WEBVTT - Ep. 19: Ben "ShedCrazy" Dettamanti 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:05.120 Hey, everybody, Welcome to episode number nineteen of The Hunting Collective. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.240 I'm Ben O'Brien and today I am joined by shed 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.080 Crazy also known as Ben Dedamanti and Ben. If I'm 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.800 saying your name wrong, your last name, I'm sorry, but 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:18.720 your first name is awesome. I was joined by Ben 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:21.920 for episode number nineteen in Terry Peak, South Dakota. That's 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.760 a total archery challenge once again. Just like episode eighteen, 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.280 we hopped into Sam Sohol's public lands bus to talk 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:32.040 about Ben's life and times. Ben is a shed hunter 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.600 out of Utah and he started an online persona that 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:38.879 he calls shed Crazy and it is if you're not 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.680 a following his Instagram account or is other social media accounts, 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.720 it's a laugh a day, a laugh a minute. Man. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.680 The dude is hilarious, and so I wanted to catch 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:50.920 up with him see if I could get him to 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.519 make us all laugh, but also get get a bit 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.720 of his perspective on social media, a bit of his 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.920 perspective on the landscape of how people become popular in 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.000 that in that venue, and talk about some of our 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.039 other famous topics that we've discussed in previous episodes. So 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:31.960 with all that set. Please enjoy episode number nineteen, shit crazy. Well, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.360 both of our names are Ben. This could get confusing. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.000 How are we gonna do this? I don't know. I'll 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.959 how we're gonna refer to each other? Ben? Be here? 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:46.080 Thanks Ben, ben O Brian Ben never had another Ben 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.480 on the podcast. Good good, Thanks for being my first 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.840 other Ben. How does it feel like being a Bend? 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.600 Is that you feel it's a special privilege or it's 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.360 almost a burden across the bear Like, let's I feel 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:01.040 like it's a pretty good name. Three letters. That keeps 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.040 it right on my level. So here we go, Benjamin. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.240 That's that's the full name is Benjamin. So I never 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.520 do use it, though I've managed to avoid it for 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.200 most of my life. I did grow up next door 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.079 to another kid named Ben. He's my best friend growing up, 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.760 So I was always Benjamin. He was always ben Jury, 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.760 ben Jury. Yeah. So if he's listening, you know, it's up, man, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:25.400 shout him out. Shout him out, ben Jury, what's up? 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.200 It's a random way. How was always Benny? I don't 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.200 know why. Maybe because I seem a little like a 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:39.079 smaller person, childish childish human Benny, Benny ob whatever, whatever, people. Well, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.040 thanks for joining me here at the Total Archery Challenge. Yeah. Yeah, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.359 uh we did shoot today. We didn't shot today it's 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:51.200 raining outside, no um, but we did shoot yesterday, and 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.760 you shot an apple, yes, off of a deer's nose 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.840 at sixty seven yards. It was how does that feel? 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.640 That was definitely the highlight of my round, and I 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.840 love that That's going to be the moment everyone remembers, 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.000 because the rest of the shoe was pretty terrible. It 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.519 was almost like if you shot, you missed a couple 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.959 of free throws and then I got your own rebound 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.280 and then stepped back and hit the game winning Yeah, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.720 that's exactly how it's like, maybe you only had four 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.600 points the whole game of leading up everybody terrible games, 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.920 and then the next thing. You know, that's a perfect, 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.920 perfect explanation right there. Yeah, it was sweet man. That 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.880 was I've been pulling right the whole day a little bit, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.520 so I just held left a tad. The release felt great. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.520 Soon as I let it go, I'm like, oh, so 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.600 much celebration. Yeah, it feel like screamed like a girl. 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.280 Actually I don't believe. And he pulled it off. We're 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.720 talking like six seven yards across a little a little 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.240 open not a canyon with a little open canyon sounds more. 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.080 It was across the canyon canyon with the river. And 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:59.480 it'll get more impressive as time goes on. Yeah, around 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.280 a couple of tree. Oh yeah, and was alive, dear. 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.320 It wasn't a target, it was it really stood there 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.080 for a long time. Still there actually a good apple. Yeah, 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.320 but this is an apple as a big as you know, 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.400 a little bit bigger than a regular apple. It's like 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:18.880 a nice gala, like a gala. Yeah, real ripe, nice gala. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.120 Yeah for sure. Uh so I was impressed. But what 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.240 do you what's your thoughts on the Total Archery Challenge? 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.360 Not that we have any reason to advertise it, but 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.880 I think that yeah, it is. It's way cool. I think, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.320 you know, the coolest thing for me is getting to 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.039 meet all these people. Yeah, getting rubbed shoulders with people 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:35.279 from a different neck of the woods, talk stories and 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.120 learned a little bit about the things they do. It's 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.680 been a lot of fun. I enjoy smashing a few 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.800 dozen arrows here. Sponsored by do you have any air 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.880 responsors already? Gold Tip, Build tip and the shout out 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:49.640 to gold Tip. Thanks gold tip. Yeah, I'll be needing 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.360 some more arrows for the upcoming shoots. Please, uh, if 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:58.000 you're listening, Yeah, I only lost two, but all the 0:04:58.040 --> 0:04:59.760 airs hit the target, but just not where I wanted 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.680 him go, which was an issue I found. Yeah, that 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:06.520 can happen. Yeah, we had a cool, cool group of 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:09.520 people run around mountains shooting arrows. It's not a bad day. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:11.760 It's not a bad way to spend your day. No, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.200 it was good man, there's a lot of fun. Um. Well, 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:19.880 you're here as a guest of a company called Canvas Cutter, right, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.840 and um I mentioned that to say, like you weren't 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:30.200 always in the hunting industry, and you weren't probably always 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.640 traveling to things like this as a guest of any 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.159 any company at any level. No, no, um, we got 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.280 to hear the story, kid's gotta You don't have to 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:41.360 start at the beginning. You could do like one of 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:44.640 those non linear stories where you start out at the end, 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.000 like a Ronnella story. Just jump all over the place 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.560 and then you go back to the beginning in the end. 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.720 It's perfect. The end is the middle. Yeah, anything like 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.960 whatever you want to do. So five years old, I'm 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.479 on my bike right right now. It's not. It's pretty 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.119 basic for me. I've always just been an outdoors obsessed person. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.560 I've always if I had time to hunt, I was 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.440 in the hills. My dad started me when I was 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.360 just a little kid, and I always knew it was 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.720 what I wanted to do in some capacity. I didn't 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.400 know that it would ever be a career. Um, But 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.400 basically a few years ago started building a little social 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:22.280 media following UM and got to the point where, um, 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.279 I really started entertaining ideas of doing it full time. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:27.360 After I you know, obtained just a little bit of 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:31.640 sponsorship and things like that, and pulled the trigger on 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.560 it full time about two years ago now, a year 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.720 and a half ago. UM, And uh yeah, I just 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:41.160 basically mostly what I do is hunt shed antlers and 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:46.480 make dumb videos. And apparently in today's society that could 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.480 be considered a career. That is exemplar area you are, 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.840 you're stepping out. Yeah, so now I get to go 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.039 to events like this and call it work traveling around. 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:01.280 It's awesome for me, you know, like I was always 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.640 doing this stuff in my head when I should have 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.880 been doing my normal job. Yeah, I was always thinking 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.280 about hunting and wanting to be at events like this, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.040 and yeah, now I get to do it, so I 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.520 love it. It's great. What was the job before I did? 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.320 Granted work for about eight years um and then prior 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:19.080 about two years prior to doing this full time, I 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.240 started doing maintenance for the school district where I live. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.920 So I was literally a janitor and started, Uh, man, 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.000 there's nothing that will motivate yet to move and move places. No, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.320 I'm just kid. Actually that that work was fine. It 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:32.560 was all good. But I had a lot of time 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.640 on my hands and a lot of time you think 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.840 about what i'd other be doing, and I found a 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:38.920 way to kind of make it happen. Well, I imagine 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.600 I get this all the time. I'm sure you get 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.400 it now. But like people, when people ask you, how 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.320 do you get in the industry? Right, how do you 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:51.320 do this? I always say, I don't know. It just 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.920 happens asking me for I think I had a plan, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.000 you think I was like, you know, in eight years, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.520 I'm gonna be there. I'll be sitting in the bus. Yeah, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:00.720 I've just been ski even Like, how do you get 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.440 that blue check mark on it? Right? Oh? Yeah, that 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.200 is if that means you're official. Yeah. I totally never 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.520 like have planned out and followed through on a plan 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.640 on anything in my whole life, and stuff just kind 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.120 of happens, and I think that's how it's meant to be. Yeah, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.160 you just take whatever you're presented and try to make 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.520 the best of it, and if you're passionate about something, 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.080 you try to put your head down and work at it. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.000 Is there any point where you thought I gotta go 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.840 back to being yeah, working granted or being a janitor 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.640 or I failed this thing or it was it always 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.680 like just I'm gonna keep doing it until it works. Um. Yeah, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:36.680 There's definitely been points where you know you're like, mostly 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.320 it's a financial question. You're like, oh man, how am 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.040 I going to get through this month where I know 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.600 I have to go out find things to film, make content. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:45.959 I don't have the budget for it. What am I 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.760 going to do? But I believe, like whether you call 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.920 it fate, the universe, God, whatever you wanna call it, 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.560 I believe that doors open when you put yourself out there. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.600 So I know, like, as long as I keep trying 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.000 to do what I want to do, that doors will 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:02.720 continue to open. And that's it's been every time, good luck. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.000 Whatever it might be. There might be a point where 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.120 I you don't have to go back to working and 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.199 if I if I do, then I'll just look back 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.760 and back. It was funny. I doubt that, but yeah, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.320 I'm always interested in that. Even myself, I never had 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:18.680 a plan of what what it could be. And even 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.640 get a job or like take a jump like you have, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.600 you don't know whether it's gonna end up being right 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.040 even when you start doing it. You know, I was 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.120 somebody was talking to me showing to Gray who runs 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:29.920 until archer Chong was like, here's my five year plan, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.679 and I just kind of have to do get out 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:37.120 of here. Five plans are the most waste of time 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.880 really possible. Yeah, there's so much unknown in that. Yeah, 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:42.320 you make a five you're planning, You're like, well, if 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:43.920 I just keep going to the five year plan, how 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.439 much stuff do you miss along the way trying to 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.760 point your sales towards the freaking five year planning? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.559 there's other doors, like the doors that opened that you 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.240 were like, no, that's not near my five year plan 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.199 can be taking that dream briefit full of money that 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.800 that wasn't in my plan. That was nope, Nope, that 0:09:59.880 --> 0:10:03.600 was Now you're sing a check. That's always it's always 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.880 been interesting to me. But here and you talk about 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.880 just coming up in your relationship with your dad, and like, yeah, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.880 what you know everybody has not everybody. If you're lucky 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:15.559 enough to have a dad that took you outside, I 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.160 think it like sticks, it must stick with you. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.160 It's been the definitely the molding factor for me. You know, 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.679 like I could never get enough of that time. And 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.040 I'm lucky enough to still have my dad around. He 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:28.760 still loves to hunt. We still get to go together, 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.719 and now as this kind of evolves, that's becoming a 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.360 larger and larger part of it for me is just 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.800 making time to spend with him in the hills. And 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.199 you know, he still die hard. He loves it, so 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.400 we get we get out there every time that we 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.959 every time we can. That's awesome. And then what's the 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:49.360 you know you you're did you have? Was shed crazy? 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.120 Who made that up? I did? Yeah? I came up 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:59.120 with that um at work on the clock, So sorry school, 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.160 my dad. Actually I was working for my dad at 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:05.280 the time of grant at work, but yeah, so sorry dad. Um, yeah, 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.920 I just I had my personal Instagram, and then I 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.640 was seeing people doing like there's a couple of Shed 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.000 hunting instagrams and like I can do that. I like 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:16.040 the same thing, and uh, like what do you like? 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.079 I could copy that? So I was like, what's a 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.240 good name? This will work? And I started posting just 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.120 shed pictures on there a few years ago, and uh, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.120 I started to gain a little bit of traction, and um, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.400 after about a year or so doing it. Was actually 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.280 my wife one day, she's like, you know, I think 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.679 you're funny. You should do like funny stuff on there. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.240 I was like, no, people don't want to see that. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.760 They're here to see high quality, polished content. That's what 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.920 I've been providing over the years. And uh, it's so 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:47.240 high it's come down. I cannot improve upon it. And 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.360 so I finally, after some kicking and screaming, started like 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.360 posting some of the videos I had on my phone, 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.120 just dumb stuff I'd come up with over time, and 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.040 that's when it really started to grow. So she she 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.160 knew what she's talking about. And I feel like, uh, 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.880 hunting just needs like some humor. Too serious these days? 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.000 Oh yeah, man like it's funny, because the portrayal of 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.599 hunting on social media is this serious thing, but the 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.160 reality of hunting is like just dudes joking around with 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:19.120 their buddies having fun. That's exactly right. And I just like, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.840 why why pretend that it's something that it's not. It's fun. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.520 If it wasn't fun, why would you do it? It 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.400 is fun though. I remember all back in the day, 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.960 was that TV show Jimmy Big Time. You ever watched 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.959 that show? Uh? It was the guy. Remind me that 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.640 guy a little bit, but he was. It was a 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.280 TV show, him just spoofing out their TV and I 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.120 thought that was the funniest thing in the world. Apparently 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:43.199 nobody else did. We wanted to make it nobody. Every 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:44.760 time I'd say, man, I love that Jimmy Big Time. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.679 People like, shut up, man, that's stupid. I loved it. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.559 It's like two hours one time with him trying to 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.160 put on a tree stand horns and the garage. That 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:54.920 sounds like you'd be right up my alley. Yeah, I 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.199 was like that this is the perfect because this is 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.560 the absolute perfect thing. But yeah, I always just because 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.160 we take this thing so seriously and we get these 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:09.719 little bubbles where we're talking about you know, people we 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.080 know and it's all relationships. What about that guy Cam Haynes, 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.560 you know what's deepen up to? And like we're all 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.000 we make fun of each other. We laugh like it's 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.160 not all that freaking serious. Absolutely, Like a lot of 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.480 the companies that are luckily enough to work with, you 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:26.360 know nowadays, I started off the relationship making fun of them, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.679 and it was people who just rolled with it and 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.760 laughed about it, like, oh that's funny. Yeah, we think 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.959 that's great. And you know some people do, like some 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.040 people get butt hurt, but most people there's some brands 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.719 that I know that will go unspoken that are they 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.600 like branding. Yeah, like they're really worried about their image 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.840 and there's no humility and their brand as a person 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:51.440 would be like the most boring Yeah in front of us. Yeah, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:53.840 like this we're serious. It always has to be serious. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.120 It always has to be beautiful. It can't be gritty, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.920 it always has to be that's just like that's not 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.319 how it is. No, you gotta have some kind of 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.960 you know. I worked for a brand that we did 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:08.160 a video about elk milk. Yeah, that was so funny. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.839 Like I remember watching that and we uh remember that 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:15.200 was like some of the motivation for that cosmic Brownie 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.599 Amma we did with Mounts a few years ago. That 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:21.320 was kind of funny. Yeah, that was classic. Yeah that, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.560 I mean, we just I knew that was gonna be good. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.120 It's the amount that was people laughed during the filming. Yeah, 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.640 and how much we laughed watching the edits as they 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.360 It's just such a good idea. Yeah, Jordan Shipley being 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.120 the main dude, because I know George Shipley a little 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.200 a little bit from being down in Austin, and they're like, 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.600 George ship was going to do a video about milking elk, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.600 and I was like, well, that sounds like the April 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:50.840 Fool joke right there, right, Sometimes though, you just take 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.760 a chance and ship ends up hilarious. Yeah, that was epic, man. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.840 You need to read the comments on that. People love 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:57.880 that stuff and they love to see the lighter side, 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.040 especially company you know like YEI that puts out super 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.280 high quality content as the norm built. Yeah, and then 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:05.920 like oh yeah, and we can take a joke. Yeah. No. 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.160 Part of what we always said was like, if your 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.240 brand doesn't have humility, is one of its main characteristics. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.360 Then you're gonna always you're just gonna be at some 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.280 level you're gonna trying to be too authentic and you're 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.280 just gonna lose your north star and you're too worried 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:22.760 about is there enough mud on that cooler? Man? Yeah? 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.760 Um concerns me, But is there? Like, have you ever 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:33.240 had anybody, you know, take sarcasm and turn it into 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:36.960 like rage and man go snowflake on you? Oh? Absolutely 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.960 all the time and almost all the stories. Oh man, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.080 those are my favorite messages to get some people like 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.720 a lot of it, like what came came through with 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.360 the hushing guys, because I started off just kind of 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.800 making fun, poking guys even before I really knew them 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.440 that well personally, you know, just taking jabs and dude, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.640 Eric Chester has the most the most violent fans, the 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.560 defenders like, if you say something bad about him, dude, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.520 prepare your inbox. I just get these kids like you 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.040 don't know him, you don't talk about him, like that's 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.360 just the dumbest little things. But um, yeah, just just 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:15.080 comments on posts. People take you completely serious. You're an idiot. Yeah, 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:18.360 I know I know that. That's why why, That's why 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:20.520 I'm trying to be funny. Yeah, I love it. I 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.320 love when people just totally miss a sarcasm, and it's 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:24.920 almost like an inside joke because there will be a 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.520 whole bunch of people making sarcastic comments, and then there's 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.560 always one dude that's like, I don't think that's a 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:33.760 very good portrayal. Okay, well like yeah, okay, So yesterday 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.320 I posted a a picture of a deer. You know, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.000 I had some long blood on the side of it, right, 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.040 And this guy comments, why does it have silly putty 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.240 on the side of it, right? And this other guys 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:48.360 like that's long blood, because like, no, it's not. That's 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.840 He's like, that's silly putty. He's like, Jake crazy, help 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:52.680 us out. So I commented on there and I'm like, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.720 I don't know. I was playing the silly putty that day. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.600 And I also shot that during the lung so it 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:01.640 could be like who knows, and it's so funny. I 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:03.320 love it. I love it when they missed the sarcasm. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:07.080 That's my favorite thing. Idea just your style. I always think, 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.080 like I guarantee there's dudes out there that are like 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.480 what a dick. I can't believe you would say that 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.160 about Casey Butler, that's what's wrong with the hunting, And yeah, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.480 that's exactly what's wrong. Yeah, he does look like that guy. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:21.080 I love it. Who does Casey Butler most look like celebrity? 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:26.880 Does he most resemble to you? I don't know he looked. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.280 People tell us we look like like I had. I've 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.480 had people full on mistake me for Casey and the 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.359 other way around, like just people who have never met 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.679 us before. You know, Casey said he was I think 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:38.240 he was at the X one. Some came somebody came 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:39.760 up and like asked him how how the sad Hunt 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:43.240 was going this year? It was crazy. It's had a 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.159 great year. It was a crazy crazy. He probably plays me. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:49.160 Who's he looked like to you? Jack Black? Oh yeah, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.960 oh yeah, I can tell her to see that. Yep. Yeah, 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.840 And I'm gonna have to ask him about that. And 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:59.000 he's gonna get a Jack Black personality too. He's hilarious, dude, Casey. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.800 Every Budy should get the chance to hang out with 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.160 him for a while. The funniest you laugh your ass 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.639 off the entire time. But yeah, I don't know who 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.840 we were riding back from. I think Calahan or somebody 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.120 was like, you know, Casey looks like Jack Black. Yes, 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:16.720 yes he does. He looks exactly. Like that's funny, that's good. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.000 Is there any like from being on social media? Do 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.840 you do you think you learned things about how to 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:28.320 interact with people in the hunting industry? Are you concerned 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.520 about honey? Social media does to your psyche as you 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:36.040 function through it as a job. Yeah, like it definitely 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.119 so for me. The thing that I noticed is that 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.720 it's really easy for people to become egotistical, like myself included. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.440 You know, like you get to where you show up somewhere, 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.040 people know who you are, you know what I mean, 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:53.080 and like even the small, small amount of whatever do 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.320 you want to call celebrity, but like being recognized, it's 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.200 super easy to let it go to your head and 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.280 just like start thinking that you're something Like I remember 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.600 the first last or maybe a couple of years ago, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.080 I went to the expo in Salt Lake and it 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:06.760 was like I had a lot of people coming up 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.639 to me and I was like, oh my gosh, remember 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.440 I made it. Were driving home and being like you 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.119 are not that big of a deal, bro, Like you 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.879 need to shrink your head down a little bit, right, Yeah, great, 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.919 you know, I experienced kind of the same thing. It's 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.159 funny that, like everybody goes through that, you know, if 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.680 you ever get everybody that's famous went through that hump 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.720 where it was like nobody knows who I am. I'm 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.600 just one of the regular guys. All of a sudden, 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:32.560 I'm one of the I'm one of the guys that 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.639 some of the regular guys come up to right and say, like, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.440 cool stuff, bro right, And I find that most people 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.600 just come up and say cool man, love it, yeah, 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.240 and they go on. But then some people, you know, 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:47.560 close talk, you show you a lot of pictures in 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.480 the phone, a lot of their phone. Yeah. Yeah, but 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.720 just getting over that hump is super odd. Yeah it is. 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.720 It's kind of a weird. It's kind of a weird space, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.640 like when you're not used to it at all. Yeah, 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.000 I live thirty two years that anybody were coming up 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.320 to me and saying like, oh, I know you from 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.320 a thing. And then people started saying that like yeah, 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.840 but it doesn't matter, and that can't matter. That's what 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.040 you have to keep reminding yourself, is that like, yeah, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.320 just because I know who you are, doesn't mean you're special. Yeah, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.600 it can't matter, and I've always I've tried. I don't 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.359