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Speaker 1: Welcome to America's Voice Live. I'm Steve Giver. Today is Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty fourth of December. It's Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas

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Speaker 1: you today with this Christmas Eve edition of Real America's Voice,

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Speaker 1: Let's dive right in. As I said, Christmas Eve, of

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Speaker 1: As families gear up for a cozy united by the

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Speaker 1: Christmas Tree and the children anxiously wait for the following

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Speaker 1: share with you of the people what I think would

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Speaker 1: make great Christmas presents for America.

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Speaker 3: Here's a Christmas wish list if you will.

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Speaker 1: First off, I'd love to see the border remain secure

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Speaker 1: for the safety and sanctity of this country. President Trump

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Speaker 1: promised that he would shut down the border on day

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Speaker 1: one of his second presidency, and to no surprise, he's

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Speaker 1: kept that promise. He's worked at it and continues to.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden allowed thousands, if not millions, of illegals into

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Speaker 1: the country, all without proper documentation from regular folks, to

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Speaker 1: what the President has termed bad ombreys. We saw multiple

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Speaker 1: innocent lives taken by some of these criminals, lives of

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Speaker 1: But now, thanks to the efforts of President Trump, the

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Speaker 1: Border patrol agents are now allowed to do their job

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Speaker 3: Tom Hollman broke it down. He said it this way.

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Speaker 4: If your illego ali United Stasis message for you, you

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Speaker 4: cannot hide from Ice. We're actually looking for you. Frederal

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Speaker 4: All requires every alien United States who has been president

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Speaker 4: For those fourteen years or older, you need to be

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Speaker 4: fingerprinted with a partner Homeland Security. Frederal All requires every

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Speaker 4: you have a change in address when ten days of

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Speaker 1: Preliminary data shows both at US Border Patrol apprehensions and

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Speaker 1: to set new records for border security, and we must

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Speaker 1: keep it that way. We don't need criminals coming into

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Speaker 1: And that leads me to the next thing on the list,

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Speaker 1: This is all thanks to the Democrats push of a

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Speaker 1: Take Abrahio Garcia, for example, an illegal alien criminal ties

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Speaker 3: That assessment raises serious questions.

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Speaker 1: How does anyone reconcile praise for Wall's leadership with the

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Speaker 5: I want to ask you something else that the architect

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Speaker 5: of this argument of failure to assimilate and sort of

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Speaker 6: And to me, you know, we're yes, of course, ethnically smallly.

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Speaker 1: Now as this scandal continues to unfold, Republicans say voters

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Speaker 1: And this is this is just a small example of

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Speaker 3: And you guessed it.

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Speaker 1: Maine is a blue state run by a Democrat governor,

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Speaker 1: Because nothing like being a Democrat to fail upward. We'll

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Speaker 1: the claims are true. And when we do, we'll just

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Speaker 1: hear more of the same from Democrats who accused Trump

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Speaker 1: the taxpayer, Which leads me to the next item on

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Speaker 1: my list, abolishment of the IRS and the income tax.

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Speaker 1: We all know that the IRS has been used to

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Speaker 3: For example, Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: Was the mastermind behind using government institutions against his political opponents.

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Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, he turned the IRS against conservative nonprofits.

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Speaker 1: Investigations later confirmed that there were severe mismanagement and bias

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Speaker 1: collusion hoax. He unmassed Trump's associates during intelligence operations, trying

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Speaker 1: it's time for the irs to see to exist. Sounds nice,

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Speaker 3: Now that would be a great Christmas present, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 1: Right Next on my list, I have protecting American agriculture.

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Speaker 1: Farmers are the backbone of America. You're probably enjoying some

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Speaker 3: Beef and so much more.

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Speaker 1: It's essential we ensure the success of these farmers so

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Speaker 3: President Trump understands this.

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Speaker 1: That's why earlier this month he announced a twelve billion

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Speaker 1: dollar aid package for farmers.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 7: I'm delighted to announce this afternoon that the United States

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Speaker 7: will be taking a small portion of the hundreds of

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Speaker 7: relatively small portion of that, and we're going to be

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Speaker 7: So we're going to use that money to provide twelve

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Speaker 7: provide much needed certainty to farmers as they get this

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Speaker 7: and it'll help them continue their efforts to lower food

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Speaker 3: Twelve billion dollars. Nice move.

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Speaker 1: We not only need to protect the farmers, but also

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Speaker 1: I held a special right here in Real America's Voice

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Speaker 1: with John Solomon of Just the News on this important topic,

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Speaker 1: and it really is. If America loses its agriculture, the

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Speaker 1: results would be devastating for the entire country and honestly

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Speaker 1: the world.

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Speaker 3: And that's not an understatement.

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Speaker 1: And finally, I want President Trump to continue to make

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Speaker 1: America great again. Is becoming America again after four years

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Speaker 1: of a failed Biden administration. Takes a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to fix that. But thanks to President Trump, the American

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Speaker 1: Now that is the best Christmas present you or I

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Speaker 3: You know another thing that would be nice for Christmas?

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Speaker 1: Peace the end of the nearly four year long war

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Speaker 1: Is former Navy sealing former FBI special agent Jonathan Gilliam Jonathan.

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Speaker 3: Nice to see you again.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you as well.

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Speaker 1: Look, nothing would be better for Christmas than an end

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, I wouldn't call you pastors, I

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Speaker 8: I mean Putin's shady as well. But Putin is a

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Speaker 3: His level, he becomes predictable.

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Speaker 8: And it would not surprise me if during the time

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: And I look at this war and I say to

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Speaker 1: In a peace deal, people are going to have to

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 8: And see, here's the problem and the reality of this

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Speaker 8: And at this point in time, Russia I believe they

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Jonathan, because you mentioned NATO

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Speaker 1: Really a military, is Germany is the UK Are they

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Speaker 1: Russian armies turned out to be weaker than I anticipated

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, I agree with you in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 8: And look at Russia has faced greater enemies many times,

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Speaker 3: So it's going to be in a stalemate until that point.

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Speaker 3: One other war that has turned hot, and that's the war.

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Speaker 1: On drugs, And I just want touch this real quickly

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Speaker 3: The Trump administration taking out these drug.

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Speaker 1: Running boats, which by the way, was not authorized by

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Speaker 1: That's what gave the authorization to shoot drug running boats.

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Speaker 1: It was very prevalent in the eighties and nineties, and

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Speaker 8: What qualification does he have to be telling anybody what

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Speaker 1: Under thousand Americans will dive overdoses this year from illegal

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Gilliam, let's open the new year. We can reduce

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Speaker 1: these drug deaths and make it a better place. Thank

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 8: And let me tell you something, as far as those

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Speaker 8: and then that would dry up the market for these

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna leave it right there. Thank you, Jonathan.

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Speaker 1: I got to run This is America's Voice live.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think the snow started here in Michigan. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Two weeks before Thanksgiving. It has not let up.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's a white Christmas around here. You know,

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Speaker 3: David, here we are on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: I think Santa Claus just flew behind you, but I'm

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 10: We're hoping for a white Christmas here in New York.

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Speaker 10: And you know, Christmas Eve is very special in our family, Steve,

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Speaker 10: It's a very special night. The feast of the Seven

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Speaker 10: Fishes as an Italian family, very exciting. And cooking with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always a fun butt all right. So here

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Speaker 1: here's the big question. I want to know any presents

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Speaker 3: Are none at all? You see, it's always been our

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Speaker 1: You get one on Christmas Eve, you don't get to

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Speaker 3: Well, what about your household?

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Speaker 10: So Christmas Eve we exchange gifts with my brother. I

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Speaker 2: We do exchange.

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Speaker 1: But I've still been out sledging a couple times this

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Speaker 3: In fact, you do anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Do you go out and stroll and look at the

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Speaker 1: Christmas lights? Do you go out and enjoy the singing

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Speaker 1: or the walking around or the sledding?

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Speaker 3: Are you a sledding man, David?

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Speaker 10: I was for a couple of decades. Now it's a

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Speaker 10: little harder, but I will say we always wait for

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Speaker 10: the local fire department with their motorcade and Santa on

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Speaker 10: the back of the last fire truck, and we try

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Speaker 10: to have the grandkids there for that we make our

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Speaker 10: way into the city.

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Speaker 2: I have two.

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Speaker 10: Children and grandchildren in Manhattan, so we try to do

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Speaker 10: that during the holiday season as well, and it's a

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Speaker 10: very special time, you know, from Thanksgiving through Christmas and

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Speaker 10: then New Year's It's pretty much NonStop. My house is

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Speaker 10: like Grand Central Station there on Long Island.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm guessing this other tradition from where I'm from

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Speaker 1: probably not in your list either. You know, we drag

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Speaker 1: the kids around on a sled behind a snowmobile or

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Speaker 1: a quad or whatever we've got in the snow. My

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Speaker 1: brother's attempted to kill me numerous times when I was

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Speaker 1: a child. We do a lot of that sort of thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing ice fishing is not on your schedule either, David.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's wrong with you people in New York.

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Speaker 10: No, When I was a kid, I used to skitch

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Speaker 10: on the back of garbage trucks with my friends. It's

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Speaker 10: lucky we're still alive here. But there's two point eight

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Speaker 10: million people on Long Island, so we don't have the

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Speaker 10: snow trails and the snowmobiling and the quads and all

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Speaker 10: that like we do Upstate New York. But we do

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Speaker 10: have a second home upstate. Winter is wonderful up there

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Speaker 10: on Lake Sacondaga, the cleanest watershed in New York. It's

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Speaker 10: very special. About sixty cousins gather throughout the year, so

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Speaker 10: it's very special. We have kind of the best of

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Speaker 10: both worlds.

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Speaker 3: Well, David, I won't keep on any longer.

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Speaker 1: You've got presence to exchange for your brother and enjoy

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Speaker 1: that family time together. I love the fire in the background.

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Speaker 1: Just a beautiful scene. I wish it was a David's house. David,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you and your family, my friend.

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Speaker 10: Thanks so much, Dave, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: There you have it, David's here. You know, I've never

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Speaker 1: done Christmas in a place like New York. I would,

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Speaker 1: but it is more fun behind the quad, taking the

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Speaker 1: kids around the yard. I'm telling you, that's one of

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Speaker 1: our Christmas traditions. Hopefully we'll be here come Monday. I

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Speaker 1: just hope we survived the weekend. All right, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not you got your Christmas shopping done on

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Speaker 1: Christmas Eve today, or if you're still out there scrambling

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Speaker 1: for the last minute gifts at a nice store like

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Speaker 1: seven to eleven, I'm hoping you guests kept those receipts.

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Speaker 1: Because the topic of affordability has become the cudgel for Democrats,

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Speaker 1: everything else failed.

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Speaker 3: The government shutdown.

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Speaker 1: Failed, drug boats failed, let's go to affordability and tell

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Speaker 1: people will give them all sorts of free stuff.

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Speaker 3: President Trump has maintained.

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Speaker 1: His push for affordability, ramped up the effort these past

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Speaker 1: few months with the indrection of those Trump accounts for

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Speaker 1: kids and the federal assistance for farmers with a tune

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Speaker 1: of twelve billion dollars. Another point for affordability has to

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Speaker 1: do with gas prices. Two thirds of the country now

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Speaker 1: under three dollars a gallon. I saw a station in

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Speaker 1: Denver sell in gas for a buck sixty nine just

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. It's a welcome development, certainly,

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Speaker 1: and it's appreciative of the people that travel like myself.

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Speaker 1: Join me to discuss further as tax attorney, Chairman of

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Speaker 1: Americans for Fair Trade, Steve Hayes, Steve, nice to see it.

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Speaker 9: Nice to see you again, Steve, as always in Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Hey Christmas to you. Look.

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Speaker 1: Energy is the foundation of this economy. And I forgot

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Speaker 1: to mention the Fed drop the rate again. That's for

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Speaker 1: the stock market on but really, energy is the foundation

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Speaker 1: of the American economy. When energy is cheap, America does better.

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Speaker 1: Americans have more money in their pocket when they pay

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Speaker 1: less for gas, for electricity, for all energy.

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Speaker 3: It's true, isn't it.

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Speaker 11: It's absolutely true, and it's been true, and it's going

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Speaker 11: to continue to be true going forward. You know, we've

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Speaker 11: got a situation which is what it should be. I mean,

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Speaker 11: under the Biden administration, prices went up twenty percent, and

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Speaker 11: now you've got President Trump, burdened with that twenty percent

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Speaker 11: increase in prices, working desperately and really in a very

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Speaker 11: smart way to bring prices down. And the biggest thing

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Speaker 11: is not only do we have record drilling domestically, but

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Speaker 11: we also have enough pressure on those prices that we

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Speaker 11: are going to see prices come down. I think the

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Speaker 11: national average except it's kewed. But without California and in

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Speaker 11: New York a few other states that have insanely high

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Speaker 11: taxes that they impose, you know, it's under three dollars now.

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Speaker 11: So we're talking a huge difference or a family that drives,

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Speaker 11: and it's the most important difference. It's the fact that

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Speaker 11: the lower income families are the ones that are hit

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Speaker 11: hardest by that extra twenty to thirty cents or fifty

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Speaker 11: cents a gallon. You're giving them money in their pocket again,

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Speaker 11: you know, and the Biden administration, people actually may have

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Speaker 11: gotten a raise, but they weren't able to buy as much,

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Speaker 11: so their real value of their dollar went down. What

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Speaker 11: we're seeing is a recovery of that, and we're starting

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Speaker 11: to see some of the same indicators. No matter how

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Speaker 11: much the Fed and other people try to stop this.

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Speaker 11: And I say that because I really believe it that

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Speaker 11: they're actually trying to stop it. You're seeing we're starting

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Speaker 11: to go back to the first years of the first

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Speaker 11: Trump administration, and the growth is starting to move more

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Speaker 11: consistently up. People's lives are going to improve, the economy

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Speaker 11: is going to proof, and you're going to see a

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Speaker 11: very interesting situation at the midterm. Because quite honestly, that's

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Speaker 11: probably why the Democrats shut the country down, because the

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Speaker 11: economy slowed way down during the shutdown. They may try

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Speaker 11: it again in January for the same reason, because the

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Speaker 11: only thing that matters to many of the people in

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Speaker 11: DC is taking control back and stopping these reforms which

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Speaker 11: are a real threat. That's right, so they're in ventrol.

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Speaker 1: They don't really care about the folks. They care about

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Speaker 1: power and control. The GDP, though even with forty three

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Speaker 1: days of mindless shutdown is going to be at least

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Speaker 1: three percent for the fourth quarter. Some say it could

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Speaker 1: be as high as four percent for the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to carry into twenty twenty sixth.

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Speaker 3: Those are great numbers, Steve.

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Speaker 9: Incredible numbers.

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Speaker 11: You know. The problem that the president has, in my opinion,

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Speaker 11: is that he's got some very very good indicators going

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Speaker 11: into the midterms because the economy is going to continue

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Speaker 11: to grow unless they shut down the economy again by

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Speaker 11: the government shutdown, which will slow it down, but it

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Speaker 11: won't stop it because it's on a nice trajectory up.

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Speaker 9: But what he's got to be able to show people

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Speaker 9: is that, look.

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Speaker 11: The reason your prices are high isn't me, it's the

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Speaker 11: former administration in their policies. What we're doing is we're

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Speaker 11: bringing prices down. And he can point to fuel costs,

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Speaker 11: he can point to mortgage rates, and I believe he's

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Speaker 11: going to be able to point to some changes that

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Speaker 11: are going to start taking impact in grocery stores of

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Speaker 11: lower prices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard on the radio of mortgage rates thirty

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Speaker 1: year mortgage below six points.

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Speaker 3: That was before the rate cut by the Fed.

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Speaker 1: So you could be down at five and three quarters,

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Speaker 1: maybe five and a half.

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Speaker 3: On a good deal. That's pretty important.

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Speaker 1: What if the president can come and tell the American

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Speaker 1: people we solved Obamacare. I mean, look, rates have gone

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Speaker 1: up for Obamacare and delivery of services have gone down

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Speaker 1: for fifteen years. If we can put in health savings

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Speaker 1: accounts or this idea from Ram Paul to have these

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Speaker 1: co ops, these healthcare associations where you can have forty

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Speaker 1: million people get up and say look, United Healthcare, look

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Speaker 1: Blue Cross, We're going to negotiate, not every man from

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Speaker 1: self type nonsense. If they deliver a savings for the

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Speaker 1: American taxpayer, stop enriching the insurance companies, that can go

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Speaker 1: a long way from the midterms too, couldn't it.

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Speaker 9: It can go a huge way.

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Speaker 11: And what he's got to do, I believe, and he's

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Speaker 11: starting to do this, he's got to frame it on

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Speaker 11: the fact that Obamacare right now is rampant with fraud.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look at all of the numbers that are uncovering,

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Speaker 11: and they've only got thirty one states reporting. Some of

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Speaker 11: the biggest areas of fraud are probably in the large

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Speaker 11: states like New York, California, Illinois that aren't reporting. So

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Speaker 11: you've got a huge amount of fraud. That's a justification

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Speaker 11: in and of itself. To really take a look at this.

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Speaker 11: You've got the insurance, as you said, rates that have

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Speaker 11: skyrocketed because the companies have been basically taking what they

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Speaker 11: consider free money and providing no further additional benefits.

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Speaker 9: So if we can.

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Speaker 11: Come back and in this country have a health plan

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Speaker 11: that allows more choice, either through like you said, the

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Speaker 11: co ops, or through individual savings accounts that are insurance

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Speaker 11: accounts what are you going to call them? That can

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Speaker 11: be used to get your own coverage, You're going to

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Speaker 11: see a tremendous improvement not only in the cost of

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Speaker 11: health care, but I really predict the quality of healthcare

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Speaker 11: because they're going to have to deliver much better service

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Speaker 11: to get my.

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Speaker 1: Dollar, yeah, at a better price. It's called the free market.

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Speaker 1: It works if you let it and get government out

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Speaker 1: of the way. Steve Hayes Iles appreciate talking you. I

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Speaker 1: can tell you right now, twenty twenty six looks pretty

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Speaker 1: good right now, doesn't it.

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Speaker 9: It looks incredibly good.

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Speaker 11: It's not going to work as well if the Republicans

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Speaker 11: don't keep the House and the Senate.

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Speaker 9: But I think there's a good chance of doing it.

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Speaker 1: Steve Hayes always appreciate timing you. Merry Christmas, my friend, Merry.

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Speaker 9: Christmas again to you.

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Speaker 12: Thank you. There you have. It's Steve Hayes. Look twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty six. I'm bullish on twenty twenty six, so is he.

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Speaker 12: We'll take a break in America's Voice Live and.

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Speaker 3: Be right back.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: It is the season of giving, and what we often

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Speaker 1: think about the ones closest to us, we have to

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Speaker 1: also acknowledge the strangers in need out there.

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Speaker 3: Every year. We often hear of tangible efforts in.

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Speaker 1: The form of food and toy drives or soup kitchens,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes holidays can be painful, urging these efforts to

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Speaker 1: evolve groups like the one I'm about to introduce you

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Speaker 1: to provide structure and leadership for communities to stand in

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Speaker 1: the gap for people that are really in need. But

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Speaker 1: the real power comes from people choosing to serve joy

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Speaker 1: to discuss is US Navy veteran and founder of the

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Speaker 1: non profit organization, the Dwayne Moore Foundation.

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Speaker 3: It's Dwayne Moore himself. Dwayne. Nice to have you here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, get out the new room. I'm glad to be here, sir.

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Speaker 3: It's a hot meal.

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Speaker 1: That's great, it's fellowship, that's great. But I understand you

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Speaker 1: do a lot more than that. Tell us about the

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Moore Foundation.

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Speaker 13: You know, man, it's funny you say that because a

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Speaker 13: lot of time people never understand. You know, we show up,

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Speaker 13: you know, certain parts of the year, whether it be

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Speaker 13: Easter holiday, whether it be Thanksgiving, or whether it be Christmas.

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Speaker 2: But it's three hundred and sixty five days a year.

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Speaker 13: When you start dealing with grassroots efforts and the things

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Speaker 13: that you do in the grassroots, you start to realize

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Speaker 13: how many people out there that are faced with these issues,

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Speaker 13: especially in some of our social economic suppress communities.

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Speaker 2: So it is a tall task.

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Speaker 13: And you know, it's more than just showing up on

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Speaker 13: the holidays, especially in the ones that we call the

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Speaker 13: season of Giving. It's a lot more going to it.

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Speaker 13: And so we're humble and we're honored to be a

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Speaker 13: vessel to have the ability to help those who are Indeed.

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Speaker 3: Well, you're right, Dwayne.

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Speaker 1: I mean people think about it a Thanksgiving and Christmas

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Speaker 1: in the Eastern other holidays, but.

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Speaker 3: There are big stretches of the year when you don't

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Speaker 3: have a major holiday.

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Speaker 1: I don't see people going out on the food drive

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Speaker 1: for Flag Day, but they should, is the point you're making,

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Speaker 1: because it's a year round need, right.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, it's a year around need.

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Speaker 13: I mean, when you think about it, there's you know

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Speaker 13: a lot of times there are forgotten communities. I say,

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Speaker 13: and per se, sometime we don't look at it. You know,

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Speaker 13: you got suburban America, it's not a forgotten community. But

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Speaker 13: when you start looking at urban inner city America and

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Speaker 13: you start looking at rural America, there are a lot

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Speaker 13: of needs that need to be mad. And you know,

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Speaker 13: we give kudos to a lot of the organizations and

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Speaker 13: foundations who really promote these initiatives throughout the year because

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Speaker 13: that's how we're able to find some of these great

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Speaker 13: organizations to kind of help be more of a pillar

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Speaker 13: to bridge some of these gaps.

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Speaker 2: So it is, it's a tall task. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of work to be done.

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Speaker 13: I think it's a proverbial biblical that the harvest is plentiful,

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Speaker 13: but the labor is a few.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly true. You have you've got to plant the

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Speaker 1: seed for the harvest. We know that, but you've got

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Speaker 1: to have people that deliver the harvest when it's done,

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Speaker 1: or plant that seed, or do the work in the

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Speaker 1: field to keep the weeds out. All of those things

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Speaker 1: are true. You mentioned rural America, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: so true. If you're in the city or the suburbs,

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Speaker 1: usually you can find something to get through. But if

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Speaker 1: you're on a back road, you know, somewhere in the

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Speaker 1: middle of Missouri or Alabama or wherever, you might just

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Speaker 1: be forgotten, you know, passed by by everybody else because

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Speaker 1: they don't realize there's somebody in that house who needs

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Speaker 1: a meal, there's something in that house that needs a prayer,

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Speaker 1: there's something that house just needs to talk to somebody, right.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely, I mean you know, I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 13: Sometimes in some of the schools systems that we have

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Speaker 13: across our country, especially in some of those rural areas,

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Speaker 13: when you start to see suppression, sometimes it comes as

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Speaker 13: a grade being failing, and I think it brands an

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Speaker 13: awareness to some of the guidance counsels of what's going on, the.

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Speaker 2: Reason why this kid is spelled in school.

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Speaker 13: And sometimes we have to dig a little bit deeper

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Speaker 13: to understand what's really going on. At hunting, you got

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Speaker 13: to get to the roofs of what's really going on

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Speaker 13: in us And a lot of times you start to see,

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Speaker 13: well is this kid eating. If the kid is not eating,

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Speaker 13: why it is not the kid eating? So let me

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Speaker 13: tell you it's a lot of digging. But when you

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Speaker 13: go beneath the surface, you start to understand that it

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Speaker 13: takes a lot to make up a village, it takes

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Speaker 13: a lot to make up a community. And we need

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Speaker 13: individuals who are going to get in the grassroots in

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Speaker 13: order to help make some of these provisions, because let

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Speaker 13: me tell you, there is more people that's out there

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Speaker 13: hungry and in need than there are people that are

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Speaker 13: in a dance here in our society.

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Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you on that, and we need

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Speaker 3: to reach out.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that happened here in recent

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Speaker 1: years during COVID, especially small charities were really hit hard.

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Speaker 1: Those being bringing a million dollars or less, they took

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Speaker 1: it harder. The big charities always make it through because

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Speaker 1: they have enough roots and reach to get the money

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Speaker 1: they need to keep going. But some of these small

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Speaker 1: charities that do work on the back roads or in

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Speaker 1: the inner cities, those are the ones that took the

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Speaker 1: biggest hit, and those are the ones that may have

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Speaker 1: created the most need in some areas.

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Speaker 3: Would you agree with that, man.

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Speaker 2: I totally agree.

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Speaker 13: And I always talk about this when you talk about

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Speaker 13: social issues and social movements, when you talk about activists

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Speaker 13: or who are in the grass roofs, those are usually

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Speaker 13: the small initiative. Those are usually the small nonprofits and

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Speaker 13: foundation that is not enough awareness that's brought to them

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Speaker 13: in order for them to survive. And so it happens

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Speaker 13: that the bigger ones, you know, gets all the awareness,

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Speaker 13: all attention, all the donor base.

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Speaker 2: When I'm not I'm not I'm not kicking them, but

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Speaker 2: usually them walk from a commercial corporate.

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Speaker 13: Level to where they're getting the funding. But the ones

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Speaker 13: that really make the most impact and most influent influential

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Speaker 13: all those small organizations. And you're right, a lot of

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Speaker 13: them got to gobble up, you know, from COVID days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And those small organizations are the ones that know

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Speaker 1: people in the community. The corporate charities, look, I give

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Speaker 1: them credit to there's some great ones out there, but

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Speaker 1: it's the small ones that are connected to that community,

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Speaker 1: that are connected to those people that might have more

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Speaker 1: awareness of who needs that meal or who needs that

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Speaker 1: fellowship or who needs that prayer.

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Speaker 3: Dwayne, I'll give you the last word.

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Speaker 2: Man. Listen.

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Speaker 13: You know, I again, I don't I don't kick the

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Speaker 13: large organizations who are out there, but I think, you know,

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Speaker 13: even from a political standpoint of view, I think that

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Speaker 13: I'll always say, whether you're a US senator, whether you're

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Speaker 13: a governor, whether you're just a city council person, like

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Speaker 13: you need to have someone that's boosts on the ground

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Speaker 13: within our communities, within our cities and within our counties.

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Speaker 2: That's why those communities are not forguiding.

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Speaker 13: Yes, we deal with a lot of political thing issues,

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Speaker 13: but I think we have to deal with some of

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Speaker 13: those grassroot concerns that's within our community.

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Speaker 1: Dwane Moore of the Dwayne Moore Foundation out there doing

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Speaker 1: the heavy lifting and the places that people don't always see.

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Speaker 3: Dwayne, thank you for doing what you do.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you guys for bringing attention and awareness to

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Speaker 2: what we do.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend. There it is.

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Speaker 1: Look, the smaller charities are the ones that took the

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Speaker 1: biggest hit, and they're the ones that had the biggest

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Speaker 1: need in that and like I said, they connect to

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Speaker 1: communities like yours. If you're in a smaller place or

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Speaker 1: in a place that's kind of passed by by time.

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Speaker 1: Look at those smaller charities, and in the season of giving,

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Speaker 1: maybe you can give a little bit of help too.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break and be back. It is America's

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Speaker 1: voice live. What makes America wonderful. We do it every

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Speaker 1: day with the whole putting a smile on your face.

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Speaker 1: Today's story comes to us from Lebanon, Ohio, where every

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Speaker 1: year a woman who has diligently thanked the one who

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Speaker 1: turned her life around. Kimberly Slaven's remembers to summer the fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, is the day in which she got a

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Speaker 1: much needed wake up call after a routine traffic stop

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Speaker 1: quickly turned harry as the sergeant who pulled her over

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Speaker 1: found her to be impaired and cited her with an

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Speaker 1: ow I, her second in just the span of sixteen months.

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Speaker 3: After that, Slavens chose to be sober and chose.

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Speaker 1: To diligently hand deliver a letter to Sergeant Brettlee every year,

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Speaker 1: thanking him for helping her realize that the past she

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Speaker 1: was on would only lead to heartache and suffering. This year, however,

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Speaker 1: the tradition became even more special as Slavean's celebrated ten

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Speaker 1: years of sobriety. Ten years. I tip my hat to that,

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Speaker 1: marking a huge milestone for both of these people. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: the best gift isn't something tangible. In Kimberly, Slaven's continued

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Speaker 1: efforts to remain sober after a moment of introspection reminds

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Speaker 1: us that we can all change our path in life,

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Speaker 1: and today that moral reminds us of what makes America wonderful.

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Speaker 1: You know your worst day can become the catalyst for

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Speaker 1: your best day. That's the moral of today's story. What

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Speaker 1: is your favorite Christmas tradition?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 1: That's the question today? What is your favorite Christmas tradition? Well,

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Speaker 1: for Sam Fooles third festive outdoor holiday illumination displays, it's

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Speaker 1: interesting to drive around the neighborhoods and see who the

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Speaker 1: grinches are. In all seriousness, how can you not celebrate

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Speaker 1: the day God sent his only son to save same

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Speaker 1: end of that, Scott King decorating the yard an eggnog.

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Speaker 3: I'm an egnacaholic.

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Speaker 1: Well, you might want to see a twelve step program

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Speaker 1: about eggnog. Remember, Scott, you could be powerless over eggnog,

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Speaker 1: Keep them on. Kate zagat By, how do you and

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Speaker 1: I watch Albert Finney's Scrooge Johnny Christmas Eve Night?

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great movie. I do. It's a

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Speaker 3: great movie, no question.

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Speaker 1: Mark Connor writes nothing more important than being with family

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Speaker 1: and loved ones. Family and loved ones. Elizabeth Smith Millers

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Speaker 1: takes this baking cookies, making bourbon balls. What are bourbon balls?

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Speaker 1: Decorating the house to be what are bourbon balls? Anybody

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Speaker 1: I must know more? Can we get our research, our

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Speaker 1: crack research team on that, please? Mickey Snyder R' spending

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Speaker 1: the day with friends and sharing a great meal and gifts.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the great gift is sharing the day with friends

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Speaker 1: and family and a great meal.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's it.

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Speaker 1: Cal Ratamaker writes this Christmas Eve Mass, that's so important

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Speaker 1: to so many people, Carol, thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: John Hogan shares being with family, honoring the King of Kings. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's part.

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Speaker 1: Eric Parvis has this families being reunited, one departed, the

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Speaker 1: illegal alien at a time. Well, Eric, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: that's the spirit of the season, but there you go.

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Speaker 1: For me, it is family, spending time with people you

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Speaker 1: care about eating too much food and gaining twelve pounds.

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Speaker 1: Those are the Christmas traditions I care about for sure.

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Speaker 1: I also really like giving things to people. They go, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's really cool. My daughter's really good at it. She

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Speaker 1: picks the best gifts. For example, see this gift right here,

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Speaker 1: part of the Berlin Wall she gave me for my birthday.

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Speaker 1: It's still one of the most remarkable gifts I ever got.

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Speaker 1: Cool and you know, giving something to people as they remember,

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Speaker 1: and giving of yourself.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this just a short time ago.

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Speaker 1: There are people out there in need and giving your

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Speaker 1: time to people that need you most this time the year.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they just need to talk to somebody, Maybe they

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Speaker 1: need a hot meal, a pat on the back of prayer.

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Speaker 1: That's what's most important this time you're and all year round,

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Speaker 1: as we heard, because there are people out there right

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Speaker 1: now that just need to know somebody cares. Maybe it's you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can change somebody's life today. That's the season

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Speaker 1: of giving. That's a family and holiday tradition. I can

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Speaker 1: get behind and say, hey, it's a pretty great country

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Speaker 1: we live in, so go ahead and help people out

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Speaker 1: whatever you can. I appreciate you being here today. As always,

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00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: we all care about you and we appreciate you being

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Speaker 1: part of the Rev Family. Don't forget to go to

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Speaker 1: Steve Guru dot com, send me an email, tell me

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Speaker 1: about your holidays and how it was in your neck

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Speaker 1: of the woods. All right, Merry Christmas everyone from all

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