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Speaker 1: Fellow conspiracy realist. I feel the earth move under my feet.

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Speaker 2: It's a banger, dude. You can't remember when like they

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Speaker 2: made movies where like natural disasters were the big bad guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Twister.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, there is I was just exactly what I

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Speaker 1: This one's called twisters plural. Yeah, there's Inferno. Now there's

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Speaker 1: two where the bad guys a fire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the towering one, right, isn't that right? Towering fron

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe there was a there's probably another one

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Speaker 1: There's I believe there's one.

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Speaker 2: Where like the moon is the bad guy because it's

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking the one with Purece Brosnan, that Inferno.

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Speaker 2: I'm certain it's just the Towering. Inferno is a seventies movie,

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Speaker 2: so I'm certain that just they just dropped the Towering

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Speaker 2: because he was James Bond. That'll probably sell tickets. But

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Speaker 2: while that may be sort of a dated format, you know,

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Speaker 2: for for tent pole Hollywood action movies, seismic activity is

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Speaker 2: no oak, y'all.

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Speaker 1: No, if you've ever been in an earthquake. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've never been in a big one, just ten blowers.

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Speaker 2: Now, neither of I've really I've not been in. I've

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Speaker 3: Well, guys, today's episode may not even be about a tremor.

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Speaker 3: This is one of the weirdest events that I can recall.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it. This is an earthquake type event

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Speaker 3: what the heck was down there?

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Speaker 1: November eleventh, twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Cuthulu wakes, Oh man, you have me at sine wave?

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Speaker 4: Matt, Oh, I know I would.

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump in.

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Speaker 5: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 5: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 5: learn this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my

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Speaker 3: name is.

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Speaker 1: Dol They call me Ben. We are joined with our

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Speaker 1: guest super producer, Casey the quake Pegram, So everybody say

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Speaker 1: hello to him. And most importantly, you are you, you

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Speaker 1: are here that makes this stuff. They don't want you

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Speaker 1: to know. A groundbreaking episode in a number of ways. Oh,

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Speaker 1: earth shattering perhaps. Yeah, it's our first it's our first

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Speaker 1: time getting back together after the in the new year,

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Speaker 1: after the relatively arbitrary end of December twenty eighteen. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just it's just me going out of my way to

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Speaker 1: be disrespectful to the Gregorian calendar system, Yeah, which is

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Speaker 1: a man made thing.

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Speaker 3: It is that we've discussed on the show.

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Speaker 2: They say it's the anniversary of our obsession with arbitrary time.

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Speaker 1: I think Hallmark's going to put some cards out that

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Speaker 1: just say that, right.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you can almost breathe now by the way.

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Speaker 3: I went out outside like last night, the night before,

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Speaker 1: Just switched really like that meme that was making the

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Speaker 1: Hey, there we go, good save. And it's weird when

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Speaker 1: because spoiler alert, we still don't know near as much

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that writes articles about these kinds of things.

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Speaker 3: That's right, That's right, Noel is going off solely physical

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Speaker 3: So technically, an earthquake is just that it's a vibration

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Speaker 2: I confirmed it. Tote Mifflin did make physical science books

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Speaker 2: It's a racket. It's beautiful, it's not, it's it's awful.

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Speaker 3: Well, there's Macmillan's huge, that's true.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, that's a whole episode probably that we should do.

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Speaker 3: Scientists didn't come up with any real solid theory that

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Speaker 1: So here's the gist. Earth has a crust, which you

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Speaker 3: have more of a side to side motion. And both

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Speaker 3: these two, the primary and the S waves, have relatively

436
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Speaker 3: high frequencies, and Hicks describes them as a sort of

437
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Speaker 3: ping rather than a rumbling.

438
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Speaker 2: And after that then you have these slow, kind of

439
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Speaker 2: longer period surface waves that show up. And these are

440
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Speaker 2: the ones that most closely resemble the signals from Mayot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird because there's no big earthquake, right,

442
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to come third in line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

444
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Speaker 2: Here they are again just sort of happening. It's a

445
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Speaker 2: little irritating to scientists, right, well.

446
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you get just get these surface waves all

447
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, and what the hell is happening here? Guys?

448
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: Anyone go on Twitter, Hey what's this? And then just

449
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: a Twitter storm occurred?

450
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Speaker 1: Right exactly what the hell is going on? Is there

451
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Speaker 1: no order to this chaotic and uncarrying, inexplicable universe? Right,

452
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: seismologists weren't grappling with philosophical quandtries of that nature. They

453
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: were they were more focused on figuring out why this

454
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Speaker 1: thing is happening. Right, And now we're at the point

455
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Speaker 1: where there are several theories, some that are more plausible

456
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Speaker 1: than others. We can we can walk through some of these.

457
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Speaker 1: They get increasingly exciting. One what about a meteor What

458
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Speaker 1: if a meteorite somehow caused earthquakes? Initially, scientists searched the

459
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Speaker 1: region around this island to see whether there was any

460
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Speaker 1: evidence that a non terrestrial object could be the culprit

461
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Speaker 1: behind the quake. So far, no one has found any

462
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Speaker 1: compelling proof. So this theory, while it has some sand

463
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Speaker 1: to it, can be safe dismissed.

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Speaker 3: And I guess in a way this could make sense,

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Speaker 3: I guess to someone theorizing about it because you don't

466
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Speaker 3: have those those P and S waves that are associated

467
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Speaker 3: with that quick jolt, right, That's why this one was

468
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Speaker 3: thought to be possible.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, good point.

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Speaker 3: Just because I guess if you had the surface waves

471
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Speaker 3: of or the surface and literally the surface of the

472
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Speaker 3: water being impacted without that deep cracking, I guess that

473
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Speaker 3: makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense to me, But again not that yes,

475
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Speaker 1: so not that they So what if it were not

476
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Speaker 1: an act of nature in its random you know, infinite

477
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Speaker 1: monkeys typing nine infinite typewriters sort of scenario, What if

478
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Speaker 1: somehow human beings are responsible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing. Scientists tend to want to

480
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Speaker 2: take care to not accidentally veer into bananas conspiracy theory territory.

481
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Speaker 2: But the way these waves behaved, the regularity of them

482
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Speaker 2: was quite extraordinary, quite remarkable. So you see that long

483
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Speaker 2: low frequency grumble is kind of punctuated by a series

484
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Speaker 2: of high frequency blips signals. It turns out that have

485
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Speaker 2: very regular intervals like this often tend to be artificially generated.

486
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Speaker 2: That's just how it is.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, as you're reading about this event, because you

488
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Speaker 3: can find it in places from Gizmoto to Big Think,

489
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: they are they discuss how these tiny little pings occurred,

490
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 3: as Nola was saying, like clockwork. That's just if you're

491
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Speaker 3: looking at the wave forms, it would literally be as

492
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Speaker 3: though someone is playing an instrument or hitting something or

493
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Speaker 3: a mechanical device is triggering at an exact time. It's

494
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: so weird.

495
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Speaker 1: And it's spooky. This is kind of a matter of interpretation,

496
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Speaker 1: but it is it feels way more plausible or way

497
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Speaker 1: more probable, rather that this is somehow man made. When

498
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Speaker 1: you hear it, yes, you know what I mean. It

499
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Speaker 1: sounds similar to machinery in terms of the intervals. But

500
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: our species has been fooled before, right, we First we

501
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Speaker 1: have to admit we have found no evidence of heavy

502
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Speaker 1: industry in the area, at least nothing that people know

503
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Speaker 1: of so far. Right, and to be fair, we have

504
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Speaker 1: encountered other natural processes and phenomena and objects that have

505
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Speaker 1: the appearance of regularity. When pulsars came out in the

506
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Speaker 1: we're discovered, I guess it's a better way to say it.

507
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Speaker 1: When pulsars were discovered in the nineteen sixties, people were

508
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Speaker 1: convinced they were generated by intelligent life.

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Speaker 3: Oh, hands down.

510
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Speaker 1: And even looking at a pulsar now it's like, okay.

511
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: Really, you're gonna make that light exactly that many times

512
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 3: at that rate?

513
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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Because pulsars, you know, rapidly rotate and they

514
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: have this kind of lighthouse appearance, and the flashes seem

515
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: to be on a regular calculated frequency, right or interval.

516
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: So the original source of pulsars. When it's discovered they

517
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Speaker 1: were called lgms, which stood for little Green men. So

518
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: we've been fulled before. This still could be some This

519
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: still could be a natural phenomenon rather than you know,

520
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: a large scale fracking or something. So there's no evidence

521
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: of something man made that's large enough to produce this kind.

522
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Speaker 3: Of global event that we know about.

523
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Speaker 1: That we know about, that's correct, So what if we

524
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: look more closely under the water.

525
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Speaker 3: And for that we go to the French Geological Survey

526
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: or the BRGM, and it's closely monitoring the recent shaking

527
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Speaker 3: and it's suggests that there's a new center of volcanic

528
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Speaker 3: activity that may be developing off the coast of Mayote.

529
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Speaker 3: Because Mayote was formed from volcanism or volcanoes volcanic activity,

530
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Speaker 3: but the volcanoes in this area have just they haven't

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Speaker 3: erupted in over four thousand years. So basically the thinking was, well,

532
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Speaker 3: perhaps that's not the first go to just because it's

533
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Speaker 3: been dormant for so long. But the BRGM, again, the

534
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Speaker 3: French Geological Survey's analysis, it suggests that this new activity

535
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Speaker 3: may point to magmatic movement offshore. And we're talking we're

536
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Speaker 3: not talking like, take a few steps. We're talking miles

537
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Speaker 3: from the coast under thousands of feet of water.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, Matt, Matt, So yeah, I have to interject

539
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Speaker 1: because this is one of my I propose this be

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Speaker 1: the word of the day. Okay, episode that was Some

541
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Speaker 1: people may have thought that you were mispronouncing magnetic, but

542
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Speaker 1: you're not. Oh you're saying magmatic.

543
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: Yes, magmatic.

544
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Speaker 1: What a great word.

545
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, buddy, magmatic.

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Speaker 1: I like volcanism too, volcanism magmatic. Yeah. I think the

547
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: reason a lot of people get into the science of

548
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: this stuff is because the names are so cool.

549
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Speaker 2: It's fun to say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, So if this is the case, then well here's

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Speaker 2: my question. First of all, if they haven't rupted in

553
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Speaker 2: four thousand years, doesn't that mean they're due for an eruption? Guys?

554
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really know how it works. And

555
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: you think they could predict it, they could see if

556
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Speaker 2: there was something. Where's all the lava?

557
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: Right?

558
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly where's the lava? And if you think about

559
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: some of the things we've discussed in a slightly different capacity,

560
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: but with oh what the hell am I thinking here?

561
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Speaker 3: The super volcano in the middle of the United Yes,

562
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Speaker 3: and you think about that when you're talking about the

563
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Speaker 3: interval of time, noal where it's been so long, we're

564
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Speaker 3: just waiting for it to occur.

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Speaker 1: But also it's the margin of error here is in

566
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Speaker 1: terms of geologic geological time, right, we are but a blip,

567
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: We are a we are an awkward thought in the

568
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Speaker 1: very fleeting ephemera of Earth's mind. So this is when

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Speaker 1: we see another proposal. And so folks at the E. N.

570
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: S University in Paris say, hey, maybe it's not a meteor.

571
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: Maybe there's magma draining from a site somewhere and it's

572
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Speaker 1: caused in its magma draining from a subterranean reservoir. And

573
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 1: when the magma is moving, the reservoir is collapsing, and

574
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Speaker 1: this is causing quakes. And they looked at the GPS

575
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: data and from that they said, okay, we think this

576
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: kind of thing might happen if zero point three cubic

577
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: miles of magma all moved at once, or they said,

578
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: possibly sea monsters, the eldritchge dead and dreaming beast from

579
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Speaker 1: the darkness between the stars, slumbering until the constellations reach

580
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Speaker 1: a predetermined position. Not can I mean scientists did propose

581
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Speaker 1: that multiple people.

582
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Speaker 3: Actually they did some kind of eldritch beast.

583
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they were joking. But you know, what

584
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Speaker 1: would the show be if we don't include that part?

585
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.

586
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: And speaking of the weird out there stuff, we did

587
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Speaker 1: save the best theory. Sorry, I can't speak for everyone

588
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: in my opinion the best theory.

589
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, I'm right there with you, Ben Concur, Oh.

590
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Speaker 1: Great, we saved the best one. Then we're unanimous on this.

591
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Speaker 1: Who saved the best one? For last? Learn all about

592
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Speaker 1: the vortex after a word from our sponsors.

593
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Speaker 3: Wait the Vortex, huge dramatic music, the war.

594
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Speaker 1: War, war tech tech tech text.

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Speaker 4: Back in twenty thirteen, Wiki leaks released an article alleging

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Speaker 4: that a mysterious vortex opened over the Gulf of Aden,

597
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 4: just off the Horn of Africa, which created catastrophic weather

598
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Speaker 4: in the early two thousands.

599
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Speaker 3: So like a portal, Just like a portal, but a vortex.

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Speaker 1: Fortse Yeah, but this is what we're talking wikiliks, right, Yeah,

601
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: WikiLeaks did release this. It was according to a report

602
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: allegedly prepared by an Admiral Maximov of Russia's Northern Fleet

603
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: for Vladimir Putin. What they said was in late two thousand,

604
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Speaker 1: the specific year two thousand, there was a magnetic vortex

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Speaker 1: that was discovered in this area that you just described,

606
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Speaker 1: matt in the Gulf of Aden. And according to the story, Russia,

607
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: the People's Republic of China, and the USA joined together,

608
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Speaker 1: cast aside their paltry human differences to study what this

609
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: vortex was, and they discovered that it defied logic and

610
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Speaker 1: the laws of physics. This sent the world the conspiracy sphere,

611
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Speaker 1: kind of like the lithosphere, I guess, on fire. And

612
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: with the recent reports of audun events near mayott More,

613
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: theorists are resurrecting this story, and who can blame them?

614
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 3: It's a great story, dude, doe. The cover story from

615
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: the governments was that all of these navies were joining

616
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Speaker 3: forces to combat Somali pirates.

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Speaker 1: That's true, Yeah, that's true, which is strange when you

618
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: think about how much firepower that.

619
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Speaker 3: Would be, you know what I mean, Yeah, to fight

620
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: a vortex or whatever was going to emerge from the vortex.

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Speaker 1: And that's yeah, you've stump you've stumbled on it. So

622
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Speaker 1: people have also connected this with something called the Norway

623
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Speaker 1: spiral or Norway vortex, and people started I guess pretty

624
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: quickly people began bringing aliens into the picture, right, Yeah,

625
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: because why else would these geopolitical adversaries or at best

626
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: frenemies cooperate.

627
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an alleged connection to Jupiter, which is which

628
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: is fun about one of the large storms that's on

629
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Speaker 3: Jupiter and the vortex showing up when the storm on

630
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Speaker 3: Jupiter was re emerging. I could not correlate those two

631
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: things together just in my own independent research, but it's

632
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: been discussed about this.

633
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are other earthquake related things too. Oh yeah,

634
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: so we know some of these things are true. Weather

635
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: manipulation is a real thing that occurs. China regularly practices this.

636
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: Other countries have certainly dabbled with it. The US engaged

637
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: in weather manipulation during the Vietnam War. For some people

638
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: who believe this vortex exists, the world powers are cooperating

639
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: to combat weather related shenanigans. But the people who spice

640
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: this up with claims of extraterrestrial or even interdimensional contact

641
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: alleged that world governments in secret have been able to

642
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: contact or confront something not of this world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm gonna go out on a lemon and say

644
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: we probably didn't confront something from out of this world,

645
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: because we would be squashed like a bug.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, front are get fronted, you know.

647
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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have it? We're just mostly throwing iron

648
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: and different metals that are just propelled at high speed

649
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: at these things.

650
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Speaker 1: It's true, we don't have any really cool stuff.

651
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Speaker 3: Yet, explosives, I guess, sir.

652
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you detonated a nuclear weapon, you

653
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: would it's kind of cutting off your nose despite your face,

654
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

655
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: You'd find a seismic activity, some seismic activity though.

656
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: That is true. That is true, and you will find

657
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: reports that say a forty one earthquake or thirty five

658
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: earthquakes occurred in a twenty four hour period in the

659
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: Gulf of Aiden. And also a ton of military vessels

660
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: and commercial vessels are in the Gulf of Aiden. It's

661
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: a huge shipping lane for the world, you know what

662
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: I mean.

663
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 3: But yes, but there's also one major problem, right, what's

664
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: that the location? Location?

665
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: That is okay, yes, yes, that is true. So the

666
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: Gulf of Aiden is a seven hour plane flight away

667
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: from Mayo. So while it could be considered sort of

668
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: in the region, sure, it's not nearby. You don't pop

669
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: over to the Gulf of Aiden to you know, pick

670
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: up milk.

671
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: I don't Knoweah, Well, you know, unless you're in some

672
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 3: kind of vessel that is interdimensional in nature, or can

673
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 3: travel faster than light, or even just travel extremely extremely

674
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: fast and travel underwater, maybe you could get there really quickly.

675
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is really happening at the Gulf of Aiden?

676
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: And where did these reports come from? So? Wiki leaks

677
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: has been associated with legitimate stuff. The way they release

678
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: it may have some sort of angle, right, but what

679
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: they just I guess the better way to say it

680
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: is WikiLeaks definitely has its own agenda. They do display

681
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: editorial bias in the way that they release certain things

682
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 1: and hold other ones in confidence. But usually when they

683
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: release stuff, it's true or it's written in what it's

684
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: written by someone who believes it to be true.

685
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, and it was a this is part of

686
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: a strap for email at least a leak that came

687
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: from the Global Intelligence files. Okay, this has occurred in

688
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. February twenty seventh, that's when this specific email

689
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 3: was released with the subject huh mysterious vortex warned it's

690
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 3: creating warned is creating global weather catastrophe.

691
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. So for context, Stratfor is a intelligence platform, publisher

692
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 1: kind of subscription service. You can also get some free

693
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: emails from them. That was founded in Austin, Texas, and

694
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: they report on geo political stuff, a lot of state

695
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 1: craft and a lot of things that would be helpful

696
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: to multinational corporations.

697
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and specifically weapons companies are built into this whole

698
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 3: thing and intelligence and all that.

699
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: So where can where can you get the best price

700
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: selling guns things like that, honestly? Or where where our

701
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: market's unstable? And so of course they would be concerned

702
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: with these weird reports. I know what a lot of

703
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: us are thinking. Did this email come out on April first? No?

704
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: No, did not.

705
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 1: First?

706
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 3: Well, it was from a website called pack alert press

707
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: dot com, and I mean it was a it was

708
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: a news story at the time. But here's the thing.

709
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: The source that was being like mentioned in this email

710
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: that was sent or found within this leak. That's really

711
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: what we're talking about here. The person that wrote the

712
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: article or at least provided the information for the article.

713
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's another conspiracy here. This is this is an

714
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: author or propagandist or group of authors or group of

715
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: propagandists going by the handle sort of Fall, which sounds

716
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: like a cool name from Star Wars.

717
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: It really does. But they're known for putting out this

718
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 3: kind of bogus. Again, it's propaganda or just disinformation, or

719
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: just headlining or grabbing headlines that are completely false or

720
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 3: at least based on this tiny little morsel of truth,

721
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 3: and then just nothing.

722
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm with you my question, Yeah, to what

723
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: end does this story of some strange vortex over the

724
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Gulf of Aiden help or hinder Russian operations if it

725
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: really is, if it really is some sort of propaganda.

726
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: I mean, have you read the It's essentially lore at

727
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: this point.

728
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So.

729
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: I guess the best way to say it is, do

730
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: we all remember the film Stargate?

731
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

732
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah? All right, so Stargate the villain is

733
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: also the love interest in the Crying Game, correct, right.

734
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: So.

735
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: Stargate. The gist of Stargate is that ancient civilization was

736
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: founded by extraterrestrials who possess a gate that lets one

737
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: travel through time and space in an unorthodox, much more

738
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: efficient manner, a stargate, if you will. And for some

739
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: people have looked into the Gulf of Aden. What's actually happening,

740
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: in their interpretation is that the US has found or

741
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: created or resurrected some sort of thing like this, some

742
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: sort of passage to other dimensions or to distant places

743
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: in time and space several like this is very closely

744
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: related to the idea that the US invaded Iraq to

745
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: find a stargate. Did you ever hear that one?

746
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 3: Yeah? I loved that. I loved that theory. That was

747
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 3: so much fun. Again for me, these are so exciting

748
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 3: and I don't know, they reawakened the kid in me

749
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: that watched the X Files, you know, before going to

750
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: bed and then had glorious dreams and nightmares about the

751
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 3: monsters that you could find within or the aliens and

752
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: what they would actually be like. But unfortunately, in my mind,

753
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: to my mind, that's what this is. Because we're still

754
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: talking about seismic activity that occurred in a place that

755
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: is a seven hour airplane ride from this other place

756
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: that allegedly maybe had something weird going on with the

757
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: vortex that some propaganda's ward about.

758
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, totally true. Also, I think I'm pretty biased here.

759
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I've never been to the Gulf

760
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: of Aden. Okay, same, yeah, all right, that's what they

761
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: get up to around there.

762
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: That's fair.

763
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: It might be stargates all day. Man. It might be

764
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: like a mall that is also a stargate so that

765
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: you can get pretzels.

766
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: I would picture the stargate would be sort of in

767
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: the center where Santa Claus usually sits. You have to

768
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: wait in line to the stargate.

769
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, either that or like an anchor store, you know.

770
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's because I think you're right, man, it's

771
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: basically wherever they put the Santa that's where they would.

772
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: Put the start.

773
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 3: And to be further fair, I think it's safe to

774
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 3: say that all of us are just holding our breaths

775
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: until the ancient ancient ones come back, right.

776
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: I personally will welcome them with open arms. Yeah, and

777
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: pledge my allegiance to them instantly.

778
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean you'll only exist for a few seconds,

779
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: but those seconds will just be not.

780
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 2: If I pledge my allegiance quickly enough, you think, so, Yeah.

781
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: You got to know the customs man, like what is

782
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: considered pledging allegiance? You know, what if they communicate by

783
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: smell and the first person to just rip an obnoxious

784
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: fart because like they'reputized. Yeah, they're human, like Les Petelint,

785
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: the professional French Flageli.

786
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: These are all very important things to consider.

787
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: These are all very We want you all to go

788
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: into this prepared. Uh. It's true though this this stargate

789
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: theory sounds wild. The Gulf of Aiden isn't really that close.

790
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 1: But there is that report from Wiki leaks, and even

791
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: though the Strafford people themselves seem pretty I don't know,

792
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: dismissive of it. Maybe they they're they're probably dismissive because

793
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: they couldn't find any other source to confirm it, right,

794
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: or they couldn't find any source that existed independently. It

795
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: all ultimately goes back to this Russian report, and still

796
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't explain this earthquake, this series of earthquakes, this thing,

797
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: this low key rumble that is not supposed to happen

798
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: this way.

799
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 3: With the weird metronomic hmm clicks.

800
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the bloop remember that. Yeah, the

801
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: unexplained noise that I think ultimately people no one conclusively

802
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: solved it, but people did seem to think overwhelmingly there

803
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: was the sound of ice moving in a glacier.

804
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, but I don't believe that for a second.

805
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: You think it was you think it was an eldritch

806
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: it was something that goes. So at this point in time,

807
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 1: it looks like the most plausible explanation for the strange

808
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: global shiver, let's call it, is the underwater drainage of

809
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 1: a massive amount of magma. And reading the descriptions of this,

810
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but it made me

811
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: think of when people talk about popping or draining a

812
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: ZiT or something. You know what I mean? Is this

813
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: an earth ZiT like under the skin? What's it called

814
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: if it's under the skin and it hasn't popped yet?

815
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: Dermal something? Okay, I don't know, there's a name for Yeah,

816
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: that's it.

817
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: No, No, not a doctor, But that's so. So it

818
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: looks like this may have a mundane explanation, but that's

819
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: not a guaranteed cause. And at this point, as we

820
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: record this episode, we still don't understand how this happened

821
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 1: the way it did. And that's very, very important because

822
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: you know what happens when there's a lack of transparency

823
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: and a lack of clarity.

824
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 3: Colin Ritman comes along and he's like, he needs more time,

825
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: he needs more time to finish that video game. Holy

826
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 3: crappy guys.

827
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: You know, a z it under the skin is called

828
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: what's called an underground temple.

829
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: An underground Well, we've solved that mystery conclusively, and think,

830
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, in the case of the global seismic event,

831
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: Until it can be proven that there is a definitive

832
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: answer to this mystery, questions are going to remain, and

833
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: fringe researchers will continue asking whether this is just an

834
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: oddly well organized earthquake that has a great sense of rhythm,

835
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: or if it's evidence of something else, something they don't

836
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: want you to know. But then I don't know, man,

837
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: what do you think? I want it to be? A

838
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: sorry gape, But I'm pretty sure it's magma. I'm pretty

839
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: sure it's an undergrounds it.

840
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's for me. Is that one piece of

841
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: the puzzle that the rhythmic nature of the one the

842
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 3: the one set of frequencies are just making that weird

843
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: little monochromatic? I think mono mono chromatic? Wait, monoch chronomic? Well,

844
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 3: what does that? How does that work?

845
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Is it in terms of sound?

846
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 3: Ye?

847
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: Monophonic? No, I mean, monophon just means one voice at

848
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: a time. It doesn't, there's not that only happens as

849
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: a single instance, not stacked like chords or whatever.

850
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: You know.

851
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: Monophone just means a single tone that only mon simp

852
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: on its own. It's never like joined by other sounds.

853
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: But it's weird, right, This thing is weird. Yeah, it's

854
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: not doesn't sound the way an earthquake is supposed to sound,

855
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: and it doesn't move like one either.

856
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: It's not cool, not cool at all.

857
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 2: I think it's super cool, man.

858
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 3: I think it's probably just packs. You know, pa X

859
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: hanging out down there, k Pax now just packs. It's

860
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: a demon, pac Man, it's a demon that you're.

861
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: Supposed to worship. Packman's a demon.

862
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, programming control man.

863
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 2: Have you seen that? You have you guys seen that?

864
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

865
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: Man, conspiracy realist. Let us know what you thought of that.

866
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 3: He escapes one he escapes out in the maze one way,

867
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 3: only to come in on the other side.

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