel collection, and you know, I used

510
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: to have probably over like in the fifteen uh like

511
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: little wheels collection things that come with it, and I

512
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: used to have like about ten of those full of cars.

513
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: So I think that was one of my biggest things,

514
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: was hot wheels and always getting the tracks and you know,

515
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: trying to race against somebody. I was just so competitive

516
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: as a kid, So I used to like that even

517
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: with hot wheels, you were out there, I'm gonna kick

518
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: your butt exactly, just rolling them on the ground and

519
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, seeing who goes far the furthest So how

520
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: it used to be fun to me. That's awesome. My

521
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: five year old is into that. Right now. So that's

522
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: that's awesome, Rushot. One of the things that you talked

523
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Speaker 1: about is your relationship that you have with Chris Carson.

524
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Speaker 1: And you know, during some of the struggles in the

525
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: adversity that you were going through, you know, Chris was

526
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: there for you and he was there, you know, super

527
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: supportive and and all that. What has this been what

528
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: has this process been like? As you see now Chris

529
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: you know, on the flip side dealing with his own

530
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: injury in his own battle. Uh, you know, have you

531
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to you know, flip rolls here and

532
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: be there for him? Um, you know he my first

533
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: day here, I think Chris accepted me right away. I

534
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: think literally after I got drafted, the first message I

535
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: have was from Chris. And from there it's like we bonded.

536
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: Um definitely with men and him, football is like life

537
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: is bigger than football, and um, you know that's like

538
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: literally someone you know, we can we just have a

539
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: relationship that like I think it's like pretty cool and

540
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: pretty tight. And um, you know, I I tried. I

541
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: encourage him as much as I can, as much as

542
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: he did with me. I mean every day we're texting,

543
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: I'm checking in, you know, seeing how he's doing, you know,

544
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: wishing him well with surgery. I know, I know just

545
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: who he is and how hard he worked. I'm I'm

546
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: not even phazed. He's going to be back, and um,

547
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think all the running backs just being

548
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: there for him, you know, just sitting in a group

549
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: message and you know, just sending each other message, encouraging

550
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: each other, uplifting. You know, he's an amazing guy. You know,

551
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: he's done the same thing for all of us is Um,

552
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: it could be a little toe injury, pretty sure, Chris

553
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: will be the first one to you know, just always

554
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: just give you the right words and you know, just

555
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: tell you the right things. And I always wish my

556
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: best team. You know, he's gonna I think he's gonna

557
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: bounce back, and um, I think he's gonna do well.

558
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: He's going to be the same Chris Carson so and

559
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: it always just being consistent. So he's good. I think, Yeah,

560
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: that's awesome. The special bond that you guys have or

561
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: shot you know onto you know, this week it's a

562
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: huge matchup. Man, It's a big game for a lot

563
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: of different reasons. Obviously, you guys are trying to take

564
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: this one and oh and go every single week and

565
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: win every single week. But obviously this one there's there's

566
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: a lot at stake here. How excited are you for

567
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: this matchup? And uh, you know how big of a

568
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: battle do you really see this one? Uh? Just take

569
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: a week by week. I mean that That's been my

570
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: whole approach since playing football. I mean, I never try

571
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: to hype up anything, you know, just go out there

572
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: and just stick to the game, playing to execute. I mean,

573
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: I think that's the number one thing. And then you

574
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: know it's always trying. She's always going out there just

575
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: trying to win. I mean, I believe, you know, and

576
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: everybody else in this building believe we can do what

577
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: we can we can do what what's the what we

578
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: can do? And that's something that I'm going out there

579
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: to la and just playing a game and you know,

580
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: just coming back and just doing the right things. I

581
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: think we have a chance. All Right, awesome stuff. Rashad

582
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: and Jacob asked some great questions, but I think purposely

583
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: tried to extend those so I wouldn't be able to

584
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: ask you whether or not Rudolph was a Top three

585
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: Christmas song. We've been fighting about it all day. You

586
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: can reserve your answer. You don't. You don't have to

587
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: tell us now. But we'll have to get back to

588
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: you on that one. He is running back. Rashad, Penny Rashad,

589
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure to talk to you. I have

590
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: a great game this weekend, man, Thank you. I appreciate

591
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: it you too. Thanks for what a nice guy? Yes, man,

592
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: I like I love that about him. He's a very

593
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: thoughtful guy. What makes you think he couldn't answered the

594
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: Rudolph question? Well, because we're against the clock here. We're

595
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: against the clock here. But uh, but but I feel

596
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: like the answer would be no. I feel it in

597
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: my bones that he wouldn't agree with you not a

598
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: top three song. Curtis is going to be staring me

599
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: down here. Okay, we're gonna listen. We're gonna we're gonna

600
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: discuss this later when we wrap up the final thoughts

601
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: for the show. We'll have to get back to it.

602
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be joined by wide receiver penny Hartnecks don't

603
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: go anywhere, all right, Colin an audible here on the

604
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: huddle with Dave Wyman, Ja Keeps and Stacy Ross, penny

605
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Hart had to cancel, and what we're gonna do is

606
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: instead take you live to Russell Wilson, he is speaking

607
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: with reporters. Take a listen. How worrisome. I guess this

608
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: whole whole week then, And I said, I feel like

609
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: you're just trying to avoid the landline every day you get.

610
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: I feel like for the past two years, we've been

611
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: trying to avoid everything happening. You know, it's it's it's

612
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: really it's been. It's um, you know, all jokes aside,

613
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: it's pretty serious matter. Just in generalize what we've been

614
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: saying for a long time, everybody's been saying. Um, you know,

615
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: I think the reality of of covid is is, you know,

616
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: it can affect anybody you know, and it can impact

617
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: anybody and everything else. And so you know, I'm praying

618
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: for Guy Tyler obviously that he feels better every day

619
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: and if you know, if anything's going on with him

620
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and everything else. So I just think that you know,

621
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: anybody who's gone through it, who has faced it, who's

622
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: going to face to anybody who's battling with it right

623
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: now currently, Um, you know, I really believe that. Um.

624
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully at some point we'll come come out

625
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: of this and the other end of it, and just

626
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: praying that they can stay healthy. You change through ramp

627
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: up any of your own precautions. I've always been taking

628
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: precautions along the along the way. UM. You know, obviously

629
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: we we uh we test here and then UM we

630
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: test at the house and everything else all the time,

631
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: and and everything else constantly, you know, every day pretty

632
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: much at our house. You know, people anybody who comes

633
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: near or gone anywhere anything else. So it's one of

634
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: those things that UM, you know, it's been part of

635
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 1: our lifestyles, has changed all of our lives in so

636
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: many different ways. UM. And uh you know, I pray

637
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: that UM every day that we can get better and

638
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Speaker 1: trust trying to find better ways to keep each other safe.

639
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Speaker 1: I think what's super important as we all wear a

640
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Speaker 1: mask as much as possible, UM, stay away from you know,

641
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Speaker 1: people as much as possible. UM. But at the same time,

642
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Speaker 1: you know, just knowing that everybody has family members and

643
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Speaker 1: everybody has loved ones and UM, some elderly, some young,

644
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 1: Some people have asthma, some people have you know, may

645
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Speaker 1: have had cancer, you know, different circumstances. You know, so

646
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Speaker 1: everything is um, you know a lot of people's lives

647
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: are over the line, you know, and so we have

648
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: to protect everybody as much as possible. You look at

649
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the game from Sunday, how did Rasha look different in

650
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Speaker 1: the style of running versus pous. I thought RuSHA Opinnion

651
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Speaker 1: did an amazing job running the football. I think the

652
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Speaker 1: first play the game really set the tone how he

653
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: ran the ball. He put his shoulder down, um. And

654
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: then shortly after that the same thing again. I think

655
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Speaker 1: it's the second and third play after that. I mean,

656
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Speaker 1: just he set the tone physically, Um, he used the

657
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Speaker 1: speed in his hour, which he has. You know, both

658
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: of those things at a high level. I thought that

659
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: was very evident, um, And so I thought he ran

660
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Speaker 1: the ball extremely well. You WoT for a downhill for you,

661
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: I would say that he's always looked downhill, but I

662
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: think he looked super decisive. I think that this moment

663
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: he's been waiting forward to really get back out there

664
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Speaker 1: and show what he's been doing at practice and really

665
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: be able to have that opportunity to shine. And he

666
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: did a tremendous job shining. The other day. We got

667
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: to do it again, you know. That's the thing. You know,

668
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: every day we step out in the field get to

669
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Speaker 1: do it again, and I know he's ready for that

670
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Speaker 1: challenge and he's looking forward to it. Rus. What's it

671
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: been like for you watching Tyler Lockey get into a

672
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Speaker 1: thousand year OD season under his belt and then knowing

673
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Speaker 1: today that he might not be available for you this

674
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: weekend him? Well, I think for Tyler um watching just

675
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Speaker 1: Tyler be so explosive over the years and a little

676
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: place he's made. He works at his game every day.

677
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best receivers in the

678
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Speaker 1: National Football League. I think DK Metcalf is an dust

679
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Speaker 1: receiver in the league. And so I'm fortunate to be

680
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Speaker 1: able to have two extremely extremely talented players. But they

681
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Speaker 1: love the game. You know, they love the game. They

682
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: spend so much time on it every day and they're

683
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: wildly obsessed with the process in the game. And so

684
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: they're throwing those two guys, you know something great's going

685
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: to happen. And so with Tyler, he's just been making

686
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: amazing plays for his whole career. I think he's the

687
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: best toe tapper in the in the league. You know,

688
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: he's got an amazing ability to do it. And so

689
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Speaker 1: I just try to give him a chance and let

690
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Speaker 1: him do his thing. The conversations with Aaron Donald not

691
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: necessarily fall in the field during the game, and he's

692
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Speaker 1: had conversations with him outside of the game day, not

693
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Speaker 1: too much. I mean, he's so focused. I'm so focused.

694
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Speaker 1: We're always busy. But when we see each other, you know,

695
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Speaker 1: if we ever see each other and everything else, we'll

696
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: definitely you know, say hello to each other and everything else.

697
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Speaker 1: He's such a tremendous player. I mean, I think, uh,

698
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Speaker 1: you know, Aaron's been able to make Aaron Donald's been

699
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Speaker 1: on to make so many plays over the years, just

700
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Speaker 1: throughout his career, um, and I think that he's such

701
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Speaker 1: a factor. He watched the game the other night. He's

702
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: just such a factor in that game. And so for

703
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: us to be able to neutralize him as much as possible,

704
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Speaker 1: slow him down, He's gonna make his plays, you know,

705
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: and he just you know, he just does. You knows

706
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: out he's a superstar. You know. I can make his

707
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: plays it here and there, but to be able to

708
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Speaker 1: make sure it's not a major factor is always the key. Out.

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Speaker 1: How's he feeling, Yeah, I spoken Tyler. Tyler and I

710
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, called each other earlier that I've been obviously

711
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Speaker 1: here busy, you know, with meetings and everything else. But

712
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Speaker 1: he's feeling pretty good. Do you do you hold out?

713
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Speaker 1: I hope he's gonna play. Are you preferring your mind?

714
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Speaker 1: I'm hoping that this potential who knows we'll see this

715
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Speaker 1: week felt and looked with all the seems like there's

716
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Speaker 1: an added tighten sense of what where it iss with everything?

717
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Speaker 1: How is that looking to? Um? I think here, you know,

718
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Speaker 1: we've done a tremendous job throughout the two years of

719
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: COVID just being extremely careful. Um. You know, we've been

720
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Speaker 1: fortunate not to have, you know, really anything along the way.

721
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Maybe a couple of things here or there, but um,

722
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Speaker 1: we've been really you know, conscientious of each other, teller's

723
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: families and just our city and trying to be as

724
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Speaker 1: as careful as possible. And and even when you are

725
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: as you know, older careful a guy like Tyler, you know,

726
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, something could happening. We never know,

727
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: you know, So, um, this thing's in the air, and um,

728
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: it's all around us, and so we have to be

729
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: very conscientious of washing our hands, you know, making sure

730
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: we're wearing our masks and pretty much at all times, UM,

731
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: and just caring for each other and doing everything that

732
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: we can possible, you know, um, you know, and that's

733
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Speaker 1: that's where the vaccine is so important, and booster shots

734
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Speaker 1: and all that and you know, and UM, if you know,

735
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's gonna stop it. It just means,

736
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Speaker 1: you know, something happens. Hopefully it can help us, you know,

737
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: heal better and feel better and everything else. But you guys, yeah,

738
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Speaker 1: I've been vaccinated, um both times or whatever vaccinated, and

739
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: then I've also been taken the booster shot as well.

740
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: If Tyloin doesn't play. How big of a loss is

741
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: that anytime you don't have Tyler in there. It's it's

742
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: always tough, you know, you always want your guy in there.

743
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: But we have tremendous receivers. Obviously, DK Um such a star, um,

744
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, and then we have so many other guys

745
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: that can step in. These guys practice your butts off

746
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: every day. Guys like Penny Hart, Guys like Aaron Fool

747
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: or Cody Thompson, these guys, you know, Dscrow, These guys

748
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: practice at the highest level every day. Freddie Swains of

749
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: the world, you know, and so I have all the

750
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: confidence and the guys that we have the last game,

751
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: but we'll have a Gerald this time against the Rooms

752
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: for years. Yeah, I mean, obviously Gerald Everett is as

753
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: a freaking nature how he's been on a score and

754
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: catch the football and make plays for us. You know,

755
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: we want to be able to get eighty one in football. Obviously,

756
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: he's really really talented. I love his approach. Every day

757
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: he comes with the right approach. He's relaxed, he's calm,

758
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: he understands the game, he understands what we want to do,

759
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: how we want to do it. I thought he had

760
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: a great game you know the other day. Obviously calling

761
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: that touchdown was huge for us. And he's just you

762
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: knows how to find the end zone already yesterday You've

763
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: got quarterbacks on either side of the smash up the

764
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: legend throw a DP ball, but they do it very

765
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: different way. So you've got the boot ball. Matthew Stafford

766
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: is a little bit more on the road. Who taught

767
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: me to throw the Why is that your style of

768
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: throwing the DP? Just? I think, you know, obviously Matthew's

769
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: got such a tremendous ability to throw the ball. Um,

770
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, put it where he needs to put it.

771
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: He's having a great year, I think, for you know,

772
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: and I've always loved watching him. Um, I think we

773
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for each other, and uh,

774
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, I I have a lot of respect for

775
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: Matthew Matthew Stafford outside of the game, you know, him

776
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: and his wife and just all the things they've gone through. Um,

777
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's uh my Goach Children's Hospital.

778
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 1: I think about the families and people, and I think

779
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: about even Matthew's family and and his wife and just

780
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: what she's been through. He's resilient. You know. You can

781
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: tell he's a resilient guy. And so that's what I

782
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: respect about him in his game. In terms of the

783
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: deep ball, you know, Um, you know, I think that

784
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: uh he throws it with the best stup mobviously, and

785
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: we both obviously can put it where we need to

786
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. And uh, um, he's he's

787
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: extremely talented. I love watching him play. All Right, The

788
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: offense and the offensive line is going to have a

789
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: big test against the Rams this Sunday, So let's go

790
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: to an expert to ask him about it. We're going

791
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: in the trenches with Ray Roberts. Next, this is the

792
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We are

793
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: an hour two now of a two hour preview show

794
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: for the seahawks upcoming game against the La Rams. This

795
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: one is going to be on the road. Seahawks are

796
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: going to head back home after this, but first you

797
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: gotta get this win against an NFC West opponents. So

798
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: we are going to go in the trenches with Ray Roberts,

799
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: just as we do every single Thursday on the huddle.

800
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: So we're going to start, obviously with an offensive focus.

801
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: It'll be a big challenge against the Rams. Ray, tell

802
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: me what we need to know. Let's start with this

803
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: Rams defensive line and the challenge the Seahawks will have. Well,

804
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: in the past, even when the Seahawks for had a

805
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: good offensive line and they're rocking and rolling, the Rams

806
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: defensive line has always given them problems. And I think

807
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: a lot of it. Obviously you have Aaron Donald in

808
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: the middle, who's just a beast, but also they've always

809
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: had like a very athletic deep and so they move around,

810
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: they don't stand in one spot, they slant, they run games,

811
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: all those different kinds of thing. So I think that

812
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: has great a challenges for the Seahawks offensive line over

813
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: the years, and now they have um from Denver von

814
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: Miller and then Floyd I think last year he had

815
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: well sacks against talks to something like that. Yeah, that's

816
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: going to be something to deal with. So I like

817
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: the energy that they had coming off the Texas game,

818
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: but obviously this defensive line is a different beast to

819
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: deal with. Well, they also got that Greg Gaines guy.

820
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: And I was talking to DeMarco Farr down there Ray

821
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: who does their sidelines, and he said that guy's playing

822
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: really well too. So I mean, I don't know, is

823
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Speaker 1: there a is there a defensive line that has more

824
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: talent because they have it both inside that Sebastian Day

825
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: is a pretty good player. I don't think he's going

826
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: to be gained because of the COVID, but they've got

827
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: inside and outside the edge rush rushers if you as

828
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: you've mentioned, and then von Miller he hasn't even gotten

829
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: a sack yet as a ram. So yeah, it just

830
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: it just seems like they just keep coming. Well, first

831
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Speaker 1: of all, great to hear you back, big Dave, and

832
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: uh and better and uh hear you're back on the

833
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: on the air and everything. So I'm glad you got

834
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: to all of that. But the one thing I like

835
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: about the Rams defensive line is that everyone kind of

836
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: knows what their role is. Like a lot of times

837
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: you have defensive defensive units that have a bunch of talent,

838
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: but everybody wants to be the guy and so then

839
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: they tend to try to do more than what they've

840
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: been asked to do and it can kind of mess

841
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: things up. But the Rams, they all seem to be

842
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: locked in too. They know that Aaron Donald is the

843
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: alpha male and he's gonna you know, they're gonna try

844
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: to get him free more than more times than not.

845
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Speaker 1: But with all those other pieces, it makes it really

846
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Speaker 1: hard for you to thedn't say, Okay, we're just gonna

847
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: double team Aaron Donald on every single play, because especially

848
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks offensive line, there's there's chances for a

849
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: guy like Leonard Floyd to get loose or a guy

850
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: for like Miller to get loose. So it's gonna be

851
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: really interesting how they pick and choose when they double

852
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and when they take their chances that manage

853
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: him up so that maybe they can help or take

854
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: advantage of other places. Ray, you bring up a great

855
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: point from that aspect of the defensive line and how

856
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: you know fluid it is across the board. Aaron Donald

857
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: could play defensive end at one point, he could play

858
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: you know, three technique, one technique. You just all over

859
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: the place and that makes your protection plan extremely difficult.

860
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: So Ray, the easy answer is to say, hey, run

861
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: the football, run the football, muck it up. That's what

862
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 1: you gotta do, right, But from a very simplistic point

863
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: of view in you in your watching of you know,

864
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, because I think that's exactly where

865
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: this game is gonna be won and lost. How do

866
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: you go about it? I mean, is it just simply

867
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna line up and try to bully you. Is

868
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: there a certain way, a certain scheme that it seems

869
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: to be more favorable. I mean, it's just there's so

870
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: much more than just saying, well, you gotta run the football.

871
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: I think Ray gonna go with bully. I was just

872
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: about to say, Man, I need to like have Jake

873
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: as like my day like inspiration coach, because every time

874
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: I get on this call and you start talking off

875
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: as the line, Jake, I want to run through the

876
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: freaking window. Like as soon as you said the answers

877
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: run the ball and like Bully, Like soon as Bully

878
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: came up, I'm like, yeah, that's what we should do.

879
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: But in the times when Seattle has had some success

880
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: against this defense, it's when they have run the ball.

881
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: And the one thing I the one thing I watched

882
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: last week, and you can say, like, well, obviously the

883
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Texas defensive line. It's not the Rams defensive line, but

884
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: the mindset that I saw, and I think the thing

885
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: that's crazy is that after the first couple of runs,

886
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 1: when I think when the offensive line realized how committed

887
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: Rashard Penny was to run in the football, it changed

888
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: their mindset of how they wanted to give him opportunities

889
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: to run the football. So there was more grind, there

890
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: was more strange, there was more finished, there was more

891
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: want to, There was more will, There was more, like

892
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: you said, just mucking it up. And it wasn't pretty

893
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 1: every time, but everybody was working extra hard to give

894
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: this dude a chance to run the ball to tight ends.

895
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: We're doing that. Uh. D Esperts had two great blocks

896
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: on both of those touchdown runs. So everybody in the

897
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: offense was committed to having this dude be successful, and

898
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: I think they and I think that was a result

899
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: of Rashard Penny not avoiding hits. And there were the

900
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: times where he just could run out of bounds or

901
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: get down or whatever. He did that, but when it

902
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: was appropriate for him to take you to get behind

903
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: his paths and run through people, he did that too.

904
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: And that's not what you've seen a lot in Rashard

905
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: Penny since he's been here. So as he felt comfortable

906
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: being who was Shard Penny was, it allowed the offense

907
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: to be like, you know what, like we're gonna we're

908
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: gonna let it all hang loose for this, and so

909
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: I think that's what it has to be for the Rams.

910
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to take the good with

911
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: the bad, but stay committed to running the ball. It

912
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: may not be pretty every time every block like Jake

913
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: Current like not everything he did was beautiful. Like sometimes

914
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, I don't know how you actually actually

915
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: did that, but you did it. You know. Yes, definitely

916
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: it has to be that way. Yeah, it definitely does.

917
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: And so my next question Ray is I definitely saw

918
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: Rashade Penny be more aggressive in his running style in

919
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: certain situations, and I definitely get what you're saying in

920
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: terms of picking and choosing. I think this is a

921
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: big challenge for Rashade Penny. We know the home run

922
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: hitter or the type of running back that he can be,

923
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't necessarily proven that he can be consistent in

924
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: terms of getting the ugly yards, the yards after contact.

925
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: Do you think he can do that? I think he can.

926
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: I think if he can, if he's playing without fear

927
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: of being injured, I think that he will run hard

928
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: when it's when it's time for him to run hard

929
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: and try to get those extra yardage. And then those

930
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: times where he's going to be a little lighter on

931
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: his feet and wait for a block to develop so

932
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 1: he can maybe get a bigger home run hit. I

933
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: think he'll do that because that's what I saw. Like

934
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: even if you if you watched the replay when he

935
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: scored his first touchdown, I think he was surprised, Like

936
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: I think he got into the end like that's why

937
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't figure out what to celebrate. It's just like fight,

938
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: Did I flex on him? Shall I do some kind

939
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: of dance? Should Should I jump into stands like. You

940
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: can just tell he was like, oh crap, I made it,

941
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: you know, and uh and so. But after that his

942
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: confidence grew, and the offensive lines confidence grew, and they

943
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: just they all have to be committed to saying, you

944
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: know what, you're playing against Aaron Donald, one of the

945
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: best to ever play the game. He's gonna make his plays,

946
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: but you can't allow his playmaking or his one or

947
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: two or three plays he made to diminish your will

948
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: to make this thing work. And so I think that's

949
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: what they have to do. Hey, I'm curious what you

950
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: think a bit about the depth that the offensive line

951
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: has right now. They could be playing without Brandon Shell.

952
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: He's going to be kind of a wait and see

953
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: this week in all likelihoods. So curious Ray to know

954
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: what you think about their depth specifically at tackle, but

955
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: just along the line right now. Well, I mean it's

956
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: it's really thin. I think Jake, you know, obviously, is

957
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 1: out there doing the best he can. Sometimes you're gonna

958
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: lose some stuff in pass protection. I don't know that

959
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, the most athletic dude to be over

960
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: there against a guy like the von Miller or Floyd

961
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: so they're gonna have to do things to help that way. Uh.

962
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: And then with the guard positions, hopefully those guys can

963
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: can stay healthy because when you have to then move

964
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: the tackle in the guard and put foresights out a

965
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: tackle who doesn't have a whole lot of reps, I

966
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: think then you really really do start to decline along

967
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: the offensive line. So I think, you know, Jake is

968
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: a good utility guy to work with, not not because

969
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: he has all the skill set, but the dude is

970
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: just he's just like a launch pail dude. Like he's

971
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 1: he's a guy you know, if you're gonna get in

972
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: a foxhole and have to fight your way out. He

973
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: seems like a dude that you want to have in

974
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: a foxhole, and that's always a good thing. Hey, Ray,

975
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, one of the things I've been saying about Penny,

976
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: I think I said it to him a couple of

977
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: years ago that I wish you would run people over more,

978
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, and he's not gonna listen to me, but um,

979
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: but for you as an offensive lineman, did you did

980
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: you ever have an experience with, like with a running

981
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: back where you're like, hey, dude, this is what you

982
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: need to do, man, this is where you're at your best.

983
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever kind of kind of coached running backs up?

984
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: Did you? Did you ever? You know, because I feel like,

985
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, everybody loves encouragement. Yeah. Well, I mean when

986
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: I played here, and you know, we had Chris Warren

987
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: and Chris Chris Warren was six two and two hundred

988
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: and thirty some pounds, but he was more of a

989
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: glider of a runner, more of a kind of bounce

990
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: it to the outside type. Do. But I had known

991
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Chris since college because he played one year with me

992
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: at Virginia before he transferred to a smaller school. Uh,

993
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: And so I've known I had known Chris for a while,

994
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: so I had a different relationship with him. And so

995
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, there were times I'm like Chris, like, man,

996
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: like we like you ran out of pounds with like

997
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: one yard before the yard marker, Man, go get that

998
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: first down, you know, like things like that, get your

999
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: past down. Now. When I got to Detroit, they had

1000
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: this dude named Barry Sanders. Yeah, I didn't tell him much.

1001
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: Tints Barry, you would have this thought in your brain

1002
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: and then you'd look down and just saying a number twenty,

1003
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 1: you go like, yeah, I'm gonna keep that one to myself.

1004
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: And Ray was telling him, hey, man, you got it

1005
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: all wrong with this juke and people. That's no good.

1006
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: You put your head down. How's that serving you? Burry? Like,

1007
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 1: nothing's happening, Like you're not gaining a two thousand yards

1008
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: in this season. But you can be so like yeah,

1009
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: but he wasn't. He was not the guy to take

1010
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: that too, you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah,

1011
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: Like and with Chris Warren it was different than the customer.

1012
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Relationship with him was different. Um, and I had known

1013
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: him for a long long time, even before I came here,

1014
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: so it was easier to have that conversation. But with Barry, nah,

1015
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: you're not having that conversation. He might look at you

1016
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: like you're crazy. Good stuff, as always from Ray Roberts.

1017
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: We go in the trenches with Ray every single week

1018
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: on the Huddle. You can also hear Ray on the

1019
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 1: Seahawks pre and postgame show this Sunday, Have good weekend?

1020
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: Dat all right? The voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel,

1021
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: joins us. Next, This is the huddle, don't go anywhere.

1022
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: This is the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay keeps in

1023
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. We are joined now by the voice of

1024
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks himself, Steve Rabel Raves. Last week you got

1025
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: to catch a break, no Wyman. This week, unfortunately he's back,

1026
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: So it's not just me, Jake. I know, I know

1027
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: it was going to be the dynamic trio. But Dave's

1028
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: back now. Well, I you know, I will admit that

1029
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was lovely seeing his fresh face today

1030
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: as we did our work this morning, did our taping,

1031
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: and it will be lovely to see him in the booth. Wait, Raves,

1032
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: are you telling me that you missed him? Are you

1033
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: telling you miss Dave? I didn't go that far. I

1034
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: just said it was lovely to see him this time.

1035
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, Raves, I think you missed Dave. I am.

1036
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: I might have a little spot in my in my

1037
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: dark cold heart for for Dave. Well, I'll say this,

1038
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: he would not stop texting me. Okay, I'm like, okay enough,

1039
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: Steve like more than my wife, Y Rabel. Uh. We

1040
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: were Obviously we've already been talking about went over the Texans,

1041
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: but we're looking ahead to the Rams. It seems like

1042
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: the Rams have always had the upper hand against the Seahawks. Now,

1043
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: the Seahawks have gotten a few wins against Sean mcvagh,

1044
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: but normally they've kind of had their number. What's been

1045
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: the key in the times that they have won, well, Stacy,

1046
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: when you go back to nineteen seventy six, let me know, uh,

1047
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: you know, the key for the Rams is there. In

1048
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: my estimation, they put you in positions where they they

1049
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: force you to make plays sometimes or or do some

1050
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: things that you don't want to do. And quite frankly,

1051
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: in this situation, it's they do do enough to stop

1052
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: the run, or at least they have, and they force

1053
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: you into throwing the ball, and that forces you into

1054
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: the teeth of their defense. That's when they are at

1055
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: their toughest, when they're rushing the pastor now you know

1056
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: they've they've found a way to operate offensively with kind

1057
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: of different a little bit different schemes and different players,

1058
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 1: but they still seem to be able to move the ball.

1059
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: The real key I think for the Seahawks is to

1060
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: keep Stafford and those guys on the sidelines as much

1061
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: as possible, which means your defense has got to go

1062
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: out there and make plays, shut down that run and

1063
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: then find a way to get off the field so

1064
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: that your offense can can get on it. I mean,

1065
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of football one on one. But this

1066
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: is one of those teams that they've got so many

1067
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: good players in so many spots. It's tough to pick

1068
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: just one. Yeah, and Rabs, I mean it's it's unbelievable

1069
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: when you look at like Cooper Cup. I mean, if

1070
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: I could take one guy out of this lineup, I mean,

1071
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: would it be Aaron Donald? Would or would it be

1072
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup? Would it be? Do you think Stafford has

1073
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: been like the huge difference that's been on offense. I mean,

1074
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: where do you go with a team like this if

1075
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: you could take one guy away? Yeah? I mean they

1076
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl with goffin quarterback, for crying

1077
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: out loud, but they had Aaron Donald and Cooper Cup

1078
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: doing their thing, along with a whole bunch of other

1079
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: players as well, really good, really good athletes. I don't

1080
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: know which one that you want to take out, you know,

1081
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: as a receiver, I'd like to think that, oh, they

1082
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: can't win a game without Cooper Cup, but they've lost

1083
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: Robert Woods and all they did now was throw a

1084
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: little more to Cup and Woods was kind of the

1085
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: go to guy for the last couple of years. You

1086
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: know me, I can't get done talking about Robert Woods.

1087
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm glad he's not playing, but I love to see

1088
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: that guy play. But Cup is really something special and

1089
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 1: and so you know, we talked about it when we

1090
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: taped our program today. And you know, the Seahawks. You

1091
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: can't if you're Ken Norton junior and you know this day,

1092
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: you can't just rely on one defense. You really have

1093
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: to mix things up. You can't give those guys on

1094
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: offense a Stafford, a quarterback like Stafford who's got the

1095
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: experience to kind of get a read on you and

1096
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, here's what they do. They're gonna do

1097
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: this all day, and this is what we're gonna do. No,

1098
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 1: but you, I think, have to mix in in some places.

1099
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: You got to get up in a guy like Cooper

1100
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Cup's grill. You got to get up there and man

1101
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: handle him a little bit. He's bigger than he looks.

1102
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: He's six two. I mean he's in that way. He's

1103
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's large at esque, hands wise and route

1104
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 1: rise but bigger. So he's a he's a tough guy

1105
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: to deal with and then of course on the other side,

1106
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you just you pray for him to go

1107
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: take a water break or something. Although running right at

1108
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: him again, We've talked about it many times, seems to

1109
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: be the best offense against that defense, you know, Raves.

1110
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 1: It was awesome to watch Rushad Penny, you know, do

1111
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: his thing against the Houston Texans. This is gonna be

1112
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: an entirely different animal going up against the Rams. What

1113
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: do you expect the result is gonna be. Do you

1114
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have a successful game or do you

1115
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: think this is going to be more similar to what

1116
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: the game was like against the forty nine Ers a

1117
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I tend to think maybe the

1118
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: former or the ladder, I mean, the forty nine ers contest.

1119
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: I just think, obviously the Rams have some better athletes.

1120
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: First of all, on the defensive front um you know

1121
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: there there they play, they seem to play together as

1122
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: a group really well. They revolve around number ninety nine obviously.

1123
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: But Leonard Floyd on the outside, even though the lists

1124
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: him as an outside linebacker, might as well be a

1125
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: stand up defensive end because he comes two thirds of

1126
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: the time he rushes he's he's long, he's lean, he's

1127
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: he's got those big hands to get up there and

1128
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: knock passes down. Um, you know, I think that that

1129
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: they're just in that way, they're there. It's going to

1130
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: be a much more difficult test for the Seahawks than

1131
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: it was against the forty nine ers. That said, you know,

1132
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: this is a Seahawks team that has beaten the Rams

1133
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: in the past. So it sort of depends. I think

1134
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: it's going to come down to, oftentimes, when it comes

1135
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: down to in most games, how's he offensive line doing.

1136
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: Are they going to be able to open some holes

1137
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: and can Rashad if there's not a big hole there,

1138
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: can he find a little bit of a crease that

1139
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: he can make some positive yards. And the more of

1140
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: those kind of things you can do and keep beating

1141
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: on that defensive front, I think, the better your opportunities

1142
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: to then pop some big plays, both a run on

1143
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: the run side and throwing over the top. Hey, Steve

1144
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett coming off a phenomenal game. I know he's

1145
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: on the reserve COVID list so entered protocol. We'll see

1146
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: whether or not he can play this weekend. But just overall,

1147
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: what's he meant to this to this team. Oh, I don't.

1148
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. You can't put a number

1149
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: on it. I don't think Stacy. I just think he's

1150
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: he's such a great pro. I know I sound like

1151
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: probably Pete here talking, but I think I would also

1152
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: echo half of the coaches or three quarters of the

1153
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: coaches in the National Football League who who have watched Tyler.

1154
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: They see him on film, they see how he handles

1155
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: his business. Uh, he is. He is such a pro.

1156
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: He is such a terrific just from a standpoint of

1157
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: the physical standpoint of a receiver, he is. I think

1158
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Pete has used the word graceful. He is that he

1159
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: is tough, way tougher than a lot of guys at

1160
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: that position, because he takes some serious shots and he

1161
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 1: gets back up off the ground. His hands obviously are terrific.

1162
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: He's a great route runner. He's faster than he looks,

1163
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: and he is really fast, so that that gives you

1164
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: a sense of just trying to cover him. You think

1165
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: you got him covered, and all of a sudden he

1166
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: kicks it into another gear and gets past you. And

1167
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: this is something too. This was kind of new to me.

1168
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: In the last generation of receivers Back in the day,

1169
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: we didn't kind of run two or three different speeds

1170
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: on routes. You had to get to a point and Jake,

1171
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: you know this. You had to put your foot in

1172
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: the ground and look back to the quarterback, come back

1173
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: to him on a comeback route, bend it back to

1174
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: him on an out route. Now, you know, you come

1175
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: off the line at maybe three quarters speed and then

1176
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: you cut it to full speed and to you to

1177
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: your break, and then you come back to half speed.

1178
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, how do these guys do this? I don't

1179
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 1: understand it. But whatever it is, Tyler can do it.

1180
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: And he's amazing. All right. He is the voice of

1181
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Steve Rabel will obviously be on the call

1182
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: this weekend. Raves, good talking to you, as always every

1183
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: single week on the huddle. We'll talk to you next week.

1184
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Thank you, Stacy. I appreciate it. The rest of you

1185
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: guys took all right. Guys, we're stepping across enemy lines.

1186
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: I've seen so many questions about what it means with

1187
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: so many RAMS players also in COVID protocol, who's going

1188
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: to be available, and maybe more importantly, what weaknesses, if

1189
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: any are there for this Seahawks team to exploit when

1190
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: they face La Well, I can think of no better

1191
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: person to ask. We're gonna ask Rams. Play by play

1192
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: announcer JB. Long Next, don't go anywhere. This is the

1193
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross. We

1194
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: are stepping across enemy lines, joined now by Ramps. Play

1195
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: by play announcer JB. Long. JB. How's it going, Stacy, Dave, Jake,

1196
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: thank you for the invitation. I wish I had it

1197
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: to answer that question, but quite honestly, it's not going great,

1198
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: and I know we're living it on both ends. Yeah, no,

1199
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: that's it. I mean, the Rams have been hit pretty

1200
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: hard this week. I mean, what's the latest you can

1201
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: tell us about the status of some of those bigger

1202
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: names on the COVID list. I've got absolutely nothing, unfortunately.

1203
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: Well it's it's it's really tough, you know, and the

1204
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks have actually been able to do a pretty good job.

1205
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: But man, it's uh and it sounds like I mean,

1206
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: and it's kind of by by chance, right JB. I mean, look,

1207
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys are following all the same protocols

1208
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: and everything down there. And they've probably been pretty dedicated,

1209
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, dedicated about it. I don't think it necessarily

1210
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: indicates anything other than that, it's just that this thing

1211
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: is just kind of takes off and has a mind

1212
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: of its own. Yeah, we're seeing that across the NFL

1213
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: and sports and society, aren't we. I've been following some

1214
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: of the NBA stories as well, and I'm reading up

1215
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: as we speak, almost about the lead kind of revising

1216
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: its policy to hopefully get to make symptomatic players who

1217
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: are testing negative back on the field soon. Or whether

1218
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: that has any expanying on this weekend's contest with the

1219
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Rams personnel, that remains to be seen.

1220
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: But at this point, I'm just stringers cross hoping that

1221
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: we're all going to be able to play that game

1222
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: and be a part of it on Sunday. Jab. One

1223
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: of the things that's been really talking on a lighter

1224
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: note here that I've really enjoyed watching is the evolution

1225
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: of Van Jefferson last year as a rookie. You could

1226
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: see that it just wasn't necessarily coming together in terms

1227
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: of just I don't know if it was playbook stuff

1228
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: or you know, the confidence overall just not getting targeted.

1229
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: But this year, midway through the season, he's really come

1230
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: alive since Robert Woods has gone down. How fun has

1231
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: it been for you guys to watch his development really grow? Yeah.

1232
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: I think back to the draft time and one of

1233
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: the RAMS personnel individuals told me that if you were

1234
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: to kind of look at a mirror image of Cooper

1235
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: Cup and Robert Woods standing together of a mirror, that

1236
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: would be Van Jefferson. I'm struggling still to this day

1237
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: to try and visualize that, but I get the sentiment

1238
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: right that he was a very nice compilation and the

1239
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: still set that the Rams already had in house, and

1240
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: sometimes it has just been a matter of opportunity for

1241
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: Van to put more of that on display. Now, it

1242
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: hasn't all been perfect, I think for a sure handed,

1243
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: solid route running receiver with symtedigree in the NFL as

1244
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: Father's a great receivers coach, or even at the time

1245
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford and me Detron going back to the Detroit,

1246
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: he's had some untimely drops and what's been cool to

1247
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: see with some of the behind the scene miked up

1248
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: moment is that Matthew Stafford and Sean and say have

1249
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: maintained their total confidence in him and continued to dial

1250
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: thing up for him, and he's almost universally capitalized on

1251
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: those second opportunities within games. Hey, JB. The Seahawks are

1252
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in when it comes to the postseason,

1253
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: and it feels like they've kind of been that way

1254
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Rams with Sean McVay kind

1255
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: of having the upper hand. But I'm just ask because

1256
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: I know that some Seahawks fans are wondering, is there

1257
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: an Achilles heel for this Rams team this year? Yeah?

1258
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean when when Matthew Stafford throws touched down to

1259
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: the other team, they haven't been pretty good. I mean,

1260
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: I hate to make this cut and drive because I

1261
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: know it's not very nuanced, but you know, they're winless

1262
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: when they lose a turnover battle and they're underfeated when

1263
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: they match it or or exceed it. So it was

1264
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: a rough November. Three games in a buye all added

1265
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: up to a calendar month without a victory, and Matthew

1266
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: had multiple turnovers in all of those games, and the defense,

1267
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: the opposing defense scored in all of those games. Now,

1268
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: those are some really good teams mixed in there, Tennessee,

1269
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and Green Bay all figure to be playoff

1270
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: teams stands currently, But apart from that, I still think

1271
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: the secret is to squeeze the opportunities at McVay and

1272
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Matthew Staffords have even going back to Jared Goffs tenure,

1273
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: when when the game gets short, when the play count

1274
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: gets short, time of possession gets tilted against the Rams,

1275
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: they tend to come out of their balance their run

1276
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: past marriage and get a little bit one sided. And

1277
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: that's typically when they faulted them too good opponents, of which,

1278
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: despite Sall's record, I certainly think the Seats are still

1279
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: capable of Jby tell us about von Miller's year so

1280
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: far as a RAM, and now I see he's got

1281
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: some tackles for losses, He's got sixty one snaps. Is

1282
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: he getting closer and closer back to being Von Miller's

1283
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: just kind of just an adjustment period for him. It's

1284
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: almost shocking if you go more than three or four

1285
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: games without a sack. Right well, the problem is having

1286
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: right now is can he beat Aaron Donald to the quarterback?

1287
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: Like I think he's got some pretty good rushes, But

1288
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: when you have a future Hall of Famer in the middle,

1289
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, exceeding his block and getting the quarterback and

1290
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: a setup and flat I think it's tough to claim

1291
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: some of those. He actually had a golden opportunity for

1292
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: a walk off sack on Monday Night Football, and there

1293
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: was kind of like a disjoint start to the Cardinal's

1294
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: final play. I think he and Kyler Murray both were

1295
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: expecting that play to be blown dead. It wasn't, so

1296
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: he gifted that sack eventually to Aaron Donald, his third

1297
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 1: of the game. Fun Now, I think what got overlooked

1298
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: in that trade and may get through out Von's career

1299
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: because he's such a provivid pass rusher, the how athletic

1300
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: he is in physical he's playing the run, and I

1301
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: think when Leonard Floyd opposite on the other edge, you

1302
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: look what the Rams had done since he arrived stuff

1303
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: in the run, especially on early downs. I think he's

1304
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: played a large hand in that, and certainly his reputation

1305
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: has allowed a few others to cease, including more one

1306
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: on one opportunities for Donald. JB. How big was this

1307
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinals. I mean, we know, hey, it

1308
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: was a big matchup. At your opportunity to continue to

1309
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: keep yourself in it for the NFC West. But you

1310
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: mentioned that three game losing streak that they had before

1311
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: winning against the Jags. Was there a feeling like, oh man,

1312
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: there's an uneasiness about where they're currently at as a team,

1313
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: or did you feel like this team kept believing and

1314
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: they kept believing in what they're doing and what they're building. No,

1315
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 1: that's a great question in terms of what implications it

1316
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: has for seeing that will be a product of the

1317
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: next month. The odds are still kind of stacked against

1318
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: the Rams overtaking the Cardinals, so it may not alter

1319
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: anything in terms of, you know, they were the five

1320
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: seeds before they're losing streak, they were the five seats

1321
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: after losing streak, five seats before Monday Night Football, five

1322
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: seed today. But I think what it proves to them

1323
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: is one, if they have to go back to Arizona,

1324
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: they're more than capable of continuing to have a little

1325
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: bit of ownage on that team. Secondly, even if we

1326
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: are entering the season where week to week fluctuations in

1327
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: personnel disrupt December, January and beyond in the NFL, they're

1328
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 1: capable of winning shorthand it's something they've done each of

1329
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. But perhaps most importantly, I think

1330
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: it got Matthew Stafford right. And what I mean by

1331
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: that is you kind of had this cloud hanging over

1332
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: his season in his career, as you guys know. At first,

1333
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: the narrative was he can't win in prime time. Then

1334
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: he beat the Seahawks on Thursday Night Football. Then it became, well,

1335
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: he's great at beating up, you know, the middle of

1336
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: the road teams and punching down, but he doesn't rise

1337
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: up and knock off contenders. Well, now he's got wins

1338
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: over Tom Brady and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and what was,

1339
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, the team with the best record in the

1340
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: National Football League. So hopefully that's behind him and that

1341
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: those kind of negative statistics are attributed more to his

1342
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: circumstances in Detroit and that he's back to playing free

1343
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: and confidently and most importantly with some health. Because now

1344
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: that they've got OBJ ramped up, I think all the

1345
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: tools are there for him in McVey to go scoring

1346
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: thirty thirty five points again the rest of the way.

1347
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: JBA talked to DeMarco Farr yesterday on our show in

1348
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: the afternoon yeah. And you know, I always like asking

1349
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: about somebody who is underrated and you know, maybe uh,

1350
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: someone that that he's not a mainline guy, but you

1351
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: know somebody that's playing well. And he said great gains. Actually,

1352
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: i'd ask you the same question, is is it great

1353
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: gains for you too? Oh low and Mohol DeMarco picks

1354
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: a husky, right, that was yes, of course I would

1355
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: have had a spot on that. No, he hundred percent right.

1356
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: I think the Rams have a good claim to having

1357
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: the best defensive interior in football between Donald Games and

1358
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: a Shawn Robinson. He playing his best football as a

1359
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: Ram as well. Where else could I go apart in

1360
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: aside from great games, he's certainly high up there. I

1361
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: think Ernest Jones at offball linebacker playing now in a

1362
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: free on capacity. Yeah, a rookie, someone they see kind

1363
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: of like the Darius Leonard Mould with some upside, would

1364
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: be someone different for the Seahawks. He was not part

1365
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: of their defensive game plan the last time we spoke

1366
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: earlier than the season. You know, I think Jordan Fuller

1367
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: on the back ends. You know, given the fact that

1368
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: the Rams are replacing John Johnson, who was great for them,

1369
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: for so many years. Now in the second season, I

1370
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he sneaks into some Pro Bowl

1371
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: conversation before the year is out. I think he's been outstanding.

1372
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 1: And then right now, to be truthful, its Sonny Michelle, like,

1373
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can be more impactful getting

1374
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 1: three or four yards per carry like he is right now,

1375
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: I'd be hard pressed to find it because he's a

1376
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: professional chain lover and ever since they by necessity committed

1377
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 1: to him as their lead back. I think the whole

1378
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: style in terms of personnel packages, multiplicity, it's all kind

1379
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: of come back to the under center play action game,

1380
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: but now they're doing it and more of a downhill

1381
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: between the tackles fashion as opposed to the standard todk Earley.

1382
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: You know Darryl Henderson outside zone basis, he has rams.

1383
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: Play by play announcer JB Long. JB. We know it's

1384
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: been a chaotic week of busy week out there, so

1385
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you taking the time. In the words

1386
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 1: of my basketball colleague Bill Walton, stay positive, test negative.

1387
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna wrap the huddle up with our

1388
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: final thoughts for this game between the Seahawks and Rams

1389
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: it's coming your way. Next. This is the huddle with

1390
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. It has been

1391
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: a two hour preview of the seahawks upcoming game against

1392
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: the Rams. Guys, we're gonna end with our final thoughts

1393
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: and here's what I want to look God, I want

1394
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: to look at a challenge versus the Rams, and an

1395
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: opportunity versus the Rams. So Dave, pick your poison, pick

1396
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: one of those and we'll start there. Okay, one challenge,

1397
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: one opportunity. Yeah, Okay. The challenge is gonna be blocking

1398
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. I think everybody, no, that's not gonna be

1399
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: a challenge. I think, well easy. I'll tell you what.

1400
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm leaving Cooper Cup out there. I'm leaving

1401
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup because that guy is ridiculous. And you know,

1402
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: you look at his um. He just he's not like

1403
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: this speed burner or anything like that, but just an

1404
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: amazing route runner. So but still it's Aaron Donald. You know,

1405
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: he was just named for the eighth time in his

1406
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: career NFC Player of the Week. So it's just incredible

1407
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: what he has gotten done on the inside. And you know,

1408
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: and I think Damian Lewis, Ethan Posk, Gabe Jackson, those

1409
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: guys have been kind of iffy, So I mean, if

1410
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: they are able to come up with a good plant.

1411
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: You know who blocked him really well, this is a

1412
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: few years ago. It was Jamarco Jones. Marco Jones had

1413
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: a really good game against him, and he came in,

1414
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, and was subbing and I think he was

1415
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: playing tackle. But anyway, that's that's gonna be the challenge.

1416
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: The opportunity for me is Rashad Penny. I can't wait

1417
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: to watch him play. I think this is a very

1418
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: important game for him. And uh and I'm gonna be

1419
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: pulling far Man. I just I love that guy. He

1420
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: just he's very sort of aware and um, I just

1421
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I like his personality. I think

1422
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: it's gonna click for him, and I want something really

1423
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 1: good for him to happen because he had such great

1424
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: success in college. He should have a good career. He

1425
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: really should, and it's just not worked out that way

1426
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 1: so far. Okay, so interesting. Your opportunity is my challenge actually,

1427
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: because I think the challenge is JB. Long was on

1428
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 1: with us and talked about it. Has since the addition

1429
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 1: of von Miller's that defensive line, and look he has

1430
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: been you watch the film. He hasn't gotten a sack,

1431
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: but he's still generating significant pressure. So it's not that

1432
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: he is an ineffective pass rusher, but he's actually been

1433
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: better than what people are given credit for and in

1434
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: terms of helping that defensive line become more dominant against

1435
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: the run game. And so my challenge is, can this

1436
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: offensive line, can Rashad Penny not replicate the exact performance

1437
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: that they had against the Houston Texans, but can they

1438
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 1: have an effective run game when the Rams. I think

1439
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a mystery as to what

1440
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 1: the Seahawks want to do in this matchup. So that,

1441
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 1: to me, is going to be the challenge. I'm as

1442
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 1: like Dave said, I'm pulling for Rashad Penny, rooting for him,

1443
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: want to see that. But I think this is going

1444
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: to be an incredible challenge that's going to be a

1445
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: different type of running game that Rashad Penny has not

1446
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: proven that he is that hard yardage gainer in the league.

1447
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: My opportunity here that I will point to is the defense.

1448
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: The opportunity here is to show that your stats that

1449
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: you keep rattling off your points per game, your red

1450
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: zone scoring, your third down defense, that it's going to

1451
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: show up when it matters most. And it's going to

1452
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: be in this type of matchup against the Rams, against

1453
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup and the rest of this crew.

1454
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: That's the opportunity that's there for this defense. And I

1455
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: want to see them prove that and for those things

1456
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: to come to life, because this is going to be

1457
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: a very difficult challenge. And Dave, you talk about yards matter, well,

1458
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to press that issue and

1459
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: see if the Seahawks defense can really hold up as

1460
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: the Rams continue to drive you down the field and

1461
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: them come up with the stops when they need it.

1462
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: All Right, good stuff from both of you. I went

1463
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: with the challenge. I gotta go with Dave on this one.

1464
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: It was between Cooper Cup and Aaron Donald. I went

1465
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and this one not just because he

1466
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: is the best defensive lineman in football, but also because

1467
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offensive line dealing with a couple injuries there.

1468
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 1: We talked to Ray Roberts who mentioned them really struggling

1469
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: with depth right now because even backups have been struggling

1470
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: with injuries. It will be a challenge. Is it doable, Yeah,

1471
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: we've seen it done before, but it'll it'll easily be

1472
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: the biggest issue they face that day. He can be

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Speaker 1: a nightmare for an opportunity. Bad Matthew Stafford. Bad Matthew

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01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 1: Stafford can be very bad. Now good Matthew Stafford is great.

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01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: We saw a fifty two yard pass to Van Jefferson

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: for a touchdown and fifty of those were air yards

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: last week, or excuse me, this week Monday against the Cardinals,

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: a fantastic game. Matthew Stafford when he's on it best

1479
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: one of the best arms in football. Bad Matthew Stafford

1480
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: is the Stafford that showed up in a stretch of

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: three losses against Tennessee, San Francisco and Green Bay. Had

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01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: five interceptions during that time to just four touchdowns. And

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01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 1: you also had some issues with I believe a fumble

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01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. So again it's it's it's a flip

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01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: at the coin opportunity. You don't know if that's the

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: version you're gonna get. But what I'm really hoping is

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: it's the version not just that the Seahawks skip, but

1488
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: maybe Quandre Diggs. Maybe Quandre Diggs gets a chance against

1489
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 1: bad Matthew Stafford. I would love that. First of all,

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 1: you were wise with your first selection station. But heavy

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: eye roll for me, Dave. You can't see me right now,

1492
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: but heavy eye roll. Hey, if anybody's eye rolling, it's

1493
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: me rolling my eyes at you. Because of that guy

1494
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: at JB. Long saying, oh, that was an amazing question. Jake,

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01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: Come on, no, it wasn't aloud nine after that woman

1496
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: he was so he was bragging. It's another tally. It's

1497
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: another tally on the board. And you know, when you

1498
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: just born with that gift, sometimes you gotta let it shine.

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, learned how to make soundcuts today, and now

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01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: he's just thinking like I can do anything in this building,

1501
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 1: ask questions, sound anything you need when you when you

1502
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: come in, I'll show you how to do it. Okay, okay,

1503
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: And I can like a make these great promos about myself.

1504
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly what you can do. That's exactly what you

1505
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 1: can do, Tracy, to your point, really quick, you look

1506
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: at bad Matthew Stafford also sacked nine times in that

1507
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: three game losing shriek that you talked about. Um, yeah,

1508
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: get to him. He's no different than any quarterback, right Jack.

1509
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you get around his feet, you get

1510
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: around the eyes come down all of a sudden. I

1511
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: mean he's made some pretty crazy play so like the

1512
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: one where he's going down and he throw, doesn't he

1513
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: throw like a touchdown or it's like a safety. Or

1514
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: he has some crazy play against I think it was

1515
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: against the Titans. So I mean, he's no different than

1516
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: anybody else. And uh, I actually want to end on

1517
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: that note. That's perfect. We've got about two minutes left here,

1518
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 1: so let's focus solely on the Seahawks pass rush. We

1519
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: have barely talked about it at all today when they've

1520
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: been great, when they've got going, you can see great

1521
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: play from Darryl Taylor. I'll start actually start with Jake

1522
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: and Davil and with you. If you guys have to

1523
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: look at that pass rush and say what needs to

1524
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 1: go right, who needs to step up or who do

1525
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: you want to see step up? Well, this is the

1526
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: unique aspect of it because it stylistically Ken Orton Junior

1527
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll decided, hey, look, midway through the season,

1528
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 1: we struggled to our pass rush, so you know what

1529
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: we're going to make sure that we are really really

1530
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: good against the and we're gonna put three defensive tackles

1531
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: out there. We're gonna transition into more of a bare

1532
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: front three to four type of scheme, and that's really

1533
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: limited your edge rushers and and it's it's been difficult

1534
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,600
Speaker 1: to generate that pass rush. And you're guys that you

1535
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: came in wanting to be significant pass rushers for you,

1536
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlap, Carry Hyder Jr. Benz and Mayoa. They are

1537
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: put being put in different situations where not only are

1538
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: they playing somewhat of a different position, but they're also

1539
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: being asked to drop and coverage more often than not.

1540
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: So it's a unique part of this that is a

1541
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 1: little head scratching from that aspect. But I'll be curious

1542
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: to see how much they roll out their speed package

1543
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: that they generally roll out there on third down, knowing

1544
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: that stylistically the Rams are a little bit different than

1545
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: everyone else and are willing to throw the ball all

1546
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 1: over the yard on first and second down, not just

1547
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: third down. Yeah, I agree with you with the defensive front.

1548
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: It just it just really hasn't worked. But I'll say this,

1549
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: al Woods has played really, really well so, I mean

1550
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 1: that's the closest direct line to the quarterback. So if

1551
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: you can get that big dog just getting some pressure

1552
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: up the medal. I think Havnstein is out because of

1553
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 1: the COVID thing. I think, yes, yeah, well we don't

1554
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: know if he's out out he is on the yeah,

1555
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: well yeah, and everybody's kind of up in the air.

1556
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 1: But you know, if you know, if there's something to

1557
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: take advantage of their I think big Al has been

1558
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: playing really well, so hopefully he can get some pressure

1559
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: from the inside. All Right, This has been the Huddle

1560
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 1: with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. Thank you

1561
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 1: to everyone who joined us today, all of our great guests,

1562
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 1: including Rashad Penny. He'll be a big focus this weekend

1563
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 1: in a game against the Rams. Just so you guys

1564
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: know that game. That Seahawks game kicks off at one

1565
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: twenty five pm in LA. Make sure you tune into

1566
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks pregame show that kicks off three hours before

1567
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 1: and stick around for the postgame show afterwards. Don't go

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: anywhere