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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets podcast, The

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Speaker 1: Draft Podcast Audition, Episode two, presented by Pepsi. The Jets

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Speaker 1: no longer have Sam Donald on their roster, traded to

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. The Jets receive a sixth round pick

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Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty one, a second and a fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand and twenty two. We have

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Speaker 1: Charles Davis on the podcast. Who caught up with Olivia

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Speaker 1: Landis or Livy land Is caught up with Charles Davis?

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Speaker 1: Should I say they broke down options at two twenty three,

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Speaker 1: the whole she bang. But let's start off with the

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Speaker 1: big news here QB one open for business here at

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Speaker 1: one Jets Drive. Yeah. I think Joe Douglas said it

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Speaker 1: very well that it's a fair assessment that the Jets

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Speaker 1: we'll take a quarterback with that number two overall selection.

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Speaker 1: Most people think that it is a certainty. Even Urban

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Speaker 1: Myers talked about Trevor Lawrence going to the Jacksonville jaguarris

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Speaker 1: at number one overall. So for long time we were

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Speaker 1: saying the NFL Draft actually starts with the New Ork

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Speaker 1: Jets at number two. Well, maybe you can say if

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Speaker 1: the Jets have already zeroed in on Nerman. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: goes beyond that to number three with the forty niners,

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Speaker 1: but it's very likely the Jets have taken a quarterback

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Speaker 1: at number two overall, So no surprise there. I thought

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Speaker 1: Douglas did a good job with his news conference, and

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald gets a chance at a reboot and he's

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Speaker 1: still twenty three years old, the third three years here

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Speaker 1: as a starter. Um, it didn't work out, but I

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Speaker 1: still think Sam Donald can be a very good quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the coin, the Jets are starting a new a

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Speaker 1: lot of excitement with that, And Joe Douglas also said,

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Speaker 1: you know, if the Jets were picking not number two

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Speaker 1: overall a little further back, that the conversation of trading

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Speaker 1: Sam wouldn't even have been a thought to cross his mind.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's just a unique set of circumstances

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Speaker 1: the way the Chips fell and now the Jets. Over

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Speaker 1: the next two drafts, they have ten picks this year,

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Speaker 1: they have eleven picks next year. This year we've talked

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Speaker 1: about at five picks in the first three rounds. They

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Speaker 1: have four in the first two rounds. Next year, in

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty two. So there's a lot of work

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Speaker 1: still to be done here for the Jets. But you know,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned the draft maybe starts to three. Some people

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Speaker 1: think maybe it starts at four because some people think, well,

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Speaker 1: if the Jaguars and the Jets of zero Ton, maybe

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners have followed suit and zero in as well.

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Speaker 1: But do you think the forty Niners have taken Mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: I really don't know. I don't know. I mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have made it a point to say, well,

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Speaker 1: they went to Alabama's pro day, which was the same

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Speaker 1: day as Justin Fields pro day at Ohio State. But

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Speaker 1: then also Justin Fields is throwing again, and the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners either one. Well, they definitely have another chance to go,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're expected to be there in Columbus

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Speaker 1: to watch Justin Fields. So I don't know. I have

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Speaker 1: a hard time believing that they've zeroed in on a player.

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Speaker 1: But maybe I'm just naive. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you think that they've zeroed in on Mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It seems like people who know the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners or no their way of thinking, they got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good beat on it. So at this point,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna tell me the forty Niners taking mac

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Speaker 1: Jones at three, am I surprised? Definitely not, I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I would place a

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Speaker 1: bet on it. You know, this is this is what

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Speaker 1: you would place a bet that quarterbacks are going one

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Speaker 1: That would be a risky parlay anyway. With the Jets,

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Speaker 1: I think now the intrigue naturally comes at pick three.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, we can talk about that after we

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Speaker 1: hear from Charles Davis or you want to talk more

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Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks. We talked about it all the time

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Speaker 1: that you've been studying up on the draft with the Athletics.

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Speaker 1: Stain brew their congratulations by the way, Dane. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: beasts sitting at beast out there, everybody at home. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's just give some pub rightfully, so and applause to

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Speaker 1: Dame Brugler for everything that he brings to the table

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Speaker 1: getting people ready for the NFL Draft. But let me

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready to say that, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be averse to selecting another wide out and

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Speaker 1: maybe alright, So so give me a couple of names

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Speaker 1: give me two to three names. Well, you know, can

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Speaker 1: I include Elijah Vera Tucker or we saying we're saying

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Speaker 1: you know a lot I Elijah Vera Tucker is the

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Speaker 1: really like Creed Humphrey. You know, I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: different reports, including Danes and here Daniel Jeremiah and Jim

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Speaker 1: Naggy spoke about Creed Humphrey or tweeted about him because

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Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey was at the Senior Bowl. He offers three

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Speaker 1: as far as the positions they value for this draft

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Speaker 1: in particular. Yeah, I think that's a very fair assessment

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Speaker 1: wide receivers, but first let's hear from Charles Davis. Charles,

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Speaker 1: after GM Joe Douglas traded quarterback Sam Donald to the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, he spoke to the media and said, it

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Speaker 1: is a fair assessment that the Jets will be taking

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Speaker 1: a quarterback with that number two overall pick. In your opinion,

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Speaker 1: who do you envision being the best quarterback to come

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Speaker 1: to the New York Jets with that number two pick? Well, Olivia,

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Speaker 1: the same. It may be different. To me. Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: go get a certain person if you want them, or

429
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: if you want to stick and make your picks. Every

430
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: single time you can say best player available, and it's

431
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna make your roster better. And that's you know, it's

432
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: a lousy spot to be in because it means your

433
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: team is not very good yet, but it's also a

434
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 1: great spot to be and as you build towards being

435
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: that good and as we all know Olivia, it doesn't

436
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: take that long in the NFL to get good. And

437
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: and I don't mean to say that like it's easy,

438
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: because it's not. But how many examples have we had

439
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: lousy one year? Boy, they're in the playoffs. How did

440
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: they go from worst in the division to first. Sometimes

441
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: they've had veterans there and they had a bunch of

442
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: injuries and they bounced back. But other times it all

443
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: kind of came together quickly and we didn't quite see

444
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: it coming, and what a surprise it was, and wambo,

445
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: here we are. So that's the way the league is built,

446
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that I know that

447
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas and the Jets administration are banking on if

448
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: we do our jobs well free agency drafting and these

449
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: kids play well early, we've got a chance to get

450
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: better early too in this league, Charles, I'd like to

451
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: wrap up on this head coach. Robert Sala obviously came

452
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: into the building new head coach for the Jets heading

453
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: into this season. A lot of people talk about the

454
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: culture that he is trying to build and the energy

455
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 1: that he brings into this building. What do you like

456
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: about this dynamic duo and Joe Douglas and Robert Salis

457
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: so far? Well? Number one, I've always been a huge

458
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: fan of Joe douglas is and and now he's getting

459
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: this this opportunity with a coach of his, you know

460
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: that he brought in and so when they spend their

461
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: time together with their vision of the team, it's not

462
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: necessarily that previously you didn't have the same vision. There's

463
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: always that thought, oh wow, when the do GM comes

464
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: in and the head coach is sitting in place. Let's

465
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: face it, we in the media side are looking hial

466
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: is their conflict? Do they not get along? Do they

467
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: have different visions? It's not always that way. Sometimes it's

468
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: not able to execute it the way you want to.

469
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's too far down the road. But this time,

470
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: now you bring in the guy that you want. You

471
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: selected this person. Of course, you had your your people

472
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: who were around in ownership and all that, and you're

473
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: gonna build that way. And that head coach has his

474
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: own ideas about how how to do things. But in

475
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: the Jets case, Joe Douglas gets final decision and when

476
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: they make their pick the best groupings, the best pairings

477
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: in the league of head coach and GM, no matter

478
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: who has the final decision making, they come out in lockstep.

479
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: They come out and do it. And Robert Sali saw

480
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: it first hand in San Francisco with John Lynch is

481
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: a g YE. Kyle Shannon has a head coach with

482
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: Kyle as the head coach having really the final decision making.

483
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: So he knows how this works, except he's gonna be

484
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: on the flip side of it this time. And I

485
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: think that that's I think that's what I like about this.

486
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: I think these are two very intelligent men who understand

487
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: how they want to form a football team, understand how

488
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: they want to build a culture, understand the types of

489
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: players they want to bring into the building and how

490
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: they want to coach them, and and and work and

491
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: organize that way, and now they're getting their first swing

492
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: at doing so. So at this stage, my guest, Olivia,

493
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: is that you already have your bracelet. This has all gas,

494
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: no breaks from from coach Robert sala And and the

495
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 1: rest of the organization is understanding this is what this

496
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: man is going to be about. Charles is great as always.

497
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: New Paul's guy rocking the hat, the New Paul's hat,

498
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: and he's one of basically a million people out there.

499
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are gonna take b y U

500
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: Szach Wilson. You publish something mock draft mondays here for

501
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: the Jets, and you've been doing it for months, and

502
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: what's the percentage? Say to yeah, I would say, since well,

503
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: maybe before Sam Doarnold got traded. You get the occasional

504
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: trade back and then you get the occasional offensive lineman

505
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: at two. Like if you wanted to do something a

506
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: little different, maybe one justin fields. Like out of ten

507
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: mock drafts, nine of nine and a half of them

508
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: have Zach Wilson, and now nine and nine point nine

509
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: of them out of ten have Zach Wilson. But this

510
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: is why the Injurgue comes at twenty three and thirty four.

511
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: So let's go back to some prospect ideas. Let's go

512
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: to cornerback corner. I just want to make sure that

513
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: you know it didn't sound like I was saying coarter

514
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: corner back is interesting and I you know, my gut

515
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: is that you like j C. Horn. It's not your gut.

516
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: You know that for a fact, Well, it was a

517
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: gut before I knew it for a fact. I love

518
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: I love his upbringing. Joe Horn, of course played receiver

519
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, is a great competitor. UM

520
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: South Carolin line was not a very good football team

521
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: last year. Will Muschamp knows how to coach defense. J C.

522
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: Horne when he was on the field before. I think

523
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: he opted out at some point during the season, right,

524
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: he brings a tenacity to the cornerback position that I

525
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: love um and I think he's going to be a

526
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: very good pro. Now, getting back to where is j C.

527
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: Horn gonna fall? Do you think still with Caleb Farley's

528
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: recent medical questions, is he going to still be up

529
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: there in the top fifteen range or do you think

530
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: there's enough questions out there where Farley drops but we're

531
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: still thinking Patrick certain certain is the number one overall corner.

532
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: What the latter. I think that based on reading the

533
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: tea leaves of what the different analysts have put out there,

534
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: it seems actually you mentioned the mock draft. A couple

535
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: of mock drafts since Caleb Farley got hurt for those

536
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: who don't know, he had a second backed injury, didn't

537
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: opt it out of the two thousand twenty season. You know,

538
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: I think he lost a family member a year ago

539
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: and he like didn't want to risk at all potentially

540
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: losing another one, and so he opts out of two

541
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: thousand twenty. He's young to the position, he had an

542
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: injury in the past. I think both of the surgeries

543
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: stem from a weightlifting accident or something. So Caleb Farley,

544
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: there have been a couple of mock drafts that have

545
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: the Jets selecting him at twenty three. So you know

546
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: that this is this is where I find it interesting.

547
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: So if you're the Jets too, that's a good point

548
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: that we should hit on right now, is that if

549
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: you're the Jets and you're trying to continue to build

550
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: this thing. Obviously medical is going to be very important,

551
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: but I think a project or a guy that you

552
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: have to wait on just a little bit, if you

553
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: know he's going to clear medically, that might be worth

554
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: it for you. May be compared to another team who

555
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: is one two players away, or was in a championship

556
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: game last year, last year in a divisional playoff game,

557
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Because the Jets, Jets are putting

558
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: this thing together, right. Yeah, you make a great point.

559
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: And as you were saying that, I'm thinking about what

560
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: Phil Savage said last year about Bryce Hall. Obviously different situation.

561
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: Bryce Hall was a projected Day two guy, which means

562
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: round two or three, and he was selected in the

563
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: fifth round because of the injury. So the Jets got

564
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: that discount sticker where you're betting on the player. And

565
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Phil Savage said in an interview afterwards, he said, we're

566
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: betting on the future with Bryce Hall. So could that

567
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: be similar to Caleb Farley? Not saying the Jets will

568
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: do that, but it reminds me of a similar situation

569
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: because if you believe in Caleb Farley the player, you

570
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: have the ten draft picks, and I think Farley is

571
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: supposedly supposed to be ready to go by training camp,

572
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: so it's not like he'll really miss a chunk of

573
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Just think about the rookie class last year, how much

574
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 1: time they missed. They weren't on the field at all

575
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: until training camp. Yeah, so I mean that sell Men's Unfortunately,

576
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: he had a slow start to his career um, and

577
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: much of that had nothing to do with him, and

578
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: just bad luck. It's on the field, has a couple

579
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: of hamstring issues and then before you know it, it's

580
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: mid season. But he flashed down the stretch and now

581
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: if you're on you're inside the organization, you're wondering what

582
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: is his next step because big bodied receiver can go

583
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: get it long strider and then you've got Corey Davis

584
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: in there. Uh, the wide receiver position. It's awesome. Yeah,

585
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: this draft, it was awesome last year. It seems like

586
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 1: there's no end in sight, um, which is good. But

587
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: the Jets it positions the positions themselves better at receiver

588
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: positions just by adding Davis and cy Lancole. Yeah. And

589
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: one thing on the corner situation before we talk about

590
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: wide receivers in terms of corner, like if Caleb Farley

591
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: were there at thirty four at the top of the

592
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: second round. I think that conversation is a lot more

593
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: interesting than only three because let's say, let's say the

594
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Jets in theory take a quarterback at two and then

595
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: take somebody at twenty three that you think he's ready

596
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: to go, like from the get, whether that's you know,

597
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Elijah art Tucker, whether that's a different an edge player,

598
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: a different corner or whatever. If you're at thirty four

599
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you have Caleb Farley available,

600
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: and he checks medically, checks automatically, and you think that

601
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: he can be an upgrade or at least compete from

602
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: the get, I mean that conversation to me is very

603
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: interesting as opposed to twenty three. I don't know if

604
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: you agree with that. I started thinking about um when

605
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: you said edge. In my mind started just going off.

606
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: I feel like Ogillar is gonna go before three it

607
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: but it's not guaranteed. Is an edge off the board?

608
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: And how many edges are off the board by the

609
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: time the Jets pick at twenty three just because they

610
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: got Carl Lawson, I don't think means that necessarily staying

611
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: away from that same thing with Corey Davison receivers. I think, yeah,

612
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, but I think the idea

613
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: is still there, right, And you know, this is an

614
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: interesting edge class because Lari and then the two kids

615
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 1: from Miami. You know, they resonate right away in Jayleen Phillips,

616
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: a physical freak and roussoul. The last time we saw

617
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: him plays fifteen and a half sacks. Bald these number

618
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: one edge prospect. Yeah, and that was interesting. You know,

619
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: you never know where Bald he's gonna go, but he's

620
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: always in the lab and breaking it down with the

621
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: headband on. And you know he loves ross six ft seven,

622
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: so it's like you take a step, you're at the

623
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: quarterback already. Yeah, I love real quick. In terms of Baldi,

624
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: what I love about Baldi is, you know, I feel

625
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: like you start to see people, you know, different draft analysts.

626
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of the same. Baldi is

627
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: just like he doesn't pay attention to any of that.

628
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: He goes you know, No, I like this guy because actually,

629
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: well it's a little bit different. It's a little refreshing.

630
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the tape lies and he's a big

631
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: motor guy, so for Baldi. If you're taking a playoff

632
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: for a couple of plays off or things like that,

633
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: you're going down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Baldi will break you down.

634
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Let's let's just put it that way. So in terms

635
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: of receiver, let's not even talk about Jamaar, Chase, Stavante, Smith,

636
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle. There, They're gonna be gone by twenty three

637
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: unless something crazy happens. I mean, justin Jefferson was the

638
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: twenty second overall selection last year, and not saying that,

639
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: you know that will be the by the way, Jefferson, Yeah, yeah, yeah, sick. Anyway,

640
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: there's clusters of receivers, and you know, I will say

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Speaker 1: that if the Jets don't take a wide receiver in four,

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Speaker 1: there are still very good options in rounds three and beyond.

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, we discussed Ron Dale More

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Speaker 1: in our position preview video or broke down a couple

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Speaker 1: of guys. Kadarius Tony interesting, Elijah Moore I think is

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Speaker 1: a very interesting player too, and you know the list

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Speaker 1: goes on. Terris Marshall out of l s U. Another

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Speaker 1: L s U guy. We'll tell us more about Elijah More. Well,

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Speaker 1: Elijah More, I think I think the book on him

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Speaker 1: is that he wasn't in like a great situation, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean you think about the other teams like DeVante Smith,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle, I mean that team put up numbers Old Miss,

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Speaker 1: I don't think put up the same numbers or got

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Speaker 1: even got the same TV recognition. But Elijah More, I

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Speaker 1: saw a video yesterday that showed like one of his

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Speaker 1: best attributes is one route running and two he doesn't

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Speaker 1: slow down in traffic, like he'll catch the ball and

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Speaker 1: he'll just keep going and he'll make you miss. He's

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Speaker 1: kind of like Darius Tony in that way. But I

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Speaker 1: think Darius Tony gets a little more pub than Eli Moore.

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Speaker 1: And when you look at the Old Miss receivers in

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Speaker 1: the past, A J. Brown, DK Metcalf, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: Elijah More the next guy two one term pro and

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Speaker 1: two be very good as Brookie Year that was a

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Speaker 1: good parent Tennessee. So that's all kind of coming full

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Speaker 1: circle for me right now because A. G. Brown on

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Speaker 1: and Corey Davis right and then you had the powerful

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Speaker 1: running back. So you know another guy who could be

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Speaker 1: on the board, and I don't necessarily know if he's

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Speaker 1: a system fit for the Jets, not that he's not

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Speaker 1: a great player, because he is, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a productive player in the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Is Nagy Harris? So one of these teams is gonna

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Speaker 1: take Harris. But did you get to Harris because you

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Speaker 1: were thinking of Derrick Henry? Well, yeah, I was just

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Speaker 1: thinking the way they built they build it. I think

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Speaker 1: here with the Jets is that I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of people think that. And we were having this conversation

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Speaker 1: with somebody the other day. I think a lot of

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Speaker 1: people think of that Shanahan system and automatically say, well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be slinging the ball left and right, and

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Speaker 1: maybe they think about a finesse type system. The Jets

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Speaker 1: are gonna try to punch you in the face. It's

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Speaker 1: everything's predicated upon a run game. Pounding you with the

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Speaker 1: run game. Yes, your quarterback, you get him on the

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Speaker 1: move when the rolls and the boots, but you're dialing

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Speaker 1: things up down the field with the play actions, right,

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Speaker 1: And that's talking about Corey Davis. He was fourth and

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Speaker 1: play action receiving yards or receiving yards off of play

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Speaker 1: action behind DeAndre Hopkins, stefondeg and Calvin Ridley. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good company. So obviously that attribute of his

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Speaker 1: game worked for him in Tennessee, and the Jets are

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Speaker 1: gonna hope it works here in New York with MICHAELA Floor.

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Speaker 1: Denzel Mims again, it's got to be stated once again.

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Speaker 1: You gotta like what you saw out of him last year.

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Speaker 1: He was the thirteenth receiver taking in the draft last year,

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Speaker 1: And is this draft better at the receiver pa It's

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Speaker 1: it's up there. It's definitely similar. And let me just

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Speaker 1: say this about Denzil Mimms. He ran a fourth three

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Speaker 1: eight at the Combine. I mean we probably didn't see

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Speaker 1: him put on the gas as much as we wanted

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Speaker 1: to because he had the hammy injuries. And then yeah,

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Speaker 1: we we just didn't see him catch and run that much, right,

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of his receptions will go up and

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Speaker 1: get it kind of reception. So I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: Denzel Mims with the ball in his hands after, like,

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Speaker 1: with some room to run, because this year everyone's relying

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Speaker 1: on the Pro day numbers when the scout times, I

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Speaker 1: Denzel Mins ran it the electronic times. As Dom Green

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Speaker 1: told us on the podcast before Sterile Environment, everyone runs

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Speaker 1: the same thing. Everything's time the same way. So Denzel Mims, Yes,

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Speaker 1: a burner, but well yeah, these guys definitely benefited in

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Speaker 1: some kind of way this year the prospects by using

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Speaker 1: your home track or whatever. There was no no pro

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Speaker 1: day where guys are working out. They're all being tested

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Speaker 1: throwing individual schools, which I think inherently isn't an advantage

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Speaker 1: for GC these guys coming up. Like we said earlier,

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Speaker 1: the Jets have ten picks. It's gonna be exciting to

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Speaker 1: see how it all pans out in just a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks in Cleveland, Ohio. That's all we have here

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Speaker 1: on the official Jets podcast. The Draft Podcast, presented by

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