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Speaker 2: Guard? Okay cooking guard? What got her home? You know

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Speaker 2: every action came win to reaction.

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Speaker 3: Tell me this how you got to get packed?

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Speaker 2: I said, I was doing what the dreaming that relaxing

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Speaker 4: We canna no about to sit there.

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Speaker 5: With Repack taking all the for.

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Speaker 6: This and that where you're fucking ship off with all

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Speaker 2: The chance she catch your feelings and my fun though,

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Speaker 2: that's why she might have a chance.

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Speaker 3: She can cross me out my trust some problem.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know that.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a chance to bomb ain't land.

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Speaker 4: I got my finger across my that she gotta have

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Speaker 3: I gotta turn out that she gotta have it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: how many people and your niggas out here with the

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Speaker 3: sugar hate. He is out here doing the whole lot

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Speaker 3: around on with some hitters out of b I want

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Speaker 3: some hits day.

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Speaker 2: Go with your move and get burnt like a cream.

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Speaker 7: Turn out, My man, Why ain't gonna strap out?

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Speaker 3: Where I look into another episode of Jiggins and Jones.

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Speaker 8: We have some guests here, another person named John and

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Speaker 8: another person named Tyler, So it might get.

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Speaker 3: Really fucked up out here, all right, really confusing. So

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Speaker 3: I guess John introduced yourself. You were here, You're on

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Speaker 3: the pot before.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, you know I've been on the

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Speaker 2: podcast before. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You feeling comfortable now, you know? You know what?

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Speaker 1: So so now that I got that, you know that, uh,

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Speaker 1: that first one out the way, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I got my second win, and I'm ready to really

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Speaker 1: get into your niggas.

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Speaker 3: You're about to talk about, coach.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, y'all talk y'all got my favorite topic is

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Speaker 1: basketball Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to get him to get niggas. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, John Scarlett, you know what I'm saying. Follow

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Speaker 1: me at Johnson on Twitter. Get out the cloud clown clown.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, So Tyler, you should have been on

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Speaker 3: this motherfucker. Tyler, I am you know what I mean here, man,

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Speaker 3: Glad to have you, I guess you could introduce yourself

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Speaker 3: to the four and a half people that don't know

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Speaker 3: who the fuck you are.

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Speaker 5: My Internet alias is Tyler. I am first time podcast

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Speaker 5: here on our long time listener, happy to be here,

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Speaker 5: happy to lander Kobe.

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Speaker 3: That all right, we're gonna start off with who is

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Speaker 3: the better basketball player?

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Speaker 2: Hardener Westbrook.

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Speaker 8: I was having this conversation this morning, and we were saying, like,

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Speaker 8: first off, like, do you think Harden becomes hardened if

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Speaker 3: Okay? See nope, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah yeah, yeah, so

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Speaker 3: he would have been the third wheel for sure, right,

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Speaker 3: third option. Will say that if he was staying, if

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Speaker 3: he would saying okay, see right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think that I think the interesting thing

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Speaker 2: If any of those skills would have developed if he

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Speaker 2: had stayed. O. I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: I think he would have been a straight up like

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, because you know, like there's a

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Speaker 1: So like you keep doing, maybe Harden just becomes a

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Speaker 2: If he stays an Okay, see, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: That's a lot different from eventually MVV probably exactly and

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Speaker 8: you know, contend MVP contender like the last three years.

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Speaker 8: So we agree that he wouldn't been the same player,

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Speaker 8: right so now in retrover and it's just crazy.

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Speaker 3: You know, they shouldn'ty should't have traded theim motherucker. Of

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Speaker 8: Or like, they didn't didn't give him the money you wanted,

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Speaker 8: Harden is the better than the other two or other

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Speaker 8: better than Westbrook or KD. I don't think KDE obviously,

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Speaker 3: What do y'all think? Yeah, I think I mean, I'm

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Speaker 5: You gotta be more specific, Okay, I was.

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Speaker 3: Playing, Yeah, So yeah, whichever one doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: I think Hard is better. I think The interesting thing

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Speaker 5: hard to take that leap. Then when Russ is out,

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Speaker 5: you got all three of them like full strength. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: right now, I think I take Harden. He better shoot her,

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Speaker 5: But but they're both good passes. Neither really much on defense,

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Speaker 8: I think I think I think I'll give Russ the

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Speaker 8: not on d slightly. Harden doesn't try on defense.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Russ Russell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he like over pursues. He's

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Speaker 3: If anything, Harden just doesn't try. I do think Hard

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Speaker 3: I think Hard is a better passed I think Hard

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Russell passing Russell passon is a little deceptive because

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Speaker 1: See like how impressive part the playmaking is because you

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Speaker 2: That's really impressive to me.

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Speaker 3: I think like Westbrook, you can even like with Westbrook,

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Speaker 3: you can ball watch. You can sit and just watch

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Speaker 3: then just you know, force a shot up or ship

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Speaker 8: Everybody has to have their hands up at all times,

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Speaker 8: hands up at all times, ready to shoot, because Harden

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Speaker 8: finds everybody. He reminds me of Broun in that way,

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Speaker 8: where like you always got to be ready to shoot

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Speaker 3: You know, he's always looking to drop it off too

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Speaker 3: and get to get a better shot.

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Speaker 2: It seems like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like that, so when he passes, he expects something to

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Speaker 5: Hard and well yeah you know yeah, Now he don't

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Speaker 3: Kind of like Rondo where he's his sister even selfish,

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, he wanted that, you want

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Speaker 3: plays strong in the West, bro, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: You said what I was just saying, I like going forward.

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Speaker 5: I think Harden's game going to age much better than

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Speaker 7: I mean the thing with what's that explosive?

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Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, terrified because he was because that's what he

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Speaker 2: He relies on hard loss. Harden plays low to the ground.

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Speaker 2: It's step back.

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Speaker 8: It looks like he just slight me right right, I

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Speaker 8: mean the dude his step back. Dude, it's like he

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Speaker 3: You know, it's and it's his fucking step back, I do.

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Speaker 3: He created different variations of the step back, like I'd

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Speaker 3: never seen variations of that step back until like not.

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Speaker 8: Everybody's getting stupid creative with it. Like I wish we

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Speaker 8: that ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thing I like about heart and is he takes from

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Speaker 1: European players, Yeah you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he took dirt.

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Speaker 1: He took the dirt little one foot step back and

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Speaker 1: he does like yeah, yeah, he tak he took Geno's

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Speaker 3: He was one of the first to adopt the euro

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Speaker 3: you know, Genobai when he know who originated, you know,

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Speaker 3: but so do we so do we do we all

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Speaker 3: agree to Harder is a better player?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: He was saying that he thought West was a better player,

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Speaker 8: But then he said he brought up the point he said,

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Speaker 3: That Thunder team. The best player on that Thunder team

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Speaker 8: The finals in the West. I mean the finals, but

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Speaker 2: Done that.

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Speaker 3: With that team was destructed?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it did nothing. I think he could

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Speaker 5: have got him there because you like, with this coach now,

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Speaker 5: I think I think D'Antoni deserves a lot of credit here, man, Like, like,

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Speaker 5: he caught a really really bad rap in New York, Like,

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Speaker 5: because you know, Mellow is so against everything that D'Antoni

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I could.

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Speaker 4: Mellow right and Melo went out for five weeks and

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Speaker 7: Bro like this cover up time.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, man, I just I just don't

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Speaker 8: like we've seen We've seen hard and when shiit gets

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Speaker 3: A lot of times in the playoffs, shit get is

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Speaker 3: it's a playoffs. Maybe maybe in the regular season he

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Speaker 1: I'm tell you right now, Dan Tony deserves a lot

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, I've never believed.

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Speaker 1: The hype on the D'Antoni team, especially when it comes

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Speaker 1: Harden got there before. When D'Antoni got there, he told Harden,

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Speaker 2: And Harden laughed at it, like, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: was like, nah, man, you're gonna run the offense.

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Speaker 3: And he did. He turn Hard into maybe even of

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Speaker 3: the best point guards in the league. I mean Westbrook,

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Speaker 3: I mean the thunder. Westbrook did it with playing under

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Speaker 3: I don't see Harden doing that. I don't see many

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Speaker 8: I don't see fucking Harden caring when they're down twenty

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Speaker 8: it's like, damn, like this is what I got to

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't. I don't see Hardened caring enough to

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Speaker 3: I think what brought them. I mean it was also athleticism,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if that, you know, would make

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Speaker 2: But people always do that.

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Speaker 1: People always say, you know, it's the it's certain people's mentality.

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Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't, like, I don't like when

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Speaker 3: What do we what is that? What is that equal? Like?

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Speaker 3: What is that equal to? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like where we put that on the stat sheet? My nigga,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like where we put intangibles

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Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I think I think Hard is

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Speaker 8: But I also think Westbrook has done things with like

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Speaker 8: that that Harden couldn't do.

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Speaker 2: So it's weird you.

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Speaker 5: Think Westbrook on this Rockets team right now would have

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he I don't think either. I

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Speaker 3: I think would hurt them, especially with UH with CP three.

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Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, he's not enough balls, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying. Like they both you know, they like

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Speaker 3: Chris Paul. I love as a point guard. It's one

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Speaker 8: As far as like how he plays. I dig him

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Speaker 3: I mean I love I've enjoyed watching him play, even

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Speaker 3: he dribbles the ball so fucking much. And I never

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Speaker 2: Like he just he over dribbles, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 8: Like and and and the fact that the hard I

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Speaker 3: Harden, as much as he has the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 3: I feel like he's extremely efficient, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: He I mean, I mean, Harden was really turnover prone

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Speaker 1: I think that like the way that they're playing, that

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Speaker 1: they don't play a whole lot of time at the

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Speaker 1: they'll start the game, they'll play for about you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Paul's going to the Hall and Harden if he's

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Speaker 1: one Hall of Fame point guard. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I think they both just bought into that. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not him and Russell.

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: So that's a like playing forty eight. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 3: That's gonna hurt him long term too. Like you were saying,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Man like explosive as he is.

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Speaker 8: The way he plays. You know who who scares me?

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Speaker 8: The dude that's going to do the number two player

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Speaker 8: in high school right now? Uh, Zion Willimason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Zion scares me. Bro. I feel like the

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Speaker 3: to he'll make it to the league for the knees

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Speaker 3: He dunks everything, which is fun to see and it's

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's like, bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: You you still got them human kneeds unless you got that.

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Speaker 8: And what's that anty animal? Whatever fucking bronze shooting up?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Like whatever that ship is, Yeah, that Whooperine ship. I mean,

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Speaker 8: dog your he's gonna break down. But like I have

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Speaker 8: those worries about Zion. It's like, you know, lay the

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Speaker 8: ball up a few times, bro, fuck the fuck the.

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Speaker 3: Highlight, you know what I mean. Play a couple more years,

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, yeah, so I guess we say we're

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Speaker 5: West I think it's karma. Oklahoma City got stuck with

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Speaker 5: the worst one of the three. Like for them being cheap,

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Speaker 5: you think you damn that's Crazy's not like either one.

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Speaker 5: I'm better than KD. Like KD is a cut above

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Speaker 5: I think, And yeah, I think Harden over Westbrook. So

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Speaker 5: he the worst one again, still an MVP, He's still

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think if we're talking about KD,

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Speaker 3: I saw, I mean, I don't even. I can't put

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Speaker 3: God said, y'all want a fucking basketball player. Here you go.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: I got something for that ass. You feel me, y'all.

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Speaker 8: This what y'all wanted. Y'all wanted a monster. I got

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Speaker 8: something that's just completely not fair, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know you're talking about the tangibles. He is the

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Speaker 1: best basketball player I've ever seen that doesn't have thoseibles.

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Speaker 3: Like what you're talking about, like just toughness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he's he don't got that.

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Speaker 5: He ain't charisma, no waves, no brush, nothing.

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Speaker 3: No no save butter for the hair and my nigga ship,

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Speaker 3: none of that, right, none of that, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. But the nigga got a goddamn Jimmy and

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Speaker 3: that solid, you know what I mean. And I would say,

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Speaker 7: I said, that motherfucker get forty three points off nine shots.

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Speaker 5: You can't right right now? He blocks six shots a game, man, Like,

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Speaker 5: what do you do with that?

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Speaker 3: But Nigga, that Nigga's supposed to have been blocking just shots, man,

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Speaker 3: Come on, this motherfucker just decided right this can touch

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Speaker 3: this Thigga can touch each side of this room with

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He's supposed to have been getting them blocks.

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Speaker 8: Now he just give a fuck, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 8: Like he's bored and talking about the Warriors being bored.

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Speaker 3: Look at that segue, Nigga, his motherfuckers are coaching themselves.

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Speaker 2: Now, did you see that?

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Speaker 3: Did you see that ship?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, like Curlin, Iggy West and Draymond draw up

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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody on that team is pretty much fucking

436
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,720
Speaker 4: a smart basketball player, except like Swaggy.

437
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,200
Speaker 3: Dude, Swaggy is. Swaggy's been worse than I thought Swaggy

438
00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,960
Speaker 3: would be. He started off really good, but like I

439
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 3: haven't seen him in I mean, I haven't watched the

440
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,520
Speaker 3: whole bunch of Wars games.

441
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,200
Speaker 1: When I do it he just catch the ball and

442
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 1: let that bitch go. I mean, but you know, he

443
00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399
Speaker 1: a value shooter. He just doesn't get the value shots

444
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,280
Speaker 1: no more, you know what I mean. Like, you can't

445
00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:44,879
Speaker 1: expect Swaggy to be Swaggy off of.

446
00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 2: Like eight shots a game. That's just Swiggy.

447
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 3: Swaggy needs to be swa gonna get more than that

448
00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,360
Speaker 3: coming off the bench and you're playing with fucking four

449
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 3: All stars.

450
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 2: Has never been here, bro, That's never been true Hall

451
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:57,120
Speaker 2: of Famers.

452
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I thought he was gonna be a little

453
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,479
Speaker 8: better cause he's playing against second team too.

454
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,159
Speaker 3: You know, he's not playing against the starters coming off

455
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 3: the bench, you know what I mean.

456
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, yeah, that's just crazy that that

457
00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,040
Speaker 1: that Kurr let him do that. I mean, like Steve

458
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,359
Speaker 1: Kerr is just pulling like coach Bombay moves, you know

459
00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he out here like he like

460
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,880
Speaker 1: he like he coaching the Ducks against you. I want

461
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: you all to believe in yourselves and just go out

462
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,400
Speaker 1: there and get it done.

463
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,239
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, how bored do you? How bored does

464
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,680
Speaker 3: one have to be to be that creator? Like you

465
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 3: have to get extremely bored to be like, well, I'm

466
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,240
Speaker 3: gonna do something that I've never ever seen anybody ever

467
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 3: do before because it's just too fucking like, let me

468
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: do something to stir it up, because like it's just

469
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 3: too easy. And they still I mean it's the Phoenix Suns,

470
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 3: but they're an NBA team. They forty balled them with

471
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 3: the coaches just you know, take on vacation, I.

472
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 5: Mean, call drawn up plays and just bombed on right.

473
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: Dog is just insane.

474
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,200
Speaker 1: Man, yeah, man, that team, that team just having fun

475
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: right now, like they just know, they just know. I look,

476
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,680
Speaker 1: ain't nobody fucking least the next three or four like

477
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 1: we just having fun right now.

478
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 3: As good as Houston is, they're still just trying whatever.

479
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 8: Like I mean, I think like they're no there's there's

480
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 8: no fear when a nigga's doing that any.

481
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: Other time in NBA history besides right now with this team.

482
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 1: If a team like the Houston Rockets will be a

483
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 1: real threat.

484
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 3: Oh that is a threat. They might be the favorite.

485
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 1: And as good as they are, I don't think they

486
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 1: can touch the Warriors. That's crazy.

487
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm lying to myself, guys, as we talked before, I'm

488
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: lying to myself. I'm gonna tell myself that Hardness is

489
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 3: gonna ship the bed. Don't I'm your conscience. I'm your conscience.

490
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 3: Don't do it. No, But as good as as good

491
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 3: as as the Warriors are, I just I need something

492
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 3: to believe in. And I'm thinking that hard is not

493
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 3: gonna shoo the bed, and he's gonna play solid enough

494
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 3: for them to get some, for them to get, you know,

495
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: make it, make it close at.

496
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 5: Least, yea respectable six.

497
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: I mean, if they if they take it the sick.

498
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 2: I think it's a gentleman. Sweet you think you think

499
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 2: it's a five one in Houston just off of.

500
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: Some just pure Chris Paul hero ball hard and putting

501
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: up forty five fifty points, you know what I mean.

502
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: I think they might get one in Houston.

503
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: Another one will come really close in overtime game, but

504
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: the words will put it out.

505
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's out in five Western

506
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 2: Conference finals. It will be. It's gonna be a boring

507
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: playoff until the finals.

508
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean, who's who's not gonna be boring?

509
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: The finals? Ain't gonna be interested in?

510
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, let's talk about the cast little bit.

511
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: Y'all saw them play right, Yeah, I ain't nothing to

512
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: talk about Tyler, Dragonfly Joe.

513
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 7: I mean ship, man.

514
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 4: I mean, they are a better team than they were

515
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 4: before the trades, which is they were actually fun.

516
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 7: That's in depth analysis there. But it's still not gonna

517
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 7: be enough.

518
00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 4: Man, it'll be enough to win the East, but Ship,

519
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: I don't even think this team can take god to

520
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 4: State to six.

521
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 7: Maybe they could maybe six.

522
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 5: But I think there's a gentleman sweet yeah, yeah.

523
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 9: That's a fiver, right, yeah, yeah, I mean, dude, with

524
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 9: with fucking Kyrie doing Kyrie things last year, they had

525
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 9: to break records to get to win one, you.

526
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

527
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 8: So like, I don't think Casson got a chance, you

528
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 8: know what I mean? I mean, And they got all

529
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 8: these young bucks that never even like.

530
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: Them have been in the playoffs. I ain't even seen

531
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 3: that pressure, you know what I mean. I love Clarkson's jumper.

532
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: As I tweeted, I said, you know, I said, if

533
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 3: that motherfuckers jumper had titties, my leody be in trouble. Man,

534
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: I ump that motherfucker what as a bitch. You know,

535
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: we had some good sex, you know what I mean?

536
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, like, but but once that pressure.

537
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 3: Hit that motherfucker, you know, fourth quarter.

538
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, playoff time, niggas, you're playing

539
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 8: better competition, you know, playing tougher, that motherfucker might start

540
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 8: shortballing a couple.

541
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: Of them Jimmy's you know what I mean. So I

542
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: don't know, man.

543
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: You know Hood who was in the playoffs last year.

544
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 5: Right, like a Hood?

545
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the jazz, with the jazz, Yeah, yeah, Saw,

546
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, but I don't know, man,

547
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: I don't really see. I mean, Rodney, Rodney and Jordan

548
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 3: looked really good. They look solid as fun, and I

549
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 3: think they'll I think they'll win the East, But I

550
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: think they have no fucking chanty the words if they

551
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: got swept, if they didn't get sweept, sweep, they didn't

552
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: get sweept, they didn't get swept. Out to be surprised. Bro.

553
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 5: Darren Williams was playing in the final for the Cavs

554
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 5: last year. Clarkson, gotta be better. If you don't hit

555
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 5: a shot, you know what.

556
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 3: It's so weird. I forgot Darren Williams ever existed, brog

557
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 3: It was a real debate on who was better, C

558
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: three or Darren Williams.

559
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no question.

560
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: I mean that kind of reminds me of a Kobe

561
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: uh Kobe, But yeah, I remember. But what was crazy

562
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: about Williams is I didn't even know. I didn't think

563
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: he's gonna be as good as he was because he

564
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: wasn't the best player on his team in Illinois. It

565
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: was that little ass black nigga man with the braid

566
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: was you said what you Yeah, but he just didn't

567
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: have the size. You feel me, he wasn't gonna be

568
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 3: anything in the league. I didn't know that. But d

569
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: Brown was the number one guy on that squad. Yeah,

570
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 3: so I was surprised.

571
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 8: But Darren, but I mean when he fucking came to

572
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 8: the league, it was chopping. I mean, I mean he

573
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 8: was the truth. But yeah, like I said, I still forgot.

574
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 8: That's that's how life is.

575
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: Like he tried so hard. I still forgot it existed,

576
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: he said.

577
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: And Kobe the baym got injured, right, just went off

578
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: into obecurity, bro like I mean like he he no,

579
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: his body was falling apart.

580
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: CD still playing and I mean, dude, dron was playing

581
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 3: like garbage minutes for the for the fucking cash.

582
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 2: He got straight into Brooklyn and then all of a sudden,

583
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: he just didn't exist.

584
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 5: I mean, he also think he got that big ass

585
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 5: check and niggas just started hanging with Joe Johnson bro

586
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 5: and just gave up.

587
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 3: Hey man. Tyler was talking about how Joe Johnson had

588
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: the like the best career in NBA history ever.

589
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: He's He's played in Atlanta, Miami, fucking Houston, New York

590
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: and nobody ever gets.

591
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,239
Speaker 7: The most criticism he's ever caught is he has too

592
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 7: much money.

593
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 4: Like that's the worst thing, no one, no one ever says,

594
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: how why are you paying him and not going anywhere?

595
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: They're like, why does this dude have so much money?

596
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: That's that's the problem I would have. I would have

597
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 4: problems like that.

598
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 8: Oh man, That's that's the only problem that I would

599
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 8: give a fuck about, you know what I like. But

600
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 8: that's true though, and he never catches any heat, you

601
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 8: know what I mean?

602
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 1: And people because people are still willing to sign him,

603
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: Like if you're still willing to sign him, like.

604
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 7: Like what can you say?

605
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 3: No, what I'm saying, as many times we've seen him

606
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: just not give a fuck. Nobody's gave a fuck that

607
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,199
Speaker 3: he was at one point he was dude, I mean

608
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: what was this specially, I don't know. It might it

609
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: might have been the Yeah, it might have been to

610
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: Steve Nash Year.

611
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Phoenix Year. That might have been because even in Atlanta.

612
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: He was he was good ball, he was I mean

613
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 5: when he was he was nice, and Atlanta just nobody

614
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: cared like he even had that figured out, Like i'mna

615
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 5: be nice as hell down there. Nobody cares when forty

616
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 5: two games, I have my summers all.

617
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: Its perfect, I'm an averaging cool twenty six at night.

618
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody will give in the city with the most

619
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: beautiful women on earth, you know what I mean? It's

620
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: who's he playing with in Atlanta those years.

621
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: Crowds down there, Josh Smith, Josh Smith or they had.

622
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: A little what they should at least made the playoffs,

623
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: did okay a couple of times forty forty some wins?

624
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, remember.

625
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: You get the playoffs. You can trip and fall into

626
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: the playoffs accidentally. You can get an eighth seed with

627
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: about thirty eight wins.

628
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: Right, Joe got seven All Star Games. If he funk

629
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 5: around and get like a ring like it's a bench

630
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 5: piece of somebody, it's gonna be Hall of Fame. Joe.

631
00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 3: You think so.

632
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too.

633
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 5: Anybody in the NBA Hall of Fame, NBAT.

634
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: Different, bro, they let anybody in first battle.

635
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 10: Joe Johnson was cold for a little minute though, and

636
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 10: it's I mean, I mean he didn't miss when he

637
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 10: was playing with Steve, but I mean he was getting

638
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 10: all open shots, like you know, he didn't have to

639
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 10: like create too much.

640
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: I mean Steve was doing all to create, dribbling under.

641
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: His legs and up under motherfuckers, And man, I miss

642
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: Steve Nash type of ship man.

643
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 5: But how about like Nash won them two m vps

644
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 5: with like twelve points and eleven assists of the game.

645
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 5: Now Harden's like doubling them ships. That's just why, Like.

646
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 7: That was like that runner up.

647
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody ever seen this before. And Harden was like,

648
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 5: I'll give you thirty nigga, like go win.

649
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: The scoring title and be the leader of assists, Like

650
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: how do you do that? How do you?

651
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: How do you win the scoring title and lead the

652
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: league in assists? I don't know who has anybody done

653
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: that before? Maybe like Oscar Rominson. It's like the only

654
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: nigga that's ever did that.

655
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Speaker 8: Problem shit, I don't know, but I mean at that time,

656
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 8: we couldn't say that anybody was more important to the

657
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 8: team and Steve Nash and they were winning.

658
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 5: Now they were for It's just funny, like imagine like

659
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 5: with what Yanna is doing now and bron Hard and

660
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: well Westbrook, Durrant, Steph. Imagine a nigga with eleven points

661
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 5: and tennis on the m v P.

662
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Speaker 2: This okay, Steve, Steve Nash is only what a decade ago?

663
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: That's when he was killing, right, Yeah, you think that

664
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 3: long ago.

665
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: Do you think Steve Nash is Steve Nash now in

666
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: this league?

667
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 3: Do you think we give a.

668
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: Right now? He's a solid, He's a solid off the bench,

669
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: point guard. He's not I think he's a starter, but

670
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: he's not the m v P by any means.

671
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he can be.

672
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Speaker 4: I think, I think and and again it goes back

673
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: to D'Antoni man, Like, if you get D'Antoni peat Steve

674
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: Nash in this climent, I think he would still be

675
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 4: the same Steve Nash. Like, like you know, in NBA

676
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: history isn't so linear where you can really just go

677
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: back and say, well this this changed everything, but you

678
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: kind of can do it with with d'antoni's Phoenix Sons,

679
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 4: like like that they were the team years ago that

680
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: made the NBA into what it is today.

681
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, like just pinpointed hated that team.

682
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Bro, Well, I love they were so fun to watch.

683
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so the same reason niggas would hate the Warriors,

684
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: but like watching them play, Like they're fun to watch

685
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: play watch.

686
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: I used to play with him with two K, but

687
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: you hated it when y'all had to play. And you

688
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: know I took that back agains Steve. You know, I

689
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: forgot about him. He's like he's like the only player

690
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: in NBA history to to like average, like like what

691
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: was it likerom the field forty ninety like his whole career, right,

692
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: He's like the only player to.

693
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: Ever do that.

694
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 5: Right, he was just taking six shots of game though.

695
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 5: DJ McConnell.

696
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: Now, And what do y'all think about the Blazers? What

697
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: the fuck are they gonna do? Bro?

698
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 7: Nothing?

699
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: They got talent? I mean, I mean, because I think

700
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Speaker 2: the thing with c J and the Dame is that

701
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: they're both.

702
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: Good at the same.

703
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 5: So, like, I just think that your trade, Dame, you

704
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 5: think over Jason, I think you could you would get

705
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 5: more for Dame, and if you slide column into that

706
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: league guard, I think he give you what like eighty

707
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: five percent of dames numbers.

708
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: But I think Dame is just such a dog though.

709
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 8: Bros nice as hell, they both are, and he got

710
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 8: I think we talk about the tangibles, you know.

711
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, the killer he got. He's

712
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: a killer, bro. He don't give a fuck about you.

713
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 3: He's not nice, He's he's a he's a mean basketball player.

714
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: I think eventually Dame's gonna want the league because because

715
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: the same reason I think Dame really wants to win, right,

716
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: So I think he's a basically in the league, and

717
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: you know, he want to start his rap career ship

718
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: he needs to be in a bigger market anyway.

719
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.

720
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Speaker 1: Dames eventually gonna leave. And I think that Tyler's right.

721
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: I think that you get more by trading Dame and

722
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: building around C. J. McCullen, and you could basically still

723
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: be around the eighth seven seed that you already are.

724
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, anybody an no free agents coming

725
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: to Portland, so it's like you're gonna be that anyway. Way.

726
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: So I think, like, yeah, you're right.

727
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: I think you know, last year Dame's contract, you probably

728
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: trade him away to another.

729
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: Team to get market because he's probably coming back. Exactly

730
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: this is there's.

731
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Only how many players have trade calls? Does he have

732
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: a trade clause? I don't know.

733
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 5: I don't know what contract was, Like I heard it's

734
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 5: just Braun.

735
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 3: I think the only two players have a trade clause. Yeah,

736
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: so they can get rid of his as they wanted to. Damn.

737
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Speaker 5: I understanding you could get like a haul for him,

738
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 5: put that around and call him and be back in

739
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: the mix.

740
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

741
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Speaker 3: Who's that big man? Everybody? That's his name, the big

742
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: man they have?

743
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what do you think about?

744
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: What do you think about him? He come along? People

745
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: always people bring up like yo, he got nugga.

746
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 8: No man, I mean, he's solid, but he ain't gonna

747
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 8: all thing's gonna change your fucking team, especially not in

748
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 8: the West.

749
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: He coming along, man, I mean I think that like

750
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: obviously it takes some European players and some foreign players

751
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: about longer to develop, you know what I mean?

752
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: Like people saying like for Zingis was whacked you know

753
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: last year.

754
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm just way not at all. But

755
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 3: I mean I don't think he's like somebody like I'm

756
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: gonna mention not at all, right, saw getting hurt?

757
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: Bro that broke my heart.

758
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm not even a Knicks fan, and that's hurt.

759
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: Why do people why why does everybody like man have

760
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: the worst love?

761
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 3: But I mean I think also it's it's more than

762
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: the Knicks.

763
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: I like for Zingers. I like him, you know what

764
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean, like because he's beginning in the DMS like regularly.

765
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 3: He do what you would do if he was Richard,

766
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: right right, you don't know nobody.

767
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: He's not supposed to do that yet.

768
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: Right right, what you saying, Tyler, just chant one of us,

769
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 5: one of us, right right, right, right right?

770
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, this is the kid who grew

771
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: up with corn Rows standing for g unit and he

772
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: pulls Instagram models like he is totally me if I

773
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: was in that in his situation, right.

774
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's impossible on the roof for man. I hate

775
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: to see my man go down like that. All right,

776
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: So I guess we're getting to the Kobe conversation. I

777
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: want to ask out one thing, trying to try to

778
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: hold it all. We'll go ahead, all right, let me

779
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: let me be asked you one more question.

780
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: You know, I would have known. I want to know

781
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: what I thought about rayl and not showing up Paul

782
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Uh like golf. Didn't you want to play.

783
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 5: Golf and put it on the ground like George Lopez?

784
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 7: George, Yeah, Well, well the motherfuckers don't like ray Man.

785
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

786
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: I feel like if the Ray left, they didn't funk

787
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: with him right or was it? Was it shit going

788
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: on pride?

789
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was just like KG and uh and

790
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: uh Rondo that didn't I thought Paul was cool with him,

791
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: because I know I've seen Paul on one of them

792
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: ABC halftime shows like talking about it, saying like, yeah,

793
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, I got no problem with Ray. You know

794
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like I want him to to come

795
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: be back apart of like the Boston certain Where's Ray

796
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: gonna sit though?

797
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 8: Is he gonna go sit in like the seventeenth rowing

798
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 8: look awkward because he doesn't want to be around Rondo

799
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 8: and KG Bo. He's gonna sit beside him and be

800
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 8: awkward and be like, well, I wouldn't funk that he's rich.

801
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm not.

802
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm too rich to pretend at that point, you know, I.

803
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: Send you a text, how let me afterwards we'll get

804
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: up later on when I'm in your city.

805
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, I'm not gonna.

806
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go and pretend and

807
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 3: like act like ship's all cool, you know what I'm saying.

808
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: When KG really dislikes me, you.

809
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: Know what I mean?

810
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, al though, it's like it's almost like something.

811
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: It's almost like not showing up to your boy wedding

812
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: just because like one of the other grooms men, you

813
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: don't really fuck with like that, I mean, you're not

814
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you don't still show up.

815
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess that's that's a pretty decent.

816
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 5: You can't post the Instagram ship during the game. That's

817
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 5: what made it.

818
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: Like, Nah, nigga, I'm over here, gee, you know what

819
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, that's kind of fucked up.

820
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: I just kind of fucked up.

821
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just I'm a fan of rich

822
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: people doing what the fuck they they want to do,

823
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 3: because I always see rich people and it seems like

824
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: they're like, like when I see rich people doing things

825
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: they don't want to do, I'm like, why the fuck

826
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 3: are you rich? Like the awesome part of being rich

827
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 3: is the freedom, bitch. You know what I'm saying, let

828
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 3: me get rich. I mean, it's it's gonna be impossible

829
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: to give me to lead the house probably, you know

830
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: what I mean.

831
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 8: I'm not doing a motherfucking thing that I want to

832
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 8: unless you, like my mom or like a loved one,

833
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 8: you know what i mean, Like unless some random motherfucker

834
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 8: called me up ask me.

835
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: Nah, I mean the best? Right? You crazy? You know

836
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So yeah, like that, you want me

837
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 3: to go over here, pretend like I give a fuck

838
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: about these things. I don't give a fuck with.

839
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm rich now, I don't have to do things I

840
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: don't want to. That's the point of being rich. So

841
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of cool.

842
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: I'm happy that he I'm campy that he didn't do it,

843
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, fuck it, you know what

844
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: i mean. Plus he hit that shot against us Spurs,

845
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: so he's in my good gracious forever. Yeah, so maybe

846
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: I'm biased, but anyway, yeah, man, but so are we are?

847
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 3: We jumping into the Kobe.

848
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

849
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: Hey, what's funny. One thing that's really funny is Paul

850
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: Pierce Day was just people flaming Paul Pierce and YouTube

851
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: Dragonfly Jones and Tyler. I am led the fucking charge

852
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: gets this motherfucker.

853
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 7: Man.

854
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: I even made a video about that ship and people

855
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: were hot, like poor Pierces a legend. You know what

856
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Yo, dispresponseil fuck that nigga, Manu. Everybody to

857
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: be a hundred you know what I mean? Anybody get

858
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: these motherfucking jokes. Man, But that was funny as hell. Man,

859
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: Like this nigga has retired, you know what I mean.

860
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: He's a terrible analyst. Now we don't worry about him

861
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: as a basketball player anymore. And y'all steal on his ass.

862
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

863
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: That's crazy as fun can't even have him, give him

864
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 3: one day of repri.

865
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: That's now he retired, Nigga, these jokes are eternal. I

866
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 5: just don't know what.

867
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: Persons thinking about, like making such a big deal about it,

868
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: like my nigga, like you like like he's just like

869
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: but Dramond said, like, Nigga, you ain't cold, ain't kody,

870
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: bro what I'm saying, You're not gonna get no like

871
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: like retired like farewell tour. Ain't nobody showing up for

872
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: you like that? Like I mean, Tim Duncan didn't even

873
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: get a Pharaell tour.

874
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: Tim Duncan didn't give a I think Tim d was

875
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: just like I mean, because Timmy could have gave us

876
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: not actually not he could have played no more. But uh,

877
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: I mean, dude, didn't he just like randomly just decide

878
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 3: to retire Like yeah, I like Tim Duncan, man, you

879
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: never hear dude, if you're rich, your famous, why would

880
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: you not be Tim Duncan, Bro, you know what I'm saying,

881
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 3: Like where like that's what you're doing? You sit in

882
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: something snail man like I quit, you know what I mean?

883
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 3: That shit it's written on the papers, not even typed.

884
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 3: Just right.

885
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: What does Tim Duncan's supposed to be a career look?

886
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: Like, dude, all he does is do m m a.

887
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 3: He just fights, He does kickboxing, trains and.

888
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 5: Did you hear they said he shows up like at

889
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: the Spurs facility like every day and like him kawhi

890
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 5: man whu and like a trainer just be like playing

891
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 5: two on two just random as hell, I swear to god,

892
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: I mean that's what it is.

893
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 2: Just mobast.

894
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 5: More and that's I think.

895
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: I think, dude, what type of human are you to

896
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 3: retire and stay in San Antonio, Bro, Like, those are

897
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: the cities where basketball players are Like, God, damn those due.

898
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: We gotta play the Spurs. We gotta be here in

899
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: San Antonio. Ain't no holes, you know what I mean.

900
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 3: We can't get out here and thug at all. You

901
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: feel me? Fucked this city. I can't wait to get

902
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: out of here. And this is where he decides to

903
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: like continue to like reside and live. He's a San

904
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: Antonio ass nigga.

905
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: He's from the virgin is something right from?

906
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 3: I thought it didn't for whatever reason because he played

907
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 3: Awake Force.

908
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: I was just imagine he was from from North Carolina.

909
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is the big city to him, right right,

910
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: right right bro?

911
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 3: Bro?

912
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: He was he He didn't even play basketball until like

913
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: a hurricane came through. He was a swimmer and the

914
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 4: hurricane came through and like fucked up his swimming pool

915
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 4: and he started playing basketball.

916
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Damn life, be helping people out and be fucking others. Old,

917
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 3: that's somebody that got helped out, you know what I mean.

918
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: That's crazy as hell. All right, man, let's jump into

919
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: this Kobe shit. Bro. Sorry, friend John here. He believes

920
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: that Kobe is the best basketball player to ever breathe,

921
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: to ever bounce a basketball, and everybody else on Earth

922
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: thinks he's full of ship, even Kobe, even.

923
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: Even if there's only one other nigga in the universe,

924
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: and will that believes that you know it's Kobe Bryant.

925
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: You know that for a fact.

926
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: But look downstairs, y'all always put me out here like

927
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: like like I didn't have a lot of caveats to

928
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 2: my argument.

929
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: You feel me like, y'all, he just diak Kobe the

930
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: best with the nigga said, So let's break it down. Look,

931
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: this this is how it started because and not just y'all,

932
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: but like every list I see because I was just watching.

933
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: Him on an undisputed uh Shannon is Skip.

934
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: They was talking about like they was ranking the best players,

935
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: and they they both had Kobe like at number nine

936
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: and number ten, and I'm like, yo, my whole thing is.

937
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: And this is why my argument always sounds crazy, because.

938
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: If most people said, you know, Kobe's like number two,

939
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: number three, you know what I mean, I would be like,

940
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: all right, cool, I respect that I told you all

941
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: last time.

942
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

943
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: If if your top three is MJ. Lebron and Kobe

944
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: in whatever order you got him in. I don't got

945
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: no argument with you because that's my top three. If

946
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: you got that same top three, I don't care who

947
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: you put first or who you put last.

948
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm good with you. But when you start saying Kobe.

949
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: Is number nine, maybe not in the top maybe not

950
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: even in the top ten, then we got problems.

951
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: Then we got issues.

952
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 5: Kobe a top three Laker, for sure, there's no.

953
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 3: He laughed, but cry.

954
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Well, Lakers got arguably like four or five of the

955
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: top players ever. So I mean I accept that it's.

956
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 5: Not a disk's no.

957
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean he's a top three Laker.

958
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: God damn.

959
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: So Kareem made Kobe, Yeah yeah, magic honestly, honestly, Like

960
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: in that perspective, the same way you're trying to rate

961
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: the best Lakers.

962
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,959
Speaker 2: I don't care. As long as you got Kareem Kobe magic,

963
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: I don't care how you how you put him.

964
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: So Kobe is the third best Laker, he could potentially

965
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: at least be the sixth best best player.

966
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying because you look in the league, like how

967
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: many of the top ten best players of all time

968
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: have put on the Laker uniform.

969
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: You got magic you got.

970
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: Kareem, Yeah, you got Will Yeah, yeah, you know what

971
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

972
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 2: You got Kobe. Yeah, you know what I mean.

973
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 3: Shack, Goddamn niggas, No niggas, forget niggas, forget Shock. Damn.

974
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: It's okay. Well it's so Kobe's better than Shack.

975
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeahbe's better than Shock.

976
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: Kobes a better basketball Laker, I would say yes. As

977
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: a player, I would say, now, better basketball was okay?

978
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: That year that that Shaq was? Was he forty and

979
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: twenty average?

980
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: Forty Orlando the year in Orlando? Or or No, he was,

981
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: he was a Laker.

982
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: I think his IVP season, I think he's scored, he

983
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: averaged the most as a Laker, and I think he

984
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: was like a thirty two games.

985
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about playoffs. There's one playoff series.

986
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: I think like a serio. Yeah, he had one playoff series.

987
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: I forgot what was forty and twenty or something else.

988
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 7: He gave Indiana thirty seven and sixteen and three blocks?

989
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, who the fuck is doing that?

990
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: Bro?

991
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 2: Nightmare?

992
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: Bro?

993
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: But I mean, like we've seen other dominant big max

994
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: like this niggas that this nigga that think that, say

995
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Elija is better than Shack.

996
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: So you know, no, I think I think when Elijah

997
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: Wan was great, he was better than Shaq during that

998
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: time period. I mean that was his peak though, and

999
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: Shaq was a young buck. He had Shaq on fucking

1000
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: skates check to know what the fuck he was, just

1001
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: like Elija one did everybody like that? I don't.

1002
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 5: Shaques still did numbers and Shack got his ass busted,

1003
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 5: but he was still throwing up numbers.

1004
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: And I think he would have dominated even more when

1005
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 3: Shaq was when Shack was at his peak, him mershed

1006
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: olaja one. I love Alija on. I think he's incredibly skilled.

1007
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: I think Shaq would have brutalized his ass on defense.

1008
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 3: What I mean, he was lifting people up and dunking

1009
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 3: on them in the air, like who the fuck? Who

1010
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: the fuck drags people in the air with them, you

1011
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. He's a fucking tank. And then

1012
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: he had great great he had great put work and

1013
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: he was super smart too, Like he was one of

1014
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: the best at like reposting where he would get get

1015
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: a double team, pass the ball out and repost repositioned

1016
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: himself or get deeper into the paint.

1017
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm saying, but after two thousand and

1018
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: two he was trash.

1019
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean he should have. I mean,

1020
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 3: his body is has said fuck you.

1021
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: He also didn't take care of me.

1022
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: He played with another year and he had a couple

1023
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 5: of years in Miami.

1024
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: The year, the year, the year, yeah, the year when

1025
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: Flash went when Flash one, Yeah that was Flash one

1026
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: and Flash when Shack was Yeah, Shaq was, Shack was Yeah,

1027
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: it was if. Yeah, Shaq was a he was he

1028
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: was a shell of himself. You know what I mean.

1029
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 3: He wasn't the same that's not the same dominant Shack.

1030
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 3: I don't think did he cold he did? He he

1031
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: went straight from the Lakers two? Did he he went

1032
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 3: somewhere else? The detour wasn't he.

1033
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Got traded to that was the That's how we got him.

1034
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: And oh yeah yeah.

1035
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm looking four oh five, Nash's MVP.

1036
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: Shack came in second that year and he was in Miami.

1037
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 5: So Shaq had a couple of nights years.

1038
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: I don't remember him being that dominant in Miami.

1039
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 5: Twenty three and ten two blocks on sixty percent shooting, Well,

1040
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 5: you know, damn, But you know what I'm saying.

1041
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: That's not twenty three and ten got him second in

1042
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: the MVP race.

1043
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 5: And second to Steve Nash's fifteen point eleven.

1044
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 3: The fun was going on, Bro.

1045
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 5: Three rebounds, Bro like R's and Westbrook laugh at those numbers.

1046
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: Right right?

1047
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 2: That was so good that twenty three and ten sounds

1048
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 2: kind of whacked.

1049
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1050
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when it comes to Shack, I think.

1051
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: This is this is what decides who you think are

1052
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 3: great players, right, Like the players that if there was

1053
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: a league about the league you would fuck with them,

1054
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,959
Speaker 3: they would be in that league.

1055
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 8: Is when they get under thirty points, you're like, it's

1056
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 8: an okay game. Yeah, you know what I mean, every

1057
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 8: player that I thought was great if they got like

1058
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 8: twenty eight, like BRONI gets twenty eight.

1059
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, it's not a great

1060
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: game or a good game, like for real unless he

1061
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 3: gets like thirty points to me, exactly, I mean.

1062
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: That scored like nineteen, and they're like, what's wrong with

1063
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 5: the team, dude?

1064
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 6: Ron?

1065
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: Bron scored twenty was it twenty four to twenty sixth

1066
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: last game? And you played two quarters? And I still

1067
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: was thinking, like he played like twenty to twenty four

1068
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: minutes and.

1069
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: You see the stat line and it's like under twenty

1070
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: five points, you kind of like, damn, what happened to

1071
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: him that game?

1072
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like that's that's how you know,

1073
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: like that person is at least supposed.

1074
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 3: To be like the upper for sure, for sure for sure.

1075
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: And I think Shaq is one of those players.

1076
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 3: So we think, like y'all think, y'all feel do y'all

1077
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: think think that when y'all see Giannis, y'all think like

1078
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: if you didn't get thirty, it's not a good game.

1079
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel like that way.

1080
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like he getting there.

1081
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: Getting there though, I'm excited to see what the fuck

1082
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 2: this dude does.

1083
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 3: Man, Like Giannis is a like it was like two

1084
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: years ago where I saw him basically pick the ball

1085
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 3: up like a dribble pass half court and then euro

1086
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: step and dunk it. And I'm like, this nigga just

1087
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: scored this covered basically forty feet forty forty five feet

1088
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: with like a dribble.

1089
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like he's so here's here's been that aliment

1090
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: to right now? Right? You got me a'll take I'm

1091
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: into it right now.

1092
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: As Chickens and Jones.

1093
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: As a right now.

1094
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Brian in my mind, is the best player I've ever seen,

1095
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: but one hundred percent believe that he will be surpassed

1096
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: by somebody who's playing in the league right now. Are Jannis,

1097
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Or maybe Lebron puts together

1098
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: some amazing second half of his career, you know what

1099
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, somewhere else, or even are still in Cleveland.

1100
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do think he will be

1101
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: surpassed by somebody who's playing right now. Now, I'll admit that.

1102
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: What makes you think he's the best player to ever play?

1103
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 5: Though?

1104
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: Why do you think the best player? Is?

1105
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 3: It?

1106
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: Is?

1107
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 3: It? Is it?

1108
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 2: I told you I used the eye test, right, So,

1109
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 2: like things.

1110
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: That aren't quantifiable, but.

1111
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: You also can't argue Kobe stats. Kobe stats are what

1112
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: they are, you know what I mean?

1113
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: Like like like he had, he has the rings he had,

1114
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: you know he has you know what I'm saying, Like

1115
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: most misshots, but the most puzis and the most innocense.

1116
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 3: Isn't arguably one of the best players, the best football

1117
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 3: player ever though.

1118
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 5: He's not even the best. Packers quarterback.

1119
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: Ben Rogers is a motherfucker.

1120
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying Rogers is the best quarterback

1121
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 2: quarterback I've ever seen. I mean, to me personally, I

1122
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: think it is. I feel like we just can't.

1123
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: It's just impossible to say that that Brady's not better

1124
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: baseball when Brady's done, but Brady's numbers. But I mean,

1125
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: the thing is also the thing is too we will

1126
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: say that, you know, Brady's had a much better supporting cast.

1127
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 8: That's that's what has allowed him to do that. We

1128
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 8: don't ever say that in basketball, and I know football

1129
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 8: is much more of a team sport. One player can't

1130
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 8: affect the game, as I say that all the time. Okay, okay,

1131
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 8: that's argument.

1132
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: Jordan's Okay, okay, that's my main argument against Jordan's interesting

1133
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: to me. To me, you know, I love any Geordan Kobe,

1134
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: and I love Jordan's Kobe and Kobe is basically a

1135
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: colony MJ.

1136
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: But you know what a more skilled Jeordan like better? What?

1137
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: No work? No, I think George is better than Kobe,

1138
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 3: for sure. I think Kobe's more.

1139
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Skilled, though yes, I think he's definitely more I think

1140
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: Jordan is better.

1141
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: Jordan's legacy is better. George legacy is one hundred percent

1142
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: better than Kobe. But Kobe as a basketball player, just

1143
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: as a basketball player, I think Kobe had better skill.

1144
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: He had a better jumper, he had better footwork. You had,

1145
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: like just as an all around skilled player, I think

1146
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: Kobe was better.

1147
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 3: It's Jordan not like one of the luckiest players ever.

1148
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: And that's what I was getting to bro, because people

1149
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: don't people don't give Scotty enough fucking credit. People don't

1150
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: understand that Scotty Pippen at the time, Like maybe what

1151
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: was that like ninety two ninety three, Scotty was arguably

1152
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: the second best player in the league to Jordan, like

1153
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: ninety three around there, you know what I'm saying, Like

1154
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: like this was what it was like it was Jordan Barkley,

1155
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Elijah Wan Robinson, right, and when and when MJ went out, when.

1156
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: M J retired the first time Scotty came in second

1157
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: in NVP vote.

1158
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: And he brought him, he brought him to within the game, Yeah, yeah,

1159
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 3: within the game with the.

1160
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 2: So like So for me, it's like I don't know,

1161
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: like you had you had a partner in crime.

1162
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 3: For all, you had a team, not only part of

1163
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: a team, there was almost a championship team without you

1164
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 3: and then you jump on that mother, But I'm not.

1165
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 3: I mean, Jordan was incredible, and he also changed his game,

1166
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: Like dude, I mean we didn't see the fade away

1167
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 3: came and it was necessary, you know what I'm saying.

1168
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: Like he changed his game, so we could I mean

1169
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: he could have played another a lot, at least three

1170
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 3: more years of dominant. I mean he could have want

1171
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 3: to cut maybe another championship for sure, I think one

1172
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 3: out of the other another three.

1173
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, named one player that Kobe had better than

1174
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: any of the players that Jordan had, Like, besides Quille.

1175
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 5: O'Neill, Sack kind of a big name, though, Shack's a

1176
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 5: motherfucking monster Broe, we're talking about that too.

1177
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 3: Starting five, the best players ever go to our position. Okay,

1178
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: don't do this.

1179
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 7: Who do we do?

1180
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: Who do we?

1181
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: You make me sound crazy? Crazy?

1182
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: Who's playing for? All? Right?

1183
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: Starting five? Best all time?

1184
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: Who's playing for?

1185
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson? That point guard? Okay, Kobe Bryant, shooting.

1186
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 1: Guards, small, Tim Duncan, that power forward, Shaquille on the center.

1187
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 2: You know what, I wouldn't put Shack at center. I

1188
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: put Kareem at center.

1189
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 5: Why but this team got no spacing?

1190
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: If you said best my position, not best, not best

1191
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: team I will put together.

1192
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, I think I would push Shack before.

1193
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: Kareean for sure most points all time.

1194
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: It's hard to arguev shot ever twenty year career, like

1195
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know.

1196
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: Like Shaq, Shaq had one of the most dominant runs ever.

1197
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 3: Is just the most dominant player I've ever seen, Like

1198
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: I've never were seeing a player that it was just

1199
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: impossible to stop when he was going, when he was

1200
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: on the ship.

1201
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 5: And also, would you say, it's like outside of Shack,

1202
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 5: it's a big that's a big caveat hell right shadow right.

1203
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 2: Right for the first three, the last two long saw

1204
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 2: he future Hall of Famer.

1205
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 3: I mean, y'all beat the fucking Magic bro Dwight Howard

1206
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: led Magic and the Nigga.

1207
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: The original Big Three. And that's not my fault. Bron

1208
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: didn't get it done, brun Nigga.

1209
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 3: Bron was playing with a team that when he left,

1210
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: there were the worst team in the fucking East, Nigga

1211
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: and and niggas just man like you didn't make broad

1212
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: the Naggy commercials yet because he was playing with.

1213
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 5: Fucking niggas off the street, playing with Bimbo Coles.

1214
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 3: Bro. Right, that's that's like the other team, right. Fuck

1215
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: these niggas, man, I had the team that fucking irish

1216
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 3: and dragged into the fucking finals of the Lakers. They

1217
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: have a chance. I don't care think at the best

1218
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: at this point guard was Snow, Eric fucking Snow. He

1219
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 3: was the most neediocer player in the history of fucking basketball. Bro.

1220
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: Wasn't a great shooter, wasn't a great defender, wasn't a

1221
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: great plasterer.

1222
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you bad.

1223
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: Ball?

1224
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: He walked the ball down the court.

1225
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: Not athletic, you know what I mean? The nigga Braley

1226
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: hit the fucking seventeen foot consistently, Bro, No deep ball,

1227
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 3: This jumper was booboo.

1228
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

1229
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: What the what's the who's the best player had on

1230
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: this team? What was that? Motherfucking aa had that goofy

1231
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: ass shot that was right above his head? You know

1232
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: what I'm talking about? Man, second best player on the team?

1233
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: Horn Nah? No, hell.

1234
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: Nah? Who is the motherfucker with the weird ass Jimmy

1235
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: bro was? It wasn't am I tripping anyway? Fuck that

1236
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: ship anyway?

1237
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 10: Man?

1238
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, I kdude, anybody could beat that

1239
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: weak ass matches.

1240
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: Not anybody, I mean anybody would send team dude.

1241
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about to all the famers that

1242
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: you don't think, you don't think, you don't think of

1243
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: going to the hall. You said, what you think it's

1244
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: going to he is, Yeah, that's to all the famous

1245
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 3: and he still has some go with him. Bro.

1246
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Any team that would a championship probably got to all

1247
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: the famous on the squad.

1248
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: And even like buying him was not before buying him

1249
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 5: lost his fucking mind. Lamar old him before he lost

1250
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 5: his mind.

1251
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I love him.

1252
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 7: They they were the best front court in the league.

1253
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 7: Let's not forget bat Man by.

1254
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: Faria behind it, behind it, go ahead and at you

1255
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: know sl.

1256
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: And Biden is the best front court in the league.

1257
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: At let me, who what are the front court is

1258
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: around at that time?

1259
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: You can't remember, nig because it don't matter.

1260
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: They playing weird. It wasn't weird time of basketball.

1261
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 3: It was. It wasn't. It wasn't a fun time in

1262
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: basketball either. We're talking about they got for these young

1263
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: bucks aliens that came.

1264
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: Because honestly, at that time in basketball, that's when the

1265
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: big man was getting phased out.

1266
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

1267
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: So, like so it's hard because even back then, like

1268
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: Biden was was dominant, but them was dominant. Spurts Bro

1269
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: why them didn't even play in that Orlando Final. He

1270
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 1: played in the Boston Final, but he was. He kind

1271
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: of got abused by Perkins in that in the Boston Final.

1272
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 5: So that was when Perk got hurt, wasn't it.

1273
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that's the only reason we ended up winning.

1274
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: If Perkins hadn't got hurt and run our tests, hadn't

1275
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: hit some miracle jumper at the end of game seven,

1276
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 1: we probably would only have cod probably only have four,

1277
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: not five.

1278
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 5: But I mean, that's a bad argument. Kendrick Perkins got hurt, and.

1279
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: So you disproven yourself.

1280
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: Right hey, hey, Draymond getting hurt, Jaymon gets suspended, the

1281
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: only reason bron got got one, got won the second.

1282
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 3: Half of Cleveland, right, No, Also that block. Also, he

1283
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: was best statistically in every fucking every every game. That's

1284
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel that. But come on,

1285
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: we're talking about Draymond Green that gave He gave me

1286
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 3: thirty six sects in Game seven. Perkins ain't never seen

1287
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 3: thirty nine, may not know what twenty points smells like.

1288
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, k.

1289
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: Perkins a bruser, but back back then he was the

1290
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: defensive big man that that was value he was.

1291
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 3: It was.

1292
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 2: You remember that blocking out on Braun and what was that?

1293
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 2: What was that game six?

1294
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1295
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one nigga like, come on now, name another

1296
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: highlight to man?

1297
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: Nothing one highlights.

1298
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: The nigga to the final, said Boston to the final?

1299
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: So what else we got to say about Kobe Man?

1300
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 3: Because you would lose this argument on one.

1301
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 11: The argument is, y'all, what was you the only human

1302
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 11: that believes that there's not another person that could come

1303
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 11: in and argue this because nobody.

1304
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Want I'm not the I mean honestly bro, like like

1305
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, while people are like,

1306
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: you know what, like your hometown niggas like that's why

1307
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: you believe that you're from l A from Cali?

1308
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 3: That's what this nigga wars Cali? Like the only hatsie

1309
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 3: wears a l A had to this nigga bringing up

1310
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 3: fucking l A Brown. He won't he won't wear no

1311
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: other baseball lad on now. But I got the regular

1312
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 3: standard for you feel me, I'm not gonna wear the

1313
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 3: black or the red.

1314
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: Fucking I don't wear nothing else. I don't know the

1315
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: dome besides the l A Dome.

1316
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm also I'm a big baseball fan too,

1317
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna wear

1318
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: no other team.

1319
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: You're an l A fan. That's why I Kobe your

1320
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 3: favorite player.

1321
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: Nigga, but not. But I think that I think that,

1322
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: like the best argument is kind of what you said.

1323
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: I think just from a skills perspective, skills and the

1324
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 1: intangibles that we talked about. You know what I'm saying, Like,

1325
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: like how many stories are there of Kobe's work ethic,

1326
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like he he was, out

1327
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: of doubt, had the most legendary work ethic that the

1328
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: league's ever seen.

1329
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to say most legend but I will

1330
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: say this.

1331
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: The year he came in with that big ass fuck

1332
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 3: with that little ass head, the big ass shoulders, when

1333
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 3: he was getting like when he was getting that year,

1334
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 3: that team back walked by him and the opening game

1335
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 3: was like damn, it might have been opening game of

1336
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 3: like a uh or like exhbission game anyway, but he

1337
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 3: worked out was six days a week, uh six yees,

1338
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: six days a week, six hours, two hours in the gym,

1339
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: two hours on the track, and two hours in a

1340
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 3: way world. And so I mean, yeah, I mean that's

1341
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 3: that's insane and without a doubt, went to what went

1342
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: to Germany to get a new ankle, without a doubt.

1343
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: He's without a doubt as of right now. I mean,

1344
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: I think KD gonna pass him. Without doubt. Right now,

1345
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: he's probably the best scorer you ever see. Like, let

1346
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: me tell you what, wait, outside of Okay, outside.

1347
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 3: Of KD, I think k gonna passhim. I think KD

1348
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: is gonna be looking at KD scoring. We've never even

1349
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 3: seen Kty's shot get blocked.

1350
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: Bro.

1351
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think he makes due.

1352
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at the kt' statue, how

1353
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: many times has he shot over twenty game exactly? I

1354
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: think KT gonna pass him. I said that, I think

1355
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: KT gonna pass him. At the end of Kd's career,

1356
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna be like he was the most efficient and

1357
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: best scorer we'll probably ever see.

1358
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. But as of right now,

1359
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: my nigga.

1360
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 5: Like better than Kobe.

1361
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: No that you don't believe about it. You don't believe that,

1362
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: you believe, you don't believe.

1363
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: He did res thirty thousand before Kobe did it.

1364
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Bron, Bron is a consistent score, you know

1365
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, Bron is gonna give this that

1366
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: twenty always give you to his his twenty six. He's

1367
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: gonna give you that no matter what.

1368
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 3: Okay, So we're talking about skills because if we're saying

1369
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 3: the best scorer, like, no, I'm not I'm not saying skilled,

1370
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: ka Okay, the most points. I'm saying as far as skills,

1371
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't making the best score.

1372
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: And he played for one hundred years, of course, and

1373
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: he just sat on that fucking skyhook. Bro, nobody's blocking it.

1374
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 3: He's seven shooting that bitch like nine argument. The argument

1375
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: is for Karmelon. Karmelone played twenty five years and got

1376
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: to number two on the list. But Kareem Kareem legitimately

1377
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: was an amazing score, bro, Like that's just what it is.

1378
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: Like when he was in Milwaukee, he was averaging like

1379
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: thirty five points a game, bro, with the skyhook.

1380
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, That's what I'm saying.

1381
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: He's just set on that sky.

1382
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: We're talking about skills, and.

1383
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about skills the way you could score

1384
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: the basket.

1385
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: Kobe skill can could anybody score in more ways than Kobe? Now,

1386
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can say that definitely not Bron, No,

1387
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: but I think Bron is a better score Kobe Kobe.

1388
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 5: He a better statistic, He a better shooter as far

1389
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 5: as percentage, not a better score.

1390
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeahs.

1391
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: He also doesn't take his men shots. He just doesn't

1392
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: take me but.

1393
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 3: He scores more shot more your point, because he doesn't

1394
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: take his meny shots when he scores more.

1395
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is he doesn't take as many shots

1396
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: as in like, he doesn't have to take the shots

1397
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: that Kobe has to take.

1398
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: Right, So like, because it's because he's better.

1399
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: Right because because Lebron, because Lebron. Lebron's game. Okay, how

1400
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: do I say this without sound like I hate it?

1401
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: Like Lebron's game offensively is is not very multi dimensional.

1402
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Lebron he has he has. He has a slight mid

1403
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: range game that's that's decent. His three point is outside

1404
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: game is not great. I wouldn't say it's better.

1405
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 2: It's better.

1406
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 5: He's still a better shooter than Kobe.

1407
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: No, that is not true.

1408
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 5: I'm looking at it right for Lebron to thirty two

1409
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 5: percent for Kobe.

1410
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: Kobe's Kobe lifetime percent, No from.

1411
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 5: The thirty three percent Kobe took four point one attempts

1412
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 5: a game. Lebron took four point one three point.

1413
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: His career, this career.

1414
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: You're talking about three point his career.

1415
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 3: Bro, He's not a dude. What was what was Jordan's uh?

1416
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 2: Uh wasn't even taking three?

1417
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 5: But he shot up three when Jordan.

1418
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 3: What he was hit five? That one the flu game game?

1419
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: Now that's not the flu game. The three point game

1420
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: is like the drugs. That's a drug game. Okay, okay,

1421
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: Like we just don't get a twisted like I'm a

1422
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: Jordan fan too, because.

1423
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: Like I remember, Bro, we can't we can't say, oh,

1424
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 3: that's a shooter, we can't mention it.

1425
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 5: That's exactly my point.

1426
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: No, it's not Steph Curry money.

1427
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 8: Steph if you're not knowe Curry, a good three point.

1428
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: Shooter to me is at least thirty five percent. Thirty

1429
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: percent of the field is like a solidary point.

1430
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: It depends what your role is. If you're only shooting threes,

1431
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: then yeah, you know what I'm saying, But Kobe takes Okay, Kobe,

1432
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: you said what average? What four point one three is

1433
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: a game?

1434
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: Right?

1435
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 7: Something like that?

1436
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: Right, but we all know average way more shots in

1437
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: that game. Right, he wasn't averaging sixteen shots a game.

1438
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: It's not crazy.

1439
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: So like what I'm saying is that towards crazy. You

1440
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, is this like better shots, less points.

1441
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 2: That's what it's going down to.

1442
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, like, is Lebron supposed to take more shots?

1443
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: He can't hit you? I'm saying is like when I was.

1444
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Trying to finish my argue about lebron offensive game, is

1445
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 1: that Lebron does less because he does more in other ways.

1446
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 2: Right, Lebron is a.

1447
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: Pastor, he's a facilitator, right, he's a rebounder. You know

1448
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that wasn't Kobe's role. Kobe's role,

1449
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: so player, Kobe's.

1450
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: Roll was to score the past he can do more things,

1451
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: doesn't shoot as much because he's better at other things that.

1452
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: You never heard this? You ever heard this? You ever

1453
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: heard this jack jack of all trade?

1454
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: What is it?

1455
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 5: Jack of.

1456
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like basketball, I'm a type

1457
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: of word. Just I believe that is a great shooter.

1458
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: He's one of the best shooters ever. We're gonna say

1459
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: he's a better player.

1460
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 2: Bro the.

1461
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Bryan has right, which was the leadest team

1462
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 1: in scored the basketball.

1463
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody do their job better than him

1464
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 2: right now. Lebron.

1465
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: Lebron's job is multifaceted. He does a bunch of stuff.

1466
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: Now if you if you value that, you know what

1467
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's great. But you know what I'm saying,

1468
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: like I value I value the way Kobe plays the

1469
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: game more.

1470
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: That's just how I feel. You know what I'm saying.

1471
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 5: You can't say Lebron master of none when Lebron just

1472
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 5: hit thirty thousand points too. Yeah, he's got to be

1473
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 5: the master of that like Lebron.

1474
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: He might.

1475
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 2: He might.

1476
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: He was the quickest to ever get to that too.

1477
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna have to play. I mean he

1478
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: might because he's gonna play a lot of years.

1479
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: And I think Lebron's don't play for it in a

1480
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: long time.

1481
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 3: Isn't his goal to play with his son.

1482
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he wants to do.

1483
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, like nigas, niggas confuse me saying that

1484
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: Kobe is the best to me with me saying everybody

1485
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: else is whack.

1486
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: Like I say, my top three is Kobe, MJ, Lebron.

1487
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: That's my top three.

1488
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 3: You know, no, But okay, we get that. That's fine.

1489
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 3: But you have to defend why he's even in the

1490
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 3: top three now at this point in what we're talking, man.

1491
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: Because you ain't.

1492
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: You said, like nigga shot, you compare them to the

1493
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: other nigga who in the top three, You compare them to,

1494
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 1: to Lebron, you compare them to MJ. Like I said,

1495
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: you want to interchange any of them in the top spot,

1496
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: That's fine with me because my.

1497
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: Personal preference is Kobe ban Bryant.

1498
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: You feel me now, Like if you think Lebron, if

1499
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: you value his game better, you value MJ game better.

1500
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm cool with that because I value their games a

1501
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: lot too. But I'm saying, don't put Larry Bird above

1502
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant.

1503
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like I think the fact,

1504
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: I think the one thing I feel I think Larry

1505
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 3: Bird is great. I think Larry Bird is underrated, though, Nigga,

1506
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: I think I think, I don't. I don't think people.

1507
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: Over Kobe Bryant as good as these dudes were. You

1508
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, don't put I don't know if

1509
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: I put us. They were niggas. Niggas is out here.

1510
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: Woul y'all say is better than Kobe.

1511
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 7: I don't think I say I say that. I mean

1512
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 7: Larry Bird is hands down.

1513
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: I think Larry birping b.

1514
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 3: It's weird how the white man is underrated, because usually

1515
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: that never happens white over.

1516
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: Let me ask you better like we think you. I

1517
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 2: think Bird was great, But do you think Bird would be.

1518
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 3: Bird right now?

1519
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 7: Absolutely?

1520
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: Absolutely because he because he's the people was Larry Bird,

1521
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 4: Larry Bird. Larry Bird did not dominate off of physical

1522
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 4: physical athletic ability. He would be like and and and

1523
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 4: like people say you need to be athletic in this league. Bro,

1524
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 4: we just talked about fucking James Harden. His feet leave

1525
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 4: the fucking floor six times the season. He's about to

1526
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 4: win nb B just fine in today's.

1527
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: Ways, James doesn't leave it, doesn't leave the floor, but

1528
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: he's quick in different ways.

1529
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: He has a great first step and then.

1530
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 2: Amazing his shoulders contact, and he finishes at the rim

1531
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: amazingly because he's strong.

1532
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 3: He throws his body around nice.

1533
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: Like Larry Bird to me, like, I just can't see

1534
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: him like you talking about the small floors and lead

1535
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: that he would have to go up against night after night.

1536
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 2: You're talking about K. D.

1537
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: James like we're talking about a So you said that,

1538
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 3: you're talking about this earlier, right, So, dude, I don't

1539
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: I think not a single motherfucker that we just mentioned

1540
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 3: could handle Larry Bird mentally. I think Larry Bird would

1541
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: have fucked their entire mind up.

1542
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 6: And then he had a Jimmy and he was tall

1543
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 6: as fun and that's not gonna block it. Shot eighty

1544
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 6: shot that bitch off the back of his head. He

1545
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 6: ain't blocking that motherfucker. You know what I'm saying, hand

1546
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 6: in his face. It never mattered, Bro, I'm not saying

1547
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 6: he not. I'm not saying he wouldn't been a great pastor.

1548
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 6: I'm not saying he wouldn't have been great.

1549
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: He would have been stopped.

1550
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: I seen the tape. Bro, I'm not rolling with. I'm

1551
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: not rolling with. He still would have been an m

1552
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: v P caliber. I think he would have been amazing.

1553
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: He would have been an all star. I don't think

1554
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: he would have been the m v P year after

1555
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: year like he like he was like like in the

1556
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: MVB conversation, you.

1557
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 8: Have to I think we can say that about anybody though, man,

1558
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 8: if we're looking at just the tape, because nobody had

1559
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 8: the ability.

1560
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: So Magic Johnson is basically Lebron James a little less athletic, right, So.

1561
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: So Magic Johnson now would be dumb athletic if he

1562
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 3: grew up exactly Magic probably would still the magic would

1563
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 3: have been you know what I'm saying. Bird would have

1564
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 3: been just a white dude. But you know he was

1565
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 3: still he was still done.

1566
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 6: Did this thing?

1567
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 3: Bro, I don't think for a question, I mean, for

1568
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 3: for a second, I think that Bird couldn't do niggaminated.

1569
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: The real thing that reallys thing that ever came out

1570
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 2: of the.

1571
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Eighties when you talk about Larry Bird was and Isaiah

1572
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: Thomas said that ship and he was like, Yo, Larry

1573
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: Bird is a great player. I think he's amazing. But

1574
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: if he was black, he'd be just another good player.

1575
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: And I really believe that ship nigga. I believe that ship.

1576
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to believe that niggas like Devil. I

1577
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 3: don't know about that. But yeah, I think we're done

1578
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 3: with this Kobe conversation and I think you got destroyed.

1579
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 2: Bro, niggas three. I couldn't even get to the stats best.

1580
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 2: I couldn't get to the staff.

1581
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 3: You want to say, some stats, maybe that'll save you.

1582
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 3: You're fucking drowning right now. Thought you were fucking like that.

1583
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: Throw some stats out now, man.

1584
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because I was gonna was

1585
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna talk about I was gonna I was gonna talk

1586
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 1: about I was gonna talk I was gonna talk about

1587
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: eight straight games of forty points or more. I was

1588
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: going to talk about eighty one points. I was going

1589
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: to talk about a whole season score, two scoring championships.

1590
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about a lot of that stuff.

1591
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 1: But like, I think that what people eight Kobe's style

1592
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: of play, especially now the way the game is so

1593
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: much that they don't want to give him the respect

1594
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: that I think he deserves.

1595
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 2: Like, I mean to say this nigga is not in

1596
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: the top ten.

1597
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: I think say any nigga that that that won five championships,

1598
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: is in is in the top five scoring is like

1599
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: like he was one of the greatest, like any greatest

1600
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: at their position, greatest at their position. Second, like you

1601
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: talk about his defense as well, made the off defensive team,

1602
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: like like at least ten ten out of the twenty

1603
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: years he was in the league.

1604
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,439
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So like, you're talking about

1605
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: a player Kobe Bryant was a fucking monster.

1606
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 5: And I teared up defensively undersold now because that nigga's

1607
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 5: nice on the dude, I remember.

1608
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 3: When he was old as fun when he was playing

1609
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: with bron and them his last Olympics where they were

1610
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 3: looking for him to get stops and him to score

1611
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: at end of those get those tough games I think

1612
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: they were playing. You're playing Argentina or something like that.

1613
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: You talking about you're talking about the greatest closest of

1614
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: all time. You're talking about the greatest clutch players of

1615
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: all times. He's on the top of it. He's on

1616
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 1: the top of the listed in game winning shots and

1617
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: go ahead shots and under and under a minute and

1618
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 1: a half. Like you're talking about one of the greatest

1619
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: players ever top ten To say that he's not in

1620
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: the top ten.

1621
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 2: It's just ridiculous.

1622
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 3: You say best ever, that's me.

1623
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: That's me, my nigga.

1624
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 3: Can you at least say that maybe it's because you're

1625
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 3: from l A. No.

1626
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:32,600
Speaker 2: I fully say that. I fully that.

1627
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll take I fully.

1628
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 12: Admit that I'm biased, But I'm not crazy. You're not crazy.

1629
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 12: You're very smart. You talk a lot of you talk

1630
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 12: a lot of ship. You're very smart, and you make

1631
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 12: it ring in some good points. I'm just saying he's

1632
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 12: the best player ever.

1633
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: I'm biased, but I'm not nuts. I ain't I know basketball, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1634
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: for the best. You know what I'm saying. I'm not

1635
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: that dude, all right, And I admit that, and I'm

1636
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 2: talking and.

1637
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: This whole First to admit I said this at the beginning,

1638
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. First admit that I know one of these

1639
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: niggas playing right now is gonna pass it. Okay, Like

1640
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: I know, in like fifteen years, you'll say Katie is

1641
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,600
Speaker 1: the best player. I might be like, man, like I

1642
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: used to think it was Kobe. But like I said,

1643
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: I said that before before Kobe win them last two championships.

1644
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 2: I was like, man, man, you know Kobe is my

1645
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 2: favorite player. But he ain't no way he touched MJ.

1646
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1647
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: Like so, I just for whatever reason, I think kat

1648
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: is incredible. I just don't ever see myself saying he's

1649
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: the best player to ever play. I don't ever think

1650
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 3: you get to that point in my head. Maybe we'll see,

1651
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see, we'll see.

1652
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: I'll see a crazy rack up, I mean y rack up.

1653
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you said what we want to say?

1654
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 5: He better than Kobe?

1655
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: I would, I mean, I would, I would put him.

1656
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 3: I would say he's better than Kobe.

1657
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 2: I would right now on the list you put him

1658
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: above Kobe, right now, put him.

1659
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 3: I would put him up. I would, I would, I would.

1660
01:09:55,479 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I would say, yeah, niggas, niggas don't.

1661
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: Kobe was a broke Yon hearts a couple of times.

1662
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: Actually actually against a lot of those Spurs years. I

1663
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: was rooting for Kobe to win. I think the only

1664
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 3: time that I was really rooting against him was like

1665
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 3: after Bron came into the league.

1666
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 8: Uh, after I became a big, bigger, bigger Bron fan,

1667
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 8: Like when they were trying to make Brian birdst fucking Kobe.

1668
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 8: But I remember Yeah, like when they were playing those

1669
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 8: Spurs years. I hated the Spurs, and for whatever, I

1670
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 8: think it was because I.

1671
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 3: Was in New York when the Spurs were playing the

1672
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 3: Knicks that one year that like when it was playing.

1673
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 2: Like half a year half a season.

1674
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 5: Of year.

1675
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 3: I was actually in New York.

1676
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 8: Like during those finals, bro, and I remember motherfuckers sitting

1677
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 8: on the corner with fucking two televisions at the bodega

1678
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 8: watching the games and Ship.

1679
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: I remember all the energy and I remember it was

1680
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 3: just fun and he just ruined the fun for me.

1681
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:48,879
Speaker 2: I was young.

1682
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: The Spurs, the Spurs that just ruined the fun by winning,

1683
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: and I just said, fuck the niggas. Ever since then,

1684
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: because I was talking to I'm talking to Tyler about

1685
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: the Ship, I was like, you were telling me about

1686
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 3: how the Spurs playing.

1687
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 2: I really do love how they play. I just don't

1688
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 2: know why I dislike him so much.

1689
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 3: And the only thing I can say is that to

1690
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 3: come up with is that because I just they the

1691
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 3: way they play basketball is beautiful. It's it's it's like

1692
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 3: it's like the white man's version of the fucking of

1693
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 3: the fucking Warriors.

1694
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 2: It's it's the Warriors without seasoning, you know what I mean.

1695
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they just don't have the all stars to

1696
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 3: make it like to just shoot from thirty feet, you

1697
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 3: know what I mean. That's what it is. But it's

1698
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 3: still beautiful and I still love I love Poppy. To me,

1699
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 3: he's the best coach ever, you know what I mean.

1700
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's even debatable.

1701
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

1702
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 3: I don't think it's debatable.

1703
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 7: I'm a dude than I would agree with that.

1704
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 3: I'm a du fan. I love coach, can not even coach,

1705
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 3: you know. And yeah, and then you know, I don't

1706
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 3: think old boy Phil. I think Phil was a product

1707
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 3: of his players. But in old and as I get older,

1708
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 3: Phil does not seem as as great as I once

1709
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 3: thought he was.

1710
01:11:58,120 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 8: I think he was a great coach, a great coat.

1711
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 8: But I mean, I just don't think. I don't think

1712
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 8: he's fucking with Pop at all. Like it's not even

1713
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 8: debateable him for me, you know what I mean.

1714
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: So I mean I think Pop. I think Pop definitely

1715
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: has has been able to I think Phil, as soon

1716
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: as his.

1717
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 3: Team can do more with his play than with the

1718
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:15,839
Speaker 3: team than any.

1719
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 2: Other code like pop, pop will get more of the

1720
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 2: last guy on the bitch.

1721
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Phil is always going to be concerned with

1722
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: like his his rotates, like his five guys is the

1723
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: five guys that he's like, like if you sit at

1724
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 1: the end of the bench, feeling gonna give you a

1725
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: second look.

1726
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but.

1727
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,879
Speaker 1: Popo term, you know, George hill into like an amazing

1728
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: point guard out of nowhere, you know what I mean.

1729
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just that system. It's just it's just brilliant,

1730
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, how they play, and it

1731
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 3: makes it It makes the game easy, you know what

1732
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 3: I mean, It makes you look easy. I mean, I

1733
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: feel like last year, if Kawhi didn't go down, they

1734
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 3: could have gave the fucking Warriors fitch.

1735
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: I mean they were up with twenty.

1736
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 3: Five prior to game get right, right before Kawhi went down,

1737
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: and then it was just after that ship they came

1738
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 3: back to twenty five and like a quarter like ye nigga,

1739
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 3: like why was it you know the reason they was winning.

1740
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 3: I mean, but one of the big reason they win it.

1741
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: But and and that offense. But yeah, so I think

1742
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 3: they could have gave you. I think that they could

1743
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 3: have potentially beat the Warriors. I don't think that's gonna

1744
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: happen this sear obouldly I'm thinking about his clothes. But

1745
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 3: but yeah, man, so I think Pop's the only coach

1746
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 3: that could do that. That makes sense.

1747
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, all right, I think we're.

1748
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 3: Done, guys. We're good, alrighty all right, we got that

1749
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 3: out the way. We talked a lot of basketball and

1750
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: destroyed his argument about Hey, we had the advice you

1751
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: you did like the thing. It brought up so many

1752
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,160
Speaker 3: good points last time, and I think we weren't as ready.

1753
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: Brought a whole new brain as motherfucker. It was totally different.

1754
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 3: But yo, yeah, obviously you're not. You know, you don't

1755
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 3: sound crazy, John, Okay, man, Like it was a real ship.

1756
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: Is three on one.

1757
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: Brought l a niggas will get y'all got.

1758
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: The Warriors playing it gets playing against motherfucking Lakers right now.

1759
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 3: We'll get out here. We'll get Dezy here next time.

1760
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm out here, cal y'all got the fucking starting lineup

1761
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: of the Warriors just running up.

1762
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 2: And down the court on me and ship.

1763
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 3: All right, man, so we're gonna holler y'all over.

1764
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: That's it.

1765
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 3: That's it. We were done, alright, Appreciate y'all all right,

1766
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm holler at you alright, appreciate your having me.

1767
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 13: Losing the I I'm requiring.

1768
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: Was it truth?

1769
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 13: And I'm decided hard times I'm broking fast, say leave

1770
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 13: you umping I try.

1771
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 3: I'm hopeless that in no way of brooping.

1772
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: With the spreaded car.

1773
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 13: Knock and preparations for the thing. Baby, I'm afraid, really,

1774
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 13: I'm afraid.

1775
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 2: Of giving damn man stuff.

1776
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 13: I's dressed up to three pictures and I dressed up

1777
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 13: looking dress stup.

1778
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: You need something in a catch a spatch till I

1779
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: see your love's natural.

1780
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:07,560
Speaker 3: It's not you.

1781
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:12,879
Speaker 13: And I'm scared of what the first life looking stupid

1782
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 13: and be baby of braid. Really, I'm afraid of love

1783
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 13: you so of so fraid, I'm fas fait really of

1784
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 13: bread so.

1785
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 3: So fail.

1786
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: So fast very, I'm afraid so faith.

1787
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 13: Really, I'm afraid so fairly.

1788
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 3: Kad has not given us

1789
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 5: The spirit of faith you have loved nothing like that