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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kick Off

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Speaker 1: live right here on Giants dot Com. John Schmulk paulled

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Speaker 1: to Tina with you to We'll take your calls throughout

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Speaker 1: the program. We'll take them a little bit later and

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Speaker 1: more so than early, because in a few minutes we'll

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Speaker 1: have Paul Schwartz of the New York Post. Um kind

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Speaker 1: of get somebody else's take. I'm sure you're hearing stick

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Speaker 1: of hearing from me, Paul Lance over the past few weeks.

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Speaker 1: So trying a new voice on here, kind of talk

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Speaker 1: about where the Giants are. We're not gonna revisit, you know,

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Speaker 1: what the Giants should have done with the draft at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback in Barkley. We're through that. Um, we talked

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Speaker 1: about it for three months, So I don't want to

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Speaker 1: revisit that. I kind of want to look forward now

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Speaker 1: and kind of see what's next with you. Kind of

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Speaker 1: have an idea of what the team looks like Rookie

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Speaker 1: Minicamp coming, and that's kind of what we're gonna dress

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Speaker 1: with Paul. Yeah. Right now the Giants have on their

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Speaker 1: roster going into the rookie Mini camp, which opens tomorrow. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they are allowed nineties you guys know by the time

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Speaker 1: camp in the end of July. And that doesn't include

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Speaker 1: that includes the drafted players. Correct in that one. The

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Speaker 1: eighty one includes the six draft picks because it's my

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Speaker 1: even though the concots aren't technically signed there on that

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Speaker 1: if you want to take those six off at I

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Speaker 1: hear you, you know, But the point is that does

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Speaker 1: leave quite a bit of riggle room for undrafted rookie

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Speaker 1: for training camp. Yeah, of course, and uh, we'll see

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Speaker 1: when the Giants announced their undrafted free agent signings. That

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet. We hope to get it before practice

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Speaker 1: starts tomorrow. So we have a roster you know who's

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Speaker 1: they can't practice unless they're side I'm just kidding. And

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Speaker 1: of course the rookies um arrived much later on today

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Speaker 1: and then working mini caamp on Friday and Saturday. Will

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Speaker 1: coverage of that for you right here on giants dot

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Speaker 1: com to talk about that and everything else going on

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Speaker 1: with the New York Football Giants is Paul Shortz. He's

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Speaker 1: covered the Giants for the New York Post. I believe

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Speaker 1: he is the senior most person on the beat these days.

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Speaker 1: I'm not counting you, Paul. I know you're the most senior.

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take I'm a dinosaurs. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even a person. I would call you a fossil, and

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Speaker 1: I would call Paul the dinosaur. Paul, how are you fossil?

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Jim fossil. That's actually the one coach

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Speaker 1: called Paul doesn't want to talk about. All right, Paul,

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Speaker 1: you know we've we've kind of rehashed the draft a

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Speaker 1: million times, six ways some Saturday. So let's let's let's

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Speaker 1: move past that, um the team in general, and let's

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Speaker 1: start with a big picture thing first. When you take

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Speaker 1: a look at this roster, what part of it, position

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Speaker 1: That worries me a little bit. Well, I think my

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Speaker 1: and it seems to me at this point the Giants

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Speaker 1: we're going to get pressure with your scheme, with your

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Speaker 1: the juice and the talent that Pat Shermer has on

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Speaker 1: you can't address everything with the draft and everything with

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Speaker 1: think primarily when I look at this team now, it

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Speaker 1: They have not developed. So I think Lorenzo Carter has

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Speaker 1: which is still to be determined. Yeah, for sure. Last

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Speaker 1: but but um, those players are not pass rushers. You know.

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Speaker 1: They're not really going to They're going to have to

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Speaker 1: And that is a legitimate question mark for this team

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Speaker 1: right now. And well, where's the competition coming from? Is?

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Speaker 1: I think you mentioned the three quote unquote starting cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: Where's competition coming for from? Those two for those two

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Speaker 1: You know, Paul I had said the same thing about

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Speaker 1: of town, and he didn't do himself a lot of favors,

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00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 1: is you know, it was you know, pretty much football malpractice.

430
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 1: What what the offensive line turned into with Ben McAdoo

431
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: was the head coach, I defy anyone to run a

432
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 1: cohesive offense, knowing you have to do so much to

433
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 1: mitigate against pressure, against um, you know, looking down the field,

434
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: against holding the ball for along. I mean, really, it

435
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: was not. It was not an NFL caliber offensive line

436
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: certainly last year and um, yeah, the big play should

437
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: be back. And then once Oldell went out, it was

438
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: there was basically no offense to to watch it all. Paul,

439
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 1: in honor of Jeff Beagles, I want to turn the

440
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: conversation to special teams because the Giant special teams last

441
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: year did not fare very well at all, and that

442
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 1: is an understatement. I think we are all aware of that.

443
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: How do you think this is going to shake out?

444
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: Do you think Gross Sauce will win the job again

445
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: for the second year in a row and kind of

446
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: turn around some of his misfortune? I mean, I'm sure

447
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: we all believe a veteran is going to be brought

448
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 1: in over the summer to at least compete with him. Uh,

449
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: they went and got a punter, okay, a veteran putter

450
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: from Denver, so I'm sure they probably believe he's the

451
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: right guy or they wouldn't have made the trade for him.

452
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: And then of course there's the return game, which I

453
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know is Sterling Shepard right now? The most accomplished

454
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: returner they have probably is Hunter Sharp. Maybe the most

455
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: accomplished kick would turn around this roster probably Where where

456
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,479
Speaker 1: do you see that going for sake on Barkley. Yeah, right,

457
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: if you're going to do that. Yeah. I like the

458
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: question to Sherman when he was asked, you know, Kwan

459
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: had a you know, in or hundred yard kickoff return

460
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: for Penn State. What do you think you're using him there?

461
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: And and and Sherman was like, um, thinking, let me

462
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: think of a delicate way to say this. No, you

463
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: know he's not gonna be returning kickoffs. Now. You know what,

464
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: if they're down by a touchdown and you know, getting

465
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: the ball, then maybe you have O'Dell and sa Kwan

466
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: lined up back and uh, you hope the guy doesn't

467
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: kick it out of the end zone and maybe you

468
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: try it there. But no, you know, look, I mean

469
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: I think the special teams right now is an unquestioned um,

470
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 1: huge question mark huge um. Do I think Aldrick Rosas

471
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: is going to be the starting kicker on the opening day?

472
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: I would bet against it, you know, I mean, he

473
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 1: had a shaky rookie year, as you would expect. Um,

474
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: he's he's a he's a he's a fast ball pitcher.

475
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: You know, he's got a great arm, he's got a

476
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: great leg. He can kick the heck out of the ball.

477
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: But he's not very consistent. There was some very troubling

478
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: signs last year. Um, I think he's a good guy.

479
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: You know. Is he mentally tough? I'm not sure. I'm

480
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: not sure about that. He didn't show great mental toughness

481
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: last year. Um, but he was a rookie and and

482
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: you know, and and and and I think you guys

483
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: would agree with me. If the Giants were, you know,

484
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: nine and five, nine and six heading down the stretch,

485
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: they would have replaced him with a more reliable kicker

486
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: and and said, look, we can't have this guy costing

487
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: us games. But Quentz so hey wire that it didn't matter. Uh.

488
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: They just figured let's just stick with him and see

489
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: what he could do. Um. You know the punter, Um,

490
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, do you know he was a very so

491
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 1: so punter in two years at Denver. Do I think

492
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the punter? I'm not sure about that.

493
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: I think if he has a couple of bad days

494
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 1: in the summer or in the preseason, they'll sign somebody else. So,

495
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: as you mentioned the return game, there's nothing proven right there.

496
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: Right now. I think it's it's something that there is

497
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating, as assascinating as special teams

498
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: can be in the summer. I think this will be

499
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: uh fascinating because I think kicker, punter, punt return, kick return,

500
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: or all open right now, you know what's funny before

501
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: you get to those numbers on black, You know the

502
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: thing about it is hardly anybody really talks about that.

503
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: And the bottom line is this team is not gonna

504
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: be good enough to just blow people away, especially with

505
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: some of the questions we've talked about on the depth chart.

506
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: I position field position is gonna be huge, and so

507
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: are getting points every time you're in scoring range. You're

508
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to deal with a missed forty

509
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: three yard field goal that's gonna leave you empty on

510
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: that offensive trip. That's gonna be very painful for this team.

511
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: They can't afford those those things. The margin of error

512
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be very slim ball, don't you think, well

513
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: at this point, at this point it has to be

514
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: a huge question mark. And if you're saying is it

515
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: a positive or negative? Right now, it's a negative. There's

516
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: no question. I mean, you can't just assume it's going

517
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: to be good. There's a new coordinator, he's he's like

518
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: we mentioned that they could be a new punter. There's

519
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: going to be a new kicker, or there will be

520
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: a new punter. I mean it could be even another

521
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: new one. Right the days of saying we have you know,

522
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: Fiegals and times we have Weatherford and times, you know,

523
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the years of thinking, you know, we pretty much we

524
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: have Dominic Hickson as a return guy. Um, you know,

525
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: maybe not great but pretty good, reliable, we have we

526
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: know what we have there, Uh, those days are not

527
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: here right now. There's question about it. So that is

528
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: something that this coaching staff is going to have to

529
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: get right this summer. And and do they have to

530
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: be the best in the league. No, but you have

531
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: to be good, there's no question about it. You cannot

532
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: rely on lousy kicking and lousy punting and guys dropping

533
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: a ball on on punt returns. You know, you know

534
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: things it's mitigated this. You know, obviously kickoff returns are

535
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: not the the issues that they were because of the

536
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: new rules and things like that. We know that punters

537
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: do a much better job usually of getting the ball

538
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: to the boundaries or kicking it out of bounds. It's

539
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: not what it once was. But you know as what

540
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: Bill Parcel has always said, you can't take the foot

541
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: out of football. There will be games that will be

542
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: one and lost with it, and and right now they

543
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: are to be kind work in progress. Paul uh Paulo

544
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: here put me on the spot yesterday. Had he come

545
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: up with some over number over under numbers for s

546
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley in his rookie season with the Giants. I'm

547
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: gonna throw out some numbers to me. You tell me

548
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: if you think he's gonna go over or under these numbers. Okay? Sure, Now,

549
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: obviously the first the most important over under his games played.

550
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: But I guess we're assuming he's going to be playing

551
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: a good chunk of the year. So okay, for for

552
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: everyone's sake, let's assume sixteen games, will he have more

553
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: or less of or than two hundred and seventy carries?

554
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: You see? Now you're gonna make me go to a calculator. Okay, Paul,

555
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 1: I can tell you because I did the math myself,

556
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: that equals I believe that was seventeen carries seventeen rushing

557
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: attempts per game. Yes, um, I will say, under, okay, um,

558
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: how about eleven hundred and ninety yards. That came out

559
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: to around four point four yards per carry on the

560
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: two seventy carries over the course of the year. Rushing

561
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: right over, okay, so you're gonna go over four and

562
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: a half on the rushing average, six touchdowns over okay.

563
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: Now the receptions, and I think this is where it

564
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: gets tricky, and it gets real tricky. Sixty eight over

565
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: under should be the over under reception should be about nineties. No, okay,

566
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kidding. Okay, go ahead. Sixty eight catches divided

567
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: by sixteen equals four point to five. Um, I will

568
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: bet pulled the Teino's salary that it's over. Okay. Wow,

569
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: by the way, that is not that expensive. Of that

570
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: might get your pizza. And then six and seventy five

571
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: receiving yards. Uh, let's uh okay, let's see. Let me

572
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: just do a little thing if I six, I see

573
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: about God, this exactly what I did yesterday. Like my accountants.

574
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: It's a gut field, all right, you're gonna be playing

575
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: through the nose. Son No that. Um, I would say,

576
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: that's a lot of yards, but that's ten yards to

577
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: carry with about sixty five I'm gonna say over though,

578
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: I mean that this guy is. They didn't draft this

579
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: guy to sit and and this is the new age

580
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: running back. They're gonna throw to him a lot. That's

581
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: why I said under with the rushing attempts because I

582
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna they have other guys who can

583
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: do that. You know, you can throw a Wayne Goldman

584
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: in for a series. Um. You know, so I think

585
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: under eighteen rushing attempts certainly something that could happen. But

586
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: they gonna throw this you know, he's a three down back,

587
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: so first down, second down, third down, check down, any down,

588
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: he's tink gonna be thrown in the ball. So I

589
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: like his um, his um. You know, rushing numbers to

590
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: be very high. Pass catching numbers, it's in total basically

591
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: towns and h and four receiving touchdowns Yeah, sure over

592
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: over not alright? So basically so so you think of

593
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: more than ten touchdowns from scrimmage because you had over

594
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: on both touchdowns, and you would over on both rushing

595
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: yards and receiving yards. Do you think he's gonna have, Paul,

596
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: You think he's probably gonna have two thousand yards from scrimmage?

597
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: Then right, give or take. If you have him over

598
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: twelve hundred. Always say I would say under two thousand,

599
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: but not a lot under I would say, Okay, so, Paul,

600
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean that is assuming he's gonna play all Yeah,

601
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: of course. I mean, look, I mean this is this

602
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: is generational running backs that not are not coddled, you

603
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And and and um, you know,

604
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: running backs don't need to They don't need a lot

605
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: of uh you know, growing space. They can they can

606
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: flourish right away. This guy can flourish right away. Yeah. Well,

607
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, Paul, I I had him for

608
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: about seventeen however, totally yards from scrimmage, so we're really

609
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: not all were somewhat in the same ballpark. And you

610
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: know when when the people at the combine started throwing

611
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: around pro comparisons, and they were saying Marshall Falk, Thomas,

612
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: Roger Craig. I mean, Craig's not in the Hall of Fame, right,

613
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: but but the other two guys are, and and lord knows,

614
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: if if he is anything like those guys for a decade,

615
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I think the Giants will be very happy. Exactly. Well,

616
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the word you just said is the

617
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: word A decade that was the big knock on a

618
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: running back, right, is that he's gonna be great for

619
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 1: five six years. And that's it, you know what I mean.

620
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: We can take a defensive player, he can be great

621
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: for a decade or more, which you know is statistically correct.

622
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: But who the heck knows, you know what I mean,

623
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: who the heck knows who's going to be durable and

624
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: who's not going to be You know, it doesn't there's

625
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: no mathematical formula that can tell you that. But I'll

626
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: tell you one thing. You know, he's two hundred and

627
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: thirty three pounds Marshall falk on his best day, you

628
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: know it was was two pounds or something. So um,

629
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Speaker 1: you know they look. I mean, it all ends up.

630
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, if you spit out the numbers in a

631
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: computer for what you want, he will spit out, say

632
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley. Um will it work? It should? Nobody knows,

633
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: but um, you know it's gonna You're gonna have to

634
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: convince me why this guy is not gonna be a

635
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: really really terrific players. All you know you're gonna have

636
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: to get you know, you're gonna have to give me

637
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: and and I don't I don't think anyone could even

638
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: say that. The whole question is is he gonna be

639
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: great and is gonna be durable? And that we don't

640
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: know yet. Paul, final question for me, and I got

641
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: to throw this out there because I know you and

642
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: I probably had more respect for Tiki Barber and his

643
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: skill set than anybody in the New York media. Will

644
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: he by the time he has done, We'll say, Kwan Barkley, question,

645
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: match Tikey Barber's numbers for this franchise. And again to

646
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: refresh you, we're talking over ten thousand yards rushing. We're

647
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: talking over five thousand yards receiving. We're talking over five

648
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: seventy five career receptions. By the time Barkley's done, Will

649
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: he have Tiki Barber like career numbers for the Giants?

650
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: It's funny. I asked Tiki about this before the draft,

651
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: and Tiki is a big sake. Kwan Barkley, Guya, Kwan

652
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: Barkley guy, And he said, oh yeah, he's you know,

653
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: I said, because he said the Giants should take Barkley,

654
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. And I said, you know

655
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: your records are gonna go like he said, well, so

656
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: be it. He's gonna break my records. You know, um, um, well,

657
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: a couple of things played ten years, right, and he

658
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: was healthy and played ten years, so that's a great

659
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't full time for all those years. But remember

660
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: the first four or five years of his career, he

661
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: was a I wouldn't say a part time back, but

662
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: he was a third down back. He was in a rotation.

663
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: You know. His Hall of Fame type credentials happened at

664
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: the back end of his career. They are not gonna

665
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a soft landing for s Q.

666
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be jumped right in. So if he plays

667
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: a decade, he will shatter Tiki Barber's record and Paul. Finally,

668
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: I guess I should mention this before we say goodbye

669
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: and and thank you for giving us all the time today,

670
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: Um rookie minicamp tomorrow, I'm gonna burst a bunch of

671
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: fans bubbles and tell him four five six of the

672
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: draft class or four or six of the draft class

673
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: really not to be able to see anything. You know,

674
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: linebacker that can't hit, an offensive line in that can't

675
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: block anybody, defensive lineman that can't tackle anybody, You're gonna

676
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: see much out of these guys. All right, you can

677
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: see him run around. We'll deep, but you know, Barkley

678
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: running around. Then I think to me, Kylo, that is

679
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: the exciting guy. To see his arm in person, you know,

680
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: to see how he throws the football. What are you

681
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: most looking forward to for our rookie minicamp next a

682
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: couple of days? Well, you're right. I mean you know

683
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: how many times have we seen gone to training camp

684
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: and and gone through these camps and you see the

685
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: running back. Man, this guy looks good. This guy looks good, right,

686
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, well they're brave. There's nobody wearing

687
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: any pads and they're running around and you know, they

688
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: look good. And then uh, then you know, the scrimmage

689
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: comes and it's like, oh man, this guy is not

690
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: quite what we thought he was. So yeah, I mean,

691
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm anxious. I mean this this day

692
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: is always a very interesting day just to see those

693
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: guys in the uniform, to see them. Look, it's more

694
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: interesting to see them when the veterans, you know, for

695
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: the veteran minicamps certainly, but just seeing them, uh, you know,

696
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: seeing Sae Kwan make a cut, seeing him up close,

697
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: and personal, and yeah, Kylo letter will certainly be a guy. Um,

698
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, I've seen him on TV. He broke my

699
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 1: heart two years in a row playing for Richmond against

700
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: my all many great Danes. Um he you know, Kylo

701
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: Letta played a total of five overtime times the last

702
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: two years against Albany, okay, And so I mean they

703
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: had crazy games and he always found a way to

704
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: beat them. And so I'm anxious to see just see

705
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: the size of him up close, because uh, you know,

706
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: he's not a big guy, you know, and I want

707
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: to see, like, how does he look as he looked big?

708
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Does he look strong with the arm? I mean, he's

709
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: a savvy guy, but as look as we all know,

710
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: as savvy as he's going to be, he doesn't know

711
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: the playbook yet. He's gonna be throwing a guys who

712
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: probably know less of the playbook than he does, and

713
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: being protected by guys who know even less of the

714
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: playbook than any of them. So, um, you know, it's

715
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: it's a mess. But I'm worried about trying to intercept him,

716
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: That's what I'm worried about. In the name of all

717
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: body's defense, You're gonna try to pick off one of

718
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: his passes. Look, I'm gonna tell him, I'm gonna shake

719
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: his hand and say nice to meet you, and say, um,

720
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: I've rooted against you every time I've ever seen you

721
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: on TV, every time I've seen you on my laptop.

722
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: So uh, you know that's um, that's you know, he's

723
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to prove himself to me, okay, because my

724
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: first reaction to him is being a good quarterback at

725
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: that level. Who who ticked me off? Twice? Thank you, Paul,

726
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: appreciate We'll see tomorrow. Paul Schwartz in the New York Post,

727
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: A couple of things to look out of that the

728
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: way you're talking about Algae gros sauce, he's like the

729
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: Dylan Betances of the New York Giants. That's pretty good,

730
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: good bastball, but maybe a little bit of ratic sometimes.

731
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: So that's that was the comparison that popped into my head.

732
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: By the way, we're both huge Yankees fans, so I

733
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: can relate to what you're saying. And actually, actually I'm

734
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm a bigger Batansis fan than most people. He's actually

735
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: been better than people give him credit. But um, that's

736
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: one thing that possed in my head. Number two, that

737
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: is not the biggest guy. Um, he's tall, but he's slender.

738
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: He's not you know, I think that's probably wasn't. He

739
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: doesn't have the biggest arm. It doesn't the biggest frame

740
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: in the world. So I think seeing him in an

741
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: outdoor setting and you know, you don't get a good

742
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: feel for a guy and even the evaluate to say this,

743
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: you want to see the guy throw in person, and

744
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: it kind of gives you a different feel of what

745
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: his ball looks and even sounds like as it cuts

746
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: through the wind, and you know how he spins it

747
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 1: and things like that. So for me, rookie minicamp, I

748
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: want to see Loletta into me. That's the most you know,

749
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: really the biggest impression that will be made on me,

750
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: because you really can't hit anybody so well. The interesting

751
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: part about what you said a moment ago of Loletta

752
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: and his arm is that the weather is expected to

753
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: be very good, as it has been most of the week,

754
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: and so he won't be indoctrinated to the infamous Meadowlands

755
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: winds as many kickers and quarterbacks UH usually have to

756
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: experience when they get here to play for the Giants.

757
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the calls to five on three.

758
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: Mike in Long Island waited through that whole interview. God

759
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: bless you, Mike. Thank you very much for being part

760
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: of the show. You have plenty of time. Go ahead,

761
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: Hey guys, are you doing okay? Um? I want to

762
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: take something about Loveletta and then I have a Barkley

763
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: and Odell prediction. Sure, Um, Barkley, I have rushing and

764
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: eight Russian touchdown and then the three receiving touchdowns and

765
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: then three d receiving your to a week ry, I

766
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: would increase your receiving yards a little bit. I think

767
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: you're a little bit off the low end, but but

768
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: I think your other numbers are pretty much where I

769
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: thought they would be fair enough. So total, that's like

770
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: working one yards and eleven touchdowns. You know, I don't

771
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: know how often do you want to get a lie

772
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: on the running game? Now we finally have one Shepherd

773
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: look only toys Eli had. I'm so well, here's the thing.

774
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: Last year, Sherman fifty percent of the time with Minnesota.

775
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: That would expect that Giants will run the ball plenty

776
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: as long as that line holds up and proved that

777
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: they could do it. I think they'll try to get

778
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: that ground game going. Okay, okay, well I'm very I'm

779
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: very excited about the offensive line. You know, we got

780
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: solder I was happy with. I'm happy with end. Thank

781
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: you really, um you know hit the interesting stay five.

782
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: But we had have six years in the NFB East.

783
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: The team that finished last division turned it around. And

784
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: when it meant you're right, I mean I do. Right. Hey, Mike, uh,

785
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: your phone lines falling out a little bit, So if

786
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: you have a little let of question, get in it

787
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: now and then Paul answer both of them before you Okay,

788
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: all right, um u arms saying I thought highlight you

789
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: do a couple of bombs on the field doing that.

790
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean people's questions umption. I'm not worried. It's not

791
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: like you have that, but Josh Allen on al right, No, look, look, Mike, Mike, Mike,

792
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: I agree, and thanks for the call. Your your phone

793
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: lines dying, they're honest. Um yeah, I agree. I think

794
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: he's good enough arm to play in the NFL. But

795
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: does he have um good his arms? You know some

796
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: of the guys in the Leader of the Better Arms

797
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: now he doesn't. But that's fine. You can you can

798
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: play with that. And yeah, he can throw an accurate

799
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: deep all but I saw plenty of things on film

800
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: where he underthrew d balls. It wasn't accurate on deep balls.

801
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: So that's something he's gonna have to work on. Nobody's

802
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: a perfect prospect, especially some when you get in the

803
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: fourth round. Okay, yeah, Well, you know when people throw

804
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington's name out, they say he was a guy

805
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: who didn't have a real strong NFL on I think

806
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: let is a better on the Penning. And I think

807
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: he does too, because I think we'll letta. I've seen

808
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: him do it, and you're right, John, it's it's not

809
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: always on the mark, but when it is, he can

810
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 1: throw a very nice fifty five yard Joy can toss

811
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: and and he can hit it on a dime Joy

812
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: can um. But here's my bigger problem for the arm strength,

813
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: and there's only one way to combat it. When you're

814
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: talking about the fifteen the twenty yard out after I'm

815
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: talking about, you gotta zip that sucker and the dB

816
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: is anticipating the throw and he can't wait to jump

817
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: that route. And if you don't have enough mustard on it,

818
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna get there and take it the other way

819
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: for six. To me, it's those short tight rope throws,

820
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: those laser beam throws. Intermediate, not short, intermediate, short intermedia. Well,

821
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: I would say anything over ten yards is intermediate. Okay,

822
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fair. Um, That to me is where

823
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: the arm strength becomes more dangerous. Now, there's one way.

824
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: There's one way you can combat that, and there's only

825
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: one way to combat that besides accuracy anticipation. That is

826
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: with timing, timing and anticip timing, anticipation, slashing it's the

827
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: same thing, slash, timing anticipation. That is the only way

828
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: you can combat the lack of zip on a medium

829
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: range ball and succeed without getting yourself picked off. But

830
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: that means your receiver and your QB have to be

831
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: totally in symmetry, which at a rookie minicamp generally speaking

832
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 1: won't happen. You're probably not gonna have that because basically

833
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: here's what happens. He's guys come in, they say, Hi,

834
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle. Nice to meet your receiver number twelve. Um,

835
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw you some passes now, Okay, let's hope

836
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: we figure this out quickly. That's that. That's basically how

837
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 1: this goes unless, by some miracles, some wide receiving from

838
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Richmond is ends up being on the mini camera who knows,

839
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: who knows but you don't, or if we threw with

840
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: him at some offseason camp, whatever odds are, He's gonna

841
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: have to learn these guys pretty quick. And you know,

842
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to anticipate that sort of stuff. Joe in Pennsylvania,

843
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: He's up next, Joe. You're on Big bookick Off Live.

844
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: How are you hey good? I'm just looking. You know,

845
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: these guys are talking about, you know, what we need

846
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: and how many questions? But that goes on everywhere. Look

847
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: at New England this year. How many players they lose again,

848
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: and they'll be they'll be all right, you know, look

849
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: at their division. That's why they'll be all right. And

850
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: and by the way, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick kind

851
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: of helped that too. By the way, look at last year,

852
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: all the questions the Eagles had with their defensive backs.

853
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: I still don't know who they have on the defensive

854
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: backs besides their safeties. And I'm saying, you, look where

855
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: we're we're at in our record last year three and eleven.

856
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: But we gave the Eagles, the Super Bowl champions everything

857
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: in both games when those weren't really trying. In that

858
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: last game, dude, they weren't trying. We had guys off

859
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: the street that was making their backfield book sick, and

860
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: they did I don't care what. And there was the

861
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: same guys in the defensive backfield that started in the

862
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and everything else. They may not have had

863
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: all the gusto that that another team may have happened.

864
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: But here's what I'm Joe here, I'm gonna agree with

865
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: you for the most part. I believe that the Giants

866
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: showed how vulnerable the Eagles can be. And Eli had

867
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: his two best games against Philadelphia, and certainly Gettleman and

868
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: Sherman were well aware of that. Giants. Last year we

869
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: went percent of the time, I think, uh, three wide receivers.

870
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: Would you say that's about correct? And I'm just wondering

871
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: about how many did this year we'd go to tight ends?

872
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: What percentage of it? I hope a lot. Uh last year,

873
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I think I think single back twelve eleven personnel last

874
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: year is probably around I would say, um, I would

875
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: think more double tight end this year. But Honestly, Joe,

876
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: we haven't seen enough to be able to tell you.

877
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: We're just guessing. I would think it's only it would

878
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: only be whatever with if we're gonna want to really

879
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: run the ball like they said, I would think, you know,

880
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: and go play action. That's the key. And Uh, you

881
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: really don't have to worry as much of people are

882
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: worried about the third wide receiver because Ingram Uh and

883
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Uh Barkley along with Beckham in and I mean, they

884
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: can really make um missmath is it because I don't

885
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: think the two safeties are gonna be when against us

886
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: are going to be playing real deep anymore. I think

887
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: they'll be coming up, especially if we go to tight

888
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: end when you think, but remember this too, you don't

889
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: have to play two tight ends to run the ball.

890
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand that the Julie your question, but

891
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: I guess think it's a it's a good thing and

892
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: you can break them out now, you know what. My

893
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: point is, one of the best running teams in football.

894
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: Last year, um or the last couple of years of

895
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, they ran eleven personnel more than any other

896
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: formation and they still have the best running team in

897
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: the league. So There is an argument out there that

898
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: it actually hurts you to put bigger personnel in the

899
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: in the game to run because they have a team

900
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: to go to their base defense. If you're an eleven personnel,

901
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: you're forcing the defense to take a linebacker off the

902
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: field and you're dealing with five defensive back so it's

903
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: an easier formation to run. Again, So I wouldn't get

904
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: obsessed with personnel packages based on how you run the ball.

905
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: The offensive line's gotta block, okay, and the one tight

906
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: end of the game's gotta block. It doesn't matter if

907
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: there's one or two of them on the field. You

908
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: know the interesting thing, Joe, if you're going to tight ends,

909
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: it's not your old traditional to tight end anyway, because

910
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: what you could do is put Ellison on the line,

911
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: and you could put Ingram in the slot. Heck, you

912
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: can put else in the backfield if you could do

913
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: that too, And so you can run a ton of

914
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: different styles of formation having two tight ends on the field,

915
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: so you can have the same personnel but different formations

916
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: with that person I think that's where Sherman is gonna

917
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: make his money. I agree, I'm with you right And

918
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: on the defensive side. I want to say, what's I

919
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: really think this year? We have some linebackers that that

920
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: can be played all over the field and uh that

921
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: can cover the tight ends a little bit more, and

922
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: I think that will make a big difference in the defense.

923
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: So that's all I want to say. Thanks, thank you,

924
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: appreciate you called. Because always my friends, I mean, they

925
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: only like Ugle Trees a three down backer. We don't

926
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: even know who the other nickel ononbacker is right now.

927
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: You think it's b J Goodson, but they're not handing

928
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: him that job. Well, he's got to stay healthy first.

929
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and he has to show that he can cover.

930
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: So so, Joe, I don't know if I totally am

931
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: on board with you on that point, because right now

932
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: Ogle Tree is the only proven three down backer on

933
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: this team. How about this one, Paul, What if you

934
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: go eleven personnel and you split Barkley out wide and

935
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: empty empty set in eleven person I said that to

936
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: you yesterday. You asked me about that. You said empty said,

937
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: I said, I could see, Well, no, I just meant

938
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: in eleven person you mentioned the formation of hostility and

939
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: eleven that's another different thing. You can doubt again I

940
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: think I think what Shermer should be able to do

941
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: with this team is use a lot, especially if they're

942
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna go with some of that hurry up stuff, which

943
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: he does do. And Barkley and ingramd just give you

944
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: a lot of versatility and how you all of a

945
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: sudden And isn't that isn't that in a way? In

946
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: a way, isn't that exactly the opposite of Betcher? When

947
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: Betcher has linebackers playing stand up defensive and he's got

948
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: safety is playing linebacker on the other side of the ball.

949
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: That's what Shearman's gonna do. And by the way, you

950
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: can have Ingram in the slot, Shepherd outside Shepherd and

951
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: the slot Ingram outside. How can you give a put

952
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: both Dell in the slot if you want. There's a

953
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: million different things you can do. That's what I see.

954
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: I see. I see a very fluid offense and a

955
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: very fluid defense where the traditional personal personnel positions will

956
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: not be in play. Here we'll see how they do it. Again,

957
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: this is all conjecture from people. And I we saw

958
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: a little bit and and voluntary mini camp, and we

959
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: did see CEMENTTHI backfield stuff, which is what I brought

960
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: up yesterday. But again, guys, this is just us kind

961
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: of thinking. And you know, Paul at home, not sleeping

962
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: at night on his yellow legal pad, you know, drawing

963
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: out formations, which I don't know that he does, but

964
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: I I kind of in sometimes in my imagination, sometimes

965
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: he has a he is a full pad at home

966
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: with a bunch of plays with like names, like they're

967
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: all named after Springsteen songs or something like that, or

968
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: like quotes in the Godfather and that, as he called

969
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: the Tino playbook, this is the Pepperoni pizza, you know,

970
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: this is the I can't say I've named them that,

971
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: but I probably should. I have. I do have a

972
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: bunch of diagrams, that is true. That is a frightening

973
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: place to be. Let's go to Jay all the way

974
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: down in Oklahoma. J what's quote on? Pal? How are

975
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: you man? Thanks for joining the show. We appreciate your

976
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: calling it. Hey. Thanks, Hey, guys, thanks taking my call.

977
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: I listened to you all the time, and you guys

978
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: put out is amazing. But I am the voice of

979
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: reason for what's going on. Look. I am a joysy

980
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: guy living in cowgirl country and now I can walk

981
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: outside with my health head held high because of what's

982
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: going on. I think about it. A couple of months ago,

983
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: we were in the dark days. People need to sit back,

984
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: take a breath, pump the brakes, enjoy the moment we're in.

985
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: Like I said, a couple of months ago, we were

986
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: in the dark days. The organization. What did they do?

987
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: They go out get a Even though he's from Boston,

988
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: he has the New York attitude. He comes in there.

989
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: He's unapologize at it for anything he does. He said,

990
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: he has the courage of his conviction. I and Uncle Dave,

991
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: I trust everybody calmed down. Look, he brought in play

992
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: leaders on every level of the team. If you really

993
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: look at it with he's that type of uncle that

994
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: he's not rich, but he knows how to manage his money.

995
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: He brought in people that you know, none of them

996
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: are expensive, but they fit what we're trying to do.

997
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: We're trying to change the culture. Everybody's like, bringing this player,

998
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: bringing this play. We don't have the money. We still

999
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: have to sign the draft picks. We got these undrafted

1000
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: free agents still out there. There's people gonna be cut.

1001
00:50:53,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: Everybody calmed out and enjoy the moment before it's gone. Yeah,

1002
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: I just want to give you a little unsolicited advice. Okay,

1003
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: as someone who has gone watched Yankee games at Fenway Park,

1004
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: I understand the concept of being an enemy enemy territory.

1005
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I get it. Remember the second game of the season,

1006
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: there's a pretty important game down in Dallas. You might

1007
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: want to just wait to see what happens in that

1008
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: game before you start talking too much. Just trying to

1009
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: help you. You know what. I have a God's ram

1010
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: with an Odell Beckham catch that I am going to

1011
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: cool up and I am going right in the middle

1012
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: of everything. I am not scared. I can hold my

1013
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: held up because I feel this year is gonna be great,

1014
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: you know what. I like the confidence. I hate to

1015
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: rewind this, but in the interest of being honest, last year,

1016
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: I thought it was a blessing that the Giants played

1017
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: Dallas on opening Day because I thought that was gonna

1018
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: be a great way to kick off a potential Super

1019
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: Bowls season. It did not work out that one. And

1020
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: this is also a Dallas's home opener again this year too.

1021
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: And I'm just letting you know I agree. And the

1022
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: interest of honesty, but I have hope. I got you

1023
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: well that day. Nothing wrong with Hope. The long thing.

1024
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Think about you, you don't know for sure, John, I

1025
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: don't know because I don't know your age. Really think

1026
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: about the last time we drafted a player, and there

1027
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: was so much hype about you can't count a Live

1028
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: because he we we didn't draft him, and you can't

1029
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: count Odell because we really didn't know until the case.

1030
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: For me, it's Jeremy Shocky. I think there was quite

1031
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: a bit of buzz about Jeremy Shocky. They really really

1032
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: wanted him. Earnie, of course he made a trade to

1033
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: get up to get him a couple of picks, and

1034
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: and when Shocky came in out of the Miami Hurricanes program,

1035
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: he was certainly viewed as one of these new age

1036
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: tight ends who was gonna have a big gun. Yeah.

1037
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: I agree. And you know, before Shocky, do you know

1038
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: how I remember fans got really excited about this US

1039
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: from a big program, and he said, you know, usually

1040
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: he's the only skilled position guys people get excited for.

1041
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: People got really excited for Tyrone Wheatley. I feel like

1042
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: when he got drafted and they were really pumped to

1043
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: get him in here and and kind of be the

1044
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: next big starting running back for the Giants. No, but really,

1045
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't don't go back. I don't know. Gentlemen touched

1046
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: on it and said, this guy is touched by the

1047
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: hand of that God. I'm not compared to this person

1048
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: because he is a guy. But I'm going LT. Well,

1049
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: you know, all right, Well, I I appreciate the thought.

1050
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: Appreciate certainly. I don't think when when the Giants fans

1051
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: got LT in the building, I don't think even they

1052
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: knew how great he was going to be, to be

1053
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: the greatest defensive player whoever lived, way to represent Big Blue.

1054
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 1: And then I do think there was a lot of

1055
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: hype on Ron Dane. I won the he had won

1056
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. Oh you know what you know, right

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Speaker 1: Dane instead of Wheatly. You're right, I should have went

1058
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: with Dane instead of Wheely. That's a good point. But

1059
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: but Dane also wasn't you know, a home run hitter.

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00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't you know? When when he came out as

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner, he was he was viewed as more

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Speaker 1: of a of a methodical, uh statistical compiler as opposed

1063
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 1: to a guy who's gonna run sixty yards for a

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00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: touchdown that year. I know I liked Sean Alexander better

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00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: than Dane. When did you sit on that? I actually

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00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: liked Alexander very much myself, but I was also I

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00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: I must confess, I thought that Dane was actually the

1068
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: right pick for the Giants and it didn't work out

1069
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: so well. Well it did as a rookie actually man

1070
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: for over seven hund yards was a thunder and lightning

1071
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 1: combo with Tikey Barber and they went to the Super

1072
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Bowl that year. I was a little young when it happened.

1073
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't remember a big hubbub in Hampton got drafted

1074
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: because it was a later first round pick. Well, see

1075
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: what happened with Rodney Hampton. Rodney Hampton was one of

1076
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: the top five players on the Giants board that year,

1077
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: but he had in the issues. Well, he had a

1078
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 1: knee issue that nobody really knew about, and he dropped

1079
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: and the Giants were shocked. And when he felt when

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00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: he felt to them, obviously they took him because they

1081
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: had him as a top five talent. Alright, final call

1082
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: the show, Charlie, we're late. I'm not going to play

1083
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: the open. Go ahead, Pat, what do you got hey?

1084
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, Paul Schwartz made the Schwartz

1085
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: with you because he was so right on about Eric Flowers,

1086
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: and I was so refreshing to hear somebody say it

1087
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: the truth that it was great to hear. And the

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00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: only other thing I got to you, guys is, Paul,

1089
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a couple of undrafted free agent tackles in.

1090
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: I know they're not gonna be hitting anybody, but they

1091
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: can show you if they can move, if they can then,

1092
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: if they can twist, if they can do some things.

1093
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: So take a look at a couple of guys I've

1094
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: heard that's coming in. I'm not saying for sure they

1095
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: are is Kates from Nebraska and Howell from Tyler Howell

1096
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: from Missouri. Do you really think do you really think

1097
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: you have to tell Paul to watch the offensive line

1098
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: just to tweet up and say what he thinks. I

1099
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: know you now, Charlie, Charlie. I've done extensive filmwork on

1100
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: all tentative folks who have been attached to the franchise

1101
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: via the Internet, and who knows if they will or

1102
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: will not be here. That's not for me to stay

1103
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: holy ready for if they are homework is already on

1104
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: the board. Trust me, all right, We'll just let me

1105
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: know how how they look here. You're not going to

1106
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: miss the guy from Missouri because he's like if he is.

1107
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: If he is, I'm sure he will dwarf many other

1108
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: folks on the field. He certainly will. He certainly will.

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00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, guys, take care, appreciate it. Called back

1110
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: when you get a chance. We gotta run show shows over. Thanks, Charlie,

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: appreciate the call is always my friend. Just called back.

1112
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: I feel that it's only want to get Trust me

1113
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: to Charlie, you will get a full report on whoever

1114
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: the offensive tackles are who come in. During the course

1115
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: of the next couple of days. I will be all

1116
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: over and again you're not gonna be able to tell

1117
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 1: a whole lot at a miny. You can't. You can't,

1118
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: But I I will be studying film extensively of their

1119
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: college days to get a good grade. Go ahead, that's it,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna goodbye. I'm done, Thank you, Paul, Thank you.

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00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's Lanson Figels, Paul, I'll be uh doing media. I

1122
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: think Shermer Tomorrow's Coachmer's at eleven thirty and then player

1123
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: availability after that, so Pawn I'll be taking care of that.

1124
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: Will over report after practice on what happened, and then

1125
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: of course Wolf coverage everything else at Mini camp as

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00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: well throughout the day on Friday and on Saturday. Late

1127
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: practices by the way, three thirty five thirty both days,

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00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: if memory served, so I have to be a little patient,

1129
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: but not no, not open to the public. So by

1130
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: the time you get the early evening, we should have

1131
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: a lot of our content up from those practices, so

1132
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,919
Speaker 1: make sure you go to giants dot com to check

1133
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: that out. In the meantime. For Paul to Tino, I'm

1134
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: John Schmilk. Thanks for being with us on Big Blue

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Speaker 1: Kick Off five on this Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: have a great day.