Speaker 1: Hold up, hold up, hold up, give me you got
Speaker 1: a call? Hello? Hello, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 1: Uh, we'll call, We'll call.
Speaker 2: We'll go with Isaac, Isaac. How can I get you today?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Not much, Grek. You know, I'm just chilling right here.
Speaker 1: I'm in California, so you know where I'm at. Time wise,
Speaker 1: he's drinking a beer after work.
Speaker 2: I'm in California, so you know where I'm at. Well,
Speaker 2: it says here that you wanted to talk about uh
Speaker 2: being legally blind and helping out other legally blind people. Now,
Speaker 2: how blind are you? Are? You? Like, hello, blind? They're
Speaker 2: not that blind.
Speaker 1: So I am totally blind from one eye and then
Speaker 1: from my other eye. From my left eye, I only
Speaker 1: have about tunnel vision, and everybody kind of looks. Have
Speaker 1: you ever played that game Minecraft? Uh? Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: how I kind of looks by blocking? Yeah, like low
Speaker 1: graphers and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, that's that's how
Speaker 1: it would have that my visions.
Speaker 2: So in one eye you see nothing, and then the
Speaker 2: other eye you see Minecraft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but on the right eye that I don't see
Speaker 1: nothing out of It's like it's not darkness, it's just light.
Speaker 1: I could still see light, so I know when it's dark.
Speaker 1: I know when it's night. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So you can so you see light out of your
Speaker 2: like when you're in when you're in a dark room,
Speaker 2: you don't see light, right, you just see. I mean
Speaker 2: like if I close my eyes and I stare at
Speaker 2: the sun, I'll see orange. Is it like that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Speak of it like seem into like a because I
Speaker 1: had vision in the past. I lost my vision, so
Speaker 1: I just gut it as like a you know how
Speaker 1: when you look into like a car with headlights, it's
Speaker 1: like a hypem mhm. It's just bright, right, That's how
Speaker 1: it works.
Speaker 2: How'd you lose your vision?
Speaker 1: Man, that's a long story. I had what's known as
Speaker 1: toxic epidermal narcolosis.
Speaker 2: Toxic epidermal epidermal something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could call it. You can look you can
Speaker 1: google it by looking at Stephen Johnson's syndrome.
Speaker 2: Okay, I had that.
Speaker 1: But it's like a spectrum type of stuff.
Speaker 2: How old were you when you lost your vision? There'steen fifteen. Ah,
Speaker 2: that sucks. It's like long enough to really get acquainted
Speaker 2: with seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been about twelve years, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe one thing. If you lost your vision when
Speaker 2: you were like four, it's like I didn't really get
Speaker 2: to see anything, but now you kind of like know
Speaker 2: what's seeing is Like, what did that suck? Was that
Speaker 2: a bummer?
Speaker 1: Honest? You guys, do you know what I really missed?
Speaker 1: I lost my virginity when I was like fourteen, I
Speaker 1: missing tits.
Speaker 2: I knew when you said I knew when you said,
Speaker 2: do you know what I miss right now? I knew
Speaker 2: you were gonna say tits.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like if A feel them, I know where
Speaker 1: they're at, I know how it looks, but it's like
Speaker 1: I can't can't you can't see them? Painful? Dog?
Speaker 2: When was the last time you saw tits?
Speaker 1: Oh? You want me to get like technical up in here?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: So I got sick, so my condition. I got sick
Speaker 1: like like oh, March March, like mid March, and I
Speaker 1: had gotten laid about a week before that.
Speaker 3: That was the last time.
Speaker 2: Man, So you had sex h a week before you
Speaker 2: lost your vision?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well before I started losing my vision.
Speaker 2: Man, do you think it's like a god opens a window,
Speaker 2: closes the door kind of thing?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Describe that? What do you mean.
Speaker 2: Like like something good happened to you. You had sex
Speaker 2: for the first time, and so the playing field needed
Speaker 2: to be evened out, so something bad had to happen
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Well, that wasn't the first time I had sex.
Speaker 2: I thought you said you lost your virginity. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: That makes no no, no, I said I had the
Speaker 1: last time I had sex.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well you had sex. That's a good thing, and
Speaker 2: so it was balanced out that. Yeah. Whether or not
Speaker 2: it was the time you lost your virginity, it doesn't matter. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all right, this this is sorry. This was a stupid
Speaker 2: thread that I took us down, and I take full
Speaker 2: responsibility for that. Okay, so what but you still remember
Speaker 2: what tits look like? So can you still imagine tits?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I can.
Speaker 1: I mean I can still kind of technically see them
Speaker 1: because I still have like a I still have like
Speaker 1: a tunnel vision in my left eye. It's like looking
Speaker 1: in imagine holding up your fingers with the with the
Speaker 1: hole in your hand, and that's all you can see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see who you have to adjust That's how I
Speaker 1: have to look at it. I can still see them.
Speaker 2: So everything looks like minecraft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a tunnel tunnel vision, because I only have
Speaker 1: tunnel in my left.
Speaker 2: Eye, so pretty much forever, anytime you see tits it
Speaker 2: looks like Minecraft hen tie.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and it sucks that it's only gonna get
Speaker 1: worse with time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eventually you'll go from Minecraft tits to South Park tits? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So you know what do you miss? Do you miss
Speaker 2: Do you miss seeing butts?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm more of a tick guy than an ass
Speaker 1: I got. I hate to be on that side, but
Speaker 1: I'm more of a kick guy something.
Speaker 2: What about? What else do you miss seeing?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I really missed another thing? I
Speaker 1: really missed? You ever like played baseball and like you
Speaker 1: still like a baseball and you can track a baseball
Speaker 1: in the year or a football year. I missed that.
Speaker 1: I really miss that.
Speaker 2: Do you miss it more than you miss tits?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I miss tis more than I missed that. H I
Speaker 1: still wrestle and I can still box After I boxing
Speaker 1: and blind, that was not cool. I gota functioned my
Speaker 1: face a lot.
Speaker 2: Get Is it harder to have sex in general when
Speaker 2: you are blind? No?
Speaker 1: Not really, I mean it's mostly feel I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know where everything's up comically speaking,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been with my girlfriend for like two
Speaker 1: years now, So.
Speaker 2: Is it crazy? Is it crazy that you don't know,
Speaker 2: uh what she looks like?
Speaker 1: You see, I do, and I don't know what she
Speaker 1: looks like because, like I said, I have I have
Speaker 1: like a little bit of visions in my left eye.
Speaker 1: I have tonal vision, no picks, but like I can
Speaker 1: make out where she looked like a little bit.
Speaker 2: Is she pretty?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah she is. I like her. Oh that was
Speaker 1: not a good response.
Speaker 2: No, But you know what's funny is it It wasn't
Speaker 2: a good response, And you totally could have like, it's
Speaker 2: not like you. It's not like you like thought she
Speaker 2: wasn't pretty, and you would be lying if you said
Speaker 2: like she was. You don't even you don't even have like,
Speaker 2: uh information on which to lie about. There was only
Speaker 2: positives in and enthusiastically answering yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you worred about that. You heard about that. I
Speaker 1: mean I like my girlfriend emotionally. I mean she drives
Speaker 1: me places when I need to get to places. You know,
Speaker 1: she's cool. It's like we've been together two years, so
Speaker 1: it's like kind of like the honeymoon pha is kind
Speaker 1: of over mm hm, you know which is you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean. You know she
Speaker 1: stays in my apartment. Now, it's so cool.
Speaker 2: How did you guys meet?
Speaker 1: How did we meet at college?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, we met when I was doing my bachelor's program. Yeah.
Speaker 2: What was the first thing she said to you?
Speaker 1: Well, she was more interested in the fact because I
Speaker 1: have like a really like good memory because I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's because I'm blind or because i'm or
Speaker 1: because of my brain, but like I want, like if
Speaker 1: I like I only need to like I only need
Speaker 1: to like review a document one time, and then I
Speaker 1: can recite to you information on that document.
Speaker 2: How do you read?
Speaker 1: Well, I had listened to it. Gags.
Speaker 2: You listen to a document and then that whole document
Speaker 2: is Is you you remember everything that it said?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And how did you said that? She was interested in that?
Speaker 2: How did that manifest?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 4: Like when when I was when I was going and
Speaker 4: when I was doing college, I was also like I
Speaker 4: was kind of like tutoring because I graduated, Like because I.
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, it's like I could just recite information.
Speaker 1: It's like a lot of teachers will like kind of
Speaker 1: respect that, and then like a lot of students are
Speaker 1: kind of like kind of like gravitate towards that, and
Speaker 1: then I would be able to help them with online
Speaker 1: testing because I was just really you know, good with that,
Speaker 1: and people would just gravitate towards me. And then I
Speaker 1: would give a lot of people answers. I had a
Speaker 1: group of like seven people around me, like helping me,
Speaker 1: walking me around places, and then I would just help
Speaker 1: them with like their homework, give them ideas, give them
Speaker 1: like we'd all take tests together, and yeah, they would
Speaker 1: just pass.
Speaker 5: On my laworld.
Speaker 2: So people would just naturally gravitate towards you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: So how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Well? It was what it was, man. I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't really think much about it because you know, I
Speaker 1: would just do my thing and like people like whatever,
Speaker 1: you're making me think. I wouldn't abuse me.
Speaker 2: What you said people abuse you.
Speaker 1: You're making me think that, like you're make me think
Speaker 1: how went on?
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything. I'm not trying to make you
Speaker 2: think a damn thing.
Speaker 6: My friends, No, but like, yeah, that's how I met
Speaker 6: myself friend and we ended up because we ended up
Speaker 6: being in the same major, and then we ended up.
Speaker 1: Just taking like the same classes together, and she would
Speaker 1: help me kind of get from like the college to
Speaker 1: like my apartment where I was staying at university, and
Speaker 1: then you know, one thing let to another, and then
Speaker 1: you know, now now we're a couple.
Speaker 2: Now I got a question for you. Uh it says
Speaker 2: here in your text that you wanted to talk about
Speaker 2: your arrest record.
Speaker 1: That's another story, Dick.
Speaker 2: Do you do you still want to talk about it?
Speaker 1: Well, we kind of into all this is like I
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know because he's just asking your question.
Speaker 2: You said you want me to ask another question. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So you don't want to talk about your arrest record?
Speaker 1: No, not right now?
Speaker 2: Okay? With like not right now? Is in like you
Speaker 2: like you don't want to talk about it for the
Speaker 2: rest of the time that we're on the phone, or
Speaker 2: like you don't want to talk about it, like literally
Speaker 2: like right now?
Speaker 1: Oh well, if we're going to talk about let's talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Well wait, wait, where are you at? Do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about it? You know? I want to talk
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I guess I'll talk about it because
Speaker 1: it's nothing like incriminated. It's more embarrassing if anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it was just like.
Speaker 1: I went out one time and I went out for
Speaker 1: drink and like I got a little bit too drunk,
Speaker 1: and I didn't have my blind king with me, and
Speaker 1: I was walking out and I got in a fight
Speaker 1: with somebody that was also really intoxicated, and then we
Speaker 1: both ended up getting in trouble.
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's not that embarrassing. There's way more
Speaker 2: embarrassing things you could have done to get arrested. Then,
Speaker 2: you know, fight another guy. People think that's cool. I
Speaker 2: think get in fights and stuff, you know, I think
Speaker 2: that that's if like that. I think there's social I
Speaker 2: think there's in theory social clout to be gained from
Speaker 2: getting into fights. People watch. People pay him a lot
Speaker 2: of money to watch people fight each other, you know,
Speaker 2: So I don't know, people take a lot of people
Speaker 2: take a lot of pride in fighting each other. So
Speaker 2: I mean, you, I don't think it's that embarrassing.
Speaker 1: But dude, I got so much shit going into work
Speaker 1: because I was I was like with one of my
Speaker 1: coworkers and like Mike, one of my coworkers told them
Speaker 1: what happened, and obviously I didn't get in trouble, so
Speaker 1: like nobody was mad at me. But the very fact
Speaker 1: that I was like held like put into I guess
Speaker 1: not under arrest. So like what do they call it
Speaker 1: when you're when you're being held by the cops? Are
Speaker 1: be not arrested? Detained?
Speaker 2: The detained? Yeah that sounds right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because they wanted to get like the information, and I would.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to live that down. My co my
Speaker 1: co workers always come back to me and tell me, like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Were you detained? Is that where you
Speaker 1: relate to work?
Speaker 2: Do you still work at this job?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I still work there now.
Speaker 2: Is that you have a job helping blind people?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Uh, well you were blind of the time. And he
Speaker 2: got into this fight, right, yes, But like I said,
Speaker 2: I was drawing, how do you how do you? How
Speaker 2: do you? How do you uh do anything? Blind and drunk?
Speaker 2: Let alone get into a fight with a.
Speaker 1: Guy, Okay, because like, okay, the area that I was
Speaker 1: in okay, So like where I live, I lived here
Speaker 1: with my whole life. I've walked the street where I
Speaker 1: was out all the time. But I've known him like
Speaker 1: the back of my hand, and now that I'm blind,
Speaker 1: it's like I kind of pay attention to them even more.
Speaker 1: But like at the incident, I didn't have my white
Speaker 1: kne because when I go out with people, I don't
Speaker 1: like to have my white kne just to like just
Speaker 1: to like take attention away from me. Because imagine, if
Speaker 1: if you see a white cane, everybody's gonna be like, oh,
Speaker 1: look are blind a richer and I don't like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you had your white cane, you could
Speaker 2: have kicked his ass with it.
Speaker 1: Well, he wouldn't he probably he probably wouldn't have attacked me.
Speaker 2: Interesting, No, it's true, he probably wouldn't. He probably wouldn't
Speaker 2: have attacked because you would look like such an asshole,
Speaker 2: you know, fighting a blind guy.
Speaker 1: But isn't that what you would have jumped in?
Speaker 2: Right? But isn't that what you want? Right? Like, you
Speaker 2: don't want to be treated any differently because you're blind.
Speaker 2: You want a guy, you know, if you're going to
Speaker 2: get into a bar fight, you don't want that experience
Speaker 2: to be hindered for you by somebody feeling bad for
Speaker 2: you because you're blind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like honestly, when it happened, It's
Speaker 1: like I went back into like because I used to
Speaker 1: wrestle and like wrestling and like box and everything, and
Speaker 1: I just kind of went back into like those raw
Speaker 1: like I don't know what happened, but justly just came over.
Speaker 1: Apparently the guy hit me in the face, and then
Speaker 1: when he hit me, I grabbed him in a bear
Speaker 1: hug and I tackled him to the floor, and then
Speaker 1: I took his back and then I was just right
Speaker 1: there riding his back, just holding him.
Speaker 6: Bright.
Speaker 2: You did that while blind? That's insane and drunk? What
Speaker 2: why did this guy fight you? Was what happens.
Speaker 1: I bumped into him, apparently, and I stepped on him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard, is
Speaker 2: this guy. This guy gets mad at you for bumping
Speaker 2: into him, and he doesn't know that you're blind, so
Speaker 2: he fucking punches you in the face.
Speaker 1: Honestly, do you know one of the do you know
Speaker 1: one of the cops, said one of the cobs, one
Speaker 1: of the CAUs honestly said, it is like you really
Speaker 1: couldn't tell that he was blind. Look into his fucking
Speaker 1: eyes and you can see his fucking blindness.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. No, No, see that guy should be embarrassed.
Speaker 2: That guy, you shouldn't be embarrassed. You should feel sick.
Speaker 2: You should be stoked about this. This is uh, this
Speaker 2: is a very very cool story on your end and
Speaker 2: an incredibly embarrassing story on his end, because he got
Speaker 2: his ass kicked by a guy who can't even see,
Speaker 2: and you, without being able to see, just took this
Speaker 2: motherfucker down with your sixth sense of wrestling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, it's it just you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: because like I was obviously intoxicated. I like people like
Speaker 1: around me tell the like, oh yeah, it's like that
Speaker 1: guy punched you and then you just kind of bare
Speaker 1: hugged him and just took him to the floor. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, and then the cops showed up like a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes later, and then they just separated us
Speaker 1: and put his god, his both.
Speaker 2: Do you think if you had the cane you would
Speaker 2: have fought him with it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I probably would have been. Yeah, I probably would have
Speaker 1: been that ship like folded it up and probably like
Speaker 1: keep the ship out of him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, like fucking turn it into nunchucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like brass knuckles or something and use like the
Speaker 1: cane tip.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: I would hope that somebody would jump in.
Speaker 2: So you for your job, you do you do special education?
Speaker 2: You teach other blind people ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the irony of everything. Yet I see I
Speaker 1: teach people how to, like how to walk around and
Speaker 1: how to like live independently within their own homes.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Do you teach them how to kick people's asses?
Speaker 1: No? No, Uh, you got to sign up for my
Speaker 1: only fans for that.
Speaker 2: It's your only fans. Uh what, So you teach them
Speaker 2: how to live in that? Do you? I mean you
Speaker 2: live with your girlfriend. But before that, did you? Were
Speaker 2: you able to be pretty independent?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean I lived. I lived, you know,
Speaker 1: I obviously lived at home, and you know, just trying
Speaker 1: to you know, get myself on my feet and you know,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out oh, like the like the rules
Speaker 1: of like working as a blind person who's perceiving like
Speaker 1: like got government support. So it's like it's all that
Speaker 1: you just got to figure everything out. And then I
Speaker 1: got help with like housing from the government. They helped
Speaker 1: me get on my feet, and then you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, they helped me kind of fill out the
Speaker 1: people stuff and you know, pay like low prices for rent,
Speaker 1: and it's like there's a lot of resources out there
Speaker 1: and not really what I help people with.
Speaker 2: Now, that's pretty cool, man, that's pretty that's a that's
Speaker 2: pretty good. Do you like life? You sound like you're
Speaker 2: you're you're doing pretty damn good.
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say, I am. You know,
Speaker 1: I think there's places. I think there's better things I
Speaker 1: can do. I don't know, like what, you know, like
Speaker 1: maybe cut back on drinking, you know, that's it, you know,
Speaker 1: just personal things like that. But outside of that, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask the chat real quick if they have
Speaker 2: any questions for you before we go. Let's see here.
Speaker 2: Someone said, I want to hear that story from the
Speaker 2: other guy's point of view. Yeah, I would. I would
Speaker 2: love to hear that story from the other guy's point
Speaker 2: of view.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Someone said, oh, how do you get to work? Like
Speaker 2: do you drive.
Speaker 1: So multiple ways depending on the weather, so like where
Speaker 1: I live. I specifically chose it because it's around a
Speaker 1: uh it's around a bus hub, so like a major
Speaker 1: transport for a lot of buses. So it's about like
Speaker 1: a about a quarter mile walk straight shot, just a
Speaker 1: straight shop.
Speaker 2: Someone asked, oh, it's quarterbackle. Oh okay, so you can
Speaker 2: just walk there, it's easy, Yeah, to.
Speaker 1: The bus hub and then I could just get to
Speaker 1: whatever bus I want and then all those buses take
Speaker 1: me wherever I want in my city. Or if it's raining,
Speaker 1: I could take a lift.
Speaker 2: Someone here says, what's your favorite advantage of being blind?
Speaker 2: What what's like anything good that you can take advantage of.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll give you one experience, one experience, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: I set this up. Okay. So I was kicking it
Speaker 1: with one of my friends, and they brought over like
Speaker 1: their cousins right like it was like a family get together, right,
Speaker 1: and and like their cousins they knew I was blind,
Speaker 1: but they didn't know how blind I was. They kind
Speaker 1: of just went like, oh, he's just blind blind and
Speaker 1: they were like like they were trying to like pull
Speaker 1: like like it was like a sap. We were like
Speaker 1: at a table right, like a table, and they were
Speaker 1: like and they were like pulling. They're pulling pranks on
Speaker 1: each other, like pulling like ship like that. And then
Speaker 1: one of them this was like back like when I
Speaker 1: still had like acid decent blind vision and like one
Speaker 1: of them like flashed another one of them because they
Speaker 1: were like friends or something like that, and they didn't
Speaker 1: think I would see it, but I saw it.
Speaker 2: So in this one instance, being blind caused you to
Speaker 2: see more tits. Yes, that's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: Because they, I guess they were playing on the idea that, oh,
Speaker 1: just splore you continuer make the stereotype ship and uh,
Speaker 1: they just they sayd it real quick, And I was
Speaker 1: looking that way, and like I saw it. I didn't
Speaker 1: acknowledge it, but I saw it.
Speaker 2: So yes, somebody asked, uh, final question, have your other
Speaker 2: senses gotten better? And follow up? Can you at least
Speaker 2: feel tits better if you cannot see them?
Speaker 1: Yes, I can. I can feel Tip's just great. And
Speaker 1: that's actually the first question. Then my senses get better.
Speaker 1: That's a misconception. It's not that my senses got better,
Speaker 1: it's just I learned how to use them better. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense?
Speaker 2: Explain?
Speaker 1: So, Like I can't I obviously see my peripheral visions
Speaker 1: and ahead of me and behind me, right, but I
Speaker 1: can hear people walking from a distance to me, like
Speaker 1: I can hear the footsteps, and that's how I know
Speaker 1: that there's people there. I can't see you, but I
Speaker 1: can hear your footsteps, and yeah, that's how I know
Speaker 1: there's people coming up in front of me when I'm walking.
Speaker 2: Isaac, sir, thank you very much for sharing your story
Speaker 2: with us. This was fun, This was a good conversation.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that you wanted to talk about
Speaker 2: or that you wanted to say to the people of
Speaker 2: the computer before we go?
Speaker 1: Honestly, no, guest, It's like I don't want to pontificate
Speaker 1: or do anything like that. I'll just say, you know,
Speaker 1: hope everybody has a great rest of your day.
Speaker 2: That's it. Greg Hei, Thank you very much. Isaac, take
Speaker 2: care all right, bye, greck. I bet he is very
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Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 7: Okay, you want me to be real with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you texted me and you said my name is Eve,
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five, and I quote need you to talk
Speaker 2: some sense into me with two exclamation points. What does
Speaker 2: that mean?
Speaker 7: That means that I miss someone that logically I really shouldn't.
Speaker 7: I really shouldn't and and I guess I'm really just
Speaker 7: sitting with that, you know, like it's to us, I
Speaker 7: was in love with this person, and well things were
Speaker 7: really really toxic between us. He just upped and was
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna join the Marine peace out and so
Speaker 7: we try to make it work. It's obviously not gonna work,
Speaker 7: And honestly, like, I'm really glad that he left because
Speaker 7: I kind of left me alone and forced me to
Speaker 7: like sit with myself and like look at our relationship,
Speaker 7: which was not the greatest, but it's just lonely. Like
Speaker 7: he felt like one of the only people that understood
Speaker 7: me at that time. Even though that might just be
Speaker 7: a lie, I'm telling myself completely real.
Speaker 2: No, this is a very interesting topic. I like thinking
Speaker 2: about this, do what oh what was I going to say?
Speaker 2: Why was it toxic?
Speaker 7: I think drugs was a big part of that. Keep
Speaker 7: it was only weed.
Speaker 2: Okay, what kind of what kind of drugs?
Speaker 7: It was just weed, Like that's We would just smoke
Speaker 7: a lot together and it was really interesting time in
Speaker 7: my life. I was also in on that like spirituality wave,
Speaker 7: so just got into some like really crazy mindsets. So
Speaker 7: like when ever he would say something that was like
Speaker 7: kind of mean, I would be like, oh, no, no,
Speaker 7: it's just my ego. Like that's the only reason it
Speaker 7: bothers me is because it's my ego. And so I
Speaker 7: would like put a lot of things to the side
Speaker 7: that looking back, I'm like, oh, maybe maybe that should
Speaker 7: have been a red flag. Actually, it would.
Speaker 2: Kind of mean what kind of mean things would he say?
Speaker 7: He would talk a lot about his eggs, and he
Speaker 7: would compare me to her, and I even just saying that,
Speaker 7: I'm so embarrassed because like why why would I say?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 7: Why would I put myself through that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 7: But just just like stuff that you I don't think
Speaker 7: you should be like telling someone who you claim to
Speaker 7: love someone, right, he'd do that. He would talk a
Speaker 7: lot about like other women. He would talk about me
Speaker 7: like I I have like I used to have really
Speaker 7: bad acme uh and there's still some scarring on my
Speaker 7: cheeks and so like he would point it out and
Speaker 7: be like, why do you why do you have like
Speaker 7: marks on your face? I'm like, bro, you know why?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, so this is a thing of just
Speaker 2: like you, how long it has been broken up for.
Speaker 7: I haven't talked. I haven't spoke to him in three weeks.
Speaker 7: But we were really.
Speaker 2: On and off, so that so you are not I mean,
Speaker 2: so it's not even a thing of broken up or
Speaker 2: not broken up. YouTube were so on and off that
Speaker 2: it wasn't even like a light switch that turns on
Speaker 2: and off. It was just a flow of of up and.
Speaker 7: Down definitely, I mean gets a little deeper. Like I
Speaker 7: mentioned the drugs. I at one point was doing acid
Speaker 7: and I thought the universe was like easier soul may
Speaker 7: And now I know that's silly, but I think that's
Speaker 7: also where it kept me there so long.
Speaker 2: But you miss him after these three weeks, you miss him, yeah,
Speaker 2: are Yeah, I mean that happens, right, like you get
Speaker 2: fucking lonely and so and like the lonelier you get,
Speaker 2: the more, the more, the more you're willing to uh
Speaker 2: just fucking accept whatever.
Speaker 7: Mm hmm. Yeah. And I think it's also like rebuilding.
Speaker 2: Like I know, you know, it's a whole thing, you know.
Speaker 2: I know, it's like like for if you you spent
Speaker 2: you invested all of this time and energy, the fucking
Speaker 2: the energy that it takes to like get to know somebody,
Speaker 2: and the time it takes to get to know somebody
Speaker 2: is a lot. And so for you to be like
Speaker 2: sitting there thinking like, well, you know, there's this guy
Speaker 2: who already likes me and he's kind of shitty, but
Speaker 2: I'm willing to put up with it so that I
Speaker 2: don't have to put all the fucking time and energy
Speaker 2: into finding somebody who's less shitty.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, exactly, that's exactly right. And then also, like
Speaker 7: like I said, kind of stuck in the kind of
Speaker 7: weird spiritual space. So I thought like we were manifesting
Speaker 7: all these things. I thought we were going to be
Speaker 7: like the new Beyonce and Jaesus, I know, freaking high assholes,
Speaker 7: like we were both kind of ambitious people. And I'm
Speaker 7: sure you know it could be hard to find others
Speaker 7: who like want to do something cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I I I this is a tough thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, look obviously like the obviously the option, uh
Speaker 2: is it sounds pretty clear that yes, even though it's
Speaker 2: a lot of time and energy to invest in another relationship,
Speaker 2: it's like, I guess that's what you gotta do. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's what you gotta do. I mean you, I mean
Speaker 2: you don't even have to do that. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 2: even just being single is better than like being with
Speaker 2: someone who's like shitty to you because you don't want
Speaker 2: to be alone.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, you're right, And.
Speaker 2: That's a tough that's a tough that's a that's a
Speaker 2: that's really like a like an easy uh logical, like
Speaker 2: there's an easy conclusion to logically come to is that
Speaker 2: you're you're better off alone or doing the work with
Speaker 2: someone else than with somebody who's shitty. But we I
Speaker 2: don't think that we make these kinds of decisions logically.
Speaker 2: We make them very emotionally, and so the loneliness is
Speaker 2: gonna like throw logic to the fucking corner of the
Speaker 2: room and it'll make the decision of like, no, no,
Speaker 2: we need to ease our loneliness immediately, right fucking now,
Speaker 2: and text this a crazy marine guy, this is what happens.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know if I don't
Speaker 2: know what the Yeah, that's the thing. It's like, you
Speaker 2: can come you can come to all the enlightened conclusions
Speaker 2: that you want at the end of the day, Like
Speaker 2: that you've got to learn how to overcome that strong
Speaker 2: emotional fucking thing and your brain that's gonna make you wanna,
Speaker 2: you know, text this dude who is like being shitty
Speaker 2: to you. How does one overcome that that strong emotional
Speaker 2: part of the brain that's guiding them into illogical decisions? Uh?
Speaker 2: If you find that out, I want you to call
Speaker 2: me back and tell me because I don't really know. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's probably it probably has something to do with like
Speaker 2: mindfulness or I mean this is a specific like like
Speaker 2: that that journey right of overcoming that emotional force that's
Speaker 2: guiding you to make illogical, stupid decisions. There is something
Speaker 2: spirit There is something spiritual about that, you know, something
Speaker 2: about you got to tap into a higher human side
Speaker 2: of your brain and and kind of ignore the monkey
Speaker 2: part of you.
Speaker 7: The monkey, Yeah, the monkey.
Speaker 2: I don't And I don't know. I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: what do you think about all that?
Speaker 1: No? I I agree.
Speaker 7: I lately have just been listening to like David Gobbins
Speaker 7: yelling at me, like, do you want to do something
Speaker 7: better with your life? You gotta get up and get
Speaker 7: after me. And that gould of helped, but that could
Speaker 7: only get me so far. But I think it just
Speaker 7: like comes down to kind of, like you said, learning
Speaker 7: to be present and like actually making the changes. That's
Speaker 7: something you want, And that's like tough because not a
Speaker 7: lot of people like want change. And I'm speaking for myself,
Speaker 7: like I was in that relationship for three years and
Speaker 7: I mean I didn't even really get into like how
Speaker 7: it was at times abusive and stuff. But that's something
Speaker 7: that I sit back and look at and like, why
Speaker 7: why would I stay through that? Like why it doesn't
Speaker 7: make any sense? And I think it's just because I
Speaker 7: didn't want change, even though at that time, you know,
Speaker 7: I felt like I was on my spiritual journey. I
Speaker 7: felt like I was manifesting things. I felt like I
Speaker 7: was trying to find alignment with the universe or whatever
Speaker 7: whatever the people want to call it. It was really
Speaker 7: that I was addicted to the toxicity and up and
Speaker 7: down to my relationship.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, And by the way, you know, look,
Speaker 2: don't beat yourself up about it, because you were following
Speaker 2: a very It's it's human to like follow the lead
Speaker 2: of our emotions, causing us to make stupid fucking decisions,
Speaker 2: you know. So I don't think it's something to beat
Speaker 2: yourself up about. I don't know anyone who's mastered it.
Speaker 2: I get. I think to master it, you got to
Speaker 2: be like a literally a monk or something. I really
Speaker 2: don't know, like I, and I mean I I was
Speaker 2: feeling a type of way a couple of days ago,
Speaker 2: and I just I bought a PlayStation five. But I
Speaker 2: can only do that a couple times before it stops working.
Speaker 2: And then I got to find some other band aid.
Speaker 2: So it's really just I think maybe it's maybe it's
Speaker 2: a matter of just picking the least destructive band aid.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at right now, Like if I'm feeling
Speaker 2: very like, uh, like I need to calm my fucking emotions.
Speaker 2: It's like you can get high, you can uh eat
Speaker 2: a box of cocoa puffs, you can buy a PlayStation five,
Speaker 2: you can go on a walk. And I'm like, all right,
Speaker 2: I'll go on a walk, Like what's the which band
Speaker 2: aid will fuck up my life the.
Speaker 7: Least the least and also like trying to keep this fresh, right,
Speaker 7: like how many walks can you go on before you're like, oh,
Speaker 7: I've seen this tree tho.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess what I've been thinking. I'm I've
Speaker 2: been really theory crafting this stuff. I think it probably
Speaker 2: has something to do with like, like in the short term,
Speaker 2: when you're just like when you're like lonely and you're like,
Speaker 2: I'm so lonely. Fuck this, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna text uh my asshole marine boyfriend guy.
Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, that's something I could do to short term,
Speaker 2: you just gotta find a better a short term band
Speaker 2: aid for yourself and keep running them through into you
Speaker 2: because you're gonna hit You're right, You're gonna see the
Speaker 2: same tree over and over again, or eat the same
Speaker 2: brand of fucking cookie dough over and over again, and
Speaker 2: the returns they're gonna diminish. So like, do that in
Speaker 2: the short term, but then I guess in the long term,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know. This is like how to
Speaker 2: like fix your life, which I'm trying to figure out,
Speaker 2: is like, in the long term, you probably should be
Speaker 2: doing some thing to change the actual day to day
Speaker 2: of your life that's more of like a year or
Speaker 2: two or three or five or ten fucking whatever. And
Speaker 2: then in the short term, you know, you eat uh
Speaker 2: uh what I eat? I eat Mike and Ikes until
Speaker 2: but again, but find something better than eating mic and ikes.
Speaker 2: Fucking go on a to go on a walk, so
Speaker 2: just the least destructive band aid you can.
Speaker 1: Find, yeah, yeah, and then.
Speaker 2: Keep going and then eventually you'll die and it won't
Speaker 2: matter and you'll realize that it was all it was
Speaker 2: all you worried about everything for no reason, and now
Speaker 2: you're dust in a in a cave.
Speaker 7: I mean, I would hope to be like dust at
Speaker 7: the bottom of the ocean or something. I mean, okay, wait,
Speaker 7: ten does exist in the ocean.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything. I don't know stuff.
Speaker 7: You always say that, but I think you do.
Speaker 1: Like these are just but these are.
Speaker 2: Just like theories that I'm playing around with. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything for sure.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess that's the thing, right, none of us
Speaker 7: will ever know for sure until we know.
Speaker 2: I forgot what I was gonna say. Whatever, it doesn't matter. Well,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna what are you gonna do?
Speaker 7: I think I'm going to. Well, first, I've got some
Speaker 7: work to do, but I think I'm going to put
Speaker 7: myself out there and try and make new friends and
Speaker 7: just move on with That's a good idea. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: being out with some new people. The city I live
Speaker 7: in has lots of cool like art spaces and like,
Speaker 7: there's definitely a lot of things I can I could go.
Speaker 2: What city are you in?
Speaker 7: I'm in San Antonio?
Speaker 2: San Antonio? Okay, I have heard that's a real good
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 7: I have wager And how can I go along?
Speaker 2: Yeah? There we go. And next time you want to
Speaker 2: text your ex boyfriend, just go, just go to Waterburger
Speaker 2: instead and get everything.
Speaker 7: Actually, that sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 2: That's what I told you. I said, I don't know
Speaker 2: any of this stuff. This is my thing you're taking.
Speaker 2: I mean that's I can only tell you what I
Speaker 2: would do, and what I would do is not always
Speaker 2: the best thing to do.
Speaker 7: Uh Well, San Antonio is known for being like one
Speaker 7: of the most obese cities. I forgot who was There's
Speaker 7: some comedian that I was like, Damn, I've never seen
Speaker 7: more of fatmage in a city before.
Speaker 2: I was like, dang, that's the kind of fat that
Speaker 2: I'm getting to. Is that's the kind of fat that
Speaker 2: I'm getting to.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 2: I'm considering moving cities so that just optically I'm one
Speaker 2: of the skinnier people that would be. That's my backup plan.
Speaker 7: It's a plan.
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 7: Eva?
Speaker 2: Eva? Is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 2: the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 7: Drugs don't give you wisdom, They give you cool things
Speaker 7: to think about.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that, Uh, take care of it.
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling.
Speaker 7: Yeah you two level bus one by.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Drugs also just get your really fucked up. They
Speaker 2: get your high. So that you kind of just zone
Speaker 2: out or I don't know. They affect everyone differently, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know from Christina.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi there, What is your name? My name is Christina, Christina.
Speaker 2: What's up? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 7: I feel like.
Speaker 3: I think I'm having like a predicament about being ginger,
Speaker 3: and I think I'm just tired of it.
Speaker 2: Christina, do me a favor? Could you actually put me
Speaker 2: on speakerphone?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, is this better?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, you're having a predicament about being ginger? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's the predicament is?
Speaker 3: Like? Should I continue being ginger? If it is like
Speaker 3: a really big part of my life and it like
Speaker 3: it affects my every day, like like I get a
Speaker 3: lot of attention from it, and like a lot of
Speaker 3: men like are really weird about it. But I'd like
Speaker 3: i'd have to tell you, like why I'm ginger in
Speaker 3: the first place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, you're talking about it like
Speaker 2: it's isn't ginger? Like you are born with.
Speaker 3: Red hair, I was born ginger, but like it was
Speaker 3: on purpose.
Speaker 2: You were born, you were created ginger? How does that work?
Speaker 3: My mom, she she had like she had a really
Speaker 3: traumatic marriage and she left the marriage, and she she
Speaker 3: was like forty two at this point, and she bought
Speaker 3: a sperm donor who was ginger and so she could
Speaker 3: have ginger kids.
Speaker 2: Why did she specifically want to have ginger kids?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: She she was, she's like she passed away, but she's
Speaker 3: she was kind of racist and like weird and a
Speaker 3: little crazy, and she just had like a really you know,
Speaker 3: traumatic life. So I think that could have done it.
Speaker 3: But she got.
Speaker 2: Are the whitest white people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like, no, yeah.
Speaker 2: What is sher? Is your mom ginger?
Speaker 3: No? No, she's not ginger.
Speaker 2: Did you have much of a relationship with her?
Speaker 3: I did, Yeah, she she passed away like four years ago,
Speaker 3: but we didn't have like a very good relationship. I
Speaker 3: definitely like had a problem with how crazy she was
Speaker 3: and she ended up marrying a ginger when I was eleven,
Speaker 3: and so that was like just my stepdad was this
Speaker 3: ginger guy.
Speaker 2: So you're debating whether or not you would like to
Speaker 2: continue being ginger? What would you do if like you
Speaker 2: didn't want to, would you just like dye your hair
Speaker 2: and shit?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I'd probably just like dye my hair black.
Speaker 2: What kinds of cons are you experiencing from being ginger.
Speaker 3: So I I think like a lot of like I
Speaker 3: see a lot of memes on the Internet where people
Speaker 3: were like they're the ugly gingers and the attractive gingers,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I accidentally fell into that attractive
Speaker 3: category where men have like a fetish about gingers. So I, like,
Speaker 3: I go to work, I've had like multiple stalkers at
Speaker 3: my job. I was like a barista, so I had
Speaker 3: like multiple Like I had a man memorize my schedule
Speaker 3: and like he sent me flowers and like he ended
Speaker 3: up like getting pictures of me and like knowing my name.
Speaker 3: And I had no idea who this man was, but
Speaker 3: he would like send me letters at my work and
Speaker 3: like he I had to get like walked to my
Speaker 3: car for a month. And I've just had like a
Speaker 3: lot of situations like that, and I've dated a lot
Speaker 3: of people who are just like ginger fetish. It's it's
Speaker 3: really weird.
Speaker 2: So you well, let me ask you do you like
Speaker 2: being ginger?
Speaker 3: I think it's cool, Like I don't like the attention,
Speaker 3: but like my hairs cool.
Speaker 2: And I mean like I mean, listen, dog, here here's
Speaker 2: here's the thing is like in my opinion at the
Speaker 2: end of the day. It's like, regardless of of you know,
Speaker 2: what other people think. It's like, what I mean, what
Speaker 2: do you want to do? Like, if you like the
Speaker 2: way you look, I wouldn't change it just because of
Speaker 2: you know, other people. And if you don't like the
Speaker 2: way you look, then you should feel free to change
Speaker 2: it if you if you want to. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: regardless of whatever's going on outside of it, I would
Speaker 2: like tap into what what you want to do.
Speaker 3: That's true. I feel like i'd probably I want to
Speaker 3: stay ginger and just I don't know, by again or
Speaker 3: something to protect myself from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, here's the thing. You know, Uh,
Speaker 2: if you're attractive, you're going to get attention regardless of
Speaker 2: whether or not you're a ginger.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: I just think like maybe if I look a little
Speaker 3: bit edgier or like a little scarier, then maybe people
Speaker 3: would avoid me. I also have like the worst social
Speaker 3: anxiety ever.
Speaker 2: So you just okay, So you just are trying to
Speaker 2: find out how to what way can I look that
Speaker 2: will attract the least amount of attention to me as possible.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, math, that's how you want to do it.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If again, if I were you, I
Speaker 2: would just it's how you want to look and be.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: What the fuck was I gonna say? Oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: said a bunch of crazy stuff. You were like your
Speaker 2: your parents, your mom made you ginger on. But can
Speaker 2: you even do that's like a thing you can do,
Speaker 2: Like can you go into a sperm donor and like
Speaker 2: could you you just buy? Like what you can just
Speaker 2: be like, hey, I want you can like custom create
Speaker 2: a character your baby, and like you can like race
Speaker 2: and ship.
Speaker 3: Allegedly, there's like a rule against gingers donating sperm because
Speaker 3: we have such high levels of skin cancer and like
Speaker 3: they think it's genetic, but obviously it's just because we're pale.
Speaker 3: But somehow my mom found one and I'm ginger now
Speaker 3: and I have like a bunch of documents from the
Speaker 3: guy who donated and it describes his appearance. It doesn't
Speaker 3: give his name, but he's like ginger, blue eyes, six foot,
Speaker 3: he was like an engineer, So yeah, you can you
Speaker 3: can pick all that stuff out.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that South Park episode?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's pretty funny. I've definitely set my
Speaker 3: boyfriend it and he liked a lot.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because you would think like I because
Speaker 2: I maybe it's just like ginger guys or whatever. But
Speaker 2: I always thought that there was a general uh uh
Speaker 2: anti ginger sentiment.
Speaker 3: Well, ginger guys get the worst of it. Ginger women
Speaker 3: are just like they're They're usually thought of as like attractive,
Speaker 3: but like ginger guys get the worst, Like they're automatically
Speaker 3: going to be kind of weird and like pale.
Speaker 2: You know, do you are you? Are you actively unattracted
Speaker 2: to ginger guys?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never date a ginger. Imagine how weird
Speaker 3: that would be.
Speaker 2: That's pretty funny.
Speaker 3: I got like shipped with gingers when I was in
Speaker 3: middle school though, like everyone thought I was going to
Speaker 3: date the other ginger, which is weird.
Speaker 2: So you're anti ginger guys? Is there a dating the ship?
Speaker 2: Is there a like a ginger meat?
Speaker 3: Really incestuous? You know?
Speaker 2: Incestuous? Yeah, here's the let me tell you something. You
Speaker 2: could take any relationship and if you go back far enough,
Speaker 2: it's incestuous.
Speaker 3: But like gingers, especially because they're just from one island,
Speaker 3: Is that true? Well, I guess you could be Scottish,
Speaker 3: but like the land of Ireland is such a small island,
Speaker 3: and like.
Speaker 7: I just wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't date someone that was a redhead because
Speaker 3: like whenever I see like a flash of orange or
Speaker 3: like red, it's like my reflection. So I'd probably get
Speaker 3: like jump scared. I just think that there's like a
Speaker 3: mini me with me.
Speaker 2: Do you would you date any Irish person?
Speaker 3: Maybe? I I kind of know probably not.
Speaker 2: Someone should make that. Is that a thing? Gingermait hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on just real quick. I'm gonna google this. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna google this real quick. Okay, hold on, uh, let's see.
Speaker 3: Gin someone in the chat that I have a PhD.
Speaker 1: And Gingery.
Speaker 2: Ginger dating. I'm not like those other podcasts where like
Speaker 2: they can pull shit up. I just have like, okay, Ginger, Oh,
Speaker 2: there it is redhead Dates.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 2: Dot com choose your country, United States, join for free today. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: there it is find your red Okay, so oh you
Speaker 2: know what, all right? I think I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is for I think this is for just anyone
Speaker 2: looking for a redheaded wife. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: have to necessarily be a redhead.
Speaker 3: I've I like, did this is like a secret, but
Speaker 3: like I may have done a little bit of sex
Speaker 3: work before, and I think I definitely benefited or like
Speaker 3: crofited off of it, like men go crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: By the way, I just if I could take this
Speaker 2: time to just on in my personal life, if anyone
Speaker 2: out there just like has a fetish they specifically like
Speaker 2: Jewish men, I don't care at all. I don't mind.
Speaker 2: Just I'm just throwing that out there.
Speaker 3: I'm pro ginger fetishists because that's where I make the money.
Speaker 2: You So, there we go. Everything works out, I think,
Speaker 2: and I'm still a breetist. So they tip, Well, so
Speaker 2: what do you are before we go? Do you think
Speaker 2: you're gonna do it? Are you gonna stay?
Speaker 3: Or you know, honestly, at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it's really just how lazy I am. And I'm too
Speaker 3: lazy to die my hair black and like manage to
Speaker 3: upkeep with it.
Speaker 5: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing. It's a whole fucking it's a
Speaker 2: bunch of work. Yeah, well, what's your name again, Christina?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna have it? Would you want to have
Speaker 2: ginger kids?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. My boyfriend's Mexican no way.
Speaker 2: But if you have kids with your boyfriend, they're gonna
Speaker 2: be half Ginger, half Mexican.
Speaker 3: No, they're gonna be Mexican. There's no way.
Speaker 2: The way you hold on, hold on, hold by the way,
Speaker 2: the way you said that, the way you said that
Speaker 2: just now, the way you said that just now made
Speaker 2: it sound like if you had a ginger kid you
Speaker 2: would kill them.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe, well, don't throw a child in the dumpster. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make that my official and I'm gonna make that
Speaker 2: an official Therapy Gecko opinion. Uh, Christina, is there anything
Speaker 2: else you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 2: before we go? Hip or Buris says, take care?
Speaker 3: Okay, you too?
Speaker 2: By Christina Bye, Dan, that's pretty crazy. She said she
Speaker 2: might kill one of her kids, but I don't She
Speaker 2: was probably joking. Hello, folks, it's Lyle here. That's the
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Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 5: You can say my name?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: That was?
Speaker 2: That was That's a That's a crazy way to answer
Speaker 2: that question. That's the craziest way I've ever heard someone
Speaker 2: atswer that question. What's your name? You can say my name.
Speaker 2: It's like if you were a demon that escapes from
Speaker 2: my head and I met you on the street in
Speaker 2: the form of a human and I was like, what's
Speaker 2: your name? And you were like, you can say my name?
Speaker 2: You know me, I'm the demon in your head.
Speaker 5: I have a book called The Testament of Solomon that
Speaker 5: I read and it describes all the demons in hell,
Speaker 5: so I know quite a few demons.
Speaker 2: Well, what's going on with you, Daniel?
Speaker 5: I currently have a warrant for my arrest right now.
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Speaker 2: All right, I have nothing else to say, Goes on
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