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Speaker 2: Good morning, Swimmer, and welcome to the Low Dunk's podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, July twenty seventh.

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Speaker 5: You way more than we do.

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Speaker 5: Draft week, so that's good for us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is my favorite week of the year. So

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Speaker 5: Up and smoked you so bad. You go to a

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Speaker 5: cloudy Amsterdam. You're living the life right now. But keep

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, well we got a lot to get to

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Speaker 2: here today, guys, because we've been off for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Olympics. We're going to

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Speaker 5: We got tweeted the night.

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Speaker 5: We got all seals and trade, then we do.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, the Grizzlies and Pelicans agreed to a three player

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Speaker 2: the first round of the twenty twenty one NBA Draft.

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Speaker 2: Grizzly sending Yonas Valancunas, the seventeenth pick and the fifty

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Speaker 2: But TK, what was your you know, initial reaction to this,

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Speaker 5: Well, my initial reaction is that this is a beefy,

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Speaker 5: letting me know two beefers exchanged for each other. People

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Speaker 5: and as we've seen now, they traded him so clearly

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Speaker 5: that's not the case. But he was instrumental to their

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Speaker 5: intentionally take a step back so that they can build

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Speaker 5: a better long term team. You don't see that very often,

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Speaker 5: you know, from a team that has had success early

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Speaker 5: was pretty surprising, But I guess this is actually the

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Speaker 5: smart way to do things. They're adding a lottery pick

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Speaker 5: to a playoff team. That sounds great. I think they

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Speaker 5: will probably be more like a play in team next year,

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Speaker 5: downgrading from Valentiunis to Adams. But I don't know. They're

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Speaker 5: building a little bit slow here. They're building the stability

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Speaker 5: John Morant as the number one. They're hoping Jaron Jackson

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Speaker 5: The problem is the guy files all the time. I

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Speaker 5: think he's a great player and a great defender, but

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Speaker 5: he got stop hacking people. You can trast this with

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Speaker 5: the Pelicans. They wish they were the Grizzlies right now.

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Speaker 5: The Grizzlies overachieving, they've gotten identity. But the Pelicans, it

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Speaker 5: You know, the Pelicans, since Zion has arrived in New Orleans,

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Speaker 5: tried veterans in Eric Bledsoe, Steven Adams, JJ Reddick trying

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Speaker 5: new vets this year. You can tell that David Griffin

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Speaker 5: feels a little bit of pressure to build faster around Zion,

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Speaker 5: especially considering they haven't had the minor playoff play in

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Speaker 5: feels to me like New Orleans is chasing that eighth seed.

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Speaker 5: And chasing the eighth seed is exactly why Anthony Davis

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Speaker 5: is an upgrade. Gives you a tiny bit more shooting

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Speaker 5: than Steven Adams does. I like the idea of clearing

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Speaker 5: the way for Kyra Lewis and Nikiel Alexander Walker, But

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Speaker 5: apparently the Pelicans want to go after Kyle Lawry. I

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Speaker 5: don't know why he would choose the Pelicans. To me,

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Speaker 5: the Grizzlies win this thing. They're taking the long view.

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Speaker 5: They're trying to build the next GrITT and Grind there

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Speaker 5: And yeah, you want to see some success of your Zion,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure, And you know that gotta feel a little

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Speaker 5: bit nervous. Him smiling talking about how much he loves

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Speaker 5: playing in Madison Square Garden. I'm sure that that's playing

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Speaker 5: a factor in all these kind of moves that the

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Speaker 5: running around trying to paper over holes everywhere. And I

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Speaker 5: don't know that's that quick fixed kind of style of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's gonna be tough, maybe to grade ly

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Speaker 2: until we see who the Pelicans sign, because of the

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Speaker 2: getting off of atoms and bloodsoe and opening up a

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Speaker 2: lot more room. And maybe it is a lowry you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe it's it's keeping a Lonzo or a Josh Hart.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's someone else, like a Dinwitty or something like that.

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Speaker 2: So that's gonna be tough. We sort of have to

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Speaker 2: wait on that, and then we also maybe have to

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Speaker 2: wait to see what the Grizzlies do with that number

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Speaker 2: ten pick. And we'll bring Andrew in a second. I'd

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Speaker 2: love to get his like ex expertise on that. But

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Speaker 2: what do you think of this beard for beard trade?

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Speaker 2: There two giant beard's gone back in this in this deal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'll just take the two players that are

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Speaker 6: really the deal is about here. It's Valentinernis for Adams

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Again, I think we just have to almost wait

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Speaker 5: Do we have to wait? What do you think?

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Speaker 2: on the fence about whether or not he wants to

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00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,040
Speaker 2: remain with the Wizards. So Bial, you know, has not

432
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,280
Speaker 2: said trade me. You know, Fred Katz with the Athletic

433
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,200
Speaker 2: reporting as such like, he has not said that yet.

434
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,200
Speaker 2: But we're getting a lot of smoke here with Beal

435
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,600
Speaker 2: and he's trying to figure it all out.

436
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 5: TK.

437
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 2: What do you make of this? What's going on here?

438
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 5: Do you think Bradley Beal and Damian Lillard just sit

439
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 5: around the Team USA locker room talking about whether or

440
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 5: not they're going to request trades. It's time. It's time

441
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 5: for Bradley Beal to say, get me out of here.

442
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 5: Wizards fans will understand if he asks out. Heading into

443
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 5: his tenth season now, Bradley Beal has three playoff series

444
00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 5: wins in Washington, none since the twenty seventeen season. As

445
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 5: Sham's mentions in that article, the process of mowing Bradley

446
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 5: Beal's future has taken place over each of the past

447
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 5: few summers, reading that I couldn't stop thinking about. November

448
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, a dramatic Wizard's practice during the John Wall era,

449
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal ends up beefing with Austin Rivers, screaming at

450
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 5: Ernie Grunfeld. I'm sick of this shit. It's been seven years,

451
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 5: those three years ago. They haven't had a five hundred

452
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,120
Speaker 5: season since they just brought in a first time head coach,

453
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 5: which is often the first sign of a complete rebuild.

454
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 5: It's time to go, Bud, It's time to go try

455
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 5: and actually win something in the NBA.

456
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: Lee, this is your dream possibly coming true here. You've

457
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: been wanting Beal sort of freed, if you want to

458
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: call it that, for a while. Do these reports again

459
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,680
Speaker 2: coming out over the last couple of days lead you

460
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 2: to believe what TK saying that the Wizards might and

461
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 2: should actively look to move him and get a big

462
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 2: hole back.

463
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 5: And now is the time.

464
00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 6: Well, Bradley Beal mulling his future, he's really mulling up.

465
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 6: How can he request a trade without pissing off his

466
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 6: fan base, That's what it comes down to. But honestly,

467
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,680
Speaker 6: they really the fan bay shouldn't be upset with Bale.

468
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 6: He's been there nine seasons and they've done an awful

469
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 6: job putting a supporting cast around him. I mean, obviously

470
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 6: John Wall was injured and they had some minor success there,

471
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 6: but they've never really been a contender at all. Even

472
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 6: in those prime days where they did beat the Raptors,

473
00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 6: they swept the Raptors in the playoffs, you thought maybe

474
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 6: there's something there, but there wasn't really, and they've done

475
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 6: a bad job in recent years, you know, again signing

476
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 6: guys like Darvis Bertans, who you know, he's a shooter.

477
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 6: He earned that contract, but he doesn't do enough on

478
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 6: his team. He doesn't bring enough to the table to

479
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 6: make Bradley Beal feel that he's being supported by, you know,

480
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 6: legit players who can take the team further. Now, last

481
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 6: year I remember Scott Brooks who said, you know, I

482
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 6: think I believe he said, I don't have the quote

483
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,399
Speaker 6: here in front of me, but he said, you know,

484
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 6: if they trade bal then I'm gone too. Well now,

485
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 6: Scott Brooks is an assistant coach in Portland and Damian

486
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 6: Damian Little is a little unsettled. There's a cjb Je

487
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 6: Bradley Beal swap. Maybe right there, maybe they can shake

488
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 6: things up and send McCollum to Washington, but then he

489
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 6: wouldn't be very happy there anyway. So you know, look,

490
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 6: the Wizards have to hit the reset button. They have

491
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 6: to because it's not working. They just did the trade

492
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 6: last season with Wall for Russell Westbrook, which was just like, sure,

493
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 6: what the hell, why not, let's give it a shot.

494
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 6: Now is the time if you are going to cash

495
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 6: in on Beal, you can get a lot in return,

496
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 6: I think, And if you can move off that Westbrook

497
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 6: contract as well, then you are starting in. You've got

498
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 6: a brand new coach, so you may as well move

499
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 6: on from this era. It's been bad. They've done a

500
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 6: bad job, and I would love to see Bradley Beal

501
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 6: in a situation on a team where he can actually

502
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 6: have legit success. I think he's lived up to his

503
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 6: part of the bargain becoming a three time All Star.

504
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 6: You know, made the All NBA team this year, I believe.

505
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 6: Is that right? Did he make it in the end?

506
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 6: I can't quite remember. But the point is Beal has

507
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 6: proven to be a star and they just haven't been

508
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 6: able to put a good enough team around him to

509
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 6: make them legit content. I mean, they made an incredible

510
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 6: run this season just to make the playing tournament. That's

511
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 6: how bad the team is. So yeah, I would love

512
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 6: to see belle A on a legit team. Now. Look,

513
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 6: he signed that contract last season when he could have,

514
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 6: you know, potentially said you know what, I'm gonna wait

515
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 6: and see let my contract play out here and go

516
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 6: somewhere else. But he took the money, so he understood

517
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 6: what he was signing up for. But after nine seasons

518
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 6: and you've been you know, the player that he has,

519
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 6: and you've grown and really shown to be an awesome player.

520
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 6: I don't think it's too much to say to the franchise,

521
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 6: can you move me somewhere else?

522
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 5: Now?

523
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 6: This is not working? Because what's the best chance right

524
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 6: now for the Wizards next season? Anyway, same sort of situation,

525
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 6: playing tournament, that's their ceiling. They're no, they're no better

526
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 6: than that. So yes, I would love to see him

527
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 6: traded to. There's a couple of teams out there.

528
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Warriors apparently are interested. Seventy six ers are

529
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: always interested, are always interested. There's a there's rumors swirling

530
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: that the Hawks could put together a really in taste

531
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: package and add him to the mix.

532
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 5: Where do you want to see him?

533
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 6: Well, I think Philadelphia would be a pretty good spot there,

534
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 6: him and Joel Embiid because you know, look, Ben Simmons

535
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 6: is good in transition, but he can't shoot. Bradley Beal can,

536
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 6: so that could really open up the floor if those

537
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 6: two could work together. So I would like to see

538
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 6: him there. I mean the worries obviously, I mean he'd

539
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 6: be great out there if everyone's healthy, Clay and Staph

540
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 6: and Draymon there.

541
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Speaker 7: That's a while to wrap your head around that team. Yeah,

542
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 7: I don't think it's likely, But no, I don't think so.

543
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 7: I think I think there could be something with the

544
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 7: Hawks there too. Maybe I don't know who.

545
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 6: They would sort of give up, maybe a sign and

546
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 6: trade something with John Collins perhaps could entice the Wizards.

547
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 6: But yeah, I just want to see him in a

548
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 6: different situation.

549
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

550
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: With the numbers with Bill, he has the ability to

551
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: become a free agent next off season. Okay, yes, Due

552
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: to a thirty six point four million dollars player option

553
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 2: after the twenty one twenty two campaign, he is eligible

554
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: for a four year, one hundred and eighty two million

555
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: contract extension this summer with the Wizard or then the

556
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: tenure that max extension next summer, which was total like

557
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: five years, like two hundred and thirty five million. Those

558
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 2: are sort of his options. But TK if he is

559
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: not signing, maybe even this next extension, this one that

560
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: is sort of there. Yeah, maybe it is time for

561
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: the Wizards to just assess trade packages and make the

562
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: move now. Because I'm with Lee, it's like, what is like, like,

563
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: are they gonna play? What was the run they went

564
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: on there? They like finished, like I forget what it was.

565
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: They started seventeen thirty two some garbage like that and

566
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: then won seventeen games over the remaining whatever it was.

567
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 2: You know, they went on that great run, But like,

568
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: do we really believe they're that second half team for

569
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: an entire season with a new coach and moving forward?

570
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 5: Or yeah, do you just press the button and blow

571
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 5: it up? It's time? I mean exactly right. They went

572
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 5: on a huge run in the second half of the

573
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 5: season to finish four games under five hund Yeah, you

574
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 5: got like, what is literally what is the ceiling? I'm

575
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 5: maybe a little bit more optimistic than Lee on the

576
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: ceiling of a Beal in Westbrook, but for me, that

577
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 5: means the eighth seed rather than the tenth. This doesn't

578
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 5: seem like a team that's gonna make a lot of

579
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 5: noise in the playoffs. It would be awesome for the

580
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 5: Wizards if they could win a playoff series, and that

581
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 5: just does not seem very likely to me. Westbrook's gonna

582
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 5: be a hard contract to move off of, just because

583
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 5: it's such a big deal and you never know what

584
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 5: you're gonna get with Westbrook. It feels like you get

585
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: fifty percent of people saying this Westbrook contract looks bad

586
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 5: for the first half of the season. Then he turns

587
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 5: it on the second half of the season averages a

588
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 5: triple double, and you're like, oh, maybe it wasn't such

589
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 5: a bad deal. I still think it'll be tough to

590
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 5: get off. You're gonna have to have some sort of

591
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 5: draft assets to probably move that contract that thrown in

592
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 5: a first round pick. The Wizards are doing pretty well

593
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 5: on their first round picks right now. I think they've

594
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 5: got all of them except for maybe twenty two. But

595
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 5: if you're able to move Beal, you get more picks

596
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: back in and makes it a little easier to move Westbrook. Plus,

597
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 5: you've got the start of something new there. They gave

598
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: it a shot. They gave it a shot. With John

599
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 5: Wall as the number one guy, Beal is number two.

600
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 5: Had a little bit of a future right there. Obviously,

601
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 5: Wall got hurt in his career, fell off somewhat, tried

602
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 5: the Bradley Beal as a number one, and he ended

603
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 5: up getting close to the eighth seed. That's not good enough.

604
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 5: And surely Beal, after putting in nine seasons in Washington

605
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 5: heading into his tenth, he's gonna want to try and

606
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 5: win something in the NBA. You know, he's gonna want

607
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 5: to play for a team that's actually competitive.

608
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're hearing like we're hearing Damian Lillard

609
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: be like, I want to be on a championship team.

610
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 5: Like he's had success, He's in the.

611
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: Playoffs, he's gone to the conference finals, he's you know,

612
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: he's won some series like Beal's got none of that.

613
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: And you know, like, I'm not even saying Beal is

614
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: on the on the same level as Lillard.

615
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,479
Speaker 5: I think it's not that you know different.

616
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you would assume the guy wants to win

617
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: some games.

618
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 5: I get it.

619
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool that he like, he's ingrained in the community,

620
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: he loves the organization, he's proven that he wants to

621
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 2: do it there. But at a certain point, I assume

622
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: you also want to win some series and taste some

623
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: success of like maybe being a title contender, and and

624
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: I'm with you guys, like they're not even close. So well,

625
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: we'll see if he ultimately says, yeah, trade me, and hey,

626
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 2: maybe it's even happened behind closed doors. We don't know,

627
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: and suddenly we're just surprise with the Bill deal.

628
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 6: You know, some of their draft picks that they've picked

629
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 6: up in the last seven or eight years. You know,

630
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 6: Jordan Clarkson obviously he's not their otto porter, Jerry and Grant,

631
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 6: Troy Brown at Acchi Mura showed some promise this season,

632
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: but that's it. You know, there's just no one there.

633
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 6: You know, they had Vestly back in the day. That

634
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 6: was before Beale actually, but you know the point being

635
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 6: is there's never It's not like, well, they had a chance.

636
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 6: Then it's kind of like they got lucky with John

637
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 6: Walks at the number one pick. They got lucky with

638
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 6: beer because the Charlotte Bobcats took Michael kid Gilchrist and

639
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 6: that's it. I haven't been able to sign a free

640
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: agent of note, haven't been able to sort of swing

641
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 6: a move to bring in someone. It's kind of like, well,

642
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 6: we got those two guys and let's just hope for

643
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 6: the best outside of that. So if you're Bill, you're

644
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 6: looking at the organization and you're just like, I mean,

645
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 6: what are you guys doing and the stuff? It's tough

646
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 6: because there's not a free agent destination. I mean Kevin Durant,

647
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 6: remember he didn't even think about it for a second.

648
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 6: He was supposedly going home and he didn't even consider it.

649
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 6: So that that is tough on the organization because no

650
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 6: one wants to go and play there. But ultimately, they

651
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 6: haven't done anything either in terms of trades or drafts

652
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 6: or free agent signings that would make Bill think, Okay,

653
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 6: maybe the next five years something could happen.

654
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 5: Let's keep it going.

655
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Cham's reported on Monday, I believe it was that the

656
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: Lakers are pursuing a third stellar player who provides playmaking,

657
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: shot creation around Lebron and ad. Now the Lakers and

658
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: Kings have discussed a deal reportedly centered around Buddy Held.

659
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: Laker forward Kuzma would probably be involved in that potential package. Lee,

660
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: what do you think about this Buddy going to the

661
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: Laker and maybe Kuzma going to the Kings.

662
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 5: Why are you laughing? It's not that funny.

663
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 6: Where did you read this headline? Was this from like

664
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 6: four years ago? Okay, okay, listen. What I know for

665
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 6: sure is that Kuzma and Buddy Healed are gonna be

666
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 6: traded at some point. There might be a three team

667
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 6: in there somehow, but they're gonna be exchanged for each other.

668
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: There's gonna be a deal around it. It's just incredible

669
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 6: how how often these rumors a floating around. Like when

670
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 6: Kuzma plays well, it's like he's untouchable. According to Lakers fans,

671
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 6: he has a couple of stinkers and it's like, get

672
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 6: him out of here. Let's get Buddy Hill down there.

673
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 6: Buddy is a very good three point shooter. He's really

674
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 6: developed that into that into his game. So when you're

675
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 6: playing with Lebron James, if you can shoot those threes,

676
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 6: that there's definitely a role there for you and Kuzma.

677
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 6: It feels like, again it's just he's good enough to trade,

678
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 6: but he's not good enough that he's untouchable for the Lakers.

679
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure it's got a real Tobias Harris vibe.

680
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 6: He's had games and moments where he's had to come

681
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 6: into the starting lineup and fill in it, and he's played.

682
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 6: But then when you go back to the bench roll

683
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 6: and you have to change, you get a fewer shots.

684
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 6: It's hard to be consistent, especially with such a franchise,

685
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 6: with the expectations they have right now. So Kuzma is

686
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 6: a bit of the whipping boy out there. People love

687
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 6: him when he's great, but as soon as he has

688
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 6: a stinker or two, they, you know, the Lakers fans

689
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 6: turn on him. So and Buddy Healed, we know he

690
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 6: wants out of Sacramento. He said as much. I mean,

691
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 6: the relationship improved a little there with Luke Walton this season,

692
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 6: but ultimately Buddy Heel was liking tweets last year when

693
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 6: people were saying trade him out of Sacramento. So him

694
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 6: and Kuzma are getting be involved in the same trade.

695
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 6: I feel there's going to be a third team, though

696
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 6: involved in Philadelphia, were going to get in on this

697
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 6: as well. I can just feel it because I think

698
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 6: Buddy Heel is a classic Daryl Morey type player, and

699
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 6: if he's available for trade and a guy who can

700
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 6: spread the floor, I think he's going to get involved.

701
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 6: I think it was absolutely this is a bushfire as

702
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 6: far as you know trade rumors.

703
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: I think it was Brian wynd Horris said. I believe

704
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: it was him that said, or maybe it was well

705
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: was Low, I can't remember, but that Kuzma and CACP.

706
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: I guess the Lakers every single team TK and said

707
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 2: do you want him? What could you offer back in

708
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: return for them? Which I sort of believe well.

709
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: Skeets I've got that in my notes too, and also

710
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 5: unsure who exactly said it, but I think it was

711
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: on the zactual podcast. I don't know if the guest

712
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 5: was wind Horst or Low, but yeah, they're basically offering

713
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 5: Kuzman KCP to every team and if Buddy Heald is

714
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 5: the guy they get back. I think that's actually a

715
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: nice hault for the Lakers. I don't think he's not

716
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 5: the playmaker that they're that they're targeting, but he is

717
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 5: a great shooter and that makes things really easy for

718
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 5: Lebron and ad inside, especially the fearlessness, right, Like that's

719
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 5: the other thing with Buddy Heeld is like the guy's

720
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: gonna shoot it, which is like, that's why j R.

721
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 5: Smith had so much success playing onside Lebron, right, like,

722
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 5: just catch it and let it fly. Lebron's never going

723
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 5: to say you take a bad shot if it's a

724
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 5: three pointer off the pass from him. I also think

725
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: every player is going to be better as soon as

726
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 5: they get away from Sacramento. That's just how things go.

727
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 5: He's obviously not happy there, Like Lee's saying, he's cheaper

728
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: right now than Kuzman kcp's deal combined and his deal declines,

729
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 5: So Buddy Held should be in major demand, especially since

730
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 5: he doesn't feel as much like a part of the

731
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 5: future for Sacramento now that they've got Tyrese Haliburton alongside

732
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 5: Deer and Fox. I don't necessarily know that getting Kuzman

733
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 5: KCP back is enough for Buddy Heel. I know he

734
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 5: was a big he has a lot of fans in

735
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 5: the front office at Sacramento. I think vivik Aranadive was

736
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 5: like super instrumental in him eventually coming to the King.

737
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 5: So maybe it's not quite time to cut bait, but

738
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 5: they would want to get something back. I don't know

739
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: if that means a pick or something or figuring out

740
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: a way like Lee is saying to get KCP or

741
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: Kuzma to the sixers and get something back there, because

742
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: I think you're downngrading significantly going from Bud Buddy Heel

743
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 5: to Kuzman and KCP. Those guys are role players, whereas Lee,

744
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: at least with Healed, you can you know, you can

745
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 5: pag him as your number three guy or something like that.

746
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 5: So I would think Sacramento wants a little bit more.

747
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 5: But if the Lakers can get Buddy Heal, that's nice. Yeah.

748
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: Heild is one of the best three point shooters in

749
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: the league. Like hands down, he shot thirty nine percent

750
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: from distance on ten point two attempts. Good call on

751
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: the JR. Smith sort of comparison there. He's like a

752
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: souped up version of j R. Smith if you put

753
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: him beside Lebron and the Lakers were twenty fourth and

754
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: three points attempted per game, twenty first and three point percent,

755
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: so they want to get better there, always want to

756
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: surround Lebron with more shooters and ad for that matter.

757
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 5: So that makes sense.

758
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: I think there's something to this one, and hey, didn't

759
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: Kuzma play great under Luke Walton when he was in

760
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: La Flourish.

761
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 5: I can't remember.

762
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: Maybe a little little reunion there and in Sacramento if

763
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: Wulton is still there, Yeah he did, he played for him.

764
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that was when Thekers obviously with that Lebrono.

765
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

766
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: All right, final like sort of I guess, rumor whatever

767
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: you want to call it, Lowry is expected to be

768
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: pursued by a number of teams, the Mavericks, the Lakers, Pelicans.

769
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: As we talked about the Heat and the seventy six

770
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: ers in free agency, you know, this is nothing really

771
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: new Ley, but it's looking more and more likely like

772
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: the Groat, the greatest raptor of all time, will not

773
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: be in Toronto. And maybe it's a sign and trade deal,

774
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: and maybe it's not with the Pelicans, who could just

775
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: outright sign them, probably for the right number. But what

776
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: do you think of the Lowry news?

777
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: Well, I think, as Trey alluded to early, if Kyle

778
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 6: Lowry wants money, he can get a big fat deal

779
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 6: from the Pelicans. If he wants to go to a

780
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 6: team where he's more likely to contend, then he's probably

781
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 6: going to get paid. You know, pennies on the dollar

782
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 6: in return, because the Lakers and the MAVs, for example,

783
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 6: don't have a tarn of cap space, neither to the Heat.

784
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 6: So if he at this stage of his career, you

785
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: would think a guy is looking more to win championships

786
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 6: than to fatten his bank account. I mean, he's been

787
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 6: paid pretty well over his career. But of course, you know,

788
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 6: I'm not in the position where someone could say, here's

789
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 6: thirty five million for two years versus maybe twenty five

790
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: million for two years. But you get to win a

791
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 6: championship if you know. So those are the decisions have

792
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: to make. But I'll tell you what, he's a free

793
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 6: agent at the right time because you know, he's got

794
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 6: so much interest there and you can see why, Like, look,

795
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 6: he's he's thirty five. He's going to be thirty six

796
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 6: early into the new season there, and he had a

797
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 6: good season last year, shot the three point a well,

798
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 6: which is great, seventeen points a game, so he's still producing.

799
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 6: But it's just you know, he's thirty gonna be thirty

800
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 6: six years old, and you don't, you know, if you're

801
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 6: a young team like the Pelicans, I don't quite see

802
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 6: this as a Chris Paul situation where they're ready to

803
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 6: make that next leap, you know, so I'm not sure

804
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: if he's the right fit long term for them, Whereas

805
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 6: if you're the Lakers, it's like that's exactly what they need.

806
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 6: The Clippers as well, and again I know they don't

807
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 6: have a ton of cap space, but they would love

808
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 6: someone like Kyle Larry. They were desperate for a playmaking,

809
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: you know, point guard who can also shoot last season

810
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: and they you know, they struck out. They traded for

811
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 6: Rondo that didn't really work. So there's no doubt he

812
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 6: could basically pick whichever team he wants to go to.

813
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 6: It's just whether or not he's looking for a bit

814
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 6: of a bag as well, so you know, he might

815
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 6: have to find the team that has just enough cap

816
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 6: space that he's okay, okay, I'm gonna have to give

817
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 6: back a little bit of money here, or if he

818
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 6: wants to cash in, then he's like, I'm probably not

819
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 6: gonna win a championship. So but there's no question there's

820
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 6: gonna be a lot of teams in I will say

821
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 6: last three seasons. Kyle Larry is tough. He throws his

822
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 6: body on the line, he plays defense. I think he's

823
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 6: always in the top of those hustle stats and chart

824
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 6: just taken, so we know he sacrificed his body. But

825
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 6: maybe that's catching up with him a little bit because

826
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: he's missing you know, quite a few games over these

827
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 6: last three seasons as well. So that's something to take

828
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 6: into account that if it's an eighty two game season

829
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 6: next season, which we expect, you might only get him

830
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 6: for you know, fifty five or sixty games. So whether

831
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 6: or not that's a factor, who knows. But you know,

832
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 6: he's he's definitely got the respect around the league that

833
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 6: he's a tough player who can improve a team and

834
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: play both ends.

835
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

836
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: Should I mean, like all of these teams should have

837
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: traded for him at the trade thall line, what helped

838
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: their chances to win a taitle? But TK, what do

839
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 2: you think? Yeah, I think Missay made a mistate not

840
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: trading Kyle Lowry. Had some deals out there, definitely should

841
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: have pulled it off.

842
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: I actually agree with Lee, A perfect time for Kyle

843
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: Lurry to be a free agent because, like Yash says

844
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: in the stream, team, Chris Paul's making all these teams

845
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 5: believing Kyle Lowry, there are teams clearing cap space and

846
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 5: lining up to sign a guy who's going to be

847
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 5: thirty six years old at the beginning of next season.

848
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 5: That's pretty crazy. But he brings you everything you would

849
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 5: want in a point guard that you're adding as a piece.

850
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 5: He can play on the ball, he can play off

851
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: the ball, he can shoot threes, he obviously plays defense,

852
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 5: and he brings incredible leadership. It's just gonna come down

853
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 5: to what matters the most to Kyle Lowry. Is it

854
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 5: gonna be money? Then you're signing with the Pelicans. Is

855
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 5: it going to be a championship? You figure out a

856
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: way to get to the Lakers? Is it friendship? Maybe

857
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: you sign with the Miami Heat apparently he's close friends

858
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 5: with Jimmy Butler. Or give DeMar DeRozan a call, Hey, buddy,

859
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 5: where are you thinking of signing? Would you like to

860
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 5: reunite and get that title we never got together? Let's

861
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: do it. It's theoretically possible. There's a lot of ways

862
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 5: Lowery could go. We shall see. I think personally I

863
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 5: would like to see him in Dallas next to Luca.

864
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 5: I think that that answers all the questions you have

865
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: alongside a guy next to Luca just being able to

866
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: be the secondary ball handler who also provides some support

867
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 5: shooting from the outside. He takes the better guard defensively.

868
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: I like to fit there more than anywhere else because

869
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 5: it's kind of like it is the Chris Paul, right,

870
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 5: it is the Chris Paul signing there, where Luca is

871
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 5: the Devin Booker. You're adding this veteran piece who knows

872
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: how to play in the NBA and knows how to

873
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: advance your career. That's where I would like to see him.

874
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: But we'll see what matters to Kyle at this point

875
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 5: is in his career.

876
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. Andrew, what's your schedule look like this week?

877
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: Because I got I got a feeling we're gonna have

878
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: to have an emergency podcast in the next couple of days. Here,

879
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: be it Lowry, be it, be be it somebody else.

880
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're doing an emergency podcast for

881
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: the Buddy Healed Kyle Kuzma trade. Probably not, But uh,

882
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: is your is your is your week open?

883
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 4: The only thing I have on the docket is that

884
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 4: we we got this giant inflatable t rex that we

885
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: put in our pool. Okay, and uh, I'll probably be

886
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 4: playing on that sub, but beyond that, I'll be ready

887
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 4: to go.

888
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: And what do you mean you just climb on it

889
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: in the pool and jump off it.

890
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like an inflatable. Yeah. The kids

891
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: are jumping on and pushing each other off of it.

892
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, fantastic.

893
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, well we might have to call you

894
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: away from the pool if Lowry gets traded, but otherwise

895
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: split splash around. Okay, let's we'll get to the Olympics

896
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: talk in a second here, but let's take our first break. Okay,

897
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: into our Olympics talk here. But for everyone that joined

898
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: us a little after we started, a quick reminder for

899
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: the stream teamers out there, we got some new shirts

900
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: over at No dunks dot com. Yeah, we got a

901
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: stream team shirt. Stream team better than the Dream Team.

902
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: Hmmm possible.

903
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: So going over to No dunks dot com to grab

904
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: that new No Dunk's merch. Yeah, guys, let's start with

905
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: Team USA, Oh boy TK on Sunday defeated by France.

906
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: Team USA was for their first Olympic loss since two

907
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: thousand and four. Trey, at last we checked in with you,

908
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: you were a nine I think on the worried scale

909
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: for Team USA's chances to win gold. I'm guessing it's

910
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: gone up.

911
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 5: Is it? Is it a ten?

912
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: Is it over a ten? Somehow is that even possible?

913
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 6: Uh?

914
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think of this?

915
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: Uh?

916
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: You know, look pretty astonishing to a good France team,

917
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: but a team still the USA should be well.

918
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 5: I was at a nine skeets until we started getting

919
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: some emails from Breaking Tea saying we got to get

920
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 5: these things out fast before Team USA loses it again

921
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 5: is eliminated from the Olympics. So I had to upgrade

922
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 5: to a ten. What is going on here? This is

923
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 5: getting ridiculous. The same things that were a problem in

924
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 5: twenty nineteen World Cup there's still a problem now. First

925
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 5: of all, they're getting torched on the perimeter. When Nigeria

926
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 5: beat the United States and a friendly, tons of three pointers.

927
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 5: When Australia beat the United States and a friendly, it

928
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 5: was Patty Mills going off. And now against France in

929
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: a game that really counts, it was Evan forty eight

930
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 5: going wild, twenty eight points, hit some big shots down

931
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 5: the stretch. To me, that one comes down to roster construction.

932
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 5: There are no stoppers on the Team USA team except

933
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 5: for Drew Holliday, who was just playing in the NBA

934
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 5: Finals and somehow was the best player for Team USA

935
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 5: in this loss against France. But when you look at

936
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Speaker 5: the person I know they're sending out there, Damian Lillard,

937
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: Bradley Beal, Zach Lavine, they're not getting stops and that's

938
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 5: not a big deal if they hit shots. But that's

939
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 5: the biggest problem to me. Why is Team USA's offense

940
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 5: so bad? They had an eight point lead with about

941
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 5: three minutes left, out scored sixteen to two and didn't

942
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: make a field goal the last three minutes. They had

943
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 5: a bunch of great looks to take the lead with

944
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 5: about what fifty seconds left, and it was just brick city.

945
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 5: They also had a stretch where they scored three points

946
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: in seven minutes during the third quarter. And this to

947
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: me comes down to Greg Popovich. This is literally a

948
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 5: what are we running here? Sort of compliment or criticism because,

949
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: according to Joe Varden, of the athletic players are grumbling

950
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 5: about running the San Antonio offense after the game, it

951
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 5: feels like the Americans can't score inside in half court sets.

952
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 5: Only Drew Holliday was attacking the rim. I think it's

953
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 5: too much teamwork. You gotta let Kevin Durant cook, and

954
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: you gotta let Damian Lillard cook Slovenia. They're not worried

955
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 5: about getting Zor and dragis loose. You know what I'm saying.

956
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant should shoot fifteen to twenty times a game.

957
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 5: Obviously he was in foul trouble for this one, but

958
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 5: he should be leading the way. Damian Lillard should be

959
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 5: the number two, ten to twelve shots a game. Everybody

960
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 5: else you're getting three looks, maybe five. You got people

961
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 5: calling Dancis the best player in the tournament. He has

962
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: been so far, but did you watch the playoffs that

963
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 5: happened a month ago. Kevin Durantz one of the two

964
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 5: or three best players in the NBA. Give him the

965
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: ball and let him go to work. The guy's incredible.

966
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: Somebody needs to get inside and score some buckets at

967
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 5: the rim for you. The United States, this should be

968
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant's team. They're gonna beat Iron, no doubt about it,

969
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 5: but they need to look like Team USA against the

970
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 5: Czech Republic. I know Greg Popovich thinks it's a diss

971
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 5: to expect a blowout from Team USA I'm not expecting

972
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 5: a blowout, but I'm expecting them to win like they

973
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 5: should win these games. There's a lot of talk about

974
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 5: the world that's caught up to the USA, and you

975
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 5: know this isn't the same Team USA team. I'm sorry.

976
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 5: They're still running a lot of all stars out there,

977
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 5: and you know there's one star on the France team.

978
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: Havin fourty eight is a solid player, but the guy

979
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 5: look like Luka Doncic against Team USA. There's got to

980
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 5: be something offensively that makes more sense. You can't go

981
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 5: ten minutes of the game scoring five points, and that's

982
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 5: what it is. If you had that third quarter run

983
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 5: in that fourth quarter end of the game up five

984
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 5: points and ten minutes from a Team USA team with

985
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant out there, that doesn't make sense.

986
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 2: Well, you talked about them, yeah, not attacking. Part of

987
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: that is Gobert, the actual all star on Team France.

988
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: There he can just sit back there, league because there's

989
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 2: no three second defensive violation, and that's what you should

990
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: do if you have Gobert. And Trey said it, Durant

991
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: was in foul trouble and Lillard's shot he was horrible

992
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: three to ten. He had more turnovers and assists, so

993
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: he played poorly. They had chances though, they had like

994
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: five chances there. They had like on one possession, they

995
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: had five shots and Levine missed an open three. Kid

996
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: he missed it open three. Drew Holiday missed and open

997
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: three in the corner.

998
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 5: What do you make of this?

999
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: Should we panic? Or was this like, you know, don't worry.

1000
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: You're probably not playing another team like built like France

1001
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: with Gobert and they had a couple other two other

1002
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: giants seven footers that played big, big, like you'll see

1003
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: different teams and get back to being teams like Trey's

1004
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: playing and just sort of let it free flow a

1005
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: little freely. Or is this a concern because they've lost

1006
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: a lot of games here, they lost fight in their

1007
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: last year games.

1008
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: Now, well, I think a couple of things. I think

1009
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 6: if they do hit maybe two shots down the stretch

1010
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 6: in the last minute, they probably can pull this win out.

1011
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: They didn't do it. They just couldn't hit shots like that.

1012
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 6: But the other thing is, you know, as Trey sort

1013
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 6: of alluded to there, no one in the world would,

1014
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 6: of course question whether or not Evan Fournier was a

1015
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 6: better basketball player than Kevin Durant, but in the system

1016
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 6: that he played on that particular game, he looked better.

1017
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 6: He just looked but he knew where to go, Whereas

1018
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 6: it felt like the USA didn't quite know how to

1019
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 6: use Kevin Durant, which is incredible because how much sort

1020
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 6: of practice or thought you need to put into just say,

1021
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 6: Kevin Durant's awesome. No one can stop him. Let's just

1022
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 6: get in the wall now. The foul trouble came into

1023
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 6: play a little bit. But again, these teams, like I

1024
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 6: feel like we've seen Gobert and Evan Fournier for honestly,

1025
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: like Tenlympics in a row. These guys just always sort

1026
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 6: of turn up for their team. And that's the other

1027
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 6: thing another I think a big problem actually for the

1028
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 6: USA that they really can't address. When they had the

1029
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 6: Dream Team, and again this is obviously a long time ago,

1030
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 6: nearly thirty years ago now, but it felt like even

1031
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 6: the smallest players, even a guy like Michael Jordan and

1032
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 6: Scottie Pippen physically just looks so much bigger than their opponents.

1033
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 6: You know, when Robinson was out there and Patrick Ewing,

1034
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 6: it felt like every other team center was like a

1035
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 6: six to eight guy who was just trying to sort

1036
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 6: of punch above his weight. France, to me, looked the

1037
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 6: opposite now of that. It looked like Kevin Durant out there, who's,

1038
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 6: you know, a seven footer or close enough. He looked

1039
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 6: like he was only about six five six six there,

1040
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 6: and he was playing in the paint defensively little bit.

1041
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 6: Even bam Adebow, who is a physically big guy, It's

1042
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 6: like Gobert looked gigantic. And they had another couple of

1043
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 6: guys off the bench there for France. When those big

1044
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 6: bodies came in, it felt to me like it was like, Wow,

1045
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 6: the US is really missing some physical advantage that they

1046
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 6: have had in the past. And again they're not going

1047
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 6: to be able to replace those players. But again, when

1048
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 6: you got Lillard and when you've got Kevin Durant, those

1049
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 6: guys should be able to score a lot easier than

1050
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 6: they were able to in that first game. But again,

1051
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 6: this is the first game. You're not out. I think

1052
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 6: eight of the twelve teams make it through to the

1053
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 6: sort of knockout stage there, so basically a victory over

1054
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 6: Iran and another victory over Czech Republic will put them

1055
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 6: through For sure, they could probably even lose to the

1056
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: Czech Republic and still make it through I believe.

1057
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 5: I mean they would have to hammer Iran, which they probably.

1058
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: Well yeah, yeah, so again, and sometimes losing at the start,

1059
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, we are now almost in desperation mode

1060
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 6: straight away. So that's a good thing I think for

1061
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 6: the USA, that's like we have to be locked in

1062
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 6: from the start.

1063
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 5: But lease, game though, I want to ask you. You're

1064
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: a pop apologist, for sure, you love pop. We all do.

1065
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: But is Trey Ray, like, should he stop trying to

1066
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: run a Spurs offense with this tape of squad and

1067
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: just sit down and pretend it's almost like a damn

1068
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: All Star game and let and put Katie in a

1069
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: million pick and rolls or whatever. Lillard like, yeah, and

1070
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: just stop overthinking it and like the beautiful Bob and

1071
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 2: like and you the opposite, what do you say?

1072
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny because at times the USA, in those

1073
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 6: preliminary losses against like Australia and Nigeria, it looked like

1074
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 6: there was far too much yea true, you know, and

1075
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 6: Greeg Popovicher's Spurs teams at their best, that ball was

1076
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 6: moving around and this is you know, seven eight years

1077
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 6: ago now since they won a championship. So and Popovich

1078
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 6: likes to take on that that international style of like

1079
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 6: ball movement, ball move get to your spot, you know,

1080
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 6: just keep zipping it around until you find someone open.

1081
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 6: So it's almost like, okay, but when you've got Kevin Durant,

1082
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 6: maybe it's better to go away from that and just

1083
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 6: focus on him, focus on a Lilard who you know,

1084
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 6: whoever the best player is on the court at the time.

1085
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 6: But I do think that Durant, I think his first

1086
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 6: couple of shots and only finished with nine points, so

1087
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 6: clearly he's not getting quiet enough involved in the offense.

1088
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 6: I think you need to realize that is your strength,

1089
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 6: that is your power. But if he's on the if

1090
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 6: he's on the bench, and there are other guys out

1091
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 6: there who aren't as dominant as Durant, then maybe that's

1092
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 6: where the ball movement comes into play. But it is

1093
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 6: interesting that the players is certainly there's some rumblings that

1094
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 6: they're a little disgruntled with the way the offense is moving,

1095
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 6: the offense is running. But this game, again, if the

1096
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 6: US execute in that last minute, I think they probably

1097
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 6: win this game. I think I think it came down

1098
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 6: to more just like, man, they had such a stinker

1099
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 6: of a last minute unable to execute that. It sort

1100
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 6: of blew things up a little bit more. But again,

1101
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 6: there's more talent on the US team than any other

1102
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 6: team in the in the entire Olympics. They just have

1103
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 6: to find a way to work together and play together better.

1104
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 5: Definitely mix for a more exciting Olympic turn.

1105
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, with the States losing their first game again,

1106
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: I think they're going to just destroy it. Man, they're

1107
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: gonna win my thirty plus points. But yeah, the Czech

1108
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: Republic team will be uh. I assume a lot closer

1109
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: than that, and it could, yeah, could decide whether you

1110
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: actually make it in to the into the next round.

1111
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,800
Speaker 2: That would be amazing. If Go bounced in the preliminaries,

1112
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 2: like it's like, doesn't even seem possible. I don't think

1113
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: it happens. But TK, would you bet on Tmosa to

1114
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 2: win gold? Still at this point, I know they're the favorite?

1115
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: Still of course say okay, so of course when you

1116
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 5: think I'm picking against Team USA, that's why I can't

1117
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 5: get to a total ten on the worried scale. I'll

1118
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 5: go to a nine point nine. But if Thomas Sataransky

1119
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 5: lights up the USA, but I'll change my mind, Skeets,

1120
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 5: But come on, just give Kevin Durant the ball. Let

1121
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 5: him shoot the ball forty times in a game. He's

1122
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: the most established player on Team USA. He's the best

1123
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 5: player maybe in the world. And we're trying to get

1124
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 5: zach Lavine involved. No offense. I love zach Lavine. He's

1125
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 5: a balls all star. Pass it to Kevin Durant, buddy, Okay,

1126
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: all right, yeah.

1127
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 2: We'll see they play Iran. I guess like super late tonight,

1128
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: really Wednesday morning. It's like twelve forty am Eastern time,

1129
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. Then they play the Czech Republic a little

1130
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: bit later, and then we'll see who they're playing in

1131
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: the next round. I do love when these like good

1132
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: international players, like a fourgnier, a Patty Mills, Sataranski even.

1133
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 5: I love what they look like.

1134
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: God, they have superstars on their international squads. I love it.

1135
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 5: It's so weird.

1136
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: It's like, he's a good NBA player, one of the

1137
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: best basketball players on the planet. But man, when they

1138
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: are repping for their home country and they're the guy,

1139
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: it's like, oh yeah, these guys can be special and

1140
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: they're not They're not afraid. Obviously, they know it's like

1141
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 2: the pecking order. They know they have to sort of

1142
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: lead their team and they're going to go down shooting,

1143
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: and these guys can catch fire.

1144
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 5: Like Gordon Dragic.

1145
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 2: I think you'd throw into that mix for I know

1146
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: he's not playing this year, but wor well, let's let's well,

1147
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: let's talk about them, because yeah, Luca was the real,

1148
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: uh star of these first couple of games in the Olympics.

1149
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: On Monday, scored forty eight points. These are forty minute games.

1150
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, Uh, that is not easy.

1151
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: Scores forty eight in forty minutes his Olympic debut as

1152
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 2: Slovenia wins over Argentina. Lely, what a performance. I don't

1153
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: know if you watch the game or you just watch

1154
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: the highlights. My goodness, he was hitting some ridiculous shots.

1155
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 6: Fortunately there were highlights all over the place, because I

1156
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 6: was not expecting that sort of a performance in his

1157
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 6: very first game. You mentioned the forty minute games, He

1158
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 6: only played thirty one minutes because they blew them out.

1159
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 6: The record is fifty five by Oscar Schmidt, the Brazilian

1160
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 6: in the playoffs in the Olympics. Now, I pro rated

1161
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 6: Luca's score line here, so if he was to play

1162
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 6: the full game or even up to thirty eight minutes

1163
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 6: and score another eight points, he would have had fifty six,

1164
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 6: so he would hold the Olympic record.

1165
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: But he says he doesn't care about it. He just

1166
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: wanted them to go get it.

1167
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he doesn't even want to talk about the

1168
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 6: Mavericks right now either. He only has focused on Slovenia.

1169
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 6: But I just can't believe how easily dominant he was

1170
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 6: in that first game against a team that we know.

1171
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1172
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 6: Look, Luis scoll A top scored for Argentina, which is

1173
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 6: crazy to say, but Argentina is another one of those

1174
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 6: tough experience team. They're a gold medalist from two thousand

1175
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 6: and four, so you know there's some real.

1176
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: You know, older than you.

1177
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 6: No, I know they're old, but I'm saying that there's

1178
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 6: a lot of pride with that team. They have expectations.

1179
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 6: This team doesn't come and just turn up and think, oh,

1180
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 6: we just want to have a good performance. They expect

1181
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 6: to be in metal contention. But honestly, this game was

1182
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 6: over pretty early because Doncic was just so good and

1183
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 6: they had no answer for him. He was bodying a

1184
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 6: few guys as well, which is again incredible for a

1185
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 6: twenty two year old guy to be so physically strong.

1186
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 6: An amazing performance. And man, imagine, imagine we get Luca

1187
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 6: in the gold medal game. I mean that would be

1188
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 6: huge for basketball, I think, to see him on that

1189
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 6: stage because he's had such a good start to his

1190
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 6: NBA career. We know he had a great European career.

1191
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 6: If he was able to carry Slovenia into a potential

1192
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,479
Speaker 6: gold medal game at twenty two, I mean, that would

1193
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 6: be amazing. So it's incredible to watch, and yeah, can't

1194
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 6: wait for the next game. It's going to be great.

1195
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: So, yeah, Trey, you want Katie to play like Luca played?

1196
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1197
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he took what twenty nine shots in thirty one minutes.

1198
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 5: You talk about the pecking order, skeets, there's no question

1199
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 5: who is number one for Slovenia. Lucas going to do

1200
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 5: it all and he's going to get the ball every

1201
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 5: single time. He's the best player on the team. That's

1202
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 5: how it should be. Why don't you do the same thing,

1203
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 5: Greg Popovic?

1204
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see if they switch up their game plan

1205
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: here ley just quickly, Australia got to win, yeah, in

1206
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 2: their one game, so good start for you guys. I

1207
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: know they're in Group B with Italy, Germany and Nigeria Slovenia.

1208
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 2: Like we talked about one, Spain won their game and

1209
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: then yeah, France and the Czech Republic. Those are your

1210
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: undefeated teams. But action by the time you've listened to this,

1211
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: there might be some other games that played. I think

1212
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: Nigeria is playing Germany somewhat soon.

1213
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, because Stralia plays Italy again overnight in the morning.

1214
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 5: Wherever you are.

1215
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, this isn't very difficult to try and try

1216
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: and consume the Olympics. Actually, like figuring out times, even

1217
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 2: figuring out how to watch Team USA games. Well, it

1218
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: turns out at least I needed Peacock Premium. You know,

1219
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: if you have the Peacock Free plan, you can watch

1220
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 2: everything except Team USA games. Got you by the balls

1221
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: on that one. So yep, four ninety nine going into

1222
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 2: the Peacock's.

1223
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 5: Feathers, but right into the feathers. It's difficult with the

1224
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 5: huge time difference. For sure.

1225
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: When these things are going on, I never know what

1226
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: the hell I'm watching, Whether it's live, whether it's the

1227
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: day before, whether it's recorded earlier, Who cares, I guess ultimately,

1228
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 2: But do you guys have as we wrap this up here,

1229
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: a favorite Olympic moment so far? I mean, of course

1230
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 2: doesn't need to include basketball, Trey anything come to mind.

1231
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: What's been your favorite? I know there's a million things

1232
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: we could talk about, but what would you pick one?

1233
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 5: I think it was Saturday night at least here in

1234
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 5: the States. Yeah, who knows. It was definitely daytime when

1235
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 5: they were skating. Japanese skateboarder you te Hora gome first

1236
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: person to win skateboarding gold at the Olympics, and guys,

1237
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 5: it was Hella type bro. That was Rad? Was it?

1238
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 5: It was fucking sick Bro. I get Rad a hometown kid.

1239
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 5: He grew up like an hour from the skate facility.

1240
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 5: They said, all around, all around the skating facility. They

1241
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 5: got his poster up everywhere. He's gonna be one of

1242
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 5: the faces of the Olympics. He's basically rocking like John

1243
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 5: Lennon's nineteen sixty five haircut, like the old school Beatles. Bang.

1244
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 5: He's a skateboarder who looks like he doesn't want to

1245
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 5: be skateboarding, which to me is like my favorite look.

1246
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 5: You know, like when they land and it almost feels

1247
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 5: like they're struggling, they're just like just the whole body collapses,

1248
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 5: so nonchalant. But this was so much fun to watch.

1249
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 5: Utah started off really slow, but he kept it close

1250
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 5: because the number one ranked American Nigi Houston, just kept

1251
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 5: falling down. Eventually it came down to Horagome needing three

1252
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 5: straight nines on the best trick to pull off the win.

1253
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 5: I think he finished. His best one was a nine

1254
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 5: point five, a Nolly two seventy no slide, absolutely colassic.

1255
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, skateboarding has been awesome. The Fits go Crazy.

1256
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 5: Para did a bunch of graphics for Team USA and

1257
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 5: these other teams that are skating as well. They've got

1258
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: giant cargo pants. I love the French skater Vincent Milieu,

1259
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 5: who looked like a painter rocking the all white. It

1260
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 5: looks awesome in HD with the slow mo you can

1261
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 5: really see the interest intricacy of the trick. You've got

1262
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: some of the skaters listening to headphones, which you don't

1263
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 5: see at the Olympics very often. I heard a Pixie

1264
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 5: song about slicing up eyeballs playing at full volume during

1265
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 5: one of these runs. I'm loving it because all of

1266
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 5: the skaters are also like so supportive of each other. Right,

1267
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 5: they're all competing, but it's also like, oh, you just

1268
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 5: did a Notmally two seventy no slide. I'm doing a

1269
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 5: bigger Notmally two seventy no slide. They really seem to

1270
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: be all united together, even despite the fact that they're

1271
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 5: competing for golds and silvers and bronzes for the first

1272
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 5: time ever. And then Japan followed up this win by

1273
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 5: Oregome with another win in the women's street skating as well,

1274
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 5: a thirteen year old winning gold and a thirteen year

1275
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 5: old from Brazil winning silver. Incredible stuff. I'm loving skateboarding

1276
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 5: at the Olympic.

1277
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got this one's got to stick around. I

1278
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: think it's already locked in for Paris.

1279
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 5: If I have that right.

1280
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four. This one can't go anywhere. This

1281
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: is like has to be on the schedule for the

1282
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: rest of all time. It's fun to watch. I'm with

1283
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: your TK. Also, you get the like nutshot too.

1284
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 5: You see that guy? Oh man, what was it? Angelo Chlora,

1285
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 5: I think did his big move and then just like

1286
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: scouted across this and that that would be brutal in

1287
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 5: the first place, and then I straight up nut shut.

1288
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: Oh god, what about you, Lee? Favorite Olympic moments so.

1289
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 6: Far after the basketball, Yeah, well, look, I love seeing

1290
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 6: it when somebody does really succeed for their country. And

1291
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 6: I've got two, actually, I've got one from the Philippines,

1292
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,479
Speaker 6: Italian hid Lilyan Diaz. She won her country's first ever

1293
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 6: gold medal in the fifty five kilogram category of women's weightlifting,

1294
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 6: and Flora Duffy also took home the country's first ever

1295
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 6: gold medal for the Bahamas in triathlon. And seeing those

1296
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 6: faces of triumph, of jubilation, that's what the Olympic spirit

1297
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 6: is all about for me, you know, like these people

1298
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 6: who represent these countries, their countries have never won a

1299
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 6: gold medal before, and they come through. You see the emotion.

1300
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 6: You see the fans, well you don't see the fans,

1301
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 6: but you see like their co whiches and things like that,

1302
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 6: so happy and going crazy. And I think again, like

1303
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 6: the Olympics feels different these days. You know, It's like

1304
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 6: because the IAC you know, yeah, look they're on the

1305
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 6: take from everyone. They take so much of the fun

1306
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 6: and the glory out of it. But seeing those athletes

1307
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 6: still succeed, I think is really encapsulates what the Olympic

1308
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 6: spirits should be about. So to see people so happy

1309
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 6: and so triumphant, I think is great.

1310
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 2: How do com I mean, of all of all times

1311
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: I could have dropped a homer on you, how did

1312
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: you not pick your Australian swimmer beating Leadecki in the

1313
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: pool and then the coach turning into the.

1314
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Sorry I said

1315
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 6: the Bahamas. It's Bermuda too, where Flora is. By apologies,

1316
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 6: I knew I was going to get that wrong anyway,

1317
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 6: Yeah that was great. Yeahtuff. But also want to shout

1318
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 6: out while we're playing the homer card here, Sarah Blickhaves

1319
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 6: from Sunbury is on the women's Australian basketball team. Now

1320
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 6: we've got a DNP in the lost the Belgium there

1321
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 6: but Somebury being represented at the Olympics. So if the

1322
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 6: australiing women going to win the gold medal, I'm gonna

1323
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 6: feel wonderful get a gold medal, you know, But I

1324
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 6: don't think so.

1325
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure you will, Andrew, if you're still there,

1326
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: Have you been watching the Olympics as you know, like

1327
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: a die hard, like a sickle.

1328
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 5: Like we have.

1329
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, TK almost stole mine. Oh he at the

1330
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: very end he squeezed in. He didn't even say her name.

1331
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: Momiji Nishia, the thirteen year old from Japan winning was

1332
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 4: absolutely gnarly cool.

1333
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: Can you skate it all, Andrew?

1334
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: Oh no, I tried when I was like sixteen, like

1335
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 4: real end of Blink Win eighty two did not work

1336
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 4: out for me. I also wanted to give a shout

1337
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 4: out to Gabby Deck for Argentina, who just a real

1338
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 4: try hard got seventeen points eight boards to assists off

1339
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 4: the bench for Argentina and in a rough one for

1340
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 4: the Argentines.

1341
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: But love to see it. I love, I mean, I

1342
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: love almost every event at the Olympics. But I love

1343
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: the swim meets. I love anything in the pool. And

1344
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys saw it. I think

1345
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 2: it was Saturday night again here when we were watching

1346
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: at least the eighteen year old Tunisian swimmer that like

1347
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 2: shocked himself and everybody. He was in lane eight. He

1348
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: had qualified for the final. His name is Ahmed. He

1349
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: had qualified for the final by zero point seventeen seconds,

1350
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 2: so he just gets in there. He's in Laney, he's

1351
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: way on the end, and everybody's like all focused on

1352
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: the Americans and the Australians and the Europeans, like in

1353
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: the middle of the pool, and like you're watching the

1354
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 2: race unfolds a four hundred meter freestelling, You're like, whoa,

1355
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 2: this guy's this guy in the lead, and you're just

1356
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 2: like he's gonna fall off. He's gonna fall off, Like

1357
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: that's cool. It'd be like everybody always talks about this,

1358
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 2: like like a marathon race or a race you're like

1359
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 2: just sprint out front. So you're in the front for

1360
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: a second, like just go way faster and then you

1361
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: like burn out. Hey, you were leading it at one point,

1362
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: so you're thinking that's gonna happen with this guy. And

1363
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: he just held on and then touched the wall obviously

1364
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: before everybody else. One gold medal for Tunisia in the pool,

1365
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 2: and like he was like it was like tears welling

1366
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 2: in his eyes. Like it was cool, Like you said, Lee,

1367
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: like when even the athletes like surprise themselves. I think

1368
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: like a little bit like, holy crap, nobody had me

1369
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: winning this. And there's a bunch of great videos going

1370
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 2: around online of like the uh, you know, the viewing

1371
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: party and then like losing their mind over him winning.

1372
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: So shout out to Omed there from Tunisia. Eighteen years

1373
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: old doesn't look eighteen looks like a giant of a man.

1374
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: The swimmers' bodies, man, every time, you're.

1375
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 5: Like, holy, what the hell is going on with these

1376
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 5: guys and women for that matter. All right, well, well

1377
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: that's the crazy thing. It's like a swimmer's body, the

1378
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 5: ideal swimmer body, Like you're wearing a triple extra large

1379
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 5: on top because your shoulders are ginormous and your torso

1380
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 5: is so long, but like a twenty four inch in seam,

1381
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 5: like a thirty little legs. But uh, yeah, I don't know.

1382
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 5: Being young is good for the Olympics apparently, right. I

1383
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 5: think it was Jacoby who beat Lily King on hundred

1384
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 5: meter breaststroke and they showed her high school just going

1385
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 5: but bananas when she won the gold medal. Exciting.

1386
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah she's from Alaska, right, Yeah, they said they have

1387
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: one Olympic sized pool in the entire state.

1388
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 5: That's it. Wow, that makes sense. Amazing.

1389
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's take one more break and we'll

1390
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: get to tweet of the night.

1391
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 5: Okay, let's get to tweet of the night.

1392
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: Tweet out the night, Wow tweet.

1393
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 5: Okay.

1394
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: I could have gone a million different directions with tweeted

1395
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 2: the Knight. Obviously, could have gone the Olympic rote because

1396
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 2: there's a million great tweets about the Olympics and a

1397
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: bunch of other NBA rumors and all that. But in

1398
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: the end I went with this one from at mister

1399
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: Strange Fact. He wrote in France, a beautiful fifteen year

1400
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: old stallion Nampeyo often comes to comfort and soothe terminal

1401
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 2: patients at the Techer Hospital in Calais. The horse chooses

1402
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: which patient patient he chooses to see, kicking his hoof

1403
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 2: outside the door. Okay, that's fine, good tweet, But you

1404
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: got to see the photo because that horse is right

1405
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 2: up in the hospital, this elderly, kind looking woman. But

1406
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: my god, that horse is a unit first off, And

1407
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm just not sure how I feel about this. You

1408
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 2: guys know my takes on horses as it is, but wow,

1409
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've ever seen John Mulaney's there's a

1410
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: horse in the hospital a bit. If you haven't check

1411
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: it out, I know it's on YouTube now. It's actually

1412
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: it's comparing a horse in the hospital like Trump when

1413
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 2: he was in the White House, but still is immediately

1414
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: where my wine went TK.

1415
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 5: You're in a hospital, you hear a tap, not a tap,

1416
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 5: you hear a bang bang?

1417
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1418
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 2: Are you excited to have this horse come in and

1419
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: maybe make you smile? Or are you terrified I get

1420
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 2: that horse away from me.

1421
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 5: There's no chance I'm letting a horse in my hotel room,

1422
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 5: in my hospital room. But honestly, if you can fit

1423
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 5: a fully grown horse, this thing looks massive. You're not kidding.

1424
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 5: That's a lot of glue there. That's an absolutely massive horse.

1425
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 5: So think how big this hospital room must be to

1426
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 5: fit a full grown horse. But like, I don't know,

1427
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 5: what are they doing. There's a lot of people standing

1428
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 5: around watching this horse. Well yeah, they're like get up

1429
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 5: in her face. But like if the horse, just like

1430
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, the horse gets a smell of some oatmeal, right,

1431
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 5: what are you gonna do to stop a horse from

1432
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 5: wanting to eat that oat meal? And then you got

1433
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 5: a horse going wild in a hospital room. This I

1434
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 5: don't know. A horse to me does not seem like

1435
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 5: the best therapy. That's what I'm saying.

1436
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 6: What a bet if you, uh, this guy?

1437
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,440
Speaker 5: What what do you.

1438
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 6: Mean if he was on his death bed, you know,

1439
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 6: because he's gonna bet on it.

1440
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 5: Of course, he's got on.

1441
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: Whether this horse accidentally kicks the tea in my Are

1442
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: you talking about would you want to be visited if

1443
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: you're in the hospital from a therapy horse?

1444
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 5: Ah?

1445
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I just don't know. I mean, I

1446
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 6: just can't imagine if like when I was in hospital

1447
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 6: for you know, the wind trap wind Yeah, the last

1448
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 6: thing I wanted was to see a great big horses

1449
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 6: head there. You know, like I'm not sure the horse

1450
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 6: would have chokes you after coming to your door.

1451
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 2: And saying, what's this? What's this guy in here for?

1452
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 5: You couldn't throw out a basketball? Find someone who need well?

1453
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like what are they therapy animals and that,

1454
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 6: you know, people like to take them all on planes

1455
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 6: and that these days, although I think the airlines are

1456
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 6: starting to clamp down because people were getting a bit

1457
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 6: carried away and you know, taking like a peacock and

1458
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 6: stuff like that. It's like, all right, come on, you

1459
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 6: can't take that one in the cabin, you know.

1460
01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 5: Going to watch t USA play while my reason.

1461
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: But traveling home to Canada soon, I'll have to carry

1462
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 2: a peacock on, so I got to watch the game.

1463
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 5: It's part of the job. You have to allow this

1464
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: peacock on. Anyway.

1465
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you.

1466
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 5: That horse.

1467
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: I hope it brings a lot of joy to these people.

1468
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: I hope it.

1469
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 5: It doesn't seem like the most like sanitary animal to

1470
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 5: have it in a hospital.

1471
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: Either, right, I don't know our horses, yeah, I mean

1472
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: just dropping dumps everywhere.

1473
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think they're fairly clean.

1474
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 5: But it's a beautiful Where does it stay when it's

1475
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 5: not visiting people at the hospital.

1476
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 2: I think he comes to the I don't think he

1477
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 2: lives in the hospital.

1478
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he comes to. But what did you tell freight

1479
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 5: elevator up? Yeah, I guess they have like they're given

1480
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 5: this horse too much responsibility. The horse should not be

1481
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 5: making these decisions. I don't think. Leave it up to

1482
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 5: the doctors, not the horses. Pay fifteen year old Stallion's

1483
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 5: beautiful looking horse, no doubt, all right, Andrew Annie thoughts

1484
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 5: on the horse as we wrap this up. It's a

1485
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: bad idea. Yeah, it's not.

1486
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 4: Uh, I feel like you could hurt somebody.

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Speaker 2: But this is a gentle giant obviously that's trained for

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Speaker 2: many years around people. This horse feels comfortable in a hospital.

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Speaker 5: It's too big, too big. It's simply too big. Simply

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Speaker 5: too big.

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Speaker 2: You guys make a great point, like if you could,

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Speaker 2: if you have that much room in your hospital, me

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Speaker 2: add some more beds.

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Speaker 5: Maybe let's take care of more sick people. There's too

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Speaker 5: much room.

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Speaker 2: If a horse can wander around this hospital. Wow, you

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Speaker 2: got too much floor space, Let's use it. Let's utilize

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Speaker 2: that floor space a little bit more. Let's hear from

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Speaker 2: you guys in the stream team. Would you love to

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Speaker 2: be visited by a horse if you were you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you were not doing well and you're in the hospital,

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Speaker 2: maybe you would love it. Let us know, guys, we'll

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Speaker 2: call it.

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Speaker 5: There was a long one.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, thanks so much, of course, filling in. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: be here all week. Love it because we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: your draft expertise as we move on. We are going

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Speaker 2: to hit the beach tomorrow, though, get your questions in

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Speaker 2: no dunks at the Athletic dot com. Who knows, maybe

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Speaker 2: we'll have an emergency podcast or two if a big

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Speaker 2: trade comes our way in the NBA. Go subscribe to

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Speaker 2: The Athletic the Athletic dot com slash No Dunks best

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Speaker 2: way to get there. And they know that we sent you.

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Speaker 2: Think there's a fifty percent off deal right now too,

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Speaker 2: surrounding the draft, and I highly recommend if you don't

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Speaker 2: have that deal or that subscription, you go get it

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Speaker 2: because we're gonna be talking to Hollinger about his mock

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Speaker 2: draft all his breakdowns with these guys leading up to

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Speaker 2: the draft on Thursday night. So go read it so

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Speaker 2: then you'll have a better idea of the questions that

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Speaker 2: we're going to be asking him on Thursday when he

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Speaker 2: joins us. One more reminder too for the stream team.

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Speaker 2: Sure it's available over at No dunks dot com. There

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Speaker 2: they are got the stream team like the Dream Team.

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Speaker 2: Tea got a new colorway on the classic No Dunks.

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Speaker 2: So fantastic stuff.

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Speaker 5: Clipper bros. You heard it here first, have a great time,

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Speaker 5: turn up, Love you guys. Awesome, Lee, you have the

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Speaker 5: quote here today. What do you got?

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Speaker 6: Some say horses in the hospital room are good say

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Speaker 6: yay I say.

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Speaker 5: You could stay.

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Speaker 1: Every day and that you happy every minute. It's been

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Speaker 1: so long that you're the one of waiting for It's

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Speaker 1: happened already.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be groovy.