WEBVTT - LISTEN | Jets Draft Podcast | Charles Davis Talks Options for the Jets (4/13) 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:06.960 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast, The 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:12.440 Draft Podcast Audition, Episode two, presented by Pepsi. The Jets 0:00:12.440 --> 0:00:15.160 no longer have Sam Donald on their roster, traded to 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.959 the Carolina Panthers. The Jets receive a sixth round pick 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.439 in two thousand twenty one, a second and a fourth 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:22.840 round pick in two thousand and twenty two. We have 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.040 Charles Davis on the podcast. Who caught up with Olivia 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.640 Landis or Livy land Is caught up with Charles Davis? 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:32.160 Should I say they broke down options at two twenty three, 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:33.920 the whole she bang. But let's start off with the 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.640 big news here QB one open for business here at 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:42.120 one Jets Drive. Yeah. I think Joe Douglas said it 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.000 very well that it's a fair assessment that the Jets 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.839 we'll take a quarterback with that number two overall selection. 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.200 Most people think that it is a certainty. Even Urban 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:57.440 Myers talked about Trevor Lawrence going to the Jacksonville jaguarris 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:00.840 at number one overall. So for long time we were 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.000 saying the NFL Draft actually starts with the New Ork 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:07.480 Jets at number two. Well, maybe you can say if 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:11.920 the Jets have already zeroed in on Nerman. Maybe it 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:14.880 goes beyond that to number three with the forty niners, 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:19.680 but it's very likely the Jets have taken a quarterback 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:23.920 at number two overall, So no surprise there. I thought 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.720 Douglas did a good job with his news conference, and 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.080 Sam Donald gets a chance at a reboot and he's 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.760 still twenty three years old, the third three years here 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.800 as a starter. Um, it didn't work out, but I 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.320 still think Sam Donald can be a very good quarterback 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.440 in the National Football League. And on the other side 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.800 of the coin, the Jets are starting a new a 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.400 lot of excitement with that, And Joe Douglas also said, 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.560 you know, if the Jets were picking not number two 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.560 overall a little further back, that the conversation of trading 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.320 Sam wouldn't even have been a thought to cross his mind. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:59.640 But I think it's just a unique set of circumstances 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.320 the way the Chips fell and now the Jets. Over 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.440 the next two drafts, they have ten picks this year, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:08.440 they have eleven picks next year. This year we've talked 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:10.520 about at five picks in the first three rounds. They 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.280 have four in the first two rounds. Next year, in 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.040 two thousand twenty two. So there's a lot of work 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.120 still to be done here for the Jets. But you know, 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.960 you mentioned the draft maybe starts to three. Some people 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.359 think maybe it starts at four because some people think, well, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.720 if the Jaguars and the Jets of zero Ton, maybe 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.200 the forty Niners have followed suit and zero in as well. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:33.840 But do you think the forty Niners have taken Mac Jones? 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.440 I really don't know. I don't know. I mean a 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.600 lot of people have made it a point to say, well, 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.760 they went to Alabama's pro day, which was the same 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.680 day as Justin Fields pro day at Ohio State. But 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:52.359 then also Justin Fields is throwing again, and the forty 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.160 Niners either one. Well, they definitely have another chance to go, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.919 but I think they're expected to be there in Columbus 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.000 to watch Justin Fields. So I don't know. I have 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.680 a hard time believing that they've zeroed in on a player. 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:06.799 But maybe I'm just naive. I don't know. I mean, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.440 do you think that they've zeroed in on Mac Jones? 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.760 I don't know. It seems like people who know the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.560 forty Niners or no their way of thinking, they got 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.119 a pretty good beat on it. So at this point, 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.000 if you're gonna tell me the forty Niners taking mac 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.840 Jones at three, am I surprised? Definitely not, I'm not surprised. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.239 I just I don't know if I would place a 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.079 bet on it. You know, this is this is what 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.320 you would place a bet that quarterbacks are going one 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:34.400 two in the two thousand one. Yes, I would, and 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.440 I would. I would go as far to say one 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.920 to three, not four. I'm not I'm not betting Ford. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.320 That would be a risky parlay anyway. With the Jets, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:48.200 I think now the intrigue naturally comes at pick three. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.240 So I mean, we can talk about that after we 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:52.080 hear from Charles Davis or you want to talk more 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.760 about the quarterbacks. We talked about it all the time 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.400 that you've been studying up on the draft with the Athletics. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.440 Stain brew their congratulations by the way, Dane. Yeah, the 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:06.560 beasts sitting at beast out there, everybody at home. Uh, 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.800 you know, if you don't subscribe to the Athletic and 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:13.320 let's just give some pub rightfully, so and applause to 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.400 Dame Brugler for everything that he brings to the table 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.919 getting people ready for the NFL Draft. But let me 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:25.000 ask you, so, right now, are you zero in in 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:32.440 on prospects or positions? On that positions? You know, I 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.760 think that, you know, when we just talk shop and 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.599 you know, there are players that come to mind, but 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.960 obviously we don't know how the board falls out in front. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.960 So I think when I look at the Jets team 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:49.039 needs or perceived needs after free agency, and who could 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.160 be there at twenty three, I think offensive line makes 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:55.479 sense there, you know, I think, and you'll hear Charles 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.640 Davis say this too, but the idea of a running 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.000 back at twenty three and thirty four is a popular opinion. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.440 I don't know if I'm ready to say that, but 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.480 I wouldn't be averse to selecting another wide out and 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.839 maybe at one of those picks, maybe most likely thirty four, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.760 cornerback stands out, and then after that linebacker which might 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.720 be an unpopular opinion, and that edge and you know, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:21.000 maybe alright, So so give me a couple of names 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.680 in each spot. Okay, as we sit here right now, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.159 so let's start with offensive line, right, So you're thinking 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.360 more interior, probably I'm thinking, yeah, I definitely am thinking interior, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.839 but also like, could there be players that have played 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:39.479 tackle in college that might fit the interior at the 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.719 pro level or maybe for one year and then kick 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.440 out to tackle, you know, all for the versatility. So 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 give me two to three names. Well, you know, can 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.240 I include Elijah Vera Tucker or we saying we're saying 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.720 he's not even an option. I'm gonna be surprised if 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:56.680 he's there, but you can definitely include them. All right, Well, 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:58.920 you know a lot I Elijah Vera Tucker is the 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.880 name to watch, I think, you know. And I asked 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.480 Dane this, dude, what would be the spot given the 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.080 Jets ammunition that if he's available, You're like, you know, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.479 we're going and we're getting this guy. And he said 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.440 the teens, you know, maybe mid to late teens. So 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.560 if he's available at like, you know, fifteen onward, eighteen onward, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.480 maybe you want to jump up five spots. I think 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.839 we should discuss this in a later podcast at that 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.720 point as far as going up, okay, um, and I 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.880 really like Creed Humphrey. You know, I think that you know, 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.200 I'm not a draft analyst, but when you read the 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.320 different reports, including Danes and here Daniel Jeremiah and Jim 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:36.640 Naggy spoke about Creed Humphrey or tweeted about him because 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.719 Creed Humphrey was at the Senior Bowl. He offers three 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.240 position versatility. He only played center in college, but he 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.000 was reliable. He was a very good player for the Sooners. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.280 And I think the wrestling background is something that shows up, 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.280 at least that supposedly shows up. So I fill Creed 0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:57.919 Humphrey go in front of Dickerson from Alabama or you 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:00.560 think it's gonna be very close, like what once one 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.920 of them goes, the other one's gonna go. Well, I 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:06.560 I think that's a fair point. I think the other 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.840 part about Landon Dickerson. You know, let's say you think 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.360 Lander Dickerson is the premier talent of the two, just 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.400 like raw talent, Landon Dickerson has the medical question. So 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.360 Creed Humphrey does not have that. So maybe a team 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.000 that wants more of a surefire, nothing sure fire let 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.640 me say that. But I want someone that doesn't have 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.600 a medical past or medical questions, I think you go 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.320 with Creed Humphrey. So and just to sign no, Creed 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:34.120 Humphrey said one of his favorite centers to watch Nick Mangold, 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.320 so that naturally intrigues me. Um. I think someone that 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:40.720 a lot of people have put Kevin Jenkins out there 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.640 right they play tackle Oklahoma State. I don't know how 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.960 good of a mover he is that we've discussed that before. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.640 One name to watch that I don't think anybody's talked 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:51.080 about this pre draft process, at least, you know, we 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.640 haven't discussed him when I've done my segment with Dane 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:59.120 Alex Leatherwood out of Alabama. He's an intriguing option too. 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.040 You know, Jedrick Wills played last year on the right side. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.480 Leatherwood has been the left tackle the past two seasons. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.800 That's an interesting name to watch. So those are the 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.960 guys to me that I'm intrigued by. Is there anyone 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:14.000 that you're intrigued by in terms of interior offensive lineman? 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.120 One guy you didn't mention was why Davis. A lot 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.160 of people think that he's one of the best pure 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.720 run blockers. I don't know about the position flexibility because 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:25.240 David's just feels like he's a guard plug and play. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.240 He's gonna start for he's gonna get after it in 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:33.520 the run game. UM So Vera Tucker. My hunches he's 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:38.360 not there aree If he is, that would definitely have 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.480 to be under consideration. Um the other position groups that 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:51.960 you mentioned linebackers after Michael Parsons and also Woosu Korama 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.640 from Notre Dame. If both those guys go in the 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.240 top twenty, who who's the next person in that range 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.240 of that three in the thirty four? So I think 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.600 that there's kind of a clump. There's Nick Bolton out 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.160 of Missouri, a little bit undersized but plays downhill very well. 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.600 Zaven Collins out of Tulsa is a very long player. 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.840 I've seen comparisons. Just today, I saw comparison Zaven Collins 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.160 is Anthony Barr two point oh Daniel Jeremiah seemed to 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:24.120 like that comparison. And then one guy who's been scorching 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.760 up in terms of a draft, yeah, Jamie Davis out 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.280 of Kentucky. So and I know you like him, and 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.440 that's an interesting name to watch. I do think that 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.679 there are other players that we've discussed, like Japrille Cox 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.280 out of l s U that might be available, not 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:42.199 at three or thirty four, maybe a little later. Pete 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.640 Learner out of Ohio state. This is where I find 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.520 it interesting because when if you were to say, like 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.640 compare linebacker an edge on this roster needs and the 0:09:52.720 --> 0:10:00.000 prospects available, well would you It's interesting because the Jets 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.440 did Carl Loss and they added Jared Davis. But I 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.280 would almost make the argument that the linebacker might be 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.240 more of a pressing need than edge. It's interesting that 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:13.640 you brought up linebacker because we're doing our positional previews 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:15.920 under New York Just dot Com, not just in video 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.679 form or podcast form, but we're looking at them auditorially. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.599 And I just looked at the roster. It just to 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:26.040 have seven linebackers on the roster right now in the 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:31.439 three up top of course c J. Mosley and play 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.319 cashman and then Jared Davis. So what else is he 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.240 gonna do there though? And how appealing would that be 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.800 to you taking somebody there early or is it a 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:47.760 philosophy bet where hey, we can get somebody later on 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.680 who fills a typical fills uh skill set that we're 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.880 looking for maybe later in the draft. What I think 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.040 we're gonna find out more about Joe Douglas and company 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.200 as far as the positions they value for this draft 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.120 in particular. Yeah, I think that's a very fair assessment 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:08.000 to say. And let's well, let's talk about cornerbacks and 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.960 wide receivers, but first let's hear from Charles Davis. Charles, 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.920 after GM Joe Douglas traded quarterback Sam Donald to the 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.520 Carolina Panthers, he spoke to the media and said, it 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.439 is a fair assessment that the Jets will be taking 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.400 a quarterback with that number two overall pick. In your opinion, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.199 who do you envision being the best quarterback to come 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.600 to the New York Jets with that number two pick? Well, Olivia, 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:35.600 I think that you know what we envisioned, and with 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:39.840 Joe Douglas and now Robert Solo and Crew envisioned maybe 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.960 the same. It may be different. To me. Zach Wilson 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.360 is the choice there at a B y U. He 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.280 would be my number two quarterback if I were doing 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.520 a whole bunch of the ranking game. But I was 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.439 started watching him as the season progressed, and then as 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:58.120 we got into the off season and obviously the run 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.280 up to the draft did a little bit more. Of course, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.760 like everyone else, and I've been extremely impressed with him. 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.680 He seems to fit exactly what you would want, and 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.400 trying to kick starter a franchise, trying to build around someone. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.240 And he's very similar to me in a lot of ways, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:15.959 with maybe even a little more athleticism that Joe Burrow 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.520 was last year coming out of Ohio State. In terms 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:22.360 of what I call second and third reaction plays, beautiful arm, 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:26.959 great touch, plays with a ton of poise. Teammates really 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.600 gravitate towards him. Having spent some time with people at 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.439 b y U and and other people around him, and 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:34.960 and and this kid loves ball. I mean, he's all ball, 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:36.880 all the time. And I give him extra points for 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:39.360 having played through injured a couple of years ago, and 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.120 people were starting to criticize him, and you know, people 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.400 not understanding what he was playing with and trying to 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.040 play through. So I like this kid a lot, and 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.880 they have great options. Obviously, you know, we we all 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.600 assumed Trevor Lawrence will be gone to Jacksonville. But out 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:58.520 of the grouping of Justin Fields, Trade, Lance, Mac Jones, 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.200 and of course Zack Wilson, of course uh In in 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.959 that grouping, I would take Zach Wilson at number two 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.160 and go from there. Well, you mentioned Zach Wilson. Let's 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.920 dive a little bit deeper into him. What about his 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.520 strengths and even weaknesses do you think would make him 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.360 a good fit in a system that is going to 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:20.160 be run by offensive coordinator Michael Floor. Well, I'll start 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.760 with the so called perceived weaknesses. You know, size is 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.720 always something that comes into play. Um, he's not, you know, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.880 the biggest, strongest, stoutest guy you're ever going to see. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.760 I don't think he's as small as maybe some people think. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.360 I think he's gonna check in somewhere around two ten 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.880 six one or so. And thank goodness, we've we've erased 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.560 that stigma about every quarterback having to be six five pounds. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:47.240 You know, we've seen smaller people be extremely successful in 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.040 this league. And you go back now in the NFL, 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.280 and you go back in time, I'm sure you would 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:56.000 talk to a lot of past coaches, GMS evaluators would 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:57.440 have said, yeah, I should have taken a chance on 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.520 that smaller guy before, you know, because there were plenty 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:02.920 of them that we rejected along the way. Well, we're 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:06.120 not doing that now. Too many of these guys can play, 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.040 and he's not tiny. So it's not like Eddie LeBaron 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:10.880 to give you one of the the will Centery one 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.160 search and google going who the heck was Eddie LeBaron. 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.079 Google them you'll find out he was a significant quarterback 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.600 in the NFL, but he was tiny. He's not that guy, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.440 all right. But at the same time as he Trevor 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:25.880 Lawrence's stature, is he justin fields stature Trey Lances dead, No, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.160 not at all. Those are big, strong, really physically well 0:14:29.200 --> 0:14:33.080 put together youngsters. This kid is put together fine. He 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.200 moves great, he sees things, He throws with anticipation, in touch. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.360 He can throw the deep ball, he can throw the 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.720 short the short passes and keep them, keep the chains moving. 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.560 He can make e Eustra plays with his feet. And 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.840 you mentioned with with Mike Laflour coming over members brother 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.480 Matt Lafore, the head coach of the Packers and coming 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.000 out of San Francisco system, that that Kyle Shanahan ran 0:14:56.080 --> 0:15:00.840 and emphasized Kyle's had success with quarterbacks of all shapes, eyeses, types. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:04.280 I don't see any I don't think anythings are gonna 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.640 change here. With Michael Floor doing the same thing. With 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:11.920 Zack Wilson, Charles, we talked a lot about Zach Wilson's strengths. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.560 But what do you think some of the biggest adjustments 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.160 are going to be that he's going to have to 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:20.920 make coming into the NFL. I'd say, Olivia, the normal 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.000 adjustments that all these quarterbacks have to make, you know, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:27.320 whatever the terminology is, and how he relates that to 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.160 what he's learned before. B y u Um, you know, 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.240 just conducting yourself as a pro all the time. Even 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.600 though a lot of these collegiate kids carry themselves better, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.280 they're still kids and still growing. You know, they're still 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.440 learning and maturing. So he'll have to do that a 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:44.840 little bit and take on some of those pressures and 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.560 realize that when you get in the huddle now you know, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.640 you're doing it with a bunch of people who have 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:52.840 families and and and maybe they don't relate quite as 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.880 well initially with you. Although when you think about b 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.720 YU with their two year missions, they have a lot 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:00.840 more could a lot more mature kids there, so he 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.000 he is kind of used to that along the way. 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:05.680 I think the other part is just realizing that day 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:10.480 in day out, the grind really goes a lot longer. Now, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.520 you mean yourself during that time how do you get 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.160 away if if even for a short time, clear your 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:17.920 mind a little busy, you can go back in and 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.160 dive back into the grind against you don't hit the 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.000 proverbial wall. And let's face it, he's coming to the 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.760 New York, you know, New York, New Jersey metropolitan area. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.440 He's gonna be in a spot now where you know, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.800 let's face it, we we lock in on everything. I 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.000 grew up in up state New York, so I know 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.280 what it's like and what he's walking into. You know, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:39.080 Trevor Lawrence going to Jacksonville. There's a ton of pressure 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.200 being the number one pick, but that's nothing like coming 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.440 to New York, not even close. So when you throw 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.160 that in there as well, those are the adjustments that 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.720 you make. But this seems like a very mature young man, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:51.960 and I don't expect to have much problem with all 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.040 of that. Well, we know that New York is definitely 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.440 tough and gritty, so that will definitely be an adjustment 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.640 for anyone, no matter who ends upcoming. But like we said, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.600 number two overall pick is going to be very critical 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:04.639 for the Jets. But let's start a little bit deeper 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.359 into those later picks number twenty three overall and number 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.360 thirty four overall. If the Jets do target a quarterback 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.880 with the number two overall pick, who do you think 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.320 they might be targeting with that number twenty three and 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:20.880 thirty four pick later on. Well, what happens oftentimes Olivia 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.160 with young quarterbacks is you'd like to pair them with 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.400 people who are going to support them, protect them, take 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.800 care of them. We go through time, and I'll give 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:33.439 one example. When Matt Ryan came out of Boston College 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:36.119 in Atlanta was just miserable. There was a huge school 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.879 of thought in that draft that maybe that the Falcons 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.720 don't take the quarterback there, right, I mean, because because 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:45.359 you take the quarterback, the team is still gonna be 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:47.240 lousy and he's gonna get beat up. Maybe you do 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.080 something different. At that time, there's a kid by the 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.879 name of Dorsey, Glenn Dorsey, who played at l s 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:54.960 U that people are saying that might be the guy 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.040 you should go get. During that time, Well, the Falcons 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.760 took Matt Ryan and and and then what they did 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.080 was they jumped back into the first round later with 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.720 a trade and drafted a left tackle out of the 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.240 USC by name of Sam Baker to give him a 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.200 foundational guy. Well, here's the beauty of it for the Jets. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.439 They did that last year. But McKay Beckton, but do 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.600 you want to continue to get your offensive line better? 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.680 You know George Fan right now is probably your right tackle. 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:20.800 Do you want him to still be your starter? Do 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.680 you still want do you still want bringing someone else 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.400 and may push him and possibly be that guy. Could 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.159 the Jalen Mayfield from Michigan still be around that you 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.280 could put it right tackle to help him out at 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.880 that time? Or do you go with another weapon because 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:37.560 at that point running backs have we probably haven't started 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.440 on that mission yet. We probably been started down that road. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.040 This sounds like one of those years where we're not 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.520 gonna have Ezekie Elliott go number four overall to Dallas 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.080 or Leonard four Nett go number six to Jacksonville and 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.960 Christian McCaffrey number eight to Carolina. This sounds like by 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.040 the time we get to the twenties, we may not 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.080 have had a running back taken, and in fact it 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.359 seems unlikely. So do the that's now think to themselves, 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.119 do we build with another person to help this young quarterback? 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:07.679 And maybe they might have their first swing. Whoever the 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.359 best running back is. Is it Travis e t N 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:14.120 from Clemson to them? Is it Najie Harris from Alabama? 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.960 Javonte Williams from North Carolina? To me, It's it's either 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.040 e t N or it's Harris. But that could be 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:23.159 a possibility for them as well. Right sitting there at 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:27.720 and part of that might be this is a pretty 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.000 deep tackle class, pretty deep offensive line class. The Jets 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.239 might very well say to themselves, let's go get that 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.439 weapon is the running back right now? Get him and 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.399 then come back and get a tackle later on or 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.880 another offensive line to continue to beef up that line 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.840 for our young quarterback. We'll see, Charles, where do you 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:53.320 specifically see the most depth in this INFL draft? Well, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.880 it's starting to become a broken record, Olivia. But every 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.920 year there are a million receivers because of the way 0:19:57.960 --> 0:20:00.080 the colleges are pitching the ball around, there's always a 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.159 ton of receivers there. But I do think there's a 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.280 lot of depth in the offensive line. I don't think 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.960 it's just restricted to one of the positions either. I 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.119 think tackles, interior guys, there are a lot of really 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.720 good players in this draft that way. I think when 0:20:13.760 --> 0:20:16.520 you flip it over to the other side, defensive backs 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.600 continue to rise because there has to be answers in 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.560 college football to try and slow down these offensive guys. 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:25.680 So a number of them actually have offense in their 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.439 background had been flipped over. Caleb Farley from Virginia Teche 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.520 is one of the leading examples. He went there as 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.639 a receiver, but he's gonna make his money as a 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.199 cornerback and that's worked out quite well for him. So 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.520 those are places that I see a ton of depth 0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:41.359 in this draft. And it's interesting because you would think 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:44.720 there'd be a monster amount of depth at the quarterback 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.639 position because we're probably gonna have five go in the 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.840 first round. But there's also a school of thought that 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:51.399 we could have five go in the first round and 0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:54.280 not pick another quarterback till round three. I don't know 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.960 that that's true. We talked about this stuff every year, 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.000 and it doesn't really tend to play out that way. 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:01.560