WEBVTT - Questlove Show Mini: An In-Studio Catch-Up 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:14.120 Quest Love Show is a production of iHeart Radio. What's 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:14.600 going on? 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.040 This is cousin Jake, one of the producers of The 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.960 Questlove Show, and this season we kicked things off back 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.360 in November with Open Mike Eagle, an artist that Quest 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.360 You've been super supportive of. You guys did a whole 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.880 season of a podcast together, and you guys spoke for 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.639 like two hours, but I think I spoke for. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:37.520 Two hours full disclosure. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:39.800 I mean the comments on that, and I'm the guy 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.800 that has to read the hate mail, the love mail, 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:43.920 the suggestion. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:49.800 That was the ishtar of no way, yeah Way. 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:52.839 It was the they went in on me, no you know, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.520 And I explained to people that y'all just caught me 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.880 in a very dark week. I was kind of dealing 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.360 with the D'Angelo situation the time that I couldn't share 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:01.880 and so. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.119 Is I remember it that taped, not it didn't run 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.920 terribly long after we taped, but I was getting ready 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:12.119 for it. And that was the day you released your 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.640 Instagram like public statement and you had a series of 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:17.600 videos and then I always imagine like you turn your 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.280 phone off, so you sat down and you were a 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.440 phenomenal listener about that and you spoke about how life 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.920 almost sent you down a psychology path or yeah, And 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.119 I mean what's interesting is the comments. Yes, some people 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:32.760 said more than another episode's Yo questlove man, let the 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.600 guy talk. I know, but you know that was thirty 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.280 five percent sixty five percent where people like this is 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:45.360 an evolved, high frequency conversation between two men, two artists. Nevertheless, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.480 we wanted to continue that here with kind of a 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.560 special announcement we can make in a few minutes. But 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.240 you know, Mike, how are you? 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.680 I'm chilling? You know, I'm good. I'm happy to be here, 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.160 you know, happy to be here working, always making stuff 0:01:59.280 --> 0:01:59.920 all the time. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.000 But what are you working on now? 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.840 Oh? I did just I just finished another album, like 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:09.520 I just finished the Master. I got the Master's approved 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.079 this week, So I'm excited about that. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:13.000 I envy that. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.720 Well, well, I mean, you know, it's just me really, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.320 so I don't have as many things to oversee and 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:21.480 monitor and tweak as you. You know, y'all got a 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.799 lot of things going on over there, so who could 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.560 blame me? Before it taking a little longer. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:26.720 Than I'm overthinker. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.280 You already established I'm the overthinker and you're the hard guy, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.480 and I'm trying to get to that place over think too. 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.760 But it's just it's a lot easier when I'm overthinking 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.880 by myself. It's a lot easier, Honestly, I don't have 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.120 to have as many conversations. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.760 Well, I'm very excited because I've definitely decided that you 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.400 are probably the voice in my head. You're the voice 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.000 in my hip hop head. Like every line you say, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:50.280 I'm like, yeah. 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:51.919 That's how I feel. That's how I feel too. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.160 It's like the last time I did that was probably 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.200 watching Love on the Spectrum. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.600 Hey I do that that show. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:01.640 Damn that's me too, you know. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:03.880 So yeah, I want to even ask you about that. 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.160 I mean, you know, our purpose here was to continue 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.400 some of that discussion. And I'm sitting in because you're 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.720 a voice that folks might hear and maybe see in 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.000 this case on some of these mini episodes. But I 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.080 just want to know what your daily listening diet is like. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.720 So on this album, that's interesting. 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:19.680 You got Michigan Jay Wonder, that's the song I keep 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.720 coming back, and you've got the you know, the homage 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.440 to boot Camp click in there right, And I'm like, man, 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.280 this guy listens like, I just imagine you really latching 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.520 on to I'm not going to say deep cuts, but 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.360 I'm just curious what your music diet is. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.560 Like, that's really interesting. Like right now I'm in a 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.800 phase of listening to this band called XTC. You familiar with. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:45.160 Oranges and Lemons helped me, see they were in my 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.720 label mates at Geffen. So again, we would raid the 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:51.520 closets at Geffen. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:52.600 Hey what's that over there? 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.960 Have canvas bags and then run the bleaker Bob's hopefully 0:03:58.000 --> 0:03:59.200 get forty fifty. 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:04.320 Dollars records you can go to. 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.960 You feel the stickers off at least the promo at all. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.240 Well, their version of it was put the little whole 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.680 punch or the whole punch. Yeah, but oftentimes but even then, like, uh, 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.920 you know, Sonic you've admitted and uh, weez Are admitted 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.440 they did the same thing. So you're getting which your 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:23.279 album in particular. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.240 So Mummer is the one I've been listening to over 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.760 and over again, Okay, And I don't know if there's 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.120 a connection to the Mumbers Parade or anything like that, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:33.120 but I hope not. I mean it might, I don't 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.440 know who knows, But that's the one I've been running 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.840 over and over again. I always listen to this stuff 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.000 when I'm writing, like not writing rap, but like writing 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:44.040 TV film stuff. I listened to them a lot, Like 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.600 they put me in the right zone. So I've been 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:50.480 bumping Mummer over and over again. Orangeans and Lemons, Gosh, 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.560 just a few records by them that I can't remember 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:54.880 the name too right, but. 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.800 You still create that like see the experience of like 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.120 I got one in the car, Like I'm gonna keep 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:00.640 this album heavy rotation. 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.599 Yeah, I mean, and I listened to a lot. You know, 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.359 I'm listening to streaming, but I'm typically listening by an album, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.279 like I'll put on XGC album, put on a stereo 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:10.400 lab album like you know, Like that's typically my consumption 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.880 is is album based. When I'm in the mood to 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.840 listen to an album. Most of the time, I'm listening 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:18.320 to people talk on YouTube. That's what I'm listening to 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:19.960 the majority of the time. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.039 What do you listen to? 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.159 Oh? I listen to people talk about anything that I'm 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:29.560 interested in, whether it's music, professional wrestling, comic books, TV, film, 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:33.040 conspiracy theories. You know, things are getting real real these 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.720 days out here and with the government. So like I'm 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.960 doing a lot of deep dives along with people who 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.160 I'm not sure if they're experts or not, but they. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.920 Can you listen to somebody that you dislike or disagree 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:49.040 with for a long period. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.080 Of time, not disagree with. 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:51.760 No. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:53.839 I can listen to somebody I dislike, but I can't 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.279 necessarily spend a long time, like the type of attention 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.320 I give a YouTube video. If they keep saying stuff 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.880 I disagree with, I start talking back out loud, like 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.320 in my in my home, your inner Eric Manee is 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.160 about they start, and I can't. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.239 I want to get Eric Mana on QLs man because 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.200 this guy, I love him, Man, I love this Eric. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.240 Brittany's on the phone right now. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:21.160 Trying to I know that I'm probably still dipping my 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:25.400 toe into the world of YouTube, you know, because like 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.200 all the kids, of all the roots kids, the way 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:34.440 that YouTube consumes their lives, and you know these are 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.960 like some of them are watching actual like well whatever 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.640 the black nerd version of Jonathan Lipinski from Jerry Maguire, 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.720 you know, like Berson beefs and smell Fire, Like all 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.040 these nerdy Roots kids are like showing me some sort 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.200 of scientific thing that they saw on YouTube. I'm purposely 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:57.800 not jumping into the whole of YouTube the way that 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.840 I should because I'm I'm afraid you guys will never 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:02.559 see me again. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.600 I mean, well, what do you listen to me? You're 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.280 listening to music primarily. Do you listen to talk? Do 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.000 you listen to people? You listen to podcasts? 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.680 Like you want to know? Okay, let me you did this? 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:15.040 I don't. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.120 I'm gonna give you no. 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.200 And we can only play ten seconds of it if 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.160 it's I'm being mindful. Right. 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:24.760 Well, here's the thing, though, I'm being highly mindful of 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:25.880 what I do listen to. 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.960 You've been playing some amazing music while we've been on 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.000 this trip, Like you were playing Art Farmer yesterday. I 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.680 was like, damn yeah, I called it Freddy Hubbard. Yeah. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.640 I tend to gravitate towards the opposite of what I'm 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.480 going through right now creatively. All right, So to give 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:51.040 you a good example, like I will listen to this 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:55.600 for like like the second I get home. This is 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.280 the noise that is in my house for like the 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.720 next six seven hours. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:00.680 Are you meditating? 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.200 I just have to be in a meditative state because 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.320 the level of what I'm juggling right now, Like as 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.680 I'm speaking, I'm juggling at least six projects. So I 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:15.720 just pretty much listen to tones. I don't listen to music 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:19.080 much anymore because of what I do for a living, right, 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:20.480 I have to get that out my system. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.880 So that's precisely the reason why I'm typically not listening 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.800 to a lot of rap music these days, because that's 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.960 primarily what I'm making, primarily what I'm discussing when I'm 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.120 making my own YouTube videos and so like, there's so 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.840 much that happens in my mind when I hear a 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:39.480 rap song or rap album, it's got it's almost got 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.600 nothing to do with the music. I'm thinking about who 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.680 this is, where they're from, what label they're on, how 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.200 this music got to me. There's so much going on 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.800 in my mind because I'm so embedded in the industry, 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.360 even though you know, obviously not at the major label level, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.120 but it's just such a part of my life that 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.000 it gets in the way of my enjoyment of it. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.640 So typically I have to put on genres far away 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:00.360 from what I do. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.840 So you you just said you completed it. Now I'm 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.240 very curious, and I know you're very soon you go 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:10.280 overseas for a tour run. I'm always fascinated with this 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.160 with comedians of like putting new songs in their set. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.720 Will you perform songs that aren't out yet for your audience? 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.480 Yeah, I think I'm going to start that process this 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:21.400 time because I want to get used to playing them, 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.280 because I find a different relationship to songs when I 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.920 start playing them, So I don't want the first time 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.920 that I play these songs to be when it's the 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.319 release party, you know, So I want to get used 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:33.920 to seeing how some of them feel. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.320 And will you how much does the crowd dictate what 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.040 you think of that song? Are you able to. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:44.080 Just probably more than they should, Probably probably more than 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:45.800 they said. If they have a bad reaction to something, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.280 I'm going to think about that for a good long time, 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:49.160 even though. 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.600 Wait, how do you know they have a bad reaction 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.760 If they don't, if they're in different, if they're indifferent, 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.200 if they don't release energy at the time when I 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.440 feel like that should happened in the song, somebody say, oh, well, 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:02.680 I don't get I mean, you know my version of that, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.040 which is probably saying something a little bit a little 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.520 less traditional. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:09.679 No, no, no, I feel like, okay, whenever I'm on a zoom. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.199 Do you know about the Macbeth curse? 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:12.680 No? 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:13.680 Okay. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.000 If you are in a theater, you are to never 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.640 ever say the word Macbeth. 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:25.520 It's a centuries long kind of owning. Yeah. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.480 Matter of fact, if you go to a Broadway play 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:32.760 in New York when the theater's empty, they purposely leave 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:37.080 a single lamp with no shade and a single light 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.520 in the middle of the theater to sort of throw 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.240 it off the spirits of the curse or whatever. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:45.640 Matter of fact. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:50.640 The night of the Slap, the first thing that Chris 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:55.360 Rock says when he walks on stage is, Hey, Denzel Washington, 0:10:55.760 --> 0:11:02.080 I just want to congratulate you on your Oscar nominating turn. 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:08.280 And Makebeth and we all laugh like and then you 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.240 saw it hap them five minutes later. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.520 So what happens if you're doing a production of Macbeth 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.920 in the theater, Like what happens to question? 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.640 I think there is some sort of exemption there, but 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.040 you're to never ever say the words Macbeth inside of 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.360 the theater or else it'll be a curse. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.040 And so okay, now I just did it. I fell 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.000 down a rabbit hole and forgot why I brought. 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:34.000 This up about a zoom call. You were saying, oh, okay. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.679 So my version of that on a zoom call is 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.680 people will tend to say, and you know I do 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.480 a lot of pitches on zoom. They will say, well, 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:50.559 everybody's excited, so yeah, we'll reconvene next week, and everybody's excited. 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:54.760 A project will fall apart or never fall through. Literally 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.880 everybody's excited. Is the version of So how about those mets? 0:11:59.000 --> 0:11:59.200 Yeah? 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:03.760 No, I feel like somebody say, ho, and whose side 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.360 is live? Or I still see older? 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:10.240 I don't want to see it. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:10.840 I'm serious. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:16.679 I've seen many of my nineties contemporaries still do the whole. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.520 Yo say fuck, this side say fuck that's like. 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.719 Yeah, all the side things people in the crowd like 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:23.480 why are we fighting? 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:23.880 Right? 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.760 So, like, what is your version of engagement where you 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.160 know they're rocking with you? Because even like the eight 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.320 mile thing, I think is kind of or you know, 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:39.520 like the whole. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.280 Yeah, I don't. I mean, I have one song where 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.800 I do a hands up thing, but it comes at 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.679 the very end of my set and the song is 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.360 sort of built around it. In a way where it 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.480 makes a logical sense to do. It's not just like 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:48.760 a ram. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.080 You're an asshole if you don't do it. 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.439 I mean, it's yeah, it's like I'm taking a survey, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.640 you know what I'm saying. And by that point people 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:57.440 are either with it what I'm doing or they're not. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.000 So typically you know it, get a good amount of hand. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.600 It's at that point. But I don't want to be 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.400 asking for hands the whole time. I don't want to 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.680 be asking for noise. To me, the thing is to 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.080 like ask for those things without asking for because to me, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.880 the death knell is to be looking like I'm seeking 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.000 their approval. That to me is like if I give 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.560 them this sense that I need them to do anything, 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:20.480 then I've already lost. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.760 This is why to this day, The Roots have been 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:29.320 doing shows for thirty one years and we've never once 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:34.080 ended a song right right. Our show is like a say, 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.040 from beginning to end. I don't know why. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:38.560 It's just the idea of like. 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:45.320 Uh, you the same way, you know what. I think. 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.480 Ideally there's a version of my show that's like that, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.840 But I've never actually taken the time to put all 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.480 the interestitial pieces together. So I have like chunks of 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.800 show where like two or three songs kind of run 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.280 into each other and then I sort of stopped down. Dude, 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.120 maybe a little band and then start the. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.680 Next is your set? You know, I know every every 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.400 leg is different, but does your set change much nights tonight? 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.480 Not a whole lot. I mean it changes a lot 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.400 toward to tour, but night to night it doesn't change 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:12.880 that much. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:16.360 Interesting, and then what becomes of like Neighborhood Gods Unlimited 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.640 now that it's no longer the youngest born I mean 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:22.600 about it still is what what's your relationship? Because I 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.760 think you made this point when you were on you know, 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.880 this season earlier last year of like every album is 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.880 a different conversation piece for you, and it's a different 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.520 theme and you figure out what the theme is as 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.200 you work on the album. How does the relationship change 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:37.200 when the next album's out to the past? 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.480 I think, you know, what is an interesting question. I'm 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.560 not you know, able to say much about what this 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.160 next album is, but I'm. 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:45.600 Not asking that. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.160 But it's okay. I think it's an interesting thing you 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.440 bring up because you completed it's over. Yeah, but it's 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.560 you know, I'm not the only stakeholder in this situation. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.360 So I like to coordinate with folks. So when we 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.880 you know, when we when we make announcements to things. 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.600 But this album is like a it's basically like a 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.400 breakup album. So it's a conversation. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.960 Past the divorce album or past the divorce album. There's 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:08.480 a new one. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.600 There's a new one, damn it. But that was five 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.560 years ago. And that was six years ago. Damn So 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.800 a whole other thing stopped and started in between. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.280 Uh, some more Black Marry episodes. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.040 I mean, it's more life Ruin and that's not necessarily 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.240 Black Marry episodes. But but yeah, to. 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.960 Here my DearS in in a cannon. There it is. 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:31.320 And and the thing about it, you do a third one, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:32.640 You're the problem. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:37.320 I mean, I think the thesis of both of these projects. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.640 Am I the problem? 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:38.800 Right? 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:39.800 There's no question. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.960 But the thing about the Anime Truma Divorce album and 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.480 when I released in twenty twenty after my divorce, is 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.720 that because it was a pandemic, I didn't tour that album. 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:54.880 So I have worked those songs into live performances after 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.920 the world reopened. But this will be the first time 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.800 where I'm like Okay, this project centered around a very 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:06.600 specific thing. How do I strike the balance of having 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.720 this conversation and also working in my old stuff? 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.200 All right? So there's a question I'm donna know. All right. 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:17.720 So when Will Smith wrote his book, I asked him 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.400 the process of like, yo, you're really putting a lot 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:22.360 out there, and a lot of your stories have to 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.040 do with people in your life. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:26.840 Did you have to go? He says, yes. 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:31.160 I had a whole weekend where he invited. 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:31.960 Everybody over. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.280 And he read them the entire book over that three 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:40.880 day period, and if there was an objection or whatever, 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:42.960 people took a note, and then he did a one 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.280 on one to say, okay, like you know, chapter seven 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.120 you mentioned da da da da, and so he had 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:51.000 to get their blessings. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:54.680 Is that the same for you or no? 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.640 Because you know, in a book you kind of got 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.280 to say what happened, Right, I'm making songs. I'm not 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.680 saying what happened. I'm saying how I feel about what happened. 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:06.600 And I don't necessarily have to clear that with anybody. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.040 Do you play it for them first? 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:09.840 Just hell no? 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.399 So do you know what your ex wife's reaction was 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:12.879 to the album? 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.320 I told her that I made a divorce album, and 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.040 I told her what it was titled. And I told 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.000 her that I didn't put any details of anything in it. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.040 And she says she was okay with that, and that's 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.200 all the permission I needed. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:29.480 Does she listen to your music? 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:35.480 She used to. I couldn't blame her for not paying 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:42.200 at couldn't blame her at all. Boy, couldn't blame her. 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:42.440 Man. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:56.679 That's super exciting, you know, on the subject music I 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:58.680 always have. I mean, it's really cool to be sitting 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.240 here with you because over the years, in my previous lifetime, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.520 I always just wanted to talk to you. I music. 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:15.200 But there's one song yeah no right, yeah, Croiz, one 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.480 of my favorite songs, the last I guess it's ten years. 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.080 I was just looking to check the date, but it 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:22.679 is admitting the endorphined addition that was that was my 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.480 jump off on open Mike Eagle, Like it's funny enough, 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.480 like I knew people that knew you and had worked 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.840 with you and always said amazing things about your humanity 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.000 and your artistry. But when I heard that song, that 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.320 was the one that like, oh and that whole album, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.320 Just curious if you could just like unpack that because 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.600 I think for a lot of listeners of this platform, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.120 that is a great entry point. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.040 Huh okay, you know, like that was a song where 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.800 I'm an album a moment in my life, but a 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.400 song in particular where I'm sort of realizing, as many 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:54.320 of us were, what role the phone was playing in 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.160 my life. So there's Check to Check, which is another 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.880 song on that album about how I'm checking my phone 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.080 all the time and like, and I sort of got 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:06.760 at this underlying thing of like, oh, I'm getting these 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.080 little endorphin packets from all of these apps, from waiting 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.760 on these emails that are supposed to do yeah, like that, 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.399 And it was sort of just wrestling with that, like 0:19:17.520 --> 0:19:21.200 what hole am I trying to fill with these little 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:26.639 energy injections that come from these interactions with people in 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:29.360 the internet, you know, And and the whole song kind 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:30.879 of comes from that point. 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:34.920 Interesting. I got asked, like, what's your relationship with your phone? Now? 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:40.800