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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocates dot com.

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Speaker 2: Lauren is on the phone today for our first Day

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him in SEEFA,

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Speaker 2: tells why is ghosting her, and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 2: But first, Lauren, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 2: heard from Sammy?

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Speaker 3: Oh it's been like a week or two. Now.

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Speaker 4: Have you reached out to him in that time?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I definitely have, although I don't think he

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Speaker 3: knows that I have. I'll probably have to explain that

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Speaker 3: to you a little bit. Have a weird situation, okay,

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Speaker 3: but I can't believe I'm saying. It's that the date

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Speaker 3: was actually like amazing, and it's so rare that I

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Speaker 3: meet anyone letters, you know, IRL or online where it's

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Speaker 3: like especially online to say, because you know, we'll text

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Speaker 3: and like I think that there could be a possibility

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Speaker 3: that going somewhere and then like I don't know, we

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Speaker 3: meet up and it's just not what I expected. But

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Speaker 3: in this case, the text chemistry absolutely translated to real life.

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Speaker 3: We spent like several hours together wasn't just at one spot.

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Speaker 3: We were like kind of hopping all around one venue

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Speaker 3: to the next, and believe it or not, even I

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Speaker 3: got to know some of his friends and they seem

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Speaker 3: awesome as well. And the night ended up at his place,

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Speaker 3: which I don't expect. But no, yeah, I know, you

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Speaker 3: know talk in the radio, so something's happened at our

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Speaker 3: you know, PG thirteen rated R. So I stayed the

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Speaker 3: night there and then we decided to meet up for

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Speaker 3: date number two, which was just casual but so much fun,

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Speaker 3: like downtown after work, you know, not my neighborhood where

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Speaker 3: I live, but it was just a great time.

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Speaker 4: Did you go back with him after date number two? Too?

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Speaker 3: Well? I texted him and just got no response, like

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Speaker 3: I didn't know where he was, so sitting there like what.

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Speaker 3: And then after fifteen minutes, I did something that like

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Speaker 3: I never want to do, like the phone call like

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Speaker 3: hey where are you? That sort of thing awkward.

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Speaker 4: So wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry he disappeared in the

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Speaker 4: middle of your date.

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Speaker 3: No, I got there and he was nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah again, I really think I like this guy, So

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Speaker 3: I'm like normally, after fifteen minutes, I would just believe, like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you're not going to waste my time. I don't even

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Speaker 3: know you, but I'm like, let me give a chance.

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Speaker 3: Did you never know? Like what could have happened?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: So I call and I missed. My calls are doing

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Speaker 3: like the same thing every single time. It would like

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Speaker 3: ring twice and then I'll go straight to voicemail. I

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Speaker 3: talked this up to like, okay, he's in a bad

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Speaker 3: service area, that sort of thing, but it happened, I

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Speaker 3: want to say, like four times in a row. So

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Speaker 3: at that point I just was like, Okay, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: go ahead and google, like how do I know if

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Speaker 3: someone's blocked me? Because I never could understand the answer

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Speaker 3: to this, But it's actually turns out it's really easy

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Speaker 3: to do that. Apparently, like you could just make your

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Speaker 3: number anonymous, yeah, to block people.

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Speaker 5: To find out if you were blocked, or to be

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Speaker 5: blocked to be blocked.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Like this was a lesson for me because like

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Speaker 3: apparently if it rings more than twice before the voice

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Speaker 3: that that means you're blocked?

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Speaker 4: It does or does that mean you're getting sent to voicemail?

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Speaker 3: It's blocked?

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Speaker 5: So I mean, okay, either way it's not okay.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, well, I wow, this

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Speaker 3: and I was smoking there, like I couldn't even bring

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Speaker 4: Oh that's really enough, smer. I would be frustrated about that,

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Speaker 4: especially if you think the date went so well that's yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: You just want to know why. Also, you're like.

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Speaker 4: We did you do something though, Like if you think

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Speaker 4: back to that first date, is there any thing that

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Speaker 4: could have happened that would cause the blocking?

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Speaker 3: No, And I've asked myself that now, like up and down,

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Speaker 3: and I'm for me and I thought it was mutual,

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Speaker 3: like we have this insane chemistry that's super rare. So

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Speaker 3: that's why I'm so disappointed. I can't come up with

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Speaker 3: any reason why, especially after like you know, seeing each

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Speaker 3: like why wouldn't you just.

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Speaker 5: Say, Okay, well we'll try to figure out for you.

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Speaker 2: Play a song, come back, and then call him and

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Speaker 2: see if you'll tell us why he's ghosting you. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you, plays song, come back and get your first

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Speaker 2: day follow up.

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Speaker 1: Next first date follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocateslad dot com.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us for today's first day follow up.

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Speaker 2: Lauren is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by

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Speaker 2: a dude named Sammy. So in a second, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: call him seefa, tell us why he's ghosting her, and

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Speaker 2: maybe get her another date if she still wants one.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Lauren, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: us up on your situation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, basically, I had like two really nice dates

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Speaker 3: and he was m I A. And he has not

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Speaker 3: talked to me whatsoever. And I don't understand why I'm

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Speaker 3: being ghosted.

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Speaker 5: And you think you might be blocked even.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, blocked me? Why I didn't take him for being

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Speaker 3: a coward. So that's why I'm so compute.

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Speaker 5: All right? You ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 3: Ah, that's what it's all for being.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, here we go. Hello him. I speaking to Sammy? Please?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, this is them, Sammy, what's up? This is Jewbel.

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Speaker 2: My name is Jubel. I host the radio show. It's

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Speaker 2: called the Jubil Show.

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Speaker 4: How's it going Sammy, the whole show's here. I'm Nina, Hi,

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Speaker 4: and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 3: Oh Hi, Hi?

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Speaker 5: All right, you ever listened to the show?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I've ever heard you guys.

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Speaker 5: On Well have you ever heard of First Day follow

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Speaker 5: Up before?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 6: I have.

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to get nervous here, But.

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Speaker 2: Don't be nervous because we're calling you because somebody did

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Speaker 2: send us an email about you, So maybe you'd be nervous.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But it's a segment where if you're ghosting somebody, they

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Speaker 2: can email us to get you on the phone and

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Speaker 2: ask why you're ghosting them. And we got an email

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Speaker 2: about you from somebody.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I think I probably know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You want to try to take a guess at the name,

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Speaker 2: I'm the lawn. Yes, Sammy, you're correct one, absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: But do you mind telling us why you're ghosting her?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Man? All right? Look, we we texted for a while.

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Speaker 3: It was great. We meet for the date. Chemistry is there,

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Speaker 3: she's really cool, she's hot.

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Speaker 6: Everything was good, and then at some point the conversation

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Speaker 6: we're just talking about like relationship things like, you know,

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Speaker 6: we are you ever gonna have kids? Are you ever

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Speaker 6: stuff like about relationship, okay, And at one point I

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Speaker 3: If a guy goes to a strip club, is that cheating?

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Speaker 3: That's sort of thing, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And let's just say that her perspective is pretty strict.

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Speaker 6: She said even watching adult movies was cheating. That to

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Speaker 5: Streme and nobody's gonna take that from you.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying, it's not like I watched it all

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Speaker 6: Oh, I mean I just kind of got awkward and

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Speaker 4: And it's just gave you an Okay, that's that's new.

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Speaker 6: Don't want to be a cheater. Like if we got together,

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Speaker 4: bit she might have been into it if she was like,

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Speaker 4: it's not cheating if you watch it with me.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say something right now, It is absolutely

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Speaker 5: Oh Sammy, wait a minute, Lauren, Wait, Lauren's here.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's Lauren. She's on the phone listening and wants

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Speaker 3: Oh man, oh man. Yeah. And I came here to

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Speaker 3: get of all the reasons that could be. But you know,

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Speaker 3: he was mimicking a performance like he's had Funny's experience

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Speaker 3: watching these on tutorials. If you will, you see, it

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Speaker 3: putting everything out on the table right now, I just

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Speaker 3: want to ask something like, you know, we went on

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Speaker 3: what were you doing during that time? Were you spending

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Speaker 3: your time like prepping, you know, watching all these videos cheating?

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Speaker 3: You know, what were you doing? Well, yeah, I watched

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Speaker 3: some videos in between. That's the mole people do. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So the gist of it is you were cheating on me.

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Speaker 3: We weren't experienceless, we'd gone on a date. What are

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Speaker 3: it's to me, it's no different than cheating, swinging, watching

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Speaker 3: for it's all the same group, it all together and

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Speaker 3: hearing had like thinking that you're amazing, But it turns

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look, it wasn't like I was watching

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Speaker 6: videos of girls that looked like you. I was watching

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Speaker 6: videos of like other types of matter what they look like, Lauren.

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Speaker 6: We went on two dates. We it's not like we

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Speaker 6: were engaged. Like, this is wild to me.

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Speaker 3: Really, you're forgetting in those four Actually it was six

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Speaker 3: hours that we spent together, not four like you said.

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Speaker 3: I guess you're forgetting half the things you said to

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Speaker 3: me during that date. But this is cool, it's fine.

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Speaker 6: I didn't make commitments. Then I'm am I in single

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Speaker 6: white female right now? What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Is that another video? Kind of yeah.

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Speaker 3: About a crazy girl. I'm scared.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, this is wild, man.

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Speaker 3: I really don't think you would be acting pretty nor

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Speaker 3: you'd be pretty crazy if you just found out you

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Speaker 3: got cheated on too, Okay, buddy, if.

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Speaker 6: You came to me and said, hey, I was watching

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Speaker 6: a bunch of porn this week, I'd be like, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 6: look I didn't cheat it on you.

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Speaker 3: We weren't together, we went on two days. This is

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Speaker 3: not okay. You can come up with an excuse a

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Speaker 3: verse you try to, like, you know, flop it all

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Speaker 3: over and whatever you want to say, but like, you're

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Speaker 2: Well, I haven't asked yet, Sammy. Would you like to

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Speaker 2: go on another day with Lauren? Will pay for it? Uh?

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Speaker 6: No, I would like to log into my internet and

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Speaker 6: watch some art films now, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay. I think that's really just proved my point

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Speaker 3: that I've been talking about with my friends, like every

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Speaker 3: single guy out there is a cheater in some way,

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Speaker 3: shape or form.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a good way to put.

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Speaker 6: It, but sure, all right, Lauren, you know I nobody

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Speaker 1: Juble's first dayful,