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Speaker 1: Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we died deep deep into the plockets

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Speaker 1: of black conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove

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Speaker 1: that he has called Andre three thousand because there were

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Speaker 1: Scott was, I guess the head writer of the that

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00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: Awards season. And for weeks people would only ask questions

424
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: about that incident because it seemed as if Eminem had

425
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: stormed off in a huff, and then it got so

426
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: I guess sort of like annoying to have to answer

427
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: questions about it that he eventually admitted like a y'all,

428
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: we rehearsed it before it even happened. It's clearly a hoax.

429
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: And then you watch it again and it's like, oh,

430
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: this couldn't have been more stage. They had cameras in

431
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: the aisle prepared to watch Eminem like click like walk out,

432
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: and he's like bad acting, so you can tell he's

433
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, not really upset. Also, no one shot Bruno. Yeah,

434
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: they would have been got. That would have been like

435
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: the one person in Eminem's possitively definitely was caring and

436
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: definitely had the license to go to jail for a

437
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: while because yeah, you know, like that he's got one

438
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: of those people in his crew. And I feel like

439
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: all of what was that? That what you have a

440
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: shooter for in case a German sixty nine on accident.

441
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I feel like all of D twelve is either dead

442
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: or in jail at this point because of that exact reason. So,

443
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: because of Eminem's rightful homophobia in that situation, after years

444
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: of wrong for homophobus. He finally got one right, Man,

445
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: lands on you wearing angel wings and the thong and

446
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: sixty nine you Yes, you can be afraid, you can

447
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: push up a little bit it. I think that's okay.

448
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: It's just sixty nine of both mouth stone engage. All right.

449
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: Now we're asking I think, uh, more pontificating questions, more

450
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: philosophical ones. I guess if we're going on this tangent,

451
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: I feel like once the number sixty nine is somehow emulated,

452
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: it becomes a sixty nine situation. The act of executing

453
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: sixty nine can't be done without both mouth open. But

454
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: I think once you're in the position, it's a physical Yes,

455
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: it's like sixty nine rising. There we go. I like that, Okay,

456
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: I love just like calm. Okay, this was a question

457
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: that I've been looming in your spirit for quite a while. Now, boy,

458
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: you asked no rhetorical questions. But if so, if Eminembo's

459
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: in on it, that's right. I wouldn't put it back.

460
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: If eminem isn't on the for lack of better term,

461
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: gayest he's ever been involved in, I wouldn't put it

462
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: past Taylor to have a slightly or very drunk Kanye

463
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: West just come on stage and rattle her a little bit.

464
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: But to be fair that that that's far more whimsical.

465
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: The sixty nine is like kind of silly and funny.

466
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: That's not like, hey, fuck you, young Starlett Beyonce is

467
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: the greatest ever. I'm ways like the other one seems

468
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: like it has a much darker it's it's it feels

469
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: a lot darker. It feels more malicious for show. So

470
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: so I'll point to another example that this blogger brought up,

471
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: which is the two thousand three kiss between Britney Spears, Madonna,

472
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: and Christina Aguilera, which similarly became like this big, insane

473
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: sort of like incident. Remember this is in the middle

474
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: of the Iraq War and we're still we spent almost

475
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: a year talking about these three ladies tongue kissing. And

476
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: one of the things that I sort of pulled from

477
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: this was this is obviously rehearsed right there, not this.

478
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: They're not presenting this as if like, oh, what a

479
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: spontaneous moment where we're just gonna make out with each other.

480
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: But part of what they're suggesting is the fallout from

481
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: the other people in the room was more the the

482
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: stunt and the staging, or rather lack of staging that's

483
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: being presented to the audience. If people being shocked that

484
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: Brittian Madonna like a well specifically uh, Justin timber Lake

485
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: in the wake of their Brittney Spears and his split

486
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: when they kiss and I went and rewatched it and

487
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite things that I've gotten to

488
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: rewatch in recent history. But they make out and they

489
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: don't even get a chance, and it's so crazy. They

490
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: don't even show Christina Aguilera kissing Madonna because they cut

491
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: to Justin timber Lake too quickly to gauge his reaction

492
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: to what's happening. So you don't even get to see

493
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: all three of them kiss be as you just start

494
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: watching fucking Justin timber like, look real sad while he

495
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: was getting slobbed down by Madonna slobbed down down? When

496
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: did when did Janet Jackson's titty pop out? Oh? That

497
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: was oh good question. This gotta be around the time

498
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: right that was I was in high school. I want

499
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: to say it was two thousand four. I think it

500
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: was after the Brittany kiss, but I'm not a hundred person.

501
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: Olivia just had two thousand four is the super Bowl

502
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: two thousand four? Yeah, all right, I still got it.

503
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: If that if do you think that was staged? I

504
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: think that was stage two? Do you think so? I

505
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: mean Justin really left her out in the cold pretty

506
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: quick though on that literally are figuredly or or both both?

507
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: Like if it, if it was staged? Were they not

508
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: planning on that backlash? Because that ship happened and he

509
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: just like watched his hands and like stuff back. Who

510
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: needed it more? Who needed a titty out more at

511
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: the time? I don't think. I guess I'll take the

512
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: the negative on this. I don't think that Janet's team

513
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: wanted that. No, it was so bad for her so fast. Yeah,

514
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: I I do think there's some possibility that like Justin's

515
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: team could have like constructed this and wanted some version

516
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: of what happened, because it truly didn't hurt Justin Timberlake

517
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: at all until black women asked for accountability like last year,

518
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: but like up through every other time, Justin thrived. He

519
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: fucking his best albums came after that ship. That's what

520
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean about exactly, That's what you did. That's what

521
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean about WHOA. Now we're starting to see a

522
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: theme here. It's making me a little nervous. Yeah, I

523
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: have some test run, but I did he in your

524
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: hand and say something. Wold see if that changes your career.

525
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: You finally found me, brother, Yeah, you just do the

526
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: one rules. You can't wish for more titties. You gotta

527
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: pacify in his mouth the whole time. So so to

528
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: the larger point, some could argue that this, this incident

529
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: of Brittany and Madonna specifically making out, did huge ship

530
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: for for Justine's career. Crimea River had just come out.

531
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: He had just sort of like introduced himself as like

532
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: this new you know, I'm in solo artists, I'm not

533
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: part of in Sync anymore, whatever, whatever, and then this

534
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: elevates him into a much more I guess uh sympathetic

535
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: figure to some extent, because up to then we didn't

536
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: know why they split up. But now this bitch is

537
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: making out with Madonna and he's got a song being

538
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: like she hurt my feelings. Oh boy, look I mean

539
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: that you said. I think you said the key phrase

540
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: or just makes them a sympathetic figure. Mm hmm. Taylor's

541
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: made a sympathy the most sympathetic figure you could possibly

542
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: imagine Uh in front of millions of people, and there's

543
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: no way that Taylor's team, even even if it was

544
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: not stage, which I still think it is, there's no

545
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: way in the back of Taylor's dressing or whatever her

546
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: publicist isn't going yes now that that tem percent just

547
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: turned into a lot of a lot of money, you know,

548
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: Like it's it's crazy how that there's no such thing

549
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: as bad press and that every famous person knows that.

550
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: So for Taylor to just Taylor definitely one in that situation.

551
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: And so if these MTV cases are any inclination, it's

552
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: like they've definitely been studied by these people, like, oh,

553
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: this is how this happened for Uh, justin this is

554
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: what happened for M and m'll it'll do the same

555
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: thing for us. For Taylor, this can't hurt us. So

556
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: buckle up, sister, because you just got You just elevated

557
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: yourself in a way that you didn't even realize. And

558
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: I think probably seven famous came out. That's probably like

559
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: the statue limitations or like the NBA died after that

560
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: and kind of just went right. All right, I can

561
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: finally write my poems about this bitch now. So one

562
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: of the things that you're pointing to, which I think

563
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: ends up coming up a bunch of the blog, is

564
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: that they actually talked about a fact, the fact rather

565
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: that Taylor had incidents in the past where she had

566
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: already staged reaction videos. Specifically, they talk about two thousand nine,

567
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: before the MTV Awards, there was actually a video that

568
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: Taylor posted online when the c m A announcements are happening.

569
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: So the Country Music Award announcements are happening, and she

570
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: puts together this video where she's like sitting in her

571
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: cozy bedroom with her mom and her friends nearby, and

572
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: it's eight thirty in the morning. They're still in their pj's,

573
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: but they just couldn't sleep because they're so excited to

574
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: see the announcement of the CMA nominees. And she's cuddling

575
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: her puppy and she she can't wait. And they say

576
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: that this is completely staged. And part of the reason

577
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: that they say at stage is because that year Taylor

578
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Swift told sold ten million albums. She had sold ten

579
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: million records, which meant there was absolutely no way the

580
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: biggest artist in the world wasn't gonna get nominated for

581
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: the Country Music Awards, like it's all fraudulent, which means

582
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: that if you're willing to do that, are you willing

583
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: to take it a step further? Yeah, I've always considered

584
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Taylor to make the jump, Like every step of her

585
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: career has been super super calculated, right, Like she tried

586
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: to do it in country music, figure figured out she

587
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: could pivot and like took that turn. I I completely believe,

588
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: I completely believe that that that doesn't seemed crazy to

589
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: me at all. I'm not gon say mad at her. Um,

590
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, cold calculating, conniving, billionaire or whatever she is

591
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: now is a fine thing to be. It's just a

592
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: wild step to take, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah,

593
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to be an artist and then also marketing genius, you know,

594
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: especially on your first album, to be able to like

595
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: make that level of like jump, it's it's elite, even

596
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: if it's a smart one and intentional one. That is Ah,

597
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: that is a hell of elape for an artist to make.

598
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: She did it, Yeah, go move. So one of the

599
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: things that they also point to in relation to that

600
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: is the fact that if in or rather if in

601
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: fact Taylor did stage this part of what she's doing

602
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: because she sold ten million albums that year. She is

603
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: literally the biggest artist in the world that year, which

604
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: means that only way to re establish this sort of

605
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: underdog positioning that she sort of like keeps herself into

606
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: being like, I'm just a cute girl trying my best

607
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: in making country songs. I don't know what awards are,

608
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: did I win one? Oh my gosh. Is to make

609
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: this mean black man yell at her in front of

610
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: it exactly, this is not physically scary, but I guess

611
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: compared to her scary black man. Yeah, black man wearing

612
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: a leather jacket and teeth marks in his hair. You

613
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: know that that is It's a perfect counterpoint to who

614
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: she is a person, and if that's what she wanted

615
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: to paint herself as she succeeded. He's also the only

616
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: rapper that could have done it without it being a

617
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: much stranger narrative. Ghost ghost Face cann't go on stage.

618
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: If ghost Face doesn't, they go that cocaine salesman is

619
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: attacking that were a white girl. No, they security him. Yeah,

620
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: ghost Face is going up with two bottles. He's going

621
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: He's going up with a bottle of any that he's

622
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: now made into a chain and really just some type

623
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: of Louis robe. So the last little bit I'll get

624
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: I'll throw in before we have our second break is

625
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: that this in fact was not and I'm sure you

626
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: all remember this. This this was not the first time

627
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: that Kanye had stormed a stage that in two thousand six,

628
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: in fact, he had stormed the MTV e Amaze the

629
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: European the Music Awards and interrupted the sort of like

630
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Video of the Year Awards saying like, hey, this is

631
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: come on, y'all, y'all see what they did. You see

632
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: what I did. I spent a million dollars on my video.

633
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: This is bullshit. Nothing against you personally to European dudes

634
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: who didn't end up becoming big names. But uh, I'm

635
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Kanye West. I should have won this award. And MTV

636
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: was very aware of his potential to do this, which

637
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: means there were either two things that happened. They're fucking

638
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: idiots and presumed that he wouldn't do it twice, or

639
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: they were fully aware of it and we're comfortable with

640
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: him doing it a second time. It's definitely the second one. Clearly, clearly,

641
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: you give you give a Toddler a gun. You gotta

642
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: expect some consequences. You know, someone's getting shot, you know,

643
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: don't I know? You know something, something was gonna happen.

644
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: They already had experience the first time European MTV en

645
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: as whatever. Definitely just like a testing ground. And maybe

646
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: that wasn't That definitely doesn't sound stage. That sounds like

647
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Kanye going, Kanye being mad. He spent a million dollars

648
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: and now he's over in goofy As Europe and to

649
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: Swedish she was about to take an award from him?

650
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: Uh back to you? So does that mean maybe he

651
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: could have run point on it? Maybe he could have

652
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: been like, hey, Taylor, I did this ship in Europe

653
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. How long prior was that? Right? Six?

654
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: I think I think, Uh, I don't know if I

655
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: don't know if that gives him makes him think he's running,

656
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: makes me think he's running point But I definitely think

657
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 1: what you were saying, Langston is that it lets MTV

658
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: know that if we need somebody to do something crazy,

659
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: we know who to call. Let's Taylor, No, Connie did

660
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: this ship. We could get Connie to do it. He's

661
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: already got the president, and he's a perfect person to

662
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: do it right. It's it's then making another another Pirates

663
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: of the Caribbean. You know, they know what Johnny Depp does.

664
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: They they know what that controversy brings. I bet you,

665
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: I bet you if you, if you if you think

666
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: if you fingerprinted that Hennessy bottle, Taylor so singer prints

667
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: would be all over that Hennessy bottle. They were, Man,

668
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: that's the that's the smoking gun Heni bottle. Where's that

669
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: at Some pa got paid minimum wage to break that

670
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: bottle into a million little pieces in the alleys somewhere,

671
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: or or the Taylor Swifts CEO has it framed in

672
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: their in their office, the same way Kim and ray

673
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: J have a sex tape the VHS frame somewhere and

674
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: they're all, that's fun. They're just there's just a man

675
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: who makes more money than everybody involved in this being like,

676
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: thank God for Hennessy. Maybe it is. That would be

677
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: a great Hennessy commercial if we're doing work. It worked

678
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: on me. I'm pretty sure I bought a bottle right

679
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: after Man Hennessey gives you bravery sales through the roof. Yeah,

680
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: I want to do this in life. All Right, We're

681
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: gonna take one more break. We'll be back with more

682
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: than Mesh Pateel and more, my mama told me. And

683
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: we are back. Yeah, We're back here with Morning Mesh

684
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: Ptel more. My mama told me. We're still talking about

685
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: the possibility that Kanye West, Taylor Swift, and some very

686
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: smart white man with a lot of money and a

687
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: lot of evil in his heart playing this entire thing

688
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: that the feud is is a fraud and we were

689
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: all tricked by the MTV and Viacom Corporation, which I've

690
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: been tricked by them before, so it doesn't it doesn't

691
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: shock me. Non union. Wait, one week equals five. I

692
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: don't know MTV, so I in in sort of like

693
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: doing this research ended up coming across this article that

694
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: Billboard wrote ten years after the incident, so it probably

695
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: was twenty nineteen, where they actually revealed a bunch of

696
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: things that we didn't know about that evening. And one

697
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: of the things that they talked about new details that

698
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: sort of emerged from this where producers came forward and

699
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: said that when after the incident transpired, after Kanye goes

700
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: on stage says what he says, Taylor Swift is sort

701
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: of shocked. Beyonce was actually backstage crying. Producers say that

702
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: they found Beyonce with Matthew Knows backstage crying over what

703
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: had transpired, saying she felt so bad for Taylor. And

704
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: then this is a crazy part these sort of like

705
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: lead dude in charge goes to Beyonce and tells her

706
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: that she is actually going to win the big the

707
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: biggest award of the night. Beyonce was planning on leaving

708
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: befo were any of the things finished, and they go

709
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: a chill, We're actually gonna win. And what a magical

710
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: moment it would be if you brought Taylor on stage,

711
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: shouted her out and gave her the moment that was

712
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: taken from her. I mean, that's the nail on the

713
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: coffin to me. Yeah, you know. It was also a

714
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: very smart producer to realize the opportunity that is presented

715
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: for Taylor Swift if if it wasn't planned, that's a

716
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: very smart producer. But knowing MTV, you know, I'm not

717
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: sure if they've got the on their feet thinker minds

718
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: that they would think, let's get Taylor on with Beyonce. Yeah,

719
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 1: that confirms to me. That confirms to me Beyonce is

720
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna win. Beyonce has just been shouted out by Kanye

721
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: washed sitting on tails. It's all too perfect, man, it's

722
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: all too perfect's too nice. It's it's a it's a

723
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: real well knit sweater here, you know. Yeah, it feels

724
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: very it feels very naive on Beyonce. Like I just

725
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: don't see her playing it like that. Oh you're not

726
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: even buying that. She was back there crying and ship. Oh,

727
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: I like you said, robot lady. You think I was like, oh,

728
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm so I one of you known to be so

729
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: flustered she couldn't do her job right. Yeah. She she

730
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: got off that elevator and uh looked gathered as fun. Yeah,

731
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: she's like that ship glad that she didn't have her sister,

732
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,479
Speaker 1: flought her husband, and she looked like she was at

733
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: at an award show. You know. I gotta get on

734
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: that meditation playing that she's on. I think it's called

735
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: powering Down with Me. It's called sweet mode. So here's

736
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: the the other uh the you know, And I was

737
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: sort of on the fence with a lot of these things,

738
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: but this was the piece that really convinced me that

739
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: you might be onto something here in the mesh with

740
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: with your suggestion is that there have been also staff

741
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: members that came forward. This all came in that Billboard article,

742
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: but staff members came forward and said Kanye wasn't even

743
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: supposed to be sitting at the front of the stage

744
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: that night. He was actually seated eleven Rose back eleven

745
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Rose back, but was moved mid show because they wanted

746
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 1: quote unquote more men in front for the camera. Yeah,

747
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: who's ever wanted that? Yeah? Also also that they know

748
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: eleven Rose. There is a lot of Henny steps. Yeah,

749
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: I believe the math is Henny Rose. Yeah, that's a

750
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: long walk if you're on that was Hennis, long enough

751
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: to talk to yourself out of doing some stupid ass

752
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: shit like that. Right, That's that's sort of it's like

753
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: that uh, that fucking uh death move that they do

754
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: and kill Bill. You know, it's like that the fifth step,

755
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: that's the one that gets you eleven Rose. You might

756
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: be able to work your way out of this, but

757
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: your front row, that's you already made your choice. Baby,

758
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: that's eleven rows. By the time you get to the front,

759
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: you realize how bad you gotta pee, Like too much

760
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: stuff happening. That's enough time for people to like stick up.

761
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Like someone be like, hey, Kanye, come on, somebody sees

762
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: him swinging right like drunkenly sauntering up. Somebody's yeah, no

763
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: one can get even get on an earpiece, and like

764
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: someone stopped Kanye. No one's even doing that, right, I

765
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: feel like eleven ros. Kanye goes, hey, should I be

766
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: wearing leather? I'm gonna go home. I'm how this out.

767
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: My nipples are cheap, right, It's switching the whole time.

768
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: This is just adding more points to this was all

769
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: one giant conspiracy man. Yeah, and this one that was

770
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: the one that sort of sold me in into the

771
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: whole thing. And as you mentioned before, this sort of

772
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: argument of the Kanye whatever turning them into heroes, blah

773
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: blah blah. It goes on for a while. This feud

774
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: is made more complicated though, when the debate about the

775
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: song Famous, which came out in Uh sort of pops up.

776
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys remember this debate where Kanye in

777
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: the song says I made that bitch famous, and then

778
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: Taylor comes forward and says, how dare you speak of

779
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: me that way? I'm a I'm a nice young lady.

780
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: I should not be called a bit. And then Kim

781
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: Kardashian comes forward and says Taylor had already consented to

782
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: the lyrics of the song and she had record of it.

783
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: And then those records get released and it becomes an

784
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: even messier conversation because Taylor does in fact laugh when

785
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Kanye is like, yeah, I could still funk Taylor Swift whatever,

786
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: but he doesn't actually tell her that he's gonna call

787
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: her a bit in the song. He says, I made

788
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: that I made her famous in the song, right, So

789
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: was Taylor saying that was Taylor, I've heard the lyrics

790
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: before that I'm fine with it. We we've gone past

791
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: that funny thing that we did before. And then she

792
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: came out saying, I'm so shocked that stood. So Taylor

793
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: Taylor did I think some classic white woman ship where

794
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: she the first response she had was how offensive this

795
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: song is. I'm shocked that he would do this. This

796
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: is wrong. And then Kim was like, bitch, we already

797
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: played you the song, or we we told you the

798
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: lyrics of the song rather, and we have it on tape.

799
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: And then those tapes got released and Taylor goes, well, yeah,

800
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I did consent to this part of the song, but

801
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: it was being called a bit that I took issue with,

802
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: and I never consent to do that. Kim then goes, yes,

803
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: you did, but then the record show she did not,

804
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 1: in fact consent to be calling a bit. Who's who's

805
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: got these records? That's the crazy part, right, is that

806
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: that no one to this day knows who released the

807
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: video of them sort of having this phone conversation. There

808
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: we go, Now, okay, now we're playing tell me more.

809
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm listening on I don't you think she does anything

810
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: that's not recorded? Sure? Yeah, yeah, come on, it's all

811
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: this massiveminded, calculated thing. I wouldn't be surprised if ten

812
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: years from now we found out Kim was behind the

813
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Kanye ship that Kanye interrupted Taylor Swift like, obviously, I'm kidding,

814
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't if that, if that came out, I

815
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. Don't you walk this back, you coward.

816
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: You know I understand me. I am also nervous to

817
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: talk about the mighty Kardashian empire. Yeah, I just think

818
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: if Kim is showing receipts, then it's all been a

819
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: calculated thing, you know, like that All the Power tour,

820
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: She's figured out how to get exactly what needs to

821
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: happen in front like press wise whatever, all the power

822
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: to or for having done that, But it just makes

823
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: me think nothing, none of this is not calculated. And

824
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: it just so happened that Kanye's album was coming out.

825
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: Then oh, let's just record the conversation we have because

826
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: when Kanye's album comes out, we'll have a few more

827
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: things to talk about once the fervor about the album

828
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: dies down. So I think, I think in even if

829
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: you're you're not as masterminding as as they probably are.

830
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: Like in a in a in a not ideal world,

831
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: Taylor goes, I love the lyrics, they're gorgeous. Please release

832
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: the song and it's a charming tidbit you have for

833
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: social media when it comes out. In an imperfect world,

834
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: Taylor goes, that's fucking evil and you're a mean man.

835
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 1: And then you get to go, bitch, we already told

836
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: you and you're you're a scoundrel too. The psych that's

837
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: another that's another step on the cycle. If you if

838
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: you do the first thing, it's like that's like the

839
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: media cycle only last for one, Oh, Taylor like the song.

840
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: You say, Taylor doesn't like the song? You could do.

841
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: I didn't know what the song was about. Well you did,

842
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: and you could argue about that, and that keeps the

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Speaker 1: ship playing the on the airwaves, you know, which is

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Speaker 1: exactly how it ended up playing out in real life.

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Speaker 1: They released it sort of like week by week we

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Speaker 1: discovered new information about what they knew and didn't knew,

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Speaker 1: and who had consented and who hadn't. Ultimately landing on

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Speaker 1: you know, a great goddamn song where two artists call

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Speaker 1: each other bitches and say they would suck each other

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Speaker 1: off and stuff. Well, that's it. I think we did it.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think you know. The big takeaway, if

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Speaker 1: I if I can land one, is that whether or

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Speaker 1: not this was in fact officially staged, everybody benefited and

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Speaker 1: probably has learned how to stage stuff for the future.

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Speaker 1: I took notes. Yeah, Step one Hennessy. Step one is titty.

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Speaker 1: Step two is Hennessy. What happens after that is up

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Speaker 1: to the tity, and you know that the cities in

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Speaker 1: Hennessey do the work. After that, there's a self driving

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Speaker 1: car after that. Well, this is great Nemesicould you tell

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Speaker 1: the people where they can find you on? What cool

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Speaker 1: ship do you have going on? Oh? Thank you man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Yes, you can find my

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Speaker 1: special Thank You China on YouTube and you can find

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Speaker 1: me on tour. I'll be at a bunch of probably

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Speaker 1: at in Atlanta this weekend at Bucket Theater, Wilbur Theater

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Speaker 1: next weekend, uh, Seattle, Portland, bunch of theaters there, Hollow

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Speaker 1: at Me and DC Warner Theater in November. Uh. But

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Speaker 1: check out my special Thank You China on YouTube. Please?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, watch the special. It's so funny. And go

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Speaker 1: see him on tour. That'd be fucking great. And Bory,

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Speaker 1: you want to tell the people where they can find you?

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Speaker 1: Oh official David Bory. Dot com has got all my dates.

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Speaker 1: It's really important to the podcast. And as always, you

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Speaker 1: to send us drops if you want to send us

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Speaker 1: your own conspiracy theories. If you want to complain about

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