1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: the common threads that bind them all. So what's happening 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: in women's basketball right now is what we've been trying to. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: Get to for almost thirty years. 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: From the stadiums where athletes to break barriers and set records. 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Caitlin Quark broke the all time single game assists record. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Our discussions will uncover the vital connections between these realms 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: and the community we create. Welcome to Naked Sports. I'm 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: your host, Carrie Champion. Welcome back to Naked Sports. So 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: happy that you all are joining and supporting, and also 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: you all are watching on YouTube by subscribers, the word 14 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: is subscribers. They've gone up by about ten thousand recently, 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm really excited about that. So I'm 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: glad that you or hey, everybody make sure you tune 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: in and watch. I think we are really putting something 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: very special together this season on Naked Sports, because I 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: am really living at that intersection of sports, culture and politics. 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: But before I dive into who our guest is, I 21 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: do want to say, excuse this the nasally tone. I 22 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: have a bit of a cold or I'm getting over 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: a cold, like I'm sure many of you are. This 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: holiday season has been hectic, but it was wonderful and 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm grateful to see another new year. I hope you 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: all feel the same. Remind me, which I'll do at 27 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: the end of this podcast, to tell you about the 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: day after Christmas, I flew to Dubai to follow Novak 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: and talk to Novak Djokovic, one of the tennis greats. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: For me, Novak is definitely on the mount rushmore of 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: tennis players, and I had an opportunity to interview him 32 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: in Dubai some other athletes as well, and it was 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: really a special time. But I flew back through Toronto 34 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: to Austin to do the cn in New Year's Eve show, 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and I didn't get much sleep, and as a result, 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: I sound like Don Lemon. I don't know if you 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: all followed on or watched on he sneezing in coffin. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: That's the result of when you're too old to stay outside, Like, 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: why did I not just try to force myself to 40 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: get some sleep. I'm too old to be hanging out 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm entirely too old to be hanging out as is Don. 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm speaking on his behalf. But nonetheless, I hope you 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: all had a wonderful New Year. And if you've been 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: under a rock, let me take that rock off of 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: your head, your head, if you will. I know you 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: know what's happening in the country. And I am talking 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: about the invasion. I don't even know if that is 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: the accurate word what has happened in Venezuela, because two 49 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: things can be true. The way that it is being 50 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: reported here is that Trump's administration ordered our military to 51 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: go over there and capture this president, who has been 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: accused of being a war criminal and very many ways 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: treating the citizens of Venezuela unfair, etc. Amper stand, And 54 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: so he was captured with his wife brought back here 55 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: to the United States. But if you look in certain 56 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: places where there is especially here in the United States, 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: in Miami, for instance, people were dancing in the streets. 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: They were happy that Maduro Nicholas Maduro, the former president 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: of Venezuela, was captured. People were happy because apparently under 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: his regime people were treated poorly, the economy was awful, 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and they're happy he's gone. So two things can be true. 62 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: We can be as observers here thinking well, how did 63 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: that happen? What has been violated, what went on? And 64 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: then there are other people truly celebrating. And so today 65 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: our guest on the show is David Singer. David Singer 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: is a New York Times journalist as authored several books. 67 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: He covered President Obama. He's been covered. He's covered every 68 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: president just about right just in my lifetime. He's been 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: well regarded, considered someone who just gives you straight facts, dispassionate, 70 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: just the facts man truth. I had the opportunity of 71 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: meeting David Sanger when I was on a panel, a 72 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: CNN panel with Ottie Cornish and she comes on really 73 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: early in the morning, six am, and she invited him 74 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: on to talk about President Trump and nuclear weapons because 75 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: that's one of the beats he covers, of nuclear weapons. 76 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: And the way in which this man described and talked 77 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: about nuclear weapons, I understood it. I felt as if 78 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: I was a scientist. After that conversation, I took his 79 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: phone number and I said, you know, I would love 80 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: to have you on my podcast. I didn't know when 81 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: or it would come in to play but I just 82 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: I was so fascinated by the way in which he 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: was able to share this information which some people find 84 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: completely boring and uninteresting and hard to comprehend, and he 85 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: broke it down so simple, and he gave it context, 86 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and it felt very important. And listen, I am all 87 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: about just focusing on me and enjoying this new year 88 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: and following through resolutions. But I'm also I'm also committed 89 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: to making sure that we are informed, whether we want 90 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: to be informed or not. And I think it's important 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: that we hear this information. I do. I think that 92 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: we all receive information differently. You can decide, but what 93 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: happened is historical. Your kids' kids will be talking about this, 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: if not reading about this and what it all means. 95 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: So I have New York Times correspondent and reporter David 96 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Sanger on Naked's Boots. Let's welcome Emmanuel. David. This is 97 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: our rapid fire, our political rapid fire. If I say 98 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: to you, Nicholas Maduro, how would you describe him? 99 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 3: Maduro was the leader of Venezuela. He came in after 100 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: the death of Hugo Chavez, who had been democratically elected. 101 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: Though there are some questions about the election and then 102 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: was enormously popular. Maduro never had that popularity, but did 103 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: over time turn the country into something of a narco state, 104 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: and certainly he and his compatriots profited from that. Along 105 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 3: the way, he also turned it into a somewhat failed 106 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: oil producing state. There was a time when Venezuela, which 107 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: of course has the. 108 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 2: Largest reserves of. 109 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: Oil reserves of any country in the world, larger than Russia's, 110 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: larger than ours and so forth, pumps out under a 111 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 3: million barrels, is pumping out about less than a third 112 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: of what it used to in the Primaduro and some 113 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: degree pre Chavez days. So President Trump is not wrong 114 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: when he says that their oil infrastructure has basically been 115 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: allowed to go off and rot. 116 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: State time, we saw people celebrate his capture. How would 117 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: you describe his relationship or the feeling towards Maduro in Venezuela. 118 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: Well, there are a lot of people who have left 119 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: Venezuela in the Maduro era for fear of prosecution, because 120 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: of the economic climate, because of a climate of political repression. 121 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: There's no question that he was a dictator, and like 122 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: most dictators, there are always people around who like him. 123 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: I think it is fair to say that there were 124 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: a lot of Venezuelans who were celebrating his arrest and seizure. 125 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: But the same group of people may also have very 126 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: strong views if the United States steps in as it 127 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: has asserted the right to do, to run the country 128 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: or try a profit from their greatest single reservoir of wealth, 129 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: which is, of course, they're oil. 130 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Many Americans woke up to the news that Maduro was 131 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: captured and that he and his wife were heading back 132 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: to the United States to face charges. Please explain to 133 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: me how we arrived at this point. 134 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: Well, it's a really fascinating question, and a very good 135 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: question because his indictment dates back to twenty twenty, which 136 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: was one during President Trump's first term, and you know, 137 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: not the first national leader to be indicted. Think of 138 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: the Norjega case in Panama and in nineteen eighty nine, 139 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: where the US basically drove him out of his palace 140 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: mostly with blaring rock music, and arrested him, brought him back. 141 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: To the United States. 142 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: He stood trial and was incarcerated for a fairly lengthy 143 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: period of time. What's different now is two things. First, 144 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: President Trump decided that he would take the risk of 145 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: violating international law and the UN Charter by going and 146 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 3: seizing a national leader overseas. But the second interesting question, 147 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: which the administration has never answered, is of all the 148 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: dictators in the great wide world, why Maduro? I mean, 149 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: could we have dictators in Belarus, We have dictators in 150 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: nor Korea, we have dictators in Iran? What made this different? 151 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: Now Secretary of State Rubio would say, what made this 152 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 3: different is he was under active indictment, and therefore we 153 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: had the legal background. And there is an opinion written 154 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: years ago at the Justice Department to justify going in 155 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: and grabbing a national leader under indictment. 156 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: Whether you believe in the legal theory of that or not, 157 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: but it is really interesting that President Trump chose. 158 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: This particular leader at this particular time, and it raises 159 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: the question was he really after the drugs, which was 160 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 3: the premise under which they were incinerating these small skiffs 161 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: of forty feet long, allegedly carrying drugs out of the country, 162 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: but basically summarily executing those who are. 163 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: On board, Or was it really all about. 164 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 3: Regime change and getting American access to that oil and 165 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: getting in President Trump's view, justice for the American companies 166 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: whose facilities were expropriated by Venezuela twice once in the 167 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: nineteen seventies. But I think that President Trump was thinking 168 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 3: more about the expropriation in the nineteen nineties when Chavez 169 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: was still around. 170 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: You know, so many questions from what you just said. 171 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: I want to go back. There have been reports and 172 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: there are things that I've read that suggest we should 173 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: have saw this coming because of what was happening under 174 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: Pete Hegsath when we were blowing up boats in the Caribbean. 175 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: We should have seen that this was the next logical move. 176 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that the average American sitting at 177 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: home watching television would have thought that this was the 178 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: next logical move. Can you explain? 179 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, and I'm trying to find 180 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 3: the polite way to say it. People who didn't see 181 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: this coming weren't paying attention, right, I mean, yes, we 182 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: were taking these boats out, and you read about those, 183 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 3: and you saw the pictures because the Pentagon would release them, 184 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: of the missiles hitting these boats, and you'd see the 185 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: firestorm and all that. But then there was this build 186 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: up in the Caribbean of American naval forces to about 187 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty percent of all American naval forces were 188 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: suddenly tucked into the Caribbean. 189 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 2: The Gerald R. Ford, America's newest. 190 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: And biggest carrier and the carrier fleet around it was 191 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,119 Speaker 3: pulled out of the Middle East and sailed to the Caribbean. 192 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: That was impossible to miss. And you don't pull the 193 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: Gerald R. Ford, a huge aircraft carrier, out to blow 194 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: up little forty foot boats. 195 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well then it was there. We haven't been 196 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: paying attention. There's been a lot going on in the 197 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: United States. 198 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 199 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: With that, With that being said, what I I was 200 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: able to watch or witness yesterday to me was this fascinating. 201 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: As they have said in our business turn of events, 202 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Maduro and his wife being you know, escorted, handcuffed and 203 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: escorted into the chopper out of the chopper from Brooklyn 204 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 1: to the city in Manhattan. I don't know if our 205 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: grandchildren are our grandchildren grandchildren will understand this. We don't 206 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: understand what this looks like. Was that what does this 207 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: remind you of, because I know you have a vast history, 208 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: what does this remind you of? If anything at. 209 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: All reminded me? I think it was sort of one 210 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: part the door Joga. 211 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: Case that was back in nineteen eighty nine, so a 212 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 3: lot of people obviously don't remember it. One part the 213 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: seizure of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, who you remember was 214 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: dug out of a hole on the ground, arrested, stood trial, 215 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 3: and later was executed right by a Iraqi court. We 216 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: have seen other world leaders, you know, get arrested at 217 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 3: various moments, but the fact that they let the TV record, 218 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: TV cameras record every moment of this was clearly part 219 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: of an American campaign to say, if we can do 220 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: this to Maduro, we can do it to many others. 221 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: And that's why the really critical question today, Carrie is 222 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: what's next? Correct? You heard the President on Air Force 223 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: One on Sunday night talk about Columbia. I think that 224 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 3: what he said about the Columbia president was he better 225 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: watches ass. That was in an earlier set of comments. 226 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:01,359 Speaker 3: You heard the President talk a little bit about out Greenland, 227 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: a completely different case where he wants American control with 228 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 3: Greenland to counter Chinese and Russian ships shipping. That's a 229 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: little bit wildly out there because under the treaty with 230 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: Greenland that we signed in nineteen fifty one, he has 231 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: the rights to put ten thousand more American troops in Greenland, 232 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: and we pulled those troops out. 233 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: We had them during the Cold War. 234 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: David, I help me understand why why a president who 235 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: ran on being America first decides that we now are 236 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: involved in international affairs that some would say seemingly or 237 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: none of our business. And now we look and see 238 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: to your point, he's pointing out other places where he 239 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: might decide he wants to run, wants the US to 240 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: run the country until it can do a safe trans 241 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: of power. 242 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: So you raise a great question because there's a big 243 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: split in magaworld about this between the MAGA group that 244 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: basically says no more forever wars and the MAGA group 245 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: that says, well, there's nothing more America first than dealing 246 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: with your adversaries. And Maduro was bringing drugs into the country, 247 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: more of the venezuel and drugs were going to Europe 248 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: than the United States. 249 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: But that's another story, yeah story. 250 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, And that you can use America first to 251 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: go out and take out your enemies. And you see 252 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: this division even inside the administration. No one was more 253 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: we're not going to deal with foreign conflicts than JD. Vance, 254 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: And no one was more of a traditional interventionist neo 255 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: con than Secretary of State Rubio, who is now also 256 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 3: a National security advisor. And I think the only way 257 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: to read the events of the past few days is 258 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 3: that the Rubio faction appealed to that part of Donald 259 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 3: Trump's brain that wants instant results. And there's no more 260 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 3: instant result than pulling a dictator out of his bed 261 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 3: and shipping him off to the Brooklyn Detention Center. 262 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: I am completely fascinated by this. But you've seen a 263 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of things, and so when you say what's next, 264 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: the first question is how are we going to How 265 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: will the United States run Venezuela. That seems to be 266 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: a plan that doesn't feel fully in place. I wonder 267 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: what you're hearing about that and what that really looks like, 268 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: because right now people are saying it's an oil grab, 269 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: that's why we did it. 270 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: So even if you took it as just an oil grab, 271 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 3: you would be in the midst of a question of 272 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: how do you get at that oil. We're not on 273 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: the ground with troops. You're going to have to bring 274 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: in American oil companies. As we started off in our conversation, 275 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 3: they really do need to redo the entire structure, There's 276 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 3: no question about that. But that takes people and money 277 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: and capital, and you're going to have to protect those 278 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: sites from those people who don't want the Americans there 279 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: and would be tempted to go blow it up. There's 280 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 3: going to be significant risk to the Americans working there. 281 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: We already have some Americans who are in detention under 282 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: Maduro's time handfuls, but you could imagine that. And so 283 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: the President's going to have to explain. 284 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 2: How do you do this. 285 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: Without having your troops on the ground. And right now 286 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 3: the president doesn't have troops on the ground. He's got 287 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: this big armada floating off of Caribbean. He can't keep 288 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: it there forever. Right, that's the coercion. He has not 289 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 3: removed the Maduro government or structure. He has left the 290 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: vice president, who was sort of a co conspirator with Maduro. 291 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: He has left in place the intelligence head, the military head, 292 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: and their calculation is that that group is more easily 293 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: coerced to do America's bidding. Whether he's right or wrong, 294 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: we're about to discover. 295 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: There are so many more questions about this. I ask 296 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: you this. You started this conversation by saying, why this dictator? 297 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: There are so many others that could have been chosen, And. 298 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: Rol's got a lot of dictators. 299 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: Rule's got a lot of dictators. So when you think 300 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: about a dictator, there are people who would say that 301 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: Trump fits that description. Would you say that Trump is 302 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: a dictator? Does he fit that description? Does it feel familiar? 303 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: Does Trump fit that description. 304 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 3: In the way that we're seeing these dictators take place 305 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: right now? So I suspect that over time, You know, 306 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 3: you hear a lot of people. There are a lot 307 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: of partisans out there. The President's still got some constitutional 308 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: restraints on him, and our system is still working, and 309 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: we still have judicial review. 310 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: And so forth. 311 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: There are people who believe the system has been abused, 312 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: has been twisted, and so forth. So that's what we've 313 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: all got to go learn how to go cope with 314 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 3: as an internal issue for our country. But the question 315 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: that we're raising here is under what theory, under what 316 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: right does the United States step out to the rest 317 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: of the world. 318 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: Do you believe that this administration, as other ed administrations 319 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: have done, or planning seats that others will have to 320 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: pay for when you invade another country this way, and 321 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: you remove a dictator, and while some people and maybe 322 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: a majority of people are happy about it, who knows, Right, 323 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: there are mixed emotions. Two three things can be true. 324 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: Two or three things can be true. What in your 325 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: long history and what you've seen in witness and what 326 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: you've covered over the years, What are the repercussions of 327 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: doing something like this for us here Stateside? 328 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 2: Sure? Well. 329 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: Colon Powell used to have a great statement, pottery barn 330 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: rules apply, you break it, you bought it. And the 331 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 3: difficulty with saying I'm in charge of X country is 332 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: that you're in charge when things go wrong. 333 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: So we don't know what's going to play out. 334 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: On the streets of Caracas. But if the decapitation of 335 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 3: the country leads to rioting, luiting civil war, who knows. 336 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: And I'm not predicting any of that's going to happen, but. 337 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: You could imagine it happening. Once you have removed such 338 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: a force as Maduro, then you're responsible for what follows. 339 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: Now, the president might just wipe his hands of it. Interestingly, 340 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: he did not take the position of trying to say, look, 341 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: the United States recognized a winner from the twenty twenty 342 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: four election in Venezuela. It was not Maduro who tried 343 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: to steal the election, and that that winner should be 344 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 3: declared who's an opposition member should be declared the next 345 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: the sitting president. Instead, he simply let the vice president 346 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: take over as president. Well, if Maduro was an illegitimate president, 347 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: what makes his vice president. 348 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: Any more legitimate. 349 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: President Trump is not said when there will be elections. 350 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: So these are all issues that are going to play 351 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 3: out in the next few weeks and months, and it's 352 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 3: not clear to me how you end up working with 353 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: a regime that was loyal to Maduro a week ago. 354 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: You break it, you bought it. 355 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: That's it. 356 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: David Singer, thank you. I know you have to get 357 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: out of here. 358 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: Great to be with you. 359 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Friend. I'll see you one day 360 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: on AUTI Show. Maybe okay, okay by you guys have 361 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: so many questions. I have so many questions. David is busy. 362 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: He's not the only person that can talk about this, 363 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: but he was the first person that I could get 364 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: to in such a short period of time to talk 365 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: about everything that happened. But what's next is arguably the 366 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: best question. It's a simple question, but it's the best question. 367 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: What is next? Are I mean, I don't I don't 368 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: know about you, but I'm not in the mood to 369 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: sit here and watch us take over other countries and 370 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: run other countries. I'm worried about healthcare. I'm worried about 371 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, because my healthcare just went up, you know. 372 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: I'm worried about insurance premiums because my homeowner's insurance is 373 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: through the roof. I'm just like every single person here 374 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: in America. We are worried about ourselves. What happened to America? 375 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: First? 376 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: All of these questions and what does that mean? I 377 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: mean for us, because it really does start at the 378 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: top and then it trickles down to us. I am 379 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: all for good versus evil, with good winning. And from 380 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: everything that I've read and what I've heard and people 381 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: that I've spoken to, Maduro was a bad guy, right, 382 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: and I'm oversimplifying it, but he was a bad guy. 383 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: And the way it's been explained while we watch people 384 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: celebrate is that it was time for him to be 385 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: removed from power. But as David Sangerman and why him? 386 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: There are so many others, but I'm not you look 387 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I'm not blaming Trump for everything. 388 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: This happens in every single administration. There are wars that 389 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: we are unaware of. There are things that are happening 390 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: that are beyond and above our pay grade and of 391 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: course our interest. Every administration has blood on their hands. 392 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: That's just what it is. No one's perfect. I think 393 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: what's different about this administration at least for me. One 394 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to really understand it. And two, it's 395 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: just so blatant. With social media and TV, we can 396 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: see everything all the time. Too much information for my matters. 397 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: And just to recap, the United States launched a large 398 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: scale military strike and a raid in Caracas. They captured 399 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: the then president, Nicholas Maduro and his wife. This mission 400 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: has been planned for months. Singer said they were moving 401 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: battleships around. They were blowing up small boats in the 402 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: middle of the Caribbean, saying that it was because of drugs. 403 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: Where were those trucks? 404 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: This was all here. 405 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: Right in front of us. To pay attention to. Madua 406 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: and his wife were taking aboard a US military vessel. 407 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Reportedly we don't know the name of it. Uss Ewo 408 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: Jima flown to the United States, arrived in the New 409 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: York area that same day. You saw the visuals if 410 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: you've watched it on social media, whether you've watched it 411 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: on the news. From Brooklyn to Manhattan. He and his 412 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: wife went before a judge and said, we are not 413 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: guilty of the crimes in which we are being charged with. 414 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: So What's next? That's the name of this podcast. What's next? 415 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: What's next? For everything? Who knows? I have no idea, 416 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: and by the way, neither do they, whomever they may be. 417 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: If it's the administration, if your parents, if it's your friend, 418 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: if your boyfriend, your husband, your life, whatever, no one 419 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: knows what's next. We are just living day to day. 420 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: And with that being said, I hope that you feel 421 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more informed. I hope that you know 422 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: that we are in a different type of business. This 423 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: is a different world, and I know that. I mean, 424 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: if you're like me, sometimes I just want to just, 425 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, put earplugs in close my eyes. I do 426 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: not want to be a part of what is happening. 427 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: But as we embark on this new year, and everyone's 428 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: talking about what twenty to twenty six will be and 429 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: the resolutions and the Year of the Horse and shedding 430 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: and all the things. I'm just social media clips, I hear, 431 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: I am, I am not. I am not completely unaware 432 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: of what is going on with our world. It is 433 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: art imitating life. And what I mean by that is, 434 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: if you have seen this clip that's gone viral Jack Ryan, 435 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: you watch that show. It's on Prime Video And apparently 436 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: Jack Ryan told us, take a listen, what would. 437 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 4: You assume is the most major threat on the world stage? 438 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 3: Definitely Russia? 439 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: Definitely Russia. Who else? 440 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: China? 441 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: Stop yelling at me, but China. 442 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: It's a good answer. Venezuela. Anybody. 443 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 4: Everybody's cool with Venezuela. 444 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 2: No threat? 445 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 4: Okay, which one of these places can claim to have 446 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 4: the largest oil deposit on the planet, more than Saudi 447 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: more than Iran? 448 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: Wow? 449 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: Okay, what about things like gold? More than all the 450 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 4: minds in Africa combined. Venezuela is arguably the single greatest 451 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 4: resource of oil and minerals on the planet. So why 452 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 4: is this country in the midst of one of the 453 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: greatest humanitarian crises in modern history? On the news, they'll 454 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 4: call it a crisis, but on the world stage, they'll 455 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 4: call it a failed. 456 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: All right, So there you have it. You've been educated 457 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: for the day. Take this information, use it wisely, forget 458 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: about it, don't pay attention to it. Do whatever your 459 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: heart desires. But I do think that it is incumbent 460 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: upon us to be a little more informed. Whether you 461 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: want to be or not a child, we don't have 462 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: a choice. As I was coming back from Dubai and 463 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: I was thinking about just the New Year resolutions, what 464 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: that country was like, how different it was from being here. 465 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, no matter what is going on, 466 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: I still want to be here, no matter what's going 467 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: on anywhere else, I still want to be here. America 468 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: is still home, and I hope you all feel that 469 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: same way and you find some sort of peace, some 470 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: sort of some sort of why, you know what I mean, 471 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: Like because this is our new year. I don't have 472 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: any resolutions, but I know that twenty twenty five was 473 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: some bullshit. It kicked me in the ass. I know 474 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: that I don't know about y'all, but twenty twenty five 475 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: was tough on me. And I'm looking forward to a 476 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: new year. But I think we've been accustomed to so 477 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: much and I don't even think we're even paying attention 478 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: to it. We had COVID, we were locked down, we 479 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: were in the house, millions of Americans died. Then we 480 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: pop right out of it because we were retired of being 481 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: in the house. We were right back to work. We 482 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: got right back into our routines. We then we turned 483 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: around and we said, guess what. We got a new president, 484 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. We had to deal with that. As soon 485 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: as he got into office. He was just hitting us 486 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: with all these executive orders, and we're like, what's happening, 487 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: what's happening, what's happening. And now we've got our sea 488 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: legs and we know how to proceed. Americans are spoiled, 489 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that we are because we've had a 490 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: very privileged life. But now we know how to proceed. 491 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: And I also what I did notice, and I mean, 492 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: and I don't take this lightly. When I travel abroad, 493 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you all travel abroad, I 494 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 1: always say this traveling is is the only thing that 495 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: pays you back. It educates you, and it's the only 496 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: thing that pays you back. It's the only thing that 497 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: I will pay money for that I would give money 498 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: to and say, guess what pay me back? In education. 499 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: When I travel abroad and I meet different people from 500 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: other parts of the world in different countries, I realize 501 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: that most of the citizens and other countries are so 502 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: well educated, they are so well informed about what's going 503 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: on here, what's going on in their country, and we 504 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: are not because we're so privileged, because we have so 505 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: many rights, because we have so many freedoms. At least 506 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: that is my thought and take on that. But I 507 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: beg of you all to pay attention five minutes a day, 508 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: give yourself five minutes a day, read something, confirm something. 509 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about from the dark web. I'm 510 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: just saying, God, and get some reputable reporting, like mister Sanger, 511 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: see what you know. All right? With that being said, 512 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: I am signing off, and I want to remind you 513 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: of two things. One, subscribe, subscribe, subscribe, watch us on YouTube. 514 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: We have so many new followers. I'm so grateful that 515 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: you guys are sitting here and locking it down. And 516 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: one other thing, I got to give a shout out 517 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: to let me just a couple of little praises. Shout 518 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: out to my man Charlemagne, did you guys hear? And 519 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,719 Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcast Network, which I am on Charlemagne 520 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollar deal to build out this franchise, 521 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: this fascinating franchise that is dedicated to diversity when diversity 522 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: is not in style, dedicated to making sure people of 523 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: marginalized voices have big platforms, and he's sharing his wealth 524 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: with all of us. Congratulations. I like to tell this 525 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: story about Charlemagne. I met him back in the day 526 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: when I was working at ESPN, and to watch the 527 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: evolution of Charlemagne from when I met him in twenty 528 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: twelve to who he is today is really special and 529 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm really happy for him, and I'm really proud to 530 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: be a part of this network that's doing amazing things. 531 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: And I need you all to poured in big ways. 532 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: So congratulations to Charlemagne, Congratulations to the Black Effect Network 533 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: podcast network, and more importantly, thank you iHeart for looking 534 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: out all right, you all have a wonderful day. I 535 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: will see you all next week. Naked Sports written and 536 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: executive produced by me Carrie Champion, produced by Jacquise Thomas, 537 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: sound design and mastered by Dwayne Crawford. Naked Sports is 538 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: a part of the Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartMedia