1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Quest Love Show is a production of iHeart Radio. What's 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: going on? 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: This is cousin Jake, one of the producers of The 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: Questlove Show, and this season we kicked things off back 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: in November with Open Mike Eagle, an artist that Quest 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: You've been super supportive of. You guys did a whole 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: season of a podcast together, and you guys spoke for 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: like two hours, but I think I spoke for. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Two hours full disclosure. 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean the comments on that, and I'm the guy 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 2: that has to read the hate mail, the love mail, 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: the suggestion. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: That was the ishtar of no way, yeah Way. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 4: It was the they went in on me, no you know, 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: And I explained to people that y'all just caught me 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: in a very dark week. I was kind of dealing 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: with the D'Angelo situation the time that I couldn't share 18 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 4: and so. 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: Is I remember it that taped, not it didn't run 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: terribly long after we taped, but I was getting ready 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: for it. And that was the day you released your 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: Instagram like public statement and you had a series of 23 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: videos and then I always imagine like you turn your 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: phone off, so you sat down and you were a 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: phenomenal listener about that and you spoke about how life 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: almost sent you down a psychology path or yeah, And 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: I mean what's interesting is the comments. Yes, some people 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: said more than another episode's Yo questlove man, let the 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: guy talk. I know, but you know that was thirty 30 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: five percent sixty five percent where people like this is 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: an evolved, high frequency conversation between two men, two artists. Nevertheless, 32 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: we wanted to continue that here with kind of a 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: special announcement we can make in a few minutes. But 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: you know, Mike, how are you? 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: I'm chilling? You know, I'm good. I'm happy to be here, 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: you know, happy to be here working, always making stuff 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: all the time. 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: But what are you working on now? 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: Oh? I did just I just finished another album, like 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: I just finished the Master. I got the Master's approved 41 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: this week, So I'm excited about that. 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I envy that. 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: Well, well, I mean, you know, it's just me really, 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: so I don't have as many things to oversee and 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 3: monitor and tweak as you. You know, y'all got a 46 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: lot of things going on over there, so who could 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: blame me? Before it taking a little longer. 48 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Than I'm overthinker. 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: You already established I'm the overthinker and you're the hard guy, 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: and I'm trying to get to that place over think too. 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: But it's just it's a lot easier when I'm overthinking 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 3: by myself. It's a lot easier, Honestly, I don't have 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: to have as many conversations. 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: Well, I'm very excited because I've definitely decided that you 55 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: are probably the voice in my head. You're the voice 56 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: in my hip hop head. Like every line you say, 57 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah. 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. That's how I feel too. 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: It's like the last time I did that was probably 60 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 4: watching Love on the Spectrum. 61 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: Hey I do that that show. 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: Damn that's me too, you know. 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, I want to even ask you about that. 64 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, our purpose here was to continue 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: some of that discussion. And I'm sitting in because you're 66 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: a voice that folks might hear and maybe see in 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: this case on some of these mini episodes. But I 68 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: just want to know what your daily listening diet is like. 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: So on this album, that's interesting. 70 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: You got Michigan Jay Wonder, that's the song I keep 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: coming back, and you've got the you know, the homage 72 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: to boot Camp click in there right, And I'm like, man, 73 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 2: this guy listens like, I just imagine you really latching 74 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: on to I'm not going to say deep cuts, but 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: I'm just curious what your music diet is. 76 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: Like, that's really interesting. Like right now I'm in a 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: phase of listening to this band called XTC. You familiar with. 78 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 4: Oranges and Lemons helped me, see they were in my 79 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: label mates at Geffen. So again, we would raid the 80 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: closets at Geffen. 81 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Hey what's that over there? 82 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: Have canvas bags and then run the bleaker Bob's hopefully 83 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: get forty fifty. 84 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: Dollars records you can go to. 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: You feel the stickers off at least the promo at all. 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: Well, their version of it was put the little whole 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: punch or the whole punch. Yeah, but oftentimes but even then, like, uh, 88 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 4: you know, Sonic you've admitted and uh, weez Are admitted 89 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: they did the same thing. So you're getting which your 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 4: album in particular. 91 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: So Mummer is the one I've been listening to over 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: and over again, Okay, And I don't know if there's 93 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: a connection to the Mumbers Parade or anything like that, 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: but I hope not. I mean it might, I don't 95 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 3: know who knows, But that's the one I've been running 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 3: over and over again. I always listen to this stuff 97 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 3: when I'm writing, like not writing rap, but like writing 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: TV film stuff. I listened to them a lot, Like 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 3: they put me in the right zone. So I've been 100 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: bumping Mummer over and over again. Orangeans and Lemons, Gosh, 101 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: just a few records by them that I can't remember 102 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: the name too right, but. 103 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: You still create that like see the experience of like 104 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: I got one in the car, Like I'm gonna keep 105 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: this album heavy rotation. 106 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I listened to a lot. You know, 107 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 3: I'm listening to streaming, but I'm typically listening by an album, 108 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: like I'll put on XGC album, put on a stereo 109 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: lab album like you know, Like that's typically my consumption 110 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: is is album based. When I'm in the mood to 111 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: listen to an album. Most of the time, I'm listening 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: to people talk on YouTube. That's what I'm listening to 113 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: the majority of the time. 114 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: What do you listen to? 115 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 3: Oh? I listen to people talk about anything that I'm 116 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: interested in, whether it's music, professional wrestling, comic books, TV, film, 117 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 3: conspiracy theories. You know, things are getting real real these 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: days out here and with the government. So like I'm 119 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: doing a lot of deep dives along with people who 120 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they're experts or not, but they. 121 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: Can you listen to somebody that you dislike or disagree 122 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: with for a long period. 123 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: Of time, not disagree with. 124 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: No. 125 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: I can listen to somebody I dislike, but I can't 126 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: necessarily spend a long time, like the type of attention 127 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: I give a YouTube video. If they keep saying stuff 128 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: I disagree with, I start talking back out loud, like 129 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: in my in my home, your inner Eric Manee is 130 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: about they start, and I can't. 131 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 4: I want to get Eric Mana on QLs man because 132 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 4: this guy, I love him, Man, I love this Eric. 133 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: Brittany's on the phone right now. 134 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 4: Trying to I know that I'm probably still dipping my 135 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: toe into the world of YouTube, you know, because like 136 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: all the kids, of all the roots kids, the way 137 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 4: that YouTube consumes their lives, and you know these are 138 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 4: like some of them are watching actual like well whatever 139 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: the black nerd version of Jonathan Lipinski from Jerry Maguire, 140 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 4: you know, like Berson beefs and smell Fire, Like all 141 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 4: these nerdy Roots kids are like showing me some sort 142 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: of scientific thing that they saw on YouTube. I'm purposely 143 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: not jumping into the whole of YouTube the way that 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 4: I should because I'm I'm afraid you guys will never 145 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 4: see me again. 146 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: I mean, well, what do you listen to me? You're 147 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: listening to music primarily. Do you listen to talk? Do 148 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: you listen to people? You listen to podcasts? 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: Like you want to know? Okay, let me you did this? 150 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't. 151 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you no. 152 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: And we can only play ten seconds of it if 153 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: it's I'm being mindful. Right. 154 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing, though, I'm being highly mindful of 155 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: what I do listen to. 156 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: You've been playing some amazing music while we've been on 157 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: this trip, Like you were playing Art Farmer yesterday. I 158 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: was like, damn yeah, I called it Freddy Hubbard. Yeah. 159 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: I tend to gravitate towards the opposite of what I'm 160 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: going through right now creatively. All right, So to give 161 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 4: you a good example, like I will listen to this 162 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 4: for like like the second I get home. This is 163 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: the noise that is in my house for like the 164 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: next six seven hours. 165 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: Are you meditating? 166 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: I just have to be in a meditative state because 167 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: the level of what I'm juggling right now, Like as 168 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: I'm speaking, I'm juggling at least six projects. So I 169 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: just pretty much listen to tones. I don't listen to music 170 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: much anymore because of what I do for a living, right, 171 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 4: I have to get that out my system. 172 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: So that's precisely the reason why I'm typically not listening 173 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: to a lot of rap music these days, because that's 174 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: primarily what I'm making, primarily what I'm discussing when I'm 175 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: making my own YouTube videos and so like, there's so 176 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: much that happens in my mind when I hear a 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: rap song or rap album, it's got it's almost got 178 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 3: nothing to do with the music. I'm thinking about who 179 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: this is, where they're from, what label they're on, how 180 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: this music got to me. There's so much going on 181 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: in my mind because I'm so embedded in the industry, 182 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: even though you know, obviously not at the major label level, 183 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: but it's just such a part of my life that 184 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: it gets in the way of my enjoyment of it. 185 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: So typically I have to put on genres far away 186 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: from what I do. 187 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: So you you just said you completed it. Now I'm 188 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: very curious, and I know you're very soon you go 189 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: overseas for a tour run. I'm always fascinated with this 190 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: with comedians of like putting new songs in their set. 191 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Will you perform songs that aren't out yet for your audience? 192 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm going to start that process this 193 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: time because I want to get used to playing them, 194 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: because I find a different relationship to songs when I 195 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: start playing them, So I don't want the first time 196 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: that I play these songs to be when it's the 197 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: release party, you know, So I want to get used 198 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: to seeing how some of them feel. 199 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: And will you how much does the crowd dictate what 200 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: you think of that song? Are you able to. 201 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: Just probably more than they should, Probably probably more than 202 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 3: they said. If they have a bad reaction to something, 203 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to think about that for a good long time, 204 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: even though. 205 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: Wait, how do you know they have a bad reaction 206 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: If they don't, if they're in different, if they're indifferent, 207 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: if they don't release energy at the time when I 208 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: feel like that should happened in the song, somebody say, oh, well, 209 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: I don't get I mean, you know my version of that, 210 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: which is probably saying something a little bit a little 211 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: less traditional. 212 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I feel like, okay, whenever I'm on a zoom. 213 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: Do you know about the Macbeth curse? 214 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: No? 215 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: Okay. 216 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: If you are in a theater, you are to never 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: ever say the word Macbeth. 218 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: It's a centuries long kind of owning. Yeah. 219 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, if you go to a Broadway play 220 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: in New York when the theater's empty, they purposely leave 221 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: a single lamp with no shade and a single light 222 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 4: in the middle of the theater to sort of throw 223 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 4: it off the spirits of the curse or whatever. 224 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Matter of fact. 225 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: The night of the Slap, the first thing that Chris 226 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: Rock says when he walks on stage is, Hey, Denzel Washington, 227 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 4: I just want to congratulate you on your Oscar nominating turn. 228 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: And Makebeth and we all laugh like and then you 229 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: saw it hap them five minutes later. 230 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: So what happens if you're doing a production of Macbeth 231 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: in the theater, Like what happens to question? 232 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: I think there is some sort of exemption there, but 233 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: you're to never ever say the words Macbeth inside of 234 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: the theater or else it'll be a curse. 235 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: And so okay, now I just did it. I fell 236 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole and forgot why I brought. 237 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: This up about a zoom call. You were saying, oh, okay. 238 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: So my version of that on a zoom call is 239 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: people will tend to say, and you know I do 240 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: a lot of pitches on zoom. They will say, well, 241 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: everybody's excited, so yeah, we'll reconvene next week, and everybody's excited. 242 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: A project will fall apart or never fall through. Literally 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 4: everybody's excited. Is the version of So how about those mets? 244 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 245 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: No, I feel like somebody say, ho, and whose side 246 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: is live? Or I still see older? 247 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to see it. 248 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm serious. 249 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 4: I've seen many of my nineties contemporaries still do the whole. 250 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: Yo say fuck, this side say fuck that's like. 251 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, all the side things people in the crowd like 252 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 3: why are we fighting? 253 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: Right? 254 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: So, like, what is your version of engagement where you 255 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: know they're rocking with you? Because even like the eight 256 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 4: mile thing, I think is kind of or you know, 257 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: like the whole. 258 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I mean, I have one song where 259 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: I do a hands up thing, but it comes at 260 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: the very end of my set and the song is 261 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: sort of built around it. In a way where it 262 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: makes a logical sense to do. It's not just like 263 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: a ram. 264 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: You're an asshole if you don't do it. 265 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 3: I mean, it's yeah, it's like I'm taking a survey, 266 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And by that point people 267 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: are either with it what I'm doing or they're not. 268 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: So typically you know it, get a good amount of hand. 269 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: It's at that point. But I don't want to be 270 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 3: asking for hands the whole time. I don't want to 271 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 3: be asking for noise. To me, the thing is to 272 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: like ask for those things without asking for because to me, 273 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: the death knell is to be looking like I'm seeking 274 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: their approval. That to me is like if I give 275 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 3: them this sense that I need them to do anything, 276 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: then I've already lost. 277 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: This is why to this day, The Roots have been 278 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: doing shows for thirty one years and we've never once 279 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: ended a song right right. Our show is like a say, 280 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: from beginning to end. I don't know why. 281 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: It's just the idea of like. 282 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: Uh, you the same way, you know what. I think. 283 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: Ideally there's a version of my show that's like that, 284 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: But I've never actually taken the time to put all 285 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 3: the interestitial pieces together. So I have like chunks of 286 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 3: show where like two or three songs kind of run 287 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 3: into each other and then I sort of stopped down. Dude, 288 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: maybe a little band and then start the. 289 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: Next is your set? You know, I know every every 290 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: leg is different, but does your set change much nights tonight? 291 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: Not a whole lot. I mean it changes a lot 292 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: toward to tour, but night to night it doesn't change 293 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: that much. 294 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: Interesting, and then what becomes of like Neighborhood Gods Unlimited 295 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: now that it's no longer the youngest born I mean 296 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 2: about it still is what what's your relationship? Because I 297 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: think you made this point when you were on you know, 298 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: this season earlier last year of like every album is 299 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: a different conversation piece for you, and it's a different 300 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: theme and you figure out what the theme is as 301 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: you work on the album. How does the relationship change 302 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: when the next album's out to the past? 303 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: I think, you know, what is an interesting question. I'm 304 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: not you know, able to say much about what this 305 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: next album is, but I'm. 306 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: Not asking that. 307 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 3: But it's okay. I think it's an interesting thing you 308 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: bring up because you completed it's over. Yeah, but it's 309 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not the only stakeholder in this situation. 310 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: So I like to coordinate with folks. So when we 311 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, when we when we make announcements to things. 312 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 3: But this album is like a it's basically like a 313 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: breakup album. So it's a conversation. 314 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Past the divorce album or past the divorce album. There's 315 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: a new one. 316 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: There's a new one, damn it. But that was five 317 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: years ago. And that was six years ago. Damn So 318 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: a whole other thing stopped and started in between. 319 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: Uh, some more Black Marry episodes. 320 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it's more life Ruin and that's not necessarily 321 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: Black Marry episodes. But but yeah, to. 322 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Here my DearS in in a cannon. There it is. 323 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: And and the thing about it, you do a third one, 324 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 4: You're the problem. 325 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the thesis of both of these projects. 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: Am I the problem? 327 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 4: Right? 328 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: There's no question. 329 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: But the thing about the Anime Truma Divorce album and 330 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: when I released in twenty twenty after my divorce, is 331 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: that because it was a pandemic, I didn't tour that album. 332 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: So I have worked those songs into live performances after 333 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 3: the world reopened. But this will be the first time 334 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: where I'm like Okay, this project centered around a very 335 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: specific thing. How do I strike the balance of having 336 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: this conversation and also working in my old stuff? 337 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: All right? So there's a question I'm donna know. All right. 338 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: So when Will Smith wrote his book, I asked him 339 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: the process of like, yo, you're really putting a lot 340 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: out there, and a lot of your stories have to 341 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 4: do with people in your life. 342 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: Did you have to go? He says, yes. 343 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: I had a whole weekend where he invited. 344 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: Everybody over. 345 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: And he read them the entire book over that three 346 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: day period, and if there was an objection or whatever, 347 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: people took a note, and then he did a one 348 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: on one to say, okay, like you know, chapter seven 349 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: you mentioned da da da da, and so he had 350 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: to get their blessings. 351 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Is that the same for you or no? 352 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: Because you know, in a book you kind of got 353 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: to say what happened, Right, I'm making songs. I'm not 354 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: saying what happened. I'm saying how I feel about what happened. 355 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: And I don't necessarily have to clear that with anybody. 356 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: Do you play it for them first? 357 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: Just hell no? 358 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: So do you know what your ex wife's reaction was 359 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: to the album? 360 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: I told her that I made a divorce album, and 361 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: I told her what it was titled. And I told 362 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: her that I didn't put any details of anything in it. 363 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: And she says she was okay with that, and that's 364 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 3: all the permission I needed. 365 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: Does she listen to your music? 366 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: She used to. I couldn't blame her for not paying 367 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 3: at couldn't blame her at all. Boy, couldn't blame her. 368 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: Man. 369 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 2: That's super exciting, you know, on the subject music I 370 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: always have. I mean, it's really cool to be sitting 371 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: here with you because over the years, in my previous lifetime, 372 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: I always just wanted to talk to you. I music. 373 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 5: But there's one song yeah no right, yeah, Croiz, one 374 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: of my favorite songs, the last I guess it's ten years. 375 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: I was just looking to check the date, but it 376 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: is admitting the endorphined addition that was that was my 377 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: jump off on open Mike Eagle, Like it's funny enough, 378 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 2: like I knew people that knew you and had worked 379 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: with you and always said amazing things about your humanity 380 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: and your artistry. But when I heard that song, that 381 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: was the one that like, oh and that whole album, 382 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: Just curious if you could just like unpack that because 383 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: I think for a lot of listeners of this platform, 384 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: that is a great entry point. 385 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: Huh okay, you know, like that was a song where 386 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm an album a moment in my life, but a 387 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 3: song in particular where I'm sort of realizing, as many 388 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: of us were, what role the phone was playing in 389 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 3: my life. So there's Check to Check, which is another 390 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 3: song on that album about how I'm checking my phone 391 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: all the time and like, and I sort of got 392 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: at this underlying thing of like, oh, I'm getting these 393 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: little endorphin packets from all of these apps, from waiting 394 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: on these emails that are supposed to do yeah, like that, 395 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: And it was sort of just wrestling with that, like 396 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 3: what hole am I trying to fill with these little 397 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: energy injections that come from these interactions with people in 398 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 3: the internet, you know, And and the whole song kind 399 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: of comes from that point. 400 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: Interesting. I got asked, like, what's your relationship with your phone? Now? 401 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 3: You know, I'm still psychologically part cyborg, like I am, 402 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: you know, a part of my mind is always thinking 403 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: about what's going on on the Internet and what is 404 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 3: being directed towards me at all times. What I'm noticing 405 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: more these days, and it's kind of getting at what 406 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 3: I was talking about with YouTube. How I'm like watching 407 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 3: the world sort of move to tiktokification in a short 408 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 3: video and I just like, I can't do it. I can't, 409 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 3: Like I can't do the video casino where you don't 410 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: know what's coming next, like and I see a lot 411 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: of people getting their dopamine hits that way, but that 412 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: don't work for me, Like I need to choose. I 413 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: need to be sitting in a conversation for eight, ten, 414 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: twenty minutes like that's that's my relationship to this content 415 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: that we're all consuming. And I'm watching the world go 416 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: this other way and I'm like, okay, this. 417 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: Is are you still a call me type versus a 418 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: text me? Now? 419 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 3: Never call me? Call never. I'm just making sure no 420 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 3: never call me? Are you camera? 421 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: Like when people cold call you my first, it's violence. 422 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: It's a violent act. I literally say, are you fifty 423 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: years old? Like why are you calling me? 424 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: But unfortunately their answer is amir, you know I'm fifty three. 425 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 4: And I'm like, dog like, stop calling me first? 426 00:20:59,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 427 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: Man, oh god yeah no. 428 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: Never. 429 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate it so much. 430 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 2: Well, I know, I'm so thrilled that your voice is 431 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 2: going to be joining us. I mean, I know we 432 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: spoke about it at the end of the episode that 433 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: ran last year, but are you in a position to 434 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: talk a little more about that you have brewing and 435 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: why this ecosystem really aligns itself. 436 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, so we're starting a podcast. 437 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: You don't need to whisper me and. 438 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: A producer, but it's important, you know, I'm just bringing it, 439 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: bringing it, making people lean into this part. You know 440 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Starting a podcast with you all's network? 441 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 3: Is there a name to this network? Is a question? 442 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: Whoever network? 443 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: Network? Is it a network? 444 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: We don't have a name. Yeah, we'll think of a name. 445 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: Okay, Questlove Umbrella that's a merchant, yeah, no more self emosily, 446 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: I'll think of something. Whatever this this unnamed enterprise that 447 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 3: y'all have heres. 448 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: Just think of it now. That's on you back me 449 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: we go. 450 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: But I'm starting a podcast. There's a working title for 451 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: which is the album that changed my life? That might 452 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: change But we're going to be talking to h luminaries 453 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 3: in the in the culture and all walks of life 454 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: about the album that did that for them and we're 455 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: going to be bringing in people who worked on those 456 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: projects to have a to have a real in depth conversation. 457 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 3: It's sort of a I think interest wise and unpacking music. 458 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 3: It aligns perfectly with this platform, and it's sort of 459 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: an extension of my podcast. What it happened was where 460 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: I talked to a person about their project. Now we're 461 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: getting to unpack other people's favorites and hopefully getting some 462 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: insight into how those projects were made. 463 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask you what, but while we've 464 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: been with a lot of people the last few days, 465 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 2: just coming in and out. While we've been recording here 466 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: in La, more than one person said they hope for 467 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: more of what had happened. Was will that can and continue? 468 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm taping the next season now. Wonderful your 469 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 3: phone by the way, you know, I'll tell you all off, Mike, 470 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 3: When does it come? That's I mean, I'm talking to 471 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: a very busy person. As I obviously am inclined to do, 472 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 3: was talk to very busy people. So it's it's taken 473 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: some time, so I can't necessarily project when it will happen. 474 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: When it'll be in the can hopefully this summer. Nice 475 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: hopefully the summer best. 476 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: News I've ever gotten. 477 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, because truly that was you always joke about 478 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: people making bread during the pandemic, learning how to That 479 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: was my favorite thing during the pand I know it 480 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: started right before, but like. 481 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: I think we taped it most of it the year before, 482 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: but it started airing right in the pandemic. 483 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: Okay, it was that. It was the Jordan Bulls thing. 484 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and last Dance Joe Exotic. You know, those 485 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 2: were my three entire and then lastly, I just wanted 486 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 2: to say to you too, and I encourage everyone that 487 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 2: loves our podcast since we're talking about watching things on 488 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: YouTube past due, that is what I listened to when 489 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: I prepared dinner. Awesome. 490 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's that's that could be rough dinner 491 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: making listening. I hope, I hope you're not crying and 492 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 3: you're post is just the last meal, you know, And 493 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: and you know that podcast is a is a laborer 494 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: love for sure, But for people who don't know, that's 495 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: a podcast where we talk to creatives about how they're 496 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 3: navigating this economy. And for most of us, it is 497 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: more difficult, you know, when you get into real conversations 498 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: with folks. They're having a lot harder time than they 499 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: put out there publicly, and we really get knee deep 500 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: into those conversations. 501 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: On past two, I really admired when you put it 502 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: on the camera on yourselves or put the mic on 503 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 2: yourselves and just like open the books of the show 504 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: and talked about things I like, you know, from being 505 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: somebody who's you know, four or five years in the 506 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: podcast space. That was a lot and it's so cool. 507 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: In your first question, I just encourage everyone, since the 508 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: first question is often what is your first musical memory? 509 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: On Questlove Supreme, and in the Quest of show, your 510 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: first question your guests is outstanding. I encourage people to listen. 511 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: Did you want me to tell them? 512 00:24:59,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: What? 513 00:24:59,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: The first p. 514 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 3: The first question And we're gonna ask you, Jake. 515 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to tomorrow. 516 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: But the first question is, and I'm not seriously asking 517 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 3: you to answer, is when's the last time you were 518 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 3: worried about covering your monthly expenses? And that opens up 519 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: every conversation we have on that show, damn, So I 520 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 3: won't be asking you anytime. So, dude, even. 521 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 4: Here's the thing, like I always felt, you know, once 522 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 4: you jump in the pool of a dream that becomes 523 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: like I'll put it this way, there's a well established 524 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 4: artist that we've all known and loved, and somehow I 525 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: feel I was privy to how the sausage is mean 526 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: as far as expenses and whatnot. And what I learned was, now, 527 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 4: this person, to me was like, you know, he's a 528 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: figure that we all know to be immersed of money. 529 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 4: But the whole andree three thousand check the check thing 530 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 4: comes up, and even for that person, someone told me 531 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: that the true sign of success, at least in that 532 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: sort of money grabbing way that hip hop has always been, 533 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 4: is if you stop what you're doing right now, how 534 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: long could you sustain your life? And for most people 535 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: that are in that place, like living the way they 536 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: live without adjusting, you know, five to ten years if 537 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 4: you're lucky. But for a lot of us, like you know, 538 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 4: I'm this is the reason why I work. 539 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: Someone is I'm. 540 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: Seven weeks Like, if everything we're to stop right now, 541 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 4: I could still live this way just for seven weeks 542 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: and then that's when the. 543 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 1: The knock starts. 544 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm not at a place where you know, 545 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 4: back in the day, it was Robin Peter Pain Paul, Hey, 546 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 4: I need more J gigs any more DJ gigs any more? 547 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 4: But no, it's it's still a monthly not nightmare, but 548 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 4: a monthly thought of you know what, can I still 549 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 4: keep this going? 550 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: That that you just expressed, that gets at the reason 551 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: why we do that show, because we've had all sorts 552 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: of people who are actors, comedians, musicians, writers, people that 553 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: people know, and we're often surprised how much economic insecurity 554 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 3: is at the top of people's minds. 555 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: You leave every episode, I feel like feeling a lot 556 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: closer in a different way than just like seeing an 557 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: interview show too. You get that person absolutely, So check 558 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: out that podcast. Please come back for this podcast, our 559 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: quest Love Show. Many episodes have just got a significant upgrade. 560 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled that Mike is here, so look out for 561 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: a lot more of this. 562 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: Happy to be here, Thank you. 563 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: Questlam Shows a production of iHeartRadio.