1 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Good evening, America, and welcome to the Wednesday edition of 2 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Just the New's no Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon. 3 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: You know this is reporting for Washington DC. I got 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: a homework assignment for you to start today. I want 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: you to go to wired to Fishcoffee dot com and 6 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: go check out some of the best coffee I've ever had. 7 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: It's knock Duncan don'uts out of my life after thirty 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: five years. It is a great coffee and it also 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: does good. 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The first day of the Cardinals 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: concliff did not result in the nomination of a pope. 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: We'll see where that goes. But we expect a selection 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: sometime in the next few days. We'll keep you up 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: to speed on that. The cardinals convene in about eight 23 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: hours from now in Italy, and there'll be another full 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: day tomorrow at the conclave. All Right, the second smoke, 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: it's still clearing in Washington, people reacting to the story 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: that we began right here on this show last night, 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: that Biden era member, that memo that told the Justice 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Department in the FBI, you no longer have to investigate crimes. 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: You can investigate concerning non criminal behavior. In other words, 30 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: anything you want. Someone Spence pisir nose says something the 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: wrong way xenophobic. Oh believes that China might actually have 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: been the source of the coronavirus. That all would have 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: been investigated by the way. They were also told they 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: should start to investigate people who might be xenophobic. Now, 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: why is that important? Because that's the term have to 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: use to weaponize anything. They disagreed with Donald Trump when 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: he was president. The first time they caught him a 38 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: eno phoebeny shut the border down, he caught him a 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: enafhoebeny to dead, suggested that we reduce a number of 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: immigrants from countries that had high terrorism rates called him 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: a Zina phobe when he said, oh, China was definitely 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: behind the virus. They weaponized the term and then they 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: put it into the FBI's mandate to counter domestic terrorism 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: in this country. In the name of fighting domestic terrorism, 45 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: they created a domestic terror on our civil liberty. And 46 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: today all across the country, people have been reacting. We 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: heard last night from Andy Biggs. Today, we've heard from 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Congressman Greg Study, We're going to hear in just a 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: few minutes from the Great Alan Derschwitz. We are asking 50 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: the FBI is this still operational or will you pull 51 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: it back? My guess is the Casper Tel FBI is 52 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: going to tell its agents today don't follow that memo anymore. 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: And we've asked the White House, are you going to 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: rescind this memo because right now it's still an operation. 55 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: As soon as we get an answer from Carolyn Levitt 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: and the White House team will get you that as well. 57 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: But everywhere there smoke has still said. People realizing this 58 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: Mamma wasn't just a piece of paper, it was a 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: significant threat to yours and my civil liberties. With that, 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm Gona turned to my amazing co host, Amanda d 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of other headlines you're watching today, right, Indeed, 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: I thought the Search and General just dropped out. 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: I can't wait to talk about it in the E block. 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 2: I am so excited. 65 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 3: But yes, John, President Donald Trump is taking his bold 66 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: America first approach to the entertainment industry, saying that he 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: is open to meeting with Hollywood executives not to cave 68 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: to elites, but to ensure that tariffs protect American jobs 69 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 3: and values, including in that important industry. He said, I 70 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: want to help the industry. We're all about jobs. And 71 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: he said that, making clear that any conversation with studio 72 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: bosses would center on keeping production here in the United States. 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: And Trump has many prior relationships in the entertainment industry, 74 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: so time will tell if that factors into these conversations. 75 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: And in some woke America news, Salt Lake City City 76 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: just made LGBTQ flag's official city flags. In order to 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: dodge the state's ban on in government buildings. Salt Lake 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: Cities move to designate LGBTQ flags as official city flags 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: as a blatant attempt designstp Utah's state ban on political 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: symbols in government buildings. 81 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: This maneuver isn't about unity. 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: It's about imposing a political ideology through government institutions and 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: running up the flagpole all right. Conservatives believe that government 84 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: spaces should reflect shared civic values, not serve as billboards 85 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: for progressive activism, and also taking us to some immigration updates. 86 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: In a sweeping move that tramples on executive authority and 87 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: national sovereignty, a Biden appointed federal judge has ordered the 88 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: immediate resettlement of twelve thousand refugees, directly undermining President Trump's 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: efforts to restore sanity and security to America's immigration system. 90 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: US District Judge Jamal white Head, installed by Biden back 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, issued the ruling despite the Trump 92 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: administration's clear legal argument that only a fraction of those 93 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: cases could be safely processed. Another judge who thinks that 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: despite the fact that he was not elected by the 95 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: entire country, his word stands over the man who Americans. 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: Did go for. 97 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing, isn't it? 98 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 2: Incredible? 100 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I'll keep it in tally. It's 101 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: like two dozen of these judges have been reversed at 102 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: either the appeals court level or the Supreme Court. But 103 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: they're going to keep doing it because at the end 104 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: of the day, it's not about the law. They didn't 105 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: care about the reputations in the judicial system. It's about 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: the politics that they wear hones sleeve. It's just going 107 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: to take some time, but President Trump's going to get 108 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: over that hump pretty soon. All right. Whenever we talk 109 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: about concerns about several liberties, we turned to one of 110 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: the most coaching voices in the legal profession. He's been 111 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: doing it for more than sixty years, more than fifty 112 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: books during those six years. That's amazing. I wrote two books. 113 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm still exhausted. He is the Great Alan Derschwitz. We 114 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to him a little bit earlier. 115 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Take to listen, all right, joining us now that he 116 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: gave his opinion on all of this. One of America's 117 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: greatest legal minds, Harvard Law professor emeritus and the author 118 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: of many books in could he Get Trump? And my 119 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: new favorite Palestinianism, the Great Alan Derschwitz. Alan, great to 120 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: have you on the show. 121 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: Thanks to be on. 122 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: All right. I want to go back to this memo 123 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: that I shared with this morning, a lot of people 124 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: talking about it. We went from a predicate standard in 125 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: the FBI law enforcement that you had to have a factual, 126 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: reasonable basis that a crime committed to if they's just 127 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: concerning non criminal behavior, go ahead and target Americans. Your 128 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: thoughts on what you read in that. 129 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 5: Memo, Well, it just shows that the Democrats really started 130 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 5: this warfare and lawfare. They started it with memos like this. 131 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 5: They started it with the sixty five project that has 132 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 5: a lawyers trying to just barrow lawyers who have defended Trump. 133 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 5: What we're seeing is a tit for tat now. Unfortunately, 134 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 5: both sides are using the legal system to go after 135 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 5: their enemies. The Democrats started it, the Republicans are responding 136 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 5: on which neither side would use it. I would like 137 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 5: to see us return to a day we're the only 138 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: people who are ever investigated were people who actually committed 139 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: crimes without regard to their political affiliation or to their 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 5: identity politics in any way. 141 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: But we're a long way from that in our country. Unfortunately. 142 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: Heah, we are well, and I know that people probably 143 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: have a sonnier outlook on what can happen under the 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: roof of the Hoover Building with Cash Bettel at the top. 145 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 3: But I imagine for him that seems insurmountable because it's such 146 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: a huge agency. Do you think it's possible to root 147 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: out these type of issues at the FBI and even 148 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 3: the DOJ to some. 149 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Agree, I do. 150 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 5: I think that a message from the top from the President, 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 5: from the Attorney General, from the head of the FBI, 152 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 5: a firm message saying lawfare is over. We're not going 153 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 5: to try to get even or get back with them. 154 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: We're not going to fight law fair with lawfair. From 155 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: now on, we prosecute only people based on probable cause, 156 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 5: based on high standers, based on objective sanders, doesn't matter 157 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: what party the person belongs to. 158 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: We no longer accept the solid. 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 5: Notion with Levente Berrier, show me the man, and I'll 160 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: find you the crime. That's what Biden seemed to have 161 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: been saying, and that's what I think the sixty five 162 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: project was saying. The irony is that the Bar Association 163 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: is now so angry at the Trump administration for going 164 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 5: after judges and going after law firms. It didn't say 165 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 5: a word when the Democrats started this. By the sixty 166 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 5: five Project by having a group of people saying we're 167 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 5: explicitly going to try to this bar any lawyers who 168 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 5: represented Donald Trump or who helped Donald Trump, who provided 169 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: legal services donald Trump. 170 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: I know because I was one of them. 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 5: I was his lawyer in front of the United States 172 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 5: Center and I performed a constitutional duty and they filed 173 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 5: dis barman charges against me. Fortunately they were dismissed, but 174 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 5: it cost me one hundred thousand dollars to defend myself, 175 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 5: and many lawyers won't take that chance. And so the 176 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 5: sixty five Projects started this and had a chilling effect 177 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 5: on lawyers. They were the McCarthy ice of the decade. 178 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 5: And I think that what we're seeing now is a 179 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 5: little bit of payback, and I wish that would stop 180 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 5: bull So I made a speech at Mari Lago if 181 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: President Trump was there, and I said, I thought the 182 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 5: best way to respond to democratic lawfair is to make 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: sure that every case that's prosecuted in this administration is 184 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 5: prosecuted fairly. And President Trump sure has had an agreement, 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: and I think if he had his way, that would happen. 186 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm hoping that that trickles down to local US attorneys 187 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 5: and prosecutors, and that we go back to a situation 188 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: where the only people who are investigated are people who 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 5: are likely to have committed actual crimes. 190 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. So I want to turn 191 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: to another subject, because you so sure helped us through 192 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: this period of time when the President was convicted in 193 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the New York Manhattan trial, and it's always been a 194 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: question when is the right time? When does the president 195 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: now have jurisdiction to appeal? Tell us whether you think 196 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: President now, I know that the judges said is a 197 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: little burky, but does he have the right to appeal? 198 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: And what will happen when he gets this to the Supreme. 199 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 5: Court absolutely has the right to appeal. I think his lawyers. 200 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 5: He's hired lawyers. I think trum Sullivan and Cromwell of 201 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: big firm, some of them Supreme Court law clerks, and 202 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 5: they are, as far as I know, in the process 203 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 5: of drafting and filing the appeal. 204 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 4: He should win this appeal hands down. 205 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 5: I have never seen a week of criminal case in 206 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 5: my sixty years of practicing criminal law. If I were 207 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: arguing the case for him, the first thing I would 208 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 5: say to the government is tell us your theory, explain 209 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: to us how somebody can be prosecuted for a crime 210 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 5: that you had to make up. 211 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 4: There's no such crime in the statute books, and I don't. 212 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: Think the government would be able to even articulate what 213 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: the theory is. So I think they'll be reversal. If 214 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: it's not at the lowest level of the Appellate Division 215 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: or the Court of Appeals in New York, it will 216 00:10:58,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 5: certainly be at the. 217 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: Supreme Court of the United States. 218 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 5: So I'm relatively confident that this horrible miscarriage of justice 219 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 5: will not be able to withstand a serious impell at review. 220 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: Allan, you mentioned the Bar Association a little while ago, 221 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 3: whether it's a private practice lawyer, whether it is a 222 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: US attorney or an assistant US attorney, whether it's a judge, 223 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 3: anyone in the legal profession. When it comes to your 224 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: experiences and being dirshed, does the Bar Association hold some 225 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: type of responsibility for this? And if you are able 226 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: to you can't get rid of people's political ideologies. I 227 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 3: understand that, But is there a new standard that needs 228 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: to be set by the Bar Association that could maybe 229 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: reform the legal mentality? 230 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: Yes, but what we need is new people in the 231 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: bar Association. 232 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 5: The bar associations have become themselves woke, progressive and left 233 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: many of them, not all of them, but certainly in 234 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 5: places like New York and Massachusetts and some of the 235 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 5: places the Bar Association has not been applying the same 236 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 5: single standard of criticism for people on the right and 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 5: people on the left. Look, the legal profession in general, 238 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 5: even Republicans. The legal profession in general does not like 239 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. And that shows in so many different ways 240 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: his inability to get some lawyers that he wanted to 241 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 5: retain initially because they said, and they told him, we 242 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 5: don't want to be Dershowitz. Actually that became a verb, 243 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 5: we don't want to be Dershowitz. We don't want to 244 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: have bar charges filed against us. If they can do 245 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 5: it against him, they can do it against anybody. And 246 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: that's why they came after me to send a message. 247 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 5: And it worked for some people, because some lawyers are 248 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 5: not courageous. But some law firms are fighting back, and 249 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 5: that's good. But I'd like to see the fighting back 250 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: become neutral and not to say, oh, you can't go 251 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: after us because we're Democrats. And the Republicans that were 252 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: going after us, their argument has to be. You can't 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 5: go after us because we're lawyers. We're John Adams Arribahamlin. 254 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 5: We defend people, even unpopular people, and we do it 255 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: ethically and zealously, and as long as we comply with 256 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: ethical standards, you can't come after us if you don't 257 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 5: agree with who our clients are. But we live in 258 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 5: America today where lawyers still to this day are judged 259 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: by their clients, and people are judged by who they 260 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 5: represent and rather than how they represented them. So I 261 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 5: think we're a long way from being able to have 262 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 5: objective standards fairly imposed by bar associations that are non 263 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 5: in any way political parties, and we have a lot 264 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 5: of work to do to get there. 265 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope one day the verb Dershowitz doesn't mean 266 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: that you've been canceled, but it means that you held 267 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: the highest standards of the law, because that's what your 268 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: career has been all through your sixty plus years in 269 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: the legal system. And I want to turn to something 270 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: happened about an hour ago. Moved on justin is an 271 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: hour ago mass pro Palesadian anti Israel protesters invade the 272 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: library during finals week at Columbri University. You just wrote 273 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: a very powerful book, Palestinianism and why It's a threat 274 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: to human rights democracy, and tell us a little bit 275 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: about how we get past this seems to be very 276 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: recurrent cyclical moment in the Palestinian protest movement. 277 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, they're not pro Palestinian. They are 278 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,359 Speaker 5: anti Israel, anti Semitic. So the last thing that Palestinian 279 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: people need are Columbia students protesting. He doesn't do any 280 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 5: good to the Palestinian people who want to have a state. 281 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: You want to live in dignity, that's not There's nobody 282 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 5: protesting that calls for the two state solutions. 283 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: They all call for the end of Israel, as the 284 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 4: nation say to the Jewish people. 285 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: Nobody in these protesters calls for the two state solutions. 286 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: So they're not pro Palestinian. 287 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 5: They're anti American, they're anti Western, they're anti Semitic, they're 288 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: anti Christian, they're anti academic. 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: And the universities let them get away with it. 290 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: Colombia said they weren't going to allow students to wear 291 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: mat watch turn on his television. These guys are wearing masks, 292 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: they're hiding their identity. That should be a crime, and 293 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 5: it should certainly be an expellable offense, but universities are 294 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 5: letting them get away with it because faculties support these students. 295 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 5: Many faculty members support these students. The report on Harvard. 296 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 5: I'm writing a new book called The defund to defend 297 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 5: Who's going to win Trump's war against the IVY leagues, 298 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: And in it, I go through the Harvard report, which 299 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 5: goes case after case after courses classes being taught that 300 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 5: are anti Semitic and anti American and very political, and 301 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: Harvard lets them get away with it, and Columbia lets 302 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 5: them get away with the Columbia has now lost its 303 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 5: next president. I know the new acting president, and I 304 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: hope she'll do something about this, and if she doesn't, 305 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 5: Columbia is going to fail, just like Harvard is going 306 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: to fail. American universities are going to lose their stand 307 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: as among the great universities of the world unless they 308 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 5: can restore meritocracy, honesty, integrity, and academic standards. You know 309 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 5: right now, you get admitted largely based on race or identity, 310 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: and then you don't get grades, so nobody can demonstrate 311 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: whether you've done your work. The message that is sent 312 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 5: to the students today, you'll get in because of your race. 313 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 5: You're not going to get graded. You're going to graduate 314 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: no matter how little work you do. And then you're 315 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: going to get a job, and you're going to be 316 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 5: evaluated in your job. 317 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: Based on your race and your gender. So why work hard? 318 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 5: I mean, that's the message that's being sent to students 319 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 5: today at universities all over the world, and especially at 320 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: ivy Lea Universities. 321 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 322 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: Well, you have been so eloquent and so persistent in 323 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: trying to correct this problem. Alan, We're so lucky to 324 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: have you on the show today. Thanks for joining us, 325 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: my pleasure. 326 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: Thank you. 327 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Let's congrative personalanders up, good one, thanks, great great book. 328 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: All right, folks, I quick commercial bank. Let make a back. 329 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Ron Johnson has something to say about that memo as 330 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: well as whether he's getting the transparency it's promise from 331 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: the Tump administration. We're going to have both of that 332 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: issues up next that this commercial break. Hey, it's a 333 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: new day in America and a new administration in Washington, DC. 334 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: There is a lot of excitement and optimism about the future, 335 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: but the reality is there's a lot of work to 336 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: do as well, especially when it comes to fixing our 337 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: broken healthcare system. 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Well, thanks to John Solomon's reporting. 366 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: Over at justinews dot com and of course T and 367 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 3: I Tulci Gabbert who unredacted those documents, we now know that, 368 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: in fact, there was a directive to go after concerning 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 3: non criminal behavior. So joining us now someone who is 370 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 3: a friend of the show, someone who always has cogent 371 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: ideas about all of these types of things from the 372 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: Great State of Wisconsin. 373 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: Centator Ron Johnson, Senator, thanks so much for being here. 374 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: Well, Amandallo John, glad to be with you. 375 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: Thanks glad to have you. Sir. 376 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: I think that for a lot of Americans this is shocking, 377 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 3: unfortunately not surprising. They made us feel like fools for 378 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: saying that this reflected something similar to lowest learners Irs 379 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: scandal going after conservatives, when in fact it was not. 380 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: Well, you're right, it's not surprising. You're right, it is shocking. 381 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: And again, elections have consequences, and in this case it's 382 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 6: a very good consequence that now this is coming the light, 383 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 6: and I appreciate Telsey Gabbert looking up exactly what happened 384 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 6: and then releasing this information. It's important the American public 385 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 6: understands what government does to it, how it tramples on 386 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 6: our constitutional rights. You know, from my standpoint, I'm not 387 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 6: a fan of government. I don't think our founders were 388 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 6: fans of government. They realize that where men and women 389 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 6: were not perfect, if you don't want to live in 390 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 6: anarchy and chaos. 391 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: You need some form of government. 392 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 6: But government ought to be limited, it ought to be 393 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 6: restrained by the new married powers of the Constitution. Unfortunately, our 394 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 6: government has busted out of those constraints long ago. Spends 395 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 6: way too much money, over seven thousand billion dollars a 396 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 6: year this year. 397 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, again, I. 398 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 6: Knew we were in trouble when we stopped talking about 399 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 6: billions went to trillions. So it doesn't seem like, oh, 400 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 6: four point four to seven trillion, it's just a few 401 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 6: trillion dollars, and those are thousands of billions of dollars. 402 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Nobody is in control of this thing. Is completely out 403 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: of control. 404 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 6: And unfortunately, when you have a radical left president, you 405 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 6: know a lot of people are pretty pretty sympathetic with 406 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 6: a ra of president inside government and they do his 407 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 6: And that's exactly what we saw. These agencies going after 408 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 6: President Biden's the less political opponents and trampling our constitutional rights. 409 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty remarkable. This is still an operational counter terrorism 410 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: policy House of this afternoon. It was obviously drafted by 411 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: the National Security Council, President Trump, FPI Director Cash Bertel, 412 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: Attorney General Pam Bonni. What would you like them to 413 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: do to make sure these ideas are going after the military, 414 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: making xenophobia a crime, or opening up an investigation where 415 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: there's no evidence a crime. How do we get rid 416 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: of that from the system? 417 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 6: Well, rescind it, reverse it, make sure that everybody in 418 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 6: these agencies realize this is was and is completely unacceptable, 419 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 6: and quite honestly, I would like to hold those individuals 420 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,479 Speaker 6: accountable that tramped on Americans rights. Now, again that starts 421 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 6: with the Joe Biden and Democrat in that administration. They 422 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 6: were held accountable by being voted out of power. But 423 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 6: again I think you have to take a look into 424 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 6: the actions of individuals that should have known better. 425 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: Should we get accounting, sir, of how many Americans in 426 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: which Americans might have been targeted under this policy? 427 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 6: Yes, I think these are the types of things that 428 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 6: do need to be investigating. Again, it's not for retribution, 429 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 6: it's just to make sure it never happens again, and 430 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 6: that individual partisan actors inside these agencies that deviolated agency rules. Again, 431 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 6: if you followed the if you were following the presence orders, 432 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 6: that's one thing. But if you were violating laws or 433 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 6: rules inside your agencies, I think that's another thing. And 434 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 6: I think those individuals ought to be discovered, exposed and 435 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 6: held them accountable. 436 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: That's so important, Senator. 437 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 3: I anticipate there are going to be a lot of 438 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 3: Americans out there who, while it's great if the policy 439 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: is rescinded, there's still going to be a pretty substantial 440 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: amount of concern about agents and law enforcement who were 441 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 3: champing at the bit to follow this type of directive. 442 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 3: Is that a concern to you and is that something 443 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: that should also be looked into? 444 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 6: It is Again, I think you guys are that we 445 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 6: have whistleblowers talking about certain FBI agents that you know 446 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 6: were partisan actors and violated their procedures in terms of 447 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 6: opening up investigations on their own, not following procedures, and 448 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 6: that quite honestly resulted in Jack Smith's investigation the trampling 449 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 6: of President Trump's constitution rights as well. 450 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: So no, there these are things have to be investigating, 451 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: as one word, in learning, because it does look like 452 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: the Biden White House and Jack Smith were in cahoots together, 453 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: which is a line that normally a prior administration would 454 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: never have crossed before the Joe Biden erap. Your thoughts 455 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: on what we're learning and what we still need to 456 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: find out? 457 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 6: Well, as you recall too, you know, Joe Biden claimed 458 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 6: he was keeping hands off and you know, letting justice 459 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 6: to be being mistered equally. But those things are all lies. 460 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 6: I mean, we know that Joe Biden was a monumental liar. 461 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 6: It's one of the reasons Centergrass and I have requested 462 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 6: records from the National Archives of communication between the Biden 463 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 6: administration officials, Joe Biden himself potentially with those prosecutors and 464 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 6: not just Jack Smith, but you know, the folks in Georgia, 465 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 6: the folks in New York. I know House judiciary committees 466 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 6: looked into these things. Again, we need a cleaning of 467 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 6: the house here, but we need first the exposure. We 468 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 6: need to understand exactly what happened. We need to know 469 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 6: the truth. 470 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: Senator You and Senator Grassley have both been absolutely savage 471 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: for lack of better terms, when it comes to pursuing 472 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: the truth. 473 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: And I know the American people appreciate that. When it 474 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 2: comes to seeking out. 475 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 3: Documents that you need for your investigations, whether it's NAR 476 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: or any other federal agency, are you finding that there 477 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: is any recalcitrants when it comes to turning over those items. 478 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 6: Absolutely, But listen, the deep state does not give up 479 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 6: in secrets welve. I mean, for example, RFK Junior became 480 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 6: h secretary vowing and is his goal and he has 481 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 6: absolutely dedicated this radical transparency. 482 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: It's hard to get it out of HHS. To this day. 483 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: We're starting to get documents. 484 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 6: But again, the deep state has many ways of frustrating 485 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 6: the efforts. No matter who is president or who is 486 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 6: secretary of the agency that they look at a new sector, 487 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 6: they look at a new president, particularly one they don't 488 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: agree with, is basically this two shell pass. We can 489 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 6: we can keep our heads down, we can wag them 490 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 6: out we have evidence potentially of destructive of records that 491 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 6: we had repeatedly entered preservation of record demands on that 492 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 6: should have been filtered through the agency. So you know, 493 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 6: we have this Tom Shouper mccuro who initially we couldn't 494 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 6: even determine. 495 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: Whether you see it, working for CDC. 496 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 6: Apparently he's we have not gotten any records responsive in 497 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 6: terms of his communications on the vaccine safety. 498 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: So it's taking us time. 499 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: Now AJHS is doing its own internal investigation, so that 500 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 6: hampers our investigations as well. 501 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: So again, this is very frustrating. This is a tough slog. 502 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 6: It's going to take quite some time to really get 503 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 6: down and get to the truth and get all the 504 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: documents that quo the American people ought to be able 505 00:25:59,520 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 6: to see. 506 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we deserve it. It's our government at the 507 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: end of the day. Not there is. That's how it's 508 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: hard to get through to these barreaucuts. Sir. You have 509 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: the ultimate solution to solving a big weaponized government that 510 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: is just to simply shrink it. You put a really 511 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: reasonable idea. A lot of people praising you for putting 512 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: this idea. Let's just get back to six point five 513 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: trillion dollars here spending it that's sort of a pre 514 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: pandemic level, sort of with a little bit of inflation 515 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: at it. Is there a will in your own party 516 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: to tackle the sort of spending cuts that need to 517 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: be due to get to that number. 518 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 6: Well, unfortunately, we've had a lot of inflation, so that 519 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 6: you know, the four point four inflace up to about 520 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 6: six point five for next year. 521 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Yep. 522 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 6: Okay, so that's a good target. But we're spending right 523 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 6: now more than seven trillion dollars. Again, listen, I appreciate 524 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 6: the boldness, the swiftness, the decisive decisiveness President Trump has 525 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 6: been displaying here and first hundredays. 526 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: He has so many issues to deal. 527 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 6: With, But again I just fundamentally disagree with him wanting 528 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 6: one big beautiful bill that's going to be one incredibly 529 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 6: complex bill. And you know, we've got big spenders in 530 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 6: our party who don't want to reduce any government spending 531 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 6: or very little of it, and so as a result 532 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 6: of trying to craft one big beautiful bills is being 533 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 6: very difficult. So I would have much rather had us 534 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 6: take this bit by bit. So we're debating this big, beautiful, 535 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 6: complex bill we have the time to do it. And 536 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 6: so right now with the House trying to meet the 537 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 6: May thirty first deadline, they're simply not the time to 538 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 6: go through line by line by line, particularly now when 539 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 6: you've got a new administration. People like Russ voter at 540 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 6: omb and he is just overwhelmed with what he has 541 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:44,199 Speaker 6: to do. 542 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: So we should have taken this in parts. 543 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 6: By the way, it's still not too late had we 544 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 6: done it, and I was obvious suggesting three steps. Provide 545 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: the border security defense funding, and that Senate bill would 546 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,239 Speaker 6: have spending by eight hundred and fifty billion dollars, more 547 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 6: than half the else's current goal, which they're having a 548 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 6: hard time achieving. Second step, just extend the current tax code, 549 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 6: take an automatic tax increase, massive tax increase off the 550 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 6: table that would return certainty the economy. 551 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: Then we could have already done those two. Then we 552 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: can be. 553 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 6: Working on this big, old, complex, messy I guess beautiful, but. 554 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: It's going to be really hard to pass. So you know, 555 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: for my second I could have done that. 556 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,239 Speaker 6: It's not too late, particularly the fact that I'm not 557 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 6: sure this big, beautiful bill can pass. I'm not going 558 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 6: to vote for it if it actually increases the deficit, 559 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 6: and right now it looks like it will increase the desert. 560 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 6: That's completely unacceptable to non starter. So acknowledge that this 561 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 6: was a mistake. The sooner we do that, the sooner 562 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 6: we can get the border funding, the sooner we can 563 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 6: take an automatic tax increase out the table. Honestly, increase 564 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 6: the debt ceiling, which we're going to have to do, 565 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 6: probably not as much as what President Trump wants to do, 566 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 6: it incrementally because we need that debt ceiling is the 567 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 6: only leverage we have against the big spenders in both parties. 568 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: A great point. 569 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 3: I guess big beautiful is synonymous with hot mess at 570 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: this point. 571 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: Sir, I want to dig into the great work that 572 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: you've done on vaccines before we let you go. 573 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 3: The left went crazy when RFK was appointed, and then 574 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: Jay Bodicharia and Marty McCarey, and now we have doctor 575 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: vine Prisad who is going to be examining the vaccine schedule. 576 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: I have a feeling you are going to want to 577 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: keep an eye over that shoulder to see what transpires. 578 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: What do you want to see from that vaccine schedule? 579 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: Do you want to see it reduced or just more 580 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: investigations and research into it. 581 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 6: Well, first, I want to restore an integrity to science 582 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 6: and research, which we don't have anymore. 583 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: I want the federal. 584 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 6: Health inencies to be honest and transparent with the American public, 585 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 6: which they haven't been and they still aren't. Again, I 586 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 6: think they will be under Bobby Kennedy. He's absolutely dedicated 587 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 6: to doing it. So I couldn't be happier with the 588 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 6: people who being put in these positions that they are 589 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 6: true scientists, which means they are skeptical. They want to 590 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 6: see the evidence, and that's what we need to see 591 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 6: the evidence. We have to be allowed to ask the questions. 592 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 6: We haven't even be able to ask the question many 593 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 6: you raise any concern about the fact that you've gone 594 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 6: from a few vaccines to over eighty five in the 595 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 6: childhood schedule, ask the wisdom, I mean, does it make 596 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,959 Speaker 6: sense to be pupa little infants with multiple vaccines at 597 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 6: the same time. You get immediately labels an anti vaxxer, 598 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 6: and then then you find out as much as Fauci 599 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 6: lied to us, including that these vaccines have been tests 600 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 6: against true placebols, they haven't. 601 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: Right. 602 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: So one of the first actions of. 603 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 6: Bobby Kennedy is he's going to require that future vaccines 604 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 6: are tests against true place ebrals. I hope we test 605 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 6: existing vaccines against true placebos. So it starts with bringing 606 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: true science, return integrity to science, beyond some transparent to 607 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 6: the American public. 608 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely important. 609 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 3: Well, sir, you were always asking questions and you are 610 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: always pursuing answers, and our show in this country is 611 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 3: so much better for it. 612 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. Senator Ron Johnson, 613 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: thanks for having me on. 614 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: Have a great day. 615 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: All right, everybody, We've got to take a quick break, 616 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 3: but we'll be back on the other side. 617 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: Hey, America, for decades, you've worked hard, paid your taxes, 618 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: and stood by the values that built this great nation. Honesty, accountability, 619 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: and of course faith. But now you're seeing a government 620 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: that's bloated, reckless, and in many cases completely unaccountable. 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Ben Berkwam and Oscar Rameraz. 637 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: They have covered the border feralsey, particularly during the Biden crisis, 638 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: and since then they keep us up to data on 639 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: the drug cartel wars, the fentanyl crisis. They are courageous, 640 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: they are accurate, they are entertaining, they are informative, and 641 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: we're lucky right now to be joined by one of them. 642 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice Immigration and Border correspondent Oscar Rameraz. Oscar, 643 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: good to have you back on the show. 644 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 4: Amanda. 645 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 7: John is always a pleasure to be with me, but 646 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 7: with you guys, thank you for the invitation. 647 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: Well, we love you. Last week we were with all 648 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: these families who lost love ones at the border, and 649 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: to a person, they just commend what you and Ben 650 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: have done here in real America's voice. You guys are 651 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: American heroes to them and I just want to pass 652 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: that along because we saw it all throughout the night 653 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: here as we were doing the first ever American Border rewards. 654 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: But thank you, thank you for what you do. There's 655 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot going on, and I think the first thing 656 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: is just a little bit of this happened just about 657 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: an hour ago. I believe there's been an the rest 658 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: of three border agents who were involved with the cartels 659 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: in human trafficking tell us which you've learned. 660 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is the collateral damage, Amanda John of the 661 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 7: Motan administration. You know, the enormous simplests coming in and 662 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 7: the agents are attempted just where the millions of millions 663 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 7: and dollars tell this was a profitable business. The names 664 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 7: are finally sal Monte thirty eight years of age, Ricardo 665 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 7: do Rodriguez thirty four year years of age, and Tidy 666 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 7: the Stefania can join a thirty one years of age. 667 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 7: These are the engines that they are arrested with the 668 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 7: charges of conspiracy or transportation and also conspiracy of illegal 669 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 7: trafficking of humans into the United States of America. The 670 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 7: most aggravating things about this, John it is that these 671 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 7: illegal aliens they paid on mounts and amounts of money 672 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 7: to cross on the back of a car smuggled. These 673 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 7: are people that they don't want to be identified to 674 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 7: put possibly potential terrorists, possibly potential people they are, you know, 675 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 7: they are violent, that they have a background of violence. 676 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 7: We don't know about these particular illegal alias that they 677 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 7: were let in under these three agents that were working 678 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 7: profoundly and sadly with the organized crime and now they 679 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 7: were arrested. And the other thing is that this is 680 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 7: what the Trump administration needs to deal with the interior corruption. 681 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 7: You know, this massive portition that it hasn't been you 682 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 7: know what everybody thought that it was going to be 683 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 7: immediately effective because of the judges and because. 684 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: Of all of this. 685 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 7: This is the other corruption that they need to deal with. 686 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 3: Also so important as with respect to the cartels that 687 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 3: had operational control of the border under Joe Biden. Nothing 688 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 3: like a money problem to create infighting and because the 689 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: border is shut down, because there is less being trafficked 690 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: across the border, they are certainly in dire straits when 691 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 3: it comes to finances. But there's some infighting between these cartels, right, 692 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: is that benefiting us? 693 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: No, it is not. 694 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 7: And you know one of the border cities that has 695 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 7: been now diagnosed as the most violent and insecure city 696 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 7: in the just recently the president of O Mexico named Tijuana, 697 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 7: Mexico the city that we are located the most violent 698 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 7: city with homicides. Yesterday was a human corpse that it 699 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 7: was found on a trash back and also a human 700 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 7: head that it was found on a lighting post with 701 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 7: both of them with cartel banners sent to the opposition cartel. 702 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 7: This it is being done because the human trafficking has 703 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 7: been completely shut down and the cartels have pivot back 704 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 7: into what they were before, that is the trafficking of 705 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 7: synthetic drugs, that is the interior war and the interior violence. 706 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 7: And since the Trump administration has taken over, this is 707 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 7: statistic that is extremely important, Amanda, seven hundred and fifty 708 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 7: eight laboratories has been dismantled in more than thirteen thousand 709 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 7: cartel distributor members have been arrested. If it wasn't for 710 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 7: the Trump administration, imagine the violence that it would have 711 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 7: been increased if Biden was president in the port will 712 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 7: be open. 713 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the poison that would be killing our 714 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: young adults as well. That's an amazing statistic. Oscar, you 715 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: and Ben are just legendary within this now work within 716 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: our audience. I love Law and Border. Every week you've 717 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: got a new documentary coming up. Tell us about it. 718 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 7: Four times, Darien with the Angels of the Jungle. These 719 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 7: are the four times that we have been in the 720 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 7: most dangerous place for migrants, that is called the Dairy 721 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 7: and Gap. No other journalist, no other network has done 722 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 7: this in the world. As Ben Berkwumb and myself, we 723 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 7: crossed this Daarian jungle, exposing ourselves to multiple difficulties and dangers. 724 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 7: You know, Ben and I we got sick with malaria, 725 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 7: also with denga, and also we were in the middle 726 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 7: of a crossfire with some delinquid bandits from the content 727 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 7: vent for cartel in the middle with these great guys 728 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 7: and these heroes from the Panamanian Border Agency. So this 729 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 7: documentary is going to come out in the next month 730 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 7: or so for everybody to watch, you know, Ben Berke, 731 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 7: Clumb and myself, we're going to be in it for 732 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 7: everybody to just keep you know, keep watching for this 733 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 7: Acamara coming out huge. 734 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: We will We'll make sure everybody knows about it. Oscar, 735 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: you do such amazing work. We are so lucky to 736 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 1: have you here. Can't wait to get our next update 737 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: and the watch next edition of Law on Border. 738 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 7: But thanks for joining us tonight, John Amandela Lows has 739 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 7: honored to be with you, guys. 740 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: Thank you for the innovation. We're honored by your great 741 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: reporting and your courage. All Right, folks, here we got 742 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: people a journalist. Youre worried about getting a paper cut. 743 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: These guys are getting dead gay fever Durgan, hilarious. That's 744 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,280 Speaker 1: what you call heroism. That's what you call great journalism. 745 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: That's so cool. All right, we're going to try to 746 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: take a quick commercial break. There was a big switch 747 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: today at Surgeon General. The original nominee poll to you naha, 748 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: make America healthy, Kennedy installed. We're going to get to 749 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: that for a whole lot more. I have to need messages. 750 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody. 751 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 3: A recent international study published in the American Journal of 752 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: Preventative Medicine has uncovered a troubling correlation higher consumption of 753 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 3: ultra process foods is significantly linked to increased risks of 754 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 3: early death. 755 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 2: Joining us now to. 756 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: Discuss this from Pure Health Research, doctor Holly Lucile. 757 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: Great to see, thanks for being here. 758 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 8: Of course, it's always great to be with you too. 759 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 8: Thank you. 760 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 761 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 3: So I look at a study like this connecting to 762 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 3: early death, and I think a lot of people obviously 763 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: associate ultra process foods with poor health. 764 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: That's just kind of logical and common sense. 765 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: But early death that takes it a lot further than 766 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 3: I think most people would suspect. 767 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 9: Yeah, this was really delited too in the pandemic, because 768 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 9: what's happening when people are eating ultra processed foods. 769 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 8: It's kind of a double whammy. 770 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 9: They're basically nutritionally valueless, right, so they're not getting the 771 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 9: nutrients needed to fuel their biochemistry, and the additives and 772 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 9: the chemicals are also causing a tremendous amount of inflammation. 773 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 8: Think about that side of kindstorm that. 774 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 9: We've always heard about during the pandemic, when somebody would 775 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 9: just get sick and then that inflammation would just flare 776 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 9: off like a huge firestorm within their body. 777 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 8: So this is what's happening, and yet premature death. It's 778 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 8: real wowally amazing. 779 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: Robert F. Kennedy has taken the government public bureaucracy by storm. 780 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: One of the things he's doing is helping us understand 781 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: that we made a bad trade in America. We traded 782 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: convenience process food and now we've become one of the 783 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: sickest nations because that convenience has now come back to 784 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: pay us back. How do we break this cycle? What 785 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: signs do you see on the horizon. Maybe Americans are 786 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: ready to go back to whole foods and healthy things 787 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: and the sort of supplements you put at pure health research. 788 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know doctor and. 789 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 9: Latin docre means to teach, and I think it is 790 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 9: all about educating. 791 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 8: It's what you two do every day. 792 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 9: It's like getting it out there and just helping people 793 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 9: understand what happened to our paletts. 794 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,799 Speaker 8: Right, we get trained to like not like broccoli very 795 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 8: early age, right, because everything is so ultra processed. 796 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 9: You know, think about fruptose corn syrup and how sugary 797 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 9: that is, and like if you don't get it, you 798 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 9: just want more and more of it. 799 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 8: So I think education is really important. 800 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 9: I think what's happening with the administration is super important. 801 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 9: That we're turning some of these things around, and we're 802 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 9: fighting the big companies, big pharma and big food. You know, 803 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 9: food is just as culpable because I think there are 804 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 9: some things that are added to make us want more 805 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 9: of their product, so we spend more money and we 806 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 9: get sicker and sicker, and that's not okay for this nation. 807 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: It's just not. 808 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Holly, President Trump has assembled an all star lineup 809 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: when it comes to focusing on a lot of these issues. 810 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 3: Food dies, the ultra process foods. You got Jay Bodicharia, 811 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 3: RFK Junior, Marty McCarey, and now doctor Casey means as 812 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 3: surgeon general, a lot of sunny days on the horizon. 813 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 8: Hey, yeah, that Casey means. 814 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 9: The pointment was, I was pretty excited about that. So 815 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 9: I think things are looking up and I think we're 816 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 9: only and here's my passionate about it. 817 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,959 Speaker 8: I think when people feel better, they do better. 818 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,439 Speaker 9: And I think we all need to be doing better 819 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 9: and better for each other each and every day in 820 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 9: these times. And I think when people feel better, that's 821 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 9: what they do, they do better. It's kind of like 822 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 9: they act locally with their family. They lead by example, 823 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 9: ripples out into the community, ripples out into more of 824 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 9: the nation, and that's what we all need. 825 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 8: So I'm pretty excited, just like you. 826 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: Are, doctor Holly. A lot of people I talk to 827 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: feel like allergies are getting worse and that the season 828 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: seems like more endless instead of sneezing just in April 829 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: and May were sneezing all year long. A lot of 830 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: concern that we've done a lot of damage to our 831 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: immune system which makes us more susceptible these sort of things. 832 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: What are some of the things you're seeing in the 833 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: research and some of the things that pure health research 834 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: puts on the table to help us deal with this 835 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 1: sort of inflammation that we deal with. 836 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's a great point, right. So it's always that 837 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 9: old adage. If you're pointing the finger out, let's say 838 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 9: an allergen like maybe dog dander or anything else, seasonal allergies, 839 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 9: things that are blooming in the spring, there's always three 840 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 9: fingers pointing back at you, right, So it's not necessarily Yeah, 841 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 9: sure we want to avoid known allergens, but why is 842 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 9: your system so rebbed up or overrebbed up and having 843 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 9: all of these symptoms, and it's exactly what we've been 844 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 9: talking about. It's that chronic low line inflammation that's happening 845 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 9: on a daily basis. That our music is like boom 846 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 9: boom boom boom boom boom boom, like a whack a 847 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 9: mole game, and so we've got to settle that all down. 848 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 9: And so pure health research. I think the other thing 849 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 9: I want to say about Pure health Research is when 850 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 9: it comes to good things in their product, what I 851 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 9: want to talk about is there are none of those 852 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 9: bad things that are in our food in their products, right, 853 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 9: So no commercial dies, no pharmaceutical excipients know anything like that, 854 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 9: which makes them. 855 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 8: A really transparent, quality driven company. 856 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 3: And you guys have a fantastic guarantee tell our viewers 857 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 3: about it. 858 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 9: Yeah kay, it really doesn't get any better than that. 859 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 9: So you have a whole year risk free, basically three. 860 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 8: Hundred and sixty five days. 861 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 9: If you don't like it, if it doesn't do what 862 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 9: it's plaining to do, or what have your what you 863 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 9: think it's going to do to send them an email, 864 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 9: send them a text or a call, and they're going 865 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 9: to get refund your money every penny you paid without 866 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 9: any questions. So great company, great products, transparency, quality, and 867 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 9: none of the bad. 868 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: Stuff before we let you go. 869 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 3: I know, the Fatty Liver formula is something that we've 870 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 3: had you on to talk about a lot. But what's 871 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: your other favorite formulas that Pure Health Research offers? 872 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 8: Okay, so the liver health formula. 873 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 9: I know we've exhausted that conversation, but I think the 874 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 9: liver health formula would be like you going toround the house, 875 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 9: grabbing all of your garbage and sitting outside. I think 876 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 9: the limp Support system would be the garbage people coming 877 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 9: and taking it away. Because if you've ever been in 878 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 9: New York City when there's an MTA or a you know, 879 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 9: a strike, right and the garbage just kind of what's 880 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 9: all over, I. 881 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 8: Mean, it just piles up on the sidewalk. That's what 882 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 8: happens if you don't have good limp flowing. 883 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 9: And so I think that liver Health formula and the 884 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 9: limp Support System go hand in hand. 885 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 8: It's one of plus one equals ten. 886 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's a great idea. 887 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: Doctor Holly Lucille from Pure Health Research, thank you so 888 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 3: much for being with us tonight and to our viewers, 889 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 3: if you were interested in any of the formulas that 890 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 3: doctor Holly mentioned, head over to pure health research dot 891 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 3: com and use the code just news. 892 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: For a fifty percent savings, huge savings. 893 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 3: And remember you have a year to try and you're 894 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 3: not going to find a better guarantee than that. 895 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 2: Go to pure health Research dot com and use the 896 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 2: code just News. We're going to take a break. 897 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 3: We've got a few more stories on the other side there. 898 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. A few more topics to get to. 899 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 3: And John, this is something from yesterday that I wanted 900 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 3: to get your take on President Trump saying he wants 901 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 3: to reopen and rebuild Alcatraz. Now, I'm trying to decide 902 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 3: if I want to take that at face value that 903 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,840 Speaker 3: he actually does want to do that, or if that 904 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 3: is just a part of his messaging trying to make 905 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: it resonate with criminals in this country that the lawless 906 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 3: phase in American history is over with this guy. 907 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's a little bit of everything right he likes. 908 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: It was a quiet Sunday night when he put this out. 909 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 1: He owned the oxygen for hours. The media lit it 910 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: up as exactly what Donald Trump does so well. He 911 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: plays the media so well. I wrote the story in 912 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: fact then the Sunday night because I was the only 913 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: one on the call at the time. Listen, I think 914 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: there's something he may very well do it because he's 915 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: the sort of guy that will just he likes to 916 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: build things. We start things, so as you get from 917 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: a museum to back to the inescapable President was is 918 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: probably something would be fond of doing. But it does 919 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: send a message you might want to get your day 920 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,439 Speaker 1: area out of the Washington, United States if you're legally 921 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: here now, because otherwise you're get to have one of 922 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: the most miserable places in the world. And I think 923 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: that messaging all the things that President Trump is doing, 924 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: there's a carrot and stick every day. We'll give you 925 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars flight and no harm if you come 926 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: leave legally now for trying to come back legally next time, 927 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: or hey, you might have it. Yeah, door one, door two. 928 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: And I think it's a little bit of political Monty 929 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: Hall with a very powerful message. And I think that's 930 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: why you're starting to see more people self deport and 931 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: while you're also starting to see the efforts to get 932 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 1: the really bad guys and gals off the street are accelerating, 933 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: all right, so. 934 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 2: You as a good Catholic. 935 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty five Popo conclave began, but it was 936 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 3: black smoke. 937 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 2: This time around. How many more days do you think 938 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 2: it'll be before we see white smoke. 939 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: It could be tomorrow, I think more likely Friday. You 940 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: see a couple of days. There's a lot to process. 941 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: It's a big decision they're making. They're not just picking 942 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: a successor, I think really putting a bet on the 943 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: future of what the direction of the church is and 944 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 1: there is it's at a crossroads. And you know, Francis 945 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: was really good at getting all these discussions to the 946 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: forefront of the mind and to the forefront of the dialogue, 947 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: but not necessarily making enough clarity about where the church 948 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: is going to be in the modern era on them. 949 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: And I think the next Poe's going to have to 950 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: do that, and which way that Pope goes will decide 951 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: whether the church keeps expanding or maybe it begins contracting. 952 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of concern in the American Catholic Church 953 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: about France's lack of clarity, and we hear it from 954 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: Frank Pavona and others. But it's a very real issue. 955 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: And those cardinals, no matter where they come from, they 956 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: know about this, they know it, They've heard it well. 957 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 3: And quite serendipitous timing with respect to your story and 958 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: about Latin mass attending Catholics, because those are exactly the 959 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 3: type of people, the people who are targeted by the 960 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 3: Biden administration, who I think do want to see a 961 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 3: new direction for the They wanted something more evocative of 962 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: maybe John Paul. 963 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 1: There's a whole bunch of you young people that are 964 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: interested in going back to the most Byzantine and Catholic 965 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: right Latin right Catholic masses. And why would we disenfranchise 966 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: people on a journey to faith. I mean, and I 967 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: don't think that was Francis's intention, but it's certainly been 968 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: interpreted that way. The next Bok can bring some clarity 969 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: to that. 970 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 3: I think, all right, let's shift to India and Pakistan. 971 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 3: This is this is a situation that has been percolating. 972 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 3: You know how error strikes. How do you think Pakistan 973 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 3: is going to respond? 974 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: I think cooler has it will prevail. I think the 975 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: president is and his team have been deeply involved in 976 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: diplomacy on this in the last couple of days, and 977 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: I think a major diplomatic efforts there to keep this 978 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: from escalating. It's always a tinder drive force between those two. 979 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: Cashmir is always the flashpoint, and you know they're both 980 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: nuclear arms, so things get really concerning quickly when you 981 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: realize the escalation. Thus far, they've been able to de 982 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,800 Speaker 1: escape for the last twenty four hours. That's a good sign. 983 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: And President Trump's team is on it. I think there's 984 00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot of foreign policy stuff. I think the President 985 00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: is a couple of days away from making a decision 986 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: about whether the stay in or drop out on Russia. 987 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: I think we could have an India or some other 988 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: big trade deal on Friday, and then next week I 989 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: think we could have some Abraham Acre two point zero 990 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: deals announced or frameworks announced. The foreign policy stuff, which 991 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: is we've been doing all this domestic policy, but there's 992 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: big things happening as forn policy front. 993 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 994 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: And on the other side of the country. I know 995 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 3: sometimes it feels like a foreign country, but California. 996 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 2: Down to poss Maybe President's Trump listen. 997 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that Hollywood does not want Donald Trump's help. 998 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 2: However, I do believe they need it. 999 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 3: You look at the number of days in production in 1000 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four compared to say twenty fourteen, and production 1001 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 3: has not only moved overseas, but just to other states 1002 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 3: in the country that offer more tax incentives. 1003 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: They have crushed. 1004 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: Canada, Georgia. I mean, there's so many movies being made 1005 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,879 Speaker 1: in places other than Hollywood because California is just it's 1006 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: also what's happening with factories and distributors and manufacturers. California 1007 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: is not going to get the message. But here's one 1008 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: thing that President Trump will be doing for Hollywood. I 1009 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: think that could be big pea protection with China and India, 1010 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: two of the biggest thefts of our great Hollywood and 1011 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: entertainment intellectual property. And I think these trade deals that 1012 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 1: he's doing will make some inroads on that, and that'll 1013 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: be good for a Hollywood that nomally doesn't give President 1014 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: Trump any credit whatsoever. 1015 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they might be forced to, especially if they 1016 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 3: if President Trump is able to bring the industry back 1017 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: to Hollywood. I can't tell you when I lived in 1018 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 3: La how many people I talked to Back when I was. 1019 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 2: A singing server at a restaurant. 1020 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 3: A lot of tours came into that restaurant and they 1021 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 3: would always say, we thought Hollywood was going to be so. 1022 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: Beautiful and glitzy and glamorous, and it just isn't. They've 1023 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 2: absolutely crushed it with you. 1024 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: Reminded me you were singing server, We're going to give 1025 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: you a sing somethime on the show. How about come on, folks, 1026 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: get on social media, says I'm to sing her way 1027 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: out of a show. 1028 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 2: Okay, well that's a. 1029 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,920 Speaker 3: Good excuse for me to log off of social media 1030 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 3: for the next week. Four hour Oh everybody, thanks so 1031 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,399 Speaker 3: much for being with us today. 1032 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 2: We're going to be back here at six fume Eastern. 1033 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 2: Have a wonderful even