WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Addressing the Obvious at Safety

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Monday, August twentieth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen, episode

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break,

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<v Speaker 1>live from the s WBC Morgage Studios at the Star.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back at the Star, away from Oxnard, California, and

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<v Speaker 1>already talk some Cowboys football. How's everybody field in this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>I feel I mean, I know that's bad timing because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel great. I'm good. I feel great. Yeah, it rested,

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<v Speaker 1>really bad timing. Okay, good, perfect? Amber good. Oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to be home. Yes, it's very good to be ready. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick tired. I don't know why. The first two days

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a normal time. But now I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>back on the West Coast time or something. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>try to figure it all out. Yeah, yeah, we're good though,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it going here. Good, we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about today. We got the game. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing Derek? Thank you Amber for asking. No one ever

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<v Speaker 1>ask me that, but thank you. I'm feeling great. Everything's great,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's great. All right, So we got a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Cowboys lose, But do they really a game

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<v Speaker 1>where where you saw again, just like the game the

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<v Speaker 1>first week of the preseason, you saw a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>be very positive about when it comes to this team,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically if you want to look at the first team.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's start there. Just give me the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a quick your thought on the game overall this week

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys versus the Bengals. Well, I mean these games,

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<v Speaker 1>are you win the first half? That's all you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. You just want to win the first

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<v Speaker 1>half and get out of the game healthy. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to do one out of two. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about injuries in a little bit, but I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know they're up ten nothing at the half.

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<v Speaker 1>They were up I think fourteen seven last week. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that's what you want, That's what you want

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<v Speaker 1>out of these games. Are the starters better than your starters?

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that play? Right? There have been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people won't be able to do that there showing

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<v Speaker 1>Dak's touchdown to Terrence Williams on the TV's in here

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<v Speaker 1>right now, right now. So the point is, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to point out real quick, it's like how people keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Dak Prescott and he's an ability of maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not being like the perfect quarterback or whatever throwing passes.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's again why you like this guy, that he's

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<v Speaker 1>capable to make those moves and although he's not always

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<v Speaker 1>perfect with the passes, the fact that he can move around,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the pocket and still have time to

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<v Speaker 1>make a good throw there and connect with Terrence. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you love, you need a quarterback that can do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got Dac that does that perfectly. Honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you, I know how you prepare, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not trying to cut your legs out from underneath you.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've got a lot of topics, so go for

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<v Speaker 1>it with It's it's just a net win because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about replacing Zach Martin right now. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going next. I don't don't care about anything else, honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be completely honest with you. It's my job

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<v Speaker 1>to cover this team. I'm supposed to watch the game.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as he got hurt. I checked out down

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<v Speaker 1>to about a ten percent attention span for most of

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the game because I was writing a

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<v Speaker 1>story about the injury. I was scanning the sideline to

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<v Speaker 1>see if he was coming back out. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to the radio broadcast to see if Christy

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<v Speaker 1>Scales had an update. I was imagining the conference call

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday where Jason Garrett calls in with the results

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<v Speaker 1>of the MRI to tell us that Zach tores acl

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like what veterans are out there, all of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff that we've done that before, and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a fun cover. No, no, it's not fun and for

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<v Speaker 1>us to be you know, we're not leading off talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. I don't give a crap about anything else

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in that game, because Zach Martin is either

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<v Speaker 1>your best or one of your two or three best

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<v Speaker 1>players on this team, and for about an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half on Saturday night, I thought he was done

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<v Speaker 1>for the year. So when that happened, I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>sideline and it happened literally right in front of me,

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<v Speaker 1>and when I saw him go down, I'm like, damn, Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a beast. That's why he's a beast. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh wait, crap, that actually because the hint

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<v Speaker 1>was so hard that I'm thinking, you know, this beast

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<v Speaker 1>guy that just can't take anything, and then he's just

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<v Speaker 1>laying on the ground like, oh oh boy, this does

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<v Speaker 1>not look good. It's very unusual for one of those

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<v Speaker 1>guys to have a situation like that. Travis has never

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<v Speaker 1>missed the snap. Zach has never missed a regular season snap.

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<v Speaker 1>It took eight injuries for Tyrn Smith to eventually have

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<v Speaker 1>to bow out of games last year, like it's unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>So to see him have to not only leave the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but go into that evaluation tent I just did not

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<v Speaker 1>seem good. Okay, so let's go a little bit deeper

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<v Speaker 1>into that. Talk to me about the status of Zach

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<v Speaker 1>mar at this point. We all know that I think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's heard at this point it's not season ending, But

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<v Speaker 1>tell us the status in and how long he's expected

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<v Speaker 1>to be out. An updated status from today is a

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<v Speaker 1>little white sleeve on his knee, able to get a

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<v Speaker 1>chicken sandwich. I think from the line or wherever I

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<v Speaker 1>saw him, No, I didn't. I just saw it. But

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<v Speaker 1>walking around there was two other guys not able to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. They had some crutches. He's slight lamp. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I started doing math in my head, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth eleven more days plus nine, it's twenty days to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He's fine, twenty days to go. He's good for the

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<v Speaker 1>first game. I do. I do think he's good for

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<v Speaker 1>the first game if I had to. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the word coming out of the organization too, is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're optimistic he'll be ready for week one. No dress

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<v Speaker 1>rehearsal for him. No, No, it's twenty something days away,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a tough guy. I would imagine he'll be ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be honest here, based on a lot of different scenarios,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just leave it at that. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think your dress rehearsal is going to look

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<v Speaker 1>the same as normally. I don't know if you play

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<v Speaker 1>as many guys as you have played in the past

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<v Speaker 1>for this particular Okay, so back up before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. I do want to talk though about what

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<v Speaker 1>happened once he left the game. Who goes in in

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<v Speaker 1>his place, and how comfortable do you feel with that,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that once you get into the season you may

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<v Speaker 1>have a similar situation if he should go down. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that Travis Frederick was also out with the shoulder injury,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think they're too concerned about that. So

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<v Speaker 1>because Joe Looney was playing center, Kadeem Edwards came in.

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<v Speaker 1>If this was just a regular season game that Frederick starts,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it would have been Looney that went

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<v Speaker 1>into guard. So that's kind of where they stand, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're all we're all talking, Okay, what happens if he's

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<v Speaker 1>out for a long time. Do you move Lyle back

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<v Speaker 1>to guard? Do you move Fleming to guard? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>put Looney there? You know a lot of different options,

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<v Speaker 1>and they really don't have to mess with that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think for this game, I think you play kade Edwards

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<v Speaker 1>to see if he makes your football team. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's right there on the edge of the eighth lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the eighth lineman right now on the team.

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<v Speaker 1>But is someone that's gonna get cut gonna be better

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<v Speaker 1>than Kadem Edwards? That's what's going to come down to

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Apps, Yeah, I completely agree. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest things facing one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>unknowns is you know, how you round out that old

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<v Speaker 1>line depth chart. I know, I mean it looked pretty

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<v Speaker 1>awful after the main guys got out the other night,

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<v Speaker 1>which I feel like, you know, you look around on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a lot of doom and gloom, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>just preseason football. That's there's not a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen in the NFL. And if you've got five

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<v Speaker 1>or six that you feel good about. I thought Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Looney played really well for a guy that had to

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<v Speaker 1>come in and play a boatload more than he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>used to because Travis Frederick didn't play. Now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we know Zach and Travis are probably good for the

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<v Speaker 1>season opener. You got seven guys that you feel pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good about. I think Cam Fleming probably could have played

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<v Speaker 1>better on Saturday, but I didn't think he was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise the Golden State Warriors are going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a bad bitch because they've got the best players in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. And that's what happens. What what what veteran's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna want to come to play the offensive line here.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not drafting a whole lot of offensive linemen to

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<v Speaker 1>be backups, and the ones they are just aren't very good,

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<v Speaker 1>which I mean, you know, I can hear the people

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<v Speaker 1>at home reminding us about the Chaz Green game. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Cam Fleming is a step up from that.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he had a good training camp. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have been better against the Bengals. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sounding any alarms about it right now. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've got seven that you feel pretty good about when

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<v Speaker 1>you add in Fleming and Looney and then whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Kadeem Edwards. I have a hard time believing it would

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<v Speaker 1>be Chaz Green, but maybe it's possible, or that would

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting, it would be or you look, you look

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<v Speaker 1>to the waiver wire, I think you know, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>spot where I think they're going to be looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who can maybe be better than what they've got. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if they keep Chaz Green, then they need to just

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<v Speaker 1>give back all those T shirts that say, like the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen inch shirts of Everybody's the same and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't care where your draft status is, because they

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<v Speaker 1>obviously do. They obviously care about draft status. If they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna keep Chaz Green, if for three years, I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton Schultz is a tight end who really hasn't done

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<v Speaker 1>anything and they want to keep him. I get that,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for him, not for Green who almost got

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<v Speaker 1>your quarterback killed last year. I just don't see he

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't done anything to show that much improvement. You would

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<v Speaker 1>just keep him just because you have him and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want I don't either. I was I was really

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to cover my bases, like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll keep him either. I think he's had enough time.

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<v Speaker 1>Kadeem or a guy, a player to be named later,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had a guess. All right, let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>um and this one, Nick, I heard you say. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you were talking to me or I

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<v Speaker 1>just overheard you telling someone else. But after the game

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you know that's that was not the biggest injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessarily concerned, because it was a concern at first,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you kind of figured out he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be okay, you were way more concerned about Xavier Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Xavier Woods and his injury. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>a hamstring injury and it has to leave the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He gets a hamstring injury doing what we've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for him health for him to do and he did

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<v Speaker 1>something similar in the San Francisco game as well. He's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we talk about Dak being a gamer, Xavier

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<v Speaker 1>Woods appears to be a gamer. It was an awesome player.

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<v Speaker 1>He did get trucked a little earlier in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>but you want your safety. Someone too over the middle

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<v Speaker 1>too bed. It was Byron Jones. He did do that,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say he's Eric Barry. I'm just he was

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<v Speaker 1>making a good play. Yes, no, I'm with you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with it God, and it got him hurt. He dropped

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<v Speaker 1>the ball though too. God. Well, he was making a play.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get serious? I do give him that, like

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<v Speaker 1>he came from. He made a lot of ground. He

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<v Speaker 1>get there a nice good play. He didn't, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make any great That's one of the things we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about, or at least I have in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>as when you speak about him, is him being or

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<v Speaker 1>not being that kind of player like for example, Jeff Heath.

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<v Speaker 1>That just it's aggressive and just comes out of nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not afraid to make a tackle. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean this time he took a chance and it just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't good. He showed the range that you're looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's that's good. Okay, in stinks. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter because now he's done for his every season

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<v Speaker 1>problem two to four weeks, which means there's a good chance,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a sizeable chance that he's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there for week one. Now weeks. If guys, if

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are listening, remember last week we were going

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<v Speaker 1>through the roster and trying to make it down to

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<v Speaker 1>our fifty three and one of the things we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about was the lack of depth at the safety position.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're in a situation where you have to feel

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<v Speaker 1>this spot at least probably for one week, if not longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And you've got some more issues going on there as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because you've got and I know this doesn't matter for

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<v Speaker 1>week one, but it matters for right now, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're when your backups. Jamal Showers hurt his knee.

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<v Speaker 1>He's on crutches right now. Did we hear exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he's got? Is it a torn a cl I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's an a cl I mean it doesn't look good

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<v Speaker 1>at if you're on crutches, If you're on crushes, you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not playing this week. Or next at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not playing against the Cardinals. And Huff hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>He's been hurt, that's growing injury hasn't done much. Forget

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<v Speaker 1>forget the part where they might not have their starting

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<v Speaker 1>free safety for week one. They don't have enough guys

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<v Speaker 1>to get through this week, although apparently they disagree because

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I haven't heard anything about anybody coming

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<v Speaker 1>in here. It's just Monday. But they got practice in

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<v Speaker 1>three hours. I mean, you got you got Joe, you

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<v Speaker 1>got cave On Frasier, you got Tyree Robinson, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>being a little banged up too. Keith was playing with

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<v Speaker 1>an ankle injury too. Tyree Robinson and Cam Kelly are

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<v Speaker 1>about to get a hell of a look so at

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make some noise on this roster. So listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I'm a firm believer of the law

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<v Speaker 1>of attraction, and explain what action the law of attraction.

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<v Speaker 1>When you really believe something, and when you stake your

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<v Speaker 1>mind into it, you attracted, the world just works in

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<v Speaker 1>your favor. You believe that I truly believed, I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>walking testimony of that. Anyways, umat that you want to

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<v Speaker 1>believe in it. I think that the world is conspiring

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<v Speaker 1>to help someone in Seattle to get what he wants,

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<v Speaker 1>which is to be here, and the world is it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's conspiring to his benefits. I want to have, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to stop talking about the cowboys and

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<v Speaker 1>have like a forty five minute philosophical discussion about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do that after. We can't do that right and

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<v Speaker 1>the break is not time? Um, I mean, I what

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<v Speaker 1>what else can what else can you? What else can

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<v Speaker 1>we say? I mean, I mean, well, here's the question.

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<v Speaker 1>This side of the table has been concerned about safety

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<v Speaker 1>since March. So what do you want me to say

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<v Speaker 1>that I haven't. I think there are two things that

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<v Speaker 1>can be discussed right now. One of them is a

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<v Speaker 1>new development in the way of Georgia Loca, who is

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<v Speaker 1>the safety and Cincinnati. I hope I'll pronouncing that right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a safety in Cincinnati, was their starting safety

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<v Speaker 1>since twenty thirteen. Uh, they just cut him for what

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<v Speaker 1>they call salary cap reasons. But typically when you cut

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<v Speaker 1>a guy, no matter what his salary is, for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>reason you're not happy with his play. Um. They they

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<v Speaker 1>selected by somebody in the second round. They're ready to

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<v Speaker 1>make that guy their start, presume, and so he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the street. Should the Cowboys go in a player like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a veteran that may not cost a ton of money,

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<v Speaker 1>especially where he is right now being cut at this

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<v Speaker 1>point to where you get yourself some relief and you

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<v Speaker 1>get yourself an extra body. And when Xavier Wood comes back,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't slow down the progress of an Xavier Woods

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<v Speaker 1>right Wood, Is that the way to go? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that this changes anything about what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about for months, which is this whole thing kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sitting out there in Seattle with Earl Thomas. I mean, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the earl guy. Go ahead. Well, And I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a column after the game and I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to get a guy that can play now,

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<v Speaker 1>because you didn't even know if you had one. An

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<v Speaker 1>Xavier Woods. We think that he's pretty good, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>he's a good young prospect, and he didn't make a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of plays in training camp. But let's also remember

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<v Speaker 1>this about training camp. This team doesn't really throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball down the field in practice. They don't really stretch

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<v Speaker 1>the field. They don't really hurt you and make you

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<v Speaker 1>worried about the safeties, don't really have to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>the deep ball. So he's not gonna get tested. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to make a lot of plays, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can't the fault him a lot for that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>still don't know exactly what you have. You need to

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<v Speaker 1>get a guy that you do know what you have.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing about this situation is is that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a player out there that is that you know is good.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a player out there that wants to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>He fits under the salary cap for this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>there now is a glaring need. There's all of these

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<v Speaker 1>reasons of why four yes is usually mean hell yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just made it up, so calculations. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff today this I'm not back to school,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and we heard Stephen Jones talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit on a couple occasions at training camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think Steven kind of goes back and forth with

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<v Speaker 1>his in his mind. He's like, you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to pay a thirty year old but

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<v Speaker 1>he's really good, you know, but you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like It's like Earl Thomas breaks the rules of

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<v Speaker 1>what they typically don't want to do, which is pay

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<v Speaker 1>these guys and give him a third contract. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're six time pro bowler and you're in you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a position that this team really hasn't had a good player,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it kind of you can there's exceptions to

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<v Speaker 1>the rule. I think he's one of them that all

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<v Speaker 1>sounds really good. But I just keep going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the hear what you're saying, but yeah, well here's why,

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<v Speaker 1>here's why I think you're wrong. It goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>leverage for me, which is the Cowboys now have none, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the whatever impetus there was for Seattle to lower their

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<v Speaker 1>prices gone now at least in their mind, and oh

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<v Speaker 1>now you want it. Oh here's the other thing. If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being brutally honest, these guys like to think, or

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes maybe they actually are, but they like to think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're the smartest people in the room. And they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to like come to Seattle with their hat

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<v Speaker 1>in their hand like we're sorry, we'll pay whatever. They're negotiators, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they know how to negotiate. They're not going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not just gonna be like you were right, we

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<v Speaker 1>were wrong, we'll pay you like that's I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen. So I don't think this changes

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<v Speaker 1>much of anything except that they're like, crap, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get somebody, but probably not that um. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I mean Georgia Loca is like is like

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<v Speaker 1>manna from the heavens, because it's like, this isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to ruin our cap. He's you know, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to slow down Xavier Woods like you're saying he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a progress stopper. It reminds me a lot of Will Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>who twenty thirteen they said he didn't even he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even last long here, but that was because they had

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<v Speaker 1>a guy they felt good about in JJ Wilcox, which

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<v Speaker 1>I know JJ Wilcox never lit the world on fire,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was better than anything that's here right now

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<v Speaker 1>other than Heath. So that's what I'm thinking is try

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<v Speaker 1>to get him or or somebody like him, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>anybody left on the market. But I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>changes a whole lot. In terms of Earl Thomas, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of agree with, And I also think you can

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<v Speaker 1>sign him, and you know, it basically shows Seattle kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're talking. You know we're still We're still

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. Like if if you signed Georgia Loca

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<v Speaker 1>and Earl Thomas, situation still fell in your lap for

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<v Speaker 1>what they want, you still do it. I mean something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly what he would he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>command when it's all said and done. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders are interested in him too. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders have been interested in every free agent the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys have been interested today. But I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>salary he's going to command, But it won't be enough

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<v Speaker 1>to stop you if you can get a world materializes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And to be honest with you, I think a one

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<v Speaker 1>year deal makes a ton of sense from a standwoy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can get Georgia Local to sign here for

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<v Speaker 1>a one year deal. The beautiful part about that is

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas is a free agent after this year. So

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<v Speaker 1>then when you tell Seattle's we've already figured ours out

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<v Speaker 1>for this year, we don't need your guy. And now

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<v Speaker 1>you take back what Dave was talking about. You take

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<v Speaker 1>back that that leverage, so now you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do a deal with Seattle, and Seattle knows you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do it. Again with them, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>wait till he becomes a free agent. When he becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a free agent, if you want him, go get him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a perception that that Seattle and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>these people have watched the movie Draft Day, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a perception that Seattle sitting at a two

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<v Speaker 1>and the Cowboys don't want to pay it too. And

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<v Speaker 1>now that this guy got hurt, and now that they've

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<v Speaker 1>gone to a one, I don't think that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the case. I think that they're still probably

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<v Speaker 1>where they are. The Cowboys have to just come up

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<v Speaker 1>to that maybe, but I don't I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>this again, I don't know that the Cowboys feel like

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<v Speaker 1>again if it's especially if they can find a safety

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<v Speaker 1>that they can get some veterans safety that they think

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<v Speaker 1>they can bring in to add a body to give

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<v Speaker 1>them protection until the Xavier Woods is healthy again. Like

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<v Speaker 1>Dave said earlier, that play he made and he did

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<v Speaker 1>a similar thing against Seattle. Those are things that are

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<v Speaker 1>making the Cowboys I'm sure thinking, right, maybe we got

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<v Speaker 1>something this young guy, and this is what why we

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>drafted him is because we thought he had this playmaking ability.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should be going this year with him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, all things being considered, I think this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change anything from the cowboysspective's concerned. Georgia Loga hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>missed the start since twenty thirteen. He's got nine career

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<v Speaker 1>picks and three hundred and fifty career tackles. That's better

0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.160
<v Speaker 1>than anything you got. For all, I know, his play

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<v Speaker 1>has probably dipped again. For I know they say it's financial.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get cut if you're playing at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of your game. Now they do say five points six

0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.120
<v Speaker 1>million against the cap this year, so if they've got

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.640
<v Speaker 1>another option, that less than a million. But if he's

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<v Speaker 1>playing like Earl Thomas, you happily eat that money makes

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.240
<v Speaker 1>you have a great safety. So he's probably dipped. He's

0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 1>still better than a couple of undrafted free agent rookies.

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Now here's the other thing y'all didn't consider. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>boise steak guy. I was about to say, I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say that. Actually know well, I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I remember being at the Senior Bowl when

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.800
<v Speaker 1>he was there, and I remember he was another one

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<v Speaker 1>of the boise steak guys, and I remember the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>talking to him a lot, and so it made me

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<v Speaker 1>think that I'm sure they went to his pro day

0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>because I mean, they just probably lived there. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a Boysey scout. I want y'all to pay me to

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<v Speaker 1>go to boards to bring him to figure out what's

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 1>going on down to Boyse whole triangle like we did

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:48.720
<v Speaker 1>the Texas Triangle up there. It's just been a week. Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I boys is beautiful and you've been there, No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know, I just know it is. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to the blue Field. I would love to go to

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<v Speaker 1>right now yeah, I agree. All right, let's take our

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<v Speaker 1>let's get back into it. Let's talk something about this game.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Dak Prescott. This week he was ten

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<v Speaker 1>of fifteen eighty six yards one touchdown, buying that with

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<v Speaker 1>last week his three or three for thirty nine yards

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<v Speaker 1>in a touchdown. He is thirteen of eighteen, seventy two

0:25:18.880 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>percent completion rate, one hundred and twenty five yards, two touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>no interceptions, and in four possessions. As Dave so aptly

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<v Speaker 1>pointed out on Twitter, he's had four possessions in these

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>two preseason games, two touchdowns, one field goal, one punt.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>And he's done that without Zeke, without Cole Beasley, without

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<v Speaker 1>Tavon Austin for this last game. What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Zach, of Dak Prescott and how he's performing

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<v Speaker 1>in these games. I think it's very important that you

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned without Ezekiel Elliott. I think that that's huge play.

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Actions aren't the same when you're trying to fake it

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<v Speaker 1>to Rod Smith up the middle and fake it to Zeke.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know that, and you also know

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that I don't think Dak's gonna run as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he would in the regular season. He did

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>in the first game, there was a chance in the

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>second game. I don't believe I believe he would have

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<v Speaker 1>run in a regular game. And because it ended up

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.679
<v Speaker 1>being an interest, I mean, an incompletion, he forced it

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>to Blake Jarwin to go up and make a play.

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only one tight end is going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that, so I don't think it would be him.

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Ut they're not playing the same type of game and

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.479
<v Speaker 1>they're still being effective. I think I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign. I think he looks great. Yeah, um

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 1>and yeah. It hasn't been perfect. I wrote in my

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 1>story on Saturday night, he missed Jarwin. Um he I

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>think it was. He loves Blake Jarwin by the way

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>he's I think he's targeted him thirty percent of the

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>snaps that he's been on. You know that he's thrown

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the ball. Um, he missed him wide again. He made

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a really questionable throw on a comeback route where the receiver,

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean the dB had good positioning on it and

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>it could have been a pick. Like, He's not perfect

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<v Speaker 1>by any stretch, but I think he's been good. He's

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>led the offense. Uh. You know, Brian brought Us always

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>gives him so much credit for his sleight of hand

0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in his play fakes. I thought the work he did

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on the screen to Rod Smith was incredible, Like he

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>basically gave himself up to make that play successful by

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>holding onto the ball long enough to get Rod Open.

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>He's been moving the offense. They're averaging ten plays per

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>possession when he's in there, and that's you know, I know,

0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:22.640
<v Speaker 1>you wonder about explosiveness. I think they averaged five point

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.600
<v Speaker 1>seven yards per completion in this game, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>six point eight over the two games, which isn't amazing,

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's not this offense. It's just not. Even in

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, Dak threw it long to Dez a few times,

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but that's not what this offense is predicated on. And

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>when you mix it with the fact that Zeke hasn't

0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.920
<v Speaker 1>been in there, I think it's looked really good overall.

0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the things I was going to mention,

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the fact that you're able to move this offense without

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>relying on Zeke. And again Rod Smith, he does a

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>great job and he's been doing great. But when you're

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>not running the ball, he's still Dak is still able

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>to move down the ball. And is it flashy, No,

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>But the point is get to these I think it's

0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.360
<v Speaker 1>flashy and its efficiency though, like it's again, this isn't yeah,

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 1>this isn't like this big play, quick strike offense, and

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that's you can come at me and say, well, that's

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>why they sucked last year, Like that was this offense

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>in sixteen two. That's what they do. That's what they've done,

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and it works, especially works when Zeke's out there doing

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>his thing, which is why I was so preoccupied when

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought Zack Martin was done for the year, because

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that's going to hurt your ability to do that. You're

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be successful playing this way, you need that line.

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.199
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, would people magically feel better if he

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>had hit Blake Jarwin on that one play? You know, like,

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>if that one throw magically makes you feel that much better,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>then I think that's flawed thinking. Yeah, I think, But

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I do think that at some point they're gonna need

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to show some some speed down the field and that

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>will happen. I mean, these guys can get down the field,

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but for the majority, you're going to see these curls

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>where Hearns is just sitting there and available, and Terrence

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Williams the same way, and very very little Tavon Austin

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>so far in this preseason. He's going to be moving

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>around and avoiding plays and then there's a tight end

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 1>or one of these receivers just sitting there and it's

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>going to be nine yards, turn up the field, get

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 1>two more yards and you're moving the chains and it's

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not flashy. You know. What I really like about

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Dak too, is the fact that he's able to think.

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 1>He I mean, yes, he might not be as precise

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>with his passes how as you liked him to be,

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but he thinks. He just doesn't get rid of the ball,

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and I know you want to get rid of the

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>ball quickly, but he does it in a smart way.

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And and the fact that he's able to run and

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball at the same time as well as

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>thinking and trying to figure out who his target is

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be. I love that about him. And yes he's

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>not a perfect but those are the qualities that it's

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>still gonna get you somewhere. The biggest way, the biggest

0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:52.640
<v Speaker 1>person that's going to help him become Dak friendly is Dak.

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean he knowing the offense and knowing exactly where

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that guy's gonna be. And let's not put this all

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 1>on Daz on Daz's routes and stuff like that. I mean,

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but I do think that there are some not just

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>the other players, but Dak knowing this guy's going to

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>be sitting right here. So when I can get this

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>big lineman out of my face and get over here

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and open up this window, there, Alan Hearns will be

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>You think about this in terms of explosive and chunk

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>plays too, I mean, like you know, touchdowns from twenty

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>or more yards away, like that's a rare thing in

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the NFL. You can probably count on Zeke for four

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to six of those per year based on his track record,

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>whether that's screen passes or long runs. And then the

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>rest of it is gonna be methodical. And if Tavon Austin,

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gallop and whoever, if the receivers can combine for

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>another five that's all I'm looking for, and then the

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>rest of it is going to be this methodical style

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>of offense. So I'm happy to see that the bread

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and butter looks like it's working, and then you need

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to see that explosive element. But adding in other starters

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and I think that'll come together as you go, especially

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>jam Yeah. I mean, well, like I'm saying, what, you

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>probably score for more than twenty yards out eight to

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>ten times per season, maybe, and I think they can

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>make up for that difference. By adding Zeke and when

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you look at two long, when you look at two

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>thousand and sixteen, that was exactly what they were doing.

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>That drive that they ended up having that was sixteen

0:31:19.120 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>plays and I think eighty two yards and like eight

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>plus minutes. That's how they made their living in twenty sixteen.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what they're looking to do. That's

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the beauty of this offense is when you have that

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>dominant and offensive line, that dominant or runner, then you

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>want to have those long guys. It makes your defense

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 1>better than on top. Did you did? I mean Dez

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>probably scored three or four touchdowns of twenty five or

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 1>more yards that season, and they need a guy that

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>can do that. But between Tavon Gallup, Hearns, maybe Deontay Thompson, whatever,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>He'll get a few. Somebody can make up for that.

0:31:51.520 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Somebody can it. Almost and I said this on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>it almost became the worst sixteen play drive ever because

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<v Speaker 1>if it would have been eleven plays or twelve plays

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and you get a field goal and not lose your

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>starting guard, right, I mean that's why I said it, like,

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a great drive right now if if he

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 1>there's bad news coming out of that medical tent. Then

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>this was a really horrible drive. That was my tweet.

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>It was about as perfect as he can get, except

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 1>for the fact that I just put be good there.

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<v Speaker 1>If if preseason is for shaking off the rust, I

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>love that this offense can average ten yard ten plays

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>every time they go out there, like we haven't seen

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen a three and out from the starters yet.

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>That's great in my opinion. Without Zeke Let's flip to

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>the to a little later in the game, Cooper Rush

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>comes in and he goes six of nine for thirty

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>seven yards, not a touchdown. Are you at all I

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't even say concern, because I don't think concerns the

0:32:41.800 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>right word at this point, but it seemed to me,

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it seemed to me that the offense wasn't as efficient

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 1>when Cooper was out there this last game. I think

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>he played really well against San Francisco though, so again,

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>with having that relatively small amount of experience, are you

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>more or less about the same concern with him being

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>your back up and being the next guy in the

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>event that your starter goes down This line, this backup

0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>line just sucks. I mean, they're just not any good

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and and I don't know how you can really evaluate

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>hardly anyone. I know that he did some decent things

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>last year. Um, I just I don't know. I'd like

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 1>to see I'd like to see Dak play behind this. Wow,

0:33:21.560 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not really I don't want to. I mean, I

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think they can block very long. I just don't

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 1>think this is a really good set up. I don't

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think these guys are really going to be

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL on other teams, maybe on you know,

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just don't see it. I just don't

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>see these guys really helping. So it's hard to evaluate

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>what Cooper Rush is trying to do. Yeah, I agree

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>with that, and that's you know, we talked about it

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>following the forty nine Ers game. I'm not trying to

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>take anything away from Cooper, but he got better as

0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.720
<v Speaker 1>the game went on, and I think you could argue

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>lesser players started subbing in. These guys just looked overmatched

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 1>in that second half. Let's also not forget too and

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 1>now Looney was an exception, but you know, when you

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:13.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have your star running back, and you don't have

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.279
<v Speaker 1>your starting center, and you don't have a guard for

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>most of the time, and a couple of your wide

0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.319
<v Speaker 1>receivers are out in Austin and Beasley, so then the

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>DAK is playing with some backups. And then when it

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 1>gets the time for Cooper Rush, he's playing with the

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>third running back. He's playing with in some cases your

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 1>third center and your third receivers, so it's not even

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a true backups because your starters were out and they

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>all had to move up. The funny thing for me

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>is I was going to say, let's throw Cooper out

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>there with the starters against Arizona, but I don't want

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to play any starters, so it'll probably look the same

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>just earlier in the game. Well, and even when we

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 1>saw him in San Francisco. I mean, he was better

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in that game than this past game. Definitely. And again

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you look and it goes back to the guys that

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.799
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about being in and subbing for him. I

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>think that Cooper, if you were to put him behind

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>the same old line, the first team old line, he

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>would be just what you need in a backup, I think.

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 1>So all right, let's go ahead and take our final break.

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:14.320
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, I want to talk about Rico gathers.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that this conversation is one that we've talked

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>about before, but it continues and it continues to be

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>a topic of conversation because he continues to make these

0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>little plays every once in a while. I keep you interested.

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.399
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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you guys joining us. All Right, so we've got

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>we've got one big topic that I didn't get a

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>chance to hit yet. So I want to spend a

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>little time on this, Rico gathers um I think the

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:47.800
<v Speaker 1>way I want to set this up. First of all,

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.320
<v Speaker 1>he continues to make these plays, and we talked about

0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>this last week when we were talking about whether he

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>makes the fifty three or not. They'll continue to be

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>these moments and the very isolated moments like you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>one a practice, or you'll get one every three practice, says,

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>or you'll get one in a preseason game. But there

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>are plays that are so remarkable that they we're talking about,

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and in my opinion, plays that are so remarkable that

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 1>it makes you wonder is this enough for the Cowboys?

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>As saying, we gotta keep him around just to see

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>how much more he can develop. But I wanted to

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>start with a quote that Jerry gave last week about

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>Rico gathers and I want to get your thoughts on it,

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 1>he said at a point, and I'm not so sure

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that we're at that point. If he can be consistent

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 1>on a personal basis, then I'll give him the time

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>he needs to make those kinds of plays. We talk

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>about red zone plays and being a weapon in the

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>red zone. He's certainly that he's making those highlight catches

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>because of his obvious talent and physical advantage size, leaping ability, strength, hands,

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.879
<v Speaker 1>all that. He blocks well when he's blocking the right man.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 1>He's got enough there. But the inks comes when you're

0:39:54.320 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>sitting there looking at the guy that's not on the

0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>roster because you kept him on the roster. A lot

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>to unpack there. The first part I'd go to is

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 1>when he mentions if he can be consistent on a

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>personal basis. You know, the first time you read you

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 1>read that, it made me think that this is like

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>he's talking about like a Randy Gregory or somebody off

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>the field. I don't think this is an off the

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>field thing. I think this is just it's his personality there.

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if it's that. I just think

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it's if him doing the right thing, like blocking the

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 1>right guy and the assignments and that kind of stuff.

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Um that goes along with not being you know, a

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>football player for a long time. I don't I hear

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.720
<v Speaker 1>that last thing that he said, and I'll just flip it.

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who is the player that you cut for him?

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 1>And there's not never really, I mean maybe one guys

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be one guy that he is cut, like

0:40:46.040 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>we're cutting him and were keeping him. I bet you

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you won't feel as sick as you would if you

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>kept this guy and Rico goes and catches forty five

0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>passes for somebody else for the for the bucks. I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't think you. I think you'd be sick

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>your stomach knowing that it ends a position you're trying

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to rebuild, especially you know it's not only that, but

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.240
<v Speaker 1>he's given you so many glimpses of that ability. Unless

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy you cut was Tapper, another guy that's a

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick and and you know maybe you know

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>you've kind of waited on him as well, that that

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>would be one if it comes down to that situation.

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>But I wouldn't feel I mean, I wouldn't feel bad

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.600
<v Speaker 1>about just cutting another guy. I think he makes the team. Honestly,

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I think you have to keep him on

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the team. I promise I'm not taking this where it

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>sounds like I'm going to take it, So just bear

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.360
<v Speaker 1>with me, all right. But this situation reminds me a

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of our current political climate in this country, which

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.360
<v Speaker 1>is there's two sides. They're pretty dug in and firmly

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>believe what they believe, and I just don't think there's

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>middle ground here. The people like the people who want

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>to move on from Rico are not going to be

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>swayed that he's a guy worth keeping around. And the

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>people who think Rico's the next Antonio Gates are not

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be swayed because he keeps doing stuff like

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that he takes the ball off the top of a

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>cornerback's head. And then for every time he takes the

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 1>ball off a cornerback's head, he's supposed to run a

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>mesh play and runs in the wrong direction and messes

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.759
<v Speaker 1>up his pick and messes the whole play up. And

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>everybody sees that and says, see, this guy doesn't know

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing. Trustworthy, who cares if he can take

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the ball off the cornerback's head. If you don't have

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>any faith that he knows what he's doing when he

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 1>lines up, and so there's no there's no middle ground here,

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and the people like nobody's coming across the aisle on this,

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, we're gonna play this thing out for two

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>more weeks and the cowboys are gonna make a decision.

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Honestly at this point, I don't know what it is,

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna make it and it'll be over. Maybe

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but there has to be a firm

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>decision on September second, one way or the other. Yeah,

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of the tough part here is that when

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you hear Jerry say that about you know, the personal basis,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>and then when he comes back later and says, you know,

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.319
<v Speaker 1>he blocks well when he's blocking the right man, it

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.680
<v Speaker 1>gives us an It kind of illuminates for us that

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the problem here is that it doesn't that he always

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 1>knows what his assignment is. And to me, knowing your

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>assignment is as simple as studying. That is not like

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>not being able to carry out your assignment if you

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>miss a block, if you know you can't get open,

0:43:11.440 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>like those are things that that's just a matter of

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>your talent. Do you have the talent to do it?

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>But everybody should be able to know their assignment if

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>they get into it and they work hard enough to

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>understand what their assignment is right. And that to me

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>is where I start wondering if if you've had him

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>around here for over a year now and he's still

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>not being able to get that part of it. Is

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 1>this a situation where he doesn't work hard enough at

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.240
<v Speaker 1>really understanding his assignments so that he at least gets

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that part down, and if he doesn't do it right,

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:41.960
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't do it right, but at least be able

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>to know what you're supposed to do right. Yeah, And

0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I think, I mean what it's upsetting to me is

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>you talk about the studying and all that he was

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>out a whole year with a concussion and not playing,

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>or that that was your perfect time of really diving

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>in and studying the game and studying everything that you

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 1>need to learn to be able to come back now,

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and that whatever it is that you're doing, it's not

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>about knowledge anymore, it's about you putting it into practice.

0:44:08.680 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he should have the knowledge right now, and

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>that catch that he made in the game, Yes, fantastic,

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>but he goes back to the size that he has.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 1>He's an athlete, he's a monster, and we all know that.

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.879
<v Speaker 1>But what help does it give you when he's only

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.799
<v Speaker 1>making one play at a time, let's say, per game.

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:30.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it could be a touchdown that could

0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>change the game. But at the same time, can you

0:44:33.520 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 1>rely on someone that is as inconsistent as he is.

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>He's a goal line player right now, and it's not

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>about making the fifty three because they can figure out

0:44:43.280 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>a way to get him on the fifty three. But

0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>if you're not going to figure out a way to

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 1>get him on the forty six, then what's the point

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.239
<v Speaker 1>because he's got to do those things in the game. Well,

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:54.839
<v Speaker 1>isn't the point though, that you keep him for more

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 1>time to see if he does develop again we are

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>working against and I know Amber has a big problem

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.160
<v Speaker 1>with this. You explain all that last week about the

0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>whole idea of keep waiting for that potential to show up.

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But I think you cannot. You can't over emphasize, in

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>my opinion opinion, that this is a guy that didn't

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>play college football and I think that matters. And so

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>if you keep him on the fifty three and you

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>can't find a way to get him to the forty six.

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.000
<v Speaker 1>You still do keep his rights and you give him

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time. Get true. But again, and

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I keep going to this example. It's like when you

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 1>see all the freaking tight ends running and turning right

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>catching the ball, and then he's last, he runs and

0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>turns left catching the ball. I mean, I mean, are

0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you paying attention? Are you watching what they're doing? And

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>I know, paying attention, you would know. Your point is

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>if you just watch the other guys, you would know it.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know, but I'm just saying, if I'm

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.640
<v Speaker 1>really learning and I'm watching you guys do this drill

0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm doing it after you guys, I'm freaking in

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pay attention and know where I'm gonna go.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just I know about instincts and all that,

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:56.080
<v Speaker 1>and you just gain instincts through playing. But at the

0:45:56.080 --> 0:45:58.839
<v Speaker 1>same time, when it's something that's basic us turning right

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>or left. I mean, I feel like you kind of

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>contradicted your points though, because you said last week and

0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you're saying it now that that you know he at

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 1>this point he should he should learn it. He should

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>know it, but he also missed the whole season last year.

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>This is really only his second year because he didn't

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>practice all of last year, which is which that are

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>you sitting on a couch the whole time? Can you

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:23.959
<v Speaker 1>not move around? I don't know what he was doing.

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>He was in the dark tenth the whole time. I

0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.359
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm just saying to Derek's point. When it

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>comes to knowledge, yes, certain things you'd learn on the

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:34.240
<v Speaker 1>field by actually doing. But as far as knowing where

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to go, I mean those are that's information that he's

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.919
<v Speaker 1>able to get from the staff here and be able

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 1>to study on his own. I really I don't feel

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 1>comfortable questioning or criticizing people's work ethic because personally, I mean,

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, people a lot of times view me as

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a slacker, and I work really hard, even whatever image

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I might project. I'm being sorry, whatever image I might project,

0:46:56.920 --> 0:46:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not the whole truth. And that's insulting to me

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>when people will think that just because I act that

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>way doesn't mean I don't bust my butt. So I'm

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>not trying to criticize Rico gathers work ethic. But this

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 1>is his third year and his third training camp with

0:47:10.080 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the same offensive coordinator and the same schemes, and for

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, he does not have a great grasp of

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.479
<v Speaker 1>the offense to the point where they trust him in

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>every situation. And that's you know, I know there's people

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.920
<v Speaker 1>out there that think it's like a conspiracy theory. You

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>can go watch the games and you know, hey, shameless plug,

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 1>go buy NFL game paths. You can see the real

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>view of these things and see that to be true.

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't always handle his assignments the right way. So

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I think there's some validity to that. And I think again,

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you always have to look at this in the context

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of the coaching staff, because we know their patterns, we

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>know what they want. That is something that they value

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot. Me personally, I don't think it's that crazy

0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to think that you find a way to utilize him

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>on special teams and if he's a goal line and

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.759
<v Speaker 1>red zone player only, certainly there has to be a

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.759
<v Speaker 1>way to make that work. Like I'm gonna pick on

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Noah Brown just because it comes to my head, but like,

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>is Noah Brown that he's just so vital as a

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.880
<v Speaker 1>blocking receiver that that he has to be active and

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Rico can't be active and you take away that mismatch

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:19.319
<v Speaker 1>opportunity in the red zone. I don't necessarily believe that.

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's stubbornness on the coaching staff's

0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>part that they insist that he has to be completely

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>trustworthy to have a role on this team. Having said that,

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>they make the decisions at the end of the day,

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and if that's how they feel, that's what they're gonna do.

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>That's that was kind of my point at the beginning,

0:48:35.160 --> 0:48:39.720
<v Speaker 1>is it's all just so much sound and fury signifying nothing.

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 1>First day of school. How about that. It's like, we

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 1>can argue about this till we're blue in the face,

0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.359
<v Speaker 1>and people who are pro Rico and people who are

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.400
<v Speaker 1>anti Rico both have a point yea, but they're like,

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>they're just gonna make their decision. I don't know that

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. That all being said, the fact that Jerry

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>was so explicit in what he said about him and

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>very I think very specific, I personally believe that this

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 1>was Jerry shooting across the bot to let him know,

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 1>we really want you to make this team, but you

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.279
<v Speaker 1>right now, you're giving us too much reason not to

0:49:08.280 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 1>put you on this team and you better step it up,

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 1>and you say, you can't criticize his work ethic, but

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 1>you can criticize the results. And what we know about

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:17.560
<v Speaker 1>it right now is the results are that he is

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 1>extremely from what we can tell, very very inconsistent in

0:49:22.040 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>just the assignment. And that's the part I think that

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that could platoon him at this point. I think he

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>we've already said that we don't think this is going

0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:32.879
<v Speaker 1>to be a true dress rehearsal. I think this game

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:35.879
<v Speaker 1>he needs to play. I would say the whole game,

0:49:36.239 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 1>from start to finish. I mean, because you think they'd

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>give him that opportunity when they need to get these

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 1>young inexperienced tight ends reps as well. That's that's I mean,

0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that are they gonna they're gonna get

0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the reps with the with the start first team offense

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:49.759
<v Speaker 1>with Dak. I don't even know if that if Dak

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:51.960
<v Speaker 1>doesn't play the game, even if they don't, but you

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:53.759
<v Speaker 1>still want him out there getting them the reps. So

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 1>if here's my assignment, let me do my assignment, right.

0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>That's they're inexperience. That's the hard part with all of this.

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.560
<v Speaker 1>If you still had Jason well, it's gonna be a

0:50:00.600 --> 0:50:02.799
<v Speaker 1>little bit weird analogy because if you still have Jason,

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.120
<v Speaker 1>then Jason's gonna come off the field after the first

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, first a bit and whatever. But I guess

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the point is you got young guys that you're trying

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 1>to develop in addition to Rico Gathers, So you can't

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 1>even say just give him a lot of reps because

0:50:15.719 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>then you're taking reps from other guys that need to

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:20.280
<v Speaker 1>develop that you actually think which are gonna be playing season.

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Then I don't play Swain and play Jarwin and Chult,

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and then he'll still get in the mix with just

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.440
<v Speaker 1>doing that right there, You don't have to play Swain.

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:32.120
<v Speaker 1>That is I mean, And that's that's the crux of

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 1>this issue. It really is is I'm sure, like privately,

0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>away from microphones, Jason Garrett would probably say, these three

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>guys like these are the like you're gonna have to

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>pull on the goal line and get to your block

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>so Zeke can score a touchdown when we're down by

0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:49.919
<v Speaker 1>four in the fourth quarter. You need practice doing that

0:50:50.239 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and now, and again off the record, you'd probably say,

0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>we know Rico's not picking that up between now in

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:57.359
<v Speaker 1>September ninth, he would it would have happened by now.

0:50:57.360 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 1>He's not magically just going to become this relyable guy

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>doing the dirty work between now and then, and so

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>some mean the guys that are gonna be doing that

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 1>need the reps. At the same time, he's an awfully

0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>intriguing talent that you would love to know what you

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.080
<v Speaker 1>have in him. He's an amazing athlete. I mean, it's

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't I really don't think there's a completely right

0:51:18.880 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>answer to it. That's why I'm just kind of resigned,

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like I can come up with a really good case

0:51:22.840 --> 0:51:25.799
<v Speaker 1>for why it makes ye to make a really good

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 1>case for why it's intriguing to keep him on the right.

0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I just know that people in San Diego will tell

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 1>you Antonio Gates didn't block anyone for years. I mean,

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Witten has has said it before. Now, different type of player,

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>but not only different type of player, but a different

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>type of offense. Like if this team had Philip Rivers,

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 1>we would be writing Rico's name on paper and sharpie.

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>But you that's again going back to ten play drives,

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:54.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, short passes, sustaining possession, running the ball, any

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.560
<v Speaker 1>mistake by guy blocking that now gives you negative yards

0:51:57.680 --> 0:52:00.920
<v Speaker 1>kills that momentum. Type of player that fits this scheme

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.640
<v Speaker 1>and maybe in a red zone or goal line role, sure,

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 1>but as the every down tight end, it doesn't make

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:07.719
<v Speaker 1>a ton of sense for what you're trying to do

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 1>with the rest of your office. They had a star

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver on this team that still was trying to

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>learn the offense after eight great point he was way

0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>as good as as much of an athlete as we

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>think Rico is. He was ten times the athlete that

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Rico is. In my opinion, he was. He was at

0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:23.279
<v Speaker 1>his prime. He was way better than what Rico is.

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes he was. But but when you get down

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>to the goal line, you know he I think Rico

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>can do those kinds of things, and you get him

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 1>in a mismatch and you may not even throw it

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to him, but you're gonna have to. He's gonna have

0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 1>to take somebody away. And I like that. I love

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>that concept. But I started thinking about it like this

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>the other day. Even even if you keep Rico and

0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you put him in the reds, if he's a red

0:52:43.600 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>zone target for you, he's still what your fourth option

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 1>down there, like Zeke's still your your best option when

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>you get down in gold and what the defense does

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:57.680
<v Speaker 1>if they get that third down. I understand that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying no when you when you think about if

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<v Speaker 1>we're down in goal to go situations, what are our

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<v Speaker 1>best options to get in the end zone. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke is first, I think Dak is probably second, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could probably make the argument that one

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<v Speaker 1>of the receivers, whichever one, may be a better or

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<v Speaker 1>more consistent option as the third. So at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>for that number of reps and for that few times

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<v Speaker 1>in those situations that you would use him, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, can you even get him into on the

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<v Speaker 1>forty six where he's actually available to you to be

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<v Speaker 1>a red zone coping too many options? It's not always

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<v Speaker 1>a bad thing. I get that. Though, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I'm not being sarcastic at all. I

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<v Speaker 1>love like I love the fact that we just burned

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<v Speaker 1>a whole segment of this show on the guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>fourth on the depth chart. But I also saved that

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<v Speaker 1>to the third segment because I knew we would burn

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<v Speaker 1>the entire segment on it. It's a fascinating conversation. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>you know selfishly, I'm a little fatigued by it because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is year three of a very similar conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the expectations are a little different. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think anybody really expected him to blow up in year one,

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<v Speaker 1>and then year two you had the injury mystery whatever

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<v Speaker 1>that was. Um, but it's the same debate of potential

0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 1>verse production to this point, Sweat and he's noticing a

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<v Speaker 1>little report up on the h On the report Earl

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas from from the uh No, it said it just

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<v Speaker 1>said that he's he's paid or he's a crewed one

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<v Speaker 1>point two million dollars. Fine, yeah, for the hold out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, this isn't about Earl. Well, yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He could get into camp and play, so yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's from the standpoint of ultimately Earl can't make the

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<v Speaker 1>decision here, right is a This is a Seattle Seahawk

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<v Speaker 1>decision and a cow I think. And to wrap this

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing up, I think the Cowboys, with all the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that they've got injury wise, at safety and knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that they need guys that could come in and play

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<v Speaker 1>and know this system, I would go in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would I would go back. I would move it

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit to what they where they had

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<v Speaker 1>I would move up just before in the show. That

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<v Speaker 1>was another interesting note that just came up. Adrian Peterson's

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<v Speaker 1>expected to sign with the Washington Redskin. So Howboys fans

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<v Speaker 1>will get to see him twice a year. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I tweeted this place. I like Jeff Heath's chance is

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<v Speaker 1>better this time around. Yeah, I do too, I do too.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We're back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna stick at the same time tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be up at two pm, and then later in

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<v Speaker 1>the week we're gonna go move to the morning. So

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<v Speaker 1>just check the website. We've got a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>going on this week that affect that schedule, but we

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<v Speaker 1>will have the schedule up for you to see what

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<v Speaker 1>time will be on each day till then. For Nicki

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<v Speaker 1>Minamber Garcia, David Hellman, I'm Derek Eagles and this has

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