WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #30

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<v Speaker 2>This is It Could Happen Here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>news gaest covering what's happening in the White House, the

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<v Speaker 2>crumbling world, what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode, I'm joined by Robert Evans, j I'm Stout

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<v Speaker 2>and Sophie Lichtermann. Maybe maybe Sophie will decide to comment

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<v Speaker 2>on some of this important, important news we have today.

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<v Speaker 3>To bless us, and maybe Robert will decide to forgive

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<v Speaker 3>you for jumping into giving the title of this show

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<v Speaker 3>and not letting me say electile dysfunction or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>We no, I have not gotten over living. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 3>about a pedophile. It's time for your Friday pedophile Update. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we call it the FREEO file minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 4>It is free to callos SO.

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<v Speaker 3>On August fifteenth, twenty twenty five, at eight thirty six

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<v Speaker 3>Anno Meridian that means in the morning, the Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 3>Metropolitan Police Department Office of Public Information put up a

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<v Speaker 3>press release with the title eight child sex Predators arrested

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<v Speaker 3>during undercover operation. Now, this was a report on a

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<v Speaker 3>multi agency operation going after child sex predators that was

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<v Speaker 3>headed by the Nevada Internet Crimes Against Children or ICY

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<v Speaker 3>the AC Organization, which is a joint operation that involves

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<v Speaker 3>a mix of There's some detectives from the Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 3>Metropolitan to Police, there's some folks from the FBI Child

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<v Speaker 3>Exploitation Task Force, and then I guess the ICAC has

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<v Speaker 3>its own task force. I've never heard of this group before,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's there's a number of other law enforcement agents involved,

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<v Speaker 3>including North Las Vegas Police Henderson Police who actually posted

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<v Speaker 3>declaration of arrest for the person that we'll be talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the Henderson, Nevada Police, Homeland Security Investigations, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Nevada Attorney General's office. This was your standard sting to

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<v Speaker 3>try and catch people who are attempting to have sex

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<v Speaker 3>with kids, where you have undercover agents who are online.

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<v Speaker 3>In this case, they were using an app called Pure

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<v Speaker 3>and on WhatsApp. It looks like, as a general rule,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys met the person that they thought was a

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<v Speaker 3>minor on Pure and then took the conversation to WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 3>to plan for an in person meeting where they then

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<v Speaker 3>they you know, the whole what's that guy who used

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<v Speaker 3>to do the TV show where he would bust pedophiles

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<v Speaker 3>and there were some ethical problems with Chris Hansen. They'd

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<v Speaker 3>have their Chris Hansen moment, right, No familiar with this,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, it didn't go well. So the story that

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<v Speaker 3>people have been hearing and that kind of went viral

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<v Speaker 3>out of this is that one of these eight people

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<v Speaker 3>arrested was tom Ardiam Alexandrovitch, who was a high ranking

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<v Speaker 3>cybersecurity official. He was the director of one of the

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<v Speaker 3>divisions of Israel's top cybersecurity agency. So you know, inn

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli government official working in cybersecurity is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>guys arrested. He was in town in Las Vegas for

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<v Speaker 3>the black Hat convention, which is like a hacking convention,

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<v Speaker 3>and like a lot of hacking conventions, over time, it

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<v Speaker 3>has turned from a bunch of guys who do not

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<v Speaker 3>like the Feds to just Feds, right, Like, I think

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<v Speaker 3>that that's why the guy guy from israel cybersecurity agency

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<v Speaker 3>is at this thing, hitten on so fed allegedly fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>year olds. So this guy is arrested and then he

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<v Speaker 3>posts bail at ten grand and he flies back to Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>which gets a lot of people in an uproar. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>anything involving officials of the Israeli government is receiving heightened

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<v Speaker 3>scrutiny right now, what with the genocide, and also for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, there's a lot of evidence of special

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<v Speaker 3>treatment being given to agents of the government of Israel

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<v Speaker 3>by the United States government, and so people are like,

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<v Speaker 3>is that what's going on here? Because this seems pretty

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<v Speaker 3>fucked up. And I guess the first thing I should

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<v Speaker 3>say is that it doesn't seem like he's being treated

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<v Speaker 3>differently from anyone else in this sting. This is per

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<v Speaker 3>statements made by the local government and by the Attorney

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<v Speaker 3>General's office. This is the standard bail amount for this crime.

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<v Speaker 3>And when people post bail for this crime, which is

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<v Speaker 3>the standard amount of ten grand, there aren't conditions usually

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<v Speaker 3>on the bail, which means it would not be standard

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<v Speaker 3>to stop him from traveling or returning home. He's due

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<v Speaker 3>to return to the United States in several weeks for

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<v Speaker 3>the court proceedings to go on. So the short answer

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<v Speaker 3>to this seems to be that, like, no, this is

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of how the system works, and that might

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<v Speaker 3>not be great, But he doesn't seem to have been

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<v Speaker 3>given special treatment because he was an official of the

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli government. Now, does that mean that that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>prove to be what happens in the long run. No, because,

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<v Speaker 3>among other things, he might just not come back to

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<v Speaker 3>the US, and if the Israeli government is a party

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<v Speaker 3>to that, and like there isn't any kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>action taken to like force him to return to go

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<v Speaker 3>through the legal process, then I'd say, yeah, there's something

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<v Speaker 3>to be particularly upset about here. But I think the

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<v Speaker 3>broader thing to maybe be upset about here is that

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<v Speaker 3>guys can get caught for this and then have a

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<v Speaker 3>no condition bail that allows them to flee the country,

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<v Speaker 3>which might be a flaw in the system.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big innocent until proven guilty guy. I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>big reasonable bail guy. But I'm also a big I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know man. Maybe if the agent of a foreign

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<v Speaker 3>government gets caught trying to fuck a child, they shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be able to fly back home.

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<v Speaker 4>Immediately after they bail out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>To seems that it's a reasonable objection.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So you know, this is a classic case of

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<v Speaker 3>you've got the story what actually happened here, got how

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<v Speaker 3>it's interpreted online, and then you've got how it's being

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<v Speaker 3>interpreted online by the stupidest person on the world, on

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<v Speaker 3>the planet, in the planet, and in that planet that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it'd be good if he was, wouldn't it in

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<v Speaker 4>the molten cools?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that would be nice. You've got how the story

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<v Speaker 3>is being interpreted by particularly bad journalists. Let's say that

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<v Speaker 3>that's the nice way to put it. And I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Michael Tracy. If you're not familiar with Michael Tracy.

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<v Speaker 3>He is ostensibly a leftist and anti authoritarian.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Who just sort of reflexibly if the US is involved,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever is the worst case scenario for the US doing

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<v Speaker 3>something is what's happening. During the invasion of Ukraine, he

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<v Speaker 3>alleged that the US was sending troops into Ukraine. I

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<v Speaker 3>think because he saw some guys outside of an embassy

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<v Speaker 3>in Poland, some American soldier for.

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<v Speaker 4>The marine details and some of the marine detail. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like, we're getting ready to invade. That did not happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Michael Tracy has a sub stack of course cases,

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<v Speaker 3>and he published an article titled was an Israeli pedophile

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<v Speaker 3>really allowed to flee the United States? And I can't tell.

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<v Speaker 3>He starts with like a whole paragraph about Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't actually tell what his stance is on this,

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't really want he's talking about how people

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<v Speaker 3>are eager to prove him wrong about Jeffrey Epstein. I

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<v Speaker 3>have no desire to know what this guy thinks about

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<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey Epstein.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is probably a Jeffrey Epstein was a secret

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<v Speaker 2>massad agent type thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, except for his whole argument here is that there's

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<v Speaker 3>people are being incredibly unreasonable to think that this guy

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<v Speaker 3>is guilty or to think that he probably did anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason Michael Tracy suggests that Tom Alexandrovitch probably

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<v Speaker 3>didn't do anything wrong is that the terms of the

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<v Speaker 3>app Pure, which is where the authorities say he first

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<v Speaker 3>got in contact with the officer pretending to be a child,

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<v Speaker 3>requires you to be eighteen years or older. And in

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<v Speaker 3>this substack to post the terms of service to be like, see,

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<v Speaker 3>there is even what appears to be a rig the

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<v Speaker 3>risk age verification process. To ensure that no minor gains

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<v Speaker 3>access to the app, government issued documents must be submitted

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<v Speaker 3>to ensure that only persons at least eighteen years of

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<v Speaker 3>old are allowed on the app. And he's like, does

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<v Speaker 3>this mean the government was faking documents? Was pretending to

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<v Speaker 3>be a child to this app?

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<v Speaker 4>Yet that's what they were doing, Well, they were pretending

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<v Speaker 4>to be a triild Jeremary, Yeah, that's probably what they

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<v Speaker 4>were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other thing what's really funny about this is like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's his whole point is that the app requires them

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<v Speaker 3>to be eighteen, so it's you know, the authorities must

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<v Speaker 3>have been doing something fucked up and lying to the

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<v Speaker 3>app for this to have happened at all. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is just an example of Michael Tracy not reading the

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<v Speaker 3>declaration of arrest, which he links in his article, because

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<v Speaker 3>the declaration of arrest does say that, yes, this person

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<v Speaker 3>got in contact with the undercover agent bearing the peer

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<v Speaker 3>up and then the same sentence says and later WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 3>with phone number dot dot dot and says that on WhatsApp,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where they talked about the person in this

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<v Speaker 3>case being a minor, and this is where they set

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<v Speaker 3>up like to arrange a meeting. This is lee cybersecurity

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<v Speaker 3>official was going to take them to circ the slay

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<v Speaker 3>and had them bring a condom like That's all in

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<v Speaker 3>the declaration of arrest. Now, obviously Alexandrovitch maintains his innocence,

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<v Speaker 3>maintains he thought this person was eighteen all the entire time.

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<v Speaker 3>All I've got here is the declaration of arrest. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't have hard evidence, but per the source that Michael

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<v Speaker 3>Tracy cites, like this is not just happening on pure

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<v Speaker 3>This is as is often the case, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>when pedophiles go after kids, they meet them on whatever

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<v Speaker 3>app and then take them to a second digital location, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just the way these things work. And that's really

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<v Speaker 3>all I have to say about this. You know this,

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<v Speaker 3>This is the kind of I mean, maybe keep an

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<v Speaker 3>eye on this in case this guy doesn't go back

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<v Speaker 3>and the Israeli government does hide him. But it's entirely

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<v Speaker 3>possible that this will go the way court cases and

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<v Speaker 3>this sort of thing are supposed to go. There's one

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<v Speaker 3>other funny thing, considering this guy is a high ranking

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<v Speaker 3>Israeli cybersecurity official. There's just like a list of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>statements about like what Alexandrovitch said to detectives when he

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<v Speaker 3>was being interrogated, you know this stuff like Alexander Alexandrovitch

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<v Speaker 3>stated he did not know the numbers for the Israeli government.

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<v Speaker 3>Alexandrovitch stated his family was an israel Alexandrovitch stated it

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<v Speaker 3>was important he get numbers for his flight, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Alexandrovitch stated his phone does not have a password but

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<v Speaker 3>uses his right thumb print.

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<v Speaker 2>No a biometric user, cybersecurity expert for the government.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not sending the best people.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, your fucking thumb print, dude, Your fucking

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<v Speaker 3>thumb print.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, it's just famous most secure possible access code.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, that's all I've got for peta Friday tune in

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<v Speaker 3>next week we'll have another pedophile for you. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>of it. Oh yeah, here's ads. All right, we're back,

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<v Speaker 3>and it is a pedophile free will. We can't guarantee that,

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose, but we are hoping petera free zone from

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<v Speaker 3>here on it. Talking of things which are incontrovertibly crimes,

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<v Speaker 3>Israel has deliberately murdered for Al Jazeera journalists in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 3>Among them was an us Are Sharif, a prominent correspondent

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<v Speaker 3>for the network in Gaza. The IDF also killed correspondent

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<v Speaker 3>Mohammed karka, cameraman Ibrahim Zaya, and driver in cameraman Mohammad

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<v Speaker 3>Nofal Al Jazeera has named all of these people. The

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<v Speaker 3>strike also killed two freelancers. One of them was mom

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<v Speaker 3>And Aliwa and al Sharif's nephew, who was a student

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<v Speaker 3>studying journalism for weeks before the liberate and pre meditated

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<v Speaker 3>war crime to war crime under a Roman statute and

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<v Speaker 3>also a violation of the Geneva Conventions because journalists are

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<v Speaker 3>also civilians the idea of engaged in manufacturing consent for

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<v Speaker 3>the strike. They did this three unit that nine to

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<v Speaker 3>seven two magazine has reported on called the quote legitimization cell.

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<v Speaker 3>You're always doing great when you have a unit called

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<v Speaker 3>the legitimization cell. Yeah, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty fucked to quote from the piece which are

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<v Speaker 4>link below. It has been a signed to identify guy

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<v Speaker 4>as a based journalist. It could betray us undercover her

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<v Speaker 4>mass operatives in an effort to blunt growing global outrage

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<v Speaker 4>over Israel's killing of reporters. You should read this article

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<v Speaker 4>like it goes through instances whether they have a very

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<v Speaker 4>clear confirmation bias right, And the case of al Sharifhys

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<v Speaker 4>is a pretty good example of how ridiculous this can be.

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<v Speaker 4>They released this document, they tweeted it actually claiming he

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<v Speaker 4>was in her mask from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 4>The document clearly wasn't original document, Like it was a

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<v Speaker 4>PDF done up with like a navy blue background and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>It's laughable to think that they like captured this pdf somehow.

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<v Speaker 4>It just doesn't line up. Even if we take that

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<v Speaker 4>to be true, right, that he had been a member

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<v Speaker 4>of her mask till twenty seventeen. That was eight years ago. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>isn't the whole point of the thing that they're saying

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<v Speaker 4>that they want people to stop being in hamas, like

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<v Speaker 4>killing them because they want did that and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe them. It still doesn't make sense right. They've done

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<v Speaker 4>this in other cases with other Juras, specifically other Al

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<v Speaker 4>Jazeera journalists. In July this year, the CPJA that's a

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<v Speaker 4>committee to Protect Journalists if you're not familiar, warned that

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<v Speaker 4>they were worried about an attack on al Scherif due

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<v Speaker 4>to the increasingly detached from reality smear campaign being pursued

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<v Speaker 4>against him by IDA spokesman a Vice Adray. For example,

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<v Speaker 4>on the twentieth July, Adray accused him of being quote

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<v Speaker 4>part of a quote false harmass campaign on starvation as

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<v Speaker 4>he played footage of al Cherif crying after seeing a

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<v Speaker 4>woman collapse from hunger on camera. Speaking about the campaign,

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<v Speaker 4>al Cherif said it is not only a media threat

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<v Speaker 4>or an image destruction. It is a real life threat.

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<v Speaker 4>He said it's in his interview with CPJA, He also said,

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<v Speaker 4>I live with the feeling that I could be bombed

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<v Speaker 4>and martyred at any moment, my family is also in

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<v Speaker 4>danger and his nephew was killed with him right in

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<v Speaker 4>the air strike. When I think about like, I have

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<v Speaker 4>colleagues I've worked with through are Palestinian who work in Gaza, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember twenty twenty three October tenth, twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Syria, in Rajaba specifically, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in a t shop because the Wi Fi and

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<v Speaker 4>my hotel was nonexistent, and I wanted to check in

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<v Speaker 4>on my friends, right who worked there. And I remember

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<v Speaker 4>this guy helping me translate one of these videos in

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<v Speaker 4>which you see a dead person in the blue press vest, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was concerned that it might be someone I've

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<v Speaker 4>worked with before, so I was trying to work out

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<v Speaker 4>it with them, and he was saying in his video.

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<v Speaker 4>At the funeral, people were saying that another journalist would

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<v Speaker 4>take up the dead journalist camera and the flag jacket

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<v Speaker 4>and keep reporting, which is very touching for me. But

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<v Speaker 4>journalists and Gaza have been targeted by the IDF for

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<v Speaker 4>a very long time, and this is one of many examples,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's disgusting and reprehensible. That's about all I have

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<v Speaker 4>to say on it should we turn to immigration for something.

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<v Speaker 4>Colleague despondent and said, yeah, all right. USCIS US Citizenship

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<v Speaker 4>and Immigration Services has issued a new guidance material to

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<v Speaker 4>instruct offices in cases where they can use their discretion

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<v Speaker 4>to look at whether the person has quote endorsed, promoted,

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<v Speaker 4>or supported, or otherwise espoused the views of a terrorist

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<v Speaker 4>organization or group, including those who support or promote anti

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<v Speaker 4>American ideologies and activities, anti Semitic terrorism from skipping a

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<v Speaker 4>bit here, and anti Semitic ideologies. This discretion can be

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<v Speaker 4>used in extension of stay cases, change of status cases,

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<v Speaker 4>reinstatement or f or M non immigrant status, and certain

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<v Speaker 4>employment authorization requests, they say in the memo. The USCIS

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<v Speaker 4>Policy Manual also lists other instances where discretion could be used.

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<v Speaker 4>These include TPS, Temporary protected status, humanitarian parole partition to

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<v Speaker 4>classify an alien as a fiancee of a US citizen,

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<v Speaker 4>asylum and refugee status. So I looked up what the

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<v Speaker 4>quote anti American activities were. There's a footnote right. The

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<v Speaker 4>footnote links to iron A three one three a Immigration

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<v Speaker 4>Naturalization Act. Most of the anti American activities are things

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<v Speaker 4>which already had a bar to naturalization, and most of

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<v Speaker 4>those pertain directly to being a member of the Communist Party,

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<v Speaker 4>like a literal card carrying member of the literal Communist

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<v Speaker 4>Party right capital C, Capital P. The USO had a

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<v Speaker 4>bar on naturalization for people who are members of the

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<v Speaker 4>Communist Party for some time. I believe they still have

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<v Speaker 4>a bar on naturalization for people who were members of

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<v Speaker 4>the Nazi Party pre visa waiver I should say not

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<v Speaker 4>actually a visa when people from Europe were coming to

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<v Speaker 4>the United States, you'd have to answer a short questionnaire.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the questions was about whether you or anyone

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<v Speaker 4>related to you had been a member of the Nazi Party.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember like once being some German people in Europe

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<v Speaker 4>and they were telling me they'd had to answer this

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<v Speaker 4>question entering the United States. So the anti American activities

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<v Speaker 4>is one that's been getting the most attention, but it

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<v Speaker 4>does specifically footnote to the communist stuff, which is again

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<v Speaker 4>something that has been US policy for a while. What

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<v Speaker 4>I'm more worried about is stuff about anti Semitic terrorism.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that means one, you've shared a pro Palestine

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<v Speaker 2>post on social.

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<v Speaker 4>Media, Yeah you say genocide bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that can mean so many things that as we've

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<v Speaker 2>already seen, like we've seen some of this stuff already

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<v Speaker 2>be enforced. This is new guidance material, but we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>reports coming from people trying to enter the country, you're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get visas that show that this is happening

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<v Speaker 2>for like months ever since, like you know, like March,

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<v Speaker 2>I started to see a lot of stuff regarding either

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<v Speaker 2>pro Palestinian statements or like posts or campus protests that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the f visa I mentioned there is it's a

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<v Speaker 4>non immigrant student visa right for full time students. So

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<v Speaker 4>like that is the one where we've seen students have

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<v Speaker 4>to turn over as social media handles, a social media

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<v Speaker 4>can't be locked. It's very easy to see how these

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<v Speaker 4>two things line up. Yeah, and as a guest said,

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<v Speaker 4>like people, they have always been able to use their discretion.

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<v Speaker 4>This is just guidance on how they should use it,

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<v Speaker 4>but they have been using it for some time. The

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<v Speaker 4>administration has also moved the goalpost for naturalization. So naturalization

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<v Speaker 4>is becoming a citizen of the United States. Right, there

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<v Speaker 4>is a requirement that people who naturalize as citizens have

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<v Speaker 4>quote good moral character. Previously, the way they did this

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<v Speaker 4>was there were bars for certain crimes right murdered genocide,

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<v Speaker 4>something called aggravated felony, which is something that only exists

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<v Speaker 4>in immigration law. Going forward, they're changing to, I guess,

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<v Speaker 4>a more holistic idea of what a good moral character

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<v Speaker 4>might be. I'm going to quote again. Going forward, USCIS

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<v Speaker 4>offices must account for an alien to positive attributes and

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<v Speaker 4>not simply the absence of misconduct in evaluating whether or

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<v Speaker 4>not an alien has met the requirement for establishing GMC.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a good moral character. The officer must take a

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<v Speaker 4>holistic approach in evaluating whether or not an alien seeking

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<v Speaker 4>naturalization has affirmatively established that he or she has met

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<v Speaker 4>their burden of establishing that they are worthy of assuming

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<v Speaker 4>the rights and responsibilities of United States citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>The worthy What does that mean? You have to prove

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<v Speaker 2>to an officer that you're a good person.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how so, yes, by the officer's definition, I'm assuming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I mean this is this is guys for

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<v Speaker 2>like discretionary enforcement. So I don't like the word holistic here.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. Yeah. They is literally asking him to take

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<v Speaker 4>into account everything they know about this person and then

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<v Speaker 4>just make a call. Is this someone you want to

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<v Speaker 4>have as your neighbor, you know, like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what the oh I mean, I can guess how this

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<v Speaker 4>might manifested. It's worth noting that as DHS goes, USCIS

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<v Speaker 4>officers tend to be the least right wing right CBP

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<v Speaker 4>and I, so the much higher proportion of people who like,

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<v Speaker 4>for instance, they had some issues with getting people vaccinated

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<v Speaker 4>and CBP that kind of stuff right, indicators that people

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<v Speaker 4>might be sort of down this conser piracy pipeline. We

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<v Speaker 4>also learned this week that Todd Blanche directed federal cops

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<v Speaker 4>to arrest Mayor rasp Baraka outside of a detention center

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<v Speaker 4>in New Jersey in May. We noticed because of body

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<v Speaker 4>cam footage. We don't have the footage, but the footage

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<v Speaker 4>is reported on in court documents, and the footage a

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<v Speaker 4>DHS official says, quote, we are resting the mayor right now,

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<v Speaker 4>per the Deputy Attorney General of the United States. Anyone

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<v Speaker 4>that gets in our way, I need you guys to

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<v Speaker 4>give me a perimeter so I can cuff him. So

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<v Speaker 4>that the agent talked on the phone and then gave

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<v Speaker 4>this statement. Right, So, it seems that the deputy ag

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<v Speaker 4>there with the one who gave the order to arrest

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<v Speaker 4>rasp Baraka right, Ice has also arrested a cop. This

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<v Speaker 4>is our little moment of like a harp pond cup violence,

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<v Speaker 4>top pond cup violence. Yeah. John Luke Evans was a

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<v Speaker 4>reserve officer for the Old Orchard Beach Police Department in Maine.

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<v Speaker 4>The police chief of Orchard Beach, who's called elist Chard,

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<v Speaker 4>said that the department had used e Verify to check

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<v Speaker 4>if he could work legally, right, which is the thing

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<v Speaker 4>that you are supposed to do. He Verify. It's a

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<v Speaker 4>database run by the Department of Homeland Security. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's also in combination with another department that allows you

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<v Speaker 4>to verify if somebody can work legally in the United States. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Tritian McLaughlin characterized this as reckless, which is weird because

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<v Speaker 4>the hs who she's speaking on behalf of other ones

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<v Speaker 4>who put that information into the database. It's possible that

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<v Speaker 4>someone entered at something in wrong at some point, right,

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<v Speaker 4>someone put in a wrong number, they switched an O

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<v Speaker 4>for a zero, or something like that. This came to

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<v Speaker 4>light because Evans attempted to make a firearm purchase and

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<v Speaker 4>he filled out his forty four to seventy three and

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<v Speaker 4>the eighty f then notified Ice that a non citizen

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<v Speaker 4>who wasn't eligible for firearms ownership had attempted to purchase

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<v Speaker 4>a firearm, and that was how Ice came to detain him.

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<v Speaker 4>He is being allowed to leave the USA Volunteers. He's

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<v Speaker 4>not being deported, he's not being charged with the attempting

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<v Speaker 4>to make the firearm purchase, which he could be charged with,

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<v Speaker 4>and the City of Orchard Beach has going pretty hard

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<v Speaker 4>in his defense. They've released some elements of personnel file,

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<v Speaker 4>but none of them that pertained to his immigration status.

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<v Speaker 4>They're sticking by their claim that they believe he was

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<v Speaker 4>eligible to work in the USA, ISA claiming I guess

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<v Speaker 4>DHS now claiming that his visa expired in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>which was years before he began working at the police department.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a seasonal reserve officer and he had been

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<v Speaker 4>working since earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we go on break, I want to do a

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<v Speaker 2>quick update on the Texas Democrats who fled the state

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<v Speaker 2>to delay or prevent the gerrymandering. And after their two

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<v Speaker 2>week walkout, the Texas House has now reached quorum once

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<v Speaker 2>again and a vote on the new redistricting map, which

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<v Speaker 2>would add five Republican congressional seats. Is slated for Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 2>August twentieth, which is the day that we are recording.

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<v Speaker 2>After Democrats returned to the capital from their walkout, they

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<v Speaker 2>were subjected to twenty four to seven surveillance by the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas Department of Public Safety, and in order to leave

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<v Speaker 2>the House chamber, they had to sign what the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>are calling quote unquote permission slips, agreeing to surveillance in

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<v Speaker 2>their just everyday life.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that why? I think it was a collier slept

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<v Speaker 1>at her.

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<v Speaker 2>Desk one person's I think a state senator refused to

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<v Speaker 2>sign the slip and stayed.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Capitol overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair enough, The Texas House Minority Leader Jeen Wu made

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<v Speaker 2>a statement saying, quote, we killed the corrupt special session,

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<v Speaker 2>was stood unprecedented surveillance and intimidation, and rallied Democrats nationwide

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<v Speaker 2>to join this extential fight for fair representation, reshaping the

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<v Speaker 2>entire twenty twenty six landscape. Unquote. There's a very celebratory

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<v Speaker 2>tone here, which is slightly odd to me because this

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<v Speaker 2>vote is still probably going through.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they kind of lose, this.

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<v Speaker 2>Is going to get voted in. Yeah, Now who has

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<v Speaker 2>said that the Democrats are going to challenge the redistricting

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<v Speaker 2>maps in court even if they are able to pass

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<v Speaker 2>through this House vote. And as we know, the courts

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<v Speaker 2>are the last bastion for democracy and will save us all.

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<v Speaker 2>We suspected that this whole walkout is more performative than

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<v Speaker 2>anything else and would not actually lead to than killing

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<v Speaker 2>this map. And instead of remaining out of the state

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<v Speaker 2>longer for a like undeterminate amount of time, possibly until November,

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<v Speaker 2>they have returned and quorum is in the chamber.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's it's like, it's not nothing, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>like the next just it's one step up from nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the most democrat thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, but why why only do half of what

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<v Speaker 1>was necessary?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Sophie, you you're asking this question because you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>grow up in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the Democratic National Convention. I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>half effort.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Democratic Party exists to disappoint you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why, that's why all this is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like the entire Texas Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 1>just like a Bedo O'Rourke. H Like, not literally, but

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<v Speaker 1>the concept of Beto O'Rourke.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, not wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all it's all there. Never never put your

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<v Speaker 3>faith in Texas and any part of Texas and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>be disappointed less. I've been telling people this for a

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<v Speaker 3>long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like the second thing you told me.

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<v Speaker 3>Every year. Democrats in other parts of the country every

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<v Speaker 3>couple of years get like excited. It's the Charlie Brown

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<v Speaker 3>syndrom where they're like, oh my god, Texas might be

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 3>about to flip or something otherwise, good Ted Ted Cruz

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 3>is going to get forced out. We're finally going to

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<v Speaker 3>have something good happen in Texas politics. And every time,

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<v Speaker 3>every time that football gets pulled away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's it's feels not great that the minority

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.959
<v Speaker 2>leaders kind of patting themselves on the back for taking

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<v Speaker 2>basically a two week vacation to Illinoising California and then

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<v Speaker 2>returning and having this go through. So, I don't know,

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.439
<v Speaker 2>we'll see this develops. The California is promising to do

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<v Speaker 2>their own redistricting to equal out the amount of like

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:27.640
<v Speaker 2>map changes, both adding five more seats for the respective parties.

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<v Speaker 1>It's annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just annoying. It's just annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a nice piece of performance. So I guess you

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<v Speaker 4>know what else is annoying things.

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<v Speaker 2>That I don't think they're annoying at all. I value

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<v Speaker 2>each and every advertiser.

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 4>Garrison actually personally vets all of our advertisers, so you

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 4>can reach out to them.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I agree, this is canon. Now, if

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 3>you're ever unhappy with an advertiser, find Garrison's personal phone

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<v Speaker 3>number and and hit him up.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, oh god, time to go into

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<v Speaker 1>blocking spree.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back Putin. I guess puts a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That That's actually how I would describe the meeting between

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<v Speaker 1>a Trump and Putin and Alaska Putin.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, yeah, that's pretty much how it went. They had,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a little meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some insane conspiracy theories that he sent a

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<v Speaker 1>body double.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's one of my favorite things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always insane conspiracy theories supported.

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<v Speaker 1>From BBC News actually, which I find funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm glad that BBCs is on the is on

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<v Speaker 2>the pulse of of theories spreading online.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 3>And and people are just now figuring out again that

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<v Speaker 3>whenever world leaders travel to foreign countries for summits. At

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<v Speaker 3>this level, they take their poop back with them And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I saw an article being like, is it true, did

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<v Speaker 3>Putin really take his poop back? And yes, they all

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 3>do because they don't want it to get analyzed to

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.480
<v Speaker 3>find evidence of health issues. Like the president has his

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 3>poop taken home every time you go overseas.

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<v Speaker 4>This is just the way things are.

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<v Speaker 2>Frankly, I think if we're able to get the Putin poop,

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<v Speaker 2>you can make a clone of put and then that

0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>could be the body show we use it. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 2>stuff that like the fifties of CIA still existed, as

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>they still.

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<v Speaker 4>Had the juice.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be a lot more fun.

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<v Speaker 2>You would be doing in that really unethical human cloning

0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>project where you have this like shambling like undead corpse

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>of that we can profim Christ. But that's basically how

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the meeting went.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry for derailing my bad, no, because the meeting is

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<v Speaker 5>kind of enough burger. At this point, there was reports

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<v Speaker 5>that Putin basically ranted to Trump about how Ukraine's always

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 5>has been a part of Russia and the meeting didn't

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<v Speaker 5>really go anywhere. Putin ignored a question on if he

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<v Speaker 5>would quote stop killing civilians, so Yeah, that's basically how

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<v Speaker 5>the whole how the whole debacle went. And I think

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 5>it's really indicative that like a day or two after

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<v Speaker 5>this happened, Trump had the Zelensky meeting two point zero

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<v Speaker 5>in the White House, which went much better than the

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 5>previous Zelensky meeting, and Trump was a lot more friendly

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 5>with silenskily this time around.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently Zelensky has been going around other European leaders getting

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 3>advice on how to like talk with it Trump.

0:29:40.840 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he gave him, gave him a letter which which

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Trump Trump really appreciates and likes. The uh started by

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>thanking uh, thanking the first Lady for a letter as well.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>So there's always like little polite gestures that Trump really enjoys.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 4>He likes to be like honored and venerated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so indulged in that war of a fairly a

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 2>fairly spiffy all black suits. I liked it. It's a

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>good it was a good suit. So it's but it

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<v Speaker 2>is it is very indicative if you look at like

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<v Speaker 2>how the last Selenski meeting went and then after Trump

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 2>was around putin for like a few hours, how how

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<v Speaker 2>how Trump's mood was noticeably different around Zelenski this time around,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see. I don't think we're gonna have any

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<v Speaker 2>conclusion to the conflict in Ukraine anytime soon based on

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>how these two meetings went. There was there was reporting

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<v Speaker 2>that they were trying to set up a meeting between

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<v Speaker 2>Putin and Zelensky, though that has since been denied. It

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>sits this constant like back and forth, like like it

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<v Speaker 2>has been the past, like two four years.

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<v Speaker 3>But Trump is going to bring an end to the war.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the peace president, kind of get a Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, did you know that Trump's ended six wars? Six, seven,

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>six or seven? Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, it's I love it.

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 3>I love it when you can't keep track of how

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<v Speaker 3>many wars you ended.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one other story I would like to discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure James will have some comments on this as well,

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<v Speaker 2>on a series of unfortunate ICE actions, including the first

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<v Speaker 2>instant that I'm aware of where federal agents have shot

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<v Speaker 2>their firearms during an enforcement operation at least as of

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration two point zero. On Saturday morning, August sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>in San Bernardino, a family was pulled over by massed

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<v Speaker 2>federal agents in what DHS has since claimed was a

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote targeted enforcement operation. As Customs and Border Protection

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<v Speaker 2>approached the vehicle, the family inside stread of recording on

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<v Speaker 2>their cell phones and asked for identification. When the family

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<v Speaker 2>refused to roll down the windows of the car, federal

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>agents smashed windows on both sides of the vehicle and

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<v Speaker 2>reached inside. At this point, the driver pulled the car forward,

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<v Speaker 2>and federal agents shot at the vehicle three times before

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<v Speaker 2>the car sped away. I'll play the video here for posterity.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, do you want what do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Identification? You can't do So those three pops at the

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<v Speaker 2>end were the three gunshots.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is a wild one.

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<v Speaker 2>The driver told NBC Los Angeles, quote, I had to

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<v Speaker 2>protect my life and my family unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's worth noting. I guess these agents like the

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<v Speaker 4>more uniform than some.

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have badges visible on plate carriers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They did not establish much communication between themselves and the

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>family as they approached the vehicle. There's a lot of

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 2>like yelling back and forth.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. You can hear the man telling his son they

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<v Speaker 4>don't open it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The father is telling his kids in the car not

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<v Speaker 2>to roll down the windows, not to open the doors

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 2>as the federal agents asked for the car to be opened,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>and then they initiate force. The man here has lived

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<v Speaker 2>in the US for twenty three years and does not

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 2>have legal status as to adult sons who are in

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<v Speaker 2>the vehicle are both US citizens, according to Javier Hernandez,

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<v Speaker 2>the executive director of the Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice,

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 2>who has spoken about this incident on behalf of the

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 2>family to local press. DHS gave a statement to NBC

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles. Quote, in the course of the incident, the

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 2>suspect drove his car at the officers and struck two

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Customs of Voter Protection officers with his vehicle on quote,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that because the driver tried to quoteunquote run down

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>the agents, a CPB officer was forced to quote discharge

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>his firearm in self defense unquote. So that is the

0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>justification that they are using, is that this vehicle was

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<v Speaker 2>moving in the direction of office and officers acted in

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<v Speaker 2>self defense by shooting at the car.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't seem to line up with the video that

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 4>we just saw.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the cell phone footage from inside does not show

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>officers being hit by the vehicle. It could be the

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>case that you can see that one of the officers

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>reaching into the car. You can see if the car

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 2>was pulling away, his arm may have the door. Like

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 2>the officers are standing next to the car in the video,

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not clear that there's any officers placed in front

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>of the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, his foot could have got run over. Maybe

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 4>if he's like leaning standing there close to the.

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>Car, the car may have bumped officers. It does not

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 2>appear like this man I was trying to quote unquote

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>run over the police.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, he was driving away from them. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The family says that the federal agents refused to identify

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 2>themselves and did not provide a judicial warrant that DHS

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>has refused to answer whether agents had warrants, and after

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the shooting, the driver called the San Bernardino Police Department

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to report that massman pulled his car over, broke windows,

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>and shot at him and his family. Police came to

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 2>his house and spoke with the driver, but did not

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.840
<v Speaker 2>arrest the man because California police cannot legally assist federal

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 2>agents with immigration enforcement, according to a statement from the

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 2>police department, DHS made a statement criticizing the police for

0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>not taking the driver into custody. Quote. This reckless decision

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>came despite the subject's outright refusal to comply, and his

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 2>wounding of two federal officers has yet another tragic example

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of California's pro sanctuary policies that shield criminals instead of

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 2>protecting communities. En quote, this is.

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<v Speaker 3>What we're calling wounding.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>The severity of the two officers alleged woundings has not

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 2>been specified. Police later returned to the home along with

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 2>ICE and Homeland security investigations, but the family did not

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>let them enter as they did not have a warrant,

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 2>though police made one non immigration related arrest outside of

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the home as community members rallied to other in support

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.280
<v Speaker 2>of the family. As of two days ago, the DHS

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 2>has said that quote the suspect remains at large.

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<v Speaker 4>Christ This is a needless escalation that put people in danger.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, what else is there to say? Though, Like

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 3>it's bullshit. This is not an excuse to discharge a weapon.

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 3>This isn't count as wounding. These people should never been

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 3>pulled over in the first place. But you know what

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 3>we are where we are, this is the way ice works.

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, then this will probably happen again. I guess, like,

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm mildly surprised if Sam Benardino police did not detain

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 4>the man on suspicion of assaulting a federal agent, which

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 4>is something that they could detain him for. It's not

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 4>immigration crime. Yeah, and that is an extremely broad defense,

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.959
<v Speaker 4>and one doesn't have to know the person's a federal agent,

0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:53.640
<v Speaker 4>for example.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess, like where, We'll see how this develops. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still unclear what's going to happened to this man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll check for an update next week. A few days before,

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<v Speaker 2>on Thursday, August fourteenth, a man fleeing in ice rate

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<v Speaker 2>at a home depot in Monrovia, California, was hit and

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<v Speaker 2>killed while attempting to cross the two to ten freeway

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<v Speaker 2>on foot. Local activists say that during the same raid,

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<v Speaker 2>ice hit someone in the leg with one of their

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<v Speaker 2>vehicles and that person was taken into custody.

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<v Speaker 4>This is tragic, right, Yeah. The reckless use of vehicles

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<v Speaker 4>in LA was remarkable, and I've covered a good deal

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<v Speaker 4>of protests and a good deal of places. The use

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<v Speaker 4>of vehicles in an extremely dangerous way by police was notable.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was out there covering the protests. I think

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<v Speaker 4>it was in June. It was something that in certainly

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<v Speaker 4>was very concerning to me. So it would not shock

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<v Speaker 4>me if people had been hit by an ICE vehicle.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, this is a tragedy. And again and like,

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<v Speaker 4>because the stakes are taking everything in someone's life away

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<v Speaker 4>from them, we're going to see this happen more often.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, No, it can cause people to do brash, run

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<v Speaker 2>safe things like attempt to cross the busy freeway.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the two tens are very busy freeway always.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, it's extremely tragic.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is yeah, really sad. So Ed Sauce reporting

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<v Speaker 4>that a student out of California, Benjamin Guerrero Kruth, who

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<v Speaker 4>had just turned eighteen, just begind a senior year of

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<v Speaker 4>high school, was detained by immigration authorities from walking his dog.

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<v Speaker 4>One of his former teachers visited him and mentioned that

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<v Speaker 4>he had overheard He had told her that he had

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<v Speaker 4>overheard ICE agent talking about receiving a fifteen hundred dollar

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<v Speaker 4>bounty for making his arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, like in some promotional videos from DHS and ICE,

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<v Speaker 2>they've been boasting about bonuses not only for signing on

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<v Speaker 2>for this recruitment ry that they're doing, but also like

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<v Speaker 2>cash bonuses for immigrants getting arrested and deported. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>been multiple clips of of of of agents like talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this or like you know, talking about I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>how much of a bonus we're going to get for

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<v Speaker 2>these batch of arrests. So this is this has been

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<v Speaker 2>something noticed in multiple states. I've heard of this in Florida,

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<v Speaker 2>and this sounds like it's in California.

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<v Speaker 4>You said, yeah, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, So this is this is a pattern, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not even very glorified bounty hunting, because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really glorified but essentially essentially bounty hunting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that might be why we're seeing some of these

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<v Speaker 4>like insane arrests right of people who would never normally

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<v Speaker 4>expect to see.

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<v Speaker 1>We reported the news there.

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