Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist. I feel the earth move under my feet.
Speaker 2: It's a banger, dude. You can't remember when like they
Speaker 2: made movies where like natural disasters were the big bad guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like Twister.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, there is I was just exactly what I
Speaker 2: was thinking, Matt.
Speaker 1: This one's called twisters plural. Yeah, there's Inferno. Now there's
Speaker 1: two where the bad guys a fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the towering one, right, isn't that right? Towering fron
Speaker 2: I mean maybe there was a there's probably another one
Speaker 2: in the two thousands that was just Inferno.
Speaker 1: There's I believe there's one.
Speaker 2: Where like the moon is the bad guy because it's
Speaker 2: gonna hit the earth moonshot.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking the one with Purece Brosnan, that Inferno.
Speaker 2: I'm certain it's just the Towering. Inferno is a seventies movie,
Speaker 2: so I'm certain that just they just dropped the Towering
Speaker 2: because that sounds dated and put Pierce Brosen in it
Speaker 2: because he was James Bond. That'll probably sell tickets. But
Speaker 2: while that may be sort of a dated format, you know,
Speaker 2: for for tent pole Hollywood action movies, seismic activity is
Speaker 2: no oak, y'all.
Speaker 1: No, if you've ever been in an earthquake. You know,
Speaker 1: I've never been in a big one, just ten blowers.
Speaker 2: Now, neither of I've really I've not been in. I've
Speaker 2: only heard sound from it or like you know, I
Speaker 2: saw reports on the news, but I've never actually felt
Speaker 2: a tremor in my life.
Speaker 3: Well, guys, today's episode may not even be about a tremor.
Speaker 3: This is one of the weirdest events that I can recall.
Speaker 3: We talked about it. This is an earthquake type event
Speaker 3: that was released as a perfect clean sin wave that
Speaker 3: happened underneath the ocean. But earthquakes don't do that, So
Speaker 3: what the heck was down there?
Speaker 1: November eleventh, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: Cuthulu wakes, Oh man, you have me at sine wave?
Speaker 4: Matt, Oh, I know I would.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 1: Let's jump in.
Speaker 5: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
Speaker 3: name is.
Speaker 1: Dol They call me Ben. We are joined with our
Speaker 1: guest super producer, Casey the quake Pegram, So everybody say
Speaker 1: hello to him. And most importantly, you are you, you
Speaker 1: are here that makes this stuff. They don't want you
Speaker 1: to know. A groundbreaking episode in a number of ways. Oh,
Speaker 1: earth shattering perhaps. Yeah, it's our first it's our first
Speaker 1: time getting back together after the in the new year,
Speaker 1: after the relatively arbitrary end of December twenty eighteen. I mean,
Speaker 1: just it's just me going out of my way to
Speaker 1: be disrespectful to the Gregorian calendar system, Yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a man made thing.
Speaker 3: It is that we've discussed on the show.
Speaker 2: They say it's the anniversary of our obsession with arbitrary time.
Speaker 1: I think Hallmark's going to put some cards out that
Speaker 1: just say that, right.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you can almost breathe now by the way.
Speaker 3: I went out outside like last night, the night before,
Speaker 3: and you just can not breathe because of all the
Speaker 3: leftover smoke and stuff that's in the air.
Speaker 2: And it's weird because overnight everything outside looks like Blade Runner. Now, yes,
Speaker 2: this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Just switched really like that meme that was making the
Speaker 1: rounds in December reminding everyone to dress and Blade Runner
Speaker 1: appropriate clothing. H So unlike Blade Runner and unlike the
Speaker 1: Gregorian calendar. Earthquakes like that segue are a natural phenomenon.
Speaker 1: We didn't make those up. They've just been around. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know if we talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show before, but do you ever No,
Speaker 1: I know you hate birds, but I walk around sometimes
Speaker 1: these our modern days and think, you know, have we
Speaker 1: as humans really figured out things of significance. I mean, sure,
Speaker 1: we can put stuff into space, but birds can still
Speaker 1: fly around and shut on anyone whenever they want to,
Speaker 1: because you only have an umbrella if it's raining, and
Speaker 1: we also can't do much about that. Earthquakes are kind
Speaker 1: of like that. They're kind of like a Mother Nature's
Speaker 1: way of reminding you that you can get shot upon
Speaker 1: at any given point, you know, unless you're on the
Speaker 1: moon or something. But earthquakes have been around. They've been
Speaker 1: terrorizing humanity since before the dawn of recorded history.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: And it comes about because the planet appears to be
Speaker 1: a stable surface. We even have cliches about it, figures
Speaker 1: of speech, like a rock, right, the old Chevy campaign, Oh,
Speaker 1: like a rock.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: And the thing is that this is misleading because the planet,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure many of us know, is not a
Speaker 1: stable surface, not remotely. It may look like it's a
Speaker 1: stable surface, kind of the way that everyone looks like
Speaker 1: they might be cool and chill on the first date.
Speaker 1: But then once you get into the layers, you see
Speaker 1: this is a complex network of interacting catastrophic traumatic forces.
Speaker 1: Am I saying that? Am I comparing dates to earthquakes? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Twenty nineteen, we're all figuring it out together.
Speaker 2: I certainly we both have the potential for some bumping
Speaker 2: and grinding.
Speaker 1: Hey, there we go, good save. And it's weird when
Speaker 1: you think about how strange and upsetting these things have been.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever been in an earthquake? Do we
Speaker 1: talk about this on the air before?
Speaker 2: Well, it was apparently one that everyone felt here at Atlanta.
Speaker 2: The other a couple weeks ago, but I slept right
Speaker 2: through it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the night.
Speaker 2: My kid woke up and told me she had a
Speaker 2: dream about an earthquake, which is kind of weird. No way,
Speaker 2: So maybe she made it happen with her dream mind.
Speaker 3: Super EmPATH over there. I've never been in one, but
Speaker 3: I was in San Francisco recently and we went over
Speaker 3: the Bay Bridge, and on the radio, as we're going
Speaker 3: over this huge bridge, they're discussing how it was the
Speaker 3: anniversary it was in October of this massive earthquake in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty nine. I think that actually flattened part of
Speaker 3: that bridge, like while people were driving underneath it. It
Speaker 3: was a really really horrifying to think about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never been in a major earthquake, which I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess, go me, but it's a but I have been.
Speaker 1: When I was living abroad, earthquakes were more common than
Speaker 1: they are here in Atlanta, Georgia, and I was freaked out.
Speaker 1: I was just eating breakfast with a host family and
Speaker 1: then everything just sort of jiggles. Yeah, that I'm shaking
Speaker 1: the table. Everyone everything jiggles just for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Nobody else loses skips a beat, right, really loses a step.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the structure really sound that you were in.
Speaker 1: No, it was just a small one. It was just
Speaker 1: a little, well, little shiver, little Central American shiver in
Speaker 1: the soil. And then they explained to me that that
Speaker 1: wasn't anything to get excited about. That probably wouldn't even
Speaker 1: make a decent landslide. And the idea that was rated
Speaker 1: is a decent landslide. It's also strange but these things
Speaker 1: have been around, and we'll talk about how people win
Speaker 1: the dark lottery that is an earthquake. But this might
Speaker 1: surprise some of us to learn that although these things
Speaker 1: have been around forever or much longer than people, we
Speaker 1: as a species didn't really start understanding what causes them
Speaker 1: until maybe like maybe a century ago we started. And
Speaker 1: it's true, way back in the thirteen hundreds and other
Speaker 1: periods of time, there were inventors who had figured out
Speaker 1: ways to detect earthquakes right, detect seismic disturbance, but we
Speaker 1: didn't really understand why it happened, much less were we
Speaker 1: capable of developing technology to measure the magnitudeness signif way,
Speaker 1: and today's episode is about the latest unexplained seismic event
Speaker 1: because spoiler alert, we still don't know near as much
Speaker 1: as we thought we knew about earthquakes, and Matt, this
Speaker 1: is something that you hipped us to off the air. Recently,
Speaker 1: there was a global wave of earthquakes that somehow rang
Speaker 1: the earth like a bell? Right, what was even mean?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess first things first, if we want
Speaker 1: to figure out what happened recently, we have to understand
Speaker 1: what an earthquake is. And luckily we are affiliated with
Speaker 1: a website called how Stuff Works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that writes articles about these kinds of things.
Speaker 2: We're also remembering a lot of this from our physical
Speaker 2: science classes.
Speaker 3: That's right, That's right, Noel is going off solely physical
Speaker 3: science from what is that Houghton Mithlin is.
Speaker 1: That the they put out the textbooks.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it may have been a different company,
Speaker 2: but I know they did a lot of them.
Speaker 3: It rings true, just like the Earth was not long ago.
Speaker 3: So technically, an earthquake is just that it's a vibration
Speaker 3: that travels through the Earth's Earth's crust, that that thing
Speaker 3: that we walk around on every day and pretend like
Speaker 3: it's completely stable and everything's okay. And like we've kind
Speaker 3: of discussed, earthquakes can be caused by all kinds of
Speaker 3: different things, everything from if a meteor happens to travel,
Speaker 3: you know, into the Earth's atmosphere and then impact with
Speaker 3: the Earth's crust, you will get a nice earthquake that
Speaker 3: will also end a lot of lives, probably if not
Speaker 3: in the entire human species. They can also be caused
Speaker 3: by volcanic eruptions that are occurring beneath the crust and
Speaker 3: sometimes as a part of the crust. And it can
Speaker 3: also sometimes be made by man made things, you know,
Speaker 3: mind collapses, underground nuclear tests, which is a topic that
Speaker 3: we've discussed before. There's a lot of technology trying to
Speaker 3: get those fracking and fracking that's the big one. Even
Speaker 3: saying it sounds like it's a bad thing. Oh but
Speaker 3: here's the thing. Most naturally occurring earthquakes are caused by this, uh,
Speaker 3: the Earth's crust itself, when there are these moving pieces
Speaker 3: of the Earth's crust called tectonic plates. Now there's really
Speaker 3: getting back to that physical science class.
Speaker 2: I confirmed it. Tote Mifflin did make physical science books
Speaker 2: so good they're still in print, new editions every year.
Speaker 2: It's a racket. It's beautiful, it's not, it's it's awful.
Speaker 3: Well, there's Macmillan's huge, that's true.
Speaker 2: McMillan's also big. But don't you remember like the whole idea,
Speaker 2: like the textbook racket, how it's like, you know, you
Speaker 2: have to buy it from this exact monopoly on them.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's a whole episode probably that we should do.
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 3: So plates, so plates, Yeah, let's let's just keep going.
Speaker 3: Scientists didn't come up with any real solid theory that
Speaker 3: explained exactly what an earthquake was or what caused it
Speaker 3: until the mid nineteen sixties, and they call this theory
Speaker 3: plate tectonics. There you go.
Speaker 1: So here's the gist. Earth has a crust, which you
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, Matt, and people who want to sound authoritative
Speaker 1: or accurate, we'll call it the lithosphere. You hear it,
Speaker 1: smart people, usually because they're seismologists, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And they probably think crust is for cake. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're a seismologist. Right in, this crust is
Speaker 1: not a single seamless shell. Instead, it is composed of
Speaker 1: layers of plates, and these things every day are sort
Speaker 1: of bumping into each other while they float on this
Speaker 1: lubricant layer called the esthenosphere. And all the hijinks seismically speaking,
Speaker 1: in the world on the planet happens at the boundaries
Speaker 1: of these plates. Sort of the way, since I'm just
Speaker 1: doing terrible comparisons for twenty nineteen, apparently, is sort of
Speaker 1: the way that a lot of the really crazy stuff
Speaker 1: that happens in many countries happens at the border towns,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's and these high jinks
Speaker 1: take a number of forms, so we don't want to
Speaker 1: get to into the weeds here, but just so you
Speaker 1: have the gist first, there's something called the divergent plate boundary.
Speaker 1: Plates might move apart, allowing magma ok molten rock to
Speaker 1: reach the surface as lava, and this stuff, once it
Speaker 1: reaches the surface, cools and adds to the crust, essentially
Speaker 1: functioning the way that kulk functions, filling in the space
Speaker 1: between tiles. If you've ever you know, if you've ever
Speaker 1: laid tiles somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yes, And then there are convergent plate boundaries, which is
Speaker 3: pretty much the exact opposite of that, where at the
Speaker 3: boundary of two plates they are kind of squishing together,
Speaker 3: and that's when you can get mountains formed where a
Speaker 3: lot of volcanic activity occurs. That kind of thing.
Speaker 1: It's literally pushing up volcanoes too, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: And also sometimes pushing down like it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: They just they've you can imagine all the different things
Speaker 3: that two very strong and heavy things do when they
Speaker 3: push against.
Speaker 1: Each other very insistent forces. Yeah, they can subduct and
Speaker 1: that creates mountains for our purposes today. The next category
Speaker 1: is the most important. It's where two plates sort of
Speaker 1: slide by one another, like two ships in the night
Speaker 1: or two trucks on an interstate, just sideswiping each other.
Speaker 2: They very slowly, and that is what is known as
Speaker 2: a transform boundary, where energy builds up in the region
Speaker 2: between the two plates, and that forms a fault line
Speaker 2: or a break in the earth crust where blocks of
Speaker 2: crust are moving in different directions. And I'm already picturing
Speaker 2: the beautifully color coded image from that physical science book
Speaker 2: where it has big fat arrows going in either direction
Speaker 2: and the plate pieces, one in purple and one in
Speaker 2: like red, kind of overlapping each other and like grinding
Speaker 2: against each other in different directions, and that's what creates.
Speaker 3: That fault in a weird way. This one is the
Speaker 3: scariest to me for some reason, and I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think it should be the one where the plates
Speaker 3: are actually moving away from each other, because that's in
Speaker 3: my head, when you get the lava coming out, when
Speaker 3: you get the whole opening up with a fissure or something.
Speaker 3: But these two, if you've ever seen the images in
Speaker 3: I believe it was in Japan during the last major
Speaker 3: tsunami that occurred there where you can actually see parts
Speaker 3: of the street that are doing this movement, like moving
Speaker 3: in parallel next to each other, that for some reason
Speaker 3: terrifies me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're talking about fault lines, right, and the majority
Speaker 1: of earthquakes, not all, but the majority happen along these
Speaker 1: transform boundary fault lines. And there are some there are
Speaker 1: different types of fault lines, there are different types of
Speaker 1: seismic waves. But again, this is just the gist. This
Speaker 1: is just what we need to know. That's it's how
Speaker 1: an earthquake works. So how many quakes are we talking?
Speaker 1: This is where it starts to get pretty interesting, because
Speaker 1: the US Geological Survey estimates that there are as many
Speaker 1: as one point three million quakes with a magnitude greater
Speaker 1: than two point zero on the Richter scale. That's the
Speaker 1: threshold at which humans can feel the vibrations. Stuff less
Speaker 1: than that might really freak out your household pet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But this two point zero
Speaker 1: is where you get to the legit people, spider sense
Speaker 1: goes off for it.
Speaker 3: And there are one point three million of them.
Speaker 1: Which is pretty nuts, right, Yeah, I guess because we
Speaker 1: only hear about the real terrible ones on the news
Speaker 1: that we have a lot of these pass without ever,
Speaker 1: you know, registering on our radar, so to speak. So
Speaker 1: in general, the majority of earthquakes are not going to
Speaker 1: be particularly powerful. They're also not going to last for
Speaker 1: very long at all, even the catastrophic ones. Strong ground
Speaker 1: shaking during a moderate or large earthquake lasts maybe thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: ten to thirty seconds. And then after that, after you
Speaker 1: you know, you shake up one part of the of
Speaker 1: the earth, other parts around it start to shake as well.
Speaker 1: So then you can have timblers, and you can have
Speaker 1: aftershocks and things like that. And most of these things,
Speaker 1: these aftershocks can happen for like weeks or months later,
Speaker 1: but you probably still won't notice them, because again, most
Speaker 1: earthquakes are not very powerful, and many, many, many of
Speaker 1: them occur in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: I always thought the word timbler sounded like a cute,
Speaker 2: like diminutive earthquake, but apparently they can be quite catastrophic
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: What is it that is true?
Speaker 4: A timbler?
Speaker 3: Timbler?
Speaker 1: Yeah, or timble?
Speaker 2: It sounds like a timble.
Speaker 3: You know, it sounds like an app It just sounds cute, Yeah.
Speaker 2: But no, it's a big deal. And like you said, Ben,
Speaker 2: it's a chain reaction and it all depends on the
Speaker 2: magnitude of the first one. I guess as to how
Speaker 2: bad the aftershock and the other things that it causes
Speaker 2: later will be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we are enormously fortunate too that most earthquakes
Speaker 1: are so very small, and it's this brutal lottery. You
Speaker 1: know that in case of the rare quake capable of
Speaker 1: touching up population center, it can destroy the city in minutes,
Speaker 1: just like you were talking about Matt with the with
Speaker 1: the road moving in different directions, things that should be
Speaker 1: solid appearing fluid for even a moment's time. You know,
Speaker 1: these things can wreak enormous amounts of property damage and
Speaker 1: more importantly, they can claim thousands of lives. And we
Speaker 1: have some statistics about that as well.
Speaker 3: I think, oh yeah, over the last decade alone, earthquakes
Speaker 3: and then the tsunamis avalanches landslides that follow because of
Speaker 3: these earthquakes, they've killed over six hundred and eighty eight
Speaker 3: thousand people around the world. That that's insane over the
Speaker 3: course of ten years, and arguably the most lethal quake
Speaker 3: in history had a magnitude of eight point zero and
Speaker 3: this one occurred quite a long time ago in China
Speaker 3: and the Shengxi province in fifteen fifty six. And you
Speaker 3: can imagine this structural engineering has come a long way
Speaker 3: since fifteen fifty six. And just the devastation that occurred
Speaker 3: when that eight point zero struck that city.
Speaker 2: It goes close to a million people, Yeah, were killed. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's I mean, I just can't imagine. And one fell swoop.
Speaker 1: And they didn't expect it too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And it was the earth itself attacking in a way.
Speaker 1: That's a poetic way to put it.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting, Matt, like you mentioned San Francisco, and
Speaker 2: especially in places that are more prone to earthquakes, they
Speaker 2: build out their infrastructure with that in mind, like houses
Speaker 2: on stilts and things of that nature. And that's probably
Speaker 2: not something they would have even considered at this time.
Speaker 1: This is about several hundred years after they built maybe
Speaker 1: the first early earthquake detector, which looks really cool. It's
Speaker 1: the way that it works is if certain parts of
Speaker 1: the world shake, then these balls rolled down into this
Speaker 1: dragon's mouth and points in whatever cardinal direction that the
Speaker 1: astrophe occurred who but they didn't know how to build
Speaker 1: something that would stand and act of the heavens right,
Speaker 1: and the survivors adapted as best they could. There was
Speaker 1: one scholar who survived the quake and later provided us
Speaker 1: what may very well be the first earthquake preparedness advice
Speaker 1: in history. He said, at the very beginning of the earthquake,
Speaker 1: people indoors should not go out immediately, just crouched down
Speaker 1: and wait for chances. Even if the nest is collapsed,
Speaker 1: some eggs in it may still be kept intact.
Speaker 3: Yikes.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's eloquent, but it's also frightening, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's counterintuitive as well. And again I've never
Speaker 3: experienced it personally, but my first instinct would be get
Speaker 3: out into open land where there's nothing above fall on you.
Speaker 3: But then you have to imagine trees and all the
Speaker 3: other buildings, and especially if you're in a city, just
Speaker 3: all the things that could be falling on you in
Speaker 3: debris and.
Speaker 1: The ground opening up beneath you. Yeah, yea, or landslides
Speaker 1: much slides, right. So that's that's the science and those
Speaker 1: are the stakes. So let's fast forward to the morning
Speaker 1: of November eleventh, nine thirty Universal time quick note for everyone.
Speaker 1: Universal time or UT is the modern version of Greenwich meantime.
Speaker 1: So nine thirty Universal Time nine thirty AM would be
Speaker 1: four to thirty am here on the east coast of
Speaker 1: the North American continent.
Speaker 3: So these seismic waves begin roughly fifteen miles off the
Speaker 3: shore of Mayote. This is a French island that's kind
Speaker 3: of sandwiched between Africa and the northern tip of Madagascar.
Speaker 3: You can look it up. It's a cool looking little place.
Speaker 3: The waves just started buzzing across Africa and there it
Speaker 3: started ringing sensors all across the Earth, in Zambia, at
Speaker 3: least in this area, Kenya, Ethiopia. They traversed across the oceans.
Speaker 3: There were hum all the way over to Chile, all
Speaker 3: the way to New Zealand, to Canada, even Hawaii nearly
Speaker 3: eleven thousand miles away. So just this one tiny place
Speaker 3: on Earth just starts.
Speaker 1: Well, that's a really good sound effect, kind of a gurgle.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Unlike the earthquakes that we've talked about,
Speaker 3: with these waves, you can feel and again the waves
Speaker 3: versus what you can feel can be slightly different depending
Speaker 3: on the frequency, but they didn't just you know, ding
Speaker 3: or and go by. It lasted for over twenty minutes.
Speaker 3: Twenty minutes of this And here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Not only was no one hurt by this event or
Speaker 1: no one hurt during this event, no one knew it happened,
Speaker 1: at least that is until a lone Twitter user noticed
Speaker 1: the ODDS signal on the US Geological Surveys real time
Speaker 1: seismogram displays, and this set off another chain of events.
Speaker 1: No all right, Seismologists around the world tried to figure
Speaker 1: out why this quake was so unusual and how it happened.
Speaker 1: So what did they find? We will tell you after
Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor. Years where it gets crazy.
Speaker 1: No one knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, still right now, nobody knows.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what happened.
Speaker 3: So this this occurred on November eleventh, again, November eleventh
Speaker 3: of twenty eighteen, and as of right now we're in
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. I guess that's not that far of a runway.
Speaker 3: But we still don't know what happened. And we've been
Speaker 3: studying these earthquakes for a while. We have very sensitive
Speaker 3: equipment across the globe, like we said it was noticed
Speaker 3: in all these different places, but we're still in the dark.
Speaker 1: So yeah, one of the reasons we're in the dark
Speaker 1: is that this quake is unusual, add several strange attributes.
Speaker 1: Not only did it last for a cartoonishly long amount
Speaker 1: of time, it also did not behave like any other
Speaker 1: known quake in a normal earthqua. These built up tensions
Speaker 1: again along that transform boundary, right, These built up tensions
Speaker 1: in the lithosphere release with a jolt in seconds, and
Speaker 1: this sends out a series of others, smaller pops, a
Speaker 1: series of waves known as a wave train, which sounds
Speaker 1: like something way more cool, doesn't it. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1: A wavetrain is not this awesome car and an Amtrak line.
Speaker 1: It's the series of seismic waves that radiate out from
Speaker 1: the point of wherever this rupture occurs, like ripples in water,
Speaker 1: Like ripples of water. That's excellent. Yeah, And we have
Speaker 1: descriptions from seismologists like Stephen Hicks at the University of
Speaker 1: Southampton who he breaks down the order in which these
Speaker 1: waves occur. So the fastest traveling signals are the ones
Speaker 1: called They're called the primary waves, and the seismologists call
Speaker 1: them the pee waves, I know, but they move in
Speaker 1: bunches like what happens to an extended slinky when you
Speaker 1: suddenly push it at one end. Yes, you can see
Speaker 1: that wave occur, and then they're you know, the wave
Speaker 1: chain continues. Yea.
Speaker 3: Then you get secondary waves or S waves, and these
Speaker 3: have more of a side to side motion. And both
Speaker 3: these two, the primary and the S waves, have relatively
Speaker 3: high frequencies, and Hicks describes them as a sort of
Speaker 3: ping rather than a rumbling.
Speaker 2: And after that then you have these slow, kind of
Speaker 2: longer period surface waves that show up. And these are
Speaker 2: the ones that most closely resemble the signals from Mayot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird because there's no big earthquake, right,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to come third in line.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Here they are again just sort of happening. It's a
Speaker 2: little irritating to scientists, right, well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you get just get these surface waves all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, and what the hell is happening here? Guys?
Speaker 3: Anyone go on Twitter, Hey what's this? And then just
Speaker 3: a Twitter storm occurred?
Speaker 1: Right exactly what the hell is going on? Is there
Speaker 1: no order to this chaotic and uncarrying, inexplicable universe? Right,
Speaker 1: seismologists weren't grappling with philosophical quandtries of that nature. They
Speaker 1: were they were more focused on figuring out why this
Speaker 1: thing is happening. Right, And now we're at the point
Speaker 1: where there are several theories, some that are more plausible
Speaker 1: than others. We can we can walk through some of these.
Speaker 1: They get increasingly exciting. One what about a meteor What
Speaker 1: if a meteorite somehow caused earthquakes? Initially, scientists searched the
Speaker 1: region around this island to see whether there was any
Speaker 1: evidence that a non terrestrial object could be the culprit
Speaker 1: behind the quake. So far, no one has found any
Speaker 1: compelling proof. So this theory, while it has some sand
Speaker 1: to it, can be safe dismissed.
Speaker 3: And I guess in a way this could make sense,
Speaker 3: I guess to someone theorizing about it because you don't
Speaker 3: have those those P and S waves that are associated
Speaker 3: with that quick jolt, right, That's why this one was
Speaker 3: thought to be possible.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, good point.
Speaker 3: Just because I guess if you had the surface waves
Speaker 3: of or the surface and literally the surface of the
Speaker 3: water being impacted without that deep cracking, I guess that
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me, But again not that yes,
Speaker 1: so not that they So what if it were not
Speaker 1: an act of nature in its random you know, infinite
Speaker 1: monkeys typing nine infinite typewriters sort of scenario, What if
Speaker 1: somehow human beings are responsible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing. Scientists tend to want to
Speaker 2: take care to not accidentally veer into bananas conspiracy theory territory.
Speaker 2: But the way these waves behaved, the regularity of them
Speaker 2: was quite extraordinary, quite remarkable. So you see that long
Speaker 2: low frequency grumble is kind of punctuated by a series
Speaker 2: of high frequency blips signals. It turns out that have
Speaker 2: very regular intervals like this often tend to be artificially generated.
Speaker 2: That's just how it is.
Speaker 3: And yeah, as you're reading about this event, because you
Speaker 3: can find it in places from Gizmoto to Big Think,
Speaker 3: they are they discuss how these tiny little pings occurred,
Speaker 3: as Nola was saying, like clockwork. That's just if you're
Speaker 3: looking at the wave forms, it would literally be as
Speaker 3: though someone is playing an instrument or hitting something or
Speaker 3: a mechanical device is triggering at an exact time. It's
Speaker 3: so weird.
Speaker 1: And it's spooky. This is kind of a matter of interpretation,
Speaker 1: but it is it feels way more plausible or way
Speaker 1: more probable, rather that this is somehow man made. When
Speaker 1: you hear it, yes, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 1: sounds similar to machinery in terms of the intervals. But
Speaker 1: our species has been fooled before, right, we First we
Speaker 1: have to admit we have found no evidence of heavy
Speaker 1: industry in the area, at least nothing that people know
Speaker 1: of so far. Right, and to be fair, we have
Speaker 1: encountered other natural processes and phenomena and objects that have
Speaker 1: the appearance of regularity. When pulsars came out in the
Speaker 1: we're discovered, I guess it's a better way to say it.
Speaker 1: When pulsars were discovered in the nineteen sixties, people were
Speaker 1: convinced they were generated by intelligent life.
Speaker 3: Oh, hands down.
Speaker 1: And even looking at a pulsar now it's like, okay.
Speaker 3: Really, you're gonna make that light exactly that many times
Speaker 3: at that rate?
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Because pulsars, you know, rapidly rotate and they
Speaker 1: have this kind of lighthouse appearance, and the flashes seem
Speaker 1: to be on a regular calculated frequency, right or interval.
Speaker 1: So the original source of pulsars. When it's discovered they
Speaker 1: were called lgms, which stood for little Green men. So
Speaker 1: we've been fulled before. This still could be some This
Speaker 1: still could be a natural phenomenon rather than you know,
Speaker 1: a large scale fracking or something. So there's no evidence
Speaker 1: of something man made that's large enough to produce this kind.
Speaker 3: Of global event that we know about.
Speaker 1: That we know about, that's correct, So what if we
Speaker 1: look more closely under the water.
Speaker 3: And for that we go to the French Geological Survey
Speaker 3: or the BRGM, and it's closely monitoring the recent shaking
Speaker 3: and it's suggests that there's a new center of volcanic
Speaker 3: activity that may be developing off the coast of Mayote.
Speaker 3: Because Mayote was formed from volcanism or volcanoes volcanic activity,
Speaker 3: but the volcanoes in this area have just they haven't
Speaker 3: erupted in over four thousand years. So basically the thinking was, well,
Speaker 3: perhaps that's not the first go to just because it's
Speaker 3: been dormant for so long. But the BRGM, again, the
Speaker 3: French Geological Survey's analysis, it suggests that this new activity
Speaker 3: may point to magmatic movement offshore. And we're talking we're
Speaker 3: not talking like, take a few steps. We're talking miles
Speaker 3: from the coast under thousands of feet of water.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, Matt, Matt, So yeah, I have to interject
Speaker 1: because this is one of my I propose this be
Speaker 1: the word of the day. Okay, episode that was Some
Speaker 1: people may have thought that you were mispronouncing magnetic, but
Speaker 1: you're not. Oh you're saying magmatic.
Speaker 3: Yes, magmatic.
Speaker 1: What a great word.
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, magmatic.
Speaker 1: I like volcanism too, volcanism magmatic. Yeah. I think the
Speaker 1: reason a lot of people get into the science of
Speaker 1: this stuff is because the names are so cool.
Speaker 2: It's fun to say.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, So if this is the case, then well here's
Speaker 2: my question. First of all, if they haven't rupted in
Speaker 2: four thousand years, doesn't that mean they're due for an eruption? Guys?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know how it works. And
Speaker 2: you think they could predict it, they could see if
Speaker 2: there was something. Where's all the lava?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly where's the lava? And if you think about
Speaker 3: some of the things we've discussed in a slightly different capacity,
Speaker 3: but with oh what the hell am I thinking here?
Speaker 3: The super volcano in the middle of the United Yes,
Speaker 3: and you think about that when you're talking about the
Speaker 3: interval of time, noal where it's been so long, we're
Speaker 3: just waiting for it to occur.
Speaker 1: But also it's the margin of error here is in
Speaker 1: terms of geologic geological time, right, we are but a blip,
Speaker 1: We are a we are an awkward thought in the
Speaker 1: very fleeting ephemera of Earth's mind. So this is when
Speaker 1: we see another proposal. And so folks at the E. N.
Speaker 1: S University in Paris say, hey, maybe it's not a meteor.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's magma draining from a site somewhere and it's
Speaker 1: caused in its magma draining from a subterranean reservoir. And
Speaker 1: when the magma is moving, the reservoir is collapsing, and
Speaker 1: this is causing quakes. And they looked at the GPS
Speaker 1: data and from that they said, okay, we think this
Speaker 1: kind of thing might happen if zero point three cubic
Speaker 1: miles of magma all moved at once, or they said,
Speaker 1: possibly sea monsters, the eldritchge dead and dreaming beast from
Speaker 1: the darkness between the stars, slumbering until the constellations reach
Speaker 1: a predetermined position. Not can I mean scientists did propose
Speaker 1: that multiple people.
Speaker 3: Actually they did some kind of eldritch beast.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they were joking. But you know, what
Speaker 1: would the show be if we don't include that part?
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 1: And speaking of the weird out there stuff, we did
Speaker 1: save the best theory. Sorry, I can't speak for everyone
Speaker 1: in my opinion the best theory.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm right there with you, Ben Concur, Oh.
Speaker 1: Great, we saved the best one. Then we're unanimous on this.
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Speaker 3: Wait the Vortex, huge dramatic music, the war.
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Speaker 4: Back in twenty thirteen, Wiki leaks released an article alleging
Speaker 4: that a mysterious vortex opened over the Gulf of Aden,
Speaker 4: just off the Horn of Africa, which created catastrophic weather
Speaker 4: in the early two thousands.
Speaker 3: So like a portal, Just like a portal, but a vortex.
Speaker 1: Fortse Yeah, but this is what we're talking wikiliks, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: WikiLeaks did release this. It was according to a report
Speaker 1: allegedly prepared by an Admiral Maximov of Russia's Northern Fleet
Speaker 1: for Vladimir Putin. What they said was in late two thousand,
Speaker 1: the specific year two thousand, there was a magnetic vortex
Speaker 1: that was discovered in this area that you just described,
Speaker 1: matt in the Gulf of Aden. And according to the story, Russia,
Speaker 1: the People's Republic of China, and the USA joined together,
Speaker 1: cast aside their paltry human differences to study what this
Speaker 1: vortex was, and they discovered that it defied logic and
Speaker 1: the laws of physics. This sent the world the conspiracy sphere,
Speaker 1: kind of like the lithosphere, I guess, on fire. And
Speaker 1: with the recent reports of audun events near mayott More,
Speaker 1: theorists are resurrecting this story, and who can blame them?
Speaker 3: It's a great story, dude, doe. The cover story from
Speaker 3: the governments was that all of these navies were joining
Speaker 3: forces to combat Somali pirates.
Speaker 1: That's true, Yeah, that's true, which is strange when you
Speaker 1: think about how much firepower that.
Speaker 3: Would be, you know what I mean, Yeah, to fight
Speaker 3: a vortex or whatever was going to emerge from the vortex.
Speaker 1: And that's yeah, you've stump you've stumbled on it. So
Speaker 1: people have also connected this with something called the Norway
Speaker 1: spiral or Norway vortex, and people started I guess pretty
Speaker 1: quickly people began bringing aliens into the picture, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because why else would these geopolitical adversaries or at best
Speaker 1: frenemies cooperate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an alleged connection to Jupiter, which is which
Speaker 3: is fun about one of the large storms that's on
Speaker 3: Jupiter and the vortex showing up when the storm on
Speaker 3: Jupiter was re emerging. I could not correlate those two
Speaker 3: things together just in my own independent research, but it's
Speaker 3: been discussed about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are other earthquake related things too. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so we know some of these things are true. Weather
Speaker 1: manipulation is a real thing that occurs. China regularly practices this.
Speaker 1: Other countries have certainly dabbled with it. The US engaged
Speaker 1: in weather manipulation during the Vietnam War. For some people
Speaker 1: who believe this vortex exists, the world powers are cooperating
Speaker 1: to combat weather related shenanigans. But the people who spice
Speaker 1: this up with claims of extraterrestrial or even interdimensional contact
Speaker 1: alleged that world governments in secret have been able to
Speaker 1: contact or confront something not of this world.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm gonna go out on a lemon and say
Speaker 3: we probably didn't confront something from out of this world,
Speaker 3: because we would be squashed like a bug.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, front are get fronted, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have it? We're just mostly throwing iron
Speaker 3: and different metals that are just propelled at high speed
Speaker 3: at these things.
Speaker 1: It's true, we don't have any really cool stuff.
Speaker 3: Yet, explosives, I guess, sir.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you detonated a nuclear weapon, you
Speaker 1: would it's kind of cutting off your nose despite your face,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You'd find a seismic activity, some seismic activity though.
Speaker 1: That is true. That is true, and you will find
Speaker 1: reports that say a forty one earthquake or thirty five
Speaker 1: earthquakes occurred in a twenty four hour period in the
Speaker 1: Gulf of Aiden. And also a ton of military vessels
Speaker 1: and commercial vessels are in the Gulf of Aiden. It's
Speaker 1: a huge shipping lane for the world, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: But yes, but there's also one major problem, right, what's
Speaker 3: that the location? Location?
Speaker 1: That is okay, yes, yes, that is true. So the
Speaker 1: Gulf of Aiden is a seven hour plane flight away
Speaker 1: from Mayo. So while it could be considered sort of
Speaker 1: in the region, sure, it's not nearby. You don't pop
Speaker 1: over to the Gulf of Aiden to you know, pick
Speaker 1: up milk.
Speaker 3: I don't Knoweah, Well, you know, unless you're in some
Speaker 3: kind of vessel that is interdimensional in nature, or can
Speaker 3: travel faster than light, or even just travel extremely extremely
Speaker 3: fast and travel underwater, maybe you could get there really quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is really happening at the Gulf of Aiden?
Speaker 1: And where did these reports come from? So? Wiki leaks
Speaker 1: has been associated with legitimate stuff. The way they release
Speaker 1: it may have some sort of angle, right, but what
Speaker 1: they just I guess the better way to say it
Speaker 1: is WikiLeaks definitely has its own agenda. They do display
Speaker 1: editorial bias in the way that they release certain things
Speaker 1: and hold other ones in confidence. But usually when they
Speaker 1: release stuff, it's true or it's written in what it's
Speaker 1: written by someone who believes it to be true.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and it was a this is part of
Speaker 3: a strap for email at least a leak that came
Speaker 3: from the Global Intelligence files. Okay, this has occurred in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. February twenty seventh, that's when this specific email
Speaker 3: was released with the subject huh mysterious vortex warned it's
Speaker 3: creating warned is creating global weather catastrophe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for context, Stratfor is a intelligence platform, publisher
Speaker 1: kind of subscription service. You can also get some free
Speaker 1: emails from them. That was founded in Austin, Texas, and
Speaker 1: they report on geo political stuff, a lot of state
Speaker 1: craft and a lot of things that would be helpful
Speaker 1: to multinational corporations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and specifically weapons companies are built into this whole
Speaker 3: thing and intelligence and all that.
Speaker 1: So where can where can you get the best price
Speaker 1: selling guns things like that, honestly? Or where where our
Speaker 1: market's unstable? And so of course they would be concerned
Speaker 1: with these weird reports. I know what a lot of
Speaker 1: us are thinking. Did this email come out on April first? No?
Speaker 3: No, did not.
Speaker 1: First?
Speaker 3: Well, it was from a website called pack alert press
Speaker 3: dot com, and I mean it was a it was
Speaker 3: a news story at the time. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3: The source that was being like mentioned in this email
Speaker 3: that was sent or found within this leak. That's really
Speaker 3: what we're talking about here. The person that wrote the
Speaker 3: article or at least provided the information for the article.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another conspiracy here. This is this is an
Speaker 1: author or propagandist or group of authors or group of
Speaker 1: propagandists going by the handle sort of Fall, which sounds
Speaker 1: like a cool name from Star Wars.
Speaker 3: It really does. But they're known for putting out this
Speaker 3: kind of bogus. Again, it's propaganda or just disinformation, or
Speaker 3: just headlining or grabbing headlines that are completely false or
Speaker 3: at least based on this tiny little morsel of truth,
Speaker 3: and then just nothing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm with you my question, Yeah, to what
Speaker 1: end does this story of some strange vortex over the
Speaker 1: Gulf of Aiden help or hinder Russian operations if it
Speaker 1: really is, if it really is some sort of propaganda.
Speaker 1: I mean, have you read the It's essentially lore at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So.
Speaker 1: I guess the best way to say it is, do
Speaker 1: we all remember the film Stargate?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah? All right, so Stargate the villain is
Speaker 1: also the love interest in the Crying Game, correct, right.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: Stargate. The gist of Stargate is that ancient civilization was
Speaker 1: founded by extraterrestrials who possess a gate that lets one
Speaker 1: travel through time and space in an unorthodox, much more
Speaker 1: efficient manner, a stargate, if you will. And for some
Speaker 1: people have looked into the Gulf of Aden. What's actually happening,
Speaker 1: in their interpretation is that the US has found or
Speaker 1: created or resurrected some sort of thing like this, some
Speaker 1: sort of passage to other dimensions or to distant places
Speaker 1: in time and space several like this is very closely
Speaker 1: related to the idea that the US invaded Iraq to
Speaker 1: find a stargate. Did you ever hear that one?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I loved that. I loved that theory. That was
Speaker 3: so much fun. Again for me, these are so exciting
Speaker 3: and I don't know, they reawakened the kid in me
Speaker 3: that watched the X Files, you know, before going to
Speaker 3: bed and then had glorious dreams and nightmares about the
Speaker 3: monsters that you could find within or the aliens and
Speaker 3: what they would actually be like. But unfortunately, in my mind,
Speaker 3: to my mind, that's what this is. Because we're still
Speaker 3: talking about seismic activity that occurred in a place that
Speaker 3: is a seven hour airplane ride from this other place
Speaker 3: that allegedly maybe had something weird going on with the
Speaker 3: vortex that some propaganda's ward about.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, totally true. Also, I think I'm pretty biased here.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I've never been to the Gulf
Speaker 1: of Aden. Okay, same, yeah, all right, that's what they
Speaker 1: get up to around there.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 1: It might be stargates all day. Man. It might be
Speaker 1: like a mall that is also a stargate so that
Speaker 1: you can get pretzels.
Speaker 2: I would picture the stargate would be sort of in
Speaker 2: the center where Santa Claus usually sits. You have to
Speaker 2: wait in line to the stargate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, either that or like an anchor store, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's because I think you're right, man, it's
Speaker 1: basically wherever they put the Santa that's where they would.
Speaker 2: Put the start.
Speaker 3: And to be further fair, I think it's safe to
Speaker 3: say that all of us are just holding our breaths
Speaker 3: until the ancient ancient ones come back, right.
Speaker 2: I personally will welcome them with open arms. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: pledge my allegiance to them instantly.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you'll only exist for a few seconds,
Speaker 3: but those seconds will just be not.
Speaker 2: If I pledge my allegiance quickly enough, you think, so, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You got to know the customs man, like what is
Speaker 1: considered pledging allegiance? You know, what if they communicate by
Speaker 1: smell and the first person to just rip an obnoxious
Speaker 1: fart because like they'reputized. Yeah, they're human, like Les Petelint,
Speaker 1: the professional French Flageli.
Speaker 2: These are all very important things to consider.
Speaker 1: These are all very We want you all to go
Speaker 1: into this prepared. Uh. It's true though this this stargate
Speaker 1: theory sounds wild. The Gulf of Aiden isn't really that close.
Speaker 1: But there is that report from Wiki leaks, and even
Speaker 1: though the Strafford people themselves seem pretty I don't know,
Speaker 1: dismissive of it. Maybe they they're they're probably dismissive because
Speaker 1: they couldn't find any other source to confirm it, right,
Speaker 1: or they couldn't find any source that existed independently. It
Speaker 1: all ultimately goes back to this Russian report, and still
Speaker 1: it doesn't explain this earthquake, this series of earthquakes, this thing,
Speaker 1: this low key rumble that is not supposed to happen
Speaker 1: this way.
Speaker 3: With the weird metronomic hmm clicks.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the bloop remember that. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: unexplained noise that I think ultimately people no one conclusively
Speaker 1: solved it, but people did seem to think overwhelmingly there
Speaker 1: was the sound of ice moving in a glacier.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but I don't believe that for a second.
Speaker 1: You think it was you think it was an eldritch
Speaker 1: it was something that goes. So at this point in time,
Speaker 1: it looks like the most plausible explanation for the strange
Speaker 1: global shiver, let's call it, is the underwater drainage of
Speaker 1: a massive amount of magma. And reading the descriptions of this,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but it made me
Speaker 1: think of when people talk about popping or draining a
Speaker 1: ZiT or something. You know what I mean? Is this
Speaker 1: an earth ZiT like under the skin? What's it called
Speaker 1: if it's under the skin and it hasn't popped yet?
Speaker 2: Dermal something? Okay, I don't know, there's a name for Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it.
Speaker 1: No, No, not a doctor, But that's so. So it
Speaker 1: looks like this may have a mundane explanation, but that's
Speaker 1: not a guaranteed cause. And at this point, as we
Speaker 1: record this episode, we still don't understand how this happened
Speaker 1: the way it did. And that's very, very important because
Speaker 1: you know what happens when there's a lack of transparency
Speaker 1: and a lack of clarity.
Speaker 3: Colin Ritman comes along and he's like, he needs more time,
Speaker 3: he needs more time to finish that video game. Holy
Speaker 3: crappy guys.
Speaker 2: You know, a z it under the skin is called
Speaker 2: what's called an underground temple.
Speaker 1: An underground Well, we've solved that mystery conclusively, and think,
Speaker 1: you know, in the case of the global seismic event,
Speaker 1: Until it can be proven that there is a definitive
Speaker 1: answer to this mystery, questions are going to remain, and
Speaker 1: fringe researchers will continue asking whether this is just an
Speaker 1: oddly well organized earthquake that has a great sense of rhythm,
Speaker 1: or if it's evidence of something else, something they don't
Speaker 1: want you to know. But then I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: what do you think? I want it to be? A
Speaker 1: sorry gape, But I'm pretty sure it's magma. I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure it's an undergrounds it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's for me. Is that one piece of
Speaker 3: the puzzle that the rhythmic nature of the one the
Speaker 3: the one set of frequencies are just making that weird
Speaker 3: little monochromatic? I think mono mono chromatic? Wait, monoch chronomic? Well,
Speaker 3: what does that? How does that work?
Speaker 2: Is it in terms of sound?
Speaker 3: Ye?
Speaker 2: Monophonic? No, I mean, monophon just means one voice at
Speaker 2: a time. It doesn't, there's not that only happens as
Speaker 2: a single instance, not stacked like chords or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Monophone just means a single tone that only mon simp
Speaker 2: on its own. It's never like joined by other sounds.
Speaker 1: But it's weird, right, This thing is weird. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not doesn't sound the way an earthquake is supposed to sound,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't move like one either.
Speaker 3: It's not cool, not cool at all.
Speaker 2: I think it's super cool, man.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably just packs. You know, pa X
Speaker 3: hanging out down there, k Pax now just packs. It's
Speaker 3: a demon, pac Man, it's a demon that you're.
Speaker 2: Supposed to worship. Packman's a demon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, programming control man.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that? You have you guys seen that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Man, conspiracy realist. Let us know what you thought of that.
Speaker 3: He escapes one he escapes out in the maze one way,
Speaker 3: only to come in on the other side.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good voice of that kid.
Speaker 2: And I forget his name, but he's excellent movie.
Speaker 1: He's also in Yes, uh, you can let us know
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