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Speaker 1: and man, do we have a lot to cover today?
Speaker 1: A lot has happened in the last week, and we
Speaker 1: know we probably have a lot of questions to get
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Speaker 1: As we give people a chance to do that. We
Speaker 1: know we have all the draft stuff to get to.
Speaker 1: But first, the most recent news we found out about
Speaker 1: the game in Germany that the Buccaneers will play. We
Speaker 1: knew there would be a game in Germany, but now
Speaker 1: we have some more details, so share with everybody what
Speaker 1: we found out. Yeah, this has sort of come out
Speaker 1: in stages, and we got the the international home marketing
Speaker 1: area in Germany, and then that there would be a
Speaker 1: game in Germany, and then that we were going to
Speaker 1: be the designated host team in Germany. Now we found
Speaker 1: out as of yesterday that our opponent will be the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks and the date of the game is Sunday,
Speaker 1: novem it'll be three h there, but I'll be nine
Speaker 1: thirty here, So you get to wake up have Buccaneer
Speaker 1: football before you even if I have to have lunch,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you can enjoy the rest of
Speaker 1: the day for so you get just the Buccaneers in
Speaker 1: the morning. That'll be a lot of fun. But it's
Speaker 1: a groundbreaking game because it's the first game ever to
Speaker 1: be played, the first NFL even preseason, but the first
Speaker 1: regular season game ever to be played in Germany. It's
Speaker 1: it's a big step forward for the NFL and German
Speaker 1: Germany has a really solid NFL fan based already. I'm
Speaker 1: certain that seventy seed Stadum is gonna be packed. Uh.
Speaker 1: That's there's a lot of rabid NFL fans there and
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to be the first team representing that,
Speaker 1: and it's a good game for for Germany, for the
Speaker 1: German fans to get. Um. It's in Munich, by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said that. Um, it's the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: The last two years have won a Super Bowl. They
Speaker 1: tied for the best record in the league in the
Speaker 1: regular season last year. Tom Brady is still there, so
Speaker 1: it's obviously a marquee team for for that game and
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I know they didn't make the playoffs last year,
Speaker 1: but that was the first time in four years. They
Speaker 1: pretty much been in the playoffs almost every year for
Speaker 1: the last twelve years. They moved on from Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: They have some things to figure out, but I still
Speaker 1: think it's a very talented roster. It's a team that's
Speaker 1: going to be fighting for a playoff spot. So it's
Speaker 1: a great matchup for the German fans to get a
Speaker 1: chance to see. And it's really exciting for the Bucket,
Speaker 1: it really is. I can't wait. It's going to be
Speaker 1: so cool. And also it kind of helps us know
Speaker 1: a couple of things about the schedule, which we will
Speaker 1: find out the full schedule in a week, but we
Speaker 1: know now that game and most likely it means that
Speaker 1: the bye week would be the next week. That usually
Speaker 1: they give you the bye week after an international game.
Speaker 1: So a couple of little insights there potentially to the schedule.
Speaker 1: But of course for everybody wanting to know the full schedule.
Speaker 1: One week from now we will know the entirety of
Speaker 1: the Buccaneer schedule, and of course there's gonna be very fun.
Speaker 1: Schedule release video to go with it. Teaser alert always
Speaker 1: is that will come out on a show at eight
Speaker 1: o'clock and that's when the Buccaneers will also post all
Speaker 1: that information. But at six o'clock every team that night,
Speaker 1: that's next Thursday, every team is allowed to announce their
Speaker 1: first home game, so we'll get a little bit of
Speaker 1: information before in two. Okay, well, let's dive into some
Speaker 1: of the draft information. We know that's been on everybody's
Speaker 1: minds for the last week or so, and of course
Speaker 1: for months we were talking about what we thought the
Speaker 1: Books would do, and now we can officially talk about
Speaker 1: these new additions to the roster. So first, let's go
Speaker 1: ahead and talk about their first pick that ended up
Speaker 1: happening a little later than anticipated. Yeah, to me, that
Speaker 1: that was my favorite part of the whole draft. That trade.
Speaker 1: We were all kind of hoping that would happen because
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty you know, they said so afterwards,
Speaker 1: but I think we felt pretty we feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about the accuracy of the information that at twenty seven
Speaker 1: the Books had five players on their list. They felt
Speaker 1: pretty similarly about and so if you can trade back
Speaker 1: and get some more assets, out of that and still
Speaker 1: get one of those guys. It's the perfect outcome. And
Speaker 1: it was close. Apparently they said there were four of
Speaker 1: the five were gone, but I do think that um
Speaker 1: Logan Hall, who we ended up taking was one of
Speaker 1: the guys. It was very much in consideration number twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Um so to move back, that's where Shod White to
Speaker 1: move back and get Logan Hall, Um the guy you
Speaker 1: might have taken at twenty seven. You pick up the
Speaker 1: first pick in rounds four in six, and they ended
Speaker 1: up using that sixth round pick to help the trade
Speaker 1: up in the in the second round. We'll be talking
Speaker 1: about Luke Atkin a minute, but also the foreth round
Speaker 1: pick became Kate dot and a tied in from Washington
Speaker 1: that we wouldn't have gotten on the or if we
Speaker 1: would have gotten him, we might have had to trade up,
Speaker 1: or we got the next guy that we got it.
Speaker 1: So so it was uh, I love the player. Casey Rodgers,
Speaker 1: defensive line coach and run game coordinator on defense, said
Speaker 1: on Tuesday when some of the assistant coaches were speaking
Speaker 1: that he talked about his measurables six three. I think
Speaker 1: we got a screenshot for a six six two and
Speaker 1: three pounds, his speed, four point eight eight in the
Speaker 1: forty yard dash, his length. He said, he's basically the prototype,
Speaker 1: exactly what you want in a four and a three four,
Speaker 1: basically what you can in it's it's just an interior alignment,
Speaker 1: but in three four you call the nose tackling two
Speaker 1: ends and um, you know, he's just exactly what the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers would look for in that position. And he's productive
Speaker 1: six point five six and thirteen point five tackles for
Speaker 1: last last year that got him first team All Conference honors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I mean, that's gonna look really good, you know,
Speaker 1: playing next to Will Golston. And of course a lot
Speaker 1: of people have wondered, what does this mean for either
Speaker 1: or not the Bucks might resign in Dominican sue. So
Speaker 1: what have you heard about that? Well, I don't think
Speaker 1: it means anything. I mean, if the Buccaneers would still
Speaker 1: bring back in Dominican sue, if both sides wanted that,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if we have evidence of that
Speaker 1: at this point. But it also does give you what
Speaker 1: you need in case you don't get in Dominicans back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. All right, Well, let's talk about the second pick.
Speaker 1: You kind of mentioned uh Luke Gett a key earlier,
Speaker 1: the guard. So what did you think of this pick
Speaker 1: and where you uh? Was this what you expected in
Speaker 1: terms of the position where in the draft that position
Speaker 1: was taken. Well, it kind of speaks to the way
Speaker 1: a lot of mock drafters leading into the draft really
Speaker 1: actual draft, we're giving the Buccaneers a guard like Zion
Speaker 1: Johnson or somebody in the first round. As it turns out,
Speaker 1: both of the guards that everybody was mocked to twenty
Speaker 1: seven more long gone by then. But I think the
Speaker 1: Buckneers were able to do that anyway, They're able to
Speaker 1: hit that perceived need by getting a guy they can
Speaker 1: immediately put in a competition with Aaron Stinney for the
Speaker 1: left guard spot. And that's exactly what the Buccaneers said.
Speaker 1: As soon as the draft, I mean, I got the UH,
Speaker 1: I got the privilege to talk to John spy Tach.
Speaker 1: He came out of the draft room and gave me
Speaker 1: a little bit up. They told me about this guy,
Speaker 1: and he said right away he's gonna be uh in
Speaker 1: competition with Aaron Stinny for the left card spot. So
Speaker 1: that's good that you have that in no matter who
Speaker 1: wins that spot, that obviously greatly improves the depth depth.
Speaker 1: But the Buccaneers are pretty aptly I think filled the
Speaker 1: difficult need that was created when Alex Cappell left and
Speaker 1: Ali Marpett retired and you lost both of your starting
Speaker 1: guards from what had been a very good offensive line.
Speaker 1: Now you know, you have Shack Mason locked in on
Speaker 1: one side, and he got really good competition from a
Speaker 1: couple of players you like on the other side. So
Speaker 1: it's it's making me feel good about the offensive line
Speaker 1: going forward. He had a very good year at Central
Speaker 1: Michigan where we got Sewn Murphy punting from so he
Speaker 1: enjoyed going back to that. Well, first team a conference
Speaker 1: as well. PFF Pro Football Focus really liked his run
Speaker 1: blocking last year, so that's good. And then, uh, you
Speaker 1: know he played mostly tackle but definitely projecting his guard
Speaker 1: in the in the NFL. Yeah, He's got such an
Speaker 1: interesting story of you know, in a tight end originally
Speaker 1: in high school, not recruited at all, walks on somewhere
Speaker 1: plays tight end. You know, maybe I want to try
Speaker 1: this goes ends up at Central, is going to eventually
Speaker 1: to transition over the offensive line, and how much weight
Speaker 1: he had to gain. He talked about he was eating
Speaker 1: like seven thousand calories a day, which I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you even know. I mean, I take
Speaker 1: that back, if you give me a gallon of ice cream,
Speaker 1: I could probably it probably wasn't so how I don't
Speaker 1: think that's what he was doing. I don't think that
Speaker 1: would have been the best way to do it. Be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to watch that whole battle in
Speaker 1: the interior of the line and how that shakes out.
Speaker 1: And then our third pick were shot White running back
Speaker 1: out of a s U. What did you think of
Speaker 1: this pick and what he could mean to this offense? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean you he pretty much slots right into where
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones was. Um, you've lost Ronald Jones to free agency.
Speaker 1: Learn Fournett resigned and for several years he's probably still
Speaker 1: your lead back. But this guy really is. I think
Speaker 1: we all were sort of hoping that would find somebody
Speaker 1: that is a nice pass catching back, so it could
Speaker 1: really be complimentary to learn Fournett. And when I saw
Speaker 1: when we first drafted him, I saw six to two ten.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, Wow, that's thing exactly what expecting. You know,
Speaker 1: you're thinking more of a the backfield guy to be
Speaker 1: like a smaller, quicker guy, but in fact he's just
Speaker 1: a big running back like Alvin Kamara type who also
Speaker 1: is a very good pass catcher. So and he can
Speaker 1: run between the tackles. He's probably little bit better on
Speaker 1: outside zone runs and stuff like that, but he's got
Speaker 1: what Don spy Tych called a smooth slashing style. So h,
Speaker 1: I think he's a really nice compliment. I think he'll
Speaker 1: probably get a lot of play in our offense. You
Speaker 1: see there he was very efficiently. I don't think he
Speaker 1: got as much action as some of the all you
Speaker 1: know lead backs around the league, around the college ranks,
Speaker 1: but per per touch, I mean six point three years
Speaker 1: per carry, ten point six years per catches, fantastic for
Speaker 1: running back. And I think he played only fifteen games
Speaker 1: that Arizona State, but he averaged nearly a hundred yards
Speaker 1: per game out of the backfield. So um, you're really
Speaker 1: an exciting another piece for a team. And what I
Speaker 1: like about all three of these picks and a couple
Speaker 1: of the others two is that even on a loaded
Speaker 1: roster that the Buccaneers obviously have a roster that everybody
Speaker 1: thinks is going to compete for a Super Bowl again.
Speaker 1: With Tom Brady back and a bunch of the other
Speaker 1: guys that we were able to resign and some guys
Speaker 1: that we added. I still think that the Buccaneers drafted
Speaker 1: players who can make an immediate impact if things go right.
Speaker 1: Logan Hall should definitely be playing a lot right from
Speaker 1: the get go. Uh Luke Getticky could win the starting
Speaker 1: left guard left guard spot, and Rashad White they should
Speaker 1: be able to work him in the offense right away.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty incredibly because I think we've talked about
Speaker 1: that of position of need, best player available, but and
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you typically here. But then the
Speaker 1: what about the who can help us now because of
Speaker 1: which is where we know we are with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and the Bucks overall, that that was definitely a big
Speaker 1: factor as well. So those are the top three picks.
Speaker 1: So after that, what are some of the things that
Speaker 1: stand out to you about potentially the other picks and
Speaker 1: what they did in some of those later rounds that
Speaker 1: sometimes don't get as much attention. But we've seen that
Speaker 1: you can find some pretty big impact players. And I
Speaker 1: like the fact that so after the trade down in
Speaker 1: the first round. The Buccaneers ended up with the first
Speaker 1: pick in the second round and the first pick in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, which means they had the first pick
Speaker 1: on those two days of the draft. And when you're
Speaker 1: picking first on the second or third day, you and
Speaker 1: the other teams around the league have had a whole
Speaker 1: day practically to look at where they are, look at
Speaker 1: who they really want. Do we need to make a
Speaker 1: trade up. And the Buccaneers, I'm certain got phone calls
Speaker 1: on both of those days, especially in the second round
Speaker 1: when you know none of the quarterbacks have been taken,
Speaker 1: and as it turned out, they all slipped to the
Speaker 1: third round. But um, I know they got calls for
Speaker 1: the second round pick. But in both cases, the Bucks
Speaker 1: stayed put because they really wanted the player that they
Speaker 1: had there, and they started the fourth round with Kay
Speaker 1: dot And. And I just wanted to point out here,
Speaker 1: I'm not bragging or anything, but in the mock draft
Speaker 1: I did in March, I think where I picked all
Speaker 1: the Bucks rounds picks, I predicted Kay dot And in
Speaker 1: the fourth Wow. Although usually if you start a sentence
Speaker 1: with I'm not bragging, but it why I'm not bragging
Speaker 1: because I don't want you to ask me any other
Speaker 1: questions about any of my other predictions. Let's just focus
Speaker 1: on the fact that everything else is irrelevant. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't the hundred six pick because we didn't have that
Speaker 1: pick yet. It was one thirty three, but but still
Speaker 1: count it. That's incredible to predict anything after like the
Speaker 1: four picks, and even that we saw a lot of
Speaker 1: people got the first pick on it shows like that's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. All the drafts were just blown up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody got much right, So now you just need to
Speaker 1: throw that just tweet that out every now and then
Speaker 1: I can't because then you'd have to again look at
Speaker 1: what what what else did you get? Pretty much it's like,
Speaker 1: um uh, I think Jason Lighte said about luke k
Speaker 1: he said his his hobbies are weightlifting. End. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: about it, and so I got the right and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about it. But yeah, that's pretty great. So what
Speaker 1: are some of the guys in particular that you think
Speaker 1: could potentially have an impact on this team after the
Speaker 1: first three picks? Then we always talk about that of
Speaker 1: are are there chances for these late round guys to
Speaker 1: make the roster and maybe even make an impact. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: obviously if you take a punter in the fourth round,
Speaker 1: you expect him to battle for those drive You're probably
Speaker 1: gonna keep one punter, so um, you're expecting him probably
Speaker 1: to win the punting job. And uh, obviously your punter
Speaker 1: is gonna make a big impact. So they really liked him.
Speaker 1: He They really liked him because he can do a lot.
Speaker 1: He has a big leg Jake Camarda we're talking about
Speaker 1: from j He has a big leg, but he also can.
Speaker 1: He also has a lot of hanging time, so he
Speaker 1: and he can. He's good at like the pooch punts.
Speaker 1: He's good at angling punts, so they can do a
Speaker 1: lot of different things with him. And he's also like
Speaker 1: Bradley Pinion, he's done a great job as a part
Speaker 1: for years now. He's also a really good kickoff guy
Speaker 1: and he can pretty much give you touchbacks at will.
Speaker 1: I think he had touchbacks on like seventy one six
Speaker 1: kickoffs or something like that at Georgia. But he also
Speaker 1: is good at kind of mortar kicking. That's when you
Speaker 1: kind of kick it high but have it come down
Speaker 1: shy of the goal line and hope that you have
Speaker 1: you're given your cover team and tough time to actually
Speaker 1: get the tacklings twenty so I think they feel really
Speaker 1: good about what he can do in a lot of
Speaker 1: different ways. Yeah, and then Keith Armstarn talked about the
Speaker 1: fact that he also is incredibly fast and played baseball
Speaker 1: and can throw, which was like, look at that that,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Keith was thrown in the whole.
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll do more than for us, which, of course
Speaker 1: I want to be like Keith, stop saying that. Need
Speaker 1: people to know this, Well, they ran a four or
Speaker 1: five s. Yeah, I'm prettyure people would have probably figured
Speaker 1: that out all on their own. Like the fact that
Speaker 1: they can throw. Now, yeah, we don't do the fake
Speaker 1: punts very often. Yeah, I would enjoy that. I think
Speaker 1: that that would be a fun little part to throw
Speaker 1: in there on that. All right, well we're going to
Speaker 1: get some of your questions now. Um okay, So Richard said,
Speaker 1: which pick do you think is the person we got
Speaker 1: with the best value? And he said, I like Zion McCollum,
Speaker 1: which I realized we didn't even talk about. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the next pick. And the Buccaneers actually when they
Speaker 1: when they drafted Jake Kamartha, the punter in the late
Speaker 1: fourth round. At that point, it looked like there weren't
Speaker 1: gonna have anything to do for about five hours because
Speaker 1: the next pick was late in the seventh round. But
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers a Zion mc callum falling. Basically, they look
Speaker 1: at their board and he's standing all alone, like he's
Speaker 1: the last guy in the tier that they're in on cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: like this is worth the value of next year's fourth
Speaker 1: to jump back in here and get this guy in
Speaker 1: the fifth round. And honestly, from what I've read, most
Speaker 1: analysts thought he would have been drafted earlier. And it's
Speaker 1: basically because of his size speed combination. It's kind of
Speaker 1: he's kind of a unicorn. You just don't see a
Speaker 1: lot of guys with the speed that he has, like
Speaker 1: a like a four three forty, but also his size,
Speaker 1: his length, which is the type of cornerback that Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles loves in his defense. And uh, and you actually
Speaker 1: you had a lot of production at Sam Houston State. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if you have production and these incredible measurables, you would
Speaker 1: expect him to go a lot higher. You know, this
Speaker 1: is maybe a first or second round corner. But it's
Speaker 1: the competition level that probably makes them fall a little bit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, really exciting prospect there. Probably has some work
Speaker 1: to do, you know, in order to to refine technique
Speaker 1: and things like that, but you're not asking to step in.
Speaker 1: They want to be a starter. Your your best bed
Speaker 1: going in season, your best case scenarios, that he's your
Speaker 1: fourth corner, and that that guy is probably gonna be
Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, that guy is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be needed at some point. But that that's good. I
Speaker 1: think you answered the question there on the value. Okay, Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he Uh, that's what Richard had said is
Speaker 1: who he picked for it. So it sounds like we're
Speaker 1: all in agreement to agree with him. Um, all right.
Speaker 1: So Brenda asked what's going on with Gronks? I think
Speaker 1: meaning also the fact that we drafted two tight ends,
Speaker 1: So a similar question of what we talked about with
Speaker 1: what does Logan Hall mean for resigning Sue, I'm sure
Speaker 1: two tight ends drafted? What does this mean with Gronk? Again?
Speaker 1: I think even more strongly with Gronkowski, it doesn't really
Speaker 1: change anything. I think the Bucks want Gronkowski back. I
Speaker 1: think at some point Tom Brady is going to convince
Speaker 1: him to come back. He may already be convinced to
Speaker 1: come back. He's just working on his own timetable. I
Speaker 1: don't know anybody who looks at this situation and thinks
Speaker 1: he's not coming back, But you know, he's he's his
Speaker 1: own guy. Maybe he's sitting there and has no intention
Speaker 1: to come back, but most I'm in the camp that
Speaker 1: believes he will return, which is great. Right away, you
Speaker 1: can see that two tight end sets with Gronkowski and
Speaker 1: and earned kay Dot and you'd probably get utilized quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Kaid's a very good and willing blocker, and
Speaker 1: that's that's why he's a guy that they call a
Speaker 1: y tight end that can line up in line and
Speaker 1: not just a guy that you know that's a receiver
Speaker 1: in a tight ends body. And he's a reliable set
Speaker 1: of hands. He's not as down the field talented in
Speaker 1: athletic as rock Groundkowski, but he would make a very nice,
Speaker 1: complicated yeah, he'd he'd make a very nice compliment to him.
Speaker 1: And then co Keef, the Titan taken in the seventh round,
Speaker 1: is essentially a really good blocker and he loves it.
Speaker 1: He is very very exciting about it. He likes blocking,
Speaker 1: which is fine with blocking. Yes, I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, that's going to do it for us
Speaker 1: on this edition of Buccaneers Insider Life presented by Miller Ltte. Thanks,
Speaker 1: as always for joining us and for those questions, and
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time.