1 00:00:15,356 --> 00:00:15,836 Speaker 1: Pushkin. 2 00:00:18,316 --> 00:00:20,996 Speaker 2: I have a distant memory of being in a car 3 00:00:21,396 --> 00:00:23,836 Speaker 2: riding that was by my first car trip. 4 00:00:24,876 --> 00:00:28,636 Speaker 1: Leon Lomax was just three years old when dressed in 5 00:00:28,676 --> 00:00:32,356 Speaker 1: a red English made suit and cap, he'd flown unaccompanied 6 00:00:32,476 --> 00:00:36,396 Speaker 1: across the Atlantic and arrived on US soil. He was 7 00:00:36,436 --> 00:00:40,316 Speaker 1: traveling light, caring nothing but a toy and his nightclothes, 8 00:00:40,756 --> 00:00:43,996 Speaker 1: and when he arrived he was something of a celebrity. 9 00:00:45,036 --> 00:00:47,916 Speaker 2: They said that I was more handsome than Joe Lewis, 10 00:00:48,316 --> 00:00:50,676 Speaker 2: and everybody looked up to Joe Lewis because he beat 11 00:00:50,756 --> 00:00:54,356 Speaker 2: Max Smelling, I think for the world championship in boxing. 12 00:00:55,156 --> 00:01:00,596 Speaker 1: Leon's arrival was big news. Brown baby adopted. The Pittsburgh Courier, 13 00:01:00,836 --> 00:01:04,876 Speaker 1: the foremost African American paper, jubulantly declared the. 14 00:01:04,756 --> 00:01:08,796 Speaker 2: White news press they weren't so excited about it, but 15 00:01:09,236 --> 00:01:13,276 Speaker 2: the black news media was excited because it had to 16 00:01:13,356 --> 00:01:14,716 Speaker 2: do with black soldiers. 17 00:01:15,396 --> 00:01:19,036 Speaker 1: The Courier coined the term brown babies to describe children 18 00:01:19,116 --> 00:01:22,516 Speaker 1: of mixed ethnic heritage who'd been born to African American 19 00:01:22,556 --> 00:01:26,876 Speaker 1: soldiers and white European women during and just after the 20 00:01:26,916 --> 00:01:30,676 Speaker 1: Second World War. It's estimated that there were two thousand 21 00:01:30,876 --> 00:01:35,036 Speaker 1: so called brown babies and Leon was reportedly the first 22 00:01:35,196 --> 00:01:38,996 Speaker 1: to be brought to live with an American couple. He 23 00:01:39,036 --> 00:01:41,756 Speaker 1: had spent some of his early years in a children's home, 24 00:01:42,116 --> 00:01:46,516 Speaker 1: which was all too common for children born into his circumstances. 25 00:01:46,916 --> 00:01:51,316 Speaker 1: But around nineteen forty eight, and after repeated attempts, Leon's 26 00:01:51,356 --> 00:01:54,196 Speaker 1: father was finally given the green light to bring his 27 00:01:54,316 --> 00:02:01,196 Speaker 1: son over to Ohio, Leon embarked on a new life. 28 00:02:01,276 --> 00:02:05,396 Speaker 1: A happy ending was not assured, however, and trouble was 29 00:02:05,516 --> 00:02:13,876 Speaker 1: already brewing. I'm halle Riubinhold you're listening to bad women 30 00:02:14,196 --> 00:02:18,396 Speaker 1: the blackout Ripper. We're used to the romantic tales of 31 00:02:18,556 --> 00:02:22,636 Speaker 1: dashing American soldiers who fell in love and married British girls, 32 00:02:22,956 --> 00:02:27,196 Speaker 1: the gi brides, But in this bonus episode, we'll focus 33 00:02:27,196 --> 00:02:30,276 Speaker 1: on the less well explored experience of women who fell 34 00:02:30,516 --> 00:02:35,916 Speaker 1: not for white but for black American soldiers, and how segregation, racism, 35 00:02:36,236 --> 00:03:11,796 Speaker 1: and prejudice blighted the lives of their children. In early 36 00:03:11,876 --> 00:03:15,316 Speaker 1: nineteen forty two, the first American troops arrived on the 37 00:03:15,316 --> 00:03:19,156 Speaker 1: shores of northern Ireland to join the fight against Nazi Germany. 38 00:03:19,716 --> 00:03:22,956 Speaker 1: Several thousand gis and a small number of nurses too. 39 00:03:23,956 --> 00:03:27,476 Speaker 1: According to Sir Archibald Sinclair, who greeted these soldiers on 40 00:03:27,516 --> 00:03:31,116 Speaker 1: behalf of the British government. Their arrival marked a new 41 00:03:31,196 --> 00:03:34,796 Speaker 1: stage in the World War and a gloomy portent for Hitler. 42 00:03:35,956 --> 00:03:39,556 Speaker 1: Around three million American servicemen would eventually pass through the 43 00:03:39,636 --> 00:03:42,716 Speaker 1: UK over the course of the war, and hundreds of 44 00:03:42,836 --> 00:03:47,236 Speaker 1: thousands of them were African American. Many of those African 45 00:03:47,236 --> 00:03:50,396 Speaker 1: American soldiers came from states in the South where they 46 00:03:50,436 --> 00:03:54,756 Speaker 1: were subject to statutes that legalized racial segregation, known as 47 00:03:54,836 --> 00:03:59,596 Speaker 1: the Jim Crow Laws, and that segregation followed these soldiers 48 00:03:59,636 --> 00:04:04,196 Speaker 1: into the army. Black troops were placed in separate barracks, 49 00:04:04,676 --> 00:04:07,236 Speaker 1: They ate away from white troops, and they had their 50 00:04:07,236 --> 00:04:11,436 Speaker 1: own blood banks that even on the operating table, the 51 00:04:11,596 --> 00:04:17,156 Speaker 1: races would not mix. The US Army imported this injustice 52 00:04:17,316 --> 00:04:17,996 Speaker 1: to the UK. 53 00:04:18,516 --> 00:04:22,516 Speaker 3: Black eyes aren't allowed to bear arms in Britain. They 54 00:04:22,676 --> 00:04:25,836 Speaker 3: do all the dirty work, really, they do the driving, 55 00:04:25,956 --> 00:04:27,596 Speaker 3: the cooking, the cleaning. 56 00:04:28,156 --> 00:04:31,236 Speaker 1: This is Lucy Bland, a professor of social and cultural 57 00:04:31,316 --> 00:04:34,956 Speaker 1: history at angli Uskan University and an expert on the 58 00:04:35,076 --> 00:04:37,596 Speaker 1: history of interracial relationships in Great Britain. 59 00:04:37,916 --> 00:04:40,276 Speaker 3: I think people are often drawn to things that relate 60 00:04:40,356 --> 00:04:43,676 Speaker 3: to their own lives. My father married a woman from 61 00:04:43,716 --> 00:04:46,476 Speaker 3: Guyana he left my mother, so they were in a 62 00:04:46,516 --> 00:04:50,596 Speaker 3: mixed relationship. Her daughter from her first husband is black. 63 00:04:50,716 --> 00:04:54,796 Speaker 3: I have an adopted daughter from Guatemala. So mixedness, both 64 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:59,076 Speaker 3: interracial relations and mixedness as an identity, are there in 65 00:04:59,076 --> 00:05:01,036 Speaker 3: my own family. So I was kind of interested in 66 00:05:01,076 --> 00:05:01,956 Speaker 3: that already. 67 00:05:02,676 --> 00:05:05,556 Speaker 1: Lucy found an interviewed the children of black Gis and 68 00:05:05,596 --> 00:05:09,836 Speaker 1: white British women for her book Britain's Brown Babies. For 69 00:05:09,916 --> 00:05:13,196 Speaker 1: many of them, people like Leon Lomax, it was the 70 00:05:13,196 --> 00:05:15,276 Speaker 1: first time they'd shared their stories. 71 00:05:15,556 --> 00:05:17,756 Speaker 3: What was so incredible is that many of them said, look, 72 00:05:17,796 --> 00:05:20,516 Speaker 3: I haven't told anybody this. It's so great to have 73 00:05:20,556 --> 00:05:22,796 Speaker 3: someone who's really interested in my story. 74 00:05:23,276 --> 00:05:27,676 Speaker 1: Lucy's research also showed just how rigorously the US Army 75 00:05:27,916 --> 00:05:33,156 Speaker 1: enforced Jim Crow style segregation, not only inside but outside 76 00:05:33,156 --> 00:05:34,316 Speaker 1: its bases in the UK. 77 00:05:34,836 --> 00:05:37,676 Speaker 3: So clearly they are doing different jobs and they live 78 00:05:37,716 --> 00:05:42,516 Speaker 3: in different barracks, but also areas of leisure like pubs 79 00:05:42,596 --> 00:05:47,756 Speaker 3: and dances. They segregate those and certain towns out of bands. 80 00:05:47,836 --> 00:05:52,356 Speaker 3: And the rationale is the tension over the black gis 81 00:05:52,436 --> 00:05:53,796 Speaker 3: having relations with white women. 82 00:05:54,236 --> 00:05:58,076 Speaker 1: Britain certainly had its own history of racism, but it 83 00:05:58,236 --> 00:06:01,796 Speaker 1: didn't have such official and overt policies of segregation. 84 00:06:02,436 --> 00:06:06,236 Speaker 3: The Brits are actually often quite appalled by this segregation. 85 00:06:06,476 --> 00:06:08,516 Speaker 3: Not that the British aren't racists, but they are quite 86 00:06:08,516 --> 00:06:12,196 Speaker 3: horrified by the avert racist attitudes in the way that 87 00:06:12,516 --> 00:06:14,036 Speaker 3: they are kept apart like that. 88 00:06:14,436 --> 00:06:18,516 Speaker 1: Still, no official stand was taken against segregation by the British, 89 00:06:18,836 --> 00:06:21,556 Speaker 1: and sometimes the need to maintain good relations with a 90 00:06:21,596 --> 00:06:25,316 Speaker 1: crucial ally meant that the policy was enforced de facto 91 00:06:25,436 --> 00:06:30,196 Speaker 1: by the British people. Royoty, a black American war correspondent, 92 00:06:30,556 --> 00:06:33,436 Speaker 1: noted that when the manager of a restaurant was questioned 93 00:06:33,436 --> 00:06:36,596 Speaker 1: about refusing service to a black soldier, he had a 94 00:06:36,636 --> 00:06:40,996 Speaker 1: ready answer. White Americans had warned him they would boycott 95 00:06:41,036 --> 00:06:44,956 Speaker 1: his place if people of color were served there. At 96 00:06:44,956 --> 00:06:48,476 Speaker 1: the same time, black troops were often received warmly by 97 00:06:48,516 --> 00:06:51,196 Speaker 1: the locals in towns and villages where they were posted. 98 00:06:51,996 --> 00:06:54,556 Speaker 3: And they ask, you know, about attitudes towards the Americans, 99 00:06:55,116 --> 00:06:58,836 Speaker 3: and they do say, you know, actually, those black Americans 100 00:06:58,876 --> 00:07:01,676 Speaker 3: are much nicer than the whites, who just sort of 101 00:07:02,196 --> 00:07:05,116 Speaker 3: go on at us about having pathetic little houses and 102 00:07:05,156 --> 00:07:07,916 Speaker 3: we don't have raiders, and we don't have proper cars, 103 00:07:07,956 --> 00:07:09,676 Speaker 3: and we don't have this and the other. 104 00:07:10,076 --> 00:07:13,596 Speaker 1: It would be wrong to oversimplify race relations. But on 105 00:07:13,636 --> 00:07:16,916 Speaker 1: the whole, British people said they found the black soldiers 106 00:07:17,076 --> 00:07:20,596 Speaker 1: to be kinder and more courteous than their white counterparts, 107 00:07:20,956 --> 00:07:26,316 Speaker 1: who seemed comparatively conceited and boastful. White British women in 108 00:07:26,356 --> 00:07:30,156 Speaker 1: particular embraced the black geys, and not just for their 109 00:07:30,156 --> 00:07:30,876 Speaker 1: good manners. 110 00:07:31,356 --> 00:07:33,676 Speaker 3: They knew the Lindy hop which came from Harlem, because 111 00:07:33,676 --> 00:07:35,676 Speaker 3: there were some who were coming from New York, and 112 00:07:35,956 --> 00:07:38,956 Speaker 3: they also brought their bands, and I think the women 113 00:07:39,556 --> 00:07:42,156 Speaker 3: really enjoyed this. So I think it's hard for us 114 00:07:42,196 --> 00:07:45,236 Speaker 3: to appreciate that in the forties the main leisure pursuit 115 00:07:45,476 --> 00:07:48,676 Speaker 3: for young women was dancing. It was cheap and something 116 00:07:48,676 --> 00:07:51,116 Speaker 3: they did on a regular basis young and married women. 117 00:07:51,436 --> 00:07:54,196 Speaker 3: So the black gys on the whole would dance much 118 00:07:54,236 --> 00:07:57,916 Speaker 3: better than the white gys. They knew the moves, so yeah, 119 00:07:57,956 --> 00:07:59,596 Speaker 3: I think that was part of the attraction. 120 00:08:00,316 --> 00:08:03,196 Speaker 1: Dances would be held for black geys on one evening 121 00:08:03,636 --> 00:08:07,196 Speaker 1: and then for white geyes on another, and they were 122 00:08:07,276 --> 00:08:09,676 Speaker 1: fertile ground for budding room ants. 123 00:08:10,196 --> 00:08:12,516 Speaker 3: So there are quite a lot of interracial relationships we know. 124 00:08:12,836 --> 00:08:16,396 Speaker 3: But some families were very hostile on local people hostile. 125 00:08:17,036 --> 00:08:20,916 Speaker 3: Some were more accepting of this. It really depended, but 126 00:08:20,996 --> 00:08:23,396 Speaker 3: I think generally there was this idea that you had 127 00:08:23,436 --> 00:08:25,796 Speaker 3: to draw the line and that you know, actually it 128 00:08:25,876 --> 00:08:30,116 Speaker 3: was all very well being friendly towards them, but you 129 00:08:30,636 --> 00:08:32,996 Speaker 3: don't necessarily want them to go a step further. And 130 00:08:33,036 --> 00:08:35,556 Speaker 3: the women had relationships and had babies with them, this 131 00:08:35,836 --> 00:08:37,556 Speaker 3: was thought to be beyond the pair. 132 00:08:38,476 --> 00:08:42,236 Speaker 1: For its part, the British government tried to discourage these 133 00:08:42,276 --> 00:08:46,876 Speaker 1: relationships too. It compiled suggestions for ways of keeping black 134 00:08:46,956 --> 00:08:50,396 Speaker 1: g eyes and white women apart, but then marked the 135 00:08:50,436 --> 00:08:54,676 Speaker 1: document top secret and stored it away under lock and key. 136 00:08:55,596 --> 00:08:58,516 Speaker 1: The British couldn't afford to be too closely aligned with 137 00:08:58,556 --> 00:09:03,076 Speaker 1: America's racial segregation for such a move, which surely enraged 138 00:09:03,116 --> 00:09:05,996 Speaker 1: the millions of people of color who were fighting alongside 139 00:09:06,076 --> 00:09:10,156 Speaker 1: them for victory. But in some cases Britain did use 140 00:09:10,196 --> 00:09:14,316 Speaker 1: emergency wartime laws to prosecute luckless young women found with 141 00:09:14,396 --> 00:09:29,756 Speaker 1: black gis on actual us basis. Nonetheless, relationships continued to form. 142 00:09:30,156 --> 00:09:33,516 Speaker 2: They probably met at a dance or you know, some 143 00:09:33,596 --> 00:09:37,916 Speaker 2: type of social event like most of the gis did 144 00:09:38,036 --> 00:09:40,756 Speaker 2: with you know, the women over in England at the time. 145 00:09:41,196 --> 00:09:45,196 Speaker 1: Leon Lomax was told little about his parents' courtship, and I. 146 00:09:45,156 --> 00:09:48,996 Speaker 2: Don't know how long they were together or what the 147 00:09:49,076 --> 00:09:52,876 Speaker 2: circumstances were, but he knew the family, and the family 148 00:09:52,916 --> 00:09:56,716 Speaker 2: knew him because they used to call him Maxie. My 149 00:09:56,836 --> 00:10:00,556 Speaker 2: last name is Lomax, so that's probably just was a 150 00:10:00,676 --> 00:10:04,236 Speaker 2: nickname of him. But they knew about him, and he 151 00:10:04,316 --> 00:10:07,156 Speaker 2: must have had some kind of interaction with the rest 152 00:10:07,156 --> 00:10:07,796 Speaker 2: of the family. 153 00:10:08,596 --> 00:10:12,996 Speaker 1: Leon's f Vava, Corporal Oscar Leon Lomax, or Leon Senor, 154 00:10:13,636 --> 00:10:16,396 Speaker 1: already had a wife and child back home in Ohio 155 00:10:16,636 --> 00:10:20,436 Speaker 1: when he met Leon's mother, Maude Leon was born in 156 00:10:20,476 --> 00:10:24,516 Speaker 1: December nineteen forty five, after Leon Senior had returned to 157 00:10:24,556 --> 00:10:29,676 Speaker 1: the United States. American servicemen had to get permission from 158 00:10:29,716 --> 00:10:34,396 Speaker 1: an invariably white commanding officer to marry their girlfriends. While 159 00:10:34,436 --> 00:10:38,556 Speaker 1: white eyes were often granted such approval, black soldiers were 160 00:10:38,636 --> 00:10:42,276 Speaker 1: generally denied it, and sometimes they weren't even given the 161 00:10:42,316 --> 00:10:45,436 Speaker 1: opportunity to say goodbye to their partners before they were 162 00:10:45,476 --> 00:10:50,996 Speaker 1: shipped out. Thirty US states also still had anti missigenation 163 00:10:51,196 --> 00:10:55,716 Speaker 1: laws that forbade into racial marriage, and so when they 164 00:10:55,716 --> 00:10:58,916 Speaker 1: departed Britain at the end of the war, the US 165 00:10:59,076 --> 00:11:02,676 Speaker 1: Army left a raft of bereft single mothers in its wake. 166 00:11:03,476 --> 00:11:07,636 Speaker 1: Financial and social pressures often meant that these women weren't 167 00:11:07,796 --> 00:11:10,916 Speaker 1: able to keep their baby. This was the case for 168 00:11:11,036 --> 00:11:15,276 Speaker 1: Leon Lomax's mother Maude, who ultimately had to surrender her 169 00:11:15,316 --> 00:11:17,316 Speaker 1: son to a children's home. 170 00:11:18,436 --> 00:11:20,876 Speaker 3: Young single women who might be living at home, they 171 00:11:20,916 --> 00:11:25,356 Speaker 3: will get pressure not only from their parents and their relatives, 172 00:11:25,796 --> 00:11:28,676 Speaker 3: but often from a local priest or the mother and 173 00:11:28,756 --> 00:11:30,956 Speaker 3: baby herne. They often sent mother and baby homes who 174 00:11:30,956 --> 00:11:33,236 Speaker 3: would try and get this child off them. 175 00:11:33,476 --> 00:11:35,996 Speaker 1: Many mothers tried to keep their babies for as long 176 00:11:36,036 --> 00:11:39,876 Speaker 1: as possible, but child care facilities could refuse to take 177 00:11:39,996 --> 00:11:44,276 Speaker 1: children of mixed ethnic background, and without childcare it was 178 00:11:44,356 --> 00:11:47,876 Speaker 1: virtually impossible to work and earn the necessary living to 179 00:11:47,956 --> 00:11:51,556 Speaker 1: support one's self in one's child. Very few of these 180 00:11:51,676 --> 00:11:56,396 Speaker 1: children were then adopted. Adoption societies assumed that no one 181 00:11:56,436 --> 00:11:59,236 Speaker 1: would want to take them, and even though there was 182 00:11:59,276 --> 00:12:02,916 Speaker 1: a long standing Black community in Britain, little effort was 183 00:12:02,956 --> 00:12:05,996 Speaker 1: made to find black couples or families who might be 184 00:12:06,036 --> 00:12:11,676 Speaker 1: interested in adoption. Either. Babies were bounced between foster families, 185 00:12:12,236 --> 00:12:16,716 Speaker 1: and like Leon, they ended up in children's institutions, some 186 00:12:16,796 --> 00:12:20,796 Speaker 1: of which categorize them as handicapped simply because of the 187 00:12:20,836 --> 00:12:25,836 Speaker 1: color of their skin. Unsurprisingly, such homes did little to 188 00:12:25,956 --> 00:12:28,836 Speaker 1: nurture the happiness and wellbeing of these children. 189 00:12:29,636 --> 00:12:32,116 Speaker 3: You don't have a sense of being loved, you don't 190 00:12:32,156 --> 00:12:34,436 Speaker 3: know what a family is, you don't experience that. And 191 00:12:34,476 --> 00:12:37,516 Speaker 3: then they just get thrown out effectively, and they don't 192 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:40,156 Speaker 3: know how to live in the world. They get no 193 00:12:40,236 --> 00:12:43,196 Speaker 3: preparation for that. Some of them become homeless, some go 194 00:12:43,276 --> 00:12:45,996 Speaker 3: to prison. Those homes were pretty awful. I mean all 195 00:12:45,996 --> 00:12:48,116 Speaker 3: the kids there were just hit all the time in 196 00:12:48,156 --> 00:12:53,316 Speaker 3: the face and completely uncalled for behavior by quite sadistic people. 197 00:12:53,396 --> 00:12:56,076 Speaker 3: Because I think actually some of these homes attracted people 198 00:12:56,156 --> 00:12:59,556 Speaker 3: who probably had no skills, no training, wasn't very well paid, 199 00:13:00,276 --> 00:13:03,636 Speaker 3: and they had power to do what they liked. Some 200 00:13:03,716 --> 00:13:05,316 Speaker 3: of the stories are horrendous. 201 00:13:06,436 --> 00:13:10,276 Speaker 1: Over in the US, Leon I had confessed to his 202 00:13:10,356 --> 00:13:13,956 Speaker 1: wife Betty that he had a child in England. She 203 00:13:14,156 --> 00:13:16,956 Speaker 1: told the Pittsburgh Courier about that conversation. 204 00:13:17,516 --> 00:13:22,556 Speaker 4: He said, I've been gone a long time, about three years. 205 00:13:23,316 --> 00:13:25,556 Speaker 4: That's a long time for a fellow to be away 206 00:13:25,556 --> 00:13:28,596 Speaker 4: from his wife. In the meantime, I met a girl. 207 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:33,356 Speaker 4: I was very lonesome. So what I'm trying. 208 00:13:33,076 --> 00:13:36,436 Speaker 1: To say is that there's to be a child. 209 00:13:37,556 --> 00:13:40,836 Speaker 4: Betty. You don't have to answer right now, but would 210 00:13:40,876 --> 00:13:42,556 Speaker 4: you agree to take this child? 211 00:13:43,356 --> 00:13:47,916 Speaker 1: Betty grappled with this dilemma. Inside her, A private war 212 00:13:48,116 --> 00:13:48,916 Speaker 1: was being weighed. 213 00:13:48,956 --> 00:13:53,396 Speaker 4: She said, My job and friends kept me busy all day. 214 00:13:54,196 --> 00:13:59,076 Speaker 4: But at night, whenever I was alone, I did a 215 00:13:59,316 --> 00:14:03,396 Speaker 4: lot of thinking. I knew that a divorce was out 216 00:14:03,396 --> 00:14:07,476 Speaker 4: of the question. Besides, there was the other son to 217 00:14:07,596 --> 00:14:12,076 Speaker 4: think about. If I ever felt any resentment. 218 00:14:12,276 --> 00:14:17,276 Speaker 1: My husband never knew. Eventually, in early nineteen forty six, 219 00:14:17,836 --> 00:14:22,476 Speaker 1: Betty told her husband she would welcome the child. His honesty, 220 00:14:22,596 --> 00:14:24,356 Speaker 1: she said, had impressed her. 221 00:14:25,236 --> 00:14:29,316 Speaker 4: He was surprised, but it made him happy. We wrote 222 00:14:29,356 --> 00:14:32,716 Speaker 4: to the British Embassy, the American Red Cross, the American 223 00:14:32,796 --> 00:14:38,436 Speaker 4: State Department, with no results. Then we thought up another 224 00:14:38,516 --> 00:14:43,436 Speaker 4: idea bad women will be back after this shortbreak. 225 00:14:59,396 --> 00:15:02,876 Speaker 2: They started the search for me because I guess they 226 00:15:02,956 --> 00:15:06,316 Speaker 2: lost contact with my mother in England and so they 227 00:15:06,356 --> 00:15:10,756 Speaker 2: didn't really know where I was, Omar was in or anything. 228 00:15:10,876 --> 00:15:15,116 Speaker 2: So they happened to see something. I don't know where. 229 00:15:15,156 --> 00:15:18,396 Speaker 2: They saw this in a newspaper or magazine or something. 230 00:15:18,556 --> 00:15:21,636 Speaker 2: There was a doctor went Gate in Sussex. I believe 231 00:15:21,956 --> 00:15:26,036 Speaker 2: that asked the question, why didn't the US soldiers there 232 00:15:26,236 --> 00:15:29,476 Speaker 2: the black soldiers come and get their children. So they 233 00:15:29,476 --> 00:15:32,756 Speaker 2: got a hold of him and he helped locate where 234 00:15:32,756 --> 00:15:36,356 Speaker 2: I was. So that's where the process started of getting 235 00:15:36,356 --> 00:15:37,236 Speaker 2: me to America. 236 00:15:37,876 --> 00:15:41,676 Speaker 1: That process took three years and cost the equivalent of 237 00:15:41,836 --> 00:15:45,996 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars, but at last, Leon Jr. Was on 238 00:15:46,116 --> 00:15:49,436 Speaker 1: his way to the United States. When his new parents 239 00:15:49,556 --> 00:15:53,516 Speaker 1: arrived at LaGuardia Airport, they found him playing with staff 240 00:15:53,556 --> 00:15:54,916 Speaker 1: in the immigration office. 241 00:15:55,796 --> 00:15:59,916 Speaker 4: I thought he was the most adorable little boy. 242 00:16:00,156 --> 00:16:04,156 Speaker 1: Said Betty. It was New Year's Day and hopes were 243 00:16:04,276 --> 00:16:07,556 Speaker 1: high that a happy new chapter was beginning in Leon's life. 244 00:16:08,036 --> 00:16:12,036 Speaker 1: The Lomaxes appear to be the perfect family, bringing with 245 00:16:12,156 --> 00:16:15,036 Speaker 1: love and doting on the new edition to their fond 246 00:16:16,036 --> 00:16:20,876 Speaker 1: but behind closed doors, the cracks quickly began to appear. 247 00:16:25,836 --> 00:16:29,756 Speaker 5: My case was unusual because Mum decided that she would 248 00:16:29,756 --> 00:16:32,636 Speaker 5: not give us away. She decided to keep us. 249 00:16:32,796 --> 00:16:34,716 Speaker 1: This is Terry Harrison. 250 00:16:34,756 --> 00:16:38,116 Speaker 5: And here was an issue because at that time my 251 00:16:38,236 --> 00:16:42,356 Speaker 5: stepfather announced her real husband was still away fighting. Of course, 252 00:16:42,396 --> 00:16:45,956 Speaker 5: when he returned, he can imagine the bombshell which she 253 00:16:46,036 --> 00:16:46,876 Speaker 5: was only natural. 254 00:16:47,516 --> 00:16:51,276 Speaker 1: Likely On Terry and his twin sister, Susan were born 255 00:16:51,316 --> 00:16:54,356 Speaker 1: to a white British mother and a black gi father, 256 00:16:55,276 --> 00:16:59,356 Speaker 1: but unlikely on the pair stayed with their mother. She 257 00:16:59,836 --> 00:17:04,716 Speaker 1: was already married, but her husband, Charlie, was somewhat surprised 258 00:17:04,756 --> 00:17:08,156 Speaker 1: by the arrival of two new children while he was 259 00:17:08,196 --> 00:17:12,916 Speaker 1: away at war. Eventually, Charlie moved out of the family home. 260 00:17:13,476 --> 00:17:17,036 Speaker 1: He'd visit his own children every day, but Terry and 261 00:17:17,076 --> 00:17:21,436 Speaker 1: Susan were a constant and unwelcome reminder of his wife's infidelity, 262 00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:24,996 Speaker 1: so he kept them at arm's length because. 263 00:17:24,716 --> 00:17:28,476 Speaker 5: He found it very difficult to accept, and as a result, 264 00:17:28,916 --> 00:17:31,116 Speaker 5: my sister and I relationship with him was not as 265 00:17:31,196 --> 00:17:34,476 Speaker 5: it should be. But it wasn't atful or bitter. It 266 00:17:34,596 --> 00:17:38,916 Speaker 5: was just a lack of love and caring and warmth. 267 00:17:39,396 --> 00:17:41,396 Speaker 5: He came in the house and what have you, but 268 00:17:41,956 --> 00:17:45,276 Speaker 5: it was as though we weren't there. We were the ghosts, 269 00:17:45,276 --> 00:17:46,356 Speaker 5: but you didn't see us there. 270 00:17:47,756 --> 00:17:51,156 Speaker 1: Terry, Susan and their mother, Edna, lived in the pleasant 271 00:17:51,156 --> 00:17:55,076 Speaker 1: country village of Gadsby, but life for them was far 272 00:17:55,116 --> 00:17:59,356 Speaker 1: from picture perfect. Charlie wasn't the only person to shun them. 273 00:18:00,036 --> 00:18:05,156 Speaker 5: Many of my mum's peers would often ridly cull her 274 00:18:05,396 --> 00:18:10,076 Speaker 5: for having brown babies. Mum did suffer and that affected 275 00:18:10,116 --> 00:18:13,276 Speaker 5: me in some respects because I always stuck it from Mum. 276 00:18:13,836 --> 00:18:16,716 Speaker 1: When Terry and his mother walked down the street, the 277 00:18:16,836 --> 00:18:21,996 Speaker 1: villagers shouted racist slurs and menacingly banged on trash can lids. 278 00:18:22,676 --> 00:18:26,876 Speaker 1: Some crossed the street to avoid the boy. Close relatives 279 00:18:26,916 --> 00:18:31,076 Speaker 1: were cruel too. Terry's aunts and uncles treated the young 280 00:18:31,116 --> 00:18:36,036 Speaker 1: twins with utter disdain and constantly reproached Edna for bringing 281 00:18:36,036 --> 00:18:37,436 Speaker 1: the children into the family. 282 00:18:37,996 --> 00:18:40,996 Speaker 5: There was a lot of redeentment and anger towards Mum. 283 00:18:41,796 --> 00:18:46,036 Speaker 5: She came through that, but she cared about Susan and 284 00:18:46,076 --> 00:18:49,636 Speaker 5: I of the way we would react because as we 285 00:18:49,756 --> 00:18:52,636 Speaker 5: got a little older, we began to realize that we 286 00:18:52,636 --> 00:18:56,396 Speaker 5: were different only by a skin color. Because basically being 287 00:18:56,476 --> 00:18:59,996 Speaker 5: brought up in a white family, it became difficult, certainly 288 00:19:00,476 --> 00:19:04,556 Speaker 5: for me to understand why people were calling me different names, 289 00:19:04,596 --> 00:19:08,076 Speaker 5: which I didn't really understand. And they used to sort 290 00:19:08,076 --> 00:19:10,876 Speaker 5: of do dances of going back to Africa. But we 291 00:19:10,876 --> 00:19:13,956 Speaker 5: didn't understand. We didn't know, but we knew by the tone. 292 00:19:13,996 --> 00:19:15,356 Speaker 5: It wasn't a very nice thing. 293 00:19:15,956 --> 00:19:19,756 Speaker 1: Feeling white but constantly reminded of the color of his skin. 294 00:19:20,476 --> 00:19:24,876 Speaker 1: Terry struggled with his identity and felt a profound sense 295 00:19:24,956 --> 00:19:26,916 Speaker 1: of dislocation when we. 296 00:19:26,876 --> 00:19:30,316 Speaker 5: Went to school. Even I remember some of the school teachers, 297 00:19:30,476 --> 00:19:33,916 Speaker 5: and there were white school teachers. I remember sometimes they 298 00:19:33,996 --> 00:19:38,796 Speaker 5: used to talk about Africa and painting faces and doing dances. 299 00:19:38,836 --> 00:19:42,156 Speaker 5: I remember once they wanted to see an African dance 300 00:19:42,196 --> 00:19:44,476 Speaker 5: and the teacher pointed to me for some reason and 301 00:19:44,516 --> 00:19:46,036 Speaker 5: could you dance in Africa? I didn't know what an 302 00:19:46,036 --> 00:19:49,716 Speaker 5: African dance were like, but nevertheless I did it what 303 00:19:49,796 --> 00:19:53,516 Speaker 5: I thought it was. But they're the thing that I remember. 304 00:19:53,796 --> 00:19:55,076 Speaker 6: What why? 305 00:19:55,276 --> 00:19:55,516 Speaker 7: Why? 306 00:19:55,556 --> 00:19:55,636 Speaker 8: Me? 307 00:19:56,236 --> 00:19:59,676 Speaker 1: But Edna's love remained strong and it was a source 308 00:19:59,716 --> 00:20:01,716 Speaker 1: of comfort amid the hostility. 309 00:20:02,276 --> 00:20:05,316 Speaker 5: My mother never saw color even when we used to 310 00:20:05,476 --> 00:20:08,356 Speaker 5: or say Terry and to my Susan, and I love 311 00:20:08,396 --> 00:20:11,356 Speaker 5: you so much, and that was all I wanted, as 312 00:20:11,396 --> 00:20:13,236 Speaker 5: we all do want that bit of love and caring, 313 00:20:13,596 --> 00:20:15,716 Speaker 5: and so I had a great respect for them. And 314 00:20:15,996 --> 00:20:18,116 Speaker 5: she stood her a ground, a very strong lady. 315 00:20:18,636 --> 00:20:22,716 Speaker 1: All the same, Terry felt that something was missing, that 316 00:20:22,796 --> 00:20:25,636 Speaker 1: there was a part of himself he needed to examine 317 00:20:26,116 --> 00:20:26,916 Speaker 1: and explore. 318 00:20:27,676 --> 00:20:30,436 Speaker 5: I wanted to know who was my father, and she 319 00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:33,236 Speaker 5: mentioned that he was a black American black and gi 320 00:20:33,836 --> 00:20:36,316 Speaker 5: But I had no role model. I didn't have a dad, 321 00:20:36,676 --> 00:20:38,956 Speaker 5: And at that stage in my life I began to 322 00:20:39,836 --> 00:20:43,676 Speaker 5: look at black role models of famous people like Winn 323 00:20:43,796 --> 00:20:47,196 Speaker 5: for that well, the great singers and the great sportsman 324 00:20:47,636 --> 00:20:50,116 Speaker 5: jesse Orians. Because they were black and their sort, I 325 00:20:50,156 --> 00:20:55,196 Speaker 5: had some common denominator. I began to feel some kind 326 00:20:55,236 --> 00:20:58,236 Speaker 5: of empathy with them, and all of most of them 327 00:20:58,356 --> 00:21:02,916 Speaker 5: were from the United States, so secretly I used to think, good, oh, 328 00:21:02,916 --> 00:21:05,996 Speaker 5: the United States, because them days you never had any 329 00:21:06,036 --> 00:21:08,396 Speaker 5: black figures in books. They was all white. 330 00:21:09,236 --> 00:21:12,356 Speaker 1: Excelled at sports, and when he left school he joined 331 00:21:12,396 --> 00:21:15,836 Speaker 1: the Royal Marines, married and had a family of his own. 332 00:21:16,756 --> 00:21:20,156 Speaker 1: Still there was always that nagging question in the back 333 00:21:20,196 --> 00:21:24,796 Speaker 1: of his mind, that sense of something missing. Who was 334 00:21:24,876 --> 00:21:30,396 Speaker 1: his real father. When Edna passed away in nineteen sixty five, 335 00:21:30,996 --> 00:21:35,076 Speaker 1: Terry got closer to ann answer. Cleaning out one of 336 00:21:35,076 --> 00:21:39,356 Speaker 1: her old drawers, he came across a photograph, a picture 337 00:21:39,596 --> 00:21:45,076 Speaker 1: of a gravestone bearing the name John Lars Hendrix. Why 338 00:21:45,116 --> 00:21:48,596 Speaker 1: had she held on to this old snapshot? Could Hendrix 339 00:21:48,716 --> 00:21:57,876 Speaker 1: possibly be his father? According to the Pittsburgh Courier, Leon 340 00:21:57,996 --> 00:22:02,516 Speaker 1: Lomax's arrival in the United States represented the pinnacle of 341 00:22:02,916 --> 00:22:06,236 Speaker 1: a woman's sincere love for her XGI husband. 342 00:22:06,836 --> 00:22:11,476 Speaker 6: It's a story of patients and devotion, a story that 343 00:22:11,596 --> 00:22:15,036 Speaker 6: is climaxed by a happy ending, even though it had 344 00:22:15,076 --> 00:22:19,916 Speaker 6: a surprise beginning back in the middle of nineteen forty five. 345 00:22:20,836 --> 00:22:24,676 Speaker 1: But the story was far from over, and for Leon, 346 00:22:25,076 --> 00:22:28,556 Speaker 1: settling into life in Fremont, Ohio was tough. 347 00:22:29,076 --> 00:22:31,556 Speaker 2: I don't know how soon I developed asthma after I 348 00:22:31,596 --> 00:22:33,756 Speaker 2: got to the United States, but at one point I 349 00:22:33,796 --> 00:22:36,596 Speaker 2: thought I was going to die because I couldn't breathe. 350 00:22:37,076 --> 00:22:40,796 Speaker 2: I missed my whole first year of school because of asthma. 351 00:22:41,436 --> 00:22:43,596 Speaker 2: I think that was just due to stress. 352 00:22:44,516 --> 00:22:48,556 Speaker 1: Despite his efforts to bring about the adoption, Leon's father 353 00:22:48,996 --> 00:22:53,476 Speaker 1: was often cold and distant with the boy. His stepmother, 354 00:22:53,796 --> 00:22:57,436 Speaker 1: who struggled with Leon's presence in the family home, could 355 00:22:57,516 --> 00:22:59,276 Speaker 1: also be cruel. 356 00:22:59,476 --> 00:23:01,836 Speaker 2: I think she was fine with it at first, but 357 00:23:02,316 --> 00:23:07,076 Speaker 2: my father was always a philander, and he always had 358 00:23:07,436 --> 00:23:11,956 Speaker 2: other women of the day she died, basically, and he 359 00:23:12,116 --> 00:23:14,716 Speaker 2: wasn't around a lot, but she was the one that 360 00:23:14,876 --> 00:23:18,756 Speaker 2: was around me most of the time. So I noticed 361 00:23:18,756 --> 00:23:21,836 Speaker 2: a change when I was probably in about the third 362 00:23:22,276 --> 00:23:25,516 Speaker 2: grade or second grade. I noticed a change in her 363 00:23:26,116 --> 00:23:28,876 Speaker 2: that she seemed like she was a little bit more 364 00:23:29,116 --> 00:23:32,356 Speaker 2: strict with me. One aunt told me that she was 365 00:23:32,796 --> 00:23:35,956 Speaker 2: kind of taken out on me what she felt about 366 00:23:35,956 --> 00:23:39,276 Speaker 2: my father, And I think she felt resentful that, you know, 367 00:23:39,396 --> 00:23:43,436 Speaker 2: she had sacrificed so much to be my stepmother and 368 00:23:43,476 --> 00:23:47,196 Speaker 2: then he still was doing what he was doing. That's 369 00:23:47,236 --> 00:23:50,596 Speaker 2: why I think she got sometimes physically hard. I was 370 00:23:50,636 --> 00:23:54,276 Speaker 2: really angry as a child. I remember cutting my finger 371 00:23:54,396 --> 00:23:57,236 Speaker 2: one time when she told me to go wash the dishes, 372 00:23:57,276 --> 00:23:59,196 Speaker 2: and I grabbed a knife and I stuck it into 373 00:23:59,396 --> 00:24:01,436 Speaker 2: front of the sink and the knife just slipped up 374 00:24:01,436 --> 00:24:03,476 Speaker 2: my hand. I was seven years old at the time, 375 00:24:03,516 --> 00:24:06,036 Speaker 2: so I had a lot of anger inside of me 376 00:24:06,156 --> 00:24:08,836 Speaker 2: about just a lot of things. I think. 377 00:24:12,556 --> 00:24:21,676 Speaker 1: Bad women will be back in just a moment. Leon's 378 00:24:21,716 --> 00:24:24,796 Speaker 1: stepmother passed away when he was just eight years old, 379 00:24:25,316 --> 00:24:28,676 Speaker 1: and he was shunted between relatives, living with his aunts. 380 00:24:28,756 --> 00:24:29,636 Speaker 1: And his grandmother. 381 00:24:30,316 --> 00:24:32,796 Speaker 2: I had so much movement in my life. You know. 382 00:24:32,876 --> 00:24:36,516 Speaker 2: I started out being abandoned by my mother, and then 383 00:24:36,596 --> 00:24:39,636 Speaker 2: when I got to the United States, my stepmother died 384 00:24:39,676 --> 00:24:41,756 Speaker 2: when I was eight years old. So I only lived 385 00:24:41,756 --> 00:24:44,796 Speaker 2: with my father and my stepmother for five years after 386 00:24:44,836 --> 00:24:48,436 Speaker 2: I got here. And then my father left right after 387 00:24:48,516 --> 00:24:51,956 Speaker 2: she died, so he abandoned me and left me with 388 00:24:52,036 --> 00:24:55,156 Speaker 2: my relatives to be raised. So I was going through 389 00:24:55,156 --> 00:24:58,356 Speaker 2: a process of a lot of change when I was younger. 390 00:24:58,596 --> 00:25:00,916 Speaker 2: I think I was kind of a reticent of a 391 00:25:00,956 --> 00:25:03,236 Speaker 2: lot of things and a lot of people. They said 392 00:25:03,276 --> 00:25:06,556 Speaker 2: that I was reserved or shy or whatever, and I 393 00:25:06,636 --> 00:25:09,916 Speaker 2: just didn't gravitate to a lot of people. Well, some 394 00:25:09,956 --> 00:25:12,836 Speaker 2: of my cousins that always tease me and you know, 395 00:25:13,436 --> 00:25:15,716 Speaker 2: would just make fun of me. And I had a 396 00:25:15,796 --> 00:25:18,556 Speaker 2: cousin of mine said that I was a mixed up mess. 397 00:25:19,156 --> 00:25:23,476 Speaker 1: In spite of his cousin's jibes, his stepmother's coldness, his 398 00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:29,516 Speaker 1: father's absence, and instability of constant upheaval, Leon is glad 399 00:25:29,716 --> 00:25:31,876 Speaker 1: that his father brought him to the United States. 400 00:25:32,276 --> 00:25:34,516 Speaker 2: Bringing me over to America, he gave me a sense 401 00:25:34,556 --> 00:25:38,036 Speaker 2: of family, whereas I might not have had that since 402 00:25:38,076 --> 00:25:40,636 Speaker 2: over in England, I might have been in a children's 403 00:25:40,636 --> 00:25:44,436 Speaker 2: home for a long time, or foster care or foster 404 00:25:44,596 --> 00:25:47,356 Speaker 2: parents or whatever, you know, throughout my life, so it 405 00:25:47,356 --> 00:25:49,876 Speaker 2: would have been a lot different. So that's one thing 406 00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:52,996 Speaker 2: I'm grateful to my father and my family here in 407 00:25:53,036 --> 00:25:54,076 Speaker 2: America for. 408 00:25:54,436 --> 00:25:58,476 Speaker 1: But as with Terry, there was always something missing for Leon. 409 00:25:59,196 --> 00:26:02,796 Speaker 1: He never knew his mother, never understood why she gave 410 00:26:02,876 --> 00:26:06,756 Speaker 1: him up to a children's home to strangers. 411 00:26:07,076 --> 00:26:09,636 Speaker 2: And I always wondered why she didn't try to find me. 412 00:26:09,996 --> 00:26:13,036 Speaker 2: Then as I got old her, i'd start raising my 413 00:26:13,076 --> 00:26:16,116 Speaker 2: own family, and I just kind of put her, that 414 00:26:16,236 --> 00:26:20,156 Speaker 2: thought of her to the side until I finished raising 415 00:26:20,196 --> 00:26:24,436 Speaker 2: my family and I got almost fifty plus years old, 416 00:26:24,436 --> 00:26:27,236 Speaker 2: and I decided to find you out who she was. 417 00:26:27,996 --> 00:26:32,356 Speaker 1: And then after his father's death, Leon found a letter 418 00:26:32,756 --> 00:26:34,276 Speaker 1: among his belongings. 419 00:26:34,796 --> 00:26:37,676 Speaker 2: My mother was writing this letter to my dad stating 420 00:26:37,756 --> 00:26:41,796 Speaker 2: that he had promised to financially support her with my 421 00:26:41,916 --> 00:26:45,796 Speaker 2: birth and he didn't keep his promise. So she was 422 00:26:45,836 --> 00:26:49,316 Speaker 2: struggling to keep me because she couldn't afford me. She 423 00:26:49,436 --> 00:26:53,036 Speaker 2: was living with her her mother. She says, I can't 424 00:26:53,156 --> 00:26:57,836 Speaker 2: keep myself and Leon me on that amount. She was 425 00:26:57,916 --> 00:27:01,796 Speaker 2: talking about some money that I guess he has already sentner. 426 00:27:02,276 --> 00:27:04,836 Speaker 2: She said, I paid my mother what I owed her 427 00:27:05,316 --> 00:27:08,836 Speaker 2: out of it, so there wasn't a lot left. You 428 00:27:08,876 --> 00:27:12,316 Speaker 2: are as wrong as hell, she says, to think I 429 00:27:12,396 --> 00:27:15,876 Speaker 2: want to get rid of him. I'm his mother and 430 00:27:15,956 --> 00:27:19,596 Speaker 2: I love him very much, and I can't keep him. 431 00:27:20,236 --> 00:27:23,956 Speaker 2: So there's a part in here where it says that 432 00:27:24,556 --> 00:27:27,516 Speaker 2: she was changing my diaper or something, and I looked 433 00:27:27,596 --> 00:27:29,516 Speaker 2: up at her and I smiled at her for the 434 00:27:29,556 --> 00:27:32,436 Speaker 2: first time. It just kind of broke her heart that, 435 00:27:32,636 --> 00:27:34,276 Speaker 2: you know, she had to give me up. 436 00:27:34,996 --> 00:27:39,276 Speaker 1: This was a turning point for Leon. Understanding more about 437 00:27:39,276 --> 00:27:43,316 Speaker 1: his mother and her struggles had a profound effect on him. 438 00:27:43,676 --> 00:27:48,316 Speaker 2: This letter was so uplifting to my spirit and helped 439 00:27:48,316 --> 00:27:54,436 Speaker 2: me define more about my mother and myself and everything 440 00:27:54,476 --> 00:27:56,836 Speaker 2: in my life. I just wanted to talk to her, 441 00:27:57,476 --> 00:27:59,156 Speaker 2: and I just wanted to find out what she was 442 00:27:59,196 --> 00:27:59,756 Speaker 2: going through. 443 00:28:00,676 --> 00:28:04,716 Speaker 1: Leon also discovered that he had a half sister, Pauline. 444 00:28:05,236 --> 00:28:07,116 Speaker 1: When he spoke to her on the phone for the 445 00:28:07,196 --> 00:28:11,996 Speaker 1: first time, she was flawed. She had no idea that 446 00:28:12,076 --> 00:28:16,356 Speaker 1: Leon was even out there. Pauline and Leon have since 447 00:28:16,396 --> 00:28:20,076 Speaker 1: grown close, going to visit their mother's grave together and 448 00:28:20,156 --> 00:28:26,676 Speaker 1: talking about the woman Leon never knew. Stumbling upon that 449 00:28:26,796 --> 00:28:29,996 Speaker 1: photo of a gravestone, the one bearing the name John 450 00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:34,396 Speaker 1: Lars Hendrix, Terry Harrison knew he had to determine once 451 00:28:34,516 --> 00:28:37,036 Speaker 1: and for all if he was connected to this man. 452 00:28:37,836 --> 00:28:42,196 Speaker 5: I went and wrote to the American War Graves Commission 453 00:28:42,636 --> 00:28:46,716 Speaker 5: to see if this man was related to me. And 454 00:28:46,756 --> 00:28:53,276 Speaker 5: forgive me if I get emotional. Amazing one of the 455 00:28:53,276 --> 00:28:56,476 Speaker 5: things that happened that this man was named Hendrix. When 456 00:28:56,476 --> 00:28:59,116 Speaker 5: I worked for American War Graves Commission, I got back 457 00:28:59,516 --> 00:29:02,956 Speaker 5: a big envelope full of papers which has been burnt 458 00:29:02,956 --> 00:29:04,516 Speaker 5: around the ages is that it had been pulled out 459 00:29:04,516 --> 00:29:08,156 Speaker 5: of fire and what it was the American Wargraves Center 460 00:29:08,156 --> 00:29:10,876 Speaker 5: had been burnt down and then managed to retrieve this 461 00:29:11,196 --> 00:29:14,356 Speaker 5: particular package. And in the package it was the way 462 00:29:14,476 --> 00:29:17,636 Speaker 5: this man was died. And he died in a place 463 00:29:17,676 --> 00:29:20,996 Speaker 5: called Butte Street in Wales, and he was shot by 464 00:29:21,196 --> 00:29:24,636 Speaker 5: a white American policeman. But what was interesting within the 465 00:29:24,756 --> 00:29:29,076 Speaker 5: parcel there was a letter of my mom's handwriting, and 466 00:29:29,116 --> 00:29:31,716 Speaker 5: it was to the general conducting the court martial of 467 00:29:31,756 --> 00:29:34,196 Speaker 5: the shooting, and it said, did you know that John 468 00:29:34,276 --> 00:29:38,636 Speaker 5: Lynsandrix is the father of my two children. So that 469 00:29:39,156 --> 00:29:42,956 Speaker 5: when I realized that this man must have been my father, 470 00:29:43,516 --> 00:29:44,876 Speaker 5: and that was a great for me because it was 471 00:29:44,916 --> 00:29:47,396 Speaker 5: a closure. And from then on I went straight away 472 00:29:47,436 --> 00:29:49,756 Speaker 5: to where he was buried, and that was quite emotional day, 473 00:29:50,036 --> 00:29:52,076 Speaker 5: and it was at some kind of closure. 474 00:29:52,636 --> 00:29:54,556 Speaker 1: But life is seldom so simple. 475 00:29:55,116 --> 00:29:57,556 Speaker 5: Every year I went down to see his grave. And 476 00:29:57,636 --> 00:30:01,396 Speaker 5: it wasn't until a few years ago that I had 477 00:30:01,436 --> 00:30:03,476 Speaker 5: an inquiry to do a DNA. 478 00:30:03,236 --> 00:30:07,756 Speaker 1: Test to Terry's shop. There was no correlation between his 479 00:30:07,956 --> 00:30:14,036 Speaker 1: DNA and the of John Lars Hendrix. He wasn't Terry's father. 480 00:30:14,556 --> 00:30:20,396 Speaker 5: I felt. I felt absolutely deflated and emotional. 481 00:30:20,876 --> 00:30:24,236 Speaker 1: But it did point to another match, and it went. 482 00:30:24,116 --> 00:30:28,036 Speaker 5: To a person called vander Lee Ellis, and that was 483 00:30:28,076 --> 00:30:31,076 Speaker 5: my father. He died in nineteen eighty five, so if 484 00:30:31,116 --> 00:30:33,836 Speaker 5: I'd have known that, I perhaps could have met him. 485 00:30:34,196 --> 00:30:37,036 Speaker 5: But what was interesting I also found that he had 486 00:30:37,156 --> 00:30:41,716 Speaker 5: several children, and thankfully, in a few weeks time, I'm 487 00:30:41,716 --> 00:30:46,356 Speaker 5: going to meet two sisters in New Jersey and South Carolina. 488 00:30:46,396 --> 00:30:47,916 Speaker 5: And that to me is amazing. 489 00:30:48,876 --> 00:30:53,156 Speaker 1: So in June twenty twenty two, Terry packed his bags, 490 00:30:53,556 --> 00:30:56,876 Speaker 1: boarded a plane and crossed the Atlantic to meet his 491 00:30:57,036 --> 00:31:01,316 Speaker 1: half sisters for the very first time. He sent us 492 00:31:01,316 --> 00:31:03,436 Speaker 1: a voice note afterwards. 493 00:31:03,716 --> 00:31:06,716 Speaker 5: It was just an amazing, amazing feeling. 494 00:31:07,276 --> 00:31:10,716 Speaker 7: I couldn't wait to get inside the greet my sister, 495 00:31:11,076 --> 00:31:14,436 Speaker 7: and it's something I don't think anyone can explain. I've 496 00:31:14,436 --> 00:31:18,636 Speaker 7: waited so long, after seventy eight years, using my sister 497 00:31:18,716 --> 00:31:22,436 Speaker 7: for the first time, and that was duplicated when I'm 498 00:31:22,436 --> 00:31:23,396 Speaker 7: out the second sister. 499 00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:27,436 Speaker 8: I think one of the most amazing moments was when 500 00:31:27,476 --> 00:31:31,236 Speaker 8: I went to see my father's grave, even now just 501 00:31:31,436 --> 00:31:34,996 Speaker 8: thinking about it and standing there, and it was such 502 00:31:35,036 --> 00:31:38,356 Speaker 8: an emotional moment, not only me, but to have my 503 00:31:38,396 --> 00:31:42,876 Speaker 8: two sisters alongside me. It was a very, very wonderful 504 00:31:42,876 --> 00:31:45,716 Speaker 8: event and one that I shall never forget. 505 00:31:47,956 --> 00:31:51,396 Speaker 1: The story of the so called Brown Babies is yet 506 00:31:51,436 --> 00:31:55,116 Speaker 1: another grim chapter in the history of the Second World War. 507 00:31:55,756 --> 00:32:00,396 Speaker 1: The cruelty and inhumanity of the segregation forced on black giyes, 508 00:32:01,156 --> 00:32:04,076 Speaker 1: the hostility shown to the British women who fell in 509 00:32:04,076 --> 00:32:07,516 Speaker 1: love with them, and then the vileness of the treatment 510 00:32:07,836 --> 00:32:12,876 Speaker 1: meted out their innocence and bewildered offspring. For Terry Harrison, 511 00:32:13,236 --> 00:32:17,796 Speaker 1: whose upbringing was so marred by hatred and prejudice. One 512 00:32:17,876 --> 00:32:19,356 Speaker 1: lesson stands out from all. 513 00:32:20,356 --> 00:32:23,076 Speaker 5: The most important thing is being good to others. 514 00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:24,236 Speaker 1: That is crucial. 515 00:32:24,316 --> 00:32:26,916 Speaker 5: Money means nothing to me. It's being good and treating 516 00:32:26,956 --> 00:32:29,276 Speaker 5: people wherever there, whatever there, what color they are, it 517 00:32:29,276 --> 00:32:32,956 Speaker 5: doesn't matter. It's what's inside, because sooner or later we 518 00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:34,156 Speaker 5: all end the same way. 519 00:32:50,756 --> 00:32:54,076 Speaker 1: This bonus episode of Bad Women, The Blackout Ripper, was 520 00:32:54,116 --> 00:32:57,636 Speaker 1: hosted by me Halle Rubinhold. It was written and produced 521 00:32:57,636 --> 00:33:02,156 Speaker 1: by Courtney Garno, Ryan Dilly, and Alice Fines. Pascal Wise 522 00:33:02,316 --> 00:33:05,116 Speaker 1: Sound designed and mixed the show and composed all the 523 00:33:05,116 --> 00:33:09,436 Speaker 1: original music. The show was recorded at Border Studios by 524 00:33:09,516 --> 00:33:20,636 Speaker 1: David Smith and Tom Berry