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Speaker 1: What is Up? Mets fans, Welcome back to the season

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Speaker 1: preview episode of the Mets Stuff Podcast. Some sirens, whether

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, again, probably want to spend like maybe twenty

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Speaker 1: stuff going on with this team. One more thing, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna wear a butterouse and patch. This is nice, okay,

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Speaker 1: which I like, really good. Yeah, honoring in all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we killed the black jerseys, but at least we had

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Speaker 1: the patch, which will be a nice addition. Because the

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Speaker 1: black jerseys look horrendous right now. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys caught those on Twitter, but they are bad.

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Speaker 1: They went from being some of the best years in

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Speaker 1: baseball to one that I would not spend even a

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Speaker 1: cent on that. They look horrible.

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Speaker 2: But we're not buying any official jersey this year. It's

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Speaker 2: official official stand to the Messed Up Podcast DHK.

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Speaker 1: We're not giving them more money. Never again. We can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't. We can't do it. Not one year after

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Speaker 1: they got rid of us, maybe two years. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how we feel now, maybe maybe never again. But now

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about some real stuff. We want

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Speaker 1: to talk about where this Mets team can exceed expectations.

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Speaker 1: What can happen this Mets team to make them good?

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Speaker 1: Who arguing with the X factors?

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Speaker 2: And we've had these conversations before earlier in the offseason,

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Speaker 2: but now we want to talk about because we're so

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Speaker 2: close form like Ron the Razors attion and just what

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Speaker 2: what gets his team to the playoffs? What makes his

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Speaker 2: team win eighty five gamestead of eighty one? What could

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Speaker 2: even make them win eighty seven eighty eight? Am I

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Speaker 2: even going to say ninety because I think that's crazy?

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Speaker 2: But like, what what what can be worth those five

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Speaker 2: wins for the Mets? How do we get to the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: I want you to ask you what you think is

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Speaker 2: the most important thing possibly to getting this Mets team

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Speaker 2: to the playoffs?

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Speaker 1: Ooh? I mean, truthfully, the most important thing is the pitching.

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Speaker 1: Like we we need one of these starting pitchers to

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Speaker 1: step up, and I don't necessarily know if it's going

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Speaker 1: to be like a Maniah or let's even say Sevarino,

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Speaker 1: like it might have to be like a Christian Scott

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Speaker 1: who comes up late. It might have to be a

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Speaker 1: Mike Vassel, it might have to be Tyler and mc.

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Speaker 1: I think it's more of those back end guys that

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Speaker 1: we have more question marks about what their actual floor

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Speaker 1: and ceiling looks like, rather than the guys like Manaya,

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Speaker 1: hows Er, Severarino, where we kind of are comfortable with

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna be. And honestly, we need code I

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Speaker 1: Sango back as soon as possible if we can get

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Speaker 1: him back in May. If we can, let's say June

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Speaker 1: is the earliest that we can get him back. Even

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Speaker 1: getting him for those three or four months down the

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Speaker 1: stretch could very well be the difference between three and

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Speaker 1: four wins for this team over the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: and that could be eighty one wins eighty four wins

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Speaker 1: right there. It's it's gonna be at the starting pitching

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Speaker 1: without doubt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I like how you took the ceiling

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Speaker 2: approach because I was gonna very oppose to take the

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Speaker 2: floor approach. We just need the Howser, Manaiyah Miguel Kantana

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Speaker 2: quadrant to just be acceptable we can have. We can't

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Speaker 2: have a six R at the end of May from

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Speaker 2: any of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Just can't happen.

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Speaker 2: Like maybe someone has one awful star and then like

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Speaker 2: five pretty good ones with the era is six but

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Speaker 2: in process wise more, but we just can't. We saw

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Speaker 2: last year how much of compounds when starting pitchers don't

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Speaker 2: give length. It was weeks last year before the mes

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Speaker 2: pitcher completed six hits. You can't have that again. You

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Speaker 2: need Sean Maya and you need Adrian howse I mean,

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Speaker 2: Manaia is a weird one because we even saw this

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Speaker 2: last spring start where he looked really good, but that

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Speaker 2: last inning he fell apart as velocity went from ninety

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Speaker 2: four to ninety one. And you could see it last

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Speaker 2: year in the way the Giants used him. And so

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Speaker 2: I've been kind of saying all off season and when

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Speaker 2: we signed him, that's just he might not be as

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Speaker 2: traditional as a star there as Mets and other people want,

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Speaker 2: but just being able to manipulate him in a way

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Speaker 2: and makes him as efficient as possible. That's why I again,

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Speaker 2: a guy like Michael Tonkin comes in handy and.

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Speaker 1: Is very good.

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Speaker 2: There's why a guy like Jose Budo, who's going to

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Speaker 2: be on this roster sooner rather than later, becomes a

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Speaker 2: glue guy for the staff. If Jose Budo I like

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Speaker 2: if Houser Manaia Budo combined for four hundred innings and

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Speaker 2: a four to two RA that's kind of like you

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Speaker 2: just had what used to be too traditional good back

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Speaker 2: end stars, but you just displaced it to a third guy.

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Speaker 2: But still the same effect at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: just waiting extra roster spot, which they need. They're good,

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Speaker 2: needs to be creative with the back Sanga has to

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Speaker 2: come back and he has to be good. And seven

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Speaker 2: Reno looks looks like an X factor and he's healthy

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Speaker 2: right now and he was throwing bulletst the end of

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Speaker 2: the spring and he's a guy I'm just high on

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Speaker 2: in general. I did my bold predictions on Twitter the

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Speaker 2: other day. I got I think he could be an

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Speaker 2: All Star, Like he's he looks like he has everything

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Speaker 2: that we've waining from the half for a few years.

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Speaker 1: Just please be healthy.

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Speaker 2: And it's just those guys the back end, even even McGill,

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Speaker 2: just just holding it together, just keeping that shoulder attached

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Speaker 2: to the arm. Just everybody there pitching good innings, getting

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Speaker 2: through five, sometimes getting through six, two runs on the board,

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Speaker 2: handing it to the bullpen with the game intact. That

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Speaker 2: is gonna be so important to this team because I

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Speaker 2: think one of the strengths right now might be the

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Speaker 2: floor of pitching. But again, if two of those these

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Speaker 2: guys fall apart, it's not gonna be true anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I'm just also really confident in

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Speaker 1: this Mets lineup, Like I think they are a top

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Speaker 1: ten lineup in Major League Baseball? Is that? Is that

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Speaker 1: a crazy thing to say? I think they are because

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Speaker 1: the next segment. Yeah, But I at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, like I think this lineup is gonna be

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Speaker 1: really good offensively, like especially adding JD. Martinez. Now, given

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Speaker 1: that extra length of that lineup could be really good

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Speaker 1: to the point where I think they're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to score enough runs to win. It's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: about limiting now with the pitching. Which that's like, oh stupid,

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Speaker 1: that's so obvious. That's how baseball work. You gotta score

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Speaker 1: more than the other team. But sometimes it's it is

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Speaker 1: that simple, and the lineup is going to be able

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Speaker 1: to score enough runs, especially if some of the other

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Speaker 1: players in that lineup take the step forward or bounce

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Speaker 1: back like we hope they do. It's just about the pitching,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's super boring. That's like the most boring

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Speaker 1: X factors. Like the pitching needs to be good, Like yeah, no, shit,

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Speaker 1: of course it does. But like that's the problem with

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Speaker 1: this roster. That was the problem coming in, that was

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Speaker 1: the problem last year, that's been the problem last few

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Speaker 1: years is getting the pitching down. If we can do that,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that can definitely make the playoffs. Definitely.

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Speaker 2: You'd love JAJ Martinez coming to the lineup giving extra length.

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Speaker 2: Mark loves extra length. That's his favorite extra length. But

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Speaker 2: it's again, it will start with the lineup for this

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Speaker 2: to actually be a top ten lineup, Like you need Pete, Nimo,

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Speaker 2: Lindor and JD Martinez to all be something like they

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Speaker 2: were each of the last couple of years. Where like

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Speaker 2: Neimo is probably one that some people have the least

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Speaker 2: faith in because it's it's weird for us to realize

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Speaker 2: brand Nemo is like an All Star caliber player at

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Speaker 2: this point, like one of the one of the three

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Speaker 2: to five best left fielders in all of baseball, but like,

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Speaker 2: that's where he.

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Speaker 1: Is, and the JJ Martin what I've got beef. I've

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Speaker 1: got beef real quick that I want to just lead

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Speaker 1: your attention to. ESPN put out their top one hundred

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Speaker 1: players rankings. Brand Nemo was one, ranked ninety first, behind

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Speaker 1: Kyle Schwarber, behind Jeremy Paana. Behind those players, They're like,

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Speaker 1: he's one of the most underaded players in the league.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, and you're doing it. You did it again,

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Speaker 1: ninety first behind Schwarber and Jeremy Paine. Will be crazy.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's bad?

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Speaker 2: Sny to that on Tuesday rank top ten players combined

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Speaker 2: between the Mets and Yankees rosters, and Brandon Nimmo.

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Speaker 1: Was not on it. The Mets broadcast Ye didn't have

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Speaker 1: one of the best players on both of these two

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Speaker 1: teams ranked who made it ahead of him? Who made

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Speaker 1: it ahead of him?

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Speaker 2: Really, I don't know if it was Martino or McCarran.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can try and find it right now, but

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Speaker 2: I saw it while I was folling earlier today, but

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Speaker 2: it was Starling Martey was the tenth guy on there,

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Speaker 2: head of brand Nemo, which is ahead of Brandon Nimmo

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Speaker 2: know anything about baseball if you think that's true, but painful, painful.

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Speaker 2: But again, now you have to have those guys do

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Speaker 2: what they have to do. And I think all those

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Speaker 2: guys can even be better than they were last year,

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Speaker 2: besides Martinez, because he's not gonna be hitting behind them

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Speaker 2: Mookie Bets and Fredie Freeman anymore. Like sometimes you Bets

601
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Speaker 2: in you or your Freeman, but that's gonna be different. He'

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Speaker 2: thinking still be okay, can still be okay, still be

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Speaker 2: totally okay. But those four guys just probably combining for

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Speaker 2: a clean you know, four hundred RBIs, one hundred and

605
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Speaker 2: twenty homers, one hundred and forty homers, that'd be awesome.

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Speaker 2: But then I think the big part of this Met's lineup,

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Speaker 2: like you say, being a top ten lineup, comes from

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Speaker 2: the next section of the lineup, Alvarez, Marte McNeil, and Baty,

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Speaker 2: those guys right there, because there's a lot of outcomes

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Speaker 2: for those four guys right there, Like Brett Baty could

611
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Speaker 2: do anything from what he did last year to being

612
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Speaker 2: like guys twenty percent bet in the g average twenty

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Speaker 2: five home runs. Jeff McNeil's on base percentage could literally

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Speaker 2: be anywhere from three to eighty to two eighty, which

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Speaker 2: would be if drafts like different player. Starry Martell had

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Speaker 2: no idea. He was so pitiful this spring and he's

617
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Speaker 2: it's a good chance he's the DH an opening day.

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Speaker 2: He kind of feels like right now based on the

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Speaker 2: way they aligned this roster, just because not pulling Vento's

620
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Speaker 2: up means probably Tyrone Taylor in the field, which means

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Speaker 2: you probably put Marte in the bench where you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a light hitting DH in the seven hole. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna be miserable all year. I hate that he's on

624
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Speaker 2: this contract with his team and it's just and then

625
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Speaker 2: now then it comes down to Alvarez, who's probably the

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Speaker 2: one with the most ceiling. But also I think that

627
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Speaker 2: and we're part of this probably overrating him a little bit.

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Speaker 2: He was what a two ninety on base percentage guy

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Speaker 2: last year, Like if he can't get that on base

630
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Speaker 2: percentage of three twenty, like then suddenly he's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we still really need a step for you to become

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Speaker 2: someone who's actually a difference maker in this lineup. And

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Speaker 2: maybe two of those things happen. Maybe three of them happen,

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Speaker 2: maybe four of them happen, maybe none of them happened.

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Speaker 2: But like those four guys are the ones that there's

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Speaker 2: where there's a lot of motion, a lot of wiggle room,

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Speaker 2: a lot of ceiling.

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Speaker 1: And not a lot of floor. Yeah, and a guy

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Speaker 1: like Alvarez doesn't have to take as big of a

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Speaker 1: step forward if Marte, if McNeil, if Baity, like if

641
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Speaker 1: these other things in this lineup happened, and bringing in

642
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Speaker 1: Jady Martinez does also give Alvarez like a little bit

643
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Speaker 1: more cushion of like I'm not here to now be

644
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Speaker 1: the second best power hitter on this team, Like I'm

645
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Speaker 1: here to be like the six hitter, the five, whatever

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. He slots into the lineup with like

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Speaker 1: a little bit less pressure for the twenty two year old.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like there are still things even though I

649
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Speaker 1: just said they are a top ten offense that is

650
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: relying on it bounce backs and guys getting better. Like

651
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Speaker 1: Brett Bady. We love him on this podcast, but in

652
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: his four hundred major league get bats, he's been bad

653
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: and granty. He finished springs strong, he has look good.

654
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: We have all the faith in the world on him,

655
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 1: in him, and again maybe it's our faul for over

656
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: hyping guys, but he does have to play better, Like

657
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 1: it's been a black hole at third base for the

658
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons. Marte is Marte's that's the problem.

659
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I think that's the real problem right now with this lineup.

660
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: Harrison Bata Reknew is not gonna hit like at all,

661
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: pretty much anything that we get out of him as

662
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: a bonus because he plays such elite center field. But

663
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: right now we are in a world where I don't

664
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Speaker 1: know what Starling Marte does for this team to a

665
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Speaker 1: point where like, come may if he's if he's hitting

666
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: two ten and he looks terrible, Like how much longer

667
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: does he stay on the roster?

668
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 2: Realistically, he'll stay on the roster because you're I don't

669
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: know how much more dead money we're gonna eat. We're

670
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Speaker 2: finally getting out of all dead money, and we're just

671
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 2: gonna do it again right now, where it's like at

672
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: some point you might just have to humble him and

673
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: be like, hey, now like you're a Tyrone Taylor and

674
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 2: Tyrone Taylor's you, or now you're Trace Thompson and Zach

675
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: and Drew Gilbert is you like, because if Drew Gilbert

676
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Speaker 2: comes out and he hits for six weeks, he rips

677
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: a part triple A with all his college experience as

678
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: goes he was last year and everything he can bring

679
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: this team and like as an engine in that lower

680
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: but lower part of the order, it's like, it'll be

681
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: hard to keep him off the field. If you're if

682
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: you look at Starring Marte and you look at Drew Gilbert,

683
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, this one guy is better hither he

684
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: plays better defense, he tries harder. It's gonna be hard

685
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Speaker 2: to say, no, I'm gonna play the other guy who

686
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: does all those things worse like that. But we're not

687
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Speaker 2: there yet. We want to get there. I also, I

688
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: quickly wanted to call to attention two things that happened

689
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 2: happening this week for Mets Twitter. That one, our boy

690
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: Jordan hit me up. He's a he's a huge baseball nerd.

691
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Speaker 1: He loves bats. He loves bats.

692
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Speaker 2: Yes, and he sent me a DM about a week

693
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Speaker 2: ago and he said, I'm nerding out a bit. But

694
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Speaker 2: Jeff was using a proxer but not bad versus no,

695
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: not bad. The proxer typically increases bat speed, creates more

696
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: whip through the zone versus usual nodeknob, which is known

697
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Speaker 2: over being great for back control. It could just be

698
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Speaker 2: a one off at Brat spring training experiment, but there's

699
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Speaker 2: probably a deeper adjustment he's making up in general. He

700
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Speaker 2: choked up a crap ton last year since he was

701
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: using the thirty five thirty two so he had a

702
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Speaker 2: bigger barrel. I'm gonna try to find the size of

703
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Speaker 2: this one. And I said, please give me more bad

704
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Speaker 2: analysis whenever you have it. And then to the next

705
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Speaker 2: time ms and hit up Jeff and be like, did

706
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: you change your bat? You're doing something different, but then

707
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: the PROCs are bad, then hit me up. Yesterday Jordan

708
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: was like, update, now Jeff is swinging a bat with

709
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: a puck knob, so not watch on. Jeff McNeil like,

710
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: clearly that Jeff and Neil seems like he's making adjustments

711
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: to not watch it.

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Speaker 1: Say that we can't say aything we want. Sorry, it's

713
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Speaker 1: our UK viewers, what not watch me? That's true.

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Speaker 2: That's our second most popular country, which is awesome. We're

715
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Speaker 2: top He's always a top ten podcast in the UK,

716
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: so shadow UK listeners right there We love you guys,

717
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: you Darren especially, but I guess Rosie too. Maybe she's

718
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: tuning in once in a while, just not telling me.

719
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Speaker 2: But it sounds shallow, Rosie. It sounds like sometimes that

720
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Speaker 2: it sounds like Jeff might be making a concert contract

721
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: adjustment here. Tool. I want to hit the ball harther,

722
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Speaker 2: which is a good thing for Jeff because he could

723
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 2: probably can't control almost any single bat, like that's his thing.

724
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 2: But if he hits the ball hard, and he's had

725
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: had a couple more hard hit balls to spring and

726
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,880
Speaker 2: then second one. And it was in the Mets Twitter community,

727
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: it was on Mets Reddit. Yeah, Alvarez for life, Samuel Ovation,

728
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 2: Brett bay An opening day, some Mets fans were purpooing it.

729
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be here an opening day. If it's gonna

730
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Speaker 2: be there opening day, hit me out, loveless.

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Speaker 1: Know what, who's poop pooing it? Why would you poo

732
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: people like? Oh, people poo pooing it left and right.

733
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: It's cringe. That's not right. He never done anything to

734
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: deserve it. For fucking assholes, who this guy plays for

735
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: the team that you root for? Why do you not

736
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: everybody should get an opening an ovation on standy Oh

737
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: standing ovation on opening day, I was bat English. I

738
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: was getting so excited because I want to yell at people.

739
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: Haven't gotten a chance to yell at people in a while,

740
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Speaker 1: and I've got a lot to yell about today. But

741
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Speaker 1: why would you not want to give the kid a

742
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Speaker 1: standing ovation? He hasn't done anything. He's twenty four, he

743
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: hasn't had the opportunity he had four hundred at Bath.

744
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: He said, this kid fucking sucks. Fuck him. I'm not

745
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: gonna stand for this loser. What is wrong with you?

746
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: Why would you not want to give him the best

747
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: environment to succeed. Did you not see those fucking asshole

748
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: Philly fans stand in cheer for a Trey Turner and

749
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: see what it did for him? You think you're better

750
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: than those pieces of garbage down there in the asshole

751
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: of New Jersey? I mean, come on, like, what are

752
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Speaker 1: we doing?

753
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Speaker 2: Even Lindor made a comment, They're like, yeah, sometimes it

754
00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: definitely wears on us side a team when we get

755
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: booed on a ballpark, like, it feels really good to

756
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Speaker 2: be heared for.

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited to.

758
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Speaker 2: Just cheer my balls off for Brett Bailey on opening

759
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: day because he's doing it part of this team and

760
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: we need him to be good. Brett Bally being good

761
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: not only changes the outlook of the team in April

762
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: and May and June, but it will change the outlook

763
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: of this team in twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six,

764
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, because behind, behind Brett Bailey, that's it.

765
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: He's the third basement. That's why he's getting chances because

766
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: for a couple of years they're like, he's gonna be

767
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: our third basement, and looking forward, there's not another option

768
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: coming up here.

769
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 1: There's no real prospect to push him.

770
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: We've seen now what this organization thinks of Mark Fientos,

771
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: and it might be blessed in a lot of you

772
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: guys think of him, but it's not very highly So

773
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: it's just this is this is it? So without Brett

774
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: Bailey now, a big chunk of the spending money in

775
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: the next couple of years has to go to someone

776
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Speaker 2: who can play the third base.

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Speaker 1: You know where I want that money to go.

778
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Speaker 2: Wan So though pie Alonzo sober burns things that are

779
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: much more fun and much more exciting, rather than like

780
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Speaker 2: Alex Bregman's gonna hit twenty home runs for twenty eight

781
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: million dollars. Brett Baby being good is so important and

782
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: if as fans, if we even think that we have

783
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: like a three percent chance, a one percent chance to

784
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Speaker 2: impact that, how.

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Speaker 1: Cool that would be. We could make Baby we get

786
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: that's pride. I want to make Brett Bathy good and

787
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: that we're we're prepped.

788
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: This Bret Bailey podcast has been forever and always shout

789
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: out Brett Bailey, and we're gonna continue support him. But

790
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 2: that is I think him and Alvarez specifically are the

791
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Speaker 2: those are the guys if those guys and I guess

792
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: edwin ds because he just has to be back and

793
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: be himself and be everything we think you hope and

794
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: dreamed everything he looks like. But getting huge contributions from

795
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: Baby and Alvarez and again like a good step for

796
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: Baby is like one hundred WRC plus guy and not

797
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: making average bears like being Alec Bohe for Brett Bailey

798
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: makes this team like hell yes.

799
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Speaker 1: But look what being Alec Boum for the Phillies. He

800
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 1: went for being dog shit to be okay and they

801
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: were like we could win the World Series. I'm not

802
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: saying that's are there, but they Phillies. That's what changed.

803
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we probably need Wheeler and Nola for that to happen,

804
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 2: but like were your head sees totally yes, right right

805
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: right on the money there.

806
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Speaker 1: But like if baby becomes like.

807
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Speaker 2: A one ten, one fifteen WRC plus got twenty five runs,

808
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: if Alvarez hits thirty five home runs with a three

809
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: fifty on base percentage, we suddenly now it's two positions.

810
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: You know, we can say, Mets fans, you don't have

811
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: to think about them until forever, basically never think about it.

812
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: So until twenty thirty.

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00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 2: Literally, let's say, now we have two guys who are

814
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: free and good and fun and likable and awesome. And again,

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: Alvarez right now is significantly had a baby gaib. He

816
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: is different, like he has built. He's cut from a

817
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: different cloth. He could do things that nobody else can

818
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: on the baseball field. But those steps and even the

819
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: moderate steps league average for baty three twenty on base

820
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: percent from Alpharez, that's what we're shooting for. That's where

821
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: projections have them at. That's the fifty to the percentile

822
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: outcome we do that everything this team changes to get

823
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: not just this year but next year. The year after that,

824
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: the year after that, the year after that compounds and

825
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: keeps getting better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm, like I said earlier'm cautiously optimistic

827
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: about this team. And we've said it on every single episode.

828
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Speaker 1: Gonna be a lot of fun Mets baseball. If you

829
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: love baseball, this is going to be a baseball season.

830
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: And these are the little things that you'll be able

831
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: to watch on a day to day basis. See Brett

832
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Baty hopefully grow and get better as a player. See

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00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Francisco Alvarez turn into maybe one of the more elite

834
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: power hitters in Major League baseball. Maybe we see Tyler

835
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: and McGill take that step forward, Maybe Christian Scott might

836
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: fast Jose Buddo. They come up and they make an impact.

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Speaker 1: Like these are the things that while is not what

838
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: a World Series contender is necessarily looking for, Like when

839
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: you look at the braves of the Dodgers, that's not

840
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: they're not. Like, man, I really hope our young players

841
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: are okay, But like for a team like the Mets

842
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: that is on the fringe, that is the difference between

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00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: being a fringe team and being a playoff team for

844
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: them right now, and that's the kind of stuff that

845
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: we need to happen. And if you're a Mets fan

846
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: at home, fucking cheer for the team, please please cheer

847
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: for these kids. There's no reason if one of the

848
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: if they dog it, if they don't give a shit,

849
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: that's different. But they're busting their ass every single day.

850
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 1: And we did have the unique experience of being inside

851
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: the organization for a couple of years and seeing it firsthand,

852
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: and I can promise you there is nobody who doesn't care.

853
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: Everybody from the top down cares about winning, cares about

854
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: playing well, and especially these young guys like Brett Baty

855
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: and Francisco Alvarez. I think it means a lot to

856
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: them too. I mean, if this is their career, this

857
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: to make a break year for Brett Baty, he wants

858
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: to be a major League baseball player, show it and

859
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: I hope we can see that. Yeah.

860
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Well, Sam had a good piece on The Athletic on

861
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: Tuesday that he's very aware he's getting a second chance

862
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: just because he there's almost no replacement for him. It's

863
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: just like, I have to be better. He believes he'll

864
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: be better, and it does a lot of this start

865
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: with confidence. We talked like Brett Page, seemed like it

866
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: was a snowball.

867
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Last year.

868
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: It seemed like the bad defense went back in the

869
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: box with his bad offense and the bad box and

870
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: back in the field was bad defense. Probably seemed like

871
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: was supported very well by his coaches. He wasn't being

872
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: positioned well, he didn't have a great approach of the plate,

873
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: and everything just kind of went out of control as

874
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: the team spiraled.

875
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: And that was it.

876
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: But apart from those guys and the other things that

877
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: I think could like really catapult this team, be like

878
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: the media to take this team to the playoffs, like

879
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: and so all things that aren't that crazy if they happened,

880
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: Like with Louis Arena, there's one hundred fifty innings.

881
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: He's been so good this spring. He's been so good, awesome.

882
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: The new changeup is incredible, The slider's still awesome.

883
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: He's mixing in sinkers because the fastball shape isn't like

884
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: as the leads it once was, but still pretty good.

885
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: So it's like these are weapons against lefties, which was

886
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: his big struggle last year. Like that, it'd be like,

887
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm not it's so weird to them in a world

888
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 2: right now, I'm not even worried about the effectiveness of

889
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: Luis Severino Bliss. The hell, that's exactly what David Stern said,

890
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: like three months ago. We signed four months ago. Now

891
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: where David Stearns like says these things, and we'd probably

892
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: all listen to him a little more because seems like

893
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: he speaks a lot of truth and he's very uh,

894
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 2: he's very contrite, he's very articulate, and he's very exactly

895
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,959
Speaker 2: the way he speaks about this team and all this stuff.

896
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, we love Savarena stuff. It's just

897
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: a matter of health. And right now he's healthy and

898
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 2: we think we can keep him healthy.

899
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: Hey, b C. D. Bang Now we're we're opening day

900
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: and as of right now, as of recording, he still

901
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: definitely is. So let's just keep that thing going. What

902
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: if Like what if again all these bullpen.

903
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 2: Pieces that we've been just championing this offseason, Like what

904
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 2: if when Fujini comes back, it's all ready to go,

905
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: but at Brooks Rali another good year, Like what like

906
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: what if these things happened with Hory Lopez gets even

907
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: seventy percent of his form from two years ago, Like

908
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: if some of these guys click, if some of these

909
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: good things happen. Like maybe you don't want to hear

910
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: this fifth year Drew Smith with.

911
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: There's this little step, like what if he just throws

912
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: the fast balls and it is not boy, I want

913
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: to hear it, Drew. Yeah, I'm talking about the other people,

914
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: all the other people listening, you know, all the people

915
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: in the interwebs. But like they're they just some of

916
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: these guys, just a little bit of pop in that bullpen,

917
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: from this bullpen going from one that we're like, all right,

918
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: it's probably one of the bottom third bullpens in the

919
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: league that's being held up by the best closer in baseball.

920
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: Whether if it just becomes the twelfth best ballpen in baseball, baby,

921
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: that's all we want. Twelfth best, twelfth best, sixth best

922
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: in the National League, seventh best in the National League.

923
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: And we're storming towards the postseason. Maybe not storming, but

924
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: we are. We are drifting into a wildcard spot. Yeah.

925
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: I like to temper expectations and like when people ask me,

926
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: like you think the Mets are making the playoffs this year,

927
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: even in my season predictions video, I said, no, but

928
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: we've been too high. We've been too excited, like I

929
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: want to be surprised this year. I would love to

930
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 1: be wrong about the Mets not making the playoffs. And

931
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: right now, the projections do say that they're not gonna

932
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: make the playoffs with that eighty one wins, but as

933
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: we're telling you right now, they're so close and those

934
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: few things that could go right here, there, everywhere, whatever

935
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be, even some of the young guys that

936
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: we've mentioned that could come up, Like we've talked a

937
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: lot about the guys who are on the roster right now,

938
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: but even looking back, like at the minor league depth,

939
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: the Mets haven't had minor league depth like they have

940
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: right now in what twenty years, I mean ever in

941
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: our lifetime. I was talking with my dad about it

942
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: and shout out Stanley conswegra now grants that he's not

943
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: gonna make the majors this year. He's a far away

944
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: thing away. But my dad's like watching these the end

945
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: of these spring training games towards the end of the season,

946
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: like you've been used to the Mets having like these

947
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: like lifelong minor league lack of a better term, bums

948
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: that are like thirty three years old, go being like

949
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: getting their last chance getting a couple at bats. But

950
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: now you're seeing the Mets are like Ryan Clifford, Alex Ramirez,

951
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert, Jet Williams, like these are the guys who

952
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: are now getting the opportunities. They have real depth, especially

953
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: on the pitching side. There's a lot of depth there.

954
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: But back to Stanley conswegra some guy you've never heard

955
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: of hit the second hardest ball in all of spring training.

956
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: The whole thing pretty fucking sick, Pretty fucking sick for

957
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 1: like a guy who's now officially on the radar, even

958
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: like Toald of the opposite of what you said, but

959
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: in the same elk. Like even the boring thirty or

960
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: something year old guys, we have a trip a now,

961
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: are bet and they've been before.

962
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: JOm Man Troy took his out right assignment. That's a

963
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: major league baseball player. Jose Glacis took us out right assignment.

964
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: That's major league baseball player. Trace Thompson's down there. There's

965
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: a Zach Short made the team. But like even Viando's

966
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 2: down there, like, oh my god, someone just bumped to

967
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: us an ankle. Mark Van doesn't come up hit you

968
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: a home run when he runs into one he can.

969
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: And again same with that pitching, like it's Lukes's down there,

970
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: He's going to get innings this year. Vastal Hamil, Christian

971
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: Scott are all guys who have over one hundred and

972
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: fifty innings and there or at least one hundred twenty

973
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: innings in the upper miners, and they're all seem like

974
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: they can pitch at a Major League Baseball game today, tomorrow,

975
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: the next day if you need them to. This might

976
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: be the first time in literally our lives the Mess

977
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Triple A teams over five hundred, besides maybe twenty twelve

978
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: when they had like Wheeler and Harrvey on that team together,

979
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: where it's like, Okay, these guys can actually play a

980
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 2: little bit. But it's a real thing that we've never experienced,

981
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: and that's kind of boring shit that you guys are

982
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: probably like, this isn't super exciting, but those that's a

983
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: lot of times the difference between the teams that go

984
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: far and the teams that do not. Like the fact

985
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: that last year the Rangers the team that is a

986
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: weird case because it was so much happens developmenttally, and

987
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: so much happened with them in free agency but if

988
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: you look at that team, and you probably have some

989
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: of these guys' locker room, like how do we make

990
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: the World Series? They're like, man Dan Dunn and gave

991
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: us one hundred seventy clean innings, and we thought he

992
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: was such an afterthought in the offseason, a guy they

993
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: traded for who was bad from the White Sox and

994
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: he was bad with the Rangers, and he developed a

995
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 2: new pitch and a color and a two seamer and

996
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: he got a whole his game plan right, and suddenly

997
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: like he's pitching every fifth day for them, like things

998
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: like that to happen.

999
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: It's War of attrition. It's one hundred and sixty two games.

1000
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: So many people are gonna play in this team, and

1001
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna do a little draft at the end of

1002
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Towards the end of this episode, me and Mark and

1003
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: are gonna pick five guys each and the only things

1004
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: are gonna be scored on our play the appearances and

1005
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: innings pitched. Guys not in the twenty six men roster,

1006
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: no opening day, and then we're gonna figure out something

1007
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: for the winner and loser at the end of the year.

1008
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: But it's just like that's something that this team has

1009
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: not had in a while, and it's cool that we

1010
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: have that. But now we gotta talk about the other stuff.

1011
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: What could ruin this team, what's gonna make this team

1012
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: win seventy four games seventy three games? Because we talked

1013
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: about the positive, gotta talk about the negative because this

1014
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: team is definitely not without flaws. Team is not seam,

1015
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: is not without a low floor. Like things can probably

1016
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: go wrong for this team. I think the number one

1017
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: thing that would murder this team is if Coda Sanga

1018
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 2: has to get the full on row tailor cuff surgery.

1019
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: If he does not come back this season and misses

1020
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: part of the next that would be a knife in

1021
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: my chest. That would send me into a death spiral, truthfully.

1022
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, outside of like any like major injury, which like

1023
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: you can't always that's any team. Yeah, you talk about

1024
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 1: with any team like oh if if Aaron Judge breaks,

1025
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: which is like the Yankees are screwed. Yeah, of course,

1026
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: like you would be too if that was your team.

1027
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: So it's like Francisco and Door breaks is like that.

1028
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: It was his favorite comment that he told us last

1029
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: year that got cut from the interview. But uh yeah,

1030
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: like if Senga in terms of things that are like

1031
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: actually around right now. If Senga's arm is dead or

1032
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: whatever's going on there, not making the playoffs, it's probably

1033
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: not possible without him, and that would be a killer.

1034
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: There's no inclination that that's the case by any means.

1035
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: But as more and more days go on and we

1036
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: have no information, I can't pretend like I'm not a

1037
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: little bit worried, Like it definitely scares me that a

1038
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: guy who's so vital to this team, we don't really

1039
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 1: know much about what's going on, especially for the severity

1040
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: of what injury could be, like if he has to

1041
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: get rotator cuff surgery, Like I don't there's like twenty

1042
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: five percent chances we just saw the only good season

1043
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: he's ever gonna pitch in his major league career. Like

1044
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: this is what Sigelsanchres had and he missed five years.

1045
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Grant a different situation.

1046
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: But it's just like he's just coming back now as

1047
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 2: a chubby reliever where he was like a top prospect

1048
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen.

1049
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: But it's just rookie there he is. Watch him twenty

1050
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: saves for the Marlin Is.

1051
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: Check it out in your deep fantasy leagues, But it's

1052
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: just that it's on the tape and it was something

1053
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: that was a concern when the Mets sign him.

1054
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: That's why he was so cheap.

1055
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: People are like, can't believe he's fifty million dollars. Yeah,

1056
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: it's because there's provisions in his contract for elbow injuries

1057
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: like he's had. He's been nicked up before, and it's

1058
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: weird thing like it's not really being talked about right

1059
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: now because as Coda might be getting like rehabbing suit

1060
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: and throwing, the Mets have a clear incentive for him

1061
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: not to pitch as long as possible this year because

1062
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: he needs one hundred and forty it was or one

1063
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty innings whatever. This he needed four hundred

1064
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: innings in three seasons to have an opt out after

1065
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: a third year of his contract. So if he doesn't

1066
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 2: reach four hundred innings in three seasons, suddenly the mess

1067
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: just signed Cody Sanger to a two year, thirty million

1068
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: dollar extension. That is a really good reason to keep

1069
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: a guy. You know, Make sure you're good. Make sure

1070
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 2: you're good. June first, you'll All Star breaks, come back

1071
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: to the All Star break. Get to get you eighty

1072
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: innings this year, then we'll be okay. But there's ah,

1073
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 2: it was two hundred and forty things as well, so

1074
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: it's one sixty last year, he's two forty more for

1075
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: the option to offer the opt out to kick. That's

1076
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: a real reason for the Mess to be like, this

1077
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: isn't that special of the team. But maybe just this

1078
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: year a the innings take it easy a little bit.

1079
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: But again all probably is still to avoid the worst,

1080
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: which would be full on rotator cuff surgery would be horrible.

1081
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think that there's necessarily this grand conspiracy

1082
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: of like the Mets being co minion being like we

1083
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: need to limit his innings, but there's that's definitely something

1084
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: that is real and this is thought about probably at

1085
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: some point.

1086
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: Briefly, do want to say that the Mets officially released

1087
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: Phil Bickford today. I think that was the That was

1088
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: the roster move for JD. Martinez officially for the forty

1089
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: man roster, and the Mets did, yeah, port now for

1090
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: Phil Bickford, God but never forgotten. Same with Luke Voyd

1091
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: got cut, got goodbye, our following Jady King, our bicep King.

1092
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: But the Mets pulled the same bullshit that the Giants

1093
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: pulled to JD. Davis on Phil Bickford, where he won

1094
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: his arbitration case for.

1095
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: Nine hundred grand. He's walking out with a league minimum money.

1096
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: So that's like it's different because the Giants cut Jad

1097
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 2: Martinez where JD. Martinez, I keep doing JD. Davis where

1098
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: the Giants cut JD. Davis where JD. Davis should be

1099
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: on that roster. He's better than other people on that

1100
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: roster where Phil Bickford is worse, has performed worse. So

1101
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't hold it as much against the Mets. But

1102
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: sucks that the guy wins then arbitration case. But the

1103
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: contract's not antique as an arbitration victory's not a defeat

1104
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: and players unions can have to answer to this. But

1105
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: it's that that was a weird thing. I notice again,

1106
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a mess fault. He won the

1107
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: arbitration case, but he was always on the razor's edge

1108
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: of this roster. But the fact that does happen is

1109
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: like it's kind of crummy.

1110
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, super shitty. There's no doubt about that. He's gonna

1111
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: get picked up by someone else though, so he'll he'll

1112
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: get paid by somebody else, Like, it's not not the

1113
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: end of the world. They'll still be okay, Philly b

1114
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: for three times, never die that Phil Pickford will never die.

1115
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: Never gonna happen. But yeah, like some of the other

1116
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: stuff too, that could definitely derail the season a little

1117
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: bit too. The young guys that we mentioned being good.

1118
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: If Alvarez stays the same, if great, If Brett Batty

1119
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: stays the same, that that's gonna hurt because then that

1120
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: becomes I won't say the catching hole or catching will

1121
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: become a hole because he's still gonna give us twenty

1122
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: home runs. I think it is worst, and that's way

1123
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: better than we've had in a long time. But it

1124
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: will be very, very hard for Brett Baty to be

1125
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: a black hole at third base offensively, especially with a

1126
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: guy like Harrison Bader in the lineup. We expect little

1127
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: to nothing out of And if Starling Marte is not good,

1128
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: which is seems like real possibility. Yeah, and also if

1129
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: just if something doesn't click back with Jeff, I think

1130
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: it will because Jeff is always has this like he's

1131
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: like this, he's this pendulum that swings back and forth,

1132
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: and he plays baseball like he or any other what Yeah,

1133
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: big year even here, but very different than most other

1134
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: people play baseball even and in the last like twenty

1135
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: years of baseball in general. And I love Jeff and

1136
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: Emil Death.

1137
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: I'm happy he's like one of I think the seven

1138
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: guys under contract on this team for twenty twenty five

1139
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: right now, which is really hilarious to say out loud,

1140
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: but it's just there needs to be Again, I have

1141
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: those four guys. Two people basically have to take a step.

1142
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: Two people have to get to like a three four

1143
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: of the on base percentage, like the number I'll give

1144
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: for those guys, and then like then you're cooking. But

1145
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: if only one of them or none of them get

1146
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: to that point, suddenly this order is not very long,

1147
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: not as long as Mark would like it, and then

1148
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 2: now you're kind of in trouble after you get past JD.

1149
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: Martinez. Yeah, we know, I like it long. The other

1150
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: I think major elefant in the room to talk about

1151
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: is and you kind of hinted at it a little

1152
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: bit with seven guys under contract for twenty twenty five,

1153
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: is if the Mets are in that no man's lefe

1154
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: and not playing particularly great baseball, there's the real possibility

1155
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: that you start to trade off some pieces and one

1156
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: of those pieces would be Pete Alonzo. You have to

1157
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: assume you'd be someone that is considered I think Jeff

1158
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: McNeil is also someone that would be considered as that

1159
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: you'd be trade off, your trade off every single starting

1160
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: pitcher and bullpen arm that you could possibly get rid

1161
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: of as well. That would completely derail the season. Two

1162
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: is if they limp into that trade deadline and don't

1163
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: look kind of like they did last year. Like if

1164
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: you go hot into the trade deadline and you're like, oh,

1165
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: this team's starting to pick it up. Code I think

1166
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: is back, this is what they've been missing. I don't

1167
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: think they do that. But if you limp into it

1168
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: like they did last year, are they really a playoff team?

1169
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: Can they finish the second half of the season ten

1170
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: games above five hundred. That's something that I think the Mets,

1171
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: and we've now seen with proof of last year, they're

1172
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: not afraid to go ahead and make the moves to

1173
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: continue moving forward rather than attempting a hail mary shot.

1174
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: Even the opposite. It's a shitty reality, but we've seen

1175
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: teams that are in within playoff reach the last few

1176
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: years still se doesn't fit the front office's plan of attack.

1177
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't think the Mets would do this. I think

1178
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: the JD.

1179
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: Martinez signing is a signal that that likely will not

1180
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: happen unless things are like quite bad. Like I think

1181
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: if we're in no men's land, we might just not buy.

1182
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think we sell hard. We might sell

1183
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: something if something really good comes to the table. But

1184
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: two years ago, guy on this team, like we saw

1185
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: the Orioles who were in inopportunity to get a playoff

1186
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: spot for the first time in a decade since since

1187
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 2: the ghost of Buck Showalter left their dugout trade their

1188
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: closer at the time it was their closer. It was

1189
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: before the Felix Bautista awakening. And again it's ironic because

1190
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: that did happen. And the same with trade Mancinia, who

1191
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 2: was like an organizational hero since Trey Mancini he left

1192
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 2: the baltimorrioals. He has like a five hundred ops And

1193
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: that Jorge Lopez trade netted the Orioles Yen your Cano

1194
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: who's now become one of the five ten best relievers

1195
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: in all baseball. So things that that'll be something that'll

1196
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: be a real stress test for what this Mets fan

1197
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: base and the conglomerate think of David Stearns, because we've

1198
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: seen moves like that workout for teams. We've seen moves

1199
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: like that not workout for teams. A couple of years ago,

1200
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 2: remember in the Red Sox pulled Tommy fam for no

1201
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: reason when hein Bloom was really nervous about his job.

1202
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: But it's just there's there's this weird nomen's land the

1203
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: Mets are probably gonna exist most of the season, and

1204
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: we haven't. We just haven't been with David Stearns enough

1205
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: yet where we know he's gonna do. When he was

1206
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: with the Brewers and no Men's Land, there was a

1207
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: different budget. But a couple of years ago we traded

1208
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: Josh Hayter, which that was that did not go over

1209
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 2: well in Milwaukee. That kind of seemed like it was

1210
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: the beginning of the end for an era of prominence

1211
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee Brewers.

1212
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: But we just don't know. We haven't seen him do

1213
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: it yet. We haven't seen him try.

1214
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: But I don't I don't know if we dump sever

1215
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 2: Reno because he's pitching decent the deadline, that just gives

1216
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: Mike Vasol, Jose Budo, Christian Scott like full runaway for

1217
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: a second half like that that might just be a

1218
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: net neutral and we might have got a prospect out

1219
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: of it. But if we trade p Alonzo, I might

1220
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: throw a chair, like I don't know. There's like something,

1221
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: there's something, there's like something in between that where it's

1222
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: like I don't don't I don't know what's gonna happen.

1223
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: It's like definitely like it's like five percent of anxiety,

1224
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: but it's like totally overwhelmed by the excitement of opening day.

1225
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: It's just something that we haven't gone through season with

1226
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: this person leading base operations yet. We don't exactly know

1227
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: how he's going to act.

1228
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: No, we don't know, and we know that he will

1229
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: do what he considers to be the best move for

1230
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: the organization moving forward, because you know what, he's not

1231
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I don't think I don't think this is

1232
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna be a quick BBW situation where a couple of

1233
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: years and oh shocking, an agent is not a good

1234
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: general manager to lead an organization. Who saw that coming.

1235
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: We can all agree right that they only hired Brody

1236
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: to try and get a good deal on his clients, right,

1237
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: that was the only reason. No, it was because the

1238
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: one client was Jacob Grom. I think we all know

1239
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: that picially.

1240
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also I think that's probably sixty percent

1241
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: of it. But the other forty percent is the fact

1242
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: that the Wolponds were, for lack of a better term,

1243
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: stupid and some guy with slick hair and like the

1244
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: gift of gab walks in. It was like a hot

1245
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 2: shot with a nice suit. Yeah, Like you want to

1246
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: say what you will about Brodie van Wagon, Like we've

1247
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: been in a room with him before. The guy commands

1248
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: a room, Like he's a big guy. So he's got

1249
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: the suits on with the sneakers, with the white bottoms.

1250
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: He's a handsome guy. He's got the gel in the hair,

1251
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: like he he'll command the room and like he that's

1252
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: probably a cool moment to signal at the end of

1253
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: old baseball where it's like it just just just it's

1254
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: like kind of like like politics where it's like if

1255
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: you're if you're a tall, handsome dude, you could kind

1256
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: of do anything you want in the entire world, where

1257
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: it's like now you might need a n Ivy League degree,

1258
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: which is a good thing, for sure. But it's just

1259
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: like if I if I say the three right words

1260
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: to the right rich asshole, like I can suddenly have.

1261
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: Any job I want, totally, and I'm glad we're past it.

1262
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad we have the Harvard man who was what

1263
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: was it? His mind was poisoned by those people up

1264
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: in Boston and Harvard to trick him into trying to

1265
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: ruin the New York I believe that's said. Yeah, probably true,

1266
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: but almost definitely not.

1267
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: But almost I talked about I think we've basically mentioned

1268
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: every guy in the roster besides.

1269
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Maybe reliever or two.

1270
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 2: But I thinks, so just shout out, get that mentioned

1271
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: in for the episode shadow, I mean, bring him in.

1272
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: What will waiting for? Wait for Tommy Fam? Wait what

1273
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: hold on? Okay, I just want I want to throw

1274
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: us out there. Who will have a higher ops this season,

1275
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: Tommy Fam or Starling Marte. It see, if Tommy Fam

1276
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: gets a job, it's not even a question. Is Tommy Fan?

1277
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: I think the last five years?

1278
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 2: I think maybe I think it's maybe four the five

1279
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Tommy Fam higher ops to Starling Marte.

1280
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: Someone checked me on that.

1281
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: But next thing here, I want to talk. I want you,

1282
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: I want you to give a bold prediction for the

1283
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: Mets season. It could be record, it could be performance,

1284
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: it could be something that somebody does. But I want

1285
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: something bald. I want someone we're gonna put on social media.

1286
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: Wow, something bold? All right? I mean, like, is Pete

1287
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: I don't Pete hitting I'm not gonna pick this one,

1288
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: but is Pete hitting fifty home runs? Is that bold?

1289
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: Is that kind of a bold prediction? Yes, that's bold.

1290
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: That'd be a bold prediction. I just want to get

1291
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: my head in the space of what a bold prediction

1292
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: would be. I'm gonna go with that. The Mets. Oh,

1293
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be Mets score the most runs

1294
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: in the National League? What the fuck? The prediction? Bold prediction?

1295
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: That's that might be a little too bold. I don't

1296
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: think there's no chance of that happening, but let's try it. Yeah,

1297
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something much more chill.

1298
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: My mine was going to be that Lois Louis ever

1299
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: gonna theres one hundred and fifty innings with three five ERA.

1300
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: That was my bold boo. That's not that bold booms

1301
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: that could happen bold bold. Okay, fine, I'll give you

1302
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: a real bold one that if you want a real

1303
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: bold one, then this is actually what I think happens.

1304
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Nemo finishes in the top ten of

1305
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: MVP votes this season. That's bold. That's good. That's bold.

1306
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: That's bald. All right, let me think of another one. Then, uh,

1307
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: could you do a crazy one? Now, do a crazy one,

1308
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: because I did a crazy one and then I came

1309
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: back to James World. Now, go to Mark World now,

1310
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: and now.

1311
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna seem because you gave me the idea for

1312
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: exactly what you just said. But Sis Guildford's gets the

1313
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: MVP vote.

1314
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like it. I'll take it. That's good.

1315
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: Not not top ten MVP vote, top twenty five MVP. Yeah,

1316
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: on his baseball rift. You see you see MVP twenty

1317
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: three right there. You can't. You cannot talk to our

1318
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: our friend Tim Heally and tell him to just write

1319
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: him in for one at the end of it, at

1320
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: the end of the season. That doesn't count, if you're right,

1321
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: Tim Heely, So what who wrote him in? We know

1322
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: you had a little bit of ahoots. Okay, I'll do

1323
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: a little bit the goods I'll do.

1324
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: I'll do one more then, and maybe this is me

1325
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: showing my hand a little bit for the prospect your

1326
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 2: African have lay there. Drew Gilbert three hundred play appearances

1327
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: the major league team.

1328
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: Ooh, that is a bold one. I like that one

1329
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, so we got some clips now for

1330
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: TikTok and social media and everything. So got the bold

1331
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: predictions out there. What else we got to talk about

1332
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: here before? Or we just kind of do our own

1333
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: stuff and talk about a little bit of some good

1334
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: gambling picks. We did this a few years ago.

1335
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: It went well, Yeah, briefly, I want to talk about

1336
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: David Starns comments. We were just talking about Stearns would

1337
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: have made more sense, but just the fact that he

1338
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: it was it was like a joke about what we

1339
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 2: were talking about last week, that that dude un Reddit

1340
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: thinks he's like.

1341
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: Not really, he's not really a Mets fan. I want

1342
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: to find the exact quote.

1343
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 2: He basically just he was talking about how badly he

1344
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: wants to win with this team, being like, I've ruined

1345
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: for this team my whole life. I've I've lived this team,

1346
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: I've died with this team, and I've never seen a

1347
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 2: championship and a lot of people my age have also

1348
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 2: never seen a championship, and he was like, I want

1349
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: to be the ones to bring it here, like I

1350
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 2: want to create something that that happens, and like that

1351
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: got me going a little bit like I'm pretty excited,

1352
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: where I was just like, let's I want to see

1353
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: this ship too, David, Like I'm also I mean, we're

1354
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: not that different age of David Stearns, which is kind

1355
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: of fucked up to think about, but it's we just

1356
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: we want to do that.

1357
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: We really want to do that, and.

1358
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: He of specific specifically shout out David Starns for the

1359
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: JJ MARTINZ contract.

1360
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 1: Who shout out to David and Steve.

1361
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: It's a huge message to the guys in the club,

1362
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 2: which is what I was alluding to before. But it's

1363
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: just the fact that these guys want this shit like

1364
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: these are there are people in this club, clubhouse, locker room,

1365
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: and front office right now who really want this. Like

1366
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: I think a lot of baseball executives and this was

1367
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: like a big part of the Moneyball in the movie

1368
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: are just like has to be a little bit detached

1369
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 2: from their team because you have to sign these guys,

1370
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 2: cut these guys, trade these guys. Send these guys down

1371
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: and move them to guess them takeing like you have

1372
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: to do everything these guys. You almost have to treat

1373
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: them like just assets, raight other than people. But he

1374
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 2: wants this shit bad and we all want this really

1375
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: badly too, And maybe it doesn't happen twenty twenty four,

1376
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: but like there's there's a clear plan and this process

1377
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 2: as being put in place where I'm as confident about

1378
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: the mess team as I've been for at least a decade,

1379
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: if not longer.

1380
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: I got a hot take about Pete's comments right for this, Yeah,

1381
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: I think I think Pete showing his hand a little bit.

1382
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I think Pete wants to stay here, and I think

1383
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: for sure the Mets signing JD. Martinez for Pete goes, oh, like,

1384
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good. They're not gonna trade me at

1385
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: the deadline because we got good players. Now we're gonna

1386
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: we're trying to win. That means I'm gonna stay here.

1387
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: I think Pete's like, how can I please, for the

1388
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: love of God, how do I stay in New York

1389
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: City as long as possible? I don't want to go

1390
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: to fucking Cincinnati or wherever. He would get shipped off

1391
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: to he would be Anaheim, the only option of be Anaheim.

1392
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, that's true. I don't think that's untrue.

1393
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,479
Speaker 2: And like, depending how this year goes, we've toyed around

1394
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: the idea of having like predicting the twenty twenty five

1395
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: and that's opening day roster episode. If the team's good,

1396
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: we probably won't get to that point, but if the

1397
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: team's bad, we definitely will get to that point. So

1398
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: you guys look at being looking out for that. But

1399
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: there's just there's so much fluidy with this roster right now.

1400
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: There's so many things that can happen. There's so few

1401
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: guys on their contract. The way that Sterns has built

1402
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: this team intentionally this year is that do you can

1403
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: move in any direction at any moment you want. There

1404
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: are almost no long term commitments that he's specifically assigned,

1405
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: and it's just that whatever happens next kind of has

1406
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: a lot to do with what happens now. Like I

1407
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 2: think there's a general five year plan put in place,

1408
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: but I think this is someone who's flexible, who will

1409
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: take who will take things other people say to heart,

1410
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: and that things will will and can change depending on

1411
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: how this team performs this year, especially the young players,

1412
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be the Skier is gonna be bout.

1413
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: Trew Gilberts giving bebou Christian Scott's gonna be a Mike Vassel,

1414
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: dom Hamil Jose Budo somewhat still not young anymore, but

1415
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: still guys who are arbitration eligible, Tyler McGill, David Peterson,

1416
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 2: possibly Jet Williams, possibly Louis on Helicunya. All this shit

1417
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 2: is in play right now, and I think it's really

1418
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: relevant to this, to the future of this team.

1419
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: Listen. We know David Stearns listens to this podcast. David,

1420
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this current episode, I'm sure you are,

1421
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: as you always are for every episode, because you've seemingly

1422
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: done and agreed with us on almost everything that we

1423
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: ever say on here. But maybe the next time you

1424
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: talk to the press you sneak in like, oh, I

1425
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: had a great papaya for lunch or for breakfast, whatever

1426
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: it is. If you throw that into conversation, that'll be

1427
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: our little nod that you know we're listening, that you're

1428
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: listening to the best of the podcast. That being said,

1429
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: you probably should turn it off. Now, David, because we're

1430
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna talk about a little bit gambling, and we know

1431
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: you can't do that. So I went out and I

1432
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: found some player props, some futures again from an unnamed

1433
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: sports book until they pay us. There's not that many

1434
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: for the Mets because there's just not that many players

1435
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: that you can really figure out how much they're gonna play.

1436
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: But the big names are all involved. And here are

1437
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: some of my favorites that I like in terms of

1438
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: crazy bets. I really like Nimo as the runs leader

1439
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: at plus five thousand. If he has a three sixty

1440
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: three seventy on base with Lindor Pete and Jad Martinez

1441
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: sitting behind him, plus five thousand, sprinkle ten dollars on

1442
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: their win five hundred. That to me feels like a

1443
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: really really fun bet that you could like not really

1444
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: sweat over.

1445
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh very honestly, I'm responsibly going to bet that after

1446
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: this episode.

1447
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: That's an amazing one. That's up there with me. That's

1448
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: up there with my logan Gilbert lead the league and

1449
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: wins seventy five to one bet.

1450
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: That's that's my favorite. I've every placed in my life

1451
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: doesn't win. I'm just I'm addicted to that to talking

1452
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: about that bet. But otherwise I think my favorite one

1453
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: on the board, just because of attrition is probably Edmund

1454
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: Diaz to lead the league in saves the way that

1455
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: we're seeing closers drop like flies. Your boy, Paul Seawall's injured,

1456
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 2: Jouant Duran's injured, someone else kind of injured to close

1457
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: this weekend. But Josh Williams broke his back. Yeah, Devin

1458
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: Williams broke his back, David Bednight's dealing with a back.

1459
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: He's healthy for opening Day. Just most of the uppershaunt

1460
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: of closers in baseball are not healthy to start the year,

1461
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: which I send fancy baseball drafts pure tizzy and also

1462
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 2: the other guys on Edwin's level, I think you would

1463
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: say Josh Haither, who I'm I feel like the Astros

1464
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: have so many options that they're probably just not gonna

1465
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: use him as traditional closer. I'm sure he's there to

1466
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 2: buy in. And the fact that they have Ryan Presley

1467
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: and Brian and bred you who are along with Josh

1468
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 2: Haither three of I think the ten best relievers and

1469
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 2: all of baseball, like there just might be some ninth

1470
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 2: things that he pitches the EIGHTHI set of the ninth

1471
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: because those who are righty's and he's a left team,

1472
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 2: you might just need to get a tough lefty out.

1473
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: But Edwin is the closer right now who is like

1474
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 2: the most obvious to save every game because the Mets

1475
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: don't have a very good next option in terms of closing,

1476
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: they find relievers, they've no one else even in his

1477
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: stratosphere to take ninth inning for him, depending on the

1478
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: way game works out. And again, this team's gonna be

1479
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 2: in a lot of close games. We're gonna play good defense,

1480
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna get some timely hits. We're gonna pitch reasonably well,

1481
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 2: I hope most of the time. Like that's someone who

1482
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: do you remember if those Edwin ohs were the top

1483
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: in the league for the most safe, No, that was third,

1484
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 2: I believe. I believe Classe and Hater were ahead of him,

1485
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 2: and then I think he was third. Yeah, so again

1486
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: I think that he's gonna just have more save opportunities

1487
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: those guys because Class A, that team with the Guardians,

1488
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: shout out James dol Cousin. Wow, Well it just crazy

1489
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: that they'll never spend a cent because for the good

1490
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: core they always have and have again Chase the law.

1491
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: They're in the minor leagues.

1492
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: He was like the best hitter in spring training, so

1493
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: they can have Estevon Florielle on their opening day roster.

1494
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: It's just disgusting, but some of the way these teams,

1495
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: these people run these organizations. Thank God again, we have

1496
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: known Agela manager who the week before the season, the

1497
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 2: team has middling expectations, They're like, let's bring in an impact.

1498
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: That.

1499
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: Grateful for that Mets fans, but otherwise just it's a

1500
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: lot of over runners for our stars. I think that

1501
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 2: those over under bets are like scary to bet because

1502
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 2: you're basically just betting on people's health. But in terms

1503
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: of the numbers, they all look relatively docile.

1504
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, like Alvarez is twenty two and a half home runs,

1505
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: fully expect him to hit more than that. Like I'm

1506
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: an over guy on that Francisco indoor twenty seven and

1507
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: a half home runs. I actually think that this might

1508
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: be the best line just because like, hitting thirty home

1509
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: runs is a lot and I don't really I'm not

1510
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: like Lindor has to hit thirty home runs. Oh if

1511
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: he hit twenty seven and did the exact same thing

1512
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: as he did last year. Sign me up, gonna be

1513
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: a great season. That one feels tough. Then you have

1514
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: Pete at forty two and a half home runs. I

1515
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: think should be over as long as he's healthy and he,

1516
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: you know, continues to do what he does. These are

1517
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: the ones I like here. I like the RBI stuff,

1518
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: Pete said, RBI leader for the MLB eight fifty, and

1519
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: we mentioned that right now at the top of the order,

1520
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: the Mets do have two guys who get on base

1521
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: at a very high clip with brand Nemo and Francisco Lindor.

1522
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: I really like that one as well. At plus eight fifty.

1523
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: He's like kind of like in that top five, top

1524
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: ten range, I believe in terms of other MLB players,

1525
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: and to be fair, a lot of the other guys

1526
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: at the top, they have a lot of guys to

1527
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: spread around with. Like the Braves, there's always so many

1528
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: RBIs that Braves lineup can have because they have seven

1529
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: guys who are gonna drive everybody in. Matt Olsen's gonna

1530
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: take away from Austin Riley, who takes away from Ronald Acunya.

1531
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: The Dodgers, like these lamps are loaded differently than the

1532
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Mets lineup is.

1533
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 2: Last year, the Mets again objectively had a very bad season,

1534
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 2: and Pete objectively had probably the worst year of his career,

1535
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: and he was second off baseball on RBIs. There it is,

1536
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. I think the year before he

1537
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: was also second, but behind Aaron Judge. Like we're just

1538
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 2: and again like he's in a contract year. Guys, he's

1539
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: gonna want to play every single day. Now he's going

1540
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: to be into three hole. So like we talked about

1541
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: more opportunities for guys to be on base ahead of him.

1542
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: That's it's every first hitting he's coming up. It's the big,

1543
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: big time. He's gonna have more bats, more opportunities. I

1544
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: think I like that one a lot too. It's just

1545
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 2: awesome with a Kunya is the horrifying one. And also

1546
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: just I think Andy Astro, But why not maybe maybe

1547
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: Judge Judge with you know, with one Swogo and laboratories

1548
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: ahead of him.

1549
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: But he'll get hurt.

1550
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: He's already hurt. Like something will happen in the Aaron Judge.

1551
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 2: Nick Castlianos was eighth in league in RBIs last year.

1552
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: What the hell? How did that even happen. He had

1553
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: a horrible year. He had a horrible year too. He

1554
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: wasn't even good.

1555
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: It's also having a horrible spring. Terrible, but it's it's

1556
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 2: weird why again. But yeah, otherwise it's hard. It's hard

1557
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: to bet these full season over unders. But if I

1558
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: had to do it, I like doing these ones. Where

1559
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: like to lead the league so I can bet a

1560
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: little less. Forget the juice back so that Nemo runs.

1561
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: That's sexual, and the p RB I think is also fun.

1562
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: Pete and Edwards, I think those two guys probably should

1563
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: have first or second best odds, but they probably have

1564
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: something like you said, edwin three and Pete like four

1565
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: or five.

1566
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: That's value. No, those are definitely good ones. And then

1567
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: you got Mets one and a half wins. That's the

1568
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: one that's like, god damn it, I'm taking the over

1569
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: because we're bets fans. But oh man, what a good

1570
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: line that was. They don't even give us eighty one

1571
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: wins as a win. That's a loss. That's a killer.

1572
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's also funny.

1573
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 2: I think these sports books get Sharper and Sharper is

1574
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: to get more and more embedded in society. Shoutout show Hey,

1575
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: shout out John tae Porther. And like the fact that

1576
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: the Mets wins hole is exactly basically what baseball perspective

1577
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: and fangrass has us at. It's kind of a funny.

1578
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: It's almost a not to them that Vegas, like we

1579
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: got football, basketball, baseball. You nerds have this shit so covered,

1580
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: and then nerds in baseball APIs so covered. It's the

1581
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: absolute best thing in the world. But my favorite on

1582
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: the board, like you said, the crazy one Nimo runs either,

1583
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: but then the pet one hundred eight and a half rbisked.

1584
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 2: You want to play something safe, like just drop two

1585
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: yuns to get one back in October, get ready for

1586
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: football season, Like that's that's I think is the way

1587
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: to play that.

1588
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: Like that, get ready for football season, drop two, get

1589
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: one back.

1590
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: That's well, that's what I'm saying because that's what you

1591
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 2: would do right now, because like if you make a

1592
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 2: full season bet like this, you're getting this back week three,

1593
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: week four, week five, the NFL season, Like that's going

1594
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: right to your bank roll for football, So that's kind

1595
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: of what you're doing. I almost use future sometimes with

1596
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: gambling responsibly as a way to like have a low

1597
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: have like it's like my gambling CD, my gambling mutual

1598
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 2: funds where I'm just like, I'm gonna put like twenty

1599
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: dollurs into this future. I think I'm really confident in

1600
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 2: it has like even odds, like it is with lind

1601
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: Door last year. I'm like, he's gonna get this hit number.

1602
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 2: And I sweated through the whole last two weeks of

1603
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: the year. And I did it two years ago. Chris

1604
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: Cryer under in total goals. Yeah, I remember when I

1605
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 2: made that beat those That was a different time. That's

1606
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: kind of sad I talk.

1607
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: About now, but.

1608
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Just like put a little bit down then, like oh

1609
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: you get a little gift in your account, Like when

1610
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: when when when everything comes back?

1611
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: Texas Rangers win the World Series?

1612
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: Boy smacked that one at last year I had a

1613
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: Nuggets win the Championship. I'm gonna go futures. I got

1614
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: confident my baseball futures this year. But a lot of

1615
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: fun stuff from the Mets. We got lost stars and

1616
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: meld this line up now quickly a few minutes. I

1617
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: want to do with you five guys each, I played

1618
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 2: appearances and innings pitched for this team. We're gonna keep

1619
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: track of this this year, and I want to talk

1620
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: about we said we're gonna do a home run derby

1621
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: pool with the guys. Fan tracks kind of kind of

1622
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 2: dicked me. I still love fandracks as an account, but

1623
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: I was unclear of the way that the rules were made.

1624
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: I probably need to talk to a developer ahead of

1625
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: time to get like a sponsored league tried to.

1626
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm like that.

1627
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: Next year, we got our boy Nick Kohle right now

1628
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: working on a Google sheet that'll be much smaller because

1629
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: I'll have to do this by hand, so we'll probably

1630
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: only get like fifty maybe one hundred people in it.

1631
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: But look out for a link either Tuesday or Wednesday

1632
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: or Thursday morning if Nick can set me up with

1633
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: a set me up with a v look up in time.

1634
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 2: But otherwise we're just gonna do this if you guys

1635
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 2: stay engaged, because Met's have a lot of players in

1636
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: my leagues that were excited about we're gonna get chances

1637
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: this year. Mark and I are gonna take five vat

1638
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: right now quickly, so I thought of it, so I'll

1639
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: give you.

1640
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: The first pick. Why are you gonna give me the

1641
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: first pick? In terms of players, I'm just gonna steal

1642
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: the guy that you thinks to get three hundred. Wait,

1643
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: does Jadie Martinez count? He counts, But I think that

1644
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: I think that would be foul play. If I gotta

1645
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: be honest. Okay, okay, okay, so you are right, call me,

1646
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: then I will agreement. Yeah, gentlemen's agreement. We will not

1647
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: be taking jad Martinez or like the actual real major League.

1648
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: If there's anybody else on there, I'm gonna go. I'm

1649
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: gonna get started offensively because we're doing plate appearances and

1650
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: innings pitched, right, yes, Okay, so, oh man, that is tough. Wow,

1651
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Drew Gilbert. Give me Drew Gilbert. Let

1652
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: me take him off the board for you. Yeah. I

1653
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: think You're is the absolutely is the best first pick.

1654
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: So then I'm gonna do that.

1655
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 2: To come back at you, I'm gonna double up on pitching.

1656
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm going Christian Scott.

1657
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: Mike Vassal. Oh, okay, okay, Christian Scott, Mike Vassal. I

1658
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: I was looking. I was really hoping you were gonna

1659
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: leave one of them. I knew you weren't leaving Christian Scott.

1660
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: I was hoping you're gonna leave Vassal, I will take

1661
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: uh the butt man himself. I'm gonna go Jose Budo

1662
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: as my next picks. I'll be pick number two, pick

1663
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: number three. Where are we going here on this one?

1664
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Give me Mark Vientos, Give me

1665
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: Mark Vientos. I'm all about it. I hoped I was

1666
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: gonna sneak him with the next pick. I got to

1667
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: look at this now.

1668
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: It's also relevant because we saw the Mets the other

1669
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: day put out there where everyone's gonna be reporting and

1670
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: some very cool things that uh, that Ryan Clifford's gonna

1671
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: be with Double A, that Colin Hawke and Marco Vargas

1672
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: are gonna be in Hi A, that Jeremy Rodriguez is

1673
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: gonna be with Saint Lucy. Last exciting things with this,

1674
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: with this Mets team right now, where these minor leaguers

1675
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: could really start shooting up. Soon we'll do some more

1676
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 2: prospects of especially this year.

1677
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: Year.

1678
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: We're working on trips to Binging and Syracuse to talk

1679
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: to these guys. So you guys can hear that. But

1680
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm stalling the other picking now. This is gonna be

1681
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 2: the weird one. Yeah, yeah, I really want a Viana.

1682
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: So we're gonna let Vanto's go I might.

1683
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,479
Speaker 1: Oh, I think that one of the guys I'm gonna

1684
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: take is going to be don't do it. I'm gonna

1685
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: take Joey lookazy. Okay, that's that's an obvious one. Yeah.

1686
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: And then I'm.

1687
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: Basically right out of the sign between infielder and outfielder. Okay,

1688
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: And I think that is I'm gonna wind up going

1689
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,959
Speaker 2: with this is such good podcasting right now.

1690
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: Good podcasting, Yeah, good casting.

1691
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: Ose Glaciers infielder okayse Glaciers.

1692
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: So you've got four picks now right, Yeah, because of

1693
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: this will be my four and five. And I think

1694
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add a wrinkle to this. We're gonna do

1695
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: one wild card pick, and it has to be someone

1696
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: who's in Double A or lower. I think that has

1697
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: to be Okay, I want Okay, I'm gonna take Austin Allen.

1698
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take enough Canda hitting in the miners, Austin Allen.

1699
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: I think that could be a I think that could

1700
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: be a real real sharp pick right there. And then

1701
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: on the way back from my last pick of the

1702
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: Triple A draft, essentially, oh, I mean I said it

1703
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: earlier in the year that I think he's gonna get

1704
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: a shot at some point. I'll take Louise on Helicunya.

1705
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: I think he might look at some point.

1706
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: All right now, so again with that, then I'll take

1707
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: my other triple A guy, Trace Thompson. And then from

1708
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: my guy, this is gonna be a sneaky one from

1709
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: my guy below.

1710
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: Oh is he below? Is he were pointing triple A? Oh?

1711
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: He was gonna do Nate Lavendar. I forgot about Nate Lavender.

1712
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh he's triple A. That would have been a good pick.

1713
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: We almost should go back, and I gotta take over

1714
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: over over Trace Thompson, just because it's better for the podcast.

1715
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: Probably have Nate Lavendar. Nate Lavender is my last one.

1716
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: And then next one sneaky, sneaky, sneaky, snaky.

1717
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: Paul Travas, Ooh, Paul Travas, Dude, we were on the

1718
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: same wavelength here of thinking about relievers, of going with

1719
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: the reliever route for the guy. Is your face gonna

1720
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: be triple A? Though? Is he double A?

1721
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1722
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: Let's check.

1723
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: If if you want to look, if you want to

1724
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: if you want to kill me right now, you can

1725
01:05:58,800 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 2: kill me I'm looking.

1726
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wanta, I wanna, I wanna. I've raised

1727
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: a question. I'm concerned about that pick. Oh my god,

1728
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: we both like we we both know we both screwed

1729
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: this up so badly. We left. We left a pretty

1730
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: good one down there. We left a good one down there. Oh,

1731
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: neither of us took shintaro. I think I think that's

1732
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: a handshake agreement to a notion.

1733
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think your vease gonna be tripleized. I

1734
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: gotta take that one back.

1735
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: Damn. Okay, welcome back, welcome back. Who do you want

1736
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: now instead? I don't even know.

1737
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a weird one, all right, it's just

1738
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 2: a pure forty man roster pick. This is a strange one.

1739
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: Alex Ramirez ooh, okaying double A. But he's on the

1740
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: forty man roster. I gotta look at the forty man

1741
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: real quick now too. I didn't even think about taking

1742
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: a look at the Mets forty man roster to see

1743
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: who's in double A. Take the last one in double A,

1744
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: the only one double in the roster. Okay, that's gonna

1745
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: be tough. It's oh yeah, just not forty man. You

1746
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: can take. Yeah, I know, I'm thinking about Jet. I'm

1747
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: thinking about I really I want to take like a

1748
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: weird reliever, Like I don't know why, we've been seeing

1749
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: a lot of Wilkin Ramos. I don't know if he's

1750
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 1: any good, but we've been seeing a lot of Wilkin

1751
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: Ramos recently in those spring training games. Uh, you know what,

1752
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna I'm gonna take Jet, give me Jet Williams.

1753
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: I'll take him. As we gotta go sex. You can't

1754
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: go Wilkin Ramos. I might not even be on the

1755
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: team to start the year. Who knows. All right, good stuff,

1756
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: but this is the first time going over an hour

1757
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: in a while, and it feels cool.

1758
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: Seasons about to start. Happy word, We're finally here. We're

1759
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 2: finally in baseball. I'm so excited for baseball.

1760
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: Guy.

1761
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 2: I put out two monster Twitter threads on Tuesday just

1762
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 2: about like all the cool things at spring training, and

1763
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: I was just like.

1764
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: It's still not enough, Like I want to real baseball.

1765
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: I want to talk about pitch sequencing and fucking pitchers

1766
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 2: and sliders and stuff. But I mean, hey, like, if

1767
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 2: you guys made this whole hour, shout you guys, last

1768
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 2: thing we want to talk about briefly for a second.

1769
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna want to talk about like Mets Twitter,

1770
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about I think just like a little

1771
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: bit of our plan too. I know we said briefly

1772
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: at the beginning, but like if you guys want to

1773
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: just hear like thought process about like everything that's going

1774
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: on with us and what's happening, we'll probably just kind

1775
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 1: of have that conversation live with you, because why not.

1776
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: We want to keep you in the loop. But yeah,

1777
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: something interesting happened on met Twitter today. Shout out Grant

1778
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: Jenny Mets. He basically deactivated Twitter account. We know that

1779
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: he's going on to work in baseball and other places

1780
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: right now, so he just doesn't have the time, and

1781
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure he doesn't really want to take care of

1782
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: that while he's trying to actively get jobs and work

1783
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: for you know, baseball teams. It's working working, working full

1784
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: time for social media gi It's very hard. I've done it.

1785
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 2: It's it's very demanding you do a lot of these

1786
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: minor league teams they don't they don't give a ton

1787
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,639
Speaker 2: of support, but they give you an opportunity.

1788
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what he's doing, which is great. Yeah,

1789
01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: and unfortunately for Jenny Mets, he has become a bit

1790
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: of a punching bag in the Mets community, and I

1791
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: think it's unwarranted. I understand why people do it, because Grant,

1792
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: we love you, but you definitely have at times taken

1793
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: content and not giving credit, and you've acknowledged it, You've apologized,

1794
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: and I think that's all you can ask for. It's

1795
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,560
Speaker 1: fucking Twitter. It's not that serious at the end of

1796
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: the day. And to be fair, everybody else on Met

1797
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: Twitter would do the exact same thing if they were

1798
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: in his position. So everybody who thinks they're holier than now,

1799
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: I think you should take a look in the mirror.

1800
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: That being said, he put out tweet basically saying like

1801
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: he's ending his account, thank you for the great experiences,

1802
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: great time, a lot of great memories, all that good stuff. Bittersweet.

1803
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: It's awesome He's going on to better, bigger things. But

1804
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: also it sucks because he built something up and he

1805
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: really seemed to enjoy it, and he really is genuinely

1806
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: diehard Mets fan, really good dude. That being said, there

1807
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: was some tweets put out specifically by the New York Mets,

1808
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: which I think were in bad taste, and I just

1809
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: it left a bad taste in my mouth. And we

1810
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: whatever our platform is, grants a friend of ours, whether

1811
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: you like him or not. I don't think that was

1812
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: right what the Mets did, and I think I think

1813
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a low blow for someone who,

1814
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, has been relatively nothing

1815
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: but positive to the Mets as a whole Mets community,

1816
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: Mets fan base. Whether you like him or hated for

1817
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: stealing the content, who gives a shit. It's it's Twitter.

1818
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: It's not that serious.

1819
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 2: It's just when you're a multi billion dollar organization and

1820
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: your season is about to start to punch down, is

1821
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: just kind of rude.

1822
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: It's just it's just really not right.

1823
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of disrespectful, and it kind of like, I

1824
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just and and it's even more ironic

1825
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: because like we we we've been again, we've been inside.

1826
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 2: We know a lot of people work at social media,

1827
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 2: but their Twitter has always been kind of like just

1828
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: a very bland, plain thing. It's like they do birthdays,

1829
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 2: they they they talk about some podcasts besides ours. They

1830
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 2: will do they will do they'll do call ups and

1831
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: call downs, official roster moves and it for for an

1832
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: account with over a million followers, it gets relatively middling engagement.

1833
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: So then when you see that their most engaged tweet

1834
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: in months, million impressions, it's them taking a shot at

1835
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: a twenty something year old content creator who again again

1836
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 2: like I don't think Grant, it's not like Grandpa, none

1837
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 2: of this on himself. Like there, he had stolen content before,

1838
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: he hadn't give him credit. He started giving more credit now.

1839
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: But it's like for them to punch down someone like that,

1840
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: especially when I don't know like they like they Grant

1841
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: knows some people run those Twitter accounts too, and it's

1842
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 2: just like that's its personal. It's disrespectful, it's mean, and

1843
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: it's just it's just like everybody else is just someone

1844
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: trying to do something out there. Again like again, I

1845
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: don't think he did it the right way. All the time, Grant,

1846
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 2: you're listening, you're the man, You're still a friend. I say,

1847
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: two separate texts, say congratulations for the job you got,

1848
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: and then oh my god, like that's the yeah, you

1849
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: want to take us. They stay so above so many things,

1850
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: and this is the one you decide to take your

1851
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 2: shot out.

1852
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, at the end of the day, love him,

1853
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: hate him, I don't think that this was right. And

1854
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: then the thing that kind of really set me off

1855
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: and again disappointed, disappointed because we know everybody and this

1856
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel on brand. It doesn't feel right, It

1857
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't really make sense. The Mets started liking

1858
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: the tweets about trolling him, and I was like, that's

1859
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: that feels easy. What did you do to deserve this?

1860
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: That's so mean. All he is is a Dieharden Mets

1861
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 1: fan who made some tweets that people got upset about

1862
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,839
Speaker 1: because he used their content. If that makes you worthy

1863
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: of punching down with from a billion dollar organization, that's

1864
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: a little upsetting to me. I think the people on Twitter,

1865
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: they have every right to punch up. Everybody's punching up.

1866
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: He's got seventy thousand followers, which is fucking hard, by

1867
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: the way, on Twitter to build up that kind of following.

1868
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: Shout out to him. Fucking organizations around baseball should be

1869
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: interested in hiring this kid, because he did it from

1870
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: the ground up. But for the team to then punch

1871
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: down and then like the tweets of the people making

1872
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: fun of him, and just like we we also.

1873
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: Know because again, like we said, Grandson, massive mess fan,

1874
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: he built up this following, built up his account in

1875
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: a very impressive way just because of how much he

1876
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: loves the team and how he's every time there's news,

1877
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 2: he's on it in moments like that's what you need

1878
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 2: to build account like that, and it's like you're addicted,

1879
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: You're obsessed with the team, and we know from the

1880
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 2: inside the awkwardness of where there's a team you love,

1881
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,599
Speaker 2: but then there's another relationship with it that you don't

1882
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: like very much and it's a weird thing. I even

1883
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 2: just like again now we've talked about his podcast a

1884
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 2: little bit more before we go, like I have some

1885
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 2: weird feelings, like going in Opening Day this week, like

1886
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: going into that stadium for the first time in a

1887
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 2: couple of years, like without being that's like I know,

1888
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm not being not welcomed in. But before it was

1889
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: like we could walk in, we're saying hi to people,

1890
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: were like we were part of the fabric. And then

1891
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: it just kind of happened quickly and unceremoniously that we

1892
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: weren't anymore. And now other things happened as incident that

1893
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 2: made it weirder for us. It's just it's a strange feeling.

1894
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 2: So like for I feel for granted I'm talking kind

1895
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 2: of to him right now, but just for the team

1896
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: that you love and that you've put so much into

1897
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: your life and that gives you so much positive emotion. Again,

1898
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: like the Mets, Like, fuck the Mets half the time

1899
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 2: because they they'll hif choked, They've blown leads, they've had

1900
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: horrible seasons, but like the still we still a love

1901
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: the Mets because they're the Mets.

1902
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: Like I get that's it.

1903
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 2: Likes as bad as they've been before and as disappointed

1904
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 2: as they've made me on the field and front office stuff,

1905
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 2: not nothing now like the old old regimes, you know,

1906
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: Bridy Van Wagman from the Jim fucking Jim Duquat, Steve

1907
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: Phillippond or how Willie Randolph with the will Ponds. It's

1908
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: like listen, go on and on and we were we're

1909
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 2: in our late twenties, Grants in his early twenties. But

1910
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: it's just like you have to be able. It's been

1911
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Speaker 2: hard for me and for us like to separate what

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Speaker 2: happened and what they still are. And like that was

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Speaker 2: something I was worried about. Is this was all happening

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Speaker 2: last few months and we talked about it a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's just maintaining like the joy and like frivel of

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Speaker 2: baseball watching and Mets fandom and even for us in

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Speaker 2: Grant's content creation, when do you feel like there was

1918
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Speaker 2: something weird that happened and Grant case something like they

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Speaker 2: handled us much more respectfully than they did Grant where

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Speaker 2: this is like, way does really just really mean to

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Speaker 2: him and I it's got to be hard emotions for

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Speaker 2: him and I just if he ever if you want

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Speaker 2: to reach out, like let me know, im down to talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, definitely. And in terms of like what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing with the podcast this year, I

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Speaker 1: know we talked about briefly still keeping everything with the

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Speaker 1: same series, Gonna still be going to games. I mean,

1928
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Speaker 1: the tickets are gonna be cheap, Like it's they had

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Speaker 1: hard time selling out when the team was good in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, so the tickets are gonna be cheap. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're gonna get in get in for cheap,

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Speaker 1: which will be nice, and we're still gonna be around

1933
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Speaker 1: the stadium so again you see us, come say hello,

1934
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing like a lot more content because

1935
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Speaker 1: we can now like as amazing we were spoiled because

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Speaker 1: we got to go to games for free and we

1937
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: were paid by the team and we had incredible access

1938
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: like that, that stuff is gonna change for us. We're

1939
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: not gonna have those same opportunities to talk to players,

1940
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Speaker 1: to talk to guys. It's gonna be a lot of

1941
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Speaker 1: grinding on our side and hopefully making relationship with players

1942
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: whenever we get the opportunity to, like I have with Jeff,

1943
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 1: like I gotta cash that in now I have to

1944
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: DM him rather than just walking onto the field and

1945
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: being able to talk to him. But still plan on

1946
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Speaker 1: doing a lot. We're gonna be able to have a

1947
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 1: lot more fun. When the team sucks, we're gonna tell

1948
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: you they suck. When the team's doing really well, we'll

1949
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: still be super positive. We're gonna be at the cake Corn.

1950
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be at at Ebbs if it's even still called.

1951
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. We're gonna be having

1952
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: beers with you guys, doing content, doing trivia with fans,

1953
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 1: Like we just really want to make this podcast a

1954
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: lot more fun and the really corny term that I've

1955
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 1: been using in conversation with James is like kind of

1956
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Speaker 1: just like build up, like the Mets Stuff podcast, like

1957
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: universal way of just like we don't want to necessarily

1958
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 1: only be a podcast that you listen to on Monday

1959
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: and on Thursday when series ends. We want you to

1960
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: come to our YouTube channel. We want you to come

1961
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: to our Instagram, interact with our stuff, see us at

1962
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Speaker 1: the game, have a beer, like whatever it is. We

1963
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 1: just want to kind of build that up because I

1964
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: think that's something that unfortunately we did lose a little

1965
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 1: bit going you know, big big shop, big corporate when

1966
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: we did join the Mets. Yeah, it's community. We want

1967
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Speaker 1: to build community.

1968
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Speaker 2: And again, shout out you guys for this because like

1969
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Speaker 2: since the last couple of months have been crazy, like

1970
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Speaker 2: we basically Instagram following our reels are amazing, and shout

1971
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Speaker 2: out to both of us because we have some great ideas.

1972
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Speaker 2: We've had a thousand followers for our Twitter acounts still

1973
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 2: kind stagging there, but it's good.

1974
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Speaker 1: Like we've I think even you and I are personal.

1975
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 2: Pages we've gotten better at because we kind of lost

1976
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Speaker 2: that thing that was hanging over both of our heads

1977
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Speaker 2: where it's like we know that people are, for lack

1978
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,679
Speaker 2: of better term, watching us, and not that they shouldn't

1979
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: have been, but it was definitely a weird feeling. I

1980
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: mean I felt it personally too, like it's about even

1981
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: working two full time jobs and like trying to build

1982
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 2: up personal following, Like it's hard.

1983
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuf.

1984
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Speaker 2: You're running here, running there're doing things a lot of

1985
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: people tell you to where now your creativity finally feels

1986
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 2: like it's flowing again. I'm excited for it to flow

1987
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: and again whatever happens with this Mets team, Like we're

1988
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: gonna tell you, like we're gonna give you some stats,

1989
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 2: then we're gonna probably tell you some jokes, and we're

1990
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Speaker 2: gonna say some bad words. But then we're just gonna

1991
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 2: hang out and most often than not, we're gonna be

1992
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 2: a sey Field just drinking beer.

1993
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Speaker 1: Like that's basically the end of the day with Mark,

1994
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Speaker 1: And that's the end of the day. Is what we

1995
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Speaker 1: love to do. Is why even start doing this in

1996
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Speaker 1: the first place.

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Speaker 2: That's just like that, that's like the rank right there,

1998
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Speaker 2: like city Field drinking beer, Like that's what That's what

1999
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: this show is gonna be about. Like we want to

2000
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: hang out, we want to connect with you guys, and

2001
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 2: we just want to make this as fun as possible

2002
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: because this is what we like to do. Like we're

2003
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 2: gonna stop doing this last couple of months because we

2004
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: kind of we cristed a little bit. We flew very

2005
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 2: close to the sun and the wings certainly melted and things.

2006
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: It's been a real awakening, real coming of a coming

2007
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 2: to coming to coming to grips moment these last couple

2008
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Speaker 2: of months, especially for me, someone has been like I

2009
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: don't even know what the fuck's going on my life

2010
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: in general, but this summer, it's just I really want

2011
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Speaker 2: to go see the field and have a beer.

2012
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Speaker 1: That's like all I'm looking forward to. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like,

2013
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Speaker 1: like you said, the reason we started this podcast was

2014
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: because we lived together and we were just like, we

2015
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: talk about the Mets for thirty forty minutes a day

2016
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: on our own, like we should probably record this, and

2017
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:14,679
Speaker 1: that's the feel we want to get back to, because

2018
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: I think when we were doing the stuff with the

2019
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 1: Mets again, we were limited on what we could say

2020
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: because we can't be like, oh wow, like Max Ers

2021
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: really fucking sucks, Like this guy really shit in the

2022
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 1: bed can't say that because God forbid, Max suers or

2023
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: hears that, and then we go on the field. Now

2024
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: there's a problem. Now we don't get to talk to

2025
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: anybody like. This was the kind of stuff that had

2026
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: to go through our head every single episode, and that's

2027
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Speaker 1: kind of why we would have episodes before the episodes

2028
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Speaker 1: that were not recorded so we could get everything out

2029
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Speaker 1: and then kind of, for lack of a better term,

2030
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 1: bullshit you guys for a little bit. But this season

2031
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: completely different. The boys are back to actually talking about

2032
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,679
Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't want to say being critical

2033
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 1: because I don't think that's fair, but being fair like

2034
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: what is happening, what our opinion is on things, and

2035
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like James said, having

2036
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: a beer and watching some baseball because that's what it's

2037
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: all about. So we're really excited for this season. Hope

2038
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Speaker 1: you guys are too. A lot of great content coming

2039
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: at you. Make sure you're following us on all our

2040
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: social media at met stuff, on Twitter, Instagram, at TikTok. Again,

2041
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel will have more than just the podcast episodes,

2042
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: so if you want to see that content as well,

2043
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: go subscribe to the Met Stuff podcast on YouTube. The

2044
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: ones who have come over and watched seem to be

2045
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: really enjoying it, So we hope the rest of you

2046
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: join us over there, and if not, if you just

2047
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: want to listen to the podcast after every series, Apple, Spotify, Google,

2048
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 1: whatever it is, drop Us are rating drop us a review.

2049
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: We really do appreciate it does help us grow in

2050
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: the world of insane amount of Mets podcasts that exists

2051
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: out there. Then we got to be the team with

2052
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: the most podcasts, right, I don't the Yankees basically have

2053
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: John Boy and like a couple others. I feel like

2054
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: the Mets have like nine yeah, and all the Mets

2055
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: wants are like seemingly kind of even. It's just like

2056
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 1: we're all basically the same, and everyone seems like they're

2057
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: like listening to basically all of them, but they have

2058
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 1: very strong feelings about each one individually.

2059
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Speaker 2: But again, shall you guys are choosing this one. We're

2060
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: happy you're here, We're gonna stay here. We enjoy doing this,

2061
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: and let's go messic opening day like there's again it's

2062
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: a bit definitely a bittersweet feeling. Our favorite in this

2063
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: podcast for probably both of us. With this season starting

2064
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 2: and having a different and field to with both with

2065
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: the team and both of our own pursuits of sports

2066
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 2: baseball media. But it's just it's like the Mets are

2067
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 2: gonna be playing baseball that matters either on Thursday or Friday. Again,

2068
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 2: that's really the only important thing.

2069
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: Uh. And a little little hint for those of you

2070
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: who made this long, I think we're gonna do something

2071
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 1: called like what are you called booze bucks or we're

2072
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: we're basically gonna spend off your money a little bit

2073
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: and we're gonna we're gonna do like a trivia game

2074
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: for you guys at the stadium. So if you see

2075
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: us with cameras, come up to us, you're gonna have

2076
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity to maybe win some money. Get on, get

2077
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: on our content, be involved. So thank you, guys, and

2078
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: we will catch you all on the next episode. Piece out,

2079
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: peace out, See you guys next time. Let's go Mets.

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Speaker 1: H