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Speaker 2: And Kenny Florian podcast, John Annak and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 6: The next time.

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Speaker 2: Your hosts, John Annik and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you'd be so kind as to accept our

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Speaker 7: apologies for bringing you this pay per view recap forty

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Speaker 7: eight hours late, we'd appreciate that. It's Wednesday, November nineteenth,

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, Episode five seventy six. I think of

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Speaker 7: the antikid Florian podcast presented by DraftKings DraftKings, the crown

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Speaker 7: is yours. I mean, Kenny, you know I'm a soldier

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Speaker 7: in some respects right for the first time, I think

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Speaker 7: in the eleven year history of the weekly anakind Florian podcast,

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Speaker 7: sometimes bi weekly, I had to postpone the show on Monday,

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Speaker 7: couldn't prep. I was in bed for nineteen hours. I

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Speaker 7: think my body just shut down after a pretty intense

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Speaker 7: work week, and here we are forty eight hours later.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's when I know it's bad. If John

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Speaker 8: Anik is canceling a show or postponing a shell that's

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Speaker 8: how I know it's bad, but there's something been going

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Speaker 8: wrong going around.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 8: My whole fing family had this kind of cold flu

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Speaker 8: type deal and it wiped them out. Somehow I was

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Speaker 8: able to avoid it. But yeah, man, I'm I'm glad

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Speaker 8: you're better and I'm glad we're back.

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Speaker 9: Well, thanks buddy.

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Speaker 7: So when people have asked me over the years, like

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Speaker 7: what do you do if you're sick, calling in sick

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Speaker 7: is not an option. So in my full time job,

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Speaker 7: it's just not an option. So what did I do

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Speaker 7: at UFC two ninety five when maybe I felt well,

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Speaker 7: maybe not even as bad as I did. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I couldn't even face civilization the other day. I couldn't

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Speaker 7: fucking press the show. But UFC two ninety five, I

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Speaker 7: was sick. I slept four hours on show day and

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Speaker 7: I took three tile and all and it worked miracles

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Speaker 7: and got me through uh Adasania and Pareta at Madison

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Speaker 7: Square Garden. But I just couldn't power through, and Cody saying,

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Speaker 7: I do actually think it's the first time you've banged

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Speaker 7: out day up. So sorry, we have a lot to

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Speaker 7: we apologize. Now, Ken Flow was getting some CPI stem cells,

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Speaker 7: if I'm not mistaken, and his back and in his knee.

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Speaker 7: This Kenny Florian, former three time UFC title challenger, has

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Speaker 7: an exceedingly high threshold in terms of his pain tolerance. Kenny,

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Speaker 7: what can you tell us about the procedures that you

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Speaker 7: Islam Maha chef one fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Let's go now.

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Speaker 8: I yeah, So I got my back done. I got

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Speaker 7: Yeah, got a few months, a few months recovery and

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Speaker 7: thanks for taking care of our boy, Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 9: Then yeah, Tijuana, not that Floriana if you're.

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Speaker 8: No, it's a great restaurant. By the way, everyone on Tijuana.

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Speaker 8: It's a cool place, dude.

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Speaker 7: The kemflow just mispronounced Tijuana guys Tian So yeah, see

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Speaker 9: So how did I learn that?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 9: How do you think I learned that.

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Speaker 7: It was Tijuana Domina Cruz No by mispronouncing it on

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Speaker 7: a UFC telecase Brandon Moreno fight and a Mexican was like, hey, Dick,

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Speaker 7: fuck UFC play by play guy. There aren't three. There are,

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Speaker 7: however many It's not ti Iowana with four syllables. It's three.

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Speaker 9: You know how to pronounce the fiftieth state, Kenny.

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Speaker 1: The fiftieth state, like Alaska.

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Speaker 7: The forty ninth. I guess sorry, are you?

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Speaker 1: What is the what is o? Hawaii? Like Hawaii?

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Speaker 7: Exactly So if you ever hear a Hawaiian like our

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Speaker 7: good friend Cassandra Clark, it's uh, it's Hawaii.

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Speaker 7: And so went back all away fights, you won't hear

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Speaker 7: All right, So thanks everybody for being with us, and

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Speaker 7: it is all systems go. UFC three twenty two, Ray

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Speaker 7: Longo coming up here in about twenty five minutes. We

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Speaker 7: certainly have some picks on the UFC Fight Night Sai

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Speaker 7: former UFC Welterway champion Billow Remember the name of Live

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Speaker 7: by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila

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Speaker 7: that invented tequila. Y'all must have forgot. Maybe the oddsmakers

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Speaker 7: did not who the pound for pound King and Mixed

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Speaker 7: on Islami Kashev, and you are looking live at the

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Speaker 7: best fighter in the world, maybe the greatest of all time.

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Speaker 7: And as I was crafting the pay per view open

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Speaker 7: I'm concerned, he really is sort of a double champ.

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Speaker 7: You know, never lost his lightweight belt, so he's fining

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Speaker 7: that alluded Kamara Usman Kenny against Leon Edwards Anderson Silva's

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Speaker 7: didn't exist on these scorecards. It's Islamikashev and knew, undisputed

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Speaker 7: UFC Weltchweight Champion, unanimous decision fifty to forty five times three.

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Speaker 7: Absolute masterclass by the new welterweight kit.

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Speaker 8: I was absolutely blown away by the great start that

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Speaker 8: And I think Jack didn't come into the right mindset

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Speaker 8: and I saw a tighter, more emotional Jack delamand Alena,

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Speaker 1: And this is why experience matters.

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Speaker 8: Islam's been through this, He's been through countless championship fights,

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Speaker 1: And I think he absolutely is the pound for pound king.

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Speaker 7: You know, Jack's fight with Blad Muhammad was close. We

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Speaker 9: And man is he good?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 7: You know that trip's coming. You can't stop it in

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Speaker 8: I think calling him the pound for pound, king is appropriate.

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Speaker 8: Why because the king is able to control everything in

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Speaker 8: its sphere, and that's the difference. When you can control

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Speaker 8: don't allow the other person to play. When you have

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Speaker 8: Habim Marimaga Metov or Islam Maha Shift, you never allow

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Speaker 8: And that's really what it comes down to. I think

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Speaker 8: like you said, it is similar to a Wayne Gretzky.

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Speaker 8: You don't stop Wayne Gretzky. You only hope to contain him.

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Speaker 8: That's kind of like you know what it was for

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Speaker 8: Islam and and it's frustrating because either you stay on

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Speaker 7: So it was just brilliant on all levels. I feel

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Speaker 8: I think he will be back and will be better

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Speaker 9: It's amazing.

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Speaker 8: And this is and these aren't necessarily the rules, John,

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Speaker 8: Morab dwalash Vili's, the the habib Ramaga Metaf, the Islamhashas.

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Speaker 7: also just say, Kenny, in terms of mixed martial arts, right,

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 9: How about you?

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Speaker 7: If you end around and you're on top of somebody

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Speaker 9: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: This is mixed fucking martial arts. It's advantaged striker in

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 8: The other norm I would say is the more exciting

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Speaker 8: When you're talking about title fights, it's a different, different

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Speaker 7: But just you know he's a farmer too. I mean,

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Speaker 7: knowing that had he done that game plan, he would

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Speaker 7: still be champ. No, no, you're missing the point. With

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Speaker 1: You can't just do that.

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Speaker 7: This is Islam Kashev. He's one of one, you know,

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Speaker 8: Ken flap, crazy crazy, I mean again and again we

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Speaker 8: every shot when he did land clean, Brady wanted nothing to.

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Speaker 1: Do with it. He wasn't able to get to the clinch.

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Speaker 8: He got nothing done against Morales, and Morales got yet

436
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Speaker 8: another stoppage before the time was up. And this this

437
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 8: guy something special, man. I think he's something special athletically

438
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Speaker 8: that cannot be denied. But now that he's putting together

439
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 8: on like with his MMA skills, he's gonna be tough

440
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Speaker 8: to beat.

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Speaker 7: Fight begins, right, And this dude who looks like Francis

442
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 7: fucking i Ghanu right like, lowers his level and Sean

443
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 7: looks two divisions small dude.

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Speaker 9: Sean looked Brady, dude. And I'm just like, holy shit,

445
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Speaker 9: you know.

446
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Speaker 7: And I had done a Q and A the day

447
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Speaker 7: prior with kamar Usman and Dustin Poorier, and I'm listening

448
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 7: to them superl lively talk about just Morales being big

449
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 7: and athletic. And if you don't know the history of

450
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 7: this Ecuadorian. Both his parents are judo black belts. His

451
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Speaker 7: mom is an international judo referee. She was in the

452
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Speaker 7: stands right born into this doesn't even begin to describe it.

453
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Speaker 7: When he showed up to Raoul RBS's Jim and Tijuana,

454
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 7: he was a wrestler, right and I just think for him,

455
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Speaker 7: you know, he hasn't been the most active guy. Yeah,

456
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Speaker 7: and despite all of the hype, he hasn't competed all

457
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Speaker 7: that often. I think there maybe have been some injuries

458
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Speaker 7: and a few different circumstances, but man, did he come

459
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Speaker 7: to play.

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Speaker 9: I think he might be next.

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Speaker 8: Well, i'll tell you what, He's someone that the UFC

462
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Speaker 8: is going to love. Every time he shows up. He's

463
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 8: not looking to just win rounds. He's looking to take

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Speaker 8: your head off.

465
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Speaker 7: So he's exciting, carries a ton of natural power.

466
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Speaker 1: And he hasn't been challenged. He hasn't been challenging.

467
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Speaker 8: He fought Burns and Brady the last couple of fights,

468
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 8: like two stylistic matchups that you would say, Okay, well

469
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Speaker 8: this is We're gonna find out how good he really is.

470
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe he's just that good.

471
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Speaker 7: So this welterweight division is just so fascinating, and I

472
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Speaker 7: might as well just inject Carlos Protest his name into

473
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Speaker 7: the conversation. Yeah, so he is becoming a superstar, merchandise

474
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 7: flying off the shelves. He's your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.

475
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Speaker 7: He is the certifiable knockout artist in this division. And

476
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Speaker 7: my thesis statement going into this fight with Leon Edwards,

477
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Speaker 7: whom I hold in such high regard, was yes, that

478
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Speaker 7: Leon was probably going to have to grapple. Now, my

479
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 7: thesis statement, Kenny, is that other than Islami Kashev, there's

480
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Speaker 7: not a welterweight in this division that can last twenty

481
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Speaker 7: five minutes with Carlos Protest. Now, some people will scoff

482
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Speaker 7: at that, maybe say what about Michael Morales. I agree,

483
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Speaker 7: Michael Morales versus Carlos Protest one of the best fights

484
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Speaker 7: we could put together, But you're not gonna kill one

485
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 7: of those birds right right now. Both guys tracking to

486
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Speaker 7: fight Islami Kashev. But I feel, Kenny, I felt like

487
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Speaker 7: one thing working in Leon Edwards's favor was that the

488
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Speaker 7: fight was only fifteen minutes. I just think when you

489
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Speaker 7: talk about the combat sports experience, the confidence, the accuracy,

490
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Speaker 7: the precision, the striking ability, the anti grappling, the team

491
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 7: he trains with, the brain, the mentality, the cigarettes, the

492
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Speaker 7: nicotine as an additive in his life and not a subtraction.

493
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Speaker 7: People totally missing the beat on that. I don't think

494
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Speaker 7: there's a welchweight on the world other than Islamakashe that

495
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 7: can hold up under his power for twenty five minutes.

496
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Speaker 1: He's an absolute killer, man. I love the gimmick.

497
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Speaker 8: He kind of just like how he dresses, how he

498
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Speaker 8: you know, acts, you know, even what he's doing outside

499
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Speaker 8: the cage.

500
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Speaker 1: You know, he's very charitable guy. I don't know, I

501
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: just love the whole thing.

502
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Speaker 6: Man.

503
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Speaker 8: This guy is an absolute killer. Another guy who's out

504
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 8: to knock you out. He's not out there to just

505
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 8: win rounds. He understands the value of being exciting in

506
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 8: the UFC. He understands that there is this small window

507
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 8: of opportunity that you need to take advantage of. He

508
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 8: is taking advantage of it fully and also learning from

509
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 8: his mistakes and improving as a martial artist. It seems

510
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 8: like he's more motivated than ever and we're seeing the

511
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Speaker 8: results because of it.

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Speaker 1: Beating a guy like Leon Edwards on the feet, knocking

513
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Speaker 1: him out for the very first time in that fashion,

514
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: says a whole lot. And what's crazy about one hundred

515
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: and seventy pound division? We almost forgot about shof cut

516
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: Rock Monovs. So this division is it's the best it's

517
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: ever been, There's no question about that. There's so many guys,

518
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: you know, kamaraw Uzman, former champion, who looked great in

519
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: his last fight. Like this division is stacked.

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Speaker 8: But we're talking about these exciting guys right now, like

521
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 8: Protest and Morales for a reason. But it's a tall

522
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Speaker 8: mountain to climb against someone like Mahasha for sure.

523
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Speaker 7: No, I mean, there's so much to discuss, right we

524
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 7: could live in the weltsweight division with the whole show.

525
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 7: Like even talking about Sean Brady, like where does he

526
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 7: go from here? You know, right, it's just crazy the

527
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,719
Speaker 7: situation right now. And I know he in the shadow.

528
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 7: Gary went twenty five minutes with Carlos Protest, but that

529
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 7: figures to be a different proposition moving forward, just given

530
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Speaker 7: the accrual of that experience and everything else. And Carlos

531
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Speaker 7: Protest took the long road, right, Like when Kenny talks

532
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Speaker 7: about Jack Dela Mattealana being on the wrong end of

533
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Speaker 7: the championship experience equation. It's also the combat sports experience equation, right,

534
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Speaker 7: Like Jack La Madelena rugby player transitions to martial arts.

535
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Speaker 9: He's an outstanding athlete. He had won eighteen fights in

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Speaker 9: a row.

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Speaker 7: I think going in here, some of that maybe speaks

538
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 7: to being relatively untested. You know, split decision went over

539
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 7: Basil Jfez. You know, some people didn't think that he

540
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 7: beat Kevin Holland, right, so, and the the you know

541
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Speaker 7: and the Balah Muhammed fight. You know, he took a

542
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Speaker 7: lot of damage and it was a close fight, you

543
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: know what I mean, juxtaposed against Carlos Protests over one

544
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 7: hundred combat sports events in his life, over one hundred fights. Kenny,

545
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Speaker 7: this was I think his thirtieth pro MMA fight, right,

546
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Speaker 7: so maybe thirty percent more pro MMA experience than Jack

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Speaker 7: Dela Madelena, you know, had to come through Dana White's

548
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Speaker 7: Contender series. I'm asking him in the fighter meeting, you know,

549
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 7: like how did that happen? And you know he going

550
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Speaker 7: in he wanted to fight in Rio against Michael Venom Page,

551
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Speaker 7: who nobody wants to fight, right, you know, like but

552
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Speaker 9: You're a superstar now.

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Speaker 7: And it's like he's almost like a victim of his

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Speaker 7: when you think about a lot of these welterweights watching

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Speaker 7: how things play out, certainly some of them are rooting

592
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Speaker 7: for Jack Deela Mattalanta to defend the title and then

593
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Speaker 7: the Makashev chapters closed. Right, all of them have a

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Speaker 7: rooting interest as far as what is happening. Right, If

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00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 7: you're Carlos Protest, you do that to Leon Edwards, right,

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Speaker 7: the number two rank contender, and you're thinking this.

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Speaker 9: Is less than I did you know what I mean?

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Speaker 7: So we have a huge welterweight fight this weekend, Ian

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Speaker 7: the Shadowgary and the number two rank contender Bala Muhammad.

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Speaker 7: I believe yeah, So Jack Dela Madeline is now the

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 7: number one rank contender. See, we do the show later

604
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Speaker 7: in the week due to host illness, and we get

605
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Speaker 7: these updated rankings can flow. Sean Brady dips down to

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Speaker 7: number seven. It's like, what do you do if you're

607
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 7: Sean Brickhouse Brady. Devote your whole fucking life to this.

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 7: Still a lot of opportunities to make money, but you know,

609
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 7: two year championship setback can flow for Sean Brady. To

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Speaker 7: be sure, you're not gonna argue with me on that.

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Speaker 7: Given all these contenders, right, and Iliotoputia wants to fight

612
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Speaker 7: for this championship, and he's unsigned for a lightweight title defense.

613
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 7: So I'm gonna pass the baton to you now in

614
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 7: terms of protest or morales or what you would do next,

615
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Speaker 7: And maybe you want to inject Poti his name into

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Speaker 7: the equation, you know, one breath, I would say to you,

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Speaker 7: Topotia Makashev is the biggest fight we can put together.

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Speaker 7: But what I said on the ESPN Plus post show

619
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Speaker 7: is that it would be promotional malpractice to make that

620
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Speaker 7: fight with the bevy of welterweight contenders at your dispose.

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Speaker 8: Okay, first you got you know how I feel about

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Speaker 8: till Pooria. I think he's the most skilled fighter in

623
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Speaker 8: the game right now. I think he's the most skilled

624
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Speaker 8: fighter ever that we've seen. He does not want to

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Speaker 8: fight is La Mahaschef at one seventy. I would highly

626
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Speaker 8: recommend against that. I don't think he wants any part

627
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Speaker 8: at one seventy. If he's going to fight him, you

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Speaker 8: say at one fifty five, my friend, I don't think

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Speaker 8: you want to fight Mahaschef at one seventy. I think

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Speaker 8: that's an easy win for Mahashev. Maybe not easy, but

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Speaker 8: I think Mahaschef would probably dominate. I think his size,

632
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Speaker 8: his wrestling would be a little bit too much for Tillporia, who.

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Speaker 1: Might be a little small for one fifty five.

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Speaker 8: Right, So, all right now, in regards to you know

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Speaker 8: who's going to get that next shot, it's it's gonna

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Speaker 8: come down to business, right It's going to come down

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Speaker 8: to who is the biggest name. I think while Morales

638
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Speaker 8: is ranked number three, in Protese is number five right now,

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Speaker 8: I would say Protess is probably the bigger star right now.

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Speaker 1: I would put Protest ahead of them.

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Speaker 8: All of that I think doesn't matter depending on what

642
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Speaker 8: happens this weekend between the Lall and an Ian Mishad o'cary,

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Speaker 8: I think the winner of that, assuming especially if it's

644
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Speaker 8: an exciting win, I think they'll probably skip ahead. So

645
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Speaker 8: but you know, if it's maybe a close decision win

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00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 8: for one of those guys, maybe Protest gets that next shot.

647
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: I think he would warrant it.

648
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 7: So perhaps Palla Muhamad would need two wins given the

649
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 7: bevy of contenders. Ian Maschado Gary were he'd win with

650
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 7: style points against Muhammad certainly, I think as the number

651
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 7: then two ranked contender. He might have the inside track,

652
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 7: but this is the issue, right, that's why, you know,

653
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 7: Like I mean, hey, Joe Ann Calderwood had a tie

654
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 7: fight sign against Valentina Chefchenko's the one time Chefchenko pulled out, Right,

655
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 7: It's not there until it actually happens. And if you're

656
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 7: I Mashado Gary, right, you were not looking for Carlos

657
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 7: Protests and Michael Morales to both do that on pay

658
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 7: per view, Like that's not ideal for Ian Maschado Gary's

659
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 7: title shot and contendership in candidacy. It's just not I

660
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 7: think Michael Morales is actually the guy who has the

661
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 7: inside track right now, in part because Carlos Protests would

662
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 7: just say to Hunter and Dana on the phone, like

663
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 7: I understand, I'll just keep knocking guys out right, you know, honestly,

664
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 7: Like I just think that he's on such a high

665
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 7: self believing level right now, you know. But I understand

666
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 7: why you say protest and theory. I just believe Dana

667
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 7: acknowledged Morales Brady as an eliminator during fight week, if

668
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 7: I'm not mistaken, and then Morales did that, So I

669
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 7: actually think the Ecuadoria Morales might be next.

670
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 8: That's a good point because Brady was in that situation

671
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 8: where if he won and did it impressively, that he

672
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 8: would have got that next shot, but he was taken

673
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 8: out by this Morales guy.

674
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, maybe skip the line because of it.

675
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 7: All Right, So I'm gonna try to not get to

676
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 7: the goat conversation when it comes to the women's fight

677
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 7: game and just live in Valentina Chefchenko's dominance over jeongwe Lee.

678
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 7: But I know I'm not gonna be able to help

679
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 7: myself eventually. Valentina Chefchenko over jeongwe Lee fifty to forty

680
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 7: five by unanimous decision. And what this woman has done

681
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 7: now in beating Alexa Grosso and Mono Fire and now

682
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 7: the upcoming jeongwe Lee in this manner bro based upon

683
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 7: everything she's done as a martial artist since two thousand

684
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 7: and three. I don't know if I need to get

685
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 7: a Chevchenko tattoo to sort of acknowledge her body of work,

686
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 7: but all hail Valentina Chevchenko. I need room on my

687
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 7: mount Rushmore man or woman for one of the truly

688
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 7: greatest of all time. Hopefully she's getting her flowers.

689
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 8: Men, when you see this level of consistency, especially defending

690
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 8: the belt. After a while, we've seen so many champions

691
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 8: either because of wear and tear, mental stress, fame, money.

692
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 8: Eventually that consistency goes away, and maybe their willingness to

693
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 8: want to train, that passion for training sometimes goes away

694
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 8: or oftentimes goes away, no matter the combat sport. I've

695
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 8: been waiting for that time for Chef Chenko hasn't happened.

696
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 8: In fact, I'm seeing improvements consistently. She still gets up

697
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 8: for these fights, you know, like even the way that

698
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 8: she talks about her opponents, like you could see she

699
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 8: loves to fight, She loves to compete, the way that

700
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 8: she spars everything, she is something special, man, and she's

701
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 8: gonna hold onto that belt for as long as she

702
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 8: wants that period. There's no other competition, right. Really, she

703
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 8: is absolutely spectacular and winning in that fashion.

704
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: I mean unreal.

705
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I went from thinking about Natalia Silva

706
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 7: to not respectfully thinking about her at all, thinking about

707
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 7: Aaron Blanchfield and thinking, just what is she thinking? She's

708
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 7: not going anywhere, That's the issue, right, Like you gotter

709
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 7: hope that she goes to thirty five because she's gonna

710
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 7: stick the fuck around because this is what she loves

711
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 7: to do. And it was interesting talking to bow Nickel,

712
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 7: by the way, he just loves fighting, right. I asked

713
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 7: him about Anthony Kassar, his former roommate, his best friend,

714
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: his Penn State wrestling teammates, still UFC cornerman, who barked

715
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 7: upon his old mixed martial arts career and is now

716
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 7: doing real estate. And but was sort of saying, it's

717
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 7: a thoughtful question because like it makes me feel so

718
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 7: convicted in knowing that I'm doing exactly what I was

719
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 7: meant to be, doing what I want to do. I

720
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 7: love fighting, you know, and he maybe didn't love fighting.

721
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 7: She has such an competitive nature for this stuff at

722
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 7: this stage of her life that, yeah, unless it's going

723
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 7: to be some of these chronic injuries that she twice

724
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 7: referenced after this fight, you know, but no mother time

725
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 7: is gonna stop her. And yeah, I mean there's some

726
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 7: stuff on Jean Way Lee that I will get to.

727
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 7: But Kenny, in terms of Valentina Chevchenko and her status

728
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 7: as like the greatest woman to ever do it, like

729
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 7: I do feel like you kind of have to assess

730
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 7: the men's game and the women's game differently. You know,

731
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 7: it's not integrating the women's game. I would almost say

732
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 7: to you, you know, based upon the fact that she

733
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 7: twice fought Amanda Nunez. One of those was super competitive

734
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 7: and people thought she won. Both of those were at

735
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 7: one hundred and thirty five pounds, and then the relative

736
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 7: you know, EBB and flowed to this part of Valentina's career,

737
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 7: the Grosso trilogy and where she's at right now. Certainly,

738
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 7: if Amanda Nunez were to come back for me and

739
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 7: do some spectacular things against Kayla, but to have stayed

740
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 7: the course after Amanda left the game, I mean, you

741
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 7: can't argue there's no argument against Valentine and Amanda are

742
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 7: on the same fucking level as far I don't want

743
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 7: to hear any argument for noon as over chev Chenko.

744
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 7: They are on the same level. And she's the goat. Like,

745
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 7: the only emojis that should be on her Instagram page

746
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 7: for comments is the fucking goat emoji.

747
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, and she has layers to her game now, John,

748
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 8: where maybe she didn't have that several years ago. You know,

749
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 8: even maybe as just a few years ago, you know,

750
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 8: she would make certain mistakes on the ground. Maybe she

751
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 8: didn't know how to wrestle so well, now she really

752
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 8: knows how to wrestle, she knows how to control, she

753
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 8: knows how to stay in the proper position and all

754
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 8: that stuff. So yeah, I mean Natalia Silva, I think

755
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 8: is an interesting challenge because of her tremendous striking. I

756
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 8: haven't really seen too many female strikers like Natalia Silva.

757
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 8: I think she absolutely is special. But can't she stop

758
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 8: the takedowns of Valentina Schifchenko.

759
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think so.

760
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 8: And this is what makes it so difficult when you

761
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 8: are that complicated of a problem like a Valentina Shifchenko.

762
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: And you have accumulated all this experience.

763
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 8: I just don't see anybody taking that belt from her

764
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 8: unless she decides to just retire. And I think that's

765
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 8: that's kind of a fighter's best hope right now in

766
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 8: that division is like Chefcheko, please retire, Please give give

767
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 8: someone else a chance.

768
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 9: You know, that's it. Seventeen time.

769
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 7: Muy Thai and K one world champion, nine time international

770
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 7: Muay Thai champion, and now looking like a Dogistani wrestler

771
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 7: at this stage of her career. When you look at

772
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 7: like the foot placement and every little nuance when she

773
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 7: has side control and bro it is insane and right,

774
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 7: Obviously some of that is fighting on instinct, but you're

775
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 7: talking about Valentine's evolution, right, which is why I am

776
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 7: just totally in awe.

777
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy.

778
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 8: That level of competitiveness, It's on that level of a

779
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 8: Michael Jordan where she's like, she takes it personal if

780
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 8: you are trying to fight her and take her belt.

781
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 8: And I love that Peru's own, John, Peru's own, dude.

782
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna claim her for.

783
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 7: So who knows if she will eventually, you know, move

784
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 7: up to one hundred and thirty five pounds in fight

785
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 7: there Again, it seems like inevitably that would happen. I

786
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 7: think she said, I forget what she called Kayla Harrison,

787
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 7: like kay Harris or something, but you did mention the

788
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 7: name Kayla Harrison. And you know, every time Kayla Harrison's

789
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 7: name is brought up, I'm sort of thinking, like, I

790
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,439
Speaker 7: don't want to see this woman cut to thirty five

791
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 7: more than like twice. More So, as we talk about

792
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 7: all these fights for Kayla, it's hard for me to

793
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 7: wrap my head around that. Contributing to longevity and life

794
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 7: for Kayla. But it's absolutely remarkable what Valentina Chipchenko has accomplished.

795
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 7: And whether it's Blanchefield or Natalia Silver or move up

796
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 7: to thirty five, whatever it is, her appetite for improvement

797
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 7: is crazy. This training camp took her to Thailand, Morocco,

798
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 7: El Paso, Texas, Vegas, finished up her camp in New

799
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 7: Jersey and wow, you saw the way she gave the

800
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 7: belt to Pablo Fetatab. I think I've mispronounced his name

801
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 7: for twenty years now. This was her thirteenth straight title

802
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 7: fight Kenny nineteenth UFC appearance. She has now won eleven

803
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 7: championship fights in the UFC. I mean some other things

804
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 7: I got on here, you know, choosing correct tactics in

805
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 7: fight stoicism. She's a total freak fight iq off the charts.

806
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 7: I was watching videos her from two thousand and three

807
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 7: talking about sparring you know, time man and giving them

808
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 7: more than they could possibly handle. And now twenty three

809
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 7: years later, it's crazy. It's crazy. I mean we talk

810
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 7: about Morab being needed to study for science.

811
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 9: She is like yeah, everything.

812
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 7: I mean, have your daughters just do a school project

813
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 7: on Valentina fucking shiv Shanko out of Kyrghyzstan.

814
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: She's a beast man, She's an absolute beast.

815
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 7: We love you, Valentina. Ben was antonis sixteen seconds to

816
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 7: get Benny daryushaut of there, so Dar you missus wait

817
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 7: for this second time in his UFC career, and that

818
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 7: certainly opens up some kind of conversation. But ben wasant

819
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 7: denis former French Special Forces operative on a seek and

820
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 7: destroy mission, has a head coach and Nicholas Ott, who's

821
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 7: also pushing buttons for nos Ordini mob Bob, and I'm

822
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 7: not trying to get ahead of myself, but seemingly that's

823
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 7: what BSD needed, and I do think he's gonna fight

824
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 7: for the belt at the very least before all sudden done.

825
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 8: Man, what a crazy performance, what a crazy fight whole

826
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 8: it lasted all sixteen seconds of it wasn't But yeah,

827
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 8: that was not a good sign. When I saw that Benil, Misswaight,

828
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 8: I was like, oh gosh, this is not good.

829
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: This is probably gonna be another one that I got wrong.

830
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: And yeah, it was. Ben was Adonis was not gonna

831
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: go away easily. I knew that.

832
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 8: We also know that, you know Benil's chin has been

833
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 8: tested many times before and as of late, hasn't always

834
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 8: passed the test. And but Ben was Adoni is a

835
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 8: tremendous grappler, and I thought, you know, he would try

836
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 8: to beat Benil with his grappling, and I thought, well,

837
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 8: Benil is the better grappler jujitsu black belt.

838
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: I think this should be good.

839
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 8: He's faced other guys who have been trying to take

840
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 8: him down before, like Gamrot, but Ben wasson Denis He's

841
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 8: built different.

842
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: He landed a shot on the perfect spot of the

843
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: head and that was it.

844
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 8: It was all over for Banil, unfortunately. And Banil is

845
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 8: such a nice guy man, but seeing him go face down,

846
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 8: I was like, ah, how much longer is he going

847
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 8: to do this?

848
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 6: You know?

849
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 9: Right?

850
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 8: But Santini is h He's an absolute beast man. Landed

851
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 8: that perfect shot at the right time and that's it.

852
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 8: You do not want to just trade in the pocket

853
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 8: with someone like like Ben was Antony.

854
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: He might not be the.

855
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 7: Most technical guy, the most refined striker in the world,

856
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 7: but the guy's got power and he will not stop

857
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 7: until you are put down. Yeah, I mean perhaps, and

858
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 7: again I'm not the business of retiring fighters, but perhaps

859
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Speaker 7: Banil dark Use. I think thirty six asked the UFC

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Speaker 7: for one more, but yeah, it doesn't seem as though

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Speaker 7: his chin is able to hold up against some of

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Speaker 7: these powerful lightweights. He looked out standing against Anato Moykano, right,

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Speaker 7: and you want to give him the benefit of any

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Speaker 7: NICHOLASZTT really can't be lost in all of this because

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Speaker 7: a row. You know, when I think about guys who

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Speaker 7: Sorry I was uh yeah, I had a banging sick

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Speaker 7: for the first time in eleven years on Monday. I

917
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Speaker 7: couldn't do the show.

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Speaker 6: Unacceptable.

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Speaker 7: Well that's fine. You were nicer over text message, but

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Speaker 7: now you're showing up a quarter of an hour late.

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Speaker 7: Did you forget or it just it's a live radio show.

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Speaker 7: That's why I'm asking.

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Speaker 6: I actually forgot.

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Speaker 7: Okay, that's fine, Yeah, no, that's fine. But we actually

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Speaker 7: haven't talked to you in a while because you know,

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Speaker 7: you did mention to our producer Cody Merrow that that

927
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Speaker 7: Sunday morning time slot was a little too early for you,

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Speaker 7: so we haven't talked to you in a little while.

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Speaker 6: You know, Wow, it doesn't feel like that. It feels

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Speaker 6: like we.

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Speaker 9: Just, oh, well, that's good that it went out of chain.

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Speaker 9: We got chain gang on.

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Speaker 6: A chain, chain of fools. Chang change take you. You're

934
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Speaker 6: the only guy not singing. That's not fair.

935
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Speaker 7: We have a quarter of an hour with a man

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Speaker 7: who the masses want to hear from, and so much

937
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Speaker 7: has happened that I feel like we're already chasing the clock.

938
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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna mention Islamikashev and I'm just gonna let

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Speaker 7: you rip.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, listen, first off, I think one of the best

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Speaker 11: cards I've seen.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe since Yeah, I think you texted

943
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Speaker 6: me shout out. I thought that.

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Speaker 11: I mean up until like the co Maine and the

945
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Speaker 11: main event that fight that night was just flying and

946
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Speaker 11: then you know, I mean we got two really dominant

947
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Speaker 11: performances that I didn't expect it would be that dominant,

948
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Speaker 11: But yeah, it was.

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Speaker 6: A great night.

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Speaker 11: And Islam, you know, what could you say? Made it

951
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Speaker 11: look easy? And uh, that's it, you know, that's off

952
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Speaker 11: to him, and that's what that's off to Valentine.

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Speaker 6: The two. I thought Valentine afford a great fight, made

954
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Speaker 6: that look easy. I do it. Uh, Wiley would have

955
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Speaker 6: did way better than that.

956
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Speaker 7: So Joanguae Lee is so strong, but not just that,

957
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Speaker 7: like she's well prepared. I mean you've cornered with john

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Speaker 7: Wood like they certainly tried to do their homework. She

959
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Speaker 7: asked Dana White for this fight in twenty nineteen after

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Speaker 7: she beat Jessica on draws. Right, like when Hanato Moikano

961
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Speaker 7: Kenny and Ray loses to Islami Kashev and Rogan says

962
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Speaker 7: short notice and he's like no, no, no, Like it's

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Speaker 7: been a lifetime building towards this fight. This is completely

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Speaker 7: fucking humiliating, you know, like yeah yah, yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 7: I mean john Way Lee pull six years towards that

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Speaker 7: fight and got fifty to forty five like you read about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and again it could have been worse.

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Speaker 7: So Ray, in terms of Shemaiah versus Dukeles and Makashav

969
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Speaker 7: versus Jack Della Madelena, are these gaps that can ever

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Speaker 7: be bridged?

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Speaker 11: Ah man, it's a great question. Uh, not gaps that

972
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Speaker 11: are going to get bridged. Uh, how long do you

973
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Speaker 11: have a decade?

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Speaker 7: Well, when I the Capitia takes to social media and says,

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Speaker 7: you need to have a camp that's only wrestling or

976
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Speaker 7: that's the that's the only salute. Kenny knows this.

977
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Speaker 11: Uh, I think you need a lifetime of wrestling and

978
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Speaker 11: then you have to have a camp focused on wrestling.

979
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Speaker 11: I think would be a better solution because the gap

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Speaker 11: just looks uh. I mean so, I mean the question

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Speaker 11: has to be for the people that fought, you know,

982
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Speaker 11: like did Wiley and did Jack? Can they make up

983
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Speaker 11: the gap? And I'm saying, based on what I've seen,

984
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Speaker 11: what where would that be? You know, like who's going

985
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Speaker 11: to feel confident with those two fighting again the same

986
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Speaker 11: type of fight? I don't see that happening. But I mean,

987
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Speaker 11: like the Pooria if you hear his wrestling is good,

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Speaker 11: you know, it's it's almost like think, uh, Morob and

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Speaker 11: Uma Uma is a great fight. I just don't think

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Speaker 11: he'll ever out wrestle Morob, you know what I mean.

991
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Speaker 11: And that's going to be that's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 11: So the wrestling is just huge.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 11: You put the fight where you wanted and uh, you know,

995
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Speaker 11: I don't think the UFC likes it, you know what

996
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Speaker 11: I mean. I mean, we can't get you know, pull

997
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Speaker 11: me the cooter into the UFC because McK maine says

998
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Speaker 11: he's boring, boring based on what like, did Mick think

999
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 11: those were exciting fights? And I did he think those

1000
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Speaker 11: were exciting fights? Does he have the bulls to say

1001
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Speaker 11: that they weren't exciting?

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Speaker 7: So I was just going to say that Joe Silva,

1003
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Speaker 7: his matchmaking style, would have now made Jack dela Madeleine

1004
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Speaker 7: fight Sean Brady. You know, It's like, all right, so

1005
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,240
Speaker 7: that's how it went against ISLAMI kashev.

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Speaker 9: Well, now let's see how you know.

1007
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Speaker 7: But I think the climate we're in right now, Kenny, Right,

1008
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Speaker 7: Jack dela Madeleine has got a whole nation in per

1009
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Speaker 7: w A behind it. You know, let's give him a striker,

1010
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 7: you know.

1011
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, I don't know, probably yeah.

1012
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Speaker 11: I mean that that was that that the disparagy was

1013
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Speaker 11: pretty huge, right, Kenny?

1014
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Speaker 6: With that was I I think I have the answer to.

1015
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Speaker 11: UH to the UFC's problems. Go ahead if they consider

1016
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 11: those problems. But you know, it's funny, Kenny, I don't

1017
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Speaker 11: know if you remember it then John Toe. Do you

1018
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 11: remember Battlecade back in the day. It was right when

1019
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 11: the UFC came out. They did a couple of shows,

1020
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Speaker 11: good fights Conan and Saveria for.

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Speaker 8: Uh Extreme the extreme fighting Extreme Extreme.

1022
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Speaker 11: Maybe that's cool. Yeah, yeah, I just saw a fight

1023
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Speaker 11: like that. Do you know that fence grabbing was legal?

1024
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Speaker 1: Really?

1025
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 11: It was interesting fence grabbing was legal. I say, make

1026
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 11: fence grabbing legal. You can't get the guy down. You

1027
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 11: got to go back out to the center of the cage.

1028
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 11: That's what they want, and then you can knock the

1029
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Speaker 11: ship out of each other.

1030
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Speaker 7: I mean it sounds like you should watch dirty boxing

1031
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Speaker 7: or one of these.

1032
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 6: I never saw that. Yeah, oh no.

1033
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Speaker 7: But I was saying earlier. You know this is mixed

1034
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Speaker 7: martial arts. Yet all the advantages are for the strikers,

1035
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 7: and now you want to allow them to grab the

1036
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Speaker 7: fucking fence. I mean, imagine if you're Islam and the

1037
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Speaker 7: rules were and it might be this way in a

1038
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Speaker 7: different climate. But we're in the UH. I think we're

1039
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Speaker 7: in the power slap business, right. We're trying to create

1040
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 7: viral moments and knockouts. That's the world in which we live.

1041
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 7: But in a world in which we were trying to

1042
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 7: make mixed martial arts the greatest sport in the world

1043
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Speaker 7: with constant evolution to rules or whatever. Right, Like, I mean,

1044
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Speaker 7: I know there are a lot of us Rogan, George

1045
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Speaker 7: Saint Pierre, myself. We don't want to clock right or

1046
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 7: at least a ten minute round and round one show

1047
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 7: all of these guys out right, But imagine when this

1048
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 7: mom wins round one and he's got Jack down, why

1049
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 7: does Jack get to begin on the feet? Because are

1050
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 7: we kickboxing?

1051
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Speaker 9: I don't.

1052
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Speaker 6: That's another good point.

1053
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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, come up with a you know,

1054
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 11: maybe like in wrestling they have a tech fall. I mean,

1055
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Speaker 11: if you're down there for the first fifteen minutes, for

1056
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Speaker 11: over twelve minutes, that the fight's over.

1057
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Speaker 6: How about that?

1058
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, And it's something that's interesting I think. Also is

1059
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Speaker 8: if you had islamahashev compete on Dana White's Contender series.

1060
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not and he wanted. He's not gonna get

1061
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: on That's what's crazy.

1062
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Speaker 7: Also, now he'd go against a low level fighter and

1063
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Speaker 7: maybe finish him with a submission or something like that.

1064
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 7: So it's it's interesting because the UFC they want exciting fighters,

1065
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 7: but at the same time, you don't keep your job

1066
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Speaker 7: if you're not consistent either, right, So it's like, I

1067
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 7: don't know, it's interesting.

1068
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Speaker 11: Yeah, that But Kenny brings up a great point, John,

1069
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Speaker 11: is that, Yeah, if that fight is on the contendership,

1070
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Speaker 11: both of them, they're both not getting on. Not not

1071
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Speaker 11: only are they're not getting on, they're getting a verbal

1072
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Speaker 11: tongue lish.

1073
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Speaker 6: You know what data is it and they get destroyed.

1074
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Speaker 7: Yeah. But you know part of the issue too, right,

1075
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 7: is that by the time Valentina fights, and she thought

1076
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 7: pretty early on relative to how some pay per views

1077
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 7: play out, but you know, at that point in time,

1078
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 7: there have already been twelve mixed martial arts contests, right,

1079
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 7: So I do believe that if you were in a

1080
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 7: more normalized environment where you didn't have a roster of

1081
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 7: seven hundred and you had eight to ten fights a night, right,

1082
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 7: maybe the masses would be of a more competitive nature

1083
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 7: for the grappling by night's end. But at that point

1084
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 7: in time, I don't think people want to see fifty

1085
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 7: minutes of grappling.

1086
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, like to the to the

1087
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 11: people that are really into a look, it's it's great

1088
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 11: to control you appreciate the level you have to be

1089
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 11: at to do that to somebody. I mean that that

1090
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 11: you can't take away. But I'm saying this, I'm just

1091
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 11: going first on being a devil's advocate has no bearing

1092
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 11: on what the hell I think. But if they want excitement,

1093
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 11: you know that that becomes a problem.

1094
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 8: You know, right, how much do you think of the

1095
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 8: emotional part of it was a factor in the JDM

1096
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 8: fight because you know, to me, you know, he looked

1097
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 8: like he was pretty frustrated, especially after round two. Like

1098
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 8: do you think we saw Jack at his best or

1099
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 8: his Islam just that good?

1100
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 6: Oh man?

1101
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 11: I think, uh, look, that's always going to be tricky.

1102
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 11: But I think we say Islam is that good? Well, listen,

1103
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 11: if there's a silver lining, Kenny, he did defend a

1104
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 11: lot of submissions that of the people succumbed to us.

1105
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 11: So I mean, like if I'm like, if I'm analyzing

1106
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 11: the jiu jitsu end of it, like for the I said, listen,

1107
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 11: you didn't get submitted, he did try, you weren't close.

1108
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 11: I mean, so he did a he did a good

1109
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 11: job somewhere. He did his homework, There's no question about it.

1110
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 11: But the takedowns weren't even close, and they weren't. Yeah,

1111
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 11: that's that's the issue. Where did that go wrong? But

1112
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 11: I think it was.

1113
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 7: Uh, that's a really good point. I just want to

1114
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 7: just add that Islamikashev was credited with zero submission attempts

1115
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 7: in the fight, which speaks to the fact that Jack

1116
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 7: was so preventative. I mean, Kenny's got about this right,

1117
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 7: but that Islam didn't even have a and those are

1118
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 7: good statisticians. He didn't even get credited with a single

1119
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 7: submission tap.

1120
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I listen when you.

1121
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 11: When you're in the position that Jack Mellon, Jack Della

1122
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 11: Mala Lena you are, that is the worst of the

1123
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 11: worst that you're gonna feel in a fight like that.

1124
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 11: Was just total control. I had two guys barring the

1125
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 11: other day. One guy good strike at the other guy,

1126
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 11: good striker, with good decent wrestling, nothing crazy, but just

1127
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 11: tortured the guy. Never got the guy never got a

1128
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 11: punch off, you know what I mean. And it was

1129
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 11: that go man, that that is that's gonna be the

1130
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 11: worst you ever felt like that just got nothing off.

1131
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 11: And I mean it's all right, even if every so

1132
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 11: often you land something, you get some satisfaction, but that

1133
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 11: that was that was I don't know how he makes

1134
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 11: that up. And I think hats off to Islam for

1135
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 11: being able to do that based on look, we all

1136
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 11: had it based on the Balal fight. Who bellows a

1137
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 11: good grapple or that JDM was able to do good

1138
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 11: is is Islam that much better than Balal? That he

1139
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 11: could do that tool where the ex champ couldn't do

1140
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 11: that tool that these are These are gaps that at

1141
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 11: this stage of the game, Kenny, I don't think they

1142
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 11: should be that big, Like, especially the way the sport

1143
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 11: should have evolved. I mean, when you get to the top,

1144
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 11: that should be you know, like a match of attributes

1145
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 11: where one is just edging out another one, not where

1146
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 11: it's that dominant man. I mean, like that's the du

1147
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 11: Plus's fight was the first example of that's like this

1148
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 11: guy can't do nothing.

1149
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 6: He's never going to be able to do anything. And

1150
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 6: that was a.

1151
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 11: Dominant guy before that, or at least a scrappy guy

1152
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 11: or a guy who never was gonna stop, who was determined

1153
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 11: and he had grit, And these guys are getting shut

1154
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 11: down and mentally, there can't be a worse feeling than that.

1155
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 8: There's a difference between getting taken down and getting takedown

1156
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 8: easily and.

1157
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: Takedowns.

1158
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I don't think there was resistance on any

1159
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 11: takedown yep.

1160
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 6: You know.

1161
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 7: So, Ray, what do you do next with Islami Kasha?

1162
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 7: We have a huge fight this weekend. Now, if you're

1163
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 7: Ian Mashado Gary and Bla Mohamed might join us before

1164
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 7: we get out of here. But if you're Ian Mashado

1165
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 7: Gary getting ready to fight Blao Muhammad, who at the

1166
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 7: time was the number one rank contender and former champion,

1167
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 7: now he's the number two rank contender. You're Ian, You're

1168
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 7: watching UFC three twenty two. You could have done without

1169
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 7: those two results from Michael Morales and Carlos protests in

1170
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 7: terms of your contendership. So what would you do next?

1171
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 7: Let's just say if Ian Mashadow Gary wins with a

1172
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 7: few style points, either a knockout or by decision, because

1173
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 7: Bilal obviously recently fought for the belt, and we're operating

1174
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 7: in a world where Ian maybe would get that opportunity.

1175
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 7: Uh Ian Mashato Gary, Michael Morales Carlos protests, and I guess,

1176
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 7: dare I say, Ilia Toputia?

1177
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 11: Oh listen, I always wanted to see the Taporia fight

1178
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 11: because I heard his wrestling is off the hook. But

1179
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 11: if Ian Gary Mitchattle goes out there and shuts down

1180
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 11: Ballal pretty convincingly, I think he gets to fight, and

1181
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 11: he's a massive He's a massive one seven, he's you yeah,

1182
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 11: you know, we could be a factor. But what does

1183
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 11: Ballal do if he wins? I mean, you know, he's

1184
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 11: you know, I'm.

1185
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 7: Just operating the world in which I think he's going

1186
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 7: to have to win too.

1187
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 6: But I mean, will he fight Islam if he wins? Yeah,

1188
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 6: oh all right, so nuts.

1189
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 7: And I think Islam would fight Blal if push came

1190
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 7: to shove.

1191
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 11: But I I thought they were doing this thing where

1192
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 11: he only he moves up, that he's doing that or

1193
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 11: whatever the hell.

1194
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 7: I not ideal, but their paths are not. I still

1195
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 7: think Balal has work to do. He's a pretty big

1196
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 7: underdog this weekend, and I think BA would have to

1197
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 7: win one more after that, a remaster with Brady or

1198
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 7: Della Madelena or you know, Michael Venam Page. I don't

1199
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 7: I'm just saying I just feel like, because there's so

1200
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 7: many content that that's not something promotionally they need to

1201
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 7: worry about, you know, but I could be obviously if

1202
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 7: he goes out and flower shadow Gary in a minute,

1203
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 7: he's right back in the mix. But blow leap frog

1204
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 7: a Protest or a Morales right based on ranking and

1205
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 7: accomplishment prior. But I just think it's what have you

1206
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 7: done for me lately? And Carlos protest is all the

1207
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 7: fucking range, Like you know, if he had done this

1208
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 7: twelve months are beyond on the cover of the goddamn

1209
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 7: video game. I don't think people realize what a start not.

1210
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 7: This is not I think Morales actually has the inside

1211
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 7: lane myself.

1212
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 11: So listening again, fantastic fights. Those fights were real. I

1213
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 11: mean they were just excite. I couldn't take this is

1214
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 11: the first time I couldn't take my eyes off the screen.

1215
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 11: I mean the difference is when we came to the

1216
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 11: last two fights.

1217
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did rule him.

1218
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 11: Around the house a little bit, like you knew after

1219
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 11: around or two, you knew things were going to change,

1220
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 11: you know, But those other fight see, that to me

1221
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 11: is what makes you know, And I'm sure like Dana

1222
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 11: would like kind of agree with that, Like I wasn't

1223
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 11: budget man like this. That's why it takes to John goo, John,

1224
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 11: It's just like one of the best nights of fights

1225
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 11: that was already after.

1226
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 7: Eleven seventeen PM. So Valentino was walking excuse me and Ray,

1227
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 7: and Ray wrote, so far one of the best cards

1228
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 7: I've seen in a long time. Right, but you hear

1229
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 7: Ray Longo, who has a deep appreciation for mixed martial arts,

1230
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 7: just sort of said tongue in cheek, I probably ruined

1231
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 7: the whole night, right and for me, at the end

1232
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 7: of an exceedingly long week, in that moment, I'm not

1233
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 7: I'm completely captivated and in awe of Valentina and Islam.

1234
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, I'm it's certainly a long night, and

1235
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 7: I gotta go do the post fight show. I get

1236
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 7: to go do the post fight show afterwards. But in

1237
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 7: the moment, all I'm thinking is like, oh my gosh,

1238
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 7: can you like I'm you.

1239
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 9: Know what I think?

1240
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 7: I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, is should have been minus

1241
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 7: seven oh five and not minut a three oh five and.

1242
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 8: And I'm I'm an MMA nerd anyway, But you know what,

1243
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 8: So I got off a flight from Mexico, I'm still

1244
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 8: in a lot of pain. Uh you know, I typically

1245
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 8: go to sleep by like ten o'clock. I'm usually asleep

1246
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 8: before then. Uh, I stayed up for both fights. I

1247
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 8: enjoyed obviously, the whole card was amazing, but I love both,

1248
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 8: you know, comine and main events.

1249
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: Like I actually enjoyed it.

1250
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 8: But you know, maybe not everybody thought it that way,

1251
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 8: But yeah, I enjoyed it as well.

1252
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: I really did.

1253
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 7: Know.

1254
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 11: I think all the people that are involved enjoyed it.

1255
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 11: I mean, that's the thing, but it's not I don't.

1256
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 11: Do you think that the brass enjoyed it? That's the

1257
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 11: question that really doesn't matter what we enjoy we're not.

1258
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 11: We don't control anything.

1259
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 7: Well, let me ask you this question. I'm gonna plead

1260
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 7: the fifth on that last one. Yeah, so Ken Flow

1261
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 7: basically has Iliot Topotia's face tattooed on his neck at

1262
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 7: the stot. He is an anabashed fan of Topoitia, but

1263
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 7: he does not think a too Puritia Makashev fight at

1264
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 7: seventy is competitive. It sounds like, nah, I think it

1265
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 7: would be more competitive than Kenny does.

1266
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 11: Right, Well, do you think it would be more competitive?

1267
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 11: And the Jack de la Mona Lena fight?

1268
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 8: The size issue is where I have a problem with it,

1269
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 8: where I don't know, Like skill wise, yeah, I think

1270
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 8: that skill for skill he's going to be better off

1271
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 8: than Jack.

1272
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: So absolutely great point.

1273
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 8: The size as far as Islam dominating that, I don't know.

1274
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 8: I don't think he wants to take that fight at

1275
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 8: one seventy.

1276
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I'm probably agreeing with you on that.

1277
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 11: I just think, you know we said it before, it's attitude,

1278
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 11: and I think the guys, like the Morabs and the Taporia,

1279
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 11: the attitude is really what keeps him in there. Look,

1280
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 11: you could see, like Kabeeb does a great job with

1281
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 11: these guys. My opinion, they just train harder than everybody.

1282
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 11: They they good, but they're training hard. I'm sure nobody's

1283
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 11: telling Kabi man, I don't feel like running today, my

1284
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 11: legs are sore, or you know what I'm saying. Like

1285
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 11: it a different mindset and these other guys I just

1286
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 11: don't think have the mindset, and the guys that have

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Speaker 11: the mindset are going to.

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Speaker 6: Be the guys that really compete well.

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Speaker 11: And I believe it's that that simple, because at this

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Speaker 11: stage of the game, everybody should know what the hell

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Speaker 11: they're doing. Like again, the disparagy was just so huge

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Speaker 11: in those two fights that I mean, I'd have to

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Speaker 11: get in there and see what the hell was going on.

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Speaker 11: But that's that's those were big gaps.

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Speaker 9: And yeah, and that's why I'm thinking.

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Speaker 7: I'm I'm thinking more than Viscer and drinkis do plus

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Speaker 7: C and they've been thinking about Shamaiah for a long

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Speaker 7: time and a crude all the championship experience and then

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Speaker 7: it's like whoa, yep, I look.

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Speaker 6: Back in the day.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I I wouldn't even mind seeing Camaro's wont fight.

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Speaker 11: I mean, he Fortumaya good. You know that time, he

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01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,479
Speaker 11: was tough. He's a big guy. You know he's gonna

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Speaker 11: be big for that weightliss or a decent sized guy.

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Speaker 11: I think that's depending on where his injuries are, on

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Speaker 11: where he's at. That's a that's a really good fight.

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Speaker 11: Islam against Uzman. I would love to see that fight.

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Speaker 9: Kenny.

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Speaker 7: I should probably apologize to Usman, right because I did

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Speaker 7: forget to include his name. Right. You have to acknowledge

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 7: the last performance. Jakie Buckley was on this long winning streak.

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Speaker 7: He was the Carlos protest, the guy knocking people out right,

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, and and obviously Balal and other

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Speaker 7: champions Pass would love to get that Kamorrow name on

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Speaker 7: their Wikipedia page. So yeah, I mean, I do think

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Speaker 7: a lot of people feel like Kamara Usman in terms

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Speaker 7: of his risk mitigation and his size and his strength

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Speaker 7: and his technique. That in terms of competitiveness, that that

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Speaker 7: that does make some sense.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it would be interesting. I think it

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Speaker 8: would be very interesting, you know. I think it would

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Speaker 8: probably come down to the wrestling. Whoever the better wrestler

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Speaker 8: is in that fight is going to win that fight.

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Speaker 8: I think both are about equal when it comes to

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Speaker 8: the striking game. Usman might carry a little bit more

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Speaker 8: power because of his size, but gosh, you know, we

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Speaker 8: saw the hamzat Chimaia fight against Uzman that was at

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Speaker 8: one eight five of course, not one seventy.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, but I do think that, you know, Islam Mahashev

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Speaker 8: is on that that level when it comes to that

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Speaker 8: wrestling as well, So.

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Speaker 6: Who knows is a big difference.

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Speaker 11: Jamayav's a big freaking kid man, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 11: So Uzman's a naturally decent sized one seventy. I see,

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Speaker 11: that's the fire that fight I would love to see.

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Speaker 1: That's a great fight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, Ray We'll let you get on with the

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Speaker 7: rest of your Wednesday. We appreciate you squeezing us and sincerely.

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Speaker 6: Very good. What else that was it?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I I'll keep you for another sixty seconds

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Speaker 7: and ask you about bon Nickel if you're selling.

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Speaker 11: Clined man bon Nickel, God bless him, man back on track.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I would have liked to have seen a

1345
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 6: little more combos out of him.

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Speaker 11: He was just one shot, one shot, one shot, but wow,

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 11: what a great head kick finish. And uh, I mean

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01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 11: he's just got to do his thing and forget about

1349
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Speaker 11: the crowd. I mean, you know, once you but you know,

1350
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 11: pander into the crowd never is never going to go

1351
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 11: your way. So I feel bad for him in that regard.

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01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 11: I'd just go out and fight. You're super talented and

1353
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 11: that was good. I mean, look, the East Coast, with

1354
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 11: the exception of Brady, was on fire that night. Fatima

1355
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 11: Cleine was unbelievable. Thought she was fantastic. Aaron Blanchefield. Great

1356
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 11: to see Kyle Dorcas get back in there. It looks good,

1357
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 11: and you know, i'd be on you know, after his release,

1358
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 11: I'd see that kid on the on the local scene,

1359
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 11: still grinding it out in those Philly shows and never

1360
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 11: giving up on himself. I love to see those stories.

1361
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,759
Speaker 11: Now he's back in getting a couple of wins. Hopefully

1362
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 11: he could keep moving forward.

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01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: But shows a special character for sure.

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Speaker 6: Him and has brought me.

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Speaker 11: I would see him with you know, a day, what's up.

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01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 11: I'm glad you guys are still hanging in there, and

1367
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 11: he got what he wanted.

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01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 6: One guy's back in.

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01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 11: I'd love to see his brother get back into But

1370
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 11: hats off to those guys, I mean, especially Kyle for

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01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 11: doing what he's doing. And again he didn't have it easy.

1372
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 11: He had to go back to the local scene and

1373
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 11: groined his way back up. So yeah, I thought everybody

1374
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 11: did really good.

1375
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 7: And you know who's a real problem for everybody at

1376
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 7: one hundred and forty five pounds, including your guy Alja

1377
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 7: man Sterling, even though Aljo's too far ahead, right, this

1378
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 7: guy went into this weekend probably number twenty seven or

1379
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 7: twenty eight in the world.

1380
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 9: Pat Salbenten, he might be the best.

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01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 6: Sabatini a way.

1382
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: I didn't see that fight.

1383
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 6: I gotta tell Kenny, you're gonna like that fight, right grappling.

1384
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 6: That was a good fight though. Yeah, Sabatin. He killed

1385
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 6: the toe.

1386
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 9: He is a monster monster.

1387
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ray outstanding tidy wrapping up UFC three twenty two

1388
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 7: for us. We wish you a great day at a

1389
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 7: better evening. What's next on your schedule today?

1390
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 11: Uh, just going to the gym Tomorrow night, Me and Sara,

1391
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 11: We're going to go to uh Teddy Atlas's benefit he

1392
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 11: does every year, which is a great, great benefit. He

1393
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 11: helps a lot of people that are in need. Really,

1394
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,679
Speaker 11: I went last year and really had a great time

1395
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 11: just watching the emotion in the room, and it's it's

1396
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 11: for a good cause, and I think Teddy's a really

1397
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 11: really good dude.

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 6: So looking forward, looking forward to that.

1399
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 7: We love that long ago Atlas connection. All right, buddy,

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01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,240
Speaker 7: we'll talk to you next week. Thank you condly. You're

1401
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 7: the man actually won't happy Thanksgiving?

1402
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 11: Oh shoot Thanksgiving. And I'm glad you're feeling better, John.

1403
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 7: I appreciate that.

1404
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 6: You're okay too.

1405
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm doing okay. So I'm doing better.

1406
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 6: So I thought it was you had acne broke out.

1407
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 6: You didn't want to people were on there. I mean,

1408
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 6: I guess I told Cody, can I get too tough

1409
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 6: for guys to work with? This fucking embarrassing. I gotta go.

1410
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 11: Feel good, feel good.

1411
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 6: Nice seeing you.

1412
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 7: This guy, man, this guy leaves the league in nerve

1413
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 7: right now, you know, unbelievable. We congratulate ethan Ewing as well.

1414
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 7: Tremendous performance against Malcolm well Maker. Oh well Makers oh

1415
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 7: on forty eight hours notice. And I found myself as

1416
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 7: I was prepping on Friday night listening to New York

1417
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 7: nicks PA introductions when you know, I forget the guy's name.

1418
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,759
Speaker 7: I had it in my UFC notes and that center

1419
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 7: from Georgetown number thirty three, Patrick Ewing, you know, and

1420
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 7: got fucking ethan Ewing at Madison Square Garden. It was tremendous.

1421
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,679
Speaker 7: And to see him perform like that, he looked UFC

1422
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 7: season was ready to go. Tremendous night at UFC three

1423
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 7: twenty two. And uh, you know, when your expectations for

1424
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 7: like the protests of the world, expectations are resentments in waiting, right,

1425
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 7: this dude just continues to any expectations you have as

1426
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 7: a fan, you know, Carlos Protest just continues to deliver.

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01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, an.

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01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 7: Amazing night for the Combat Sports Leader. All Right, We're

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01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 7: going to spin it forward because UFC Fight Night Sarajion

1430
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 7: versus Hooker Beckons in a few days. Pronunciation of the

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Speaker 7: you down. All right, So we got a lightweight turned

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01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 7: welterweight out of Kyrgyzstan, a nation that created Valentina Chevchenko,

1435
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 7: or at least the nation in which he was born.

1436
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 7: I guess Russia created her. Last two fights for this individual,

1437
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 7: can Flow have been catchweight affairs one hundred and sixty pounds,

1438
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 7: one hundred and sixty five pounds, and now, perhaps forcibly,

1439
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 7: he moves up to the one hundred and seventy pound

1440
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 7: division for a main card tilt this weekend. Name is

1441
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 7: spelled m y k t y b e k last

1442
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,679
Speaker 7: name O R O l b A I.

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01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: It's pretty simple. Uh yeah, no, let's see mickde bec

1444
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: ortal by or By.

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01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 7: I love hearing you say his surname Cody. You can

1446
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 7: trigger the file.

1447
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: Did it get it right? I don't know.

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01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 6: My name is mute.

1449
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: My name is Mute Way muck dee bec, not mickd Beck,

1450
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: muckt bec oral b.

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 7: Muck to Beck oral By yeah, not that easy. Circle

1452
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 7: does not get the square. But I'm looking at the

1453
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 7: fight card and some of these files we don't have

1454
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 7: yet because they're newcomers, you know.

1455
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 9: But there's this one name.

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 7: It looks like Saigid is a Goakmayev is a gak

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01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 7: Mayev is a name that is going to be uh

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01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 7: said for the first time, Abdul Rochman Yakyayev. It's a

1459
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 7: challenging card all things considered, Kenny, do you know how

1460
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 7: to pronounce Dan Hooker's main event opponent's name? By chance?

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01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: Armand Serukian armand so.

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01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 7: I have a hard time with this last name, because, yeah,

1463
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 7: a lot of people want to say it like that.

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 7: When I hear his file, I hear Sarukian. I hear

1465
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 7: him emphasizing the last syllable and saying Sarukian. But Serukian

1466
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 7: is what Petri says, and Serukian is what a lot

1467
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 7: of people say. But when we present to you this file,

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 7: at least what I hear and I try to then say,

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01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 7: is is saruk So let's uh, let's hear the man himself.

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Speaker 12: And go amanfe sar r Young one more time, Arman

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Speaker 12: sar rkng.

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Speaker 1: Sarru.

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01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, the way he elongates it isn't ideal

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01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 7: either you almost right? Yeah, Hey, if Flappy or Zach

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01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 7: Candido or watching the program I know you guys used

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 7: to watch. Maybe have him say his name to tape

1477
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 7: again in Qatar because that files a little bit confusing.

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01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we.

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Speaker 7: by big On Brian Peter. You're looking at the way

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Speaker 7: you look good, Thank you, sir. I mean you always

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Speaker 7: you look really good today.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, no, no problem. Yeah, it was busy. We had

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Speaker 1: a day and a half.

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Speaker 12: I was with the kids and the wife. I mean

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Speaker 12: there's only so much you can do. You're a busy man.

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Speaker 12: So you know, I was kind of up. Usually on

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Speaker 12: lower level I get to maybe pop in and see

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Speaker 12: you real quick.

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Speaker 1: I was a little upper higher levels.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, is what it is. You were so in

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01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 7: the moment. You only took one picture. But as I stand,

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Speaker 7: the Big Gun fans that were heard from them.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, dude, like so the guy that sat right next

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Speaker 12: to me, he followed me on Twitter, he loves the show.

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Speaker 1: He's like, Big Gun. I gotta say, what's up.

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Speaker 12: A dude from Twitter's like, hey, I'm in road nineteen

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Speaker 12: behind you, turn around a wave. And then I was

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01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 12: I was walking. I walked back to my hotel. Some

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Speaker 12: guy walked up behind me, is like, love your jacket.

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01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:39,759
Speaker 1: Big Gun. Gave me a wink.

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Speaker 12: And then I don't eat or drink when I'm out

1531
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 12: to fight because I don't leave my seat, I don't piss,

1532
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 12: I don't do nothing right. So on the way back

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Speaker 12: to the hotel, there's a McDonald's here.

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01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it, this is just grab McDonald's. Grab McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Turn around, there's this English.

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Speaker 12: Guy goes, hey, big Gun, your legend mate. He gives

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Speaker 12: you a little fistbomp. I'm like this city showing me

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Speaker 12: some love.

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Speaker 9: I love your wife was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, so the wife didn't go to the fights.

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Speaker 12: I went with somebodies from three PC and the wife

1542
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 12: stayed with help back with the kids. They went to

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Speaker 12: n Museum. And then I have a really good friend

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Speaker 12: who was my wedding, you know, with grubbing society. He's

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 12: living New York fourteen years so she got together with

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Speaker 12: him and his wife and kids. So they were taken

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Speaker 12: care of nice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So what I was gonna say rudely in the place

1550
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 7: of your introduction, but you know you're in this business

1551
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 7: long enough. As you're reading a DraftKings commercially, your brain

1552
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 7: starts to spin with how best to ask Brian something

1553
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 7: about UFC three twenty two that is contextually relevant to

1554
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 7: this conversation. And I found my mind gravitating to Yanni

1555
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 7: the Greek on UFC on the line, right, this man

1556
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 7: can pick any bet on the entire card to give

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Speaker 7: out to the masses. And this guy puts his testicles

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Speaker 7: on the table and says, Michael Morales, you know I

1559
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 7: love that, and I'm not an MMA sharp guys, right,

1560
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 7: like I'm not I know certain things, but I'm not

1561
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 7: an MMA betting sharp and I'm not telling you how

1562
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 7: I felt brat and Morales was gonna go down. But

1563
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Speaker 7: if you had asked me to come up with the

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Speaker 7: best bet on the car, and I'm sure as fuck

1565
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 7: wouldn't have submitted to you, Michael Morales, you know, yeah, right,

1566
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 7: so that was super impressive. But my question for you,

1567
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 7: Brian is how come And this might be unanswerable, but

1568
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 7: nobody was saying during the week, like, hey, I know

1569
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,839
Speaker 7: Islam's minus three to zero five, he should be minus

1570
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 7: five fifty. Everybody's saying, wow, there's so much value on Jack,

1571
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 7: but yet the number either held firm or moved towards Islam.

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Speaker 9: So what do you have for me on that?

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01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 12: I mean, I knew a lot of people on Jack.

1574
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 12: I mean we all watched the Blou fight and was like,

1575
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 12: I think Jack can handle himself here, right, You're like,

1576
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 12: Bloo has pressure Blauhause wrestling, he can get up. And

1577
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 12: Jack had a full camp with Craig Jones, the Dakistanian

1578
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 12: Whisper and all these things, and then he just didn't really,

1579
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Speaker 12: I don't know if he didn't perform there's that big question,

1580
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 12: was he flat or was Islam that good? I tend

1581
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 12: to think that Islam was that good. And I think

1582
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 12: Jack obviously had some obviously worked on his ground game.

1583
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 12: He didn't give up any submissions. He really defended the

1584
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 12: submission as well. And there were some things that Jack

1585
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 12: tried to do that he tried to hit a couple

1586
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 12: of sweeps. He definitely tried to do some different things

1587
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 12: on the single leg and they just weren't working. And

1588
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 12: I think he got shut down on that. But yeah,

1589
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 12: I don't I didn't see a ton of people loving Islam.

1590
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 12: A guy next to me had Islam by decision, Matty

1591
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 12: Betts won like one hundred thousand dollars by by decision.

1592
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 12: So there were some sharps on it. But like Kenny

1593
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 12: and I both were on Jack because what we saw

1594
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 12: in the the Blou fight and we're just like, this

1595
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 12: guy is just gonna get better now he's got the straup,

1596
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 12: now he's got the money, and it just wasn't there

1597
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 12: and shout.

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01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: Out to Islam.

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Speaker 12: And by the way, I agree with with Kenny and Ray.

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: I liked the fight.

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01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 12: I like when someone's so dominant like that. That's why

1602
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 12: The Volkanovski fight with Islam was so great because the

1603
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 12: Volkanowski won because Volkanovski was stopping this phenom, right, Like,

1604
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 12: that's what gets me going. It's like, who's gonna be

1605
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 12: able to stop what this guy does? That's what gets

1606
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 12: me excited. I think that's the best thing about MMA,

1607
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 12: better than boxing, better than all these other sports, is

1608
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 12: because you're like, you got a guy who's so good

1609
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 12: at what he does. You know what he does. You

1610
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 12: spent ten weeks with the best coaches in the world

1611
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 12: to defend it, and you can't do it when you

1612
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 12: get in there. That's how fucking good he is. And

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01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 12: I love that about the sport. I love the fire.

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01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: I love the comin event as well well.

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01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 7: I think part of the reason Ken Flow was on

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01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 7: Jack is just the unknowns with Islam moving up the

1617
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 7: weight class. But the odds makers just sharp, man, you know. So,

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01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 7: yeah's three oh five sitting there, you know, Like I

1619
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 7: think for both of you guys, it's like there's unknowns

1620
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 7: with Islam at welterweight that just are not going to

1621
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 7: exist going into a second UFC appearance, and I think

1622
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 7: it's gonna be reflected in the price all right, I'll

1623
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 7: have a quick prelim selection for you guys and then

1624
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 7: we'll spin it to the main card. So this fight

1625
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,799
Speaker 7: was gonna be on the main card. I got another

1626
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 7: draft and it wasn't. But since you guys did a

1627
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 7: little bit of homework, I wanted to at least bring

1628
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 7: it out there. It is a relevant fight at flyweight

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Speaker 7: number eight, as sue a'm a by of Monus two

1630
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 7: oh five seven trank Dallas. Perez is plus one seventy

1631
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 7: So I don't know how Bry you assessed all my

1632
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 7: bay already beat jose O cho on points his last

1633
01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 7: time out, but worst performanceive career comes in the main

1634
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 7: event against Minel cop not really putting anybody away. Two

1635
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 7: to one here against Alex Perez, who hasn't fought in

1636
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 7: a while. How do you see this one going down?

1637
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1638
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 12: I mean I wanted to take Perez, but the inactivity

1639
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 12: scares me coming up knee injury as well, with the

1640
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 12: grappling of a mobia who is going to wrestle you.

1641
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: You kind of.

1642
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 12: Saw a similar fight where Alex Prez took on Muhammed

1643
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 12: o Kayev. We only got taken out three or four

1644
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 12: times and he looked okay, but he didn't do anything.

1645
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 12: I think the grappling's gonna shut Perez down having a

1646
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 12: full camp. He's been away for over a year now,

1647
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 12: probably trying to grapple with a bum knee, you know,

1648
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 12: coming back after knee injury.

1649
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: That's never good.

1650
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 12: So as much as I want to pull the trigger

1651
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 12: on the plus money on Perez, I am gonna go

1652
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 12: on Mobio. Probably by the decision, I think he gets

1653
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 12: it done. Three rounds, you know, clean.

1654
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 7: Sweet Kenny Alis Perez one and one in his last two,

1655
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 7: even though he's lost four of his last five, somehow

1656
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 7: maintaining the number seven slot in the world. The knee

1657
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 7: injury was sustained in that main event against Tatsuro Tyra

1658
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 7: that was June of twenty twenty four. Was scheduled to

1659
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 7: face Steve Urseg August twenty twenty five, pulled out due

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01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 7: to undisclosed reasons. Now ends a one and a half

1661
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 7: Your layoff in Katari.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, I see it like Brian sees it.

1663
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,600
Speaker 8: I think that Alma Biav's grappling is going to be

1664
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 8: a lot to handle for Perez, who is coming off

1665
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 8: that knee injury. I think that Perez might be the

1666
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 8: more powerful striker. So if he can land well and

1667
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 8: stop the takedown and frustrate Almabaiev, I think he can

1668
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,919
Speaker 8: do some things, but Amabiev's uh. I think his activity

1669
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 8: is consistency. Putting it all together, I think is going

1670
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 8: to be a lot. I'll have almabiav by decision in

1671
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 8: that one.

1672
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 7: All right, Now we get to the main card opener

1673
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 7: in Doha, and Brian, I don't know if you share

1674
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 7: my enthusiasm for the return of Kyogi Horagucci. This was

1675
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 7: to happen prior against this same opponent, eleventh rank tag

1676
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 7: girulan Bekhov, who will have Kapete Mirmanco Mettaw presumably in

1677
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,679
Speaker 7: his corner. Ulan Bekov minus two to oh five Kyog

1678
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 7: Horagucci the plus one seventy underdog. What a fight to

1679
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 7: kick off the main card. How do you see it?

1680
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 7: Play LPP?

1681
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, so no one wanted Horagucci to go. When he

1682
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 12: got cut, Everyone's like, what what's this? And then he

1683
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 12: did a lot of cross person with the PFO. He's

1684
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 12: bought some PFL belly studge as well, got some wins

1685
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 12: in there, and he obviously he's been dominating the Risen scene.

1686
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 1: But you look at his.

1687
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 12: Record, he hasn't fought a lot of guys with the

1688
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 12: last name ending and V.

1689
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't fucked these Russians yet, right, he.

1690
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 12: Hasn't fucked the EV's Jovi's. And he's got one in

1691
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 12: his bracket, right, He's got one, and he's got.

1692
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: A good one. A guy who can strike.

1693
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 12: He's got a guy that can strike it and grapple,

1694
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 12: and uh, that scares me.

1695
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 1: Horr Gucci.

1696
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 12: I think he wants to blim of his grappling. I

1697
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 12: think he wants to bloom of his striking. He's a

1698
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 12: very like you're gonna fight.

1699
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: At my pace.

1700
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 12: That's not gonna happen here against Ta Gear again, I

1701
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 12: looked hard at horror Gucci.

1702
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: I want him to win.

1703
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 12: I root for him. He's only thirty five years old.

1704
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 12: He's in the place he deserves to be in the UFC.

1705
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 12: I just think Ta Gear will him back off. It's

1706
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 12: gonna be a little too much more. I think he's

1707
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 12: fighting the better competition, and I think he's pretty dangerous

1708
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 12: when the fight gets to the ground as well. He's

1709
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 12: got some fancy kicks on him as well. So give

1710
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 12: me to Gear just to push the pace win a decision.

1711
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 7: I don't see him finishing Horror Gucci if the prop

1712
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 7: for submissions there late, I mean that might be something juicy,

1713
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 7: but yeah, give me to Gear. So when and my

1714
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 7: great great great great great grandparents left Lithuania on a

1715
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 7: raft back in the day, their last name was Annakoff, who.

1716
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: Urinov?

1717
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 9: But us so.

1718
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:18,840
Speaker 7: At least that's what we're going with, not Kenny tug

1719
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 7: Irelon Bekoff, Kyog Horror Gucci.

1720
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 6: Who do you like?

1721
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

1722
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 8: So I spent some time watching some Horr Gucci fights,

1723
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 8: especially this morning watched the Darien Caldwell fight, and you know,

1724
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 8: I think that Ullam Beckoff is probably a better striker

1725
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 8: than Caldwell and can kind of mimic some of that

1726
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 8: same wrestling and control that Caldwell has.

1727
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Horry Gucci is going to be smaller.

1728
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 8: Uham Bekoff is tall for the weight class, and I

1729
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 8: think Horror Gucci is going to be the more powerful

1730
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 8: guy and is very sharp, especially with some of his

1731
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 8: counter strikes as you enter. But I think Hory Gucci,

1732
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 8: if he's not able to get into a rhythm early on,

1733
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 8: I see him struggling in this one against Ullam Becoff,

1734
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 8: who and strike really well and can grapple really well.

1735
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 8: So I think that might throw Horror Gucci off. I'm

1736
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 8: a big fan of Horror Gucci, but I think this

1737
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 8: is a really tough stylistic matchup. If you're coming from

1738
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 8: a different organization into the UFC, UFC is not giving

1739
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 8: you any hand down.

1740
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh fight, Let's see how you do. Uh So yeah,

1741
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: I like Ullenbeckoff in this spot.

1742
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 7: It is rather remarkable the ruthless nature of the matchmaking

1743
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 7: for some of these people. See what you could do, right,

1744
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 7: I mean, you could have gotten several guys in the

1745
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 7: top fifteen that Horror Gucci would have been a five

1746
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 7: to one favorite against. He's plus one seventy this weekend YEP,

1747
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 7: Mike Thomas Brown and Trench and his Kana all Right

1748
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,759
Speaker 7: heavyweight division Shamil Gauze minus one forty two, Sergei Spivak

1749
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 7: plus one twenty. I mean, what are you feeling like

1750
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 7: if you're a heavyweight contender right now? It's like, well,

1751
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 7: I mean, stick around for five or seven years and

1752
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 7: maybe there might be an opportunity to fight Tom Aspall

1753
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 7: or steal God. So third time is the charm on

1754
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 7: this one because he even Spivak bry if I was

1755
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 7: booked in May, then moved to June. Then Gauze broke

1756
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 7: his foot, Spivok fought Waldo Cortes Acosta. What do you

1757
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 7: make of the big boys? VP?

1758
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Spinbauk's backs against the wall. He's owing to.

1759
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,720
Speaker 12: This is a guy that you know, came with a

1760
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 12: little bit of hike and then has moved the Vegas

1761
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 12: and really kind of implemented himself and really showed his

1762
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 12: ground game and that he's a sturdy heavyweight, and he's.

1763
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,440
Speaker 1: Been really inconsistent.

1764
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 12: Think got Gazie, who is a guy that's really good

1765
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 12: on the feet, He's got power. Where's the cardio at?

1766
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 12: You know, you know JASONA. Rosenstark broke him down that

1767
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 12: fourth round. You know he completely faded and gassed out.

1768
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 12: Has he fixed?

1769
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 5: That?

1770
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Is his ground game? All that good? You know? He

1771
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 1: take down the fence is eighty three percent.

1772
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 12: But if Spigboc doesn't get takedowns, I feel like he

1773
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 12: struggles and fights. He panics and he struggles, and I

1774
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 12: think that's what's gonna happen here. I think gazeve is

1775
01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 12: going to pick him apart on the feet, and I

1776
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 12: think he's gonna probably get a finish here.

1777
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: I think Spivak, you know, has been chinned before.

1778
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 12: I think we're looking at a knockout victor here.

1779
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 7: Ken Flow Gazee number eleven in the rankings, three and

1780
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 7: one in the UFC after the knockout of Thomas Peterson

1781
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 7: earlier this year in Riad Spivok, as Brian mentioned, zero

1782
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 7: and two spanning the last he is the more UFC

1783
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 7: tested party. Fourteen appearances, three main events, still number seven

1784
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 7: in the world, the slight dog here. How do you

1785
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 7: see a plan out? Can flip?

1786
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is an interesting one, you know. Uh, got Seve,

1787
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 8: I think is a big guy who's got some power.

1788
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 8: For sure, if he catches Spivak, Spivak's gonna be in Trump.

1789
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 8: So Spivak defensively has to be really sound in this fight,

1790
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 8: has to enter it the right times, you know. But

1791
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 8: you know, got Steeve isn't this guy who comes from

1792
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 8: this wrestling background. You know, he's a former professional.

1793
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Volleyball player or high level volleyball player.

1794
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 8: And Spivak, if you can get it going and get

1795
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 8: got Seeva on the ground and tire him out.

1796
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be his best bet here. Can

1797
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 1: he do that?

1798
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 8: I don't know, but I do think there's enough value

1799
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 8: on Spidvalk to get it done. I also think, you know,

1800
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 8: being zero and two, you have to believe he's gonna

1801
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 8: come in here fired up. Yeah, ungry, uh, with a

1802
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 8: good camp.

1803
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 6: So uh.

1804
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 1: I like Spivok here in this spot.

1805
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:54,560
Speaker 7: Actually yeah, I thought it might have been flipped and

1806
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 7: he might have been the favorite. We'll see how it

1807
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 7: plays out in Doha, Qatar, one pm Easter. By the way,

1808
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 7: for the main card this weekend. If you're curious and

1809
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 7: welterweight and muck to beck Oral by minus two point

1810
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 7: fifty eight against Jack Hermanson, who is plus two to ten.

1811
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 7: This is not a misprint, folks. Romanson moving down to

1812
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy pounds and if you know the guy,

1813
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 7: you know who'll have the discipline and the mentality to

1814
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 7: make the number. He's six to one seventy seven inch reach.

1815
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 7: He's not a small middleweight becoming a welterweight. But uh, Kenny,

1816
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 7: after alternating wins and losses for the last six years,

1817
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 7: right went win loss, win loss for ten straight fights.

1818
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 7: He makes the decision after the Gregory Rodriguez knockout to

1819
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 7: move down to face oral By Ken flow Leitus off

1820
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 7: if you would.

1821
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, and ordal By is one of those guys who

1822
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 8: comes with a lot of pressure. He's going to pursue

1823
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 8: a lot of takedowns. He's not afraid to stand in

1824
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 8: the pocket and trade and get bloody and you know,

1825
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 8: get knocked down, He's going to come right back at you.

1826
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 1: So Hermanson really needs to be very hungry heading into

1827
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: this one.

1828
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 8: And again, this being one hundred and seventy pound fight,

1829
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,680
Speaker 8: he's going to be in shape and he's got to

1830
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 8: have that cardio to go three hard rounds against someone

1831
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 8: like Otleby.

1832
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: But I like her Manson in this spot.

1833
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 7: I think if he can slow odle By down, stop

1834
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 7: the takedowns, I think he's got He kind of has

1835
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 7: that unorthodox game similar to Otleby, where he can kind

1836
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 7: of throw you off. But I think her Manson has

1837
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 7: more experience. So that's what I'm leaning on. I like

1838
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 7: her Manson in this spot.

1839
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 9: Bry.

1840
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, the beut crosses my inbox and I'm thinking Jack

1841
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 7: Hermanson at seventy. I mean, it's just crazy to think

1842
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 7: about the transformation. But how do you think he competes?

1843
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 7: And uh, what do you think he has for muck

1844
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:41,639
Speaker 7: to beck oral By?

1845
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, and I think or By I mean,

1846
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 12: I don't think he's a seventy pounder. I think he's

1847
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 12: a fifty five. Or he just needs a little more

1848
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 12: discipline that you know, So this could be like a

1849
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 12: eighty five vers of fifty five you think about it.

1850
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 12: But Jack har Manson cutting the way to thirty seven

1851
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 12: years old, obviously he's gonna do it right. He's gonna

1852
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 12: be in phenomenal shape with the age and the fact

1853
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 12: that he's just coming off getting knocked out. I mean,

1854
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 12: he probably just woke up a couple of weeks ago

1855
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 12: after the RoboCop thing. I feel like he's going to

1856
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 12: be a little afraid to engage. It's not like Orbi

1857
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 12: is a dangerous striker by any means, but he throws

1858
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 12: it out there. This guy doesn't give a fuck me.

1859
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 12: Look at the round the round Betsky fight. The guy's

1860
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 12: your face is swollm bleeding.

1861
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: He's like, what do you mean? We're stopping it?

1862
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 12: Like he is nuts and he's really good. He's coming

1863
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 12: off a quick, good submission win. He's obviously physically strong

1864
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 12: in there. That's the world big holder for me. He

1865
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 12: is physically strong. He can physically strong. These guys who

1866
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 12: are fifty five ers of they're making catch weights at

1867
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 12: sixty sixty five. What's he gonna do like a seventy

1868
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 12: and a big seventy and that and Hermanson who was

1869
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 12: also a good grappler. I'm not gonna put a ton

1870
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 12: of money on. It's not like I'm gonna, you know,

1871
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 12: put this is gonna be my lock in the night.

1872
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:40,679
Speaker 1: But give me Orbi.

1873
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 12: I think the grapplings is gonna be a little sharper,

1874
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 12: and I think he is real aggressive with his hands.

1875
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 12: I think he can get a real hesitant Jack Heromanson

1876
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 12: who doesn't want to really engage too much after his

1877
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 12: last fight.

1878
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take Orbin.

1879
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 7: Main event challenge here on the Anakin Floring Podcast. Three

1880
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 7: final predictions for UFC Fight Night Saraikian versus Hooker. Right

1881
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 7: back to you, Briy on the light Heavyweight Sneaky Big

1882
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 7: Fight here at two o five volkan Us Tamir minus

1883
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 7: two twenty five, Alonso Menafield plus one eighty five Uzimir

1884
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,880
Speaker 7: first appearance of the year coming off the late twenty

1885
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 7: twenty four loss in China to Carlos Oldberg. That was

1886
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 7: still on points though, right m h, I think he

1887
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,760
Speaker 7: still remains relevant at two oh five. And I guess

1888
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 7: Manifield's sort of finding a second footing. He's won two

1889
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:21,640
Speaker 7: in a row back out of the general safe soy

1890
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 7: ut in Dallas, Texas. What do you think Brian Uzdemir

1891
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,599
Speaker 7: minus two twenty five at Menafield of plus one eighty five.

1892
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,800
Speaker 12: Yeah, I love that Manifield's back with sud. You know,

1893
01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:32,680
Speaker 12: he's coming off that big underdog win over Marcie and

1894
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 12: you look good.

1895
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Right. It wasn't the most dominating performance.

1896
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 12: It wasn't like the fight of the night, but he

1897
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,879
Speaker 12: got a big win over a high, highly titled prospect.

1898
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 12: He got Volcanos to me, this guy don't got time

1899
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 12: for shit, right, There's got no time Volcanos Demir. But

1900
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 12: and he's coming off a really good performance over Collins Olberg.

1901
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Who's who's sleeping people?

1902
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 12: Colos Olberg is the next guy up, and Ozdemir took him,

1903
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 12: landed ninety five strikes eight ninety eight and took or

1904
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 12: ate yeah, ninety eight and took the fight to a

1905
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 12: decision like this guy. It's disrespectful to call him a

1906
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 12: a gatekeeper almost at a fight because two five is

1907
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 12: so fucking wide open. And don't be surprised who Osmir

1908
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,400
Speaker 12: got a title shot really early in his UFC career

1909
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 12: that he wasn't ready for. This guy starts putting wins together.

1910
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a.

1911
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 12: Tough out for a lot of people. Everyone knows I

1912
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 12: love Big Zoe. Everyone loves I know Zoe. I go

1913
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 12: Zoe underdog. People are starting to really understand my handicapping

1914
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 12: Jereed Murris card. If he's the underdog, I usually take

1915
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 12: it angela Hill underdog, I usually take it Big Zoe,

1916
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 12: my guy. I usually take it when I'm flipping, and

1917
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,639
Speaker 12: I like Ozdemir here. I think Osmir's got the cleaner boxing.

1918
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,559
Speaker 12: I think his grappling is I don't know if it's better.

1919
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,679
Speaker 12: I think both these guys probably watch each other out grappling.

1920
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 12: I think he's gonna able to get off the cage more.

1921
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 12: I think Zoe likes to clinch, likes he's that big body,

1922
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 12: that big old barrel chest putshing on the cage. I

1923
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:42,519
Speaker 12: think uh Ozmir is gonna be just finding the clinch,

1924
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:44,679
Speaker 12: and I think he's gonna box him up. Maybe a knockout.

1925
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 12: We've seen Zoe Gett knocked out before. But uh, yeah,

1926
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 12: give me volcanosman.

1927
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 7: Can Flow, Uzdmir monus two twenty five Manifield plus one

1928
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 7: eighty five. Who do you like?

1929
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:55,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, Manifield's a big, scary guy, but I think Uzdmir

1930
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 8: has a ton of experience. I think he's the better

1931
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 8: cleaner striker me outside. And I also think he's improved

1932
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 8: is grappling enough to where he can stop a lot

1933
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 8: of those takedowns up against the cage that Menifield will

1934
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:07,719
Speaker 8: inevitably try.

1935
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: So give me ooh ooh oozed, let's go home.

1936
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,640
Speaker 9: I knew that was coming, so uh.

1937
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:18,799
Speaker 7: The Komin event in the welterweight division features Ian Mashado

1938
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 7: Gary minus two fifty billoo. Remember the name Muhammad is

1939
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 7: plus two oh five. I am efforting a live line

1940
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 7: on DraftKings sports book right now because Muhammad has been

1941
01:33:30,360 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 7: seeing that number get bigger next to his name. It

1942
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 7: was plus one eighty for a time, now plus two

1943
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 7: oh five, So I just want to get to the

1944
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 7: most up to date number because we have seen some

1945
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,919
Speaker 7: movement and there it is Mashado Gary minus two seventy

1946
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 7: Belah Muhammad plus two twenty. So that number continues to rise.

1947
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 7: Mashadow Gary now approaching a near three to one favorite

1948
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,439
Speaker 7: against the former champion Ken f oeill start with you

1949
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,280
Speaker 7: on the comain event. Muhammad back for the first time

1950
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 7: since losing his belt to Jack Dela Mattelena in May,

1951
01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 7: and out of the blue corner. Ian Mashadow Gary beat

1952
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 7: Carlo Protest over twenty five useful minutes in April. Huge

1953
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 7: fight at one point seventy. We need a prediction. Who

1954
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 7: do you like?

1955
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: I really love this fight.

1956
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 8: I think it's really intriguing for a lot of reasons.

1957
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 8: Of course, Ballall, coming off that loss, you know Ian

1958
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,360
Speaker 8: mischade Ogary is going to be looking at that fight,

1959
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 8: paying close attention and try to mimic a.

1960
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: Similar blueprint that JDM used.

1961
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 8: However, Ballall is also a very smart guy and is

1962
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 8: gonna make the proper adjustments.

1963
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: Look at that fight.

1964
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 8: This is a guy that anytime he encounters any kind

1965
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,599
Speaker 8: of adversity, he usually comes back stronger. I would say

1966
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:36,920
Speaker 8: probably always comes back stronger. I think I also think

1967
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,800
Speaker 8: that Ian is gonna be the better striker, obviously, dealing

1968
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 8: with a guy who's six foot three, you know he's

1969
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,720
Speaker 8: going to try to establish that range. If he's able

1970
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 8: to do that, Ballall may be in for a long night.

1971
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 8: And I would be more convicted on this fight if

1972
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,599
Speaker 8: it was five rounds as opposed to three rounds.

1973
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 1: But I think that Ballall is going to lead a

1974
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: little bit more, a lean, a little bit more on

1975
01:34:58,960 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 1: his grappling here.

1976
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:01,280
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna look to get try to get

1977
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 8: into the legs of Ian Mashado, Gary, try to make

1978
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 8: the cage as small as possible and put him on

1979
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,120
Speaker 8: his back and kind of thwart the offensive.

1980
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: Gary.

1981
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,840
Speaker 7: I think if he does that and does that consistently,

1982
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,719
Speaker 7: like he's showed against a lot of other good strikers,

1983
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 7: I think he wins this one.

1984
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 1: Give me Balal Muhammad.

1985
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,799
Speaker 7: Minus two seventy for Mashado, Gary Muhammad plus two twenty

1986
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 7: like the value, fascinating co main event. Ken full likes

1987
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 7: the underdog, our friend Balah Mohammed bp the floors heres

1988
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:31,519
Speaker 7: my men.

1989
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, I love that Kenny hit on the fact that

1990
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,679
Speaker 12: that this is only three rounds. I know Blaw wanted

1991
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 12: a five. Ian said no, only three. I think five

1992
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 12: rounds plays a favor of Blau. I think, you know

1993
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 12: we saw Gary fade against Protest in the fifth round

1994
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 12: that he fucking will almost put out very very close.

1995
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:49,599
Speaker 1: I love Bla Muhammad.

1996
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 6: We all know that.

1997
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 12: You know Jason and Nic you know is part of

1998
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 12: this podcast. Obviously he's your brother John. He's got to

1999
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 12: blow tattoo on his back, he says, remember the name.

2000
01:35:56,840 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 12: We've all seen it. So they're obviously extremely close. And

2001
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 12: we we always get hit with this you know this bias.

2002
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 12: Oh you always pick Rero along Ago guys. You always

2003
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 12: picked blow guys. So I really took it a heart

2004
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 12: after Literally, when I walked back to my hotel Saturday night,

2005
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 12: the first thing I did was tape study this fight

2006
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 12: because this fight was giving me the most problems. I

2007
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 12: do think it's a bad matchup for Blau. I'm worried

2008
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 12: about Blao, who really has really good forward pressure. He's

2009
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 12: very good, but he's not the most defensively minded guy

2010
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 12: in the world. And Ian Gary has a really good

2011
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 12: movement with some sniping skills. His head kicks very dangerous.

2012
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 12: His right hand can be potent as well. But the

2013
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 12: more I break it down the more I looked at

2014
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 12: the wonder Boy fight. The way wonder Boy moves isn't

2015
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 12: as similar as Gary, but it's it's close. And he

2016
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 12: got wonder Boy down seven times and the big knock

2017
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 12: on blow after the jdmfires.

2018
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Why don't you wrestle?

2019
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 6: What are you?

2020
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 12: Where's you're wrestling at? So I think he'sould go back

2021
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 12: to that. I think he's gonna take Ian down. And

2022
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 12: Ian's obviously been working on his grappling. He's been taking

2023
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 12: people down, but he got taken down twice by rockmanoff.

2024
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: And couldn't get up.

2025
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 12: And I think if Blow takes him down, not that

2026
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 12: he has a top game of shop cut, I think

2027
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 12: he wants them to get up so he can take

2028
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 12: him down again where on a pressure. I think gonna

2029
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 12: make this an absolute dogfight. There's gonna be moments on

2030
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:04,759
Speaker 12: the feet where I'm gonna be holding my breath because

2031
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,360
Speaker 12: Ian can light up a head cake and Blausman head

2032
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 12: kick before so that obviously scares me. But the number

2033
01:37:10,439 --> 01:37:12,960
Speaker 12: on Blao is insane to me. This is a guy's

2034
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 12: a former champion. Before that, he won what eight or

2035
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 12: nine fights in a row. He lost the championship by

2036
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 12: one round, it was two two going in the fifth.

2037
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: People forget that. And he's an absolute.

2038
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 12: Savage and dog and an intelligent fighter with elite cardio,

2039
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 12: an elite coach, and I think he's gonna go in

2040
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 12: there well prepared, and I think he's gonna get the

2041
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,600
Speaker 12: job done. I think he's gonna get a decision to

2042
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 12: win here. I think it's gonna be a very competitive fight.

2043
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 12: I just see Balau being a little more active and

2044
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 12: roughing him up in the grappling. I think Ian's gonna

2045
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 12: have a little bit of trouble with that. So give

2046
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 12: me remember the name blah Mohammed.

2047
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 9: Nicely done on the co main event before he gets

2048
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 9: to the main event.

2049
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 7: I just want to provide a little Ian Mashadow Gary

2050
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 7: context because he is still a good friend of mine

2051
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 7: as well, even if not on the level of Balal

2052
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 7: and Kenny. I know you'll acknowledge this, right that Damian

2053
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 7: Maya influenced, the Diego Lima influenced, the Charles Olavera influence.

2054
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 7: But the appetite for mixed martial arts knowledge right, the

2055
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 7: ability to ingest and then incorporate that knowledge. These are

2056
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 7: some of the things that mak Ian Mashadogary so special

2057
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 7: and largely untouchable as an MMA pro other than the

2058
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 7: Shapcott Rockmanoff fight. Right, he is traversing the earth in

2059
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 7: a married to the game type way, just like Bla

2060
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 7: Mohammad so Muhammad. In this fight, he's he's fighting someone

2061
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 7: who's just as married to the game as him, who's

2062
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 7: working just as hard as he is. And uh, we'll

2063
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 7: see how it goes for inm Shadow Gary near three

2064
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 7: to one this weekend against Blam Mohammed all Right main

2065
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 7: event in the lightweight division, Ar Monsargion minus five point fifty,

2066
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 7: Dan Hooker plus four to ten H plus four ten

2067
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 7: And Cody tells me ninety seven percent of the DraftKings

2068
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 7: sports book handle is on our Monsargian and ninety three

2069
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 7: percent of the bets are on our Monsargian. Like, I

2070
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:54,000
Speaker 7: don't what am I? Why do people not think? Is

2071
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 7: ar Montargyian that good? And I never start the main event?

2072
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 7: Pick this way? Kenny?

2073
01:38:58,360 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 1: You don't?

2074
01:38:59,080 --> 01:38:59,600
Speaker 6: Is I mean?

2075
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 7: Is d Hooker really not not at all competitive? He's

2076
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 7: a twenty two time UFC veterans. What is last three,

2077
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 7: last two wins, split decisions? Jalen Tournament hos Gamaran. I

2078
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 7: thought he deserved the win in both fights. Now a

2079
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 7: chance to become the number one contender. Plus four to ten,

2080
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 7: I mean plus two eighty, okay, plus four.

2081
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 1: Ten, So it's a big number.

2082
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 8: I was surprised by it for Chenny go ahead, Yeah,

2083
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 8: So I was surprised by that number. I think that

2084
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 8: they're probably looking at, you know, the stylistic matchup here

2085
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 8: where Seroukian, Yes, he can strike, he's got some you know, Uh,

2086
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 8: that knockout over Daryush was absolutely devastating.

2087
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:39,080
Speaker 1: Can certainly go that route.

2088
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 6: Uh.

2089
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 8: Seroukian though on a four fight win streak, he has

2090
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 8: been extremely consistent. Dan Hooker maybe not as much, but

2091
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 8: he is on a three fight win streak right now

2092
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 8: as well. So, you know, Hooker is very exciting. He's

2093
01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:54,599
Speaker 8: very dangerous with his striking. He is absolutely massive at

2094
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 8: one fifty five. He's gonna have that reach advantage against Errukian,

2095
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 8: He's gonna have that knee. Serukion tries to come in

2096
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 8: that he's got to watch out for. But I think

2097
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 8: Serukion has faced a lot of tough guys, you know,

2098
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 8: even on his way up, and you know, his last

2099
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:14,160
Speaker 8: one against OLIVERA. You know, so I think that Hooker

2100
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 8: is you know, undervalued here. I definitely think there's some

2101
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 8: value on the underdog pick pick. But I like Serrukion

2102
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 8: in this spot. I think he realizes how close he

2103
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 8: is to the title fight. He had it, let it

2104
01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 8: slip between his fingers, and uh, I think he wants

2105
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 8: it back. And uh, you know, I think he wants

2106
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 8: that fight against Toporia. And not only that, not only

2107
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 8: does he need to win here, he needs to win impressively.

2108
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 8: So give me armand Serukian.

2109
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 7: I think we all think the world of armand Sarakian.

2110
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 7: The latter nine and two in the UFC hasn't fought

2111
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 7: since UFC three hundred last April. That was a split

2112
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 7: decision win over Charles Olivera cared a guess, by the way,

2113
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 7: how many times du Bronx has fought since you have

2114
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:56,719
Speaker 7: three hundred?

2115
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: Can a lot three? Yeah? That's crazy, that's.

2116
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 7: Great, Love you, Charles man. I'm gonna die the ship

2117
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:09,400
Speaker 7: blomb for you, bro. So yeah, but sort of out

2118
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 7: of sight, out of mind in some part. But those

2119
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 7: in the know know just how good he is. Briy,

2120
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 7: you know. But he had an opportunity to fight Islama

2121
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 7: Kashev didn't make it to the scale for whatever reason. Uh,

2122
01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 7: and now in an eliminator here and he's a minus

2123
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 7: five fifty favorite against Dan Hooker.

2124
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 9: Your thoughts, my man, I love the fired up in it.

2125
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: For ten, I mean that's like, well.

2126
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 7: I mean I have to grab my you can't hunt, well,

2127
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,640
Speaker 7: you can't kill T shirt. I mean it's like the

2128
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,920
Speaker 7: first relationships up and down the whole roster.

2129
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 12: But plus ten, I love that reminds me of Jim

2130
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 12: Moore practice like John Annis for ten.

2131
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he wins Dan.

2132
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 12: Or John, Dan Hooker's got to get a four ten

2133
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Speaker 12: tattoo four ten. But I'm on the side of armand here,

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Speaker 12: I think armand cruises.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I think Dan Hooker is fantastic, one of my favorite

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Speaker 12: fighters to watch, But I think he needs to fight

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Speaker 12: guys like Max Holloway for the BMF title. I think

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Speaker 12: a stylistic matchup for him like this is bad. I

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Speaker 12: mean surucine since he got the title shot taking Hi away,

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01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 12: what has he done. He's going out there and just

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Speaker 12: grappled with other high level grapplers and look really good

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Speaker 12: doing it, Like the guy is sharpening his tools. Don't

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Speaker 12: let you see what I mean, he's on social media

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01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 12: eating like fifty thousand dollars worth of cavia a and

2146
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Speaker 12: like two bites proven that he's like a rich kid

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Speaker 12: or whatever. I kind of like that persona. He's leaning

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Speaker 12: into it, I mean, you know, lean into it. I

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Speaker 12: just think he's a special dude, I really do. I

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Speaker 12: think people are standing on him a little bit because

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Speaker 12: he got hurt pulled out of the fight.

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Speaker 1: You know, everyone's making fun of him.

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Speaker 12: Meet a drama, hurts you on whatever because he does

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01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 12: the crazy weird neck warm ups.

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Speaker 1: Either way, I think he's.

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Speaker 12: An elite leaked guy with some high level striking. I

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01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,280
Speaker 12: think Dan Hooker is gonna have some obviously.

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Speaker 1: Abilities to win. He can land in the up the middle,

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Speaker 1: He's got some beautiful strikes. I think it's take down

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Speaker 1: the fences. Okay.

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Speaker 12: I think his get up games good. But we saw,

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Speaker 12: you know, years ago, what Islam did to Dan. He

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01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 12: took his arm and popped that shoulder pretty good, and

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Speaker 12: I think Sirroukine's gonna do the same. Maybe not a

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Speaker 12: kamor maybe not an armed something like that, maybe like

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Speaker 12: a submission. But I like Sarukie big Here. I just

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Speaker 12: loved John's passion.

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Speaker 8: Arman recently submitted Benson Henderson and dominated Yeah domity, Yeah, yeah, No.

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Speaker 9: I'm fascinated to see how it plays out.

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Speaker 7: I really am. But uh gosh, at one hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifty five pounds, with everything that that Dan Hooker has seen,

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Speaker 7: I just didn't expect it to be that wide. You know,

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Speaker 7: I write down sort of a range of what I

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Speaker 7: think the odds are going to be before, you know,

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Speaker 7: I think I wrote minus one seventy five from a

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Speaker 7: shadow Gary. I'm almost a full dollar off there, And

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Speaker 7: I don't even want to tell you what I thought

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Speaker 7: the betting line was going to be for this main event.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, right, I mean that's a tease.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think I had like minus two ten, like

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Speaker 7: plus one eighty. I didn't think, you know, but I guess,

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Speaker 7: but I'm sure I'm too close to it. And again,

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Speaker 7: as I've said repeatedly, I'm not sharp all right. Time

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Speaker 9: Kenny.

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Speaker 7: Yes, if Brian had hit his three leg parlay on

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Speaker 7: bone Nickel Valentina, Chevchenko and Chepe Modascal.

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Speaker 9: Jeffe he'd be in the lead.

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Speaker 1: I know it's insane.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so say what you want about his, however wayward

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Speaker 7: approach late in the year right, But bon Nickeol and

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Speaker 7: Chevchenko obviously came in after the parlay had been ripped

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01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 7: up with Chepe Modaskal, who fought admirably but was no

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01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 7: match for the grappling chops of Pat Sabatini. But that

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Speaker 7: was a three thousand dollars parlay that would have paid

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Speaker 7: plus four thirty seven. You know, kem Flow goes two

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Speaker 7: and three on his five wagers, deficits about eight gram.

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01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 7: But it just goes to show you how quickly things

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Speaker 7: can change. So without further delay, Brian Petri, you have

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Speaker 7: one thousand dollars still within striking distance. How are you

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Speaker 7: choosing to attack the board?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: I usually talk a little too fast for my brandy.

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Speaker 1: Keep up.

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Speaker 12: I did say, Jim mora practice that's obviously Alan Iverson

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Speaker 12: Cody corrected in the chat. Jim Moore was the playoffs. Sorry,

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Speaker 12: I wanted to playoffs. I'm not an idiot, guys, I

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Speaker 12: just sometimes I'm a little too quick.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I hate to do this.

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Speaker 12: I hate to be annoying, John, but I'm gonna I'm

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01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 12: gonna parlay the entire what we just picked. It's gonna

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01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 12: be Ullam beck Off. It's gonna be Almambayev. It's gonna

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01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 12: be Ghaziev. It's gonna be aurabi Ozdemir Muhammad Suerkan four

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Speaker 12: thousand at plus.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight eighteen. Damn it, man, I'm doing it big.

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Speaker 12: This is hot, not how I gamble, but this is

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Speaker 12: how I need to come back.

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Speaker 1: Baby.

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Speaker 12: That's twenty eight k if I hit, and if I'm right,

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Speaker 12: and let's fucking go, baby.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you're sure you don't want to round robin

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Speaker 9: that pig or something.

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Speaker 1: Anybody, we're all in. We're in chips in the middle, Johnny.

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Speaker 9: We're in, Kenny.

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Speaker 7: If you don't know the round robin, that bet right.

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Speaker 7: He just gave out a six leg parlay, Is that right?

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01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 7: Prior seventh ye seven five six seven? He just gave

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Speaker 7: out a seven leg parlay that the ticket. We're gonna

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01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 7: rip it up, right, You're not gonna pick this that?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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01:45:56,880 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 9: So no, I hope you do, but it's right.

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01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,640
Speaker 7: But a round rob and Kenny right would be you

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Speaker 7: create multiple six leg parlay so that he would afford

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Speaker 7: he could lose one of the seven. Yes, so maybe

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01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 7: crunch the numbers on the round Robin Bride.

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Speaker 6: No, just look at it.

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Speaker 9: I'll watch later and just see and Jay can get

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Speaker 9: with you after the bath.

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Speaker 7: I'd hate for you to hit six of seven and

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01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 7: not at least you know it might not be worth

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01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 7: it because you give up a little juice you give

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01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 7: I mean, give up a little money. Then I can't play.

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01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:27,680
Speaker 7: You got a thousand bucks, you got the lead, go ahead.

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01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: Getting getting hot in her.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I'm gonna do a little parlay as well, not

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01:46:33,280 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 8: as ambitious as Bryant's, but I'm gonna do a two

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Speaker 8: hundred dollars parlay Serukian, Alma Baiev.

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Speaker 1: And Uz Demir okay, Okay, gonna do four hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: bet on Ulam beck Off.

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01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,640
Speaker 7: Okay. I put a little two hundred dollars bet on

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01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 7: Spivak and then had a little two hundred dollars bet

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Speaker 7: on Balal.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I have doggies.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, twenty right now that Muhammad number big unbred peetree

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Speaker 7: on behalf of long ago. I'll apologize for being a

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01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,640
Speaker 7: few minutes late to your spot today, but no you

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01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 7: and uh thanks you, Toment always pivoting anything else before

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Speaker 7: we let's fly.

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Speaker 12: Yeah one, Well, two things, John, I'm glad you're feeling better, Kenny.

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01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 12: I hope what you had done works for you, buddy.

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Speaker 12: And then second, my my little girl who's the biggest

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Speaker 12: fan of the show.

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Speaker 1: Now she's five.

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Speaker 12: She turns five today, Hazel Petri's birthdays today, So happy birthday,

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Speaker 12: Hazel Petrie. Her request was for me to hide her

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Speaker 12: presence in the house, so I'm gonna go do that now,

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Speaker 12: so nice.

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Speaker 9: Thank you. Happy birthday, Hazel Petrie.

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Speaker 7: You got a great dad, you got a great mom,

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Speaker 7: and they're about to hide the shit out of those

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Speaker 7: presents for.

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Speaker 1: Awesome.

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Speaker 7: All Right, We got to get on out of here.

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01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 7: Thanks to everybody for being here. A couple of days

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Speaker 7: delayed on the UFC three twenty two recap. We are

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Speaker 7: idle next week for Thanksgiving, which means we are back

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Speaker 7: in your respective lives. I believe on Monday, December first.

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Speaker 7: We'll have some thoughts on Katar and of course we'll

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Speaker 7: get you ready for the Chain pion Ship double header

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Speaker 7: UFC three twenty three. Rob Dwallash, Willie against Pyotr Janakt

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Speaker 7: two and Joshua Van challenging Alessandre Pantosia. Thanks to Ray Petrie,

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Speaker 7: Cody Merrour, producer Jason and behind the scenes for ken

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Speaker 7: fulm John and we will talk to you in a

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Speaker 7: little bit after the American Thanksgiving. Enjoyed the holiday. We

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Speaker 7: will talk to you soon. Until then, thanks for watching

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Speaker 7: them listening. Feel later.

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Speaker 1: Kenny Floyan, I got it, baby, we did