WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Young Guns 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:05.320 The following. 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.360 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:14.120 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.439 This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.680 From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:32.159 Six sect ted pat touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:36.960 Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.839 It's so Wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.800 Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from the Star in Frisco. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.120 Texas in the SWBC studios. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.080 It is now week fifteen of the NFL season as 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:55.280 the Cowboys get ready to take on the Carolina Panthers. 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.480 Coming up on Sunday at noon. 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:01.640 Will at Patrick No see Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.080 Back with Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeoman's 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.959 whole cast and crew ready for you today to rock Isaiah, 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:08.360 I thought. 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:09.200 You were back tomorrow. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.120 A lot of rock. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.320 Long Yeah, you know, Kyle's in and out man. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.720 One day trip maybe one day trip thisay. Next time 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.839 I saw your day in the life on your story, 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:21.440 it was nice. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:22.720 Try to do that from time to time. 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:27.640 You know, just how your chase checks bro boy man listen, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.520 y'all three all three got salary. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:32.040 I gotta get the contract, like you know what I mean. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.560 I'm all about it, man, that's I love that you. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:35.480 No, it was a good time. Man. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:37.360 I wish I could have stayed and watched the game 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.680 in person, but you know, duty call, so I was 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.720 able to do the pregame show to carry my responsibilities 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:42.319 with the cowboys. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:42.640 Hopped on. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.040 The plane went down and it was a short night. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:46.960 It was a very short night. But got up and 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:48.600 did TV and now I'm back with. 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:49.200 My fellows there. 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:51.480 They didn't want to watch this, man, I did. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.720 I watched all of it, watched every every minute you. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:57.280 Watch it on the plane, got that Wi Fi and almost. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:00.120 Almost took out a couple of flight attendants because my 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.040 body language at the time. I had the bones, fossil 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.280 you know, arms out, hands overhead, I had all that 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.480 stuff going on, and I definitely almost hit the person 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.480 that was sitting next to me who was sleep sound asleep. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.200 And yeah, I had all the stuff, all this stuff 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.000 I was I was watching it, Yeah, all the things 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:16.320 like legit, if there was a hidden camera on me, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.160 I wish there was because you guys would have seen like. 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:22.760 I was doing all of it on the plane. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:25.919 Were you in? Were you and coach? Were you in 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:26.480 first class? 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.520 They take care of me. Okay, I did not pay. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:36.919 It was a gift for those that don't remember. We've 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.359 got history when it comes to that. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.600 That's why they caught Isaiah first first class stand back. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:45.840 So he's not a stand by. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.680 You're not a stand by. First on first off. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:56.880 Jones Es leg room stand back. So what did you 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.280 think of the Special team's miss cue? 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.160 I mean, it's just that's not I mean, that's, first 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.520 of all, amazing call by bones fossil yep. 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.760 Okay, we talked about that amazing execution. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:11.320 By the blocking portion that the guys that are on 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:13.720 the line of scream issues and responsible for creating the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.000 mismatches and a confusion a Nick Vigil doing a great 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.680 job of getting both hands down, getting it, getting it blocked, 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.760 avoiding the kicker, avoiding the punter in the process. As 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:24.480 a straight veteran, you don't see that out of young 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.120 guys a lot of times. And then you just have 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.639 to be smart. You just have to be smart. I 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.600 don't like pointing out guys, but these are conversations that 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.720 you have if anybody who's questioning Bones Fossil's decision. If 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:40.640 anybody's questioning you know whether or not Bones Fossil teaches 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:46.400 his guys. Every person who is a specialist understands that 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.960 once you block a punt, unless that thing is bouncing 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:51.720 right in front of you and you are on the 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.440 opposing side, right by the punter and you can pick it. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.360 Up and scoop and score, you get the heck away. 0:03:57.560 --> 0:03:58.800 It's called Peter Peter. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.480 I don't know whether where originated, but as soon as 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.840 you hear that, soon as you hear that, you look 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:04.640 around you find the ball. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.720 It is Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter, get the heck away. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.240 Run to the dog dog on second level of AT 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.760 and T Stadium, Go sit down next to somebody, grab 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:16.040 a little bit the popcorn, take a little sippy sip, 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:18.760 and watch the ball come to a halt, and then 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.680 watch your offense go back out there and get the 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.080 ball and go win the ball game. That's how you 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.960 go about your business. So it was great up until 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:31.520 that point. And it's unfortunate because instinctively, instinctively, you want 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:33.040 to be the one to grab the ball and go 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.800 do something with it. That's instinct. That's just your competitive nature. Now, 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.760 So I don't fault anybody for instinctively wanting to go 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.320 make a play. The logic has to kick in correct. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.440 The coaching has to coaching has to come in. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.160 There has to be the little bones fossil sitting on 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.160 your shoulder, throwing his arms up in the air, saying, Peter, Peter, Peter, 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.920 get the heck away, because it's literally natural for you 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.200 to go to the ball. But you will see it, 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:56.960 you guys, go look at all the punts, all the 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.400 blocks from this year, and I guarantee you you will 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.920 see people in distinctually go to the ball and then 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.720 they pulled back. Yeah, it's natural. So I'm not faulting 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.440 the natural instinct. I am faulting the disregard of the coach, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:11.040 coaching wise element that should have been coming through your 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.240 head at that point in time to get the heck away. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:14.200 And because of that, it's. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.400 Unfortunate, but that particular play ended up being a thing 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.360 that lost you the game. And there was accumulation of 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.280 other plays that could have taken place throughout the game. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.640 Could have done things better, could have executed better, could 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.080 have had less penalties, all the things that contribute to 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.760 a loss, but in that moment, that was too big 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:29.520 of a moment. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.280 To not be fully aware of what the severity of 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:33.280 that situation was. 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:33.760 Yeah. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:37.120 And we talked a little bit about it yesterday about 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:41.160 Emonio will Warria and his Yeah, what his thought process 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:45.120 was going into it. And one of our callers yesterday 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.840 talking Tuesday, said that he felt. 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.960 Like it was a selfish move. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.720 I don't think he used the word selfish, but he 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.240 said it was a move where it's like you can't 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.400 be the hero in that moment and try and take 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.680 it and do something. He was falling on top of 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.400 the ball, in my opinion, So I think it's more 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:01.800 so what you're talking about. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.400 It's instinct. It's sea ball, get ball, let me recover it. 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:06.960 He's not thinking I'm going to pick this up and 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:07.360 go take it. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.560 This is not the first time we've seen it, Yeah, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.840 And I want people to remember and remember that. And 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.880 it's the first time you've seen it in special teams. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.480 How many times have we seen o Liman this year try. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:17.080 To pick the ball up? 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.160 Yet it's twice right playing hero ball. He's still in 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:22.480 guiding right both of them. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:22.840 This year. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.799 People forget this right, let me help you guys recollect. Okay, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:29.039 those guys are instinctually you're supposed to fall on the ball. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.440 Up, I take that back. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.720 Instinctally they want to get the get the run, right, Logically, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:35.920 they're supposed to fall on the ball. 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.680 Remember who you are, Remember what your position is. 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:40.279 Fall on the ball. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.000 The probability of you scooping and scoring is probably very low. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.200 So fall on the ball. But we've seen instincts say. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.320 What get the ball and run. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:51.080 I mean, look at just a couple of weeks ago 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.000 in Washington, one Y Thomas. He picks up that that 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.520 onside kick and takes the coach for such. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:58.800 In that moment, you fall on and you fall on 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:04.120 the ball, situation instinct says I'm going to make a play. Yeah, right, and. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:06.080 You're not. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.680 You don't think about all the you don't think about 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.560 all the what ifs, right, because understand this, And that's 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:12.160 why I said I don't. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:12.440 I don't. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.360 I don't want to come out too hard on him 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.280 because he knows right, trust me, he's beating the crap 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.000 out of himself right now. Mentally, if anything, he needs 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.880 support at this time the game is yeah, I'm yeah, yeah, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.160 trust me stepping in front of it. 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:26.760 And yeah. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:30.080 The thing is people need to understand when you are 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.600 the one responsible for losing the game for your team, 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.080 you need all the support in the world because you 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:38.680 people aren't talking to you. 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:40.320 You can feel the energy. 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.680 You already know, right you're running through that same play 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.320 thousands of times in your head. 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.520 What I should have done differently, what could have done better? 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:47.640 What? 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.160 Why did I do that? I don't trust me. He 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.800 is beating himself up, so we don't need to beat 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.960 him up, but we need. But they're the coaching element 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.840 needs to be continually ran over because I know it's 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.400 been communicated, right, I know it's been communicated. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.640 And for that to have happened at that moment just 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:03.960 is just really unfortunate. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.000 You don't react that way as a team. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.640 I mean the sideline reacting the way that they did, 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.200 the Nick vigil from. 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.720 Halfway across the field with his hands over his head. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:19.120 You don't react that way if it had not been communicated. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.000 If if and that's where a lot of people might say, well, 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:23.640 why didn't they coach them up better? 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:27.760 They did? These guys know the fundamentals of all of that. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.560 Can I give you an example, a really quick example. 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.120 So we were playing I think it was a Monday 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.040 night game maybe against Philadelphia back in the day, and 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.800 I was a kick returner and it was at the 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:41.240 time it was myself and it was Jones, Felix Jones 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.160 goes back to returning kicks, and they didn't want to 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:45.840 kick me the ball. I had had maybe a handful 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:48.079 of good returns leading up to that game. So we 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.280 ended up doing this thing where we were interchange and 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.359 we would switch right based upon the approach of David Akers. 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:54.640 Trying to try to force their hands. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.480 So David I ended up declaring myself and David Ackers 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.600 kicked me a knuckleball, a freaking knuckle Now this thing 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.360 is coming at you, you know, sixty yards away, and 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.400 it's freaking going like this, right, anybody ever seen a 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.560 knuckleball before. It's kind of crazy. He made it happen 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.120 with a football. So the ball's coming at me right, 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:10.640 I step outside of the en zone. I come to 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.240 the ball and it dives out it literally right out right, 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.040 as right as I were grabbing it, freaking curve broke. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.400 It was nasty twelve six, freaking nasty six. So it 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.520 hits my hand and goes in the end zone. Instinctually, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.000 what do you do? 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:25.680 Pick up? 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.760 Picking up? I touched the ball. I touched the ball 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:30.920 outside the end zone. It's hot, it's hot. I gotta 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:32.719 get it, right, I gotta get it. I gotta get it. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:33.960 I gotta hurry up. I go back in the zone, 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:35.280 grab the ball. I gotta come out. I gotta try 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:39.480 to make something happen. Logically, right, I didn't understand this 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.280 at the time. Right, coach had went over it back 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.240 in training camp. Right, But logically I should have taken 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.360 the knee because the momentum of the ball carried into 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.160 the end zone. But instinctively, I went back, grabbed the ball, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:52.839 and I came back out in I got tackled, like 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.160 on the two yard line. Next play, Tony Romo gets 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.160 stripped sack for a touchdown. M butterfly fit. I was 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.720 beating the craw out of myself. I was beating myself down, right, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.520 because I was the one responsible for that. Right, But 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.439 instincts kicked in and all logic went out the window 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.840 because you go into panic mode, right, right you went. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.079 I went to panic mode. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.280 I'm like, so to this day, I run this play 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.520 over and over and over, so understand what he's going through. 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.640 And I feel him, right, I feel him. 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.880 It's it's just one of those things and you just 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.360 hope that when you have those moments that they don't 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:28.960 have these. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.800 Results, and unfortunately this decision did. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.240 Now that's a great example, really is, and there are 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.959 very few people that understand it the way that people 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.600 would if you've gone through that, you're. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.120 Talking about it all these years later. 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.800 Yeah, imagine what year this bro, That was my second 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.640 year in the league. Old at and T Stadium, I mean. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.439 Texas Texas Stadium. You know, the roof open at all time. 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.760 I mean it's bro and I mean that was a 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.520 big time. Philly was in town. I mean it was 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.080 you know, it was old school Philly. Brian Dawkins Philly 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:59.439 all said it was Monday night too. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:01.040 I think it was Monday night games. I mean everybody 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.000 their mom was watching Monday night. Sunday night was one 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:03.320 of the two. 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.080 Yeah, it was crazy, very similar, very similar. 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:11.080 And as a return touchdown, everybody's watching who you there 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:12.480 was nowhere else for anybody to look. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.760 Yeah, you and the ball. Yeah that's it man. That Yeah, 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:17.240 that's tough. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.760 But yeah, we talked about it, coaching moments, learning moments. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.920 You can't reverse it. You can't You're going to replay 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.400 it forever, but you can't change it, and you kind. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.680 Of have to give it up for AO in earlier 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:29.599 moments this season. I mean, he was the one to 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:32.600 ice the Giants win for us when he picked off 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.360 Daniel Jones in the last in the final seconds of 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.800 the game. He's had some really good plays. It's not 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.360 like this guys is not worth playing on the field. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:43.360 It was on the same wavelength, at least for me 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.320 as a guy like Josh Butler. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.480 Yeah, he was Josh Butler this season before Josh Butler 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:49.920 then became Josh correct. 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:55.320 Correct, So didn't anticipate it. You pick him up off 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:56.600 of the street as a free agent. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.360 He comes in and contributes, and that's all you ask 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.760 out of those guys like that. And he's making an 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:04.679 effort play, trying to do what he can. But like 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.440 you said, I think it's the battle between logic and instincts. 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.240 That's what you just outlined, and in this point, instincts 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.040 won out. He's trying to see ball, getball, hop on 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.040 top of it, secure possession because he doesn't know what 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.599 happened outside of that, you gotta be you gotta be 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:20.240 better about it. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:21.960 And that's that's the only thing you can learn. 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:23.080 That's called football. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:23.280 Man. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.640 The highest of the highs, the lowest of the lowes, 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.360 and you see it, and you see it often. Obviously 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.559 it's not always as highlighted as much as this one was. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.360 But we see holding calls all the timers like, come on, man, 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.240 you gotta let him go. Well, the dog and me 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.280 says no, run this dude into the ground. The logic says, hey, 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.160 once he gets leverage on me, I gotta let him go, right. So, 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:42.520 I mean, you see it all the time. It just 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.920 doesn't get as much attention as it One of the 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.360 main things is and you can attest to this, Isaiah, 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.360 definitely as a form of pro player, being a professional 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.760 NFL or being a professional, because that's done it being 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:55.520 a professional player in any sport, but we're talking about 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:59.719 the NFL. You have to balance the preparation and the 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.439 code that's been instilled in you versus your fight or 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.719 flight in the moment. And that's all it ever is 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.240 when any given and that's what. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.480 Holding call is. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:13.240 It's mono versus you know, man, man versus man, you 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:14.800 want to beat me, I don't want to beat you. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.360 So in that phone booth, letting you go in that 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:18.160 phone booth. 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.719 You know there's a play going on, but it's you 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.720 versus this guy, and it might result in a holding call. 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.640 You might get a little too aggressive, you might go 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.959 full block off. Man, I'm not going to concede that 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.880 you beat me in the middle of So those types 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:35.240 of situations, it's situational for yeah, pretty much. 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.240 That is when it's most important, which is why some 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.599 coaches and again I don't know what happens on that 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:42.440 side of the building, but I know it. Bones foss 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.280 was one of the most respected coaches in the league. 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.200 And I think even if I was reading up, mister 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.319 Jones even went in there and questioned bones. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.439 Fossils what was the play to me? 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:53.319 And he came. When I came back around, I was like, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.120 I don't fault him. Great execution, All the stuff is right. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:04.320 That's why some just spends so much time on situational football. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.840 And I go back to a lot of times people 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.839 hate it. Yeah, I know people hate when I go 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.839 back and talk about my time in New England, but 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.520 that was the time where where there was an emphasis 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:19.320 on situational football. We spent hours every day walking through 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.840 situational football. Coach Belichick will bring up situations from the 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.800 Dog on seventies film out that there was a literal film, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:27.880 you know what I'm saying, not digital but actual film, 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:30.040 and we would go over here and back in this game. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:31.760 You know, this was the situation, and this we're going 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.560 to go over in practice today because when those moments 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.720 present themselves, that's the first thing that comes in your head. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.640 Ah right, and it tries it. And they do that 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:45.800 to try to limit the instinctual response because you're a competitor. 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.560 You are a competitor, and the coaches understand that as 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.160 a competitor, it is naturally and ordainly in you to 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.120 react the way that has made you a professional. So 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.760 I have to have to literally teach you so much 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:03.080 situational ball that it overthrows your instincts which. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.320 Have made you a professional athlete. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.200 That's extremely insightful from the future coach of the University 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:08.920 of North Carolina, Tar Hills. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:12.400 And his son. 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.360 Yeah, let's get into some news and notes quickly before 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:18.480 we get into some other previews this week. 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.800 Indeed, so We're still waiting to hear an update on 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.360 Cooper BB as far as the concussion is concerned. But 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.160 like I said yesterday, short week going into Carolina, I 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:30.600 personally am not penciling him in for this game. I 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.080 think the starting lineup, we'll see what left tackle looks 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.560 like with Tyler Gotton, but Tyler Guyton Slash, Chumdidoga and 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.760 then Tyler Smith brought Hoffman, TJ. Bass and Terrence Teel. 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.800 I think that's give or take your starting five or 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.160 six rotation there. We'll see if he can clear protocol 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.640 in time, but I'm not confident that he can. And Overshown, 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.240 we got the confirmation after yesterday's episode that Overshown. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.720 Has torn a c l M c l P CL. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.600 So that's that's the devastating news is that he will 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.320 as we expected, he's gonna have to have surgery. Yep, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.320 his season is over, but there is a solid likelihood 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.240 that we may not see him on the field next year, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.200 next season or next year because calendar year twenty twenty shot. 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.440 Maybe Cowboys make a playoff run of some sort. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.440 When you see him in January of twenty twenty six, 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.640 which is still technically next season, but it's a long journey. 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.040 Don't pencil him in for that. Just let him get 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.720 his knee together. Heel up. 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.000 Now that's the bad news. That's dark cloud over twenty 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.120 twenty five for him. Before you go on like prayer, 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.160 I was gonna keep to him, Go ahead. I'm sorry. Sorry, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:42.000 prayers up to demo. And if anybody questions how tough 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.360 some of these dudes are, this dude got. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.400 Up and it was assisted, but walked off the field. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:53.360 It's preseason torn ACL walked walked off, walked off. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.000 It was a torn ACL and MCL last year in 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.720 his left knick, Yeah, that was left and then this 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:04.880 is PCLC and the right knee. 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.240 So this is a worst This is the trifecta. Yeah, 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.119 this is the worst injury he's had throughout his career. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.920 However, opposite need And yet I know I was gonna say, 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.280 and yet it's not the worst case scenario. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.600 Meniscus, no miniscus damage, it's good. No nerve damage, that's good. 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.560 So it's really good. 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.159 With no nerve damage, this is much less. I know 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.120 a lot of fans were wondering if this is career 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.080 threatening With no nerve damage. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.040 He'll be back he's a dog. He'll be back. And 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:35.399 I was citing this reference yesterday on Twitter, Nick Chubb. 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.440 Okay, Nick Chubb, and people like, well, Nick Chubb doesn't 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:41.880 look like the prime Nick Chubb. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.639 But first of all, he's only been back on the right, 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.120 So there's that. But keep in mind. 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:49.240 Who's giving you the reference, right, So Uga, I'm a 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.040 Georgia guy everybody knows in fit say that because in 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:55.000 twenty fifteen, where was Nick Chubb? He was in Athens 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:59.000 with my dogs. Twenty fifteen he suffered his first devastating 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.720 the injury. Questions about what he be able to get 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:04.880 back to peak form at the NFL level, Should people 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:06.800 use a high pick on him, whatever the case may be, 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.639 Cleveland rounds, he was a high pig. Guess what they get? 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.960 They get an all pro player. He turns all Pro 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:13.720 after that devastating the injury. So I say that to 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.800 say for that to a guy like the Mario and Overshown, 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.120 who much like Nick Chubb we're talking about. Certain guys 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.800 are just different physically, right. I am one hundred percent 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.600 confident that, barring some type of horrendous set back knock 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.359 on wood, that it doesn't happen Marion Overshown will be 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.040 back in a Cowboys uniform. I believe that he will 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.680 get back to peak peak form. Give him a little 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.359 bit of grace when he gets back as far as 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:37.080 timeline is. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.640 Concerned, but he'll be back. 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:43.919 His mental fortitude is unmatched, his faith is rock solid, 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.760 and as far as work ethic is concerned, you're hard 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:49.439 pressed to find a guy who will attack this rehab 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.520 as hard as he will. So some obviously bad news, 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.680 but good news. No nerve damage, no miniscus damage. He 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.879 just needs to get the three ligaments repaired surgically and 0:18:58.200 --> 0:18:59.840 get to work, and he will and he will. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.040 Yeah, good news. There any other news and notes. 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.680 Cooper Rush is going to start again. 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.240 He's been officially named the starter against the Carolina Panthers, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.359 and honestly, in listening to Mike McCarthy and listening to 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.359 Jerry Jones on one A five three of the Fan, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.960 it doesn't sound like the Cowboys are going to play 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.880 the Tree Lance card at starter until slash unless they're 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.280 mathematically eliminated, so Panthers might do him a favor. 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:26.200 We will see. 0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:29.960 Just reminder, both Cooper Rush and Trey Lance around the 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.600 last year their contract that they're both free agents, and 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.080 Trey Lance is actually a higher cap hit this year, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.760 he's being paid more than Yeah's pay. He's being paid 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.680 the same amounts Coop Rushes the entire contract. That's correct, million, 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.920 just over five point just over rushes two year contract 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.200 is what Trey Lance's receiving salary this year. Yeah, you 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.800 also didn't give up a pick to a choir coople Rush, 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:56.040 which is even more questioning as there myself. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.520 Panthers, the Panthers, the Panthers a Wednesday. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.160 So we're gonna preview the Cowboys defense in their matchup 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:04.040 with Bryce Young. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.600 And the Panthers when we come back with more talking 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:07.680 Cowboys right after this. 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.920 If you're looking for fresh American roasted coffee that gives back, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.439 you need to head to your local grocery store and. 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.800 Pick up a bag of Black Rifle Coffee. 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.320 That's right, America's coffee is now available in the coffee 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:24.600 aisle of a grocery store near you. 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Man, they almost got the Philadelphia 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.040 They will call you almost. I know, I know they 0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:25.680 almost got a Bryce Young. He ranks fourth in red 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:29.200 zone past percentage. Do you guys know that that's pretty 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.600 darn good for a team that started very terribly this week? 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:33.320 At fourth. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:37.240 Guy who was benched out of thirty two he drinks fourth? 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.879 And uh, do you guys know that the Dallas defense 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:42.120 is ranked last and red zone touchdown percentage? 0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:43.480 I don't like what you're saying. 0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:44.280 Not good for us. 0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:48.080 However, however, guys, they got a running back. His name 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.879 is Chuba Hubbard. How about this dude is also. 0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:53.120 Very very good. 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.520 He's almos He's a former cowboy, Homa State cow State cowboy. 0:23:57.920 --> 0:23:59.800 What are you talking? I just what do you want? 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:02.800 Everybody that's lessening probably was like you idiots. 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:06.159 Oh, I mean I only consider him good if he 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:07.000 had a thousand yards. 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.080 Yeah, he does have a thousand yards. 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:14.600 He was on fifteen attempts, eight touchdowns. Already, great vision, 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:17.040 his patient, he finished runs. He's a north and south guy. 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:18.760 With deceptive speed. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.639 Dude, I am not looking forward to seeing too. 0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:24.240 But they lost his backup though they didn't really back up. 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.600 But this guy can carry the rock and he can 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:28.200 carry it a lot. 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:30.440 So here's where I am on that. 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.359 So first of all, yes, it goes without saying to 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.760 you with Hubbard, he can, he can make some waves. 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.760 When the Cowboys went to Bank of America Stadium last 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.440 year and they started kind of playing with their food 0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:42.560 food so to speak, and that Cowboys team you. 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.040 Could use that term onre not this Cowboys now different. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.320 They were playing with their food and they found out, 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.560 they almost found out the hard way like you don't 0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:54.159 do that. Yeah, yeah, I almost went there, faf f afo, 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.840 faffel tube. Hubbard was actually, you know, tearing off some 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.879 some yardage against him last year. So they're familiar with 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:01.600 what hubbrid can do. 0:25:01.720 --> 0:25:03.520 And it's our defense is as good as they were 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:04.000 last year. 0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:04.199 Right. 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:08.520 No, But but I will say this, which great segue. 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:12.520 The run defense has definitely taken steps forward. 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:13.800 It has taken steps in the right. 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:19.040 They shut down the rushing attack completely of the Cincinnati Bengals. 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.120 And I know people say, well, you know, the Bengals 0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.280 they wanted to kind of throw the ball, not as 0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:25.840 much as the Cowboys were forcing them to throw the ball. 0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:27.679 Over the course of the first three and a half quarters, 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.679 they really put the Bengals in a bind and made 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.040 them one dimensional. But then the problem once they made 0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.480 them one dimensional, and Kyle will not because we talked 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.440 about this, Isaiah, we talked about this, Josh, we talked 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:36.760 about this. 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:38.040 It was more than. 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.880 Simply pressuring Joe Burrow and knocking him off the spot, 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.040 because he can reset. You needed to get hands on 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.880 him and take him down. So the run defense was there, 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:48.560 the pressure was there. They just couldn't get the sacks. 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:52.520 I say that to say this run defense might actually 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:57.159 be I just I just remember Demo was going so 0:25:57.400 --> 0:26:00.600 the run defense prior to losing the Marveyonovshow, I could 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.560 argue was better than last year's run defense, whereas the 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.600 secondary play was better last year than this year. But 0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.480 now that it just hit me again that Demo's out 0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:12.280 on the field, now you're gonna have some real questions 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.399 about you know, is that run defense is going to 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:15.199 take a step back or now. 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:17.200 But I think in the later half of the last 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:22.000 game you did see enough from the mad to give 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.800 you a chance in that aspect. 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:25.040 Not He's not Demo. 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.960 There's no other player on this defense than is Demo. 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.640 But I think you have a chance, like you said, 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:33.480 to continue the progress that the run defenses have so 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.919 far this season over the last second half of the. 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:38.760 Day, they're gonna have to play Demon. They're going to 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:43.680 have to play But it can't be he's being scratched for. Yeah, anyways, 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:47.280 the Damon last time he was on the field, he 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:47.880 was impactful. 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.240 Yeah, he was impactful. So yes, you're gonna miss Demo. 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.960 Only he has a ton of experience too. Now at 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.760 this point in his career. He has a bunch of 0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.600 snaps for this early on. So yeah, I feel confident 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.400 with the mont Clark step again, is he de marve 0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:03.240 and over nobody? 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:04.119 Nobody? 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:04.479 Uh? 0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:07.440 And And I think you're right, Marius leaf Out is 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.200 that guy who's gonna have to step up in that? 0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:10.600 And he was giving you a lot. I mean he 0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:11.560 sacked Joe Burrow. 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:13.600 My person did not. 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.320 He's at critical junction. He's said he did that. That 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.560 would have helped give you that game if what happened 0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:21.320 after didn't happen. 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.520 If there's any silver lining to the demo injury, it 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.040 is the fact that you're going to see on the 0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.240 field more and he will have the chances. 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.800 He will have those chances. Who is the most dangerous 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.679 weapon on this on the Carolina Panthers. 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:39.719 Offense outside of Young or including including outside of right 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.879 now right now, I think it's Bryce Young, But I 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.719 would throw at him Feeling into the mix too. 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.280 He was really good last week. Yeah, yeah, he was. 0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:49.360 He was big last week. 0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.919 He was part of the reason why they gave Philadelphia fits. 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:54.399 Philadelphia couldn't cover him. 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.119 I'm going I'm gonna go with Bryce because if Bryce 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.800 is confidence isn't where it is right now, then feeling 0:28:01.920 --> 0:28:03.480 is not effect agreed completely. 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:04.560 I'm starting Cuba. 0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:08.760 You're going Tuba. I'm going Tuba. I'm going with David knalism. 0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.520 Old the coach a little little coaching A yeah, well curveball. 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:14.840 Yeah he's a dude. Yeah he's a dude. 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.040 I know first, he like his scheme. 0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:18.520 He was my assistant coach when I was in a 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.560 Seattle briefly, and I worked with him thoroughly. 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.119 I worked with him every very adamant when before he 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:27.600 was he was ever going all the way back to 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.840 before the off season happened and Isaiah was looking at 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.879 these guys that are possible coaching candidates. He said, wherever 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:38.120 Canalis ends up? Forgot about this entirely. You said it 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:40.360 was going to be a huge thing. And what you 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:43.600 said you needed a running back and you needed a young. 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.880 Quarterback to coach up sipts. Well, there you go. You 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:47.640 got two guys. 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:49.280 He's got freaking dude. 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.280 You will talking about somebody who was passionate almost as 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:52.920 good as what he does. 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:59.120 My world traveling helped me out. I was like, you're 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.120 gonna go here, here, here, here's gonna be off later. 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.800 David Kanalis is uh a student of the game, like 0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:08.720 a genuine student in a game. 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:09.560 He loves the. 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.360 Game of football. He he every aspect of it. He 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:19.120 likes creating concepts. He's just he's a dog. And when 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.360 I'm watching the film with the Panthers, i can't help 0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:23.840 I know what's about to play the Cowboys, but I 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.880 can't help but smile and just laugh because I'm like, 0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.200 these concepts. 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.200 That he's creating are absolutely insane. 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:33.560 And once Bryce Young is throwing the ball on time, 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.760 and once he has receivers that can make plays all, 0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:40.320 give me the example. 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:44.480 Give me an example of one of these concepts. 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.280 Look at how openly get was in that that touchdown 0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:50.960 a lot of guys would be touchdown, would be game 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.880 winning touchdown. Right, Yeah, look at that play design and 0:29:53.960 --> 0:29:56.560 tell me that. I mean, like you said, the evidence 0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:56.880 is there. 0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.440 You need a savior. 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:03.040 Look at of the draft to every almost every play 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.360 play almost every First of all, there's a lot of motion, right, 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:13.080 so there's a lot of coverage declarations, deck declarers, a 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.320 lot of coverage declarations, right, so they make you declare 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.440 what your coverage is via motion. That's the first thing 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:20.880 that he does so as you guys go back and 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:24.160 watch film of Carolina. Look how often guys are in motion. 0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.240 Look at the guys that are in motion. Right, Look 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:30.040 exactly how the defense has to adjust and the information 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:32.320 that that conveys to Bryce Young right, I don't care, 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.480 young quarterback, old quarterback. It gives you a ton of 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.480 information when you start sending guys in motion, the leverage 0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.360 that they were able to create by going in these motions. 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:41.480 Right, where are these guys going? 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.600 Are they inserting or are they going outside of the 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:47.000 receivers that are lined up in the slot. And then 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.760 typically there's always gonna be somebody at all three levels. 0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:52.520 These are not routes that are called. These aren't concepts 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.520 that are that are called simply because okay, we need 0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.320 to get seven yards. Like they have somebody for seven yards, 0:30:57.320 --> 0:30:59.160 they have somebody for fourteen yards. They have somebody for 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.280 the home run shot. Almost on every play, you can 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.160 go back and look and see there is a home 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.920 run shot on almost every one, and he has it 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:07.040 literally layered. 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.040 I mean, it's a dog on seven seven up, three 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.880 layer clack, all right, it's just you watch it. 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.719 It's like crap, he got wheel routes on almost everything. 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.440 He has deep posts and deep and goals on almost everything. 0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.360 It's pretty dog on sick because as a defense, you 0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.680 can't relax, you can't get focused, you can't get so 0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.080 enamored by the down and distance that you're playing downhill 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.520 because somebody will literally sneak out of your air peripheral 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.959 and be open for a touchdown potential touchdown. 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:32.760 Like you just saw what you just talked about. So 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.640 when you watch film, just just look at it. 0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.520 Just instead of zooming in on where the ball goes, 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.440 zoom out and look at where it could have went, 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:41.120 and you will open your eyes and you'll be like, 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.400 oh crap. One thing that I noticed when I was 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.160 watching the Less several games with Bryce Young at the helm, 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.840 not when the red rifle was in, but I would 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.480 I expect it going in that, considering how impactful to 0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.440 be Hubbard is and the fact you just gave him 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.680 a new contract and everything, that they would play more 0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:01.720 off of him as far as the play action in 0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:04.120 the passing game. But I noticed on film there was 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.080 not a ton of play actions. So I'm like, Okay, 0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.880 maybe this is receiver at all. Yeah, I was like, 0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.120 maybe this is an aberration for this game that I'm watching. 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.120 But then I went and I looked at shouts out 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.600 to next Gen stats, and the numbers bear out what 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:20.520 the film was hinting at. So surprisingly enough, the Carolina 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.800 Panthers and David Canalis, they only run play action twenty 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.120 one ish percent of the time on his dropbacks as far, 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.280 so that's something that the Cowboys won't have to account for. 0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.680 But what it tells me is that one of the 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.840 reasons Canalis has been able to unlock Bryce Young for 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.360 the most part, he understands he's a young quarterback and 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.040 one of Bryce Young's biggest issues when he first came 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.640 into the league and as a rookie, was he wasn't 0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.800 processing quickly enough right. So when you take the play 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.440 action out of the equation, it allows your young quarterback 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.120 to get right into his reads immediately. As opposed to 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:54.960 play action, you turn around and now you're worried about 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:57.360 pressure coming. So there's not going to be a lot 0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.640 of play action. Well, I should say they're they trend 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.520 to not want to run a lot of play actions 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.719 seventy two percent of the time. They just give him 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.800 a straight dropback. Cowboys will have opportunities to get pressure 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:10.520 on him. And if they do that and they can 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.280 get to him and knock him off the spot. This 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:14.600 isn't Joe Burrow. If you're not Young off the spot, 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:18.520 you just won that rep, right, so do it. That's 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.920 that's that works in the Cowboys favor. But it's interesting 0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:23.280 to me, but it does go to what Isaiah's saying 0:33:23.320 --> 0:33:26.720 as far as explaining why Bryce Young is starting to 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.240 do better, because again Canal is he's looking at his 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.040 young quarterback who had trouble with going to get into 0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:33.959 his reas quickly, and he took the play action out 0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:35.480 of the equation for the most part. 0:33:35.520 --> 0:33:36.120 And a. 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.719 Break to the offensive line doesn't have to set up 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.720 for as long, they don't have to hold their blocks 0:33:42.760 --> 0:33:43.280 for as long. 0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:46.120 And the whole play design. 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:48.240 Is based off of these levels that Isaiah's talking about. 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.080 And I mean, I'm looking at one the game winning play. 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.000 I went back and looked at it just like play 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:56.680 concept wise, there wasn't any motion there like no motion 0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:58.400 on this play. It was all set and it was 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.920 really it's just levels, that's all it is. You have 0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:05.200 to get wide open he beat Uh who is this 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:07.800 brad Berry on the outside. There was no safety help 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.320 over the top because the safety was worried about Fling 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.200 on the opposite side. And then there was a guy 0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:15.120 in the middle of the of the the hash marks, 0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:16.359 and then there was a guy right at the line 0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.080 of scrimmage on kind of a drag route over the middle. 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.359 So levels, levels, levels, and you have to sort through 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:25.040 it perfectly or else something like that happens. And that 0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.040 was a hell of a throw from Bryce Young, by. 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:29.400 The way, And to Kyle's point about feeling, I mean, 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:32.040 I think Canalis loves the fact of having a guy 0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:36.560 like Fling who exactly he's versatile, he can do anything. 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.320 On the field receiver. 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:39.680 However, this week he. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.239 Has to go up against Jordan Lewis, and I like that. 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.680 I like that, I like exactly that man, because that's 0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:50.120 a guy similar in size. I'm pretty sure that can 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.480 eliminate Adam Theelin from doing all of the different compts 0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:56.400 and Oklahoma drills to speak. 0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.239 Oh, I mean, if we had Patrick out there, he 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:00.880 can cover the problem. 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:05.000 Yeah, and just by proxy, just because he because he 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.560 would be Jordan Lewis in the Oklahoma drill. 0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.200 We spoke with Joran Lewis, did Josh, but Patrick's on 0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:11.520 I R. 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.680 He can't play this. He's got three more games. 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:14.200 Just so. 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:15.279 We actually went up. 0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:15.839 To Jordan Lewis. 0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.520 Jordy Lewis did say, he said, of course he's a competitor. 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.120 He's going to try to keep me ten out of ten. 0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:22.680 He's gonna try to knock me out ten out of ten. 0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:27.560 But he conceded that he may not win all ten straight. 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:32.239 From that's Jordan Lewis trying to He looked at your 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:38.400 arm and was like, yeah, you know, real quick, I 0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:39.440 know we gotta take another break. 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.399 I want people to understand this is not the same 0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.480 Carolina Panthers from the first half and hours. No, okay, 0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:47.839 I know there's there's been a stigma and the whole 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.399 storyline about the Carolina Panthers and blah blah blah. Listen 0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:54.400 since their bye week and week eleven. Okay, they faced 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:57.239 the Kansas City Chiefs and Definny Champs. Right, they were back, 0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.439 if not for the power of saying back to Champs. 0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:00.600 Right. 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.440 Okay, lost by three, yep, almost took them to the 0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:05.000 white should have really should have won. 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:05.279 Yeah. 0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:05.520 Yeah. 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.920 Then they played the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Crap man how 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.719 you could play Ken City. And then Tampa Bay lost 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:11.080 by three. 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.279 Tampa Bay with Mike Evans back by the way, Yeah, 0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:14.040 lost by three. 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:16.279 Okay, if that's not bad enough. 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.400 Then they played the Philadelphia Eagles and it almost took them. 0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.400 These are three playoff teams, right, yeah, oh yeah, and 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.239 almost took them, right and lost by six. 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:24.439 Yeah. 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.640 So their last three games they have faced three they 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:31.640 placed the defending champs, they face another team that's been 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:33.880 in the conversation, right, then they face another team that 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.799 might be in that conversation this year, and they've lost 0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:41.200 by a total of three six And say, what was 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:42.080 that twelve points? 0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:44.200 Three games? 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:45.759 They're playing well man. 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:46.440 In their defenses. 0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.400 And we'll talk about this, but they have the defenses 0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:51.000 better than the Bengals defense and you could only muster 0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:54.680 twenty points against a historically bad drink. 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.279 We'll talk about it tomorrow though, and we'll talk about 0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:04.319 it with science. 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There's a lot of things 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:53.319 you're gonna have to do right. 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.120 But just my overarching thought process around this game is 0:39:57.160 --> 0:39:59.560 you cannot let the Bengals game beat you twice. 0:39:59.719 --> 0:39:59.759 No. 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.640 Yeah, And you saw, you saw exactly how that could 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.480 play out. After the Amanio A Wario Special Teams Blunder 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.880 and we talked about the drive afterwards and how easy 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.840 it was for Cincinnati to drive down the field. That 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:15.880 could very easily if you don't have their back on 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.439 the practice field today, if you don't have a great 0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.719 week of preparation, great week week of practice and put all. 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:22.239 That behind you. 0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:24.920 Carolina Panthers are going to beat you this week, playing 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.160 and simple. You cannot let that game beat you twice. 0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.600 And it's going to be tough to do that. Even 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.520 I hosted an event last night with Micah and talking 0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.759 with Micah and he's still beating himself up about it 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:41.560 and himself and really he's one of the best motivators 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.000 that you'll ever talk to. And he is all about 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:45.879 the motivation and he's going to be right back after 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:49.000 it again starting today. But yesterday it was just kind 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.560 of a morning period. But you cannot let it pass 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.080 over into today. 0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:53.960 Definitely not one. 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:56.640 And if you don't think that the Carolin Carolina Panthers 0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:58.080 are motivated, you call. 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.839 Them the Carolina the Caroliners that worked. 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.520 We don't think they're motivated to beat the Dallas Cowboys 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.120 this week. Just think back to last year where we 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.160 beat them pretty soundly. But not only that, but we 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:14.200 held a press conference right before the game in Carolina 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.480 to announce that Jimmy Johnson is going. 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:21.400 To be to TV time with the announcement press conference 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:22.480 in Carolina. 0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:27.800 In Carolina, half of the press box was empty because 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:28.040 of it. 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.640 No we were we were here, I was we were 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.960 here remember we were watching with Nates right in the back, 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.680 and they they had the surprise. 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:36.839 Announcement of the Jimmy Johnson thing. 0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:42.600 It completely hijacked the entire day, the whole day, sidelines, 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:43.520 the game. 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:44.600 Everything listen. 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.000 As as a beat writer, let me tell you that 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.080 was logistically a nightmare. 0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:58.640 Yeah, they remember, And they had beef with Nick Eatman too, 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:05.719 by the way, behind the scenes storyline in Carolina, because 0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:09.279 he's about to go find that dude again, and they 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:10.040 are not happy. 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:11.920 I wouldn't be happy if. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:12.200 I were them. 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:16.720 They're gonna be motivated to listen. Bryce Young is playing 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.759 confident in good football. You Behoveard is doing his thing. 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:22.680 You got leget, you got feeling. Canalis has those guys 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.320 believing in themselves on both sides of the ball, and 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.160 they're going to be at Bank of America Stadium. The 0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.720 Panthers crowd is starting to kind of buy in, starting 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.920 to believe. They've been desperate to feel something good. And 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.960 even in a down season that's just wrecked by adversity, 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.759 every team would still look at it win over the 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:46.319 Cowboys as a big deal, and the Panthers will look 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.240 at if they can get this win against the Cowboys, 0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.400 they will use it as a big deal. So mentally, no, 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.920 it's not the same as beating the Eagles if they 0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:56.080 would have last week, or the Bucks if they would 0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.160 have or the Kansas City Chiefs if they would have 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.640 escaped with that win. But psychologically speaking, it's going to 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:03.920 feel just as good for the Panthers to do it 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.480 if they can do it. So if you're if you're 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.839 the Cowboys, like Kyle said, especially on a short week, 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:10.120 which makes it that much more difficult to turn the 0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:13.480 page from such an emotionally shattering loss like you had 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.560 against the Bengals. Because you just said you had the 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:22.520 one on one with Michael yesterday. Okay, well the Panthers 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.320 game is right around the corner. It's right there, and 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.320 Tuesday night Michael was still hurting. 0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.120 Yeah, right, so the. 0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.080 Player's day off, they haven't hit the field. 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:32.640 It is that. 0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:34.920 But also with the I mean, I don't want to 0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.920 keep bringing up injury to Demo, but that takes that hurt, 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:42.719 that hurts significant and it's called what it is. Some 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.520 players have more impact on a lockerom than others. And 0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:49.680 he has a tremendous respect in his locker room. Yes, 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:55.200 and understand. People understand not only his energy, they understand 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:58.759 his his aura, right, his character, his resilience, his work 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.040 ethic that he had to come back from last year's injury, 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.360 and then the impact that he had and the attitude 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.400 that he had and the swag and everything that he 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.560 brought by being on the field this year. Just to 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:12.240 have it taken away again, people feel that just it's 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.279 very deflating and it's very hard to overcome as a 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:14.759 locker room. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.040 Just to add to that point, if you were to 0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:21.800 name the five most impactful players leaders in the Cowboys 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:26.280 locker room right now? Okay, so he's up there, who's 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:27.760 the other guys out of those. 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:35.239 Four and Zach Martin, Lawrence Michaeh, Well, okay, version, but 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:37.000 there's five then right there. 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.680 Four of those guys are out and have not returned yet. 0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.640 Of course d Laws on his way back. But four 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.520 of those guys five, the only one is Micah and 0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:50.439 he missed significant time too. I mean, that's the type 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.880 of season that it's been. Not to make excuses, but 0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.320 it still is. It's it's crazy the amount of injuries 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.239 but have ravaged this locker room. 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.480 But to your point, I mean, and this is poignant 0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.920 because last year, a lot of the conversation was as 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.480 Micah Parsons a leader, You're going to see it in 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.680 the last few games of the season because I mean, now. 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.880 But now he has nobody else. You know, this is 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.360 got CD on the other side. But it's like, this 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.240 is your leader. This is a definitive leader on defense. 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:19.560 This is the biggest test for him. 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.640 I'm not going to just hand him the leadership badge 0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:27.239 in these last games because I truly think if you 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.879 really want to know, I'm not questioning the mass charage. 0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:31.440 I'm just I'm just saying that I'm watching it have 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:34.799 for those that have I'm watching. I'm watching to see 0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:36.800 how he handles the remainder. 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:37.000 Of this season. 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.160 Because even when I was on NFL Networks, you know, 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.040 people were talking about, you know, Micah and how he 0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:44.120 was reacting. I'm like, no, no, no, you were getting 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.080 playoff Micah. In that last game, that was playoff Mike. 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.040 That was playoff Michael, because he which is why he 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.080 walked off like that. That's why you saw his reaction 0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.320 like that, because he was doing literally everything that he 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:59.320 could to impact that game. Because they knew that that 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.480 was most like their last chance to make the playoffs. 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.439 If they won that game, they were still in the picture. 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.640 If they lost that game, pretty much out the picture. 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:09.160 So you got every ounce and to and for that 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.960 to not be enough, that's the reaction that you get. 0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:16.160 So now that your playoff hopes are pretty much gone, 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:17.640 who are you? 0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:20.520 Who are you? To the locker room even more? 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.560 And so now because of the fact that the other 0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.239 leaders are out the picture, Ye, you're the guy that's 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:25.680 on thee. 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.640 How are you now going to react? 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.239 Are you going to just go out there and just 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:31.400 kind of go through the motions or are you going 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.960 to step up and demand excellent from everybody I'm watching? 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:36.080 Yeah, gotta be ready to run through a wall. 0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:38.080 Now. 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.719 I think that's a great point because, and I would 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.759 argue you've already seen that a couple times. Like you 0:46:42.800 --> 0:46:45.480 said you saw playoff Micah last week, I think you've 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.160 seen playoff Micah the last couple of weeks, going back 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:52.719 before Thanksgiving and that game against Washington basically really the 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.200 game against Washington ten was the first time I stepped 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.040 up and said, Okay, that's the Micah we've been waiting 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.359 to see, not just from a sack standpoint. 0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:02.240 And he's always had production and effort. 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:03.000 He's always there. 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.880 That was waterboy Michael last week, he was all over it. 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.919 I'll tell you when it began for me. It began 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.040 for me in training camp when I started to see 0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.800 how he was taking Mozzi Smith under his wing and 0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.239 challenging Mazzie Smith and even when the cameras weren't on 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.040 and the mics weren't on, you would see he and 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.400 Mozzie Smith running drills between practices and things like that, 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.360 and him correcting Mazie like little things that the media 0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.919 is not paying attention to because you know, it wasn't 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.759 during the media portion of practice whatever, and maybe I'm 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.719 just out there and I'm just watching an ox or whatever. 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:38.160 We're there, Yeah, we're there. 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:40.560 So that's when it really started to kind of click 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:41.920 in my head. I was like, wait a minute, I 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:44.200 think this version of Micah that we're about to see 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.040 in twenty twenty four is going to be different. 0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:47.799 And here we are fast forward to now. 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.040 But like you said, that's when hope is on the 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.239 here's the biggest test for Yeah, there's the biggest test. 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.680 Now, here's the biggest teste because right now with who's 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.799 on ir and who's not coming back? Right now? It's 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.560 your team, it's what are you playing for? But there's 0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.320 nothing to play for? Who are you? 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.399 And that's why I say this is the biggest test 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.800 because when you have the potential of the playoffs and 0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:08.680 the potential is still getting a ring and all that 0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:10.240 stuff out there is different. 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.719 It's different than when there's no home for any of 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:13.200 that stuff. 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:15.600 Now, who are you? Right right now? 0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:16.160 Who are now? 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:18.320 You got to get him to play for Pride and 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.319 just to watch him because I mean it's still four 0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:24.399 games and now we talked about this versus team tank. 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:24.719 Right. 0:48:24.880 --> 0:48:26.799 The reason players don't tank is because now you only 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:28.880 have four more games to put good on film. 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:29.480 Right. 0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.719 A lot of these players, because this is a game 0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:34.040 of attrition, A lot of these players, not a lot, 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:36.680 but several of these players will just the fact is 0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.719 they will not be in a Cowboys uniform next year 0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:39.200 part of it. 0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.760 Yeah, that's part of it. Which means they're also interviewing 0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:44.840 for the other thirty one teams as well. So he's not, No, 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:45.400 he's not. 0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:48.280 What I'm saying is this is the type of motivational 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:50.120 messages you look at the locker room. If you're Michael, 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.960 you say, hey, go out on your shield. Go out 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:54.960 on your shield. So I love what Isaiah's saying. This 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:57.600 is the biggest test of leadership for Michael Parsons, and 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:01.480 you hate how it arived, but it's here, and the 0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.880 timing of it is wildly ironic considering what's about to 0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.880 happen in the offseason as far as the beginning of 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:08.719 his contract talk. 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.200 Yeah, definitely gonna be a case and a talking point 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.240 going into it. All right, Tomorrow we preview the Cowboys 0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:18.440 offense versus that Carolina Panthers defense. Like Patrick said earlier, 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.360 this defense is better than what Cincinnati brought to the table. 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.440 Can the Cowboys find a little bit more success on 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.359 the offensive side. It'll be back tomorrow with more nine 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:30.239 am Central Time live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com for 0:49:30.360 --> 0:49:33.680 Chris beeB, Isaiah stand Back, Patrick no Cy Walker, Josh Rodriguez. 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.480 I'm Kyle Yomen saying, so long from Talking Cowboys. We'll 0:49:36.480 --> 0:49:37.080 see you tomorrow. 0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:40.640 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:42.640 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.