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Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 1: There's not got a free shot.

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Speaker 3: All these networks lying about the people, the people have

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Speaker 1: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you

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Speaker 4: Mega media?

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Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 3: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 4: Worry. Use your host, Stephen k Man.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, twenty October, Year of Lord twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get back to the was it the

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Speaker 2: insurrection here in the United States of America and how

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the plenum that's.

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Speaker 2: Going on in Beijing right now and all this controversy

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Speaker 2: around she is he in charge?

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Speaker 1: Not in charge?

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Speaker 2: Captain final is going to join come back in a moment. Also,

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Speaker 2: the representative of the new Federal State of China. Forrest,

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Speaker 2: one Politics and capital markets. Gold once again blew through

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Speaker 2: told you how this was going to happen. He said,

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Speaker 2: it's not about the price of goal, it's about the process.

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Speaker 2: You understand geopolitics, you understand capital markets. You understand the

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Speaker 2: centrality of the United States dollar, the good old Federal

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Speaker 1: Currency and where that's going.

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Speaker 2: If you understand that and you get we can teach

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Speaker 2: your own. And you've done a magnificent job. And it's

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Speaker 2: only going to get scarier and scarier even with a

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Speaker 2: honored to have on I think the single most serious

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Speaker 2: public intellectual in this country, and it's through Encounter Books

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Speaker 2: that he's got a new book out that is going

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Speaker 2: to be another another game changer.

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Speaker 1: So Roger Kimball and the guy's encounter.

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Speaker 2: Great job. It's one of the reasons I love Roger Kimball.

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Speaker 2: He's a man of of utmost courage. The author is

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Speaker 2: Charles Murray, and we welcome Charles.

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Speaker 1: We welcomed me to the war room, sir.

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Speaker 2: The reason I say this, sir, you wrote two books,

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Speaker 2: The Bell Curve and Coming Apart, that you were eviscerated

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Speaker 1: Both books were not.

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Speaker 2: Only simply stunning analysis, but the prophetic nature of both

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Speaker 1: Why was The Bell Curve so.

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Speaker 6: And in the course of writing the whole book, we

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Speaker 5: A topic that everybody asks about when you raise IQ,

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Speaker 2: How that would how that would have how that would

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Speaker 6: In say, nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 5: It was divided into antagonistic classes, and the class on

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Speaker 2: Particularly The Evolution of the Books and the Argument, and

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Speaker 1: People say, well, how did you know? How did you

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Speaker 2: It's so evident, it wasn't hidden, and Charles Murray explained

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Speaker 2: But by and large, these books were not out and

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Speaker 2: Having been a fan and studied your talks and your

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Speaker 5: It's not sudden. It started it in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 5: It went like this, Steve, I a like millions and

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Speaker 6: It can make a lot of difference.

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Speaker 5: It can change the mood, it can change the environ

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Speaker 1: Charles. We look forward to having you back. Where do

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Speaker 5: Website, social media, any of it, and so it's mainly

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Speaker 1: We'll push people to it.

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Speaker 2: Charles Murray, thank you, one of the greatest living Americans,

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Speaker 2: one of the greatest.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles.

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Speaker 2: A modern day profit, flat out, a modern day profit.

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Speaker 2: Been right on all of it since they tried to

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Speaker 2: destroy him with the Bell curve. If you understand Charles Murray,

451
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Speaker 2: and you understand the financial crash of two thousand and

452
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Speaker 2: eight and how the elites bailed themselves out screwed everybody else,

453
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Speaker 2: you could see the Donald Trump, a Trump like figure,

454
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Speaker 2: had to arrive, and Trump arrived.

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Speaker 1: And scared and broke the establishment. The process. We're still

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Speaker 1: in da Tripp war room.

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Speaker 4: Confuse your hosts, Stephen.

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Speaker 2: K I'm informed by the war room engine room that Amazon,

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Speaker 2: I think is now since the start of our interviews,

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Speaker 2: now out of books. They're is stocking. Go order or

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Speaker 2: go over to Roger Kimball's Encounter Books. An act of

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Speaker 2: bravery of Roger to put in. And this is the

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Speaker 2: story of Charles Murray. He spoke truth to power, he

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Speaker 2: spoke truth to the American institutions, he spoke truth to

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Speaker 2: the American people, and he was essentially banned the single

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Speaker 2: one of the single smartest.

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Speaker 1: Guys you've got in the country. Think about that for

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Speaker 1: a second.

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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, the Conservatives all ran for

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Speaker 2: the hills except for a few brave institutions that would

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Speaker 2: have Charles speak.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to figure out something to do with

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Speaker 1: him in Washington, d C. To get him here for

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Speaker 1: a talk. It's so important to.

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Speaker 2: Tie all the books together, Bell Curve, coming apart, facing

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Speaker 2: reality and now taking religious religion seriously. And if anybody's

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Speaker 2: ever going to push back on you for your Christian faith,

478
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Speaker 2: read Charles Murray's book. And of course obviously he tells

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Speaker 2: tells you weird mere Christianity is part of that anyway.

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Speaker 2: More than that, we're gonna have Charles Murray back the

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Speaker 2: New Federal State. This gets I'm gonna go to final

482
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Speaker 2: about what's happening with China because all kinds of rumors

483
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Speaker 2: going on a Bashi the New Federal State people are

484
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Speaker 2: going to join Ben Harnweld tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a whole drill down of more geopolitics.

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Speaker 1: So so much is going on.

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Speaker 2: The President Trump is trying to set things right, as

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Speaker 2: I know, he's pivoting for intense work on the American economy. Uh,

489
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Speaker 2: but you gotta you gotta get the you gotta get

490
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Speaker 2: the the situation globally or we're gonna slide deeper in

491
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Speaker 2: this Third World War. Captain Fennel all kind of President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Besten's over there, going to negotiate now. Uh, we got

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Speaker 2: the Uh, we got the Australian Prime Minister here. Because

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Speaker 2: of rare earth. President Trump is is starting to engage

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Speaker 2: with with Lula, as much as he hates that.

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Speaker 1: Because of rare earths. There's all kinds of rumors.

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Speaker 2: Coming out of Beijing that you know, Gordon Chang and guys,

498
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Speaker 2: I really I love and appreciate her saying, Hey, this

499
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Speaker 2: may be the end of she's run in this whole

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Speaker 2: rare eerst thing. Maybe the last card he played. But

501
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Speaker 2: the established order over there is getting a little jiggy

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Speaker 2: on she. I think the economy's all messed up. He's

503
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Speaker 2: crossways with Trump, he's threatening up, he's threatening a kinetic war,

504
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Speaker 2: but they can't win it, and that he's going to

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Speaker 2: be removed. You're my naval intelligence expert.

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Speaker 11: What say you, sir, Well, Steve, this fourth Planeum is,

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Speaker 11: you know, the twentieth Party Congress for the Chinese Communist Party.

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Speaker 11: It's a big event because what this fourth Plenteum does

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Speaker 11: is set the stage for the next five year plan

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Speaker 11: called the fifteenth five Year Plan that will cover from

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty six to the magic year of twenty thirty

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Speaker 11: about where the Chinese Communist Party and the People's Republic.

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Speaker 4: Of China are heading.

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Speaker 11: And so for the last year there has been a

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Speaker 11: lot of rumors about gia's losing power, and it started

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Speaker 11: last October twenty four with an article or a series

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Speaker 11: of articles in the Pla Daily that talked about collective

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Speaker 11: leadership and a lot of folks good intention folks interpreted

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Speaker 11: that phraseology collective leadership as being an indicator that Gee

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Speaker 11: was losing power and that the party was starting to emphasize, well,

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Speaker 11: we need to collectively lead this country. We don't need

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Speaker 11: a strong man, singular person like Gennemore who's busted the

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Speaker 11: rules in the norms for succession of power as he

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Speaker 11: kept power past his second five year term. But if

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Speaker 11: you look at that series of articles and then another

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Speaker 11: article in December of twenty twenty four, they talk about

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Speaker 11: democratic socialism or democratic centralism excuse me, and it's not

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Speaker 11: democracy or a check on authoritarianism, but as a Leninist

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Speaker 11: organizational system, emphasizing unified leadership of the party and the

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Speaker 11: tool that the party has used to curb internal corruption.

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Speaker 11: And so what we've seen over the last year is

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Speaker 11: a series of purges of senior PLA officers.

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Speaker 4: That go back a year ago.

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Speaker 8: We saw leaders of.

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Speaker 11: The Ministry of Defense removed, and just this week we

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Speaker 11: saw the formal announcement of nine more members, one of

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Speaker 11: which was the vice chair of the Central Military Commission.

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Speaker 11: They have two chairmen or two vice chairs. She is

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Speaker 11: the chairman of the Central Military Commission and there's two

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Speaker 11: uniform officers. One of them was taken away General he

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Speaker 11: and the other General Jeong, has been attributed as having

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Speaker 11: the supernatural power to be able to purge all these

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Speaker 11: military leaders that they say are loyal to G, and

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Speaker 11: therefore Zia's lost power. And I can understand the argument

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Speaker 11: and the wishful thinking that some folks have to think

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Speaker 11: that G has now lost power of the PLA. But

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Speaker 11: what none of these analysts say, and where I think

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Speaker 11: I try to bring in a unique perspective is you

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Speaker 11: have to watch what's been happening with the PLA over

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Speaker 11: this time period, not just this last next year, but

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Speaker 11: over the twelve to thirteen years that G's been running

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Speaker 11: the People's Republic of China. And as I've stayed in

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Speaker 11: another forums, there's just been the slow, steady expansion and

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Speaker 11: aggressive nature of the PLA over this time period. So

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Speaker 11: these perturbations, these removal of these nine officers. Oh, by

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Speaker 11: the way, six of the nine weren't even active duty.

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Speaker 11: They had been former officers and they've been out of

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Speaker 11: the system for some time. So my assessment is is

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Speaker 11: that G still remains in charge of what they call

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Speaker 11: the pen, the gun and the knife hilt. The pen

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Speaker 11: is propaganda. He's clearly in charge of propaganda in China.

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Speaker 11: We see him every day on PLA Daily, People's Daily,

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Speaker 11: China Daily, Jinhua, Global Times. He's in control of the

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Speaker 11: messaging from the PRC. He's got control of the PLA

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Speaker 11: in my opinion, based on what we see the PLA doing,

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Speaker 11: like dual carrier operations this summer that went beyond the

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Speaker 11: second Island chain, or even just this last Sunday a

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Speaker 11: week ago Sunday, Chinese Coastguard ramming Filipino ships in the

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Speaker 11: South China Sea. And then the third area is called

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Speaker 11: the knife Hilt, which is essentially the state security, and

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Speaker 11: G appears to have control of the state security inside

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Speaker 11: China and the people.

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Speaker 8: Was on police, and he seems to be in charge.

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Speaker 4: Of the whole system.

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Speaker 11: And I think what happened in this process was that

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Speaker 11: G was able to do some house cleaning in advance

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Speaker 11: of today's start of the fourth planum. This was announced

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Speaker 11: last Friday, and essentially she was able to ensure that

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Speaker 11: nobody that was completely in alignment with what he has

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Speaker 11: as a vision for the PRC for the fifteenth year Plan,

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Speaker 11: a five year plan that they're out of the system now,

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Speaker 11: and so I think that's where we're at, that he

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Speaker 11: is firmly established in control. Now.

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Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, we'll hang on, hang on, hang on,

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Speaker 1: hang on, hang on, hang on. I want to get

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Speaker 1: through that.

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Speaker 2: In a second records one of the most dangerous times

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Speaker 2: in American history geopolitically. It's one of the reasons you've

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Speaker 2: got the Australian Prime Minister today, because Trump's no fan

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Speaker 2: of that guy.

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Speaker 1: About about uh about the economic war she is unleashed

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Speaker 1: on rare Earth? Do you agree with for now?

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Speaker 2: I mean, this planet is so important, particularly because it's

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Speaker 2: going to be right before President Trump's going to get

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Speaker 2: into the direct negotiations with she Jim Rickards.

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Speaker 12: Uh Well, Captain Fidel has his facts absolutely right. So

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Speaker 12: I don't dispute that at all. I disagree on the

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Speaker 12: conclusion a little bit. When he says they're doing naval

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Speaker 12: operations with aircraft carrier groups beyond the Second Isle Island chain.

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Speaker 12: Is that a sign of weakness or a sign of strength.

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Speaker 12: I might suggest it's a sign of weakness, in other words,

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Speaker 12: putting on a little bit of a show. A lot

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Speaker 12: of the p LA generals who have been purged were

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Speaker 12: actually appointed by you.

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Speaker 1: Now, are they disoil or is it is.

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Speaker 12: What's actually going on on the PLA's cleaning house of

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Speaker 12: G loyalists.

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Speaker 4: The problem is it's very opaque.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to pretend to have inside information in

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Speaker 12: terms of what's going on there, but look at the

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Speaker 12: same facts and the different conclusions. It is the case

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Speaker 12: that G has been demoted in a sense. He now

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Speaker 12: reports to a committee and the committee has run the

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Speaker 12: number of members on it. But the committee is run

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Speaker 12: by the PLA, so he's already been knocked down a peg.

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Speaker 12: None of this is and Captain Hill's right about the

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Speaker 12: propaganda outlysts, but they don't actually want to talk about this.

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Speaker 4: They're doing it, but they don't want.

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Speaker 12: To talk about it, but it takes other analysts and

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Speaker 12: experts to kind of get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 12: So my own view, yeah, facts are right, but I

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Speaker 12: think G is in a very vulnerable position.

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Speaker 4: He's losing.

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Speaker 12: You know, the term the mandate of heaven. It's an

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Speaker 12: intangible concept that do the people support you or not?

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Speaker 12: And they do if you have what's called the mandate

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Speaker 12: of heaven, and I think G has lost that manday.

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Speaker 2: This is what we talked about in the very first

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Speaker 2: episode of War and Pandemic on the twentieth of January

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, when Jack Pisobe is here, we talked about that.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, given that, how is he doing?

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Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: The boldest stroke that I think they've done on economic

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Speaker 2: warfare is here to threaten and can not just threaten

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Speaker 2: to cut off Americans even after negotating a soft deal

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Speaker 2: from heavy rare Earth, which will grind our production lines

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Speaker 2: in weapons and automobiles and you know international harvester John Deere,

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Speaker 2: all of it to a.

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Speaker 12: Halt in six weeks. Sir, well, that's exactly right. But

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Speaker 12: that is that the last card. It's a tough car.

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Speaker 12: It's a powerful car, is no question about that. And

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Speaker 12: shame in the United States for not having, you know,

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Speaker 12: for trusting the Chinese and not having thought about this

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Speaker 12: as the result of the globalists.

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Speaker 8: And the Davis crowd and all that.

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Speaker 12: And you let's talk to Australia about it.

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Speaker 8: We have a lot of bearers in the United States.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to be fairly knowledgeable in investor in some

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Speaker 12: minds in Kazakhstan that are.

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Speaker 4: That are doing quite well.

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Speaker 6: But you can't do this overnight.

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Speaker 12: You can identify the resources were got, agreements, get going

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Speaker 12: by all means. But this is a at least two years,

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Speaker 12: probably longer to be self sufficient, even with our allies

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Speaker 12: with a friendly trading group. So yeah, we're in a

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Speaker 12: very tough place right now. UP is probably going to

657
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Speaker 12: have to make a few concessions to get the Chinese

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Speaker 12: to reopen that pipeline of Magnus Andre earth based batteries.

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Speaker 1: But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

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Speaker 2: They're digging, they're digging in. You're give me the gym.

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Speaker 2: By the way, We're gonna have to go this by

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Speaker 2: lab starting a little bit early. I think we'll definitely

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Speaker 2: get for now and and records back up somehow. Records.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean is gonna make concessions? I thought

665
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Speaker 2: best in These guys are saying they're digging in. No

666
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Speaker 2: no deal, no concessions, no deal, sir.

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Speaker 12: Well, let's be let's be like the Chinese. Let's play

668
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Speaker 12: a longer game. The count offill is exactly the Chinese economy.

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Speaker 12: Let's just talk about the economy. Putting asiegy, although they're

670
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 12: clearly related, is extremely weak. They're GDP numbers for a week.

671
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Speaker 12: They they lie about them. So take you take a

672
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Speaker 12: point or two off just for propaganda, and then if

673
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Speaker 12: you do some analysis, there's every reason to believe that

674
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 12: China's very close to recession. Their debt to GDP ratio

675
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Speaker 12: is worse than the US. They have a worst step

676
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Speaker 12: problem and we do. There's a dollar shortage going on.

677
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Speaker 12: People find that hard to believe, like, hey, didn't the

678
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 12: Fed print ten trillion dollars. They did, but that money

679
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 12: doesn't go anywhere. They give it to the banks to

680
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 12: buy securities, and the banks give it back to them

681
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 12: in the form of deposits. That money doesn't do anything.

682
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 12: It's sterilized. The money that drives the world economy comes

683
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Speaker 12: from the bank's commercial banks. You're dollar banks, and they're

684
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Speaker 12: pulling in their horns. So there's every reason to believe

685
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Speaker 12: that there's a dollar shortage, a possible monetary crisis, and

686
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Speaker 12: China's in the middle of it.

687
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Speaker 8: So their economy is.

688
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Speaker 12: And by the way, six months ago they stopped reporting

689
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 12: youth unemployment they had always broken as a separate category.

690
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 12: It was about twenty seven percent when they stopped reporting it. Well,

691
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 12: that's just you know, it's worse because that's why they

692
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 12: stopped reporting it. So it's probably over thirty percent. And

693
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Speaker 12: after you kill twenty million girls, which they did, you

694
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Speaker 12: got a lot of men without and they tend to

695
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 12: be the least attractive end of the economy. So there's

696
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 12: there's an extremely volatile demographic time bomb sitting there on

697
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Speaker 12: top of everything else.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean before we go to break, you

699
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: got about a minute and a half. What do you

700
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Speaker 2: mean monetary crisis? Jim records?

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Speaker 1: Now you get my attention.

702
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 12: There was a global dollar shortage and then the Wall Street.

703
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 12: Now Wall Street loves narratives. They're just stories. They're almost

704
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 12: always wrong, not always, but usually so then what's the narrative.

705
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,839
Speaker 12: The narrative is everyone's selling treasuries. They're dumping the dollar,

706
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 12: getting out of the dollar. US interest rates are going

707
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Speaker 12: to go episode. None of that is true, and that's

708
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Speaker 12: not an opinion.

709
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 8: We have data.

710
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 12: The Treasury issues what's called the TICK Report to you.

711
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 12: I see every month. You can see what countries are

712
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 12: what they have not been dumping treasuries. They wish they

713
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 12: had more, as a matter of fact, but you have

714
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 12: to sell treasuries to get dollars to prop up your

715
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 12: guardncy and prop up your banks. There is some of

716
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 12: that going on, but that's not a sign of, you know,

717
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 12: getting out of the dollar. That's a sign of saying,

718
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 12: I wish I had more, but the banks aren't like.

719
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Speaker 1: Jim, Jim.

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Speaker 2: You and for now the producers going to deal with

721
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Speaker 2: Go go to the President in the Oval Office for

722
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister Australia.

723
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Speaker 1: We're going to get you. Guys.

724
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Speaker 2: Back up, We'll figure it out. Just stick around. Let's

725
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: go right to the Oval Office. Rare earth on the

726
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Speaker 2: menu today.

727
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Speaker 3: Ships, vehicles, guns, ammunition, everything, the whole thing. We've been

728
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: long term, long time allies, and I would say there's

729
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: never been anybody better. We fought the wars together. We

730
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 3: never had any doubts. And it's a great honor to

731
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: have you as my friend. It's a great honor to

732
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Speaker 3: have you in the United States of America. Please, would

733
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Speaker 3: you like to say us up here.

734
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Speaker 13: Well, thank you so much, mister President, for the invitation

735
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Speaker 13: here to the White House, and for showing us around.

736
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Speaker 4: The improved Oval Office.

737
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Speaker 13: And for what you're doing around here as well, and

738
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Speaker 13: for the great honor as well of my delegation saying

739
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Speaker 13: just across the road.

740
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Speaker 4: We could have walked, but I didn't let us.

741
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 13: We drove all of twenty meters there from Blairhouse. But

742
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 13: it's a great honor to be able to stay there.

743
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 13: We are great friends and we're great allies, and this

744
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 13: is a relationship that's been forged in the battlefields.

745
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 4: Of the world.

746
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 13: We have stood side by side for freedom and democracy.

747
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Speaker 13: And congratulations, I must say, mister President, on the work

748
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Speaker 13: that you've done with the Middle East as an extraordinary achievement.

749
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 13: And on defense, we've already had a discussion about taking

750
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Speaker 13: it to the next level.

751
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: Defense and security partnership with.

752
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Speaker 13: Orcasis so important for US, and I thank you for

753
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 13: the support that the administration are giving as well. You've

754
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 13: had the Chief of the Navy here as well, which

755
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 13: will play obviously a very critical role with the subs

756
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 13: and increasing the security for the region and the world.

757
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 13: And our economic relationship is so important. The US has

758
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 13: a trade service with Australia, as you know, and we

759
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 13: can continue to take what is every opportunity to improve

760
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 13: the relationship even further and make it even stronger. In

761
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 13: today's agreement on critical minerals and rareness is just taking

762
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Speaker 13: it to the next level, seizing those opportunities which are

763
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Speaker 13: before us.

764
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: To take our relationship to that next level.

765
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Speaker 13: And it's been fantastic the contact that we've had together,

766
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 13: the friendship that we've developed. And Australians love America and

767
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 13: I think Americans kind of like Australia too.

768
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Speaker 7: We do.

769
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Speaker 13: And as we go forward, I think that today we'll

770
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Speaker 13: be seen as a really Signibian day in our relationship.

771
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Speaker 4: So I thank you very much, mister President.

772
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much on forus and honor to

773
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Speaker 3: sand and we'll do it now and then we'll take

774
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Speaker 3: some questions, some good ones.

775
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 5: I think.

776
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 13: Okay, well, this is a height and a half billion

777
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 13: dollar poplin that we have ready to go.

778
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 4: That's right, so all ready to go, just getting started, and.

779
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 8: We're doing a real job on rare Earth and many

780
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 8: other things. Perhaps I could.

781
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: Ask John to say a few words and then we'll

782
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: exchange papers. But just how are we doing on your

783
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: naval purchases and all of the submarines that we're working

784
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 3: on with Australia.

785
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 8: How's that going?

786
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Speaker 14: Thank you?

787
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: As president.

788
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 14: Obviously Australia is a very poortant ally of ours in

789
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 14: the Indo Pacific and in every Battley follow with us

790
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 14: since World War One and have always been side by side.

791
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 14: The facility that they're building Surfwest is critical and very

792
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 14: important to our ability to project power in the Indo

793
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Speaker 14: Pacific and work with our allies, so we're.

794
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: Working very closely.

795
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 14: I think what we're really trying to do is take

796
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Speaker 14: the original Orchest framework and improve it for all three

797
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 14: parties and make it better and clarify some of the

798
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 14: ambiguity that was in the prior agreement.

799
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Speaker 8: So it should be a win win for everybody and

800
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 8: the submarines that we're building for Ustralia. You are starting

801
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 8: to really move along right. The process is getting very exciting,

802
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 8: isn't it getting better?

803
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 6: That's good, very.

804
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 4: Good, it'd be good.

805
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,720
Speaker 8: Thank you very much. Maybe we'll hold this up. Okay,

806
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 8: thank you man.

807
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 9: Much good you'll Submartre say what the fans pack of

808
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 9: the promis that just managed?

809
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 11: It is a critical issue.

810
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 9: First, Yes, you haven't really spoken much about a public board.

811
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 9: It was a deal that was done on the Joe

812
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 9: Bottom to sell sub raines.

813
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 8: To Australia at a time when you're really making enough.

814
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: For your own days.

815
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 9: So can you tell us have you got across the

816
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 9: details of the deal.

817
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: Do you what and what you want to It was

818
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: made a while ago and nobody did anything about it

819
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: and it was going too slowly.

820
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 8: We do actually have a lot of submarines.

821
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: We have the best submarines in the world anywhere in

822
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: the world, and we're building h a few more currently

823
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: under construction, and now we're starting We have it all

824
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: set with Anthony. We've worked on this long and hard

825
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: and we're starting that process right now and it's I

826
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: think it's really moving along very rapidly, very.

827
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 14: Well, right.

828
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 8: Australian Okay, it's getting Oh no, they.

829
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: Getting people killed and excuse me, you're next, Thank you good.

830
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: China's bad behavior has really only gotten worse since the

831
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: Office Partnership was formed.

832
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 4: With that in mind, is the door open for Australia.

833
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 11: To get additional nuclear power, submarines or other military capabilities

834
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 11: not already in the deal.

835
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 8: I think China's been very respectful of us.

836
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: They're paying tremendous amounts of money to us as in

837
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: the form of tariffs.

838
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 8: As you know, they're paying fifty five percent. That's a

839
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 8: lot of money.

840
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 3: They never were paying anything over years and years and years,

841
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: but they were like anybody else. A lot of countries

842
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: took advantage of the US. They're not taking advantage anymore. No,

843
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: China's paying fifty five percent and a potential one hundred

844
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: and fifty five percent come November first, unless we make

845
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: a deal and a meeting with presidency. We have a

846
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: very good relationship with it. Be meeting in South Korea

847
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks and we'll see what we

848
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: can do. We have a very good relationship with China,

849
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: but you know, it's been it's been probably a little

850
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: bit like your relationship with China. They try and take advantage,

851
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: but most countries do. I mean, I can say the

852
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: European Union took advantage, but not anymore. We've worked out

853
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 3: a very fair trade deal Japan. We worked out a

854
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: very fair fair deal. South Korea, where I'll be meeting

855
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: President ge we worked out a very fair deal, and

856
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: I expect we'll probably work out a very fair deal

857
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: with President Chief of China, so most of you will

858
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: be with us. It's going to be very exciting, and

859
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: I think we're going to work out something that's good

860
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 3: for both countries.

861
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 11: To have. You are least interested in acpediting the nuclear

862
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 11: power subs to Australia.

863
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 8: Well, we are doing that. Yeah, we're doing it. We

864
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 8: have we have them moving very very quickly.

865
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Speaker 4: Walls present.

866
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 14: I don't think you've ever been to Australia.

867
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 7: Have you thought about coming to Australia and trying out

868
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 7: some of the golf courses.

869
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 3: I would, and I actually have been to Australia and

870
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: they did play one of your great of courses, have

871
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 3: great girl of courses there. But I have been to Australia. Actually, oh,

872
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 3: I would. In fact I've been invited to go, and

873
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: I'll have to give it serious consideration. It's a real possible.

874
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: Today, he did, and perhaps we could time it up.

875
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: Must be said with the President's cup that Australia as well.

876
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 8: Where does the President's cup?

877
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 13: We'll organize its.

878
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 8: Place in the back.

879
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 15: In the back was the president the promunists to mention

880
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 15: that there's a tried in balance.

881
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 8: It's very heavily in America's favor.

882
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: Why does America slap such heavy tariffs?

883
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 8: Friend, and that well, we don't, yeah, what we do

884
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 8: in some cases.

885
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: We do in many cases because we've been treated unfairly,

886
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: but actually the tariffs are very light. The one thing

887
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 3: is you buy a lot of aeroplanes, so that helps

888
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: because you'll buy a lot of the beautiful Boeing's the

889
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: best of the Boeings. Boeing and by the way, Boeing

890
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: is really doing well. They have lots of orders and

891
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: they're really doing a great job. They make a great plan.

892
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: But Australia because of its location, which is great, but

893
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: one of the things dictated by that location is you

894
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: have to order a lot of aeroplanes.

895
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 8: So I guess we have that advantage.

896
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: They need a lot of aeroplanes in Australia, and that

897
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: gives us a little bit of a.

898
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 4: Signatary of war.

899
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 8: Pete egsith in any Shangri last feet.

900
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: I think it was May warned about.

901
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 10: The potential likelihood or threathol president she wearing an invasion

902
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 10: of Taiwan.

903
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 8: Twenty seventy is also the year that fleet.

904
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 10: Based West he starts to stop right hiding those US

905
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 10: and UK submarines.

906
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 8: Do you see workers as a deterred for chartering the

907
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 8: United States? Yeah, I do.

908
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 3: I think it is, but I don't think we're going

909
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: to need it. I think we'll be just fine with China.

910
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: China doesn't want to do that. First of all, the

911
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 3: United States is the strongest military power in the world

912
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: by fart It's not even close, not even close. We

913
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: have the best equipment, we have the best of everything,

914
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: and nobody's going to mess with that. And I don't

915
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: see that at all with presidency. I think we're going

916
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 3: to get along very well as as it pertains to Taiwan.

917
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean it's not the apple of his eye,

918
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: because probably it is. But I don't see anything happening.

919
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: We have a very good trade relationship. We're going to

920
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 3: have a very good I think when we leave South Grade.

921
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 3: Could be wrong, but I think we'll end up with

922
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: a very strong trade deal. Both of us will be happy.

923
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: I don't see that happening now.

924
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 8: In the prad surfs that the US enjoys with Australia.

925
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 9: Would you con see that weating the towers that even

926
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 9: carries from Australia And can you give us any details

927
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 9: about the pretty cool?

928
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the tariffs have been amazing, because you know,

929
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 3: tariffs have been really a reason that I was able

930
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: to settle almost all of the you know, I've settled

931
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: eight wars in eight months, not bad.

932
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 8: I have one more to go. It's Russia Ukraine, and

933
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 8: I think we'll get there.

934
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: But it's turned out to be nasty because you have

935
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: two leaders that truly hate each other.

936
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 8: You know, can you can't have it all right?

937
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: They hate each other beyond all else, and it makes

938
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: it actually a little bit difficult.

939
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 4: But we try.

940
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: Of the eight deals, I would say because of tariffs,

941
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: four or five of.

942
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 8: Them were settled.

943
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 3: It's an amazing thing, the power of tariffs in terms

944
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 3: of our country.

945
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 8: But tariffs have always been used against us. We never

946
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 8: use them against anywhere else.

947
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 3: And now you have a president that financial security reasons

948
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: and other reasons is using them and where we've become

949
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: a very rich nation again and a very secure nation again.

950
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 8: But we've also become a nation that used.

951
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: That power of tariffs and the power of trade to

952
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 3: settle five of the eight wars that I settled eight.

953
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 8: I'm very proud of that. Nobody else has settled one.

954
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: I don't think there's been an American president that's settled one.

955
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 3: I think there probably hasn't been outside of the two

956
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: countries involved, or however many are at war. I don't

957
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 3: think there's ever been an outside country that settled the

958
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: war period so I settled eight and eight months.

959
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 8: I'm proud of that.

960
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: Now.

961
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: In the meantime, I'm running a country that's right now

962
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: with the hottest country.

963
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 8: Anywhere in the world. We're dead a year and a

964
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 8: half ago. We were a dead country.

965
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 3: Now with the hottest country in the world economically and otherwise.

966
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 8: But I will say this, Australia pays.

967
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: Very low tariffs, very very low terriffs. In fact, Australia

968
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: pays among the lowest tariffs.

969
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 8: Go ahead.

970
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 15: Concerned that it's taken nine months to get this meeting,

971
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 15: have you had any concerns with this administration, with the

972
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 15: stance on Palestan Klamate? Change will even thinks the ambassadors said,

973
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 15: a vacu with the posse's.

974
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: Trying to investment.

975
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about him. I mean, if you

976
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,919
Speaker 3: said bad, then maybe he'll like to apologize.

977
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 8: I rout.

978
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: I know an ambassador say something bad. Man, don't tell

979
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 3: me where is he? Is he still working for you? Yes,

980
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 3: you said bad.

981
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: Dispositions to prison.

982
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 8: I don't like you either. I don't and it probably

983
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 8: never will go ahead? You want go ahead the idea?

984
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 10: Your secretary of both the nineties said there will be

985
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 10: some clarifications.

986
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: Around and ambiguities, Les, can.

987
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 8: You tell us, well, they'll get that taken care of you.

988
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: These are just minor details that they'll take John, You're

989
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 3: going to get that taken care of right. There shouldn't

990
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 3: be any more clarifications because we're just we're just going

991
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: now full steam ahead.

992
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 8: Buildings. Yeah, please, thank you.

993
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 4: Miss.

994
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 7: Are you now satisfied with Australia's defense investment or do

995
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 7: you want Australia to invest more defense?

996
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 8: Well, I'd always like more, but they have to do

997
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 8: what they have to do. You know, you can only

998
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 8: do so much. I think they've been great. They're building

999
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 8: magnificent holding pads for the submarines. It's going to be

1000
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 8: expensive to you know.

1001
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe the level of compla