1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: And just like that, finally we're back another edition to 2 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra Podcast. It is Thursday morning, June third, 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: the Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty one. You know, 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: you look around after spring practice and you think, oh, 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: we got this many days until the season starts. But 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: when you don't have an off season, then all of 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: a sudden, you look up and it's June and you're 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: less than one hundred days out, and you got content 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: coming at you every day, well just about every day 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: unless we have a holiday weekend, in which case I 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: drop the ball and forget to tell you guys about it. 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: But hey, my point is we're making it. We're getting closer. 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: So about that whole no podcast on Tuesday, Yeah, I 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: was on vacation. I was back home, and I thought 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: for all the world that I had told you last 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: week we will not have a Tuesday pod. However, we 17 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: did have a Late Kick Live Tuesday night. But yeah, 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: that's on me. There's a little bit of a mix up. 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: A bunch of you were asking what's wrong with Apple, 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: what's wrong with Spotify? A lot of times it is 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: on them, but it wasn't this time. It was on me. 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: So we are back. So here we are Thursday, and 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future we'll be back on a normal rotation. 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: We're so busy around here in a good way. We 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: have got a lot of stuff in the planning and 26 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: building phases right now, so I just I tell you 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: what I can when I can. Our numbers have been 28 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: really good. I can tell you that, so I appreciate it. 29 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: The reason I always try and hammer that home goes 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: when we're able to do new stuff. It's because people 31 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: look at the traction the podcast and the shows get 32 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: and say people want that. They must want that, so 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: we as a company, we need to give them more 34 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: of that. If you guys weren't here, we couldn't do it. 35 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, let's 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: dive in this morning. I'll get to any other odds 37 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: and ends as we move forward. This is wall to 38 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: wall mail bag. It's Q and A. You can submit 39 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: questions joshpat seven zero six at gmail dot com or 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: on Instagram or Twitter at late Kick. Josh Matt is 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: kicking us off this morning. He says, I'd like to 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts about the big noon kickoff that's on Fox. Personally, 43 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I think it's awful, as do most fans I talk 44 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: to as a Badger fan. When I'm thinking Week one 45 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: against Penn State and Week four against Notre Dame could 46 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: be night games, primetime under the lights, and instead I 47 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: find out they're at eleven am local time. It's pretty deflating. 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: I understand the ratings aspect and getting as many eyeballs 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: as possible on those games, so they're not competing with 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the primetime ABC game, but I still hate it. What 51 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: do you say, Matt? My feeling on this is different 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: than you. I used to feel the way you feel 53 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: because I used to either be watching these games at 54 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: home or I used to just be a fan going 55 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: to the game. I always wanted the primetime spot. I 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: always wanted that prime time under the lights feel. It's incredible. 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean, college atmospheres are incredible. Anyway, those of you 58 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: who go to games a lot, think back wherever you 59 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: are right now. You may be listening at work, maybe 60 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: you're driving down the road somewhere. What was the first 61 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: primetime game you ever remember witnessing in person? Now, if 62 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: you're a Penn State fan, or a Texas fan or 63 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: an Alabama fan, you've been in those big stadiums, but 64 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: even some of the smaller venues. You could be at 65 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: a Matt game on a Tuesday night. If it's the 66 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: right environment, it's the right matchup, it can be pretty memorable. 67 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: And I get all that. I've been there, so I 68 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: understand all that. Here's what happened to me, Matt. I 69 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: started covering games. Now. I don't look for sympathy here 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: one bit, but I just want to lay out what 71 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: the day to day is like. So picture this. I'm 72 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: at the biggest games in the country most of the time, 73 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: and I want to be there early. So normally you're 74 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: getting up early. Your day is starting early. I like 75 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: to get to the venue well ahead of time. Let's 76 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: say we got a seven pm kickoff, Well, I like 77 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: to get to the venue early. I basically make the 78 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: stadium my office for the day so I can watch 79 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: all the games during the day and then I can 80 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: be there. I don't have to worry about traffic or anything. 81 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: But your game's not happening until seven pm, obviously, so 82 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: let's say conservatively that things wrapping up ten thirty eleven o'clock. Well, 83 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: then you have media obligation afterwards. I'm not out of 84 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: there on average until about two to two and a 85 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: half hours after the game ends, and then you've got 86 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: to drive home. Some cases it's a flight the next day. 87 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: But in a lot of cases in the South where 88 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: I grew up, if I'm in Columbus, Georgia at the 89 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: time and I'm going to Georgia, well that's three hours away, Tuscaloosa, 90 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: three and a half hours away, Baton Rouge, we drive that. 91 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: That's six hours away, Gamesville, four hours away, Columbius, South Carolina, Noxvil. 92 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: These were all drives, long ones, but they were drives. 93 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Well here's what was happening, Matt. There were a lot 94 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: of cases where I was not pulling in on Sunday 95 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: morning until the sun was coming up. And that is 96 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: fun on the front end, but it's miserable on the 97 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: back end. So what I learned is I learned to 98 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: appreciate the three thirty kickoff, the CBS three thirty kickoff, 99 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: but I really learned to appreciate those early kickoffs, especially 100 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: when it gets later in the year where weather and 101 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: heat is not a factor. Now, I don't expect you 102 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: to feel that way. I wouldn't feel that way if 103 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: I were a fan. So this is a very selfish answer, 104 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: but you did ask me my opinion, Matt. I just 105 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: view college football, and there's been a paradigm shift in 106 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: college football from a TV perspective. It used to be 107 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: that the primetime game was the exception to the rule, 108 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: and there was one of them, maybe two of them. 109 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: Everyone gets primetime games now, and so I think what 110 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: used to be a very novelty based aspect, it's kind 111 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: of had the new worn off of it for me. 112 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: So primetime games aren't as big a deal to me anymore. 113 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: But I know from an atmosphere standpoint, you can't duplicate that. 114 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: You cannot make no Notre Dame Wisconsin eight pm the 115 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: same as Notre Dame Wisconsin eleven am. You can't do it. 116 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: I know that, but it is what it is. I 117 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: will probably be at least one of the games that 118 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 1: you listed there. So here's the plus side from me, Matt. 119 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: If that Wisconsin Notre Dame game is an eleven am 120 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: local time kickoff, I could be back in Nashville by 121 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: the end of the day. So we'll get through this together, Matt. 122 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Hashtag We're all in this together. Shytown Gump is up next. 123 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Speaking of Chicago. He says, what is your dream scenario 124 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: in college football? You can combine any two teams ever, 125 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: from any year or era, any stadium, with whoever or 126 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: whopstever you want, calling the game, whatever weather you want. Wow, 127 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: I didn't see that till just now, et cetera, et cetera, 128 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: also including any other variables you can think of. Oh boy, 129 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: all right, well, who has the good answer out there? 130 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean? He's telling me shytown. 131 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Gump's telling us we can go anywhere. So I don't 132 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: know what you're thinking right now. I didn't even go 133 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: down the cross Era path. But let me do that 134 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: right quick. So I'm gonna give you several answers because 135 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I can. I would love to take that one Miami team, 136 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, the famous one that sent like forty seven 137 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: hundred guys to the draft. I'd love to take that 138 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: one Miami squad, and I'd love to drop them in 139 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen against LSU, twenty twenty against Alabama. I got 140 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: feelings on this. I think those nineteen and twenty LSU 141 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: and Bama squads would go up and down the field 142 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: on Miami. It wouldn't have anything to do with how 143 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: talented Miami was. But if I'm plucking a team out 144 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: of that era, which only twenty years ago, but football's 145 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: changed a lot, I'm a believer that even the best 146 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: of the best would get run over in today's game 147 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: because schematically they would be so ill equipped to deal 148 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: with what they would have thrown at them. Also, think 149 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: about what the personnel would be from Miami. The personnel 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: would be built to stop a lot of I formation 151 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: two back and then all of a sudden you got 152 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: tight ends flexing out in four or five wide, and 153 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: you got so much different versatility in today's offensive game 154 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: as opposed to back then. I think it would be 155 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: eye opening to watch what would happen to the best 156 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: of the best. I mean that Miami roster was incredible. 157 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: I think they'd get carved up by today's offenses at 158 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: the highest level. The LSUS the Alabamas in nineteen and twenty, 159 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: I think they get carved up. You know what, I 160 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: just thought of another one. I'm gonna use these same 161 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: two teams in the same year twenty eleven. While I'm 162 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: at it, Since you're giving me permission, I don't care 163 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: about the weather or the venue. We can play it 164 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: in Stillwater. For all I care, I want to see 165 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: that twenty eleven Alabama team and the twenty eleven LSU 166 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: team both play Oklahoma State. So some of you out 167 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: there made fools of yourselves in twenty eleven talking about 168 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: how well those were neck and neck. Those were three 169 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: comparable teams. They weren't. They really weren't. And this is 170 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: all due respect to Oklahoma State, No, they weren't. I 171 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: also looked at the rest of the year and noticed 172 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: how those two teams body bagged everyone else but each other. 173 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: And you also notice, for everyone who wanted to hate 174 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: on that nine to six game, as if to say, oh, 175 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: these offenses suck, these offenses are terrible, you notice what 176 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: those offenses did against everyone else they played. It is 177 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: crazy what elite defenses will do when they're on the field. 178 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: If Oklahoma State would have been undefeated that year, they 179 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: would have played for a national championship. That team lost 180 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: to Iowa State. With everything on the line, they would 181 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: have gotten handled by either Alabama or LSU. But because 182 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: it didn't happen, that argument got to linger. It's kind 183 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: of like when twenty seventeen UCF You know what, let's 184 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: create another one twenty seventeen. Who won the title Bama. 185 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: I've used Bama three times. This sounds terrible, Okay, well, 186 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: it just so happens. In twenty seventeen, BAMA won the 187 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: national title. UCF played that undefeated season and then played 188 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: that game against Auburn and they hung their championship banner. 189 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: Put UCF on the field against Alabama with a title 190 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: on the line, with a title on the line, or 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: how about this, I'd also love to see this take 192 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the Central Florida team march him into Jordan Hare Stadium 193 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: because I was at that Auburn Georgia game that year. 194 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I was at that Auburn Alabama game that year when 195 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: something consequential to that Auburn team is on the line. 196 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: In other words, I'd love to march UCF into those 197 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: environments against the same Auburn team they beat, and let's 198 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: see how they fare. I know a lot of times 199 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: the G five crowd scoffs at the excuse making, and 200 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: that is what it is. Excuse making When someone from 201 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: a Power five level faces you in a BOWLDG and 202 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: they say, well, we're not very motivated. I know how 203 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: that makes you feel. I understand totally, but it doesn't 204 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: change the fact that it's true. I'm telling you right now. 205 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: I had someone who I'm obviously not gonna name, from 206 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Auburn telling me before that Peach Bowl where you guys 207 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: beat Auburn, I had someone tell me beforehand, we're not 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: really dialed in for this. We don't even view it 209 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: as one of the six biggest games we've played all year. 210 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Is that UCF's fault, of course not. They did exactly 211 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: what they should have done. But these G five P 212 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: five bowl game matchups, I've never viewed that as a 213 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: definitive statement on anything. What I would love to see 214 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: is that twenty let's say the twenty twenty Cincinnati team, 215 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: since I'm getting to choose wherever I put them, have 216 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: them go into Clemson second to last week of the year, 217 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: have them going to Columbus, Ohio, second to last week 218 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: of the year, something like that. I don't know why 219 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm picking second to last week of the year. Like 220 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: that special, but not a bowl game now, not some 221 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: consolation prize. I want them in a meaningful game where 222 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: there is equal motivation level. Because when there's equal motivation level, 223 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: I think some people would be surprised at how different 224 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: the outcome is in some matchups that they've seen go 225 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: the other way. Let me reiterate before I move on. Yes, 226 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: that is absolutely excuse making on the part of the 227 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: P five teams and me, I guess speaking for him, 228 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: it's absolutely excuse making to tell you they're not motivated 229 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and therefore that's why they perform at the level they are. Yes, 230 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: it does take credit away from you. I understand all 231 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: these things. I'm just telling you what the deal is. 232 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm just giving you reality. You can do with it 233 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: whatever you want to, but I am telling you you know, 234 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: as it was the case in that Peach Bowl, Aarburn 235 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: didn't really care about being there all that much. I 236 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: would love to see the regular season matchup happen because 237 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: then I wouldn't have to worry about does this team 238 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: want to be there? Is this team motivated? Don't have 239 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: to worry about all that. And I of course know 240 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: where that goes next, which is we'll tell them to 241 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: schedule us, and then I'll say, okay, take a two 242 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: for one deal. And then you'll say, no, we want 243 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: a home and home like the big boys, and then 244 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: you're going to get a pie stuffed in your face, 245 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: and on and on it goes, just like the podcast, 246 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: because next up we have Christian. He says, I'd like 247 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on the tweet that John Rothstein 248 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: put out the other day. But as it pertains to 249 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: college football, do you think what he tweeted could ever 250 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: happen in college football? So I'm going to click this 251 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Rothstein tweet right here. So John Rothstein covers college hoops, 252 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: and here's what he tweeted. Sources indicate multiple mid major 253 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: programs are opting not to play guaranteed games against high 254 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: major programs because it gives power conference teams free live 255 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: evaluation of future players who could move up via the 256 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: transfer portal. The level of separation has never been greater. 257 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: If that didn't make sense to you, here's what's happening 258 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: in college basketball. A lot of the mid major teams, 259 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: which previously would have had games scheduled against the big boys, 260 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: they're looking at the transfer portal and they're saying, wait 261 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: a second, we're not going to play you. That's essentially 262 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: bringing our entire team into your gym. And then we 263 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: play you and you get a chance to evaluate our 264 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: roster knowing full well, in the future you may have 265 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: a spot for our guys on your roster. We're not 266 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: going to give you a free in person evaluation of 267 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: our players just so you can take them later on. Well, 268 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: Christian's asking, could that happen in college football? I don't 269 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: think so, Christian. The dynamic is totally different in football. 270 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Even if G five programs, let's say, or FCS programs 271 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: to a lesser degree, thought that way, they would still 272 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: be totally dependent on those paycheck games. So even if 273 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: you coach at East Carolina and let's say you've got 274 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: a game scheduled against Virginia Tech and you feel that way, 275 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: you're headed to Blacksburg to play that game because they're 276 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: paying you five hundred grand, seven hundred and fifty grand, 277 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: million and a half. They're paying you big money to 278 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: play those games, and you're factoring that into your budget 279 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: and you need that. That's the difference in you being 280 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: able to afford resources that otherwise you couldn't afford. So 281 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: what do you do? Even if you did feel like 282 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: this in college basketball, that's not the way the budgets 283 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: work nearly as much as college football, cause the payout 284 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: for those games, it's not the way it works in 285 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: college basketball. In college football, we all understand, you know, 286 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: if Tulsa goes to play Oklahoma, Tulsa's getting paid big 287 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: money to go play Oklahoma. If Alabama State heads to Auburn, 288 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: they're getting big money to do that. Well, in college basketball, 289 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: it's not the same way in college football. Even if 290 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: Alabama State did feel that way, what recourse do they 291 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: have cancel the game and don't get a million and 292 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: a quarter to go to Jordenhare Stadium and instead say, Nope, 293 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: we got to lay off twenty percent of our staff 294 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: and we got to scrap this facility project because we 295 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: didn't get the money that we thought we were going 296 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: to get. It is what it is. You got a 297 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: grin and Barrett, and you know, a lot of these 298 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: G five programs have a goal in mind that we're 299 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: actually going to talk about in question for him later 300 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: in the podcast, to ultimately get to that P five level. Well, 301 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: how do you think you do that? Will you keep 302 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: building your infrastructure and you keep boosting up your own resources, 303 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: but also you go toe to toe and you prove 304 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: that you belong and you make yourself madter you involve 305 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: yourself in the conversation. We were just talking about UCF, 306 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: that twenty seventeen team. It made it sounded like I 307 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: was a little bit harsh. I thought it was brilliant 308 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: on UCF's part. See, UCF didn't care all that much 309 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: about actually winning a title. I know the fans did. 310 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about you guys, I'm talking about administrators. 311 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Danny White at the time was the ad down there. 312 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: He's at Tennessee. Now, Danny White didn't want to go 313 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: play anyone in a title game? Are you kidding me? 314 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: It was about more marketing. It was about getting the 315 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: name of UCF football out there and UCF athletics. You 316 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: know how much money they made off that little campaign, 317 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: off that troll job that they essentially did of hanging 318 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: a banner and getting all of y'all been out of shape. 319 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: People really got disproportionately bent out of shape by a 320 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: G five team in Central Florida claiming a national championship. 321 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Like it really impacted anything, Well, it impacted their bottom line. 322 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: You ever taking a look. I did this on a 323 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: show previously, the fundraising effort and how it kicked into 324 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: a totally different gear, totally different stratosphere. Before that versus 325 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: after that. That was brilliant. Well that's what G five 326 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: programs are looking to do you think Central Florida is 327 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: looking a wave that G five flag forever? Heck no again, 328 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this later. They want to be 329 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: a P five. They want to absolutely they want to 330 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: be like Andy Barnard. He gets accepted into the inner 331 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: circle in the office, and all of a sudden he's 332 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: no longer for the little guy. He's headed right into 333 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: that office. He closes the blinds. He's in the inner circle. Now. 334 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: UCF wants to be in the inner circle, and you 335 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: can't do it by hiding like they appear or in 336 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: college basketball. Let's roll on here. Ch nine, frequent contributor 337 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: to the show, says, as you were doing the schedule draft, 338 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: I was curious, have you ever been to the Army 339 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Navy game? If so, how would you rank it compared 340 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: to other rivalry atmospheres you've experienced And is there another 341 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: rivalry game where you just have to be there to 342 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: understand it? Rach, I'm not qualified and answer the last part. 343 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: I've never been to Michigan Ohio State, so I don't 344 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: know how I can complete that sentence. Or that thought 345 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: if I haven't been to arguably one of, if not 346 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: the biggest rivalries, not only in college football but in 347 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: all of sports. Hope to change that this year. We'll 348 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: see that's largely up to Michigan because got to be 349 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: where the biggest game is and I can't have one 350 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: team be completely irrelevant on the national scene and justify 351 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: it that late in the year. I think the Buckeys 352 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: are going to be there, hope the Wolverines will be there. 353 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: But as for the Army Navy game, I've never been 354 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: there before. I want to change that this year too. 355 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: It's a standalone game, it's after conference championship week, so 356 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: it's feasible to be there. I've just never been able 357 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: to go because I've never been able previous to this 358 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: year to be able to justify it from my professional perspective. 359 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: I was previously down in Georgia, largely covered the SEC. 360 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Never was able to get up to either what is it, 361 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: Philadelphia or Annapolis, I think where they play the game 362 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: on a rotational basis. So I'm looking to change that 363 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: this year. Really hope I can, because I love that 364 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: as a TV product. CBS has that game as a 365 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: TV product. I think it's phenomenally presented. I love everything 366 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: about it. I didn't get it growing up as a kid. 367 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: This is going to sound disrespectful. It's not disrespectful at all. 368 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: I did not grow up understanding the magnitude of Army Navy. 369 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I didn't get why it was a big deal. I 370 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: got why the Iron Bowls a big deal, or Georgia 371 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: Florida or USC Notre Dame. I got all that. I 372 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: didn't get why Army Navy was a big deal because 373 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: I only thought about it within the context of the 374 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: big college football picture. I didn't get how much bigger 375 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: it was. So I get it now, trust me, and 376 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: I really do want to be a part of that. 377 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: This year, Ethan has one of the best submissions that 378 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: we've ever heard. So I'm gonna take just a second, 379 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: let's take our quick break, and then we're gonna come back. 380 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: And Ethan is just throwing a heater ninety eight right 381 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: under the chin, and here comes Ethan his question. My 382 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: name is Ethan. I'm eleven years old. My three favorite 383 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: things are trains, weather, and LSU football. So I'm your 384 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: biggest fan. Would you ever consider doing a different podcast 385 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: where you talk about storm chasing and your train hopping adventures, 386 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: or maybe do that more on late kick. Those are 387 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: my favorite Go Tigers again, Ethan. We need to hang 388 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: out more, Ethan. You got to clear it with your parents, 389 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: but we got to hang out more. So Ethan just 390 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: runs down the list here. His three favorite things are trains, weather, 391 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: and LSU football might as well be me growing up. 392 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: That might as well be me. You can insert whatever 393 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: football team you want, but trains and weather you don't 394 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: even know. Nothing's changed. I'm twice his age, three times 395 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: his age. Nothing's changed with me there. So me and 396 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: Ethan are a lot of light. I've explained to you 397 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: why I love weather and why I love storm chasing. 398 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: It may it may confuse people why a full grown 399 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: man would be fascinated with trains. Well number one train hopping, 400 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: which I don't advise, but it is a fun activity 401 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: if you assume the risk. It's a fun activity. But 402 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: also it's a metaphor. Have you guys ever thought about this. 403 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like I'm joking, but I'm not. I 404 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: do think this way. This is how my sick mind 405 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: works sometimes. Well, you can decide if it's sick or not. 406 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: So picture yourself at a railroad crossing somewhere out there. 407 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: It's a good song by Linda Ronstadt. Somewhere out there 408 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: right now, someone is at a railroad crossing watching a 409 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: Manifest freight train come through. Manifest just means that a 410 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: whole lot of everything on it. So think about this though. 411 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: Watching a freight train go buy is the exact same 412 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: is sitting in a food court at a mall. For 413 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: those of you who still go to malls. That freight train, 414 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: you have no clue where it came from, You have 415 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: no clue where it's going. You don't even know what's 416 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: in each individual car. And that's the only time, to 417 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: a ninety nine point nine percent certainty, that you'll ever 418 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: see that train and those cars again. And it's the 419 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: exact same is sitting around a bunch of people. Go 420 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: to a park if you don't want to go to 421 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: the mall and just watch people go by. You don't 422 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: know the story, you don't know where they came from, 423 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: You have no clue where they're going, you don't know 424 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: what's inside their head, you don't know anything about them. 425 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Chances are you will never encounter that person or these 426 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: people again. And that's always fascinated me. It's really metaphorical 427 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: to life. It's always fascinated me. So, hey, what's the 428 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: only thing you can do to change it? Well, you 429 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: can either walk up and introduce yourself to the person 430 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: to start talking, or in my case, hop in the 431 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: box car and go for a ride. But Ethan, I 432 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: talk about it on the podcast sometimes. But you've got 433 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: to strike a healthy balance, buddy, And I'll tell you why. 434 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: There are a lot of people in my business that 435 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: really overestimate how much people care about what they think 436 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: about everything. You've noticed this, A lot of you have 437 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: noticed this. It happens politically a whole lot. Someone gets 438 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: a little notoriety about themselves because they talk about college football, 439 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden they assume, because they 440 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: have a bigger following on Twitter than they did five 441 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: years ago, well maybe these people care about you know, 442 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: my taste in music or food or politics. I'm gonna 443 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: start talking about that. No one cares. I understand that. 444 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: I understand most of you don't care about what I 445 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: think about those things. Some of you may, but most 446 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: of you're here to listen to me talk about college football. 447 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm smart enough to realize that, at the very least 448 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: smart enough to realize that. So I don't mix that 449 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: in a whole lot. There's a little flavor here, there's 450 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: a connection. I mean, I know you, guys, I think 451 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: on a lot deeper level than the average host knows 452 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: his audience. I can assure you of that because I 453 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: communicate with you guys every day. But even so, if 454 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: you guys wanted to be listening to me talk about 455 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: food or talk about politics, there are a million places 456 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: you can go for that. What I know is we 457 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: got a unique combination of the way we cover college 458 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: football here, and I'm talking to you as well, Ethan. 459 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: And that's why it's a majority college football, with maybe 460 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: a little extra mixed in this time of year because 461 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: we can be looser with it. But this will always 462 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: be a vast majority college football, with just a little 463 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: seasoning of your occasional train hopping story or storm chasing 464 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: story tossed in. Oh, and I love Fleetwood. Mac. Next up, 465 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Jay Cincinnati Red says, do you feel that you would 466 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: be better served to break away from the Power five? 467 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I love all college football. I think it would be 468 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: exciting to see two playoffs every year. I kind of 469 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: address this already, so I won't go back down the 470 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. There's a difference here in what would be 471 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: best for the G five versus what you and I 472 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: would like to see, Jay, because I agree with you, 473 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: I'd love to see two playoff products as well, but 474 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be good for the G five because of 475 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: what we talked about. The financial sustainability would not be 476 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: there if there was a breakaway. It's necessary for there 477 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: to be a connection right now and in the foreseeable future. 478 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what would change that. So I would 479 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: love to see it selfishly if we were just talking 480 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: about a pure football product, but from a financial viability standpoint, 481 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: m don't think they can pull that off. G Money 482 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Torrez up next, He says, I'm a diehard Miami Hurricane 483 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: and I always hear people asking what will it take 484 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,199 Speaker 1: from Miami to be back? Well, what do you think 485 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: the answer to that is? And do you believe in 486 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Manny Diaz and his staff? Let me answer the second 487 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: part first, I don't know. I think I do. I 488 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: think I believe in Manny and his staff. It's that 489 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: trust but confirm thing that I've been talking about a 490 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: lot this past few months. I trust the way I 491 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: feel about certain staff, in this case many Diaz and 492 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: his staff, but I want to confirm it, you know, 493 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: because you've been burned before. You all know this. You 494 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: all have probably had a team outside your own. So 495 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: forget about your own staff and your own team. Think 496 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: about that other team that recently you really bought into 497 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: and you got burned, and you were talking about him 498 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: at work, and you were talking about him at church 499 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: with your buddies or on the softball field, and they 500 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: just didn't come through for you, and it makes you 501 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: look stupid, and so then you're hesitant with future opinions. 502 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: Don't be by the way, but you're hesitant with it, 503 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: and so you learn to trust but verify. And I'm 504 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: in trust but verify mode with Manny Diaz and his 505 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: staff right now. I really thought it was admirable that 506 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: he realized he needed to cut bait one year in 507 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: with some of the hires he made, some of the 508 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: staffing decisions he made. I thought it was admirable that 509 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: he took decisive action. He went into the transfer portal 510 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: to guys like Derrick King had to do it, had 511 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: to do it. FSU's doing that right now. I know 512 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: you guys in Miami don't want to hear about the seminoles, 513 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: but they're doing it right now there too. So there 514 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: are some things to like. There are some signs pointing 515 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Now. As for the Miami being back, 516 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: I guess so tired of this. I was talking to 517 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: a buddy of mine the other day about this. There 518 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: are two things that happen anytime Miami does anything of note. 519 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: You know this better than anyone. If you're a Miami fan, 520 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: you know exactly what I'm talking about. You guys who 521 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: live through the eighties and nineties and early two thousands, 522 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: you know that. I mean, that's something you wish you 523 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: could bottle up and drink it every single day, but 524 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: you can't. That's not reality. But you know that there 525 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: is an entire media apparatus that surrounds Miami and they 526 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: get it. But then there's the national media apparatus that 527 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: only does that drive by mentality, and they kind of 528 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: drive by the roll of winded down every now and 529 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: then they take a peak. Let's see what Miami's doing. Okay, 530 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: move on, And so all they ever want to talk 531 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: about is two things. Number one, is Miami back? And 532 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: number two and this is the really one when you 533 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: get sixty three year old white sports writers saying, does 534 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Miami have the swagger back? Is the swagger back from Miami? Sir? 535 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: Spellswagger and then define it for me. What a swagger 536 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: mean to you? Sir, ma'am? What a swagger mean to you? 537 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: So look, here's what it really comes down to. At 538 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, when people are talking about 539 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: whether the swagger's bag or whether the U is back, 540 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot of times they'll follow that up with indicating 541 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: they believe there's a unique way to win at Miami. 542 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: There's not a unique way to win at Miami. There 543 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: is a way that Miami's done it in the past 544 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: that was unique to Miami. Don't get me wrong. Anyone 545 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: who's watched the documentaries or lived through it, or there's 546 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: something really unique about the history of Miami, something totally 547 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: unique about the way right through Howard Schnellenberger and Jimmy 548 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Johnson and Dennis Erickson and all those cats. Hey, Larry 549 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Coker up for College Football Hall of Fame induction. By 550 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: the way, you guys voting for him, I got my 551 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: eye on you. But anyway, So there's a lot about 552 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: the history of Miami that's unique. But what I don't 553 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: buy into is there's this formula that's unique to Miami, 554 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: that works at Miami that wouldn't work anywhere else. What 555 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: if I told you the formula that works elsewhere would 556 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: also work at Miami. What they do at Ohio State 557 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: or Clemson would absolutely work at Miami. What do they 558 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: do well? They get a dynamite staff in there. They 559 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: take football more seriously than the rest of the country. Now, 560 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: in Miami's case, you would want to lock down the 561 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: talent in your backyard, which I would argue if anything, 562 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: is an advantage for you. Clemson's got to come to 563 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: Florida to get guys. You wake up every day in Florida. 564 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: That's all you have to do. I say it like 565 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: it's easy in theory. It's easy. Get a staff and 566 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: an administration that's on the same page. They take football seriously. 567 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: There's a day to day, month to month, year over 568 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: year commitment to continually upgrading facilities and enhancing everything about 569 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: the branding and the overall physical product, the physical infrastructure, 570 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: facilities and all that stadium. But ultimately all that's window dressing. 571 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: It comes down to players. You got to keep the 572 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: players home. You keep the players home with the right 573 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: staff in place, you'll win more. You win more. Then 574 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: that ends up feeding itself because more guys want to 575 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: come there, and then all of a sudden, Miami will 576 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: be back. Miami's back when the formula that got Miami 577 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: where they were previously is implemented. But what I'm saying 578 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: is it's not unique to Miami. The formula to win 579 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: is not unique to any place. The formula to win 580 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: applies in Los Angeles, California, in Miami, Florida, and Arbor, Michigan, 581 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: all the same. All right, we were all on again. 582 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: Here's one that was anonymous. Oh boy, I can see 583 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: why it's anonymous. Here's the question or statement, I guess, 584 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: give us the Devil's advocate view on why playoff expansion 585 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: would be good for college football, and then do whatever 586 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: you want to with it, do whatever I want. Huh Okay. Well, 587 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: the Devil's advocate argument is it keeps more teams involved 588 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: later in the year, stupid. And then it also gives 589 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: you more good football on the back end, dumb. And 590 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: then also it doesn't sacrifice the integrity or value of 591 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: the regular season because you got to have auto bids 592 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: to where every conference championship matters. I never was told 593 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: that they don't matter, and then everyone's happy, All's well, 594 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: that ends well, well, I just made the argument. Hold on, 595 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: let me reach over here and grab the argument. You second, 596 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: do whatever I want to. It's okay, and that's that. 597 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, anonymous. I know it sounds like I didn't 598 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: go in depth there, but it's only cause if you're 599 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: a regular listener. I've gone in depth on this way 600 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: too many times, and I realized it was becoming a 601 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: popular talking point in what everyone else would refer to 602 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: as the off season. So I don't want to do it. 603 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: That fruit hangs so low to the ground it has 604 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: bruise marks from touching the ground. I don't want to 605 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: be that guy. We'll wrap it up here. I thought 606 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: this was pretty good. I just deleted the name. So 607 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: if this is your question, thank you. I do not 608 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: know whose question this was, though. It was which G 609 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: five teams, which three do you think would benefit the 610 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: most from going to the Power five level? And then 611 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: what conferences would you want to add them into? So 612 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: one is obvious, Central Florida. I've felt this way for 613 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: a long time. I think that'd be a good fit 614 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: for the SEC or the ACC. So let's just say 615 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: ACC for argument's sake. Houston, I think is another prime candidate. 616 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: Some would say Memphis, but I would go Houston even 617 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: over Memphis. And I would say Houston is aed it 618 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: for the Big Twelve or the SEC. But the third 619 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: ones a little off the beaten path. They're hot right now, 620 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: so maybe not so much. Maybe this makes sense to you, 621 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: But Louisiana. Some would call them UL Lafayette. They just 622 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: want to be called University of Louisiana. How about putting 623 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: them in the Big Twelve. The Big Twelve would then 624 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: have the only other Power five team in the state 625 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: of Louisiana. And what I'm thinking here is I want 626 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: to open up that talent pipeline. I mean, Louisiana's a 627 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: gold mine for talent, and all the SEC teams try 628 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: and get in there, but very few non SEC teams 629 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: ever even make an attempt to get into Louisiana. Well, 630 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: if you had a Big Twelve team in Louisiana, then 631 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: maybe that opens up that pipeline. It doesn't have to flow, 632 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: even if it just drips even if Oklahoma picks up 633 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: the occasional kid out of Thibodeaux, or even if Texas 634 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: or even Texas Tech or someone like that, even if 635 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: they occasionally get into New Orleans and take a three 636 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: star four star safety, can make an overall difference in 637 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: the quality of football being played in the conference. So 638 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: give me Central Florida, give me Houston, and give me 639 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: you l Lafayette. Memphis is going to be a popular 640 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: answer there. Cincinnati obviously popular. I think a team on 641 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: the East Coast like East Carolina, I mean, you can't 642 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: go wrong there. The only one I wonder about, to 643 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: be honest with you, as other people bring them up, 644 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: is Boise. And it's not because of the football. It's 645 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: because you know, good and well, when this conversation happens, 646 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: it's all about TV markets and stuff like that. Stuff 647 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: I really don't like spending a whole lot of time 648 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: talking about, but you have to talk about it here. 649 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: I just don't know what Boise ads. I think the 650 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: product would be appealing to fans, but to a TV 651 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: executive or a conference commissioner looking to bolster their portfolio, 652 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what boys he adds. I think the 653 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: counter to that would be the best thing for your 654 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: portfolio from a television perspective is having good product on 655 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: the field, and Boise would give you good product. But 656 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: then you go back to that whole TV market thing 657 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: and you get a lot of people in the room 658 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: talking about things they don't know, a whole lot about 659 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: myself included. So I'm going to stop there. 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