1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Can'f I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app John Cobelt Show on Demand. 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: That's the podcast version. If you missed the show between 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: one and four, It's always available all day night forever 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. John Cobelt's Show on Demand. It's 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: All right. We are going. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: To get into the aftermath of yesterday's attempt by Assemblyman 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Bill Sale from the Inland Empire to get the Assembly 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: to pass a law that would empower law enforcement to 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: deport convicted illegal alien child rapists and other child sex fiends. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: These are men attacking children and teens sexually viciously raping them. 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: In fact, we have a new one to add to 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: the list that we talked about yesterday, and we're gonna 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: go after now, one by one the assembly people locally 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: here in LA and Orange County who voted no or 17 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: voted abstained from voting to block this thing, especially one 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: woman in particular, who was really rude and obnoxious to 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Bill Saley over this bill. Why this woman would get 20 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: angry over trying to deport a legal alien child rapist, 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, but we'll talk about her and her 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: district and her last election coming up. Right now, let's 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: talk to Peter Harlambus from ABC News. He's been covering 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: the Trump trial and the witness The witness portion of 25 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: the trial ended yesterday and then the attorneys and the 26 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: judge started haggling over jury instructions and on Tuesday, supposedly 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: there's going to be closing arguments for both sides. We 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: will talk now with Peter and see what the last 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: witnesses like. Peter, how are. 30 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: You hey, John? Thanks so much for having me. 31 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: I well, all right. 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: So the one that caused the most fireworks and testifying 33 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: on behalf of the defense was Robert Carstello. Robert Costello, 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: former federal prosecutor, and he was brought to make Michael 35 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Cohen look like Coin is a liar? 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 2: Can he explain what happened? 37 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? So Costello was one of the two defense witnesses. 38 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: He took a stand on Monday. Defense lawyers had hoped 39 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: to use his testimony to impeach the testimony of Michael Cohen. Basically, 40 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: Costello served as a legal advisor to Cohen. In twenty eighteen, 41 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 3: after the FBI had rated Cohen's home in office, Costello 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: and Cohen met over a variety of meetings and phone 43 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: calls to discuss Cohen's legal strategy, though Costello never formally 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: became Cohen's lawyer. According to Costello, Cohen told him in 45 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen that Donald Trump had nothing to do with 46 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: the Stormy Daniels hush money payment, that he was unaware, 47 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: and that Cohen did it all on his own. That 48 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: could here at contradict Cohen's testimony that Donald Trump was 49 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: deeply involved in that hush money payment ahead of at 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: twenty sixteen in election. Where it gets to be confusing, though, 51 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: is the fact that Cohen told jurors on the witness 52 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: stand that he lied to Costell in twenty eighteen that 53 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: when he said that Donald Trump knew nothing about those 54 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: hush money payments, it was a lie, that he was 55 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: trying to protect Trump and that he didn't trust Costello. 56 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: So it's a bit confusing and not necessarily cut in 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: dry for this jury. But defense lawyers have been hammering 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: at Cohen since day one, saying he's a liar, he's 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: a thief, he simply can't be trusted. And Costello offered 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: some testimony to add to that. Kind of growing pile 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: of testimony that goes against Cohen's credibility in the case. 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: He admitted to being a thief, that he stole money 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: from the Trump organization that he was never prosecuted for. 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. So Cohen testified that he over requested 65 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars for a reimbursement, that he knew he 66 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: was stealing from his company, he never paid that money back, 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: and that he's never been charged for any crime related 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: to it. The prosecutors tried to get that out on 69 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: direct examination, trying to get ahead of it, but defence 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: lawyers really hammered at that point, using it to go 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: after Cohen's credibility, painting him is not only a liar, 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: but a thief, which is coin something which is something 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: that Coan admitted, the fact that he's made those mistakes 74 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 3: in the past. It's unclear how much of the testimony 75 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: the jury doesn't believe from Cohen will have to see 76 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: over the coming days how much of Cohen's testimony they trust. 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what you do with a guy who 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: admits that he lies and steals, but right now he's 79 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 1: not lying. 80 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: So prosecutors have tried to argue that Cohen is kind 81 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 3: of has repented for his crimes in the past, and 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 3: he's trying to do the right thing now that all 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 3: those past lies in the past and the stealing happened 84 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: when he was working for Trump, when he was loyal 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: to Trump. But it's really not a black and white 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: issue in the way. There's a lot of gray here 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: in that there's some testimony and evidence to back up 88 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: what's Coen is saying. There are other times when defence 89 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: lawyers have seemingly caught Coen and what they say is 90 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: a lie. For example, there was a big sticking point 91 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: on last week's testimony that Cohen talked about a major 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 3: phone call on our October twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, with Trump, 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: where they confirmed the plan to go forward with that 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: Stormy Daniels hush money payment. Defense lawyers came with evidence 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: actually suggesting that phone call was Cohen complaining about a 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: prank caller who'd been blowing up his phone to Trump's bodyguard. 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: Cohen refused to say that his testimony was a liar 98 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 3: and consistent stood by what he originally said, but it 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: left at times damning impression of Cohen in the minds 100 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: of the sorry in front of this jury. So we'll 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: see what they necessarily believe in what they don't as 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: they head into deliberations, which could begin as early as Wednesday. 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: Is Cohen the only witnesses the only witness that specifically 104 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: ties Trump to this plot to pay off Stormy Daniels? 105 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Is he the only one with the details about it? 106 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 3: So Cohen's the only one who's talked about this his 107 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: actions in depth with Trump ahead of the twenty sixteen election. 108 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: Other witnesses have talked about the paper trail, the checks, 109 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: the invoices. Hopepis, the former White House communications director, testified 110 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: that Trump told her that he preferred the story come 111 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: out after the twenty sixteen election, and that he spoke 112 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: with added that payment was being made, that Con was 113 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: making a quote out of the kindness of his heart. 114 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: But really, Con is the star witness here. His testimony 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: really sits at the center of the case, and issues 116 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: with his credibility could spell a major problem for prosecutors. 117 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: Now, going back to Robert Costello, the attorney who said 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Coin was lying, he got into a few problems with 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: the judge. 120 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Honestly, the most dramatic and kind of shocking moment 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 3: of this entire trial came during Costello's testimony. The judge 122 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: accused Costello of staring him down, giving him side eye, 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: responding audibly to some of the judge's rulings when it 124 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: came to objections. The judge at one point cleared the 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: jury from the courtroom and gave Costello a lecture on 126 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: courtroom tocorram courtroom decorum. When Costello then stared down the judge, 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: he simply had enough. The judge cleared the courtroom of 128 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: the sixty members of the press and basically told Costello 129 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 3: that his conduct was bordering on contempt and that if 130 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 3: he did it again, he'd be kicked off the witness stand. 131 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: We've never seen any kind of any level of that 132 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: frustration from the judge in this trial before. It was 133 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: kind of stunning to see in person. 134 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: So they've hashed out the jury instructions. Is anybody aware 135 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: of what the instructions will be or you have to 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: wait till Tuesday. 137 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: We're still piecing together what the instructions might be. The 138 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: press doesn't have access to the proposed charge. We think 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: the charge will be finalized by the judge tomorrow, but 140 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: we were present for the charging conference yesterday, which kind 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: of gave us a sense of what Marshaan is thinking. 142 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: Mirshan has suggested he wants to make this as clear 143 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: as possible for the jury. He wants to stick to 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: the standard jury instructions for these crimes. Basically, in order 145 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: to convict Trump, the jury will have to believe beyond 146 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: the reasonable doubt that Trump knowingly falsified documents that he 147 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: did that in furtherance of another crime. The prosecutors don't 148 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: need to specify what that other crime was. The jury 149 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: doesn't have to believe that Trump actually committed that other crime. 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: So it's a very interesting standard. 151 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: Wait, wait, go do that again. I mean, I've heard 152 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: this before and I don't understand added. The prosecutors don't 153 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: have to specify the crime that these uh that that 154 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: these misdemeanors were in service of the misdemeanors were falsifying 155 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: the records, right, But the reason there's a felony is 156 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: he was falsifying the records in order to commit this 157 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: second crime. But they don't have to explain what the 158 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: second crime is, and they don't have to prove that 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Trump actually committed the second crime. 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll hear more about this with certainty once 161 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: we see or hear the charge over the coming days. 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: But it seems as though the legal standard here is 163 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: just this two prong tests. One, did Donald Trump knowingly 164 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: falsify these documents, both either by signing the document or 165 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: causing someone else, for example, an accountant in the Trump 166 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: organization to falsify them for him. That's prong one. Prong 167 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: two is whether or not these documents were falsified in 168 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 3: furtherance of another crime. Now, prosecutors have suggested those other 169 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: crimes could be a New York state election law, tax law, 170 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: or federal campaign finance law. 171 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: They're saying what the specif crime was. 172 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not saying definitively that Trump even committed that 173 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: specific crime. 174 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't get this, Am I being stupid? 175 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: No? It's confusing at times, and I'm very curious how 176 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 3: the jury's going to be instructed on this because it's 177 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: an interesting test, and you know, it's a very weighty 178 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 3: burden convicting a former president of the United States are 179 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: possibly acquitting him. But it seems as though all they 180 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: need to find here is beyond the reasonable doubt Trump 181 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: knowingly falsified these documents and then on top of that, 182 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: made that falsification to advance another crime. It doesn't seem 183 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: like we're going to get that much specificity, or at 184 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: least the jury at this point hasn't heard really clearly 185 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: articulated by the prosecutors what that other crime needs to be, 186 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: though they've offered a few examples, including the fact that 187 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 3: they were possibly tax crimes committed when they reimbursed Cohen, 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: the fact that the Stormy Daniels payment might have been 189 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: a campaign contribution, and this idea that there's New York 190 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: state law that prohibits illegally influencing elections. But there's a 191 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: lot there to understand. The judge has emphasized though, he 192 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: wants it to be as clear and easy, basically as 193 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: possible for the jury to understand all of this so 194 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: that they can kind of make a clear decision. We'll 195 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: see how long deliberations take here. Yeah, when are the complicated. 196 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: When are the deliberations likely to start? 197 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: So we think they're going to begin sometime on Wednesday morning. 198 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: The judge is going to charge the jury. That will 199 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 3: take about an hour around nine thirty in the morning 200 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: on Wednesday, and at that point, this issues in the 201 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: hands of the jury. They could take as long as 202 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: they'd like. We've seen vertics come back in a few hours, 203 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: We've seen verdicts come back in a week, so it's 204 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: hard to say at this point. 205 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,599 Speaker 1: All right, Peter, thank you very much. I guess we 206 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: got a week until the deliberations start. Peter Harlumbus, ABC 207 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: News and Investigative reporter Here. 208 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 209 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: six forty. 210 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: We will continue here now with something we started in 211 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: the last few days, and everybody ought to be aware 212 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: of this. 213 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: This is really, really gross. We have an assemblyman named 214 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: Bill A. Sale. 215 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: He's the good guy in this. He's from the Inland Empire, 216 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: and he's got an Assembly Bill twenty one, and he 217 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: wanted to end sanctuary protections for illegal aliens convicted of 218 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: sex crimes against children. Yes, child rapists, child predators, pedophiles, 219 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: whatever your favorite term to describe these perverts, Assaille says. 220 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: And it's true that the sanctuary state policies protect these 221 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: criminals so that when they get out, they're not deported. 222 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: Nobody in law enforcement, nobody in the legal system, can 223 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: help the US government and identify where this person is 224 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: and when they're getting out, and then take them to 225 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: Ice to have them shipped out of the country. 226 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: Can't do that in California. It's really outright. 227 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about convicted illegal alien child rapists just as 228 00:11:54,080 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: one category. And to demonstrate that, we're going to play 229 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: this news story. And this is Hailey Winslow. This is 230 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: her updated report. I told you yesterday she had a 231 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: report on Fox eleven about the guy driving around in 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: his rape dungeon van, dragging women up into the Angels 233 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: National Forest, trapping them in the van and raping them. 234 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: And there were two victims and the police encountered him 235 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: in the midst of one of these acts. Well, it 236 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: turns out other women are coming forward and he has 237 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: also done this to at least one child. And you'll 238 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: hear about the evidence in this report Hailey Winslow Fox eleven. 239 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 5: Well sources say at least two more victims, unfortunately have 240 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: come forward and they're family members, and at least one 241 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: of them is a child. And I can now report 242 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: what I'm told the forensic team uncovered inside that van. 243 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 6: We want to warn you it is very disturbing. 244 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 5: Stench, overpowering, the mess, overwhelming condoms, Christmas toys, a motorized scooter, 245 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 5: beer glue markers, improvised restraints, a metal partition, and locks 246 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 5: on the outside. Two heroic deputies arrested forty year old 247 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: Eduardo Sarabia in the Angelus National Forest last week. Investigators 248 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 5: say they caught Serabia raping a twenty six year old woman. 249 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 6: At knife point. On the inside the quote Dungeon rape van, 250 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 6: where investigators say a serial rapist took his victims at 251 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 6: least two women, possibly kids, the evidence forensic investigators found 252 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,239 Speaker 6: is extremely disturbing. 253 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: In here. 254 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 6: There's the mattress many spots, there's semen they found on it. 255 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 6: There's several cell phones and thumb drives where they believe 256 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: he was videotaping his victims. And most disturbing in all 257 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: of this is probably a small pair of shoes with 258 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 6: splattered blood on the soles. All of that evidence has 259 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 6: been a horse processed, and inside the van is everything. 260 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 5: That's left taken to the crime lab. Law enforcement officers 261 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:12,119 Speaker 5: say the forensic team found multiple pairs of women's underwear 262 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 5: tucked in corners of the van. They believe he collected 263 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: as trophies, a small pair of pajamas, and next to 264 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 5: the small bloody shoes, investigators. 265 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: Say they found a shovel. That gruesome evidence. 266 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: Obviously raises a lot more questions. Sources say the family 267 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 5: members who have come forward since the Robbia's arrest have 268 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 5: had concerns about him for years. However, they were afraid 269 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 5: to alert authorities because they're undocumented immigrants and feared no 270 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 5: one would believe. 271 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: Them or they'd be deported. So the first. 272 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 5: Victim escaped, she was sleeping next to a building and 273 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 5: a security guard actually woke her up, and she said, 274 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 5: please just leave me alone, let me be. 275 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: I've just been raped. 276 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 5: And he said, well, we need to call nine one one, 277 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: and that's how the whole thing unfolded. The fear, of course, 278 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: now is with the shovels being found inside the van 279 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: and these very small clothing and the shoes with the 280 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 5: blood on him, that there might be a lot more victims, 281 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 5: and there might be more than just one. 282 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: Child, and maybe they're buried, maybe they're dead. 283 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Now, this is exactly the kind of guy that the 284 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Assembly Democrats are protecting by refusing to allow him to 285 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: be deported with California's help because guess who's going to 286 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: be prosecuting this case. It's George Gascone. Now, nobody believes 287 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: the Gascone will end up prosecuting him and having him 288 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: fully sentenced should be life in prison. But even so, 289 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: this guy is thirty eight years old, he's probably been 290 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: doing this for a while, and he's only twelve years 291 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: away from retirement age. For prisoners, you're considered elderly when 292 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: you pass a fifty year mark. When you're over fifty 293 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: years old, you're an elderly prisoner and you're eligible for parole. 294 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: And these guys are getting parole, even the ones who 295 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: committed heinous crimes. They're getting paroled because of the California legislature. 296 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: And the California legislature now has turned on Bill Assale. 297 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: They're so angry with him because he's embarrassed them. They 298 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: won't even consider a law that would eventually deport Eduardo Sarabia. 299 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: Do you hear. 300 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: The small pajamas, small pair of shoes with blood spattered 301 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: on it. He's raping and possibly killing little girls. And 302 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that's who these Democrat Assembly people are protecting, including Democratic women. 303 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Going to talk about one of them coming up because 304 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: she only won her election by five hundred and twenty 305 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: two votes, and there ought to be five hundred and 306 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: twenty two people in their district that would change their 307 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: vote just based on this story alone. And what happened 308 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: yesterday with Bill of Sale's bill. Get into all that 309 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: coming up. 310 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 311 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 4: six forty. 312 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: We are going to continue now covering the Bill of 313 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: Sale bill, the Bill of Saley bill. A Sale offered 314 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: a motion yesterday so that the Assembly could vote on 315 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: weather to end sanctuary protections for illegal aliens convicted of 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: sex crimes against children, my child rapists one category. And 317 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: we just played you the story. And this is this 318 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: week's horrible set of atrocities from Hailey Winslow at Fox eleven. 319 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: This is the Edward Our Sarabia case, Syria rapist. He 320 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: was driving around a rape dungeon on wheels, that's what 321 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: the deputies called it, and it looks like he was 322 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: raping young girls in there. They found a small pair 323 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: of shoes with blood spattered on the souls, a small 324 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: shovel which is really ominous, and he had multiple pairs 325 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: of women's underwear that Sarabia kept his trophies, and this 326 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: heartbreaking detail a pair of small pajamas. So Sarabia is 327 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: raping young girls, possibly killing them. And when guess going 328 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: lets Sarabia out, which he will, you know, the sentence 329 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: is not going to be that tough, not even for 330 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: a child rapist. 331 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: And the keller. 332 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Remember esciavo Is represents the fortieth Assembly district Northern LA County, 333 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: Santa Clarita area, and she won her election by only 334 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty two votes. It may not surprise 335 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: you that, of course the La Times endorsed her, so 336 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: they were happy to endorse a woman, a mother, by 337 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: the way, who will not allow the deportation of an 338 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: illegal alien convicted of child rape, polar skiavo And I'm 339 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: thinking that maybe we've got to bring back something from 340 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: long ago, and it's called political human sacrifice. It's really 341 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: hard to go after legislators in this state because there's 342 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: so many of them. There's eighty Assembly districts there. California 343 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: is huge, and you know, our listenership is concentrated in 344 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: certain areas and not in others. But I think for 345 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty two votes. I think we can 346 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: make an example of Polar Skiavo because it really bothers 347 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: me that a woman and a mother, after having this situation, 348 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: clearly explained to her about these illegal alien child rapists 349 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: and other sexual child predators that would be obviously you 350 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: want to be able to deport them, and she says no. 351 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: And further, when Assale pointed out publicly that she had 352 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: only won by five hundred votes, she got pissed off 353 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: and called him disgusting. So this is what we're dealing 354 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: with here with Pilar Skiava. Let me give you a 355 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: sense of what it was like in Sacramento yesterday. They 356 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: cut off, as you may have heard, as Sale's microphone 357 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: while he was making his motion and he was just 358 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: describing what the motion was. He motioned to have the 359 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: Assembly vote on the bill, and the Speaker pro Temp, 360 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Jim Wood from Northern California, started saying, stop, stop, stop. 361 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: You went beyond making a motion, you started to go 362 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: into debate. Well, he was describing the motion. He was 363 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: describing the bill he wanted to vote to end sanctuary 364 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: state protections for illegal immigr and pedophiles. 365 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: That was the bill. 366 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: Describing the bill was declared out of bounds by Jim 367 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: Wood from Healdsburg. Let's play the clip and in case 368 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: you missed it recognized. 369 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 7: Thank you, mister Speaker. I moved to suspend the rules 370 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 7: and invoke the. 371 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: California over Jury instructions. And Speaker I moved. 372 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 7: To suspend the rules and invoke the California Constitution to 373 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 7: withdraw Assembly Bill two six four one, which will end 374 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 7: sanctuary state protections for convicted illegal imop pedophiles. 375 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 2: Stop. 376 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 8: You went beyond making emotion. You started to go into debate. 377 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 8: You can make the motion, but you cannot talk about 378 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 8: the motion will be non debatable. So you made your motion, 379 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 8: your emotion correct. 380 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: And now I'm just going to speak without a microphone 381 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: because Jim Wood didn't like him describing you on the 382 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: mine a second, all right, you can cut it off there. 383 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: So why are all the Democrats in the Assembly either 384 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: voting no or refusing to vote. Some of her cowards, 385 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: they refuse to vote. They don't want this on their record, 386 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: but they're against this. Not one Democrat voted yes. Now 387 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: let's go back to example A this week, Edward Sarabia. 388 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Why would you not vote to eventually deport him? When 389 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: the evidence includes a small pair of girl's shoes with 390 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: blood spattered on the soules, next to a small shovel, 391 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: and small pajamas in addition to the women's underwear. Because 392 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: he rapped a number of adult women and who knows 393 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: how many he killed, We don't know, But that's who 394 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: Pilar Scalva wants to protect from Santa Clarita. Why does 395 00:22:53,480 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: she want to protect Eduardo Sarabia? Why is that? I mean, 396 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: I truly is that too provocative a question? 397 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: Is that too a sale said that they. 398 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: Refuse to have even a hearing because they know I 399 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: bring the angel moms and the county sheriffs to testify. 400 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Angel moms are mothers whose children were killed by illegal aliens. 401 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: For example, Agnes Gibbney, who we've had on the show. 402 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe this, but her son was killed by 403 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: an illegal alien twenty two years ago, and Gibbey said, 404 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: they put illegal aliens before us and our children. In 405 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: the twenty two years since my son was murdered, not 406 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: a single thing has been done. I am outraged. Yeah, 407 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: because we've had one party rule in the legislature for 408 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: those twenty two years. Asali said, this is just another 409 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: day in the capitol. These politicians, they don't give a damn. 410 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: They literally don't give a damn. It's totally outrageous. You 411 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: should see how cavalier and casually they voted this down. 412 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: It's totally meaningless to them. They're totally disconnected. I hope 413 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: the people see what happened today. Why does state law 414 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: protect pedophile legal immigrants? Why are we shielding them from ice? 415 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: They won't even answer the question. They won't have the hearing, 416 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: they won't listen to any evidence. They won't even allow 417 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: Bill Sale to say on a microphone what the law 418 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: is about taking away protections for illegal immigrant pedophiles. And 419 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: when this has pointed out to polar Skiavo, this assembly 420 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: woman in Santa Clarita, that this is what she supports, 421 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: and she only won by five hundred and twenty two votes, 422 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: she calls a Sale disgusting. Now, I don't know what 423 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: kind of people we have up there, especially somebody who's 424 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: a woman and another I don't understand that. And of 425 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: course they never speak. She can call us here at 426 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: the show anytime she wants. I'll give her the whole show. 427 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: We can have a three hour discussion why she thinks 428 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: an illegal alien child rapist like Eduardo Sarabia, with his 429 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: collection of pajamas, child's pajamas and children's shoes, and the 430 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: blood and the shovel of the whole bit, why at 431 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: some point he shouldn't be deported. Can't rely on gascon 432 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: to send him to prison for any length of time? 433 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: Can we? I don't know how we got here. It's 434 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: so bizarre. It's like some weird horror movie. 435 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: But yeah, Pillarsciavo, we'll be discussing her between now and 436 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: November periodically, and maybe there's five hundred and twenty two 437 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: people that we can change their minds on, at least 438 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: in the Santa Clarita area, which I don't think what 439 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I know of the area, I don't think most of 440 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: the people they are cool with this. 441 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 442 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: six forty. 443 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: Well, come out of after three o'clock. The chancellor at 444 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: UCLA is being sent to Washington. Congress is going to 445 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: give him a public spanking. I mean that literally, he's 446 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: going to be bent over and spanked by members of Congress. 447 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: We'll give you the details over the terrible way that 448 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: he handled the protests. But I have something that's going 449 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: to light you up here. Would you believe another Boeing story? No, 450 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: this could be the mother of all Boeing stories. Here 451 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet, but here's the headline in the Daily Mail. 452 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Three hundred Boeing planes used by United and American have 453 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: potentially fatal has a potentially fatal fault that could cause 454 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: the jets to explode in mid air. And this is 455 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: not clickbait. The issue involves an electrical fault on the 456 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: seven seven seven jets that could cause fuel tanks on 457 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: the wings to catch fire and explode. Covers three hundred 458 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: US planes. The FAA reported the issue in March and 459 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: gave Boeing until May ninth to respond, but nobody knows 460 00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: if they did or not. 461 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 9: Second, so this has been known since March. What is 462 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 9: it May twenty second? 463 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: Okay? 464 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 9: And these planes are still flying, yes, so they should 465 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 9: have been immediately grounded. 466 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: They were not. 467 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: There was an actual airworthiness directive And I'm looking at 468 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: the print out here they have. They have screenshots at 469 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, and this is a real thing and 470 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: it says this condition, if not addressed, could result in 471 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: an ignition source inside the fuel tank and subsequent fire 472 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: or explosion. It would cost Boeing about seven hundred thousand 473 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: dollars to correct all the aircraft. Because it's only an 474 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: electrical short, so it's not very expensive for the airline. 475 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: The parts required to remove these static electricity risks would 476 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: only cost ninety eight dollars for each plane. They want 477 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: to do electrical bonding and grounding to be installed to 478 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: prevent a short circuit or an electrostatic discharge. And we 479 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: never even talked about the Singapore flight yesterday. That was Boeing, Yes. 480 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 9: It was, although we can't really blame Boeing for that one, right, 481 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 9: I mean that was turbulence. 482 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: We can't blame Bowing for the weather. No, no, no, 483 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: I was going to I know you were, but we haven't. 484 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 9: You know, we have to be fair and balanced. 485 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: Well you do, that's true, you don't. 486 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: No, I can be unfair and unbalanced, and I am 487 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: uh yeah, that poor seventy three year old guy, I know. 488 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: And then twenty three others injured, and the apparent a 489 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: lot of head and spinal injuries because people were flung 490 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: into the ceiling. 491 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 9: You have to keep your seatbelt on the whole time. 492 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 9: I mean, people are going to have to figure out 493 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 9: how to pee without moving. 494 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: I know, right, terrified going to the men's room, right, 495 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: I know that's not where I want to die if 496 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: there's turbulence. I don't want to smash my head and 497 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: die and then drop into the toilet and that's where 498 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: they find me lying bad. Yeah, there we go. Nice life, 499 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: great way to end. So but see that, But there's 500 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: there's no information. If Boeing said, yeah, you're right, or 501 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: go stick it or we're right on it, it's already fixed. 502 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 9: No, the planes all should have been grounded, and Boeing 503 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 9: should say, okay, we're going to check each and every 504 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 9: plane because as you said, the cost is minimal, right, 505 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 9: but when people die on planes, that's gonna be a 506 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 9: lot of money. 507 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: I've never seen a company have this much bad news 508 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: in this short a time in my life. It seems 509 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: like this is probably like ten years worth of bad deeds. 510 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 2: All piled up to get them. 511 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 9: Yet people still have their jobs. 512 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, what is it? What does it take 513 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: to get fired? 514 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: And Boeing I don't know, because he's even the ones 515 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: that are eased out or eased out with. 516 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: They get a lot of money one time million dollar packages. 517 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: It's not there, John, I know I'd like a seven 518 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: figure firing like that. That'd be wonderful. Well me take 519 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: over boeing. Uh, there's no outcry for that. 520 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: As as bad as it is, nobody has said, let 521 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: Deborah run bowing. 522 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 9: Well, let's start a campaign. 523 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: Like it's not that bad. 524 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: All right, Debra's got the news coming up, and then 525 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the chancellor at UCLA. God, 526 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: he's I think less than two months away from the 527 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: end of his term, and what a way to go out. 528 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: He's being hauled off to Washington, d C. 529 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: To get yelled at by Congress for the lousy way 530 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: he handled the Palestinian protest. 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