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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Friday, July thirtieth, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number five. It is a day nine of training camp.

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Speaker 1: Here on the break. We've got Dave Hellman, We've got

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Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, and we got our buddy Brian broad est Man.

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Speaker 1: When I when you first mentioned on on Twitter that

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Speaker 1: you might be around and uh and and offered very

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Speaker 1: graciously to come and join us, I was really excited

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Speaker 1: because I haven't been able to be on air with

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Speaker 1: you for in a long time. And you're you're no

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Speaker 1: obviously no no stranger to our show. All these guys

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Speaker 1: we've done this for many many years, have so good

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Speaker 1: to have you man. Thank you. I appreciate that I've

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Speaker 1: been just a couple of tenths down from you guys,

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Speaker 1: but still admiring the work and all that you guys do.

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Speaker 1: A heck of a job, and it's it was a

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Speaker 1: different avenue for me to go. But it's nice to

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Speaker 1: see you guys continuing to just push on the way

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Speaker 1: you do and lead the NFL the way you do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because you guys that don't know Brian, like

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Speaker 1: literally he got out here and by day what was it,

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Speaker 1: like day two of practice, you're sending me practice knows, Like,

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Speaker 1: here's some things you can watch. I'm like, Brian does

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Speaker 1: not change. He always looking out for his teammates. Man,

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Speaker 1: always looking out for steammate. I appreciate that. I was

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Speaker 1: very sad that this is my last day, you know

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Speaker 1: with the station, and you're so used. You get into

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Speaker 1: that routine where you you know, you're like, okay, this

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Speaker 1: you're getting that routine. Lest they hear, yeah, last day

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Speaker 1: for me here. Yeah. The way he said that was,

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Speaker 1: is it my last day with the station? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're breaking news, but uh no, but last day, that

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Speaker 1: last day, last day with it, you know, and that

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Speaker 1: part of it's gonna be sad for me because again,

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Speaker 1: and this is where I'm gonna have to lean on

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Speaker 1: you guys, because you do such a great job of

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Speaker 1: covering the team. The way you do it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a standard that's like no other. But yeah, when you

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Speaker 1: when you you get in that rhythm of practice and

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Speaker 1: interviews and talking to people and hey, wait, something happened,

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Speaker 1: got to get this source over here, and you know

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Speaker 1: you're kind of you know, doing all that. That's that's

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Speaker 1: the great thing about Camp And just to kind of

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Speaker 1: because it is it's been such a part of our

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Speaker 1: kind of and Brian's like, absolutely not. What are these

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Speaker 1: I you know, but I know I'm dealing with some veterans.

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Speaker 1: Guys have been ahead of the whole time, the fifteen

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Speaker 1: a better understanding of how the season could probably play out.

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Speaker 1: And you don't realize how much you really need that

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Speaker 1: the backup look like? Nick? What have you seen from

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Speaker 1: we know what happened with him, Dak Prescott. Dak Prescott another. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did not come into this training camp feeling that

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Speaker 1: great about what they had at cornerback, and I think

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Speaker 1: so far, even guys I wasn't necessarily expecting anything from

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Speaker 1: Mike Kennedy um have shown up and have played really well.

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Speaker 1: I would. I would have loved to see them with

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Speaker 1: a Mari out there. That's just one more really great

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Speaker 1: receiver that they would have to deal with. But but

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Speaker 1: all things being considered, I think this cornerback group has

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Speaker 1: far exceeded any expectations I have for them. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean know that's gonna contradict what you say, but the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver position from the depth of it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, no, it's top heavy, but you know, with

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Speaker 1: a Mari being out, I think when you look at

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Speaker 1: some of these receivers on the back end, I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see how it shakes out

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Speaker 1: with special teams. Uh seventeen Turner Turner, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was really surprised he even got resigned. He kind

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Speaker 1: of got phased out of the team last year and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now he's back. He's playing well. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be tough to keep Noah Brown

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Speaker 1: at two billion dollars a year just for special teams

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Speaker 1: in the fifth receiver, but you know he's playing. He's

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Speaker 1: played pretty well too. And I know Daklack's thrown to him.

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Speaker 1: Has Micah Parsons been the best defensive player in camp. No,

447
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Speaker 1: but it's close. It's better Randy m He's been good.

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Speaker 1: I think my Mica and he looks great. I've already

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Speaker 1: started to eat some crow on that, like, he looks fantastic.

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Speaker 1: But I do think he still falls into that category

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Speaker 1: of he's in a spot where it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: easier for him to make splash players from time to time.

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Speaker 1: When you factor in the rushing and some of the

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Speaker 1: others fun stuff that they have him doing. I think

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Speaker 1: he's been the most impressive because of you think about

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Speaker 1: the learning curve as a good that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's not like Randy's been out

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Speaker 1: there a ton either in his five or six years.

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Speaker 1: So this is you know, this is great for both

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Speaker 1: of them. You guys know it a training camp. You

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Speaker 1: tend to take for granted the guys who have been here,

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Speaker 1: and not to say Randy's just been here, but you

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Speaker 1: know Randy, right, It's Parsons is something that's new. It's

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Speaker 1: like what we're talking about earlier with Tyren Smith, like

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Speaker 1: sometimes you kind of just take it for granted. Well,

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Speaker 1: Tyrn's doing what Tyron does and you don't even think

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Speaker 1: about how great he's been. But he's just doing what

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Speaker 1: he does, so so you don't put him in the

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Speaker 1: same category to say a ceede lamb, who's a little

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Speaker 1: bit newer, right, um, And so I think it's that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing like Parsons just newer. And so for me,

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Speaker 1: he stood out more because he's newer. But if you

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Speaker 1: really evaluate it, I kind of agree it's Randy. Randy's

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Speaker 1: been the guy that's probably been most oppressive defensively. You

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Speaker 1: know what sucks about these games, I don't always don't

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Speaker 1: get to answer you. You do get to you just

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Speaker 1: don't like like that's the thing you're asking these questions,

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Speaker 1: but if you want to hear your answers. But because

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Speaker 1: I say that, because I do it in a way

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Speaker 1: that I do believe he's been the best defensive players.

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Speaker 1: So if I ask yeah, I means you're kind of thinking, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: you can kind of pick up on what Brian's thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to kid like he's leading you down

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Speaker 1: the past, so you can slam I played Perry Mason

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Speaker 1: with you here. I know the answer already as you speak. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: does Blake Jarwind need be worrying about his starting job?

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Speaker 1: Apparently he does ll yes, Because we've been talking about this.

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Speaker 1: I've been a big proponent of fact that I think

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Speaker 1: I think Schultz is just as good, if not better,

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Speaker 1: just my opinion. I just don't care because this is this,

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Speaker 1: This isn't Jason Witten. We're talking about, like neither one

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Speaker 1: of them is gonna play ninety nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: snaps and never come off the field like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do some twelve personnel. They can rotate these guys. They'll

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Speaker 1: probably both play north of sixty percent of the snaps

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Speaker 1: or something. Oh maybe not that high, but like they'll

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Speaker 1: both have a healthy percentage. I don't care who's on

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Speaker 1: the field for the first snap. I think they're both

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Speaker 1: going to be very involved. It's not really an answer.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, whatever, Well, I mean it makes sense. It's

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Speaker 1: not like where I'm talking about quarterback or say, it's

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Speaker 1: like the loser of this battle is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: on the bench all year. They're both gonna play. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I threw a lot of dirt on Dalton Schultz, by

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Speaker 1: the way, to the point where he blocked me on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I think we all do not that much. Blocked on

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Speaker 1: Twitter by Dalton Schultz. Yeah, I'm the radio. I threw

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Speaker 1: a lot of dirt on him, and he had a

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Speaker 1: great season last year for him, and I think the

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Speaker 1: question when I'm talking to people just how how much

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Speaker 1: he could stretch the defense. Yes, he's turned around, he's

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Speaker 1: getting eight and ten twelve yards. That's great first down, right,

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Speaker 1: but can he extend the defense like Jarwin has? And

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Speaker 1: so far we've seen some of that. So if he

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Speaker 1: does that, then yeah, I think it is going to

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Speaker 1: be a tough competition. Okay, I was told this. If

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Speaker 1: I told you, when the lights come on, DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: will be ready to go. How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 1: When you you're saying Tampa, yeah, those lights. If DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence doesn't get a game rep until Tampa, I'm I

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Speaker 1: don't care. It's fine with me. He looks he looks

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Speaker 1: fine out there. He looks like he looks a lot slimmer.

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Speaker 1: He looks slim as hell. He looks like he's in

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Speaker 1: good condition. He's back in a scheme that he's familiar with.

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, he knows what dan Quinn wants from him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, would you prefer him to get a little work,

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Speaker 1: of course, But if he's not, if he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: do anything until Tampa Bay, I'm fine. I'm fine with

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Speaker 1: that too, But my preference would be go out there,

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Speaker 1: do three or four pass rushes against Jacksonville and get

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Speaker 1: out of there and get ready for the season. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of players on this team that I

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Speaker 1: would feel great about them doing nothing until Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 1: He's one of them. I don't worry about DeMarcus, but

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Speaker 1: I will outthrow this question back at you, Brian. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what were your thoughts of how because this is something

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Speaker 1: that's kind of a flashpoint for a lot of fans,

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Speaker 1: how DeMarcus played last season. See, I thought that to

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Speaker 1: me when you start talking about complete defensive ends, don't

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Speaker 1: we all focus on the sacks and things like that.

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Speaker 1: We focus on the money. But and I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about look at pro football focuses numbers and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But if you watch how you play, how do you

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Speaker 1: take on blocks, how do you get rid of blocks,

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Speaker 1: how do you make plays you know, tackles behind the line,

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Speaker 1: how do you get pressures? You know? How do you

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Speaker 1: run down to play from the backside. These are things

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Speaker 1: that if you know you get game passed, you can

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Speaker 1: watch your own eyes. Do you go back and you

550
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Speaker 1: could watch him and it's like, oh, he didn't get

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Speaker 1: the sack, but he forced the guy to make a

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00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: bad throw. You know, I felt like that, you know.

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Speaker 1: He I thought he played really, really, really well. And

554
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Speaker 1: but people are gonna blast him because of the money

555
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That's just the way it is. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have twelve and a half sacks, you know,

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Speaker 1: and all that. I know, it's a complete player that

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Speaker 1: you're looking for right here. So be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: If he can complete play and Randy Gregory can have

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Speaker 1: all the sacks, I'd be totally okay with Yeah. I'd

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Speaker 1: be totally okay with that. Yeah, that's the DeMarcus Lawrence. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus ware and greg Ellis type combination. Right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would be. I would like to see Lawrence get

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Speaker 1: some work. I'm a little bit worried about the first

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Speaker 1: game being outdoors in Tampa with the heat and humidity,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and I worry about wearing down in

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Speaker 1: that game and not being in game shape. That's my

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Speaker 1: only concern about him. Not get quarterback is good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he yes, it is good. Well, the thing that helps

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Speaker 1: him is they have they're gonna have two weeks back

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Speaker 1: in Dallas and hopefully hopefully. Yeah, they spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of that time outdoors yet used to the humidity, getting

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Speaker 1: used to the heat, because out here is you're not

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Speaker 1: getting no no, this is a perfect place to ever

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Speaker 1: practice football. Grass field, it's somewhat grass and then and

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Speaker 1: then the outdoors, the conditions and stuff like that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: uh more oppressive Maurice Kennidy or Malik Turner, Andy Kennedynny's

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Speaker 1: really good. I mean Turner Turner has been, you know,

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Speaker 1: good playing and they're both very similar. They're gonna help

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Speaker 1: you one special teams. But if they can show a

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Speaker 1: little bit of their own position to show you know

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Speaker 1: that's not just a CJ. Goodwin that they're not going

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Speaker 1: to really play out there. But if he can play, Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: if he can play, so they're both good. But I

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Speaker 1: go with Kennedy. He's made. He's he's actually stepping in

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Speaker 1: as a starter on the in the slot and he's

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Speaker 1: getting a couple of picks. Yep, he's getting his hands

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Speaker 1: on the football. Which Malik Turner's gotten some run with

589
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: the starters too, because he was fourth and two into practice.

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00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: The other day they ran sprint ride option with Dak

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Speaker 1: and who'd he throw the ball to on fourth and two,

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Speaker 1: he looks throw it to Cede Lamb. He threw it

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Speaker 1: to Turner on the out He looks for seventeen a

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Speaker 1: lot he does like his first like he probably his

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Speaker 1: best throw a camp to date was like day one,

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Speaker 1: down the far sideline and found Turner on like a

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Speaker 1: crossing route. Is Cedric Wilson safe to make this team? See?

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Speaker 1: It feels like we kind of well, wow, that okay.

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Speaker 1: Even Derek thinks you're dumb for even asking. Yes. See,

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Speaker 1: that's where I kind of with you on this. I

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00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: know he's not. He's not allow the money, follow the money.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would be Noah Brown though, right, Noah Brown,

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Speaker 1: I would be more concerned about him than Cedric Wilson.

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Speaker 1: It depends on who bones Fossils wants, Right, that's that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be sure. That's gonna be if you're following the money,

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown's the guy you should be. Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: is it two million dollars tender for Wilson? Like two

608
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: point one I think or maybe one point nine yeah,

609
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Speaker 1: or something like that. But yeah, I I to me

610
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Speaker 1: when when we came out here, I was thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: do you carry six? Because scouts from office always likes

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Speaker 1: to protect the draft. You see, Simmy makes a catch,

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Speaker 1: Simmy makes a catchy, Simmy has that mean. Turner's done

614
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Speaker 1: more things than Simmy heads. So now you're starting to think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they keep five or they keep six, you know, all right,

616
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Speaker 1: but then which And the thing with Cedric is just

617
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: he does so much like he's your fourth receiver. It's

618
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: two for two throwing the ball last year, he sure

619
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Speaker 1: was has a touchdown pass. He's he's one a on

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Speaker 1: as a punt returner and might even be depending on

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Speaker 1: the situation. They'd probably send him out ahead of CD

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Speaker 1: if it was like a situation where they're not looking

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Speaker 1: for a return. He's currently one of your starting flyers

624
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Speaker 1: on punt punt punt team, like he's out there, so

625
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: they're expecting a lot of him. And just that versatility

626
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Speaker 1: makes me think that he's probably safe. And look, no

627
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: disrespect to Lak Turner, he looks great. But yeah, we

628
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Speaker 1: do the same, you see, That's what I'm saying. The

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Speaker 1: first thing I thought of was lance Lenore. Yet I

630
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Speaker 1: thought a Lance Lenore every receiver that's ever. But the

631
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Speaker 1: thing about Turner, he started three games in the NFL

632
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Speaker 1: in Seattle. I mean he's made starts. He's all the

633
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Speaker 1: way back to Jamaica. Rector, he could do that now,

634
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: he could do that. He could he could go all

635
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: the way back on you. Okay, Uh, would you be

636
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: okay with with Basham and Armstrong as your backup defensive ends?

637
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm all right with that as of now. Yeah, I think,

638
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: so what other choice do I have? I mean Bradley

639
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: and I Yeah, he's been he's been injured. We're gonna

640
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: get We're gonna get to Bradley and I. You know this,

641
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: this coaching staff seems to have and not dealing this

642
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: coaching staff, even the last coaching staff, there's something about

643
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong that they just kind of like, I think

644
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: and and coaching staff. Yeah, it's one named Jerry can remember.

645
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: Armstrong's good. Yeah. I mean I just I think that

646
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that that that they like

647
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: a little bit and not Honestly, I don't think he's

648
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: disappointed on the field. I think, yeah, I played okay,

649
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: I think I think watching him play, I'm more comfortable

650
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: with that. I was like, I was always really pushing

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: hard for Bradley and I wanted to see because I've

652
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: seen his tape at Utah. I know Dave's watched his

653
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: tape at Utah and stuff. I had a lot of

654
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: hope for him, I really really did. But Armstrong is

655
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: shown up. I mean they've used him in a couple

656
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: whether it's right or left. I mean they've run him

657
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: on some twist games. He's able to get home. He

658
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: was out in coverage one day exactly. I mean, so

659
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: you know these guys, there's some comfort there. I mean

660
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: I've seen him go against Collins and actually have some

661
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: good reps. So yeah, I'm more comfortable with Basham and

662
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Armstrong than I was because I was searching who is

663
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: going to be the backup defensive ends. I don't know.

664
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this, but there's an

665
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: unhealthy dynamic between what we do with the draft show

666
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: and when you come time for August, because you know,

667
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: you study the draft. Bradley and I as a hell

668
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: of a player, like he's a Senior Bowl MVP. He

669
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: was a big time player in a major conference. But

670
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: you followed the fifth round for a reason, and it

671
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: reminds me of Jabril Cox. You know, steal of the draft,

672
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: played great at LSU, made this jump from North Dakota State,

673
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: and like, and then people get frustrated because they're like, well,

674
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: you said he's amazing, why isn't he out here doing stuff?

675
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, he's behind the twelfth overall pick, the

676
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteenth overall pick from a few years ago, the

677
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: seventy million dollar man, and the pro bowler who came

678
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: from Atlanta with Dan Quinn, Like, where where do you

679
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: want him to go? What do you want against grown men?

680
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: It is everybody here is good, right, yeah? And it

681
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: like I almost like you got to reset your expectations

682
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: from the for the draft picks. As soon as they're picked,

683
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: you're like, we feel really good about this, but like

684
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: now you're here and it doesn't matter anymore. And that's

685
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: why I say that, because and and you know, maybe

686
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Bradley and I'll show something, especially you know, he didn't

687
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: have a chance to get into preseason games last year.

688
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll get out there and just wreck shop. But

689
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: I think the expectation of people who follow the draft

690
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: versus the reality they just don't match up. Right now, Well,

691
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: we talk about what a good pick it was with Cox.

692
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: You get a guy that can cover. We were worried

693
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: about run defense. That was something coming into camp that

694
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: I was going to keep my eye. How could he play?

695
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Can he get off blocks? And he? Shit? The problem

696
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm having with him, he's not even lining up on

697
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: special teams. He's they're not they're not They're not putting

698
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: him on the He's a scout team cover guy. He's

699
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: a scout team punt guy. He's not being given a

700
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities, not at all. So but that but

701
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: that doesn't make him a bad pick, not at all.

702
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: Hard to adjust to the end, No, no, but I

703
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: was kind of hopeful that that they would find a

704
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: way to get him on the field. Yeah, that hasn't

705
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: happened yet. Okay, speaking of getting on the field, But

706
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: the guys without sponsors, you know that's my thing, right, Yeah,

707
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: they have to have a sponsor to make these teams sometimes.

708
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, Reggie Robinson, Bradley and I who's in the

709
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: biggest trouble of the guys without sponsors? Of the three

710
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: that you just well, why do you why do why

711
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: don't they have sponsors just because the coaching sta Yeah yeah,

712
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: but I mean Will Will and his guys are all still.

713
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: These are the coaches, are the ones that will step up.

714
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: A scout will even tell you. The scouts say, listen,

715
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if we're here. I think Hill has

716
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: some sponsors. I do. I feel like I've heard his

717
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: name a lot that the people try to tell me

718
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: how great he played, like he was a guy, remember

719
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: that the whole thing. Yeah, I thought he played solid

720
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: last year was coming on. He looked like he was

721
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: with some go on a little but I mean, he's

722
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna be probably on pop. That's so I was about. So,

723
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Speaker 1: first of all, I agree with you just from being

724
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: around I think the interior perception of Tristan is different

725
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: than the exterior perception. But and this sucks for Tristan,

726
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: but maybe he's in a situation where he won't be

727
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: ready anyway, and so it's not even you know, maybe

728
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: you stash him on a list when the season starts.

729
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm not he seems like he's still got some work

730
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: to do before he's ready to play, so that that

731
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: might be well. Robertson's the one guy's plays Robinson shown

732
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: you anything. Yeah, that was the one. I was going

733
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: to say that to me is the way. I think

734
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: that's the answer to your question, because he's been out

735
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: there and I really haven't seen much good there. There

736
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: have been plays where I've seen him. He's the guy

737
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: that's that's clapping after the play. But in a corner

738
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: back group where you got a lot of competition right

739
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: now and a lot of guys who were making splash plays,

740
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: he's not one of them. So I think right now,

741
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: if I had to pick one of those three, I

742
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: would say it would be him because I just haven't

743
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: seen him do anything that a lot of other guys

744
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: this position are doing. I think the same applies to

745
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: an eye, and I agree with you about Reggie. I

746
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: think the same applies to an eye for the same reason, Brian,

747
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: just like I think Dorn's Armstrong and Terrell Basham are

748
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: going to be on this team right and obviously so

749
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: are Randy and Tank and now, so that's for right there.

750
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: How many are you gonna keep? And don't forget about

751
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: Jahncy Golston. They're not cutting a third round pick. I

752
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: don't care what he does out here, They're not gonna

753
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: cut him. You know. Reggie, Robinson, Bradley and I they've

754
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: played as many preseason games as we have, you know,

755
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: so they they your point, want them to kind of

756
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: see that they haven't gotten that opportunity. They're going to

757
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna, they're gonna get out there. So it's but

758
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: how many for Robinson, how many special teams players can

759
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: you keep that are kind of special teams? I think

760
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: Goodwin's making it, Kennedy's probably making it too, you know,

761
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: and and then Noel Brown on that side, or Turner.

762
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: It's such a sorry, it's such a relief to know

763
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 1: we have these games though as like last year, this

764
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: would not this is not a premature conversation last year,

765
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: because this is just all we have to go on.

766
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: Right to go back to Lance Lenore, you know, he

767
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: was he was the stud of camp for like two

768
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: years running and until they put him in back there

769
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: against the Rams to feel punch, so they put him

770
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: in a game. Period. And so our opinions are going

771
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: to drastically change from Canton from Phoenix and hopefully for

772
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: the better, but maybe for them. All that takes is

773
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: one sack by Bradley and I absolutely screaming off the edge,

774
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: just you know, just bury some quarterback and on and

775
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: we'll be in here Monday and somewhere else. He's on

776
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: the team. Rad Sham brought up George Selvey the other

777
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,279
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778
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: he did in the Hall of Fame game. I mean

779
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: that was eight years ago, but that stuff matters. Selvey.

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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to take our final break. When

781
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782
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Speaker 1: you guys, particularly Brian, before you head out of training camp.

783
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Speaker 1: We're gonna go through the positions and I'm gonna have

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785
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843
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: and fullbacks. Brian, you up. Yeah. I think the thing

844
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: is that they're trying to find ways to incorporate more

845
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: of Tony Pollard onto the field. And I think that's

846
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: a good thing, and it's not something that happens all

847
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: the time, but it's just not the normal Okay, go

848
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: in there and spelled Zeke. It's like it's like Zeke

849
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: on the field Pollard, whether it's split slot, I mean, backfield.

850
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: They're trying to find ways. This team's did a really

851
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: good job. I felt like the screen passes that they've run,

852
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: they've been able to kind of shake him loose and

853
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: Zeke loose a couple of different times. This coach has

854
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: a history of playing with a fullback, which is interesting.

855
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have a John Coon or somebody

856
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: like that here that he's had in the past. But

857
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see if, in fact they do try

858
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: and carry one or find one to bring in. But

859
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: I do like what I've seen with the two running

860
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: backs and how they've been able to corporate both those guys.

861
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: McCarthy actually had a really interesting quote yesterday. He was

862
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: asked about keeping a fullback, and he talked a lot

863
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: about how much more they want to run a two

864
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: back offense this year, and he was talking about it

865
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: in the context of having a fullback. But I was

866
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: just thinking about Pollard the whole time he was talking,

867
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 1: because I think that's that's one of the most important

868
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: challenges for his coaching staff this year, is to find

869
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: ways to have him be a bigger part of this thing,

870
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: because he needs to be. And I mean, you know,

871
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: I know Zeke's gonna be the bell cow and he

872
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: should be. I'm looking at Pollard's snap counts from last

873
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: year and other than the game that Zeke didn't play,

874
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: it hovered between like twenty two and thirty three, and

875
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: that's that's gotta be that's gotta be more. And so

876
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: that's I think that's that's like line one for Kellen

877
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: Moore honestly, because like we I mean, Amari and Lamb

878
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: and got like all those guys are gonna be out there,

879
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: but you got to find a way to use that

880
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: more often as you've got nine guys that are going

881
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: to be out there a lot. Five five Lineman, dak

882
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: zeke uh and then I would say CD and Cooper.

883
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: So that's nine. What do they do with those other spots?

884
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: You know what? What what are they gonna do with?

885
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: Is it two tight ends? Is it one tight end

886
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: and gallop? It's is it Gallop and Pollard? Is it

887
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: a fullback? That's the key Schulton in that in that

888
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: mix two. So um, you know, I don't know if

889
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: that really answers your question, but I do think that

890
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: that's that's going to be the key is where do

891
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: they feel like they can they can run the ball

892
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: the most or just move the offense. You know, he

893
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: said he wants thirty thirty plus rushes a game. Well,

894
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: you know that's really on Kellen Moore. In this offense,

895
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: they've struggled out of the gate. The best way to

896
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: get a lead is to score in the first half,

897
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: and you struggle early, then then you're you're, you know, you're,

898
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: you're always playing the scrambling from behind. So I think

899
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: preparation from Wednesday to Saturday needs to be better. That

900
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: starts with Kellen Moore. That starts with the offense. They've

901
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: got to be better to get leads early in the

902
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: game so they can run the ball. You're going to

903
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: your point about who they're gonna put out there. I

904
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: think it's gonna vary by the game. They talked a

905
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: lot about there and though that opening press conference. They

906
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: want to play match up football, and so every week

907
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: they want to be able to go in and say

908
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: where can we get our best matchup? So there maybe

909
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: some weeks where twelve personnel is there is their great

910
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: matchup for that week. There are other weeks that they

911
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: can use Tony Pollard a lot. So I think it'll

912
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: vary from week to week and you'll see a different

913
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: guy kind of stepping into an X factor role if

914
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: you want to put it like that. Each week. Oh,

915
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I hope it's I hope you're right.

916
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: I hope it anges every week and it's not just

917
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: we do what we do. Well, that's the way they're talking.

918
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: We'll see if it actually turns out like that. All right,

919
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: let's move on to the wide receiver. I'm gonna say

920
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver slash tight end. Give me something that you've

921
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: either notice or something that you're you know that you

922
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: you think you've learned about that position group. Nick I

923
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: mentioned receivers earlier as a as a spot that I

924
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: thought that they've got some depth. They're gonna have some

925
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: good decisions to make. We know in the preseason game,

926
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna, you know, catch our eye a little bit more.

927
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean anxious to see some of those guys at

928
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: the back end they're gonna get to play. M Mitchell

929
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: Osirius Mitchell fourteen eighty, Brandon Smith. I'd like to just

930
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: see see those guys. I think they've got something, as

931
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: Devil point out, and he's not wrong. We see this

932
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: every year. There's always going to be a guy or

933
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: two like that. But but I am anxiously because they

934
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: they went with a theme when they signed these free agents.

935
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: It's like you've played basketball at some point in your life,

936
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: you can definitely duncan alley. You've got big, tall, strong guys,

937
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: and so that's the targets that look before. Let's see

938
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: how they playing games, right, Yeah, I think I'm gonna

939
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: focus on the tight end aspect. They've got three guys

940
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: I think that are all downfield players and including McKeon

941
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: in there, you know who is going to be the

942
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: blocker of this group if there is a commitment to

943
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: trying to run the football and trying to have that

944
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: surface I'm talking about and trying to be point of attack. Yeah,

945
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: exactly sprinkled. Ye see, that's what I'm saying that that

946
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: that's who is that guy? I think they've got guys

947
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: that are that are catchers. I don't think they have

948
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: any blockers, and so you know they got it thirteen personnel. Yes,

949
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: they put three tight ends out there and still got

950
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: knocked back. You know, you can't have that. And so

951
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: if there's a commitment, they're either they're gonna have to

952
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: work the waiver wire, claim a guy whatever. But man,

953
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: they do not have any blockers currently on this team.

954
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: They play tight end. There's an answer there, just don't

955
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: run thirteen personnel. It sucks, it's bad. It's the worst

956
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: personnel grouping in the in football, So don't do it. Um,

957
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give some love to the Michigan man. How

958
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: about Sean mccun like ever, I mean, and Chelton jar

959
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: would have looked good, but so is he. He made

960
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: He made the catch of the day yesterday, one handed

961
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: diving catch. They use him a lot, you know, the

962
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: the dak waggle roll out and just kind of chuck

963
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: it to the tight end coming across the flat, and

964
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: he's been doing a lot of that. Um. He made

965
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: the team as an undrafted free agent last year. I

966
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: think he's gonna make it again, which I guess I

967
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: didn't think was a given when I got here. But

968
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: he sure looks like he belongs on the roster. To me,

969
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel that really, it pisses me off when they

970
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: do that because they just put the tight ends in there.

971
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's like you're just you're You're like, yeah,

972
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: let's get in my phone booth. I don't want to

973
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: play a phone. You guys watch UFC, No, not really.

974
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't really watch that much either, but I know this.

975
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: I know this. No, I mean, I've seen it enough

976
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: to know. You got strikers. You got guys to get

977
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: on the mat and wrestle. If that's not your thing,

978
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: if you're not really a good wrestler, then don't get

979
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: on the mat because somebody's gonna beat you. And that's

980
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: what they do. They say, we're gonna bunch everything in

981
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: and go going big. But guess what our three tight

982
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: ends are Shultz, McEwan and Jarvion, and they're not big,

983
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: so they get pushed back. Why don't we spread them

984
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: out and go you. I could blob it up to CD.

985
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: We all seen in the video what CD can do.

986
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: Cooper can do this. We can spread it out, or

987
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: we can run our quarterback up the mental Yeah. To

988
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: your point, though, Nick, if you're gonna put a tight

989
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: end out there that can't block, go in, put Pollard

990
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 1: out there right, just then open it up that way.

991
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: This team should be like, make the defense go small.

992
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: Stop enough of this. It drives me crazy that NFL

993
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: teams refuse to run ten personnel. Honestly, get four receivers

994
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: out there, make the defense go tiny to handle all

995
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: of them. Then give the ball to zeke and watch

996
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: him bulldoze the cornerbacks that are trying to tackle them. Like,

997
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, this doesn't seem complicated to me. To me,

998
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: says tiny Jim. Exactly. We heard it here first. All right,

999
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: let's move on offensive line, Dave, oh shoot, offensive line.

1000
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: Offensive line. Um, they're the guys in front, thank you,

1001
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: yes guy? Yeah, Um, I've been. I was. I was

1002
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: bullish on the tackles, being healthy all year. So like

1003
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: I feel, I feel good that they are. I know,

1004
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: tyrants sitting out right now, but I don't care about

1005
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: that yet yet. Being the operative word. Um, I guess

1006
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: just you know, I, me and Nick both have been

1007
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: beating the drum all spring of like what why don't

1008
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: they have any other centers? What the hell's going on?

1009
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: And so it's been interesting to watch Connor cross train

1010
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: there and Brian's trying to fire be honest, already like

1011
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: a weekend to camp. He wants Connor playing center. I'm

1012
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: not ready to go there yet, but I do think,

1013
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: you know, he looks natural at it for a guy

1014
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: that had never done it until maybe two months ago.

1015
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not ready to say that's a position battle,

1016
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: but I I feel like by the time we get

1017
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: to the season, I feel like that's it's nice to

1018
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: know he can do that. I'm kind of waiting for

1019
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: all five of these offensive linemen to play together. Have

1020
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: we had a practice if I mean, I know, initially

1021
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: we the yeah, like the first the first two or three,

1022
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it became the day

1023
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: and then no, not exactly, it was all yea, so

1024
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: that there. But I will say this, I think they're

1025
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 1: in the same spot they were last year as far

1026
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: as those backups. If they have to play with those guys,

1027
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: they're in trouble. I'm just gonna be honest with you here.

1028
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't think Titan and Sicky can play as a

1029
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: swing tackle. I really don't. I think he's too slow footed,

1030
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: you know, And that's where it's gonna happen. Maybe it's

1031
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: gonna be, oh, we're gonna have to kick Zach Martin over,

1032
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: or oh we're gonna have to kick Connor Williams out,

1033
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: or oh we're gonna have to do something else. But man,

1034
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: they talk about the whole thing with steel in the

1035
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: weight room and improvement. You could have fooled me, you know, really,

1036
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 1: you could have fooled me. And you know, but that's

1037
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: why I was. I was expecting that him and night.

1038
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: You know, an off season. You know, hey, we're not

1039
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: We're not closing down the weight room anymore. Get in there,

1040
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe they have. They keep talking about

1041
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: they got in there, and then you watch it's not translating.

1042
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: All the little awards that we're getting for being strong

1043
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: man in the weight room is not translating to how

1044
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: we're playing on the practice field right now. I don't

1045
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: disagree with that. I yeah, to tell you how thought

1046
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: it looks pretty good actually on the right side. No,

1047
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: I saw a couple of plays, um, but I just

1048
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: feel like, man, I'm excited about that they actually kept

1049
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: playing them. You know. It's it's one of those things

1050
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 1: that we didn't like it necessarily at the time, but

1051
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: because they did, and it got him a high draft pick,

1052
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: not just because of him, but they kept playing that,

1053
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, that mindset, and they lose, they lost games.

1054
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: They got a high draft pick, and they got parsons

1055
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And now you're sitting with a

1056
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: guy that maybe a swing tackle maybe and he's got

1057
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen game, fifteen games under his belt. He

1058
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: will see what he does in the in the preseason.

1059
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: But you know, he was a guy that played okay

1060
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: at times, but when he had bad moments like Dad

1061
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: got hurt and you know, got hit and fumbled, they

1062
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: lost the game against the Rams, or they had him

1063
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: fumble changed the game against the Browns. So you can't

1064
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: have those. I'm gonna do my broadest impression real quick.

1065
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: I'll ask you a question as Steel played on the

1066
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: left side at all at this camp. I have not

1067
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: seen him on the left side, which is interesting, neither

1068
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: of us. It's not very swinging, is it, know. And

1069
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: and they've also and what they've done is they've also

1070
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: kicked Night in playing more guard. I think, yeah, if

1071
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: you talk, you talked to the guys in the front office,

1072
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: I think Night's a better guard. But oh Diggy, the

1073
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: two sacks he's had have been against Night on the

1074
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: swim move right through the middle of the pocket, So

1075
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, I just feel like they're kind of in

1076
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: the same shape. Well, and I was kind of had

1077
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: some hope about Ball. I had some hope about Ball,

1078
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen anything from Ball that makes makes me.

1079
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: But he's gonna play in all these preseason games. He's

1080
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get a letter jacket play in this preseason.

1081
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: You're such a jerk. I do think I do think

1082
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: thinks looked pretty good. I think mcgoverness looked fine. I mean,

1083
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: I don't I'm trying to say if they have to

1084
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: play with one of these tackles, I hear it. But

1085
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins has had some problems too now and in

1086
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: a way that I'm like, you know, is it rust

1087
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: that he looks lighter, he's moving? But man, give the

1088
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: defensive ends some credit for the way they've kind of

1089
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: come after these gutters defensive line, Nick oh Um, A

1090
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: lot of questions there at the tackle position. Um, you know,

1091
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: they just got a lot of numbers we didn't know

1092
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: going in. We've kept our eye on Bohannah. You have

1093
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: Bohannah going to Canton next weekend, staying Canton. They're gonna

1094
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: make But I have scouts agree with you. By the way,

1095
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: I think Dan dan quinn said when they drafted him,

1096
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna play right here and maybe right here, you know,

1097
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: just right over the center. I don't think that's been

1098
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: the case. No, I think they they've been able to

1099
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: move him like a tackle because he moves well. One

1100
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: of those one of those screens I was talking about

1101
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: that they've been running pretty well. It's like they went

1102
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: full flow to his right and they tried to sneak

1103
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Zeke the other way and he's like, I'm gets rid

1104
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: of the honest and goes and get Zeke in the

1105
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: battlefield right there. And that's to be fair to Dan Quinn,

1106
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: I think our man has lost like thirty five draft

1107
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: on tape. You don't see on tape this guy. You

1108
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: see a three hundred and fifty pound guy going up

1109
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: and dominating Vanderbilt's middle of the line. But they'll be

1110
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: or because that's where he did. He did like all

1111
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: his highlights. Well, he wasn't just you know, going back

1112
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: there against Alabama and whatever. I mean he was he was.

1113
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: He got jam And Davis, who the football team took

1114
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: it in the first on. That linebacker from Tucky's really good.

1115
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean he got him drafted because he was able

1116
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: to free run and make a lot of play. Joseph

1117
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: maybe and the corner like I don't the cornerbacks have

1118
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: looked fine, and they've obviously like they've gotten their hands

1119
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: on a lot of balls, like I'm not ready to

1120
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: make this leap that I think that they look amazing yet.

1121
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: But we talk about cornerbacks about but I'm bringing it

1122
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: back to the first segment when Derek said, the cornerback

1123
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: you're just kind of taking. But I'm like, I just

1124
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 1: I've seen, like there's I've seen basically everybody along that

1125
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: front do something encouraging. Bohanna looks amazing. Might be a stretch,

1126
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: but Bohanna looks really good. No, not, no, he's not.

1127
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: Because if you're just Leary Urban, that's what I want

1128
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: to He hasn't, which I mean, he's made some plays,

1129
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: but I will say it's honestly, it's the guy that

1130
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: we all rode off the minute he got here that's

1131
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: been doing most of that is Carlos Watkins. Everybody was

1132
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: like this bub from Houston, he'll get cut, and he's

1133
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: the he's the starting one tech right now. The pro

1134
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: guys had a bad year last year. Year before they

1135
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: did a great job with the Quinn trade and all

1136
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: that made that work. They had a bad, bad evaluation

1137
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: period last year. All those defensive linemen they brought in

1138
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: world busts, you know, and so you know, yeah, if

1139
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: they can with bash him. You know, Urban, those guys.

1140
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still waiting. I thought when the Pads

1141
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: came on that Urban would be more He's he's you know,

1142
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: he's knocked down a couple of passes and stuff like that.

1143
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: But I thought he would be more of a powerful guy.

1144
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: But it has been I'll tell you, Neville Gallimore has

1145
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: been a guy that all of a sudden, you talk

1146
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: about a guy that the light bulb has kind of

1147
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: come on for him. The body looks good, the mobility

1148
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: looks good. The way he's getting up the field, he's

1149
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: been hard to lock, you know, you guys. He gets

1150
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: guys on their heels. I think that's been a real

1151
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: positive sign there. It makes me nervous because he wears

1152
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: the same number as Malik, and I mean, I'm oh, no,

1153
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: I had that. I had visions of every vision to MALIEK. Collins,

1154
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: like kind of going well against Frederick and then going

1155
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 1: well against Martin, and then you learned that Frederick is

1156
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: not all there, you know of a thing, and so yeah,

1157
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: that's that's part of It's tough. Every year. I came

1158
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: out here and thought Malik was about to be a

1159
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: pro bowler, but that's I mean, that's how that Neville

1160
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: looks fricking awesome. I hope it actually translates for him.

1161
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: Linebacker our favorite position. Uh, Mike, Mike is a stud.

1162
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 1: I was, I was. We were both down on the pick.

1163
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: I think me and Brian both probably would have taken

1164
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater. Yeah, is it a position I would Yeah,

1165
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: I would have taken Rashaans later. But I wasn't down

1166
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: on the pick because I thought he could be a

1167
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: good players like Slater. And then Bolton was availed to Missouri.

1168
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: Linebacker was available in that second round, and I was

1169
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: kind of thinking, oh, wow, you could have got that

1170
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: guy in a shorter linebacker that could tackle and run. Yeah,

1171
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: that seemed like to be That was a kind of

1172
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: a dan Quinn fit. Mister four or seven from Missouri

1173
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: can't do what Mike is doing out here. There's no

1174
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: question he's making He's making me look bad for not

1175
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was a super talented guy. But I'm

1176
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: just like, is this too high for an off ball linebacker?

1177
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,320
Speaker 1: But that's what makes him so exciting, is he smiling

1178
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: off ball linebacker. He's doing a lot of other stuff,

1179
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: his GP, his GPS stuff, is off the charts. I'm

1180
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 1: sure when they go back and they're like, Okay, who's

1181
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: got the highest movement of all that, it's it's him.

1182
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: Every day there's corners that run a lot and receivers

1183
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: that run a lot. I guarantee he's his right almost

1184
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: off the charts. And the funny thing too, I was

1185
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: talking about this at practice with somebody yesterday. He I mean,

1186
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: all these guys are huge and impressive and incredibly good athletes,

1187
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: but like, he doesn't look like Superman, you know, like

1188
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: Layton and Jalen look like action figures. They're like, oh,

1189
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: I mean we say this all the time. I'm like,

1190
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: if Jalen's first guy off the bus, especially when he's

1191
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: in uniform with the chrome visor and the sweatpants, he's

1192
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: first guy off the bus. Mica doesn't look that physically

1193
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: impressive compared to those guys, but he's sure as hell

1194
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: moves impressive, like, way more impressive than anybody else. And

1195
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder, put this dude into weight program

1196
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: next year. Imagine what he's gonna look like. This show

1197
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: up looking terrifying. Yeah, yeah, I think you did say that.

1198
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: A couple of ships. Well, he I tell you one

1199
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: time I was watching the one on one pass or

1200
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: shirt two verse two, and he dropped down and took

1201
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: a rep as a defensive tackle. Yeah, I went, he's okay,

1202
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: listening around the air, He's impressive, very impressive, nick linebacker. Um,

1203
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Jalen Smith make a play. I haven't.

1204
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: You guys have maybe seen more plays. I haven't seen

1205
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: him really go out and go wow, okay, that was

1206
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: a good play. I see him in coverage of little

1207
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: little bit. I see him high five in people. I

1208
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: see him kind of there, right, But I don't necessarily

1209
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: see the play, you know, And now I get it.

1210
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: He is a physical player when he wants to be.

1211
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: When he wants to go downhill and hit people, he can,

1212
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: and we haven't got to see that. So you know,

1213
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: you might see a little bit more physicality. And I

1214
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: think dan Quinn's gonna get him in position. But um,

1215
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to talk good about him. I

1216
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: think I think we kind of decided, hey, let's let's

1217
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: just let things play out. We don't need to trash

1218
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: this guy. But he's just not making a lot of plays.

1219
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: He's not and he doesn't help himself with some of

1220
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: the things he says, it's just it's it's tough. You

1221
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: you want to kind of look for the good stuff,

1222
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: and I just haven't really seen any. Yeah, I think

1223
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: Nick's onto something. I think dan Quinn's gonna figure out.

1224
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: He's gonna be part of what they're doing. But what

1225
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: happens when you watch him play, especially in coverage, he

1226
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: immediately has to grab, He immediately has to tackle to

1227
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: slow the receiver up so he can put himself in position.

1228
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna look get that and tape. They're

1229
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna say, Okay, we can't put him on the field

1230
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: and coverage situations. I think when it's talks about down

1231
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: down and distant stuff that he probably won't be on

1232
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: the field very much. I think there'll be some things

1233
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: they have him in the rotation, but overall, I think

1234
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: they're saying, hey, a little bit of a liability and coverage,

1235
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: we need to keep Parsons on the field, we need

1236
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: to keep band resh. Those guys have been outstanding us

1237
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: to talk about all the round players, both those guys

1238
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: first and ten. Though first and ten, the first time

1239
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: the Bucks take the field, will he be on the field.

1240
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: I think you don't care if he comes off, well,

1241
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: it depends on if the Bucks go eleven personnel and

1242
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: try and spread you out kind of a thing, which

1243
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: they will. No, I need them to go heavy and

1244
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: give it to Leonard if they if they go heavy,

1245
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: then then yeah, he'll be on the there's a little

1246
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: banging on. It's not gonna matter because places eating Tampa

1247
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: by the way, because NBC when they are on the field,

1248
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, and even if it's'll probably be a second

1249
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: or third down there, it looks look at that Cowboys

1250
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: defense and he's gonna be like smooth Notre Dame and

1251
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna that's a good point. Yeah, No, I he

1252
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: just needs to have the little star next to his

1253
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: name on Pro Football Reference when the games a star.

1254
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all. He didn't matter if he gets

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Speaker 1: three snaps, he could play one as long as it's

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Speaker 1: the first one. All right, fair enough, Let's go on

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Speaker 1: real quickly, you real quick? Uh the infore me in

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Speaker 1: the show. Let's get the secondary. Give me something you've

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Speaker 1: noticed about the secondary or something you've learned about the secondary? Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, which you know he's he's he is now

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Speaker 1: in a battle with Malie Cooker and maybe they brought

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Speaker 1: him in because they're not impressed on tape. You know,

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Speaker 1: tape and what we see at field levels totally different.

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Speaker 1: But I'm amazed by Demante Casey just just being out

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Speaker 1: there again, like we said that in the spring, just

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Speaker 1: being as ready to go as he is, and like

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like he's on a veteran schedule. He's

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Speaker 1: not taking off days. He's doing everything and by the

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Speaker 1: way he's making plays. He picked six dak the other day.

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Speaker 1: He had another pick against Gilbert yesterday. Uh. And it's

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Speaker 1: fun because we get to watch from the end zone

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Speaker 1: and you can kind of watch, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: go back and watch these videos we take from practice,

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Speaker 1: you can see Casey identify what's going on, make the

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Speaker 1: read step in front of the ball. So that's exciting. Now,

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Speaker 1: Like I had no expectations for that guy whatsoever. I

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Speaker 1: think they gave him one hundred thousand dollars guaranteed. That's

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01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: nothing that is we don't. Yeah, let's give it a shot,

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Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work out, nobody cares. But like

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Speaker 1: he looks good out there, and I didn't think that

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Speaker 1: might be the case. I think when you look at cornerback.

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Speaker 1: It's the one position that you can say I mean again,

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01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: it goes pretty deep, but you can say this, these

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01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: guys will be on the fifty three if they're healthy.

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Speaker 1: You know, one to seven. I think it's pretty easy

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Speaker 1: to go seven corners. Now. I know they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: kind of special teams guys. But you know, Anthony Brown,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis and digs and then you've got the two

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Speaker 1: draft picks, and I think they're both gonna make it

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01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: go with Joseph and the Sean right and then Kennedy

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Speaker 1: and CJ. Goodwin our corners, but they're also gonna be

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01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: special teams guys. Cannedy showing he's given me more than that.

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01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: What about a guy like Deontay Burdon. He's been out

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01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,760
Speaker 1: there a lot, They've been playing him a lot. I know.

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01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: I just he made plays in the OTAs in mini camps.

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01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: I haven't noticed him as much in these practices and

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I think Nick's you guys are on

1298
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: about the seven. That means you're gonna have to go

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: light somewhere else? Did he go light at linebacker? Can

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01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: you go light at defensive line? Can you go light?

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01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 1: I mean you go probably light at quarterback, they'll probably

1302
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: keep two. But if you're gonna keep that extra special

1303
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: teams that bones Fossil is gonna get his three core

1304
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: special teams guys to go along with the three guys

1305
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: that he's got already the snapper, the kicker, and the punter. Yeah,

1306
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find another spot for something to

1307
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 1: take to be able to get one of those guys

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Speaker 1: on breaking Like the secondary gives me anxiety, just like

1309
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to do with that that's

1310
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: playing better though they had, but they have been playing

1311
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: better that I was thinking that. And I've talked about

1312
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: the safety being a mess position even you know, even

1313
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: the Thompson had an interest an overthrown did so, you know, Yeah,

1314
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm anxious to see Hooker because I think Hooker

1315
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: and Wilson what I know about Malik Hooker playing in college,

1316
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm praying that comes back to that guy.

1317
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: That's a guy that plays with range. He was one

1318
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: of the best defensive players I scouted in that draft.

1319
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm hoping his health is okay and he can play

1320
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: with that range, play in the middle, play off the

1321
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: hash helps him the coverage, walk down and covering the

1322
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: slot if he has to, those are all things you

1323
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: need him to do. Talk about wearing that twenty eight.

1324
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that's that's maybe. Actually this is a conversation. I

1325
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: did have a conversation a little bit with Darren yea as.

1326
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 1: I texted him and he like five days later responded.

1327
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: But I texted him the picture of twenty eight and

1328
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not okay with this. Nobody is.

1329
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 1: He finally texted me back and he was like, it's typical.

1330
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: Darren Woodson only cares about really one thing. He's like, ha,

1331
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: can he play? Yeah? Right, I don't care, but he played. Hey,

1332
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 1: we time will tell. Yeah, he needs to stay healthy,

1333
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: like he is capable of living up to it absolutely,

1334
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: which is they used to. They've been given that number

1335
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: out the scrubs for the last few years. At least

1336
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Speaker 1: Malie Hooker's got some pedigree. He sure does. Wait, so

1337
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Speaker 1: real quick, I know we got in the show. Do you.

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Speaker 1: I was talking about this somebody yesterday. Do you think

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01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: Kasey and Hooker can both make this team? Doesn't that

1340
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: seem kind of redundant to you? Yeah? Well, I mean

1341
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,479
Speaker 1: if you if if Kazy. It's funny to me because

1342
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: Casey's so small, but he could probably play a better,

1343
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: be a better maybe a cover guy or something. But

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I mean both, they're

1345
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: both gonna be the free They can't play strong. I don't.

1346
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: They don't. They're not gonna play a ton of special teams.

1347
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: The reason why I think Casey looks so good is

1348
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: because he knows what dan Quinn's gonna call. When dan

1349
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: Quinn makes a call, he totally understand Abel's has to think.

1350
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to think. But I also think you

1351
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: got to remember to day, like the reason why Hooker's

1352
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: out there is because injuries have all have been an

1353
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: issue for him. So so if you do I think,

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01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: I think if this team is I think, I don't

1355
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: think they can be shortsighted and say, well, if looker

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01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: looks good, we're good. Yeah. I think they got a say,

1357
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: we gotta make sure we got a good as good

1358
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: equality as we can get as a backup. I'm not

1359
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hand the job to anybody. I

1360
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: just think we just had this conversation about you don't

1361
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: know where these roster spots are going to come from.

1362
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: And they're kind of the same player like, and they

1363
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: have a they it's specialized. Like you're not gonna get

1364
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: a ton of special team snaps out of them. They can't.

1365
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: They're not gonna play strong. It's not gonna be some

1366
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: Cazy's playing against Zeke all the time, Like he's not

1367
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Speaker 1: gonna play strong. Yeah, it's not gonna hurt them to

1368
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: cut CAZy if they have two. Money wise, sure they

1369
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,439
Speaker 1: might have to play Wilson on special teams a little

1370
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Speaker 1: bit more. You know, he's kind of a starter, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think he can play it. You can do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to ask one thing before

1373
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Speaker 1: we get going here do We got two hours, so

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Speaker 1: I gotta get going. Brian, I don't think we really

1375
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Speaker 1: mentioned it when we start the show, just kind of

1376
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Speaker 1: tell tell the fans kind of where where you are now,

1377
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Speaker 1: what you're doing, where they can find you. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna at one oh five three the fan and we're

1379
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: the radio partner with the team. So m really fortunate

1380
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: that way to get to come around and do stuff.

1381
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about working with Brad Champ too, doing

1382
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Speaker 1: the preseason games as well. Be on with the Arizona,

1383
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: the Jackson Houston Jacksonville games. Babe and Brad had the call.

1384
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, you can listen to us. Um, you know,

1385
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 1: I'm on two to seventh Central every day. We have

1386
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: an app called the Odyssey App. We're owned by Odyssey

1387
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: and you could go back if you you know, want

1388
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 1: to come back and listen to us. We did three

1389
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Speaker 1: live mics. We were on the field, we were doing

1390
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. So yeah, but we're we're the

1391
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: we're the official station of the Cowboys, So give us

1392
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Speaker 1: a listen. Well, g back Nation two to seven every day. Yeah,

1393
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: really good show. Thank you and uh, well, appreciate you

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Speaker 1: join us. Man, thank you for having me back through

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Speaker 1: and maybe we'll do it sometime later this year. We'll

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Speaker 1: get I'll do that. And good luck to Bennett brought us.

1397
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Speaker 1: He's been running around the camps here for years. He's

1398
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 1: gonna be a starting quarterback. Here we go. Well, we'll

1399
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Speaker 1: see how it all go. Yeah, thanks all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Johns. We'll be back on Sunday till then

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Speaker 1: for Nick Eatman, Dave Helmt, Brian brought us. I'm Derek Eagleson.

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