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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to the Hammer Territory podcast is

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Speaker 1: episode two three two. I'm your host, Brad Rowland, coming

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Speaker 1: to you on a Sunday. It's mid July, and I'm joined,

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Speaker 1: as I always am wisdoms often in these days, by

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Speaker 1: my friend Scott Coleman. Scott is July thirteenth. The first

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Speaker 1: quote unquote half of the season is finally over. I

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Speaker 1: will use that verbiage, how are you feeling.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Brad? I am doing okay. Of course this was

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Speaker 2: not the first half that anybody really had in mind

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Speaker 2: for the Braves, but there is a lot to get

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Speaker 2: to on the show tonight. Of course, the first round

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Speaker 2: of the MLB Draft is actually ongoing as we speak,

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Speaker 2: so we have that to talk about. It's also trade

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Speaker 2: deadline rumor season, and there's plenty of that with Braves,

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Speaker 2: and then of course three games against Saint Louis and

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Speaker 2: then some other news. So it'll be a jam.

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Speaker 1: Pack show tonight it will be, and mercifully for us,

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Speaker 1: it probably won't be and focused entirely on baseball games.

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Speaker 1: We'll have lots of things to talk about that are

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Speaker 1: not the actual games from this weekend. We should at

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Speaker 1: least note as a teaser for later on that the

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Speaker 1: Braves have now lost eight consecutive Sunday baseball games. You

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Speaker 1: and I have been doing this podcast for a long time.

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Speaker 1: We had our old friend carls Clausel on the show

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Speaker 1: last week. He and I have been Josy for even longer.

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Speaker 1: And it's always been not only but like somewhat a

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Speaker 1: way through what it used to be once a week,

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Speaker 1: even it was on Sundays and Scott that kitt went

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Speaker 2: It has been two months, and the last time the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves one on a Sunday was in Boston at

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Speaker 2: Fenaway Park. This was two days before Spencer Streider was

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Speaker 2: it was five days before Ronald Licunya Junior came up

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Speaker 2: were actually a game above five hundred. They were twenty

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Speaker 2: on a Sunday. It will be at least two months.

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Speaker 2: By the time the Braves play next Sunday, it will

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Speaker 2: would have it. Maybe it's time, maybe Stephen and Sean

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Speaker 2: start doing the Sunday shows you and I take like Tuesdays.

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Speaker 2: Then they would never win on Tuesdays and go un

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my personal record on days we have

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Speaker 1: I'll figure that out one time went on board. I

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Speaker 1: will calculate that, but not today on the podcast, Scott,

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I think we should probably

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Speaker 1: For the record, the Braves have two more picks tonight.

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Speaker 1: They will be made by the time you listen to

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Speaker 1: this podcast, but after we record it so they have

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Speaker 1: sixty to ninety six. We will cover that in detail

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Speaker 1: later on this week. I pledge to you that on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the four of us. With that said, the

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Speaker 1: Braves have the twenty second pick, and I previewed the

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Speaker 1: old pal Carlos, who does this professionally. But the Braids

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Speaker 1: made their first pick tonight, number twenty two. Overall, they

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Speaker 1: selected shortstop Tate Southhassen, a talented five to eleven middle

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Speaker 1: They're not always going to be short stops, but they

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Speaker 1: might be shortstops. It seems to be that this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we will defer to the experts, and there are

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Speaker 2: give him more, they could give him less, most people

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Speaker 2: So we'll see. Well, usually it's within a few weeks

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Speaker 2: we start to get figures on that. But Tate South

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Speaker 2: I believe Rony Shaw, the director of scouting for the Braves,

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Speaker 2: South the Scene, but hey, it's a shortstop. And for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was since twenty nineteen. I talked about a

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Speaker 1: and there's something inherently wrong with that. It's just been

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Speaker 1: I think Carlos wrote, I imagine he did. Shortstop is

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Speaker 2: And I know it's again, folks might really be locked

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Speaker 1: You said it right there. I won't go into my

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Speaker 2: You have my word, like subscribe, follow the podcast, and

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Speaker 2: do it, if Brad we haven't lost our minds by then,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's more thing about that, whether we'll still be

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Speaker 1: right about this pic. I like the pick, Scott, I'm

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Speaker 1: Right, Scott, let us get this out of the way.

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Speaker 1: It's not the greatest story in the world. Austin Riley

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Speaker 2: He does look better. Two homers, a double, hit the

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Speaker 2: ball hard. So maybe the Braves between a good week

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Speaker 2: on the field and then also sitting him Friday, sitting

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Speaker 2: him Sunday. He now gets four full days off with

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Speaker 2: the break, maybe they're hoping that this is going to

435
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Speaker 2: be able to kind of give him some juice these

436
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Speaker 2: next two weeks after the All Star Game, just to

437
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Speaker 2: be able to I mean, obviously you want to trade

438
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Speaker 2: Marcel short of going on a fifteen game winning streak

439
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Speaker 2: because you want some kind of prospect return and probably

440
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Speaker 2: some salary relief too. That doesn't hurt, but especially the

441
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Speaker 2: prospect thing, but it also is the whole Baldwin playing

442
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Speaker 2: every single day thing that we have talked about many

443
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Speaker 2: times on the pot at this point. So yeah, hopefully

444
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Speaker 2: Marcel good two weeks after the break, you can trade him,

445
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Speaker 2: maybe send him to a contender, a team so he

446
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Speaker 2: has a chance to go get another World Series. But yeah,

447
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Speaker 2: I mean it was Uh, let's give Sean Murphy his flowers.

448
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Speaker 2: This weekend was very much the Sean Murphy weekend. Fantastic game. Friday,

449
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Speaker 2: had the biggest swing of the game on Saturday. The

450
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Speaker 2: dude is good. That is a big win for Hammer territory.

451
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Speaker 2: We have been Sean Murphy defenders for years at this point,

452
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Speaker 2: and he had I mean, he's playing great baseball right now.

453
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Speaker 2: He had a terrific week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. At the end of Saturday, I looked up at

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Speaker 1: Fangrafts after the home run that he hit. I believe

456
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Speaker 1: he was fifth among catchers in all of Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball and Fangrafts four fifth while playing half the time.

458
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Speaker 1: While playing half the time, so basically, on a per

459
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Speaker 1: game basis, he's probably been third behind cal Raley and

460
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Speaker 1: Will Smith I catcher and all baseball this year, he's

461
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Speaker 1: been not good. Like I wonder if you whole brace

462
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Speaker 1: fans and said, who has who's been more valuable by

463
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Speaker 1: war ballwin or Murphy? If they would know the answer,

464
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Speaker 1: and it was Murphy as of today. So anyway, Murphy's

465
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Speaker 1: been good for a long time. He was never not

466
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Speaker 1: gonna be good. He got hurt last year. It is

467
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Speaker 1: what it is. But three hundred runs this weekend, we'll

468
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Speaker 1: stop victory knockbound map. But he's a good player. We

469
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Speaker 1: should note because we've been praising Grand Holmes up and

470
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Speaker 1: now and I will still do that. He finally had

471
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Speaker 1: a bad outing on Friday after eleven consecutive three runs

472
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Speaker 1: or less outings. That's a crazy long streak for a

473
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Speaker 1: supporting pitcher. He got rocked on Friday. They won, anyway,

474
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Speaker 1: but anything can started you about that performance. For me,

475
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Speaker 1: it's just like it's one. It's one for whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just one. The Cardinals have a

477
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Speaker 2: pretty good lineup. They have a balanced line up with

478
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Speaker 2: a lot of lefties. I mean, Holmes just didn't have

479
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Speaker 2: his best stuff, didn't have the slider, the fastball command

480
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Speaker 2: was a little iffy and getting hard. So hopefully just

481
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Speaker 2: a blip on the radar. Holmes has been so good,

482
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Speaker 2: and I mean sure, if he goes out there and

483
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Speaker 2: his next starting gets absolutely crushed, maybe we start to panic.

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Speaker 2: A bit, but no, I think it was just one

485
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Speaker 2: of those games and a guy who's been really really

486
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Speaker 2: good for about two months now he was due for one.

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Speaker 1: And hey, the bullpen through six scoreless settings on Friday

488
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Speaker 1: to make it to the point where that actually could

489
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Speaker 1: win the game anyway despite Holmes getting rocks. So that

490
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Speaker 1: was a fun team win a couple of guys.

491
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Speaker 2: So a big for all of the I think legitimate

492
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Speaker 2: concerns we had about the really the whole pitching staff,

493
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Speaker 2: but the bullpen, especially here. The bullpen's awesome. This is

494
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Speaker 2: a great bullpen.

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Speaker 1: It's been good all year. I mean earlier it was

496
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Speaker 1: kind of wavy. But even when it was not that good,

497
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Speaker 1: it was not as bad as people put as people

498
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Speaker 1: made it out to be. It just never it never

499
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Speaker 1: was by the numbers at any point.

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Speaker 2: And especially lately, like the last month or so. I

501
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Speaker 2: think Sean had the numbers a couple of days ago

502
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Speaker 2: on the show about this bullpen is like top five

503
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Speaker 2: and every stat that you want to look at dating

504
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Speaker 2: back to maybe June first and even in May, and

505
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Speaker 2: you're right, the first couple of weeks there were some

506
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Speaker 2: blow ups. They were also cycling guys like Hector Nearris

507
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Speaker 2: in that bullpen, which was just not gonna happen. But yeah,

508
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Speaker 2: credit to the bullpen quite honestly, whenever they have gone

509
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Speaker 2: into the game. I mean, I guess other than Jesse

510
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Speaker 2: Chavez on Sunday afternoon, and why is Jesse Chavez on

511
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Speaker 2: this team? Yeah, we'll never know. But regardless of whatever, yeah,

512
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Speaker 2: had tipped to the bullpen, they have done more than

513
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Speaker 2: their fair share of the bargain, especially lately.

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Speaker 1: So before Jesse Chavez came into the game on Sunday,

515
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Speaker 1: the Braves were sixth in all of baseball and reliever

516
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Speaker 1: era this year. Now there's seventh posted Jesse blow up,

517
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Speaker 1: but they were sixth, So that's really good. That's really

518
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Speaker 1: really good for a team that's had its closer blow

519
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Speaker 1: up for two months basically no Jimenez all year, like

520
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Speaker 1: they've been that they've done the job, man, that's not

521
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Speaker 1: but the problem it just hasn't been at all, even

522
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Speaker 1: though that was honestly on paper that was the weakest

523
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Speaker 1: point of the team coming into the season if you

524
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Speaker 1: factored in like no Jimenez all the other stuff.

525
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Speaker 2: And then as front off front office deserves some credit

526
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Speaker 2: for finding Rafael Montero off the scrap heap. I think,

527
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Speaker 2: what are they paying them all? Like three million dollars,

528
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Speaker 2: that's that's nothing.

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Speaker 1: And there was a moment where I mean, I'll raise

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Speaker 1: my hand. I thought he should have been dfaed at

531
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Speaker 1: one point because there was a while there where it

532
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Speaker 1: was not going well and they stuck with him over

533
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Speaker 1: other guys and that has proven to be the right move.

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Speaker 2: So anyell Delo Santos. Again, no one's saying that de

535
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Speaker 2: Loo Santos is prime Mariano Rivera, but totally fine season

536
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Speaker 2: in the middle innings. We'll see what they do with

537
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Speaker 2: guys like Pierce Johnson and Aaron Bummer and Iglesias at

538
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline in a few weeks. But yes, overall, bullpen,

539
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Speaker 2: great job. They're the maybe not the only positive on

540
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Speaker 2: the pitching stat on the pitching side this year, but

541
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Speaker 2: really just across the board, they've done a nice job.

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Speaker 1: They have. We mentioned Saturday the Murphy homer was the

543
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Speaker 1: big swing to win the game. Ronnie Hobart as well,

544
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Speaker 1: and a storyline that we have to bring up. Ronnie

545
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Speaker 1: hit third on Saturday and that was the first time

546
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Speaker 1: he has not been in the lead off spot in

547
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Speaker 1: a game he has started. Since twenty nineteen, he has

548
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Speaker 1: been the lead off hitter the entire time he has

549
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Speaker 1: played for six seasons. Obviously he missed one of those

550
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Speaker 1: seasons in full another one part of the season, but

551
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Speaker 1: still he's been the lead off guy, and when he's

552
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Speaker 1: coming to pitch hit, he's been in other spots. He

553
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Speaker 1: has quite literally never taken a swing at number three

554
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Speaker 1: in the lineup until Saturday. What'd you make of that?

555
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Speaker 2: I actually really liked it. This lineup with a Kunya third,

556
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Speaker 2: Olson second, Profar leading off was one that we kind

557
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Speaker 2: of talked about and teased a little bit on the

558
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Speaker 2: show a few weeks ago, not knowing exactly what Snit

559
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Speaker 2: had in mind for Profar, but I like it. I

560
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Speaker 2: know I love Ronald in the lead off spot just

561
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Speaker 2: like everybody else. But clearly, based on what are we

562
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Speaker 2: in ninety games in we have a ninety game sample

563
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Speaker 2: that this lineup is just not working on a nightly basis.

564
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Speaker 2: Change it up. Let Akunya bat third, get him behind

565
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Speaker 2: Olsen and Profar. Side note, jerks and Profar looks really good.

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Speaker 2: And that's not a small thing for a guy who

567
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Speaker 2: got popped thro p and had a lot of questions.

568
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm I'm fine with this lineup. I know

569
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Speaker 2: some people were excited about it, some people hated it,

570
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Speaker 2: but I like it. I mean, why not roll with

571
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Speaker 2: it for a little while. What do you have to lose?

572
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I there is some nerdy data that

573
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Speaker 1: will tell you that you don't want your best hitter

574
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Speaker 1: hitting third because there's it's the most likely chance to

575
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Speaker 1: have nobody on and two outs is when you're bat third.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's that big of a deal, and

577
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Speaker 1: not even be enthusiast would say it's a huge deal.

578
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Speaker 1: Like I think in a vacuum, I'd rather have Ronnie

579
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Speaker 1: hit second. But Matt Olson's really good too, so it's

580
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Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? It's fine and

581
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Speaker 1: uh no, I have no I have no problem with it.

582
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Speaker 1: And it just was different and I was surprised to

583
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Speaker 1: see it because just hasn't happened. I mean, any times

584
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Speaker 1: something happens has never happened, it's like, oh that's a

585
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Speaker 1: that's a notable change and batting order stuff. We do

586
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Speaker 1: a lot less of that than we used to. I

587
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Speaker 1: gotta say on the podcast is I don't think it

588
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Speaker 1: matters that much. I really don't. But it was interesting

589
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Speaker 1: enough where it was like, oh, this has to be

590
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Speaker 1: a topic because it was. Yeah, when running run, especially

591
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Speaker 1: running when like a top five player in the world

592
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Speaker 1: changes his life spot, it's okay, let's nop.

593
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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this Friday after the break.

594
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Speaker 2: Is it Cunya leading off or is it Cunya batting third?

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Speaker 1: I'll say third.

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Speaker 2: I kind of think so it worked enough.

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Speaker 1: Like they you know, they lost today. They did, they

598
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Speaker 1: scored runs today, Like I think, is a for better

599
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Speaker 1: or worse as a if it's working, ish let it

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Speaker 1: go kind of manager. He's that kind of guy. He

601
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to like make changes while they're winning or

602
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Speaker 1: while they're scoring. And today's offense was not really the problem.

603
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Speaker 1: It was just a Jovaz basically was the only problem today.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they probably will do it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't shot me if he's leading off either.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just you know, we'll see. But it

607
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Speaker 1: was more than a one day experiment.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It happened twice, and we'll see. I'm gonna go with third, though,

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Speaker 1: would you agree?

611
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. I would keep doing this for

612
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Speaker 2: at least a little while and see how it goes

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: More to come in a second on the rest of Sunday,

615
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Speaker 1: and then a segment actually on the trade deadline a

616
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Speaker 1: little bit earlier with some reporting over the weekend that

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Speaker 1: was notable. We'll get into all of that and more

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Speaker 1: Old friend Joey Wentz is back, former top forty pick

640
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Speaker 1: of the Braves. It's been actually it was nine and

641
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: nine plus years after they took him in the draft.

642
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Speaker 1: He'd never made it the majors. In Atlanta, he made

643
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Speaker 1: the majors. He was in Detroit other places, made the

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Speaker 1: majors and looked really good. Actually over the weekend. His

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Speaker 1: data before that more of a mixed bag, but obviously

646
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Speaker 1: was a live arm, always has been. He's still in

647
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Speaker 1: the league. It's been a long time. He's been around,

648
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Speaker 1: kicking around. But what did you make of that because

649
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Speaker 1: he's in the mix old friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, old friend Joey Wentz. I think he was in

651
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Speaker 2: the Shane Green deal many years, that is correct, I believe, yes, Yeah,

652
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Speaker 2: so Wentz once upon a time, big time prospect. Never

653
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Speaker 2: really worked out for him statistically, just not very good

654
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Speaker 2: at the majors. Kind of like a for a pitcher

655
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Speaker 2: that you see a lot of the baseball. But Wentz

656
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: looked really good, like legitimately good on Saturday. Had a

657
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Speaker 2: bunch of strikeouts, a lot of swing and miss, and

658
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Speaker 2: his pitch data from the performance over three innings was

659
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Speaker 2: encouraging across the board. His stuff graded out pretty well.

660
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Speaker 2: So the Braves might have found something. And right now

661
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: they're running two out of five bullpen games. I wouldn't

662
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Speaker 2: be surprised if they continue to roll Wentz out there.

663
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Speaker 2: And sure, maybe in a week or two the fairy

664
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Speaker 2: dust falls off and he gets clovered and they move on.

665
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Speaker 2: But it's pretty clear at this point with the record

666
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Speaker 2: and the bullpen and really the starting rotation being so injured,

667
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Speaker 2: it feels like they're just going to kind of cycle

668
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Speaker 2: guys in there for a couple of innings at a time,

669
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Speaker 2: and hey, if you pitch well, you keep your job,

670
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Speaker 2: and if you don't pitch well, you get DFAED.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I speaking of the cycle, David Daniel pitched

672
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Speaker 1: on Sunday, pitched pretty well, you know, four innings, one run,

673
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Speaker 1: did walk three to struck out five. He's it seems

674
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Speaker 1: like he's like the next guy out to actually be

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Speaker 1: a starter like they opened with Aaron Mumer. We all

676
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Speaker 1: know Bummers a reliever and only a reliever. But you

677
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Speaker 1: know Nathan Wiles came up. I can't went down once.

678
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Speaker 1: Like they have a bunch of guys. I mean, we

679
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Speaker 1: can name all that we won't. The only one that

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Speaker 1: anyone knows is Waldrop that they have not gone to

681
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Speaker 1: yet this season. But they're just and once they add somebody,

682
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Speaker 1: and I think we already know how you feel about

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Speaker 1: adding somebody. Scott in general, buying to use the word

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Speaker 1: by is like it's taboo with you right now. So

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Speaker 1: if they don't do that, it's gonna be a lot

686
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Speaker 1: of this. It's gonna be a lot of like the

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Speaker 1: cycle every every fourth day, every third day. It's gonna

688
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Speaker 1: be I would like it, honestly. Here's what they for

689
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Speaker 1: a post all start break. They got to change the

690
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Speaker 1: rotation because you can't do back to back bullpen days

691
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: like they gotta stagger. You got to separate these guys.

692
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Speaker 1: The three guys you do have, they can't be in

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Speaker 1: a row anymore with with this, with the waves is going.

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Speaker 1: That's a small thing, but it's like it matters to me.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that and I'm still a little surprised

696
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Speaker 2: they really have not added a veteran anything. Yeah, anything,

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Speaker 2: I mean when.

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Speaker 1: I mean Joey Wentz. Joey Went's the guy that added.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just someone to eat innings. Because honestly, I know

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Speaker 2: they've done bullpen games for about a week and a

701
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Speaker 2: half now, but I would be very surprised if they

702
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Speaker 2: spend the final two and a half months of this

703
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Speaker 2: season running forty percent bullpen games. I mean, those guys

704
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Speaker 2: are gonna be dead.

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Speaker 1: It won't happen. No bye in August.

706
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Speaker 2: And if you end up trading, and this is a

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Speaker 2: professional teas and a professional segue, if you end up

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Speaker 2: trading someone like Pierce Johnson, who's really good, or Aaron

709
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: Bummer who's versatile out there, then you're even I mean,

710
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Speaker 2: then you're even thinner than you are now trying to

711
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Speaker 2: do bullpen games like this.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to ruin your segue just for one more thing,

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Speaker 1: because I have to make sure I say this. I'm sorry,

714
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Speaker 1: it's that's terrible, terrible of me to do. But other

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Speaker 1: than Sunday's game being a seven hour marathon, and it

716
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: really was seven hour marathon, are we already apologize Justice? Chavez,

717
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: which was the reason they lost the game. Why was

718
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: he pitching? I get it, I get it. To the

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Speaker 1: what we just made. They don't really have a lot

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Speaker 1: of fresh arms right now with the way they had

721
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: to carry this by putting Chivas in a game where

722
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: you're up by two. I know this season doesn't matter anymore.

723
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Speaker 1: I get it. But it's three to one and your

724
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: worst pitchers pitching. I don't understand. But anyway, the real

725
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say, Michael Harris should have walked.

726
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: He hasn't walked in two months. He should have walked today.

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Speaker 1: He got screwed. That's all I want to say.

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Speaker 2: He got screwed. It was a big situation too for

729
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: Mike and he had a really good game today and

730
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: it should have been a walk. I had the tweet

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Speaker 2: queued up and everything ready to go. I was like,

732
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Speaker 2: I was about to look and see how many had

733
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Speaker 2: bats it'd have been since Michael Harris had last walked,

734
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Speaker 2: and it was low. It was at least somewhat close.

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Speaker 2: The homeplayed umpire today had a bit of an adventure,

736
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: but it was Ball four should have been bases loaded,

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Speaker 2: and who knows, maybe the game would have ended differently,

738
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Speaker 2: if the umpire doesn't blow the call.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in a different time when the game has mattered

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Speaker 1: more to us than they do right now, that would

741
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Speaker 1: have been higher in the show. Also, it was very funny,

742
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: is the right word? I think that In the next inning,

743
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: Ozuna walks to lead off the inning and the Cardinals

744
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: manager gets thrown out of the game with a lead,

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00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: arguing balls and strikes on a pitch that was like

746
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: he I was like all the pitches that was gonna

747
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: wear balls like it wasn't like he got reverse squeezed.

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00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: And then the Bravest, of course, in typical fashion, had

749
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: a chance to tie the game, and then they failed

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Speaker 1: to tie the game. Uh okay, Scott, let us transition

751
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: and do a new segment actually from our friends at Truest.

752
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: It's called Money Moves. Show me the money, all right, Scott,

753
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: it's our Money Moves segment, and it's going to focus

754
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: on some reporting around the trade deadline that happened in

755
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: the last few days and kind of just to kickoff.

756
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: We'll probably do it even a full maybe even a

757
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: full show on the deadline the next couple of weeks

758
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: because it's we're getting there. It's July thirteenth, the deadlines

759
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: eighteen days away as we're recording this. But Robert Murray,

760
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: who does a really good job, actually underrated insider breaks

761
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Speaker 1: news is good, reported I leave was on Thursday because

762
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Speaker 1: I touched on the briefly on the Carlos Show that

763
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Speaker 1: the Braves still about discussed Chris Sale at all in

764
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: trade talks and will not discuss him. And they also

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00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: and he also reported they will not consider moving quote

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Speaker 1: any other player under control beyond twenty twenty five end quote.

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00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: Now we've heard this before, that's been out there a

768
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: little bit before, but this is fresh reporting post losing skid,

769
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Speaker 1: not two months ago. Not what Alex said recent reporting

770
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: later on it's Bob nightingale so Asterisk supplies. But he

771
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: said the Braves are making Ozuna and Iglesias, who are

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00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: expiring contracts not under control quote, and a few others available.

773
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Speaker 1: We don't know who those guys are, but interesting stuff here.

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you this to get this started. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe there is no chance they trade anyone with team

776
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: control beyond the season.

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00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: I think they could. I think they actually will, but

778
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a reliever. I don't

779
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: think they're trading a position player that includes Sean Murphy

780
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: because it is exceptionally difficult to trade a catcher mid season.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think they're trading Cursale or Schwellenbach. I

782
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: know a couple people have mentioned Grant Holmes actually as

783
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: like an under the radar trade. If a team wanted

784
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: to like blow the Braves away, then I would probably

785
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: be interested. But short of just somebody wanting to overpay

786
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Speaker 2: for Holmes and not that Spencer Schrider, I don't think

787
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: he's getting moved. So yeah, I think the only players

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 2: who technically have multiple years of control are Bummer, who

789
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: has a guaranteed deal next season, and Pierce Johnson, who

790
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: has a seven million dollar player option, which, short of injury,

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Speaker 2: is a it's.

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Speaker 1: A club option. Club option too, club option.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me? Yeah sorry, club option ninety nine percent chance

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00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 2: to be picked up short of injury.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I'm with you, And I've even seen them

796
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: won't it doesn't matter. But I've seen some inaccuracies out

797
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: there about like who's under team control or not. Pretiant

798
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: is undeath control, Like if you have a Colloll option,

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Speaker 1: you are under team control. It's the team's choice what

800
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to do with you at that point, but you are

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00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: under team control. Bummer, as you said, has a guaranteed

802
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: contract that they're restructure, but it's guaranteed, it's locked in. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The way I put it on Thursday, when I was

804
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Speaker 1: talking to myself into a microphone was basically like, if

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Speaker 1: this is the way the Braves are thinking, I think

806
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: it's the wrong way to think. I generally think Alex

807
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: is good at his job. We've criticized Alex several times.

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Speaker 1: It's not like we're above criticizing Alex. I think they

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00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: like fire Alex. Brigade is kind of out of control

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: right now. I think it's kind of silly, But I

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00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: think that it would be kind of it would be

812
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: silly or miss misplaced, or how do you want to

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00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: put that? To draw really the red line and say

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Speaker 1: we are not trading anyone with control. That seems silly

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Speaker 1: to me, given where they are right now and given

816
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: where they even more last year. I mean, they were

817
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: a good team last year, but they were not a

818
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: great team last year. And then so all that said,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean they have to trade anybody. They don't have to,

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00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: But beyond that, we are in lockstep about the relievers.

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Speaker 1: We've defended Aaron Bummer a lot. I think Aaron Mummer's good.

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00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Bummer has value. If you can get

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00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: a real offer for Aaron Bummer, you should probably trade

824
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Speaker 1: Aaron Bummer because he's a reliever.

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00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 4: Pierre S.

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Speaker 1: Johnson's same thing, Like, if you've got a real prospect

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Speaker 1: return of any kind for a reliever when you are

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00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: going nowhere this season and yeah, next year matters, but

829
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Speaker 1: relievers are volatile. That's like, this is the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: Like you're trading for a reliever to win this If

831
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: you're the other team, yeah, it might help you that

832
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: you have to control beyond the seat, beyond this year

833
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: on Bummer or Johnson, but you're really doing it for

834
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: now if you're trying to trade for Baron Bummer. So

835
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Speaker 1: it should be the reverse if you're the team selling,

836
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: like you should be willing to sell relievers for sure. Yeah,

837
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: like Dylan Lee, Dylan Lee's super cheap. If you want

838
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: to keep dying. If you want to say Dylan is

839
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: in a different tier, I'm okay with that because Dylan

840
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: Lee like makes nothing and is really good. Fine, But

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Bummer have real money and they're good relievers,

842
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: but they should be traded if they have good offer.

843
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: And yes, absolutely I agree. The other player who we

844
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: mentioned a little earlier in the show that I think

845
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Speaker 2: is a legitimate trade candidate is Rafael Montero. Montrero's numbers

846
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: are really good about six weeks now, and I could

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Speaker 2: see the Braves trading him. I think Aaron Bummer. I

848
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: know he's a little bit of a love him or

849
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: hate him player with the fan base, but Bummer is

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Speaker 2: a weapon against left handed hitters. And you're telling me

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Speaker 2: a team like I don't know, the Dodgers, the Mets,

852
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: the Phillies, the Cubs, they don't look at some of

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Speaker 2: the left handed sluggers who are in playoff contention on

854
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Speaker 2: these really good teams and go man. It would be

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Speaker 2: good to be able to try to neutralize sho Hey

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Speaker 2: and Freddie in a best of five, or Harper and

857
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: Schwarber in a best of five. That's the thing. Pierce

858
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: Johnson Righty's don't hit Pierce at all. Iglesias has been

859
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: awesome since he was I guess technically demoted from his

860
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: closer role after that disastrous blow up against Arizona. So

861
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, brad rapid fire these questions,

862
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: and then I'll answer after you answer each one. Will

863
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: the following players be on the Atlanta Braves roster on

864
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: August first? U? Oh? Number one? Rice e Iglesias, Yes

865
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: or no? He will be on the Braves on August first?

866
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: No?

867
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: I agree. No. Marcelo Zuna? Is he on the Braves

868
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: on August first? With a reminder that one he may

869
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 2: not pass the physical and two Ozuna can veto any

870
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: trade because he has ten and five rights as a player.

871
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: I think he will be on the team for exactly

872
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: the reasons you just laid out. If he was if

873
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: he did not have ten to five, I think he

874
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: would be traded.

875
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you. I'm I know, we'll see.

876
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: We'll get to that later. Let me let's continue the exercise. Okay,

877
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Aaron Bummer? Is he on the Braves on August first?

878
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Now you get to a territory where it's like, do

879
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: we believe the reporting? Do we believe what Alex has said?

880
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Bummer will be on the team.

881
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: We disagree there. I think Bummer is getting traded.

882
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: It's close for me.

883
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I think the Braves can sell Bummer as a shutdown

884
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: lefty and.

885
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: Look, I'm not looking again they should trade him, and

886
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: I think he's really good and they's just still trade him.

887
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: So that that's such why I.

888
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: Think in one more note on some of these players,

889
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: So Bummer signed for nine and a half million dollars

890
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: next year, that is not an insignificant amount of money.

891
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: And we have talked about this offseason. It feels like

892
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: the Braves need to have a come to Jesus moment

893
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: this offseason to really evaluate and basically take maybe five

894
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: players and say, Okay, these players are locked in and

895
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: everybody else is on the table. And if you can

896
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: take nine and a half million dollars in savings from

897
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: a lefty reliever who is good but not a Aaron Bummer,

898
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: is not the difference between a playoffs or a World

899
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: Series next year. But then use that nine and a

900
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: half million dollars to go sign Kyle Schwarber, who's like

901
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: a top ten hitter in the game. Right now, That's

902
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: something I would be in favor of. So I'm going

903
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: to disagree to continue the exercise. I will say that

904
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: Bummer does get traded. Okay, Pierce Johnson, is he a

905
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: member of the Braves on August first. No, he is traded, Okay,

906
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: and I'm going to say that, yes he is. He's

907
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: still on the tap.

908
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: That's fine. No, I think we could both be right.

909
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: We're wrong.

910
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I think that's very much the case. One reason this

911
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: is going to sound so stupid, and as I say

912
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: it out of my mouth, it sounds really dumb. I

913
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: think that they could act like he's not under teath

914
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: control when they trade him, even though he is. You

915
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I can I can already see

916
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: the dance that Alex tries to do when they trade

917
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Piers Johnson and say, well, you know, wasn't locked up

918
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: for next year, didn't didn't have the same guarantee that

919
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: Aaron Bummer did. I'm kidding, but I'm also not. But no,

920
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: either one both. I would make calls and listen to

921
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: calls on both relievers. I just pulled the stat By

922
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,399
Speaker 1: the way, I forgot to say it earlier on Aglesiast,

923
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: he has not allowed an earn run. This is Graysla Glaciers.

924
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: It's not allowed an Earth run since June fifth. He's

925
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna get traded, I mean, by the way, if they

926
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: don't trade Glaciers. I'm gonna be That's the one guy

927
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: where I will be losing my mind if he saw

928
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: the team and again I think he's good. I think

929
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: he's good again. I was.

930
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: I thought he was good the whole time. He blew up.

931
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: That did happen. He was really bad for two months,

932
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: But like I was, never like how he's broken forever.

933
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: He's really good again. They have to trade him. They

934
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: have to he's expiring. You have to trade him. At

935
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: looks Alazuna. There's a realistic scenario where he's just like, nah,

936
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: man decline, you know what I mean. He has the

937
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: ability to say no. Aglecius does not have that ability.

938
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And we'll see and then we'll wrap up

939
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: this kind of trade segment here. But it's also one

940
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: other interesting piece of all this is financially, how much

941
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: are the Braves willing to eat of these contracts. So,

942
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: for example, r Ice sell Iglacias by trade deadline time.

943
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 2: I believe he's owed six million dollars for the rest

944
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: of the year. Do they eat some of that money

945
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: to get a better prospect return they should. One one

946
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: legitimate question I have is say the Braves trade to

947
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 2: Glacias and Bummer. Okay, so that's a legitimate financial savings.

948
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: It's gonna be well, Bummer's only making three and a

949
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: half million, but let's say all in that saves them

950
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 2: seven million bucks in addition to the nine and a

951
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: half that Bummer is on the books for next year.

952
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: Can they take that seven million dollars in savings this

953
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: year and roll it to the twenty six budget. Well,

954
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: if they were not a publicly traded company, maybe they'd

955
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: be able to do that easier. No, I have the

956
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: same question you do. And I will also make one

957
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: more point on the financial front, and we'll get into

958
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: this more later on.

959
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: I promise we all know. And Alex has said this,

960
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: he had he always keeps money, a little bit of

961
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: money to spend at the deadline, which they're not going

962
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: to spend, it seems like. So you would think between

963
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: that and whatever you trade, like you should be willing

964
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: to take keep all the money you should be you

965
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: should be willing to take if you can trade Marcel

966
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: Zuna and pay him all the money and get real

967
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: hosp capital back, you should be willing to do that

968
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: because you don't you want to have spent more. You

969
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: obviously as we've covered at nauseum cut salary from last

970
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: year to this year. You're already cheaper. You're not spending

971
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: any more money, you're not buying anymore. Like, Yeah, they're

972
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: gonna lose some money at the box office, so to speak,

973
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: because the attendants will be down the rest of the season.

974
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident post All Star break Schools back in August,

975
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: people are not gonna going to the games anymore. It

976
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: won't be empty, it won't be like Pirates empty, Like

977
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fine, but they're not gonna be sold

978
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: out every night. So there's that trade off too. But

979
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: there's always the weirdest what it's a team that's publicly traded.

980
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: How much does that matter? How much does the payroll

981
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: go on that? But you're right in theory, you should

982
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: be able to at least file a few million away

983
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: for next year if you're Alex and say, hey, Terry,

984
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: like I say you this now, can I please have

985
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: this next year to spend?

986
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? In theory, yeah, we'll see, I mean the next

987
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: few weeks. I mean, it's a weird situation for the

988
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: Brakes because for seven years now it's been yes, they're

989
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: buying what are they buying and this year? I think

990
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: pretty clearly it would not be a shock if they

991
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: It would not be a total shock if they went

992
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: out and traded for a player with multiple years of control.

993
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: Is that because this team is too good to not

994
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: be competitive in twenty six or at least try to

995
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: be competitive in twenty six? Yeah, but then you're also

996
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: paying a premium, and you're paying for a half a

997
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: season where you're basically dead. I would guess that Alex

998
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: would prefer to just do that deal on November fifteenth,

999
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: then July thirtieth, and have to pay a premium on

1000
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: top of all the craziness that the deadline brings.

1001
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: We agree, I think he certainly would be open to

1002
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: adding a player like that. If they trade anything of

1003
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: value for a rental, we're gonna go nuts on the show.

1004
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you, even more than me, will go

1005
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: nuts if they Yeah, they're trading for a rental. They

1006
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: won't do that, I don't think. But you're right if

1007
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: they trade for someone with control, totally get that pending

1008
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: price and we'll have to see there's the whole shoan,

1009
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: or if you discussion will have at a later date,

1010
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: where like he could be available, but your point's perfect,

1011
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 1: and that he catchers in season tough, he's really good.

1012
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: At the same time, there's the whole Michael Harris discussion,

1013
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: like would a team buy on him at his like

1014
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: previous form if you if if you think he would,

1015
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: maybe you would think about it. But I don't think

1016
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: Alex is willing to get there yet. We'll see, but anyway,

1017
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: there's topas galore. We'll probably do a whole trade show

1018
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: at some point in the next few weeks, but we will.

1019
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: And just to say it out loud, there was a

1020
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: report that the Tampa Bay Rays and the San Diego

1021
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 2: Padres are two teams that are interested in Sean Murphy.

1022
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: It was Jim Bowden, just for the It was not

1023
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: a it was not Ken Rosenthal. It was not our guy,

1024
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: Ken rosen Thal that reported this.

1025
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: So but it would make sense because as we have

1026
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 2: said for years, Catcher is a wasteland. The the Padres

1027
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: Catcher situation is impossibly bad and has been for a

1028
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: few years now. So those are interesting because those teams

1029
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: have high level shortstop prospects who would be of interest

1030
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: to the Braves. We'll see again. I think the Murphy

1031
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: discussion is a very real one to have this off season.

1032
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: But I would be very surprised if they moved Murphy

1033
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: in the next three weeks, not because it isn't necessarily

1034
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: what's best for the team long term, but because catchers

1035
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: and learning an entirely new pitching staff in the middle

1036
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: of a pennant chase is really hard to do.

1037
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that feels like an off season thing and what

1038
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: we'll have to see, but I we agree on that,

1039
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be It'll be interesting in the

1040
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: next eighteen days, will be really interesting for different reasons

1041
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: than usual. But there are they still have stuff to

1042
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: talk about. I did a segment with the Foul Territory

1043
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: guys about this too, Like there's lots of instability, and

1044
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: we wish it was better instability. Wish they were buying

1045
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: instead of selling, but that is not where the cards

1046
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: have brought us at this point in time. With the

1047
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: All Star festivities starting in Atlanta this week, we're going

1048
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: to let you know right now that our friends from

1049
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Foul Territory will be doing the show live Monday and

1050
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: Tuesday from the Truest Community Center right next to the ballpark,

1051
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: and starting this weekend, the truest community Corner is kicking

1052
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1053
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Speaker 1: youer giveaways and jam to your favorite throwback hits as well.

1054
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1055
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1056
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1057
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Speaker 1: Saturday through Tuesday. Come watch the show and say hi

1058
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Speaker 1: to the ft guys. All right, Scott, before we get

1059
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: out of here, a brief look ahead of the week

1060
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: to come. No games, it's till Friday. Weird. There is

1061
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: all star stuff in Atlanta. I'm not in Atlanta, despite

1062
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: the fact that I live there. I'm recording this from

1063
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: a hotel in Las Vegas covering NBA Summer League. You

1064
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: don't live in Atlanta anyway, but there is stuff happening.

1065
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 1: The drafts happening in Atlanta. There was all kinds of

1066
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: crowd shots at the battery that I was seeing on

1067
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Speaker 1: TV tonight. Gore was there, guest of the podcast. Carlos

1068
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Speaker 1: has been on TV all night tonight. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: going on the Derby's Monday. There was one bit of

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Speaker 1: derby news Ronald pulled out and met All and replaced him.

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Speaker 1: So they're still a brave as rooting interest. I'm assuming

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Speaker 1: Ronnie is just like, Hey, I was hurt the other day,

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Speaker 1: can I be careful? That's my guest. No one said

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Speaker 1: that to all knowledge. But was that the assumption you're

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Speaker 1: making as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like they're just being smart with Ronald.

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Speaker 2: And the fact, by the way, God bless when the Acunion,

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00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: when the Acunyan news came out that he was doing

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Speaker 2: the derby, my first reaction was legitimate excitement and happiness

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Speaker 2: that he felt good enough to be able to do it,

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Speaker 2: and then about five seconds later like honest fear of like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, what if he hurts that knee swinging

1083
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: very hard like sixty times in a for fun competition.

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Speaker 2: It's for the best. Let Ronald relax and joy he'll

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Speaker 2: be going crazy on the sidelines. And the fact that

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Speaker 2: Braves have a very legitimate contender to win the derby

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00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: in Matt Olsen also kind of alleviated it a little bit.

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Speaker 2: They weren't like, hey, Michael Harris wanted to do the

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Speaker 2: home run derby, like that would have been that would

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Speaker 2: have been maybe.

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Speaker 1: Maybe more of a shame. So can you imagine if

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Speaker 1: they if they announced the Michael Harrison of the Derby,

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Speaker 1: that would have been the funniest Twitter reaction you've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I think Matt Olson at DraftKings is

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Speaker 1: like the fifth favorite or something like that. I kind

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Speaker 1: of like Matt Olson and his chances. Matt's got real, real,

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Speaker 1: real power, and he's playing at home chop house. I

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Speaker 1: can see Matt winning it for sure. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if i'd pick him, but he's he's got a chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and left you want to be a lefty hitter

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00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: at Truest Park if you're going to win a home

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Speaker 2: run competition. I know cal Rally has crazy power, like

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00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: he's I think he's the odds on favorite, but you

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00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: know it's it is much easier to hit a home

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00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: run to the chop house than it is hitting one

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00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: to left field or left center field is really big,

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00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Matt has a legit chance. And

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00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: you know he's a big guy. Was he like six

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00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: four two forty. It's not only a power contest, but

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00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: an endurance contest. You have to know, I mean you

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00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: have to you're swinging a bat really hard, really consecutively

1112
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: and trying to hit the ball four hundred feet every time.

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00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you got to be able to withstand that.

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00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: And we'll see. We'll be rooting for Matt hopefully he

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00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: can get to win on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a hotel guy in the derby is gonna be

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00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: fun and he will have the crowd behind him. We

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Speaker 1: can assume that anyway. Then Tuesday is the game itself.

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00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Ronald and Matt Olsen are the only two guys playing.

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale didn't make it as a refresher, but he

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Speaker 1: is unavailable of course, but Run is starting. That'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing else to add. I'll watch, but I

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Speaker 1: mean analysis from the All Star Game is just like

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Speaker 1: it's baseball. Let's watch it together and have fun. That's

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Speaker 1: all I got for you.

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Speaker 2: I hope everybody has fun. I hope the braves, but

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00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: the one you two braves who are in it, I

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00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 2: hope they do well. And I hope everybody stays healthy.

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Speaker 2: It is And if you're local or even not local,

1130
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 2: and have a ticket to the festivities and you get

1131
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: Paul Skeins against Trek Scooble as the starting pitchers, I mean,

1132
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 2: those dudes are ridiculous, probably the two pitchers in the

1133
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 2: game right now, and it should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: We like baseball and baseball what we played, and you

1135
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: know it's it's an exhibition, but it's still cool. H oh. Briefly,

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00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: the Futures you have already happened. It happened Saturday. The

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00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 1: Brace had two guys in it. Jo Ritchie hitting, Harris

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00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: took part. I always hate how they don't will they

1139
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: market the Futures game. It's kind of buried there's real

1140
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: games happening at the same time. It's just like, why

1141
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: is this not a standalone event? I'll never understand it.

1142
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: But that happened already, so why not?

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00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: Why not put the Futures Game on Wednesday? There's like

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00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: nothing that goes on after the Y All Star Game itself.

1145
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: It'd be a cool moment. But yeah, playing it on

1146
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 2: a Saturday in the midst of all the other fifteen

1147
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 2: baseball games that are going on kind of silly, just

1148
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: kind of on brand for baseball, I guess. But but yet,

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: j R. Ritchie looked really good. I think there's maybe

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00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 2: a small chance that Richie gets a call up in

1151
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: September to see if he can do anything.

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00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 1: I would say there's a chance of that for sure.

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00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I mean anybody that's double A or higher right now,

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00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: anybody on any and they're gonna say, you could be

1155
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: pssioning it the timber. I mean literally anybody.

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: And then quite frankly, like someone like Hayden Harris, who

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00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: is a great story, is probably somebody who should be

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00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: up in the major leagues anyway right now, Like, bring

1159
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 2: Hayden Harris up, give Jesse Chaves a big old hug

1160
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 2: and say, Jesse, thank you for everything. It's time to retire,

1161
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 2: and let Hayden Harris throw out of the bullpen for

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Speaker 2: two and a half months.

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Speaker 1: I think he'll I think as soon as the deadline

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Speaker 1: is passed, he might be there the rest of the season,

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Speaker 1: maybe even before that. But like I feel like, maybe

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Speaker 1: you give him the break he did the futures game.

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00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it's like, Hey, we're gonna start you off.

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Speaker 1: He might be in the bullpen on Friday. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: stun me at all. Yeah, maybe they wait two more

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00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: weeks and say, you know, maybe they trade, for instance,

1171
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: to recycle what we just talked about. Bummer or Johnson

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Speaker 1: gets traded Rysell gets traded whatever, and they turn and say, hey,

1173
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: young fella, you're replacing one of these established guys and

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00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: go get them. So we'll see and we'll talk play

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Speaker 1: between now and then. But the Braves do open the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season, the second half of quotes

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Speaker 1: by hosting the Yankees starting Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I will say the only note I

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00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: have on that, which is a little bit of a bummer.

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00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: So Max Freed was maybe gonna start for the American

1181
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: League in the All Star Game, of course at Truist Park,

1182
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 2: a place he has so many memories. Max has another

1183
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: bad blister. What on earth is wrong with Max Fried's finger?

1184
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: That thing has been It's been a problem for nine

1185
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: years now. It's crazy. But Max Freed, I would be

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 2: I think he went on the injured lister. Is going

1187
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: to go on the injured list with a bad blister.

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00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: Freed will not pitch, I don't think in that series

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00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: in Atlanta, which is a bit of a bummer. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he would have gotten a rousing ovation, either at

1191
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: the All Star Game or in the series itself. But yeah,

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, if you can keep Aaron Judge quiet, you

1193
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 2: have a pretty good chance against New York I'm sure. Unfortunately,

1194
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of Yankees fans at Truest Park.

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00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: So one encouraged them to spend all their money and two,

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 2: let's get a couple wins and send the yank He's

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00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: home sad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron Judge might just be in Atlanta for a week.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll go on vacation in between. But he might

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Speaker 1: just be in Buckhead from Wednesday to Friday, So we'll

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Speaker 1: see how that goes. All right, Scott, We've covered enough

1202
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: ground on this Sunday Evening episode. We will have shows

1203
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: this week, even though there are no games. We will

1204
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: have multiple podcasts on multiple things. Will be a draft

1205
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: focused at some point, trade focus at some point, talking

1206
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: about the storylines. We'll get it. We'll get into all

1207
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: that stuff, I promise you between now and the games

1208
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: rezuoming on Friday. So please subscribe to Hammer Territory anywhere

1209
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: you find your podcasts. If he made it this far,

1210
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: we appreciate it in the first place, but just check

1211
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: us out all the time. Tell your friends as well, Scott.

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Folks can follow you on social media at Scott Cold

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00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: fifty five. Is that correct?

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Speaker 2: That is the one brad Go Colts. Oh, I wish

1215
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 2: I had happy football things to think about, but I

1216
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: don't you know, maybe maybe Daniel Jones will shock the world.

1217
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: Now I'm not. I am not that delusion.

1218
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: Hey, takes car and Carter Bryant in summer League. You're

1219
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: you're there, a basketball guy.

1220
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: There we go. Yes, college basketball not far away. That's

1221
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: probably gonna be a little better.

1222
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: But yes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody for checking out the show we

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00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 2: are gonna have. I mean, I think some we were

1225
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 2: talking today behind the scenes about some ideas for shows

1226
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: between now, All Star week, trade deadline coming up, so

1227
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna have some fun stuff on the horizon. And

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00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: as always, a big thank you to both our longtime

1229
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: listeners as well as new folks who have found the channel.

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Speaker 2: Welcome aboard. We do a lot of shows and Winter Lose.

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00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: We always do a podcast.

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Speaker 1: We will always be here. Thank you for being here

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: Scott on this Sunday, being patient with me as I

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00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: travel through the desert, not far from where you actually

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00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: are right now. But stay tune everybody. We appreciate you listening.

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Speaker 1: As always, we'll see you at some point during the

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00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: All Star break, and we'll sign off now so thanks

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00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: for listening. As always,