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Speaker 1: Your boyfriend is how'd you meet him? What was his DM?

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Speaker 2: He said he liked thinking about You when I was

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Speaker 2: teasing it, so he sent me the song.

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Speaker 1: Did he really like that song or was he just

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Speaker 2: He says he really liked the song.

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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, we're hanging out today with one of the

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Speaker 1: fastest rising new voices in music, Stella Lefty. She's awesome

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Speaker 1: singer songwriter who went from posting songs online in college

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Speaker 1: to having one of the biggest breakout moments of the

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Speaker 1: year with her song Boston, which is also awesome. You

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Speaker 1: might know her from her song think About You, racked

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Speaker 1: up millions of streams, really introduced a lot of people

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Speaker 1: to her before Boston hit. She has a new EP

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Speaker 1: that's out called Is This Heaven. She's getting ready to

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Speaker 1: hit the road and I don't know what I expected,

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Speaker 1: but pretty great. Not gonna lie to you, she is.

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Speaker 1: I think you're really going to enjoy her as well.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite new artists now, Stella Lefty. Stella

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Speaker 1: Good to.

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Speaker 2: See you, Bobby, good to see you? Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that your real name? Stella is because it's the

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Speaker 1: cool name. My name is not real. What's your real Well,

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Speaker 1: Bobby's my real name?

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Speaker 2: Is it Robert?

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Speaker 1: No, Bobby is my real name, but Bones is a

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Speaker 1: fake name. I kind of thought that, right, But your

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Speaker 2: Well, Lefty is like a shortened version of my last name.

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Speaker 1: Well, my real last name Isopolis.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so yours also?

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Speaker 1: No, it's not, it's not it's not at all.

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Speaker 2: I really believed. I was like, what origin is that?

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Speaker 2: Like where we're going to hate myself? But you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm trusting. I trusted you.

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Speaker 1: And you you don't live here in Nashville. Have you

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Speaker 2: No? I almost did. I was supposed to live here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, just I want to walk through like your it.

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Speaker 1: It's like a superhero your origin story because my origin

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Speaker 1: we haven't met. I know, you know, so bear with me.

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Speaker 1: You grew up near Chicago. The reason I think I

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Speaker 1: know that is I saw I'm a massive Cubs fan.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, where are you from?

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Speaker 1: My whole life? Well, I'm from Arkansas, but my stepdad

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Speaker 1: and his dad were massive Cubs fans, and the Cups

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Speaker 1: sucked forever. This is before you. Yes, so they sucked

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Speaker 2: Oh so now you get to own it. You can

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Speaker 2: own it now you're a real Cubs fan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And so now once they start winning, you don't

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Speaker 2: No. Like my my mom grew up outside of Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Who do you write songs with in New Orleans or

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Speaker 2: I didn't know and there was no one in that

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Speaker 2: I was posting. That's what was weird. And I still

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Speaker 1: what's different about posting is you're opening yourself to all

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Speaker 2: I did, but there were like five comments. These videos

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Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like when you're talking about your

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Speaker 1: In Nashville, I know how it works. Most rights are

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Speaker 1: to have a camp. Otherwise, I give a publishing deal.

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Speaker 1: A publisher sets you up and you're just kind of

442
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 1: bouncing around and you write from ten to three or

443
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,760
Speaker 1: four pm, and then maybe you come back and you

444
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 1: meet again if you're not finished, and you but it's

445
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,879
Speaker 1: ten to four for the most part, and it's very

446
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,919
Speaker 1: much business. You go in, you write your song, and

447
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: then you get out and you get out.

448
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Speaker 2: Okay, So it's pretty similar like that in LA.

449
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Speaker 1: In LA, my feeling, and I'm probably wrong on this,

450
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,000
Speaker 1: is that people are like writing at night and they're

451
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 1: starting and they're starting with melody first.

452
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,360
Speaker 2: Oh oh, I start with Mighty first. Okay, I start

453
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,399
Speaker 2: with Mundy first, for sure.

454
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Speaker 1: I think here a lot of times, and it's becoming

455
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,679
Speaker 1: more a little more like that, but it's not all

456
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's concept first, you know, some

457
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 1: some lyrics first and then we'll build the melody. Or

458
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 1: from my friends that ride in LA always felt like

459
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: when they would talk about it would be random hours

460
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: and melody first and we'll figure out everything else after that.

461
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Speaker 2: I mean that is true, but there's a yeah, we

462
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,080
Speaker 2: start at one pm. Everything's at one. You guys are eleven.

463
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I've surprised to that early. But you can like

464
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 1: have lunch and like some.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like it's like there's hours of talking. That's

466
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,359
Speaker 2: actually the difference in LA. I feel like in a

467
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 2: session you start at one, but you're talking and like

468
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 2: hanging out for like two hours, so you're not even

469
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 2: starting until like you know two or three.

470
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Speaker 1: Three, we're here. You got to get out by four,

471
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: so right, And there's the.

472
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Speaker 2: There's a better balance out here, like people have family.

473
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 2: I feel like in LA, like you know, there's less

474
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Speaker 2: of like I'm going to go home and be with

475
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Speaker 2: my kids or be with whoever I'm married to or

476
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 2: dating or whatever. It is, like there's a nice work

477
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 2: life balance. I think out here that maybe LA doesn't have,

478
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 2: like if you don't finish your song four five pm,

479
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 2: like you'll be there probably until like nine, or whenever

480
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 2: you finish.

481
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: Here you go home. Here, you go home and you'll

482
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: revisit it, or one person you finish it or die

483
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: visit it will just or it just dies. And someone

484
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 1: else uses that concept later and then you go, wait, no,

485
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,679
Speaker 1: that's our song that we wrote that you just recycled

486
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,679
Speaker 1: into that, And they're.

487
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Speaker 2: Like, okay, we'll give you two percent, Like, but that's something.

488
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,919
Speaker 1: Else here here, we don't really do two percent five percent.

489
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Speaker 2: I know, yeah, if there's three people, it's thirty three.

490
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 2: But that's how I've always done it. I think that

491
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 2: that's like a good way to go about it in LA.

492
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: I also think that people I've surrounded myself with are

493
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: like that. I like, there's not so much of the

494
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 2: nitty gritty of like, okay, how much did you write?

495
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Like if you didn't write so much, like you'll get

496
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's more even.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was always odd to me and not wrong,

498
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 1: but odd to me. And I guess both ways are

499
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 1: odd because again, I have friends that have sat in

500
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 1: rooms and they will say they didn't contribute much that

501
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: day because either they weren't feeling it, they weren't feeling good.

502
00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 1: But yet they get thirty three percent of the song

503
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: if it's a three person right, but in LA I

504
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: have friends like man, I kind of killed it, not

505
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: only got five percent.

506
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Speaker 2: I know, it is weird, it's a backwards but it's

507
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: so hard, Like how do you even like I know,

508
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 2: because sometimes and this is what's crazy about it, Like

509
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: sometimes an energy alone, even if you didn't say anything,

510
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: is like the reason why the song was good, you

511
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like if you were just if

512
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 2: you came in to writing session and you and I

513
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 2: were writing together and it was just us two, but

514
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: like you didn't say anything, but your vibe like made

515
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 2: me super inspired, like.

516
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 1: You know, and that's why it's evenly split here for

517
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: the most right, is I think vibe presence being in

518
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: the room matters an equal amount. Like we've all committed

519
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: that whatever happens in this room, we all own it

520
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: equal share.

521
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 2: Of, right, whatever we all did this day like contributed

522
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: to wherever it ended up.

523
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of with that really.

524
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like yeah, I mean I get I think

525
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 2: like it's hard, Like I think for me, like I

526
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,640
Speaker 2: really stopped writing, like I really haven't done a session

527
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: in such a long time because I think I got

528
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: lucky and I found like my friend happened to be

529
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: my favorite co writer of all time, so like that

530
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: just is easy. Like I bring her into things and

531
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 2: you know, like I want her to be So it's

532
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: just it's different. I think it depends on your relationship

533
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: with who you're writing with, and like if it's your

534
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 2: best friends that you're writing with, you're like, I want

535
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 2: to give you an equals, you know what I mean.

536
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: It's like I'm not going to screw you over on

537
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: this song.

538
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: Who's the friend?

539
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: Her name is Grace Anger?

540
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: And was she your friend before you guys started writing?

541
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't write for like the first year of

542
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 2: our friendship.

543
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Speaker 1: Where'd you meet her?

544
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 2: I moved into her house in La.

545
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: Random as in she needed a roommate and you didn't

546
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: know each other or had that work out?

547
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: Random? Because I when I met my publisher and he

548
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: was like, you guys to go to La, I was like,

549
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody in La, So like am I

550
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 2: gonna like, like who am I going to live with?

551
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: And he was like, I have this writer signed to me,

552
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: who's the best. And he has this house that he

553
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: like grew up in. It was like in his family

554
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: and he had six girls living in the house and

555
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: him and I just asked him, like if I could

556
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 2: just sleep in his extra room for like a few months.

557
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 2: And she was my direct roommate, and so he just

558
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 2: became how.

559
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Speaker 1: Big was this house?

560
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: Well, there was like two it was like I don't know,

561
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: it was like separated. It was like one house and

562
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: then another house, but they were on the same land.

563
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: And like, so you got lucky that she was cool.

564
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: I got so lucky, and then you got lucky she

565
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: was cool and talented.

566
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: Yes, I like I hit the jackpop because I and

567
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 2: also like she's just, yeah, the best person I've ever met.

568
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 2: So I'm like, wow, it's great that we also like

569
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: to write together. Like what are the odds of that happening.

570
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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

571
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Speaker 3: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

572
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Speaker 1: I had a roommate once. I didn't want to eat

573
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 1: her food. I didn't know where. It was a random

574
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: type situation. When I moved to Austin and I was starving.

575
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: You didn't want to eat her food.

576
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Speaker 1: I don't want to eat he food like when you

577
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: would cook. Well, I just didn't want to eat her

578
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: like I got she bought it. It was her food.

579
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: I get it. There are rules. And I had one

580
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: piece of ham out of her package of ham.

581
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: Oh you don't want to eat her food? Food in

582
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: the fridge?

583
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah it wasn't. And I had a piece

584
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: of her ham. I was starving, and I wrote a

585
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: note and I said, hey, minus one piece of ham.

586
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. She built? She build me for like

587
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: a dollar eighteen for the one piece of hand one

588
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: piece of ham. Yeah, that's a pot energy her and

589
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 1: I did you good friends?

590
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

591
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: I would assume we don't want any songs together.

592
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 2: She's like taleling up in her head when you like, yeah,

593
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: do anything.

594
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm starving. I just wanted one one piece of ham,

595
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 1: and I got billed for the one piece of ham.

596
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

597
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: That's a bad roommate.

598
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she should be looking out for you,

599
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: Like did you ever live in the dorm? Did I

600
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: ever live in a dorm?

601
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: And two lane?

602
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah? For two years?

603
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: Do they make you live in the dorm? Your freshman year. Yeah,

604
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: how'd you like that?

605
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: I loved it.

606
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: I loved it too. I love loving the dorm too.

607
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: But I love being around people like I like I

608
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: The best thing ever is that, like you just everybody's

609
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: around you, Like you can just go upstairs and there's

610
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: like five your friends going downstairs, five of your friends.

611
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: Your roommate's your friend.

612
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: Like I still have a couple of friends from living

613
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: in the dorm. The best thing about it for me

614
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 1: was I don't make friends easily. And I was also

615
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: working all the time and going to school, so I

616
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: don't think I would have made friends, but like you said,

617
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: there's so many people there it's hard not to. And yeah,

618
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 1: I always advise everybody live in the dorm your freshman year.

619
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: Definitely it was.

620
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: It was massive for me because I don't I don't

621
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: make friends easy. I'm assuming you do. You're pretty outgoing.

622
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 2: I'm I'm pretty outgoing, but I but it is like

623
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: the concept of and I remember how it felt to

624
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,719
Speaker 2: be a freshman and show up and be like, oh

625
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: my god, I have to like start over, Like I

626
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: feel like growing up I had the same friends that

627
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: like I've you know what I mean, I don't remember

628
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: making those friends because they were just always my friends.

629
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: But then freshman year of college, you're like, wow, I

630
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: have to like introduce myself to these people and like

631
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: see if we get along, and like it's a whole

632
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: other thing. But I don't know, I do feel like

633
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm pretty I'm pretty outgoing.

634
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: Did you feel like you had the opportunity to start over,

635
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: like be something that you weren't known for. Was that exciting?

636
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, Oh my god. I had zero confidence in

637
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: high school, like negative confidence. So I think when I

638
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: got to college, I was like, no one knows anything

639
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: about who I was in high school anything ever, So

640
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 2: I was just like, Wow, I get to like start over,

641
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe y'all like get a boyfriend. I

642
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: don't know, why did you choose to inspiring? I the

643
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: public health program was really great there, and I visited

644
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: like a family friend of mine went there and I

645
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 2: visited her when she was a sophomore, I think, and

646
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: I just fell in love with the school. I loved

647
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: everything about it. I loved, first of all, like the weather.

648
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 2: People will obviously say that it's like so insufferably hot,

649
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: but obviously Chicago is like the opposite so I was like,

650
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: this is great. Yeah, food it is. It is really hot.

651
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: It is really hot. I feel like if I lived

652
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: in New Orleans my freshman year, would it had been

653
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the freshman fifteen? It had been the freshman fifty five

654
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: because the food boy, Yeah, because the freshman fifty five. Yeah,

655
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: the food there, it's great, it's so good, but it's

656
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: so rich. Do you have like an appreciation now for

657
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: a Cajun food just because you lived there for four years?

658
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 2: I do. I'm like really unfortunately picky, Like I'm a

659
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: really picky eater, and it's so lame and it like

660
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: has been lame forever and I want to get over it,

661
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: but I can't. Like, but I do really I appreciate it,

662
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: and like we would go to JazzFest. I went to

663
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: Jasfest like my senior and junior year. And the food.

664
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: Have you been to Jasica? It's one of the best.

665
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: It is, it really is. It's like the energy there

666
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: is amazing, but the food is so good and I

667
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: you know, the mac and che Well, have you ever

668
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: been to a crawfish boil?

669
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas, Yes, I mean a lot, yeah, a lot.

670
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: Love bit here's the thing I don't like getting my

671
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: hands dirty. You don't, not really, and I've probably done

672
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: it twenty times. But you know, like they dump them out, yes, and.

673
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: There's the corner, yes, yes, I die from that. I

674
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: love those.

675
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: You can only do this so many times, and it's

676
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 1: a lot of work for not a lot of meat.

677
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: I think it's like, but it tastes so good. It

678
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: tastes so good, and it like there's something so like

679
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's like a full activity.

680
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to have an activity. Eat no, no,

681
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: And then it stays there in your nails, I know,

682
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: but then.

683
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: I would get really gross about it, to be honest,

684
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: Like we had crawfish boils all the time, because like

685
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: two Lane loves to celebrate, I mean, New Orleans love

686
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: to celebrate anything, Like there's holiday every week, parade every week.

687
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: It's the best place on the planet. They're celebrating all

688
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: the time. And like we were just eating crawfish and

689
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: having crawfish boils like every single month, multiple times a month,

690
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: and I like truly would just be sitting on the

691
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: ground like really going at it, and I did not

692
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: get a fuck. I don't know. If I'm kind, you.

693
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: Can say that, but it's just it's just so much

694
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: work for so little meat, but.

695
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 2: You can eat so much of it. You could sit

696
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: there for hours, but you know what I.

697
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Mean, kind of work you gotta do to eat for hours.

698
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: It's just constant, and I don't they don't, Mike, So

699
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: to me, I'm gonna pass. Now you can pass again,

700
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: probably twenty thirty. Crawfish boils in my life a lot,

701
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: but it's like even the eating like a crab. It's good,

702
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: but it takes a freaking ever you gotta.

703
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: I know, but I'm less enticed by that. I would

704
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: way or rather, I don't know. There's something about and

705
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: maybe it's like where I was happy, Like maybe it

706
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 2: was just the energy of like New Orleans and eating

707
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 2: them and like having a crawfish boil there. I don't know,

708
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: but like I could never be turned away from it.

709
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Halfway through. I'd see corn and potatoes, but the corn

710
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: is fire. It's great, yeah, because it has all the

711
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: flavor from exactly. Yeah, that's what I would do. I

712
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: would go like this sucks, I'm just gonna eat corn

713
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: and potatoes.

714
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: Okay, well maybe we need to we need to go

715
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: and like just try maybe you try again, just once more.

716
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm good, I got I got my fill. It's

717
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: it's just too much more enough meat.

718
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Okay.

719
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: What advice would you give someone when they moved to

720
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: a city and don't know anybody?

721
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: What advice would I give someone like the way that

722
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: I moved to LA and didn't or is it or

723
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: is it college? Is it college or is it just

724
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: a SI?

725
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: Well it could be both because you did it twice,

726
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: I've done it before, and it's really it feels foreign

727
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: and even the news channels are weird. Everything's weird about it, everything,

728
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: and you think I'm never going to fit in here,

729
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: But I think I grew so much from doing that.

730
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: It's just dumping in a bucket of water. And you so, like,

731
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: what did you learn from moving somewhere and not knowing

732
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: anyone either time?

733
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: I I mean I think like as I mean, I've

734
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: been relatively outgoing for my whole life, But I do

735
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: think that like moving to a new city and not

736
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: knowing anybody allow you to like be different, like not

737
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: different versions of yourself, but like figure out like who

738
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: you are in a completely different social setting and like

739
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: what I don't know, Like that's how I felt when

740
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: I when I got to Tulane, I was like, wow,

741
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: I haven't made a new friend so long, Like this

742
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: is such a different experience I'm in I'm so like

743
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: not so far from home, but like, you know, it

744
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: just everything felt so different. But I think, like I

745
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: don't know, it just gave me. It was different because

746
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: I really felt like I wanted to reinvent myself, Like

747
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a more confident version of myself.

748
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: I wanted to be like boys did not think I

749
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 2: was cute for the first eighteen years of my life,

750
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: Like truly I was not cute. And so I think

751
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: when I got Tulane, I was just like I want to, like,

752
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, kiss all these moies. I don't know it

753
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: just but I did it. It wasn't even that I

754
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: just I don't know, like I think. I think the

755
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: biggest thing is just like finding out who you are

756
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: in different settings and like going out of your comfort

757
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: zone to just like figure that out. Whatever that is,

758
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: like joining a club or getting involved with like whatever's

759
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: going on in the community, whether it be in LA

760
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: or when I was in college or whatever. Like just

761
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: involving yourself in things.

762
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: To me, when I would move somewhere. Yeah, I never

763
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: had that where I was kissing all the boys. But

764
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: whenever I would move somewhere and I didn't know anybody,

765
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: it did two things for me. One, it allowed me

766
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: to shed whatever light skin that I didn't want to

767
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: have to keep carrying with me freely because nobody knew

768
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: of that. So, like you said, you can reinvent yourself.

769
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: And it was never a full reinvention for me, but

770
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: I got like lose a couple of things that maybe

771
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: I didn't like to be known for. The Other thing

772
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: was it just showed me how freaking strong.

773
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: I was totally like, you can do that, ye, because it's.

774
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Very hard, it's very scary. But I think doing that

775
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: kind of I proved to myself that it could be

776
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: done and I could do like really almost anything. I

777
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: was lifting in a city where I knew nobody, not

778
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: one single person, and I built a whole community in

779
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: life from scratch. Yeah, it's crazy, it's crazy. It is

780
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: crazy not really being born there, because like I said,

781
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: we're born somewhere, we have a community built on top

782
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: of us.

783
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: Because well it's like your parents' friends kids, it's like

784
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's totally different.

785
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: What do you think about just La in general?

786
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I have mixed feelings about La in general, because I

787
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: love my friends in LA and I feel so lucky

788
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: to have like been thrown into like a pool with

789
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: them because I moved into their house. But like I think,

790
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: I driving in LA is incredibly frustrating thumbs down, And like,

791
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that there's that much of

792
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: a community in LA, which has been the thing for

793
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: me where I every time I come here, there's so

794
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: much more of a community, like people, you run into

795
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: people when you go out, or like you know what

796
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: people are doing, even if you don't, like you know

797
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's more like it just feels like

798
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: a smaller town, whereas in LA, like you could not

799
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: run into somebody that lives in the same part of town,

800
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: and as you once like you may never see them

801
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: unless you're like texting or whatever. It is. So there's

802
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: just not so much of a community, which is hard

803
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: for me because like where I grew up, there's like

804
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 2: so much a community, Like there's one like the coffee

805
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: shop it's called hometown in my town, and like you

806
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: go there and you run into everybody that you've like

807
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: ever known, So it's like, that's so nice. I miss that.

808
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: I would spend a month or weeks at a time,

809
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: depending on what show I was shooting. Once we stayed,

810
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: we were there for three months, so I never had

811
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: a real community there. So I missed a good part

812
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: of it. Because my wife, she went back to grad

813
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: school and she moved to LA and she had a

814
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: really good group of friends, so she loved it. I

815
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: only got the bad part of the industry, yuck, where

816
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: everybody's just like trying to grab the thing and move.

817
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: So I didn't get the good I got the car

818
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: sick and everything taking forever to get to and just

819
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: like the industry. And if that's all you know, I

820
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't think your relationship with LA is great.

821
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: No, definitely not, definitely not. What part of l were

822
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: you in.

823
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: We were in Studio City for a while. We lived

824
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: in Glendale for a while. I love Glendale and if

825
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: we were shooting because I was on American Idol for

826
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: four years and so we would just stay downtown like

827
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. I don't know. I almost got stabbed at lunch.

828
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I was just dodging needles and knives

829
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: walking down the street. Yeah, yeah, so.

830
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: It's definitely better. There's better mines here. It's better here,

831
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: for sure.

832
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: I just didn't get the good part of it. I'm

833
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: not even trashing it as a whole because my wife

834
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: lived there and loved it because she found her friends.

835
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: I just wondered for you, like, if you have people, yeah,

836
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: if you have your community.

837
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: It's the people anywhere, Like I think that's anywhere. Like

838
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: you if you find people that you love and want

839
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: to do everything with, no matter what city you're in,

840
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: I think it makes any city tolerable.

841
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: You know, when you're writing songs, especially early on, did

842
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: you think you just wanted to be a songwriter or

843
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: did you think you're going to write songs for you

844
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: and be an artist.

845
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a songwriter for other people.

846
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: How did you know that was a real job Because.

847
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: I found out it was a real job my junior year,

848
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: because when I got reached out to by this publisher,

849
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Like when we were talking, he was like, you can write,

850
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: because I was like, there's no way I'm an artist,

851
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: but the way I was posting it presented to be

852
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: that I wanted to be an artist, and he was like,

853
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that, Like there's another path,

854
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: Like you can write for other people and you never

855
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: have to, like, you know, be the face of these songs.

856
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: And that was appealing to you.

857
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Is my dream? I was like, let's go.

858
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: I was like I can. And also when I realized,

859
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: like I didn't know that a lot of the songs

860
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: I loved growing up were written by other people, So

861
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: that was like, you know, pivotal. I was like, what

862
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: are you talking about? Like that Tim McGraw is not

863
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: writing these songs or whatever. It was so like when

864
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: I found out the power behind that and those people

865
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: and what they were able to do, like I wanted

866
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: to be a part of that.

867
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: So when you moved to Los Angeles, was it to

868
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: be a writer or was it to be a writer artist?

869
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: Then to be a writer?

870
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: Really?

871
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

872
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: When did it happen? Where you trained? Transition too? I

873
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: want to be a writer, but now I want to

874
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: perform the songs I'm writing.

875
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: It was well, okay. The joke of the situation was

876
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: like my first sessions that I was in Nashville for

877
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: when I wanted to be a songwriter, I was like

878
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: writing these songs, but these sessions like weren't pointed at

879
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: like Okay, we're going to write for this specific artist.

880
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: We were just going in being like let's write, but

881
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: like it was not for me, Like we were just

882
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: like let's write anything. And so but I would go

883
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 2: home and like post those songs on TikTok, and I

884
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: think people were just like, do you know, like what

885
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: being a song? Like you know what I mean? They

886
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: were like you're not supposed to do that. You're not

887
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: even allowed to do that. They were like this is

888
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: actually the opposite of like what today's point was. And

889
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: I was just like, well, what does anything matter? You know,

890
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: I didn't know there were rules. I didn't know that.

891
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: That was like people probably left those sessions being like

892
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: we don't want to write with her again, like what

893
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: is she doing? But but yeah, it was like quickly

894
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: after I got LA where I was like, I actually

895
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: think I want to like sing these songs that I'm writing.

896
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cat. We'll be right back. This is the

897
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

898
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: Did you want to sing one because you now wanted

899
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: to sing or because you wrote them and felt like

900
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: you could actually distribute the message, But you know why,

901
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: I felt.

902
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 2: Like, well it was okay, so one of the songs

903
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: that I'd written in Nashville or no, it wasn't in Nashville.

904
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it was in LA. But then I went back

905
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: to I don't really know. There was like I was

906
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: in La, I was in Nashville. There was like two

907
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: trips that happened over the summer before I ended up

908
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: meeting my now publisher, But so I don't know what

909
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: city it wasn't. But I wrote this song called kiss

910
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Me that wasn't going to be for me, but then

911
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: I posted on my TikTok and then it did well.

912
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: So that I think was the moment where I was like, well,

913
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: am I going to give this song to somebody else now?

914
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 2: Like that it's doing that, It's like people are liking

915
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: the song and like I'm singing the songs, so like

916
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: maybe I should keep the song. And that's really how

917
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: it just it just like happened, like I was like, Okay,

918
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep these songs, like maybe I like

919
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: I want to post, and everyone was always saying to

920
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: me like that's half the battle, like it's hard, you know,

921
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: to put yourself out there on that way alone. So

922
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: I was like I want to do that. So I

923
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: might as well just keep these songs.

924
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: Was that the first video that really hit for you?

925
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the first one.

926
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: And how viral did it go?

927
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Probably like three hundred thousand views? Like not so so viral,

928
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: But I was really viral for my accents.

929
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: Before What do you mean your accents?

930
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: I was viral for doing like a French accent when

931
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: I was like a freshman in college, British.

932
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: Accent, so as when I was young, I would like

933
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: fake I was from other countries a waffle house to

934
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: see if I could fool them, But I never really

935
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: put it on. And what are you?

936
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 2: What are your accents?

937
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 3: Like?

938
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: What do you right?

939
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: I can kill a Russian? You think? Do you talk

940
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: to me? I come from Russia where we have clevery night, So.

941
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 5: It's not great, but it's enough, right, I just do

942
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 5: the guy from Rocky Rocky for I love it so

943
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 5: and I would just see if I could convince them

944
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 5: that I was actually Uh.

945
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: They probably didn't care.

946
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: They were like whatever this is?

947
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: They just get in his waffle some other cover what

948
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: you just give the guy's waffle.

949
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: And get the Russian get in there?

950
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: What's your French accent?

951
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 2: Do you want to do it?

952
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

953
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: Oh but what if it's bad now, like it could

954
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: be rusted.

955
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: So it's been a while huh No.

956
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: I actually I think I did it the other day

957
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 2: and get it right. Okay. It's like when you like

958
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: took in the French accent, like there's a lot of

959
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: like clasp and like I don't know, I don't know.

960
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: That's the gist of it though.

961
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: So that was the embarrassment thing part of the act

962
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: there or yeah.

963
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: Like I would post like, yeah, it was part of it.

964
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: So you would act French.

965
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 2: I would act French the whole clip.

966
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: You wouldn't come out of character. No, so they would

967
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: think you were a French girl.

968
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: Yes. The comments were like she's like, she's not French,

969
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: she's British, Like look at two videos before and then

970
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: some people were like, no, that accent's fake, she is French.

971
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: What inspired you to do those videos?

972
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh I just started doing them. I

973
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: don't know what the thought was.

974
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: What other accent you got in there?

975
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: There was a British accent that was not bad, but

976
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: that one's rusty Australian, like I could do like an

977
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: Australian accent, like you can just like fall into the

978
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: Australian accent. Yeah, let's go No, that was the Australian accent.

979
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: It's just did it Australian as.

980
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: If you can you can hear the Australian. I mean,

981
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 2: you can hear the Australian accent, but it's subtle, which

982
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: is why I think maybe people believed it.

983
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to France?

984
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

985
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: I went to Paris and I tried to speak French

986
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: and they said, don't do that, we know English.

987
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: I tried, do you have any do you have anything?

988
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like any French?

989
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: Sure?

990
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Uh uh, Bobby, But I would do a lot of

991
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: like uh, I studied French in college, but I never

992
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: went to France. Because I studied French, we had to

993
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: take a four language.

994
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: It was loose, so you loosely studied.

995
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: It was the only sea I ever got in my

996
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: entire schoolastic career.

997
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 2: It's such a hard it honestly is so hard. Like

998
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: I tried to do a lingo French for a second

999
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 2: impossible language to learn.

1000
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I had a friend that was due a lingoing Mandarin.

1001
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Oh dude, don't even I that is like god.

1002
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: I struggled with French, and all my friends, at least

1003
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: for a long part of my life were Hispanic or Mexicans,

1004
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: so I know when they're talking about me and Spanish bad,

1005
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: but I don't do it well. So like, I know,

1006
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: I can hear some Spanish. I can speak like seven

1007
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: French words, and I tried it and it was so bad.

1008
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: When I was in Paris, they said, dude, we got you.

1009
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: We know English stop and then others. Yeah, other than that,

1010
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: like I got. I went to Japan and I did uhmoshi,

1011
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: I know like two things.

1012
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

1013
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: I think that means hello. I don't remember anymore, Mike,

1014
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: we do what mos means? I might just know that

1015
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: from Full House though too.

1016
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: You know, I did, like but I never was like

1017
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: an avid watcher of it, were.

1018
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: You, Mooshi? I think Michelle Tanner had I think Michelle

1019
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Tanner had a uh somebody that she was talking to

1020
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: because she just dialed a number by accident, and they

1021
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: were calling each other back and forth, and they were

1022
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: wondering why Michelle the baby would always say things in

1023
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Japanese like mos moshi, and they were like, how does

1024
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: she know Japanese? And it turns out it was like

1025
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: somebody that she was calling in Japan.

1026
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 2: Damn, I know, and that's how you learned. So that's

1027
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: like educational, I think.

1028
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: So what do you got, Mike, Yeah, Moshi Moshi is hello, Moshimoshi.

1029
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: Wow.

1030
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my language.

1031
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: Damn, I know.

1032
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 1: You know, and now you know.

1033
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: And now I know I'm going to use that. I'm

1034
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: going to say that.

1035
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: Boston it's I mean, it's killing. I saw it first

1036
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: from Gary Levox. Yes, who's a friend of mine. So

1037
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: if following I love him and I love him. I

1038
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: don't know him.

1039
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: I actually don't know him. I've never met him, but

1040
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: like you, I saw him obviously singing Boston on and

1041
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: I was like, this is epic. Like I was singing

1042
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: Blessed the Broken Road all the time.

1043
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: It was on a boat, yeah, and he was singing

1044
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: the song and I was like, that's a good song.

1045
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: I didn't know what he was singing. I thought he

1046
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: may have been singing like a song that he was doing,

1047
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: and then I heard a couple of places and I

1048
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that song's really good. You never right,

1049
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: Garry of the Box No, because that's how I discovered yours.

1050
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I wonder if I FaceTime him. Let me just see

1051
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: if he knows. Oh my god, let me just see

1052
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: if he's even that'd be funny. Though if he did answer,

1053
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: let's see.

1054
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: I'm scared. I love that you thought it was his

1055
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: song though he can have it.

1056
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: The phone is so close to my face right now

1057
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: on FaceTime, and if he can, you hear that ring

1058
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: of Mike.

1059
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't answer, he's.

1060
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: Not gonna answer. Now he's drunk in a tree stand.

1061
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: I'll leave him one of those Oh my god, one

1062
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 2: of the messages.

1063
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, video messages. Yeah, three times is gonna ring. Okay,

1064
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: let's record video. Let make sure I look good here,

1065
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: Hey body, Bobby here, was just talking about you because

1066
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: I was talking about the first time that ever heard

1067
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: Stella Lefty's song Boston was you, I think, singing it

1068
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: on your boat. And I was asking her, do you

1069
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: know she's French by the way she's doing it French?

1070
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: I was asking her if she or just telling her

1071
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: that story, and she was like, I've never met gear

1072
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: of the Box. So anyway, there's there's Stella.

1073
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so nice to meet you over the FaceTime message

1074
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: and so that's all.

1075
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: That's all we were hoping you would answer, okay, bye.

1076
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like what He's gonna watch that later

1077
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: and be like what's happening?

1078
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: You know he went his life once you get really

1079
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: rich and he's really rich, Like I don't even think

1080
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: things are weird anymore ever, it's just everything. Just I

1081
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: think he like choppers out to deer hunt, Like that's

1082
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: how rich he is.

1083
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: He choppers out to deer hunt.

1084
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, like choppers out Like wow, okay, yeah that's the

1085
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: all right, Well, so then.

1086
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: He's gonna take that lightly.

1087
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll take it very I'll take it very lately, casual.

1088
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: That song? Did it blow up on your TikTok virally Boston? Yeah?

1089
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1090
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: Is that where that song started to?

1091
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah? Who every song for me has started?

1092
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Who did you write that one with?

1093
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 2: I wrote that. I wrote the chorus that alone when

1094
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: I was out here, and then I brought it to

1095
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: Grace and Joe, who's like my my producer in Nashville,

1096
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: and then we finished it together.

1097
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: And did you sing just a chorus of it on TikTok?

1098
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: You finished the whole song? Chorst No, Like.

1099
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: On TikTok, the only thing I sang was like the

1100
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: first half of the chorus, so nothing else existed. So

1101
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: by the time the video was doing well, I was like, fuck,

1102
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: there's no song.

1103
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: You have success on an incomplete song.

1104
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Yes, on like one line of a song, And I

1105
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: was like, there's literally no song. And I was like,

1106
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the song is gonna like.

1107
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: I didn't even have an idea of what this verse,

1108
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: like the verse was gonna sound like.

1109
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: Was it just kind of a throwaway when you wrote

1110
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: because it was so limited? So did you just go

1111
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this, put it up for something

1112
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: to post, or did you think I'm gonna do this

1113
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and if it works, I'll continue to grow it.

1114
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't even thinking about I was honestly like

1115
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: I just had a second to kill before I was

1116
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: going on a date and I was like in Nashville

1117
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: to be writing, and I hadn't written anything that day,

1118
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: and so I was like feeling like I needed to

1119
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: be more productive, and so I was like, I'll just

1120
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: sit at the piano and just see like whatever comes out,

1121
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: and then like go on the date and like, you know,

1122
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: do whatever else tomorrow. Like I'm sure I had like

1123
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: a session or whatever it was, but I So I

1124
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about it, like I wasn't thinking about anything.

1125
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: I really just posted the song because I was just

1126
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: in this phase where I was just posting all the time,

1127
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: which is, I guess the phase I'm always in posting

1128
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: all the time.

1129
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: Do you do that now? Still? Do you have time

1130
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: to do that now?

1131
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1132
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: I post all the time, even as busy as it is.

1133
00:47:59,520 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1134
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Is it weird to kill it? Now? What do you

1135
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: mean you're just killing You're killing it, you're selling to

1136
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: kill it? Yeah?

1137
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh I was like kill the song. I was like

1138
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: to get rid of songs? No it is? Is it weird?

1139
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1140
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. It's definitely weird. But I really don't

1141
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 2: now now there's like not so much time to even

1142
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: like think about that, you know. I'm more just like

1143
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: I want to like maintain what I had going on before,

1144
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 2: like the way that I was writing all the time,

1145
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Like I want to just I want to keep that.

1146
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: When you come to town, are you normally jam packedause

1147
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: that you don't live here and you're just getting you

1148
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: got to do like eleven things?

1149
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1150
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: Now has today been a pack day?

1151
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1152
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: Walk me through it?

1153
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: Okay, what did we do?

1154
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Now that's how you know it's packed. What did we do?

1155
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: We It's honestly, it's a lot. It's it's nice like

1156
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: I we go into the we like I've been meeting

1157
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: a bunch of radio Like I've been going to a

1158
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 2: bunch of radio stations, which is really nice. Like I

1159
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: get to meet all these people or see people that

1160
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: I've met, like during CMA Fest to see them again.

1161
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 2: But we did a CMA event for CMA Edu, yeah Cmaduma.

1162
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: But it was awesome, Like there was fifty students there,

1163
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: so I sang for them, which was truly terrifying. Singing

1164
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: for people that are close in age to you is

1165
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: like one of the scariest things in the world because well,

1166
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: it's just like I don't know, like none of us

1167
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: know how to act right now. I don't know how

1168
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: to act. And I know that you don't know how

1169
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: to act, like you know what I mean, because they're

1170
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 2: not gonna like they don't they're not singing back the words.

1171
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: And if they are singing back the words, it's like shy,

1172
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: and then I feel shy because you know, I'm like,

1173
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1174
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's shy. On shy crime that usually on crime

1175
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: usually not good for like performance, no.

1176
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: No, but especially like fifty you know, twenty something year olds.

1177
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: So then how do you get through that? Do you

1178
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: fake it at first and then it catches up to you.

1179
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Meaning yeah, yeah, I definitely but the good like I

1180
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: really I think with these songs, like I truly love

1181
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: these songs, so I don't feel like when I'm singing them,

1182
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: like I wave of happiness doesn't come over me naturally.

1183
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: So then I do end up feeling better, but there's

1184
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: definitely a period where I'm like, oh my god, let's.

1185
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: Take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor

1186
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 3: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1187
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Speaker 1: Do you enjoy performing now? I do, like you found it,

1188
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: it feels it.

1189
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: I do enjoy it, But like I am so nervous

1190
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 2: every time before I get on stage in any setting,

1191
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: like freaking out, and I'm like, I'm not I can't

1192
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: do it. I can't get on the stage.

1193
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: Whenever people come in a lot of times they bring

1194
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: in albums that mean a lot to them. And if

1195
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: you don't mind picking this one up here that you

1196
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: brought in, I'd love for you to tell me why

1197
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: you pick this and what it is and show the

1198
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: camera here. Well, no, you show show. I tell her

1199
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 1: everybody watching on Netflix show show them the album. Yeah yeah,

1200
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: and so talk show tell me what it is and

1201
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: why that album is it?

1202
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Okay, this is really thought out because I am a

1203
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 2: huge Lucombs man and I've been a hugely this is

1204
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: this is for you. This one's for you. Oh, this

1205
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: is for you. This one's for you.

1206
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: You're who's on first in me right now? I don't

1207
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: what what this is for me? This is for me. No,

1208
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what you just said. I don't speak

1209
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: my mumble, but you just said this is for you.

1210
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: But this is for you.

1211
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: No, this is for you. But this one's for you.

1212
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: The album is called this One's for you.

1213
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're there. Now we're there, go ahead. So

1214
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: this one's for you the album. You actually got that

1215
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: for me? That is so nice. Okay, now why did you?

1216
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: This is for you? This one's for you? I okay.

1217
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: So I'm a huge lu Combs fan, and you know,

1218
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: when I was debating on like what album, I felt

1219
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: like had the biggest weight and like it was a

1220
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: no skip album you know, in my life. The first

1221
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 2: thought was like okay, the first Tailor Swift album had

1222
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: a huge impact in my life, Like those were the

1223
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 2: first songs I ever learned how to play, Like that's

1224
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: what made me fall in love with music. But then

1225
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: when I discovered Luke Combs when I was a freshman

1226
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 2: in high school, like my whole every thing was changed.

1227
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: Like I only listened to this album, every single song

1228
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: on this album, probably every single day for four years

1229
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: driving to school. And they are some of the best

1230
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: songs that have ever been written. So I felt like,

1231
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: maybe you wouldn't want to drive.

1232
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: I've not heard of that guy, so tell me more.

1233
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: What's his name?

1234
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: Lucas What Lucas Combs? Lucas Lucas Combs. Yeah, he's really

1235
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: nat Have you met Luke? No, I would not be

1236
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: cool about meeting him.

1237
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: You would because he's so nice.

1238
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: No, you don't understand though, like she got the best

1239
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: of me. Would be screened like these songs, Like I

1240
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: don't like my high school experience doesn't exist without this

1241
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: album truly, So I wouldn't be cool. There would be

1242
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: zero chill. Maybe I'd cry about it.

1243
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Who have you met here?

1244
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: Lane Wilson?

1245
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: So nice?

1246
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: So nice?

1247
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: I can tell you a story about Lanny please whenever. Way,

1248
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: this is six or seven years ago. Laney was just

1249
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: dancing in a video and you remember the song going

1250
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: to do the two yeah course, and so that song

1251
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: was kind of doing its thing, and I was like,

1252
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna learn the dance and do a video for

1253
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: it and so, but Lanny wasn't an artist that had

1254
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: any music out. She was just doing the dance with him.

1255
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: And so I text Lane and I was I was like, hey,

1256
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: will you teach me how to do this dance and

1257
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: you could be in the video. And she's like, yeah,

1258
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: come over. So she came over and taught me how

1259
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: to do that. There's nothing she was that Laney Wilson.

1260
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: She was just Laney who was in the video doing

1261
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: the dance. And she came over and I said, you

1262
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: want to you can get in the video. She goes,

1263
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: nobody wants me in this video, Like you just do

1264
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: it and get your views. I don't want to ruin it.

1265
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: Everybody wants you in this video.

1266
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: What But that was just like she was just like

1267
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: normal and nice and she's awesome.

1268
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: She's awesome. Yes, she's like the kindest, warmest person on

1269
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: the planet. You had a good experience with her the best,

1270
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: like truly the best, because I'm I got I've like

1271
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: seen her twice because I saw her during CMA Fest,

1272
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 2: which and she's also like the coolest looking, like she

1273
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 2: just walks in the room and you're just like, oh

1274
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: my god, like you are so cool. What the fuck?

1275
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: I keep swearing, I'm sorry.

1276
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there aren't cops outside.

1277
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: You're good, I know, but I feel bad like you're not.

1278
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: It's just me doing it, that's true, but I.

1279
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: Know like I'm alone in it. I'm done doing it.

1280
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: It feel like you're trying to give me new drugs,

1281
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: Like I just to take it. I don't want to

1282
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: do this alone.

1283
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: I don't want to be alone. We also have you

1284
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: met Kelsey Ballerini. He was so sweet and awesome. Who

1285
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: else I met? M Dan and Shay I love them.

1286
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: We got to sing together doing c A Fest, which

1287
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: was awesome.

1288
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: Did they came out and did your song right? No?

1289
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: We sing Tequila's we sing their song which was I.

1290
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: Saw them come out with you? Was it at CMA

1291
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Fest like it was at the Billboard.

1292
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 2: It was like there was a Billboard like show and

1293
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 2: it was. It was awesome.

1294
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: They're really good Shake Shake and sing, it's wild.

1295
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: He's pitch, he's perfect pitch.

1296
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: It's and they are together because they are like in

1297
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: my class, meaning we came to town at the same time.

1298
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: This town's like that, Like whoever you came to town

1299
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: with you in your grade, it's like that. Yeah, and

1300
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: so known them forever and they are perfect together because

1301
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: dan Is O. C d Is a great producer. It

1302
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 1: wakes up exactly on time, goes to bed on time,

1303
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: and then shay oh, exact opposite.

1304
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, like you need fund, you need that.

1305
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: They found their other anybody else you met the school.

1306
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: Vincent?

1307
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, I really like him. I don't know if

1308
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: you told him you were coming.

1309
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 2: To I did. I really he likes you too.

1310
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I like it. I don't like a lot

1311
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: of I don't dislike a lot of people's music. But

1312
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm I just live in it. I'm jaded.

1313
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: It's just do you hate my music?

1314
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: No? I don't know. Why would I? No, I don't know.

1315
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to get it's hard to get in this room.

1316
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: And I like your music. And so I was like, hey,

1317
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 1: when she's in town, like I will, I don't usually

1318
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: do this this late?

1319
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1320
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: No, I mean no, I'm a fan. All that to say,

1321
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. So no, I do like your music,

1322
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're you mentioned your boyfriend. I was just

1323
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna not bring I'm sure that gets brought up everywhere,

1324
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: so wasn't.

1325
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 2: But I appreciate it.

1326
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: But I love him. He's and I love his music

1327
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: the best, truly like that. His music is my vibe.

1328
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: Do you like John Mayer like my favorite arts of

1329
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: all time?

1330
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: Right? And you like Kasey Musgraves like these are.

1331
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: Like my people like Counting Crows.

1332
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I love Counting Crows.

1333
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: No, you don't.

1334
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: I do lit songs.

1335
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: You don't know accounting put up a.

1336
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 2: Parking lot, don't it? Always see the girls?

1337
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you're saying. That's not what it's called.

1338
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I know what it's called.

1339
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 2: It is called hold on a second. Wait? Was that

1340
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: originally Joni Mitchell song?

1341
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I give you credit back? You just want no.

1342
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 2: No, I know that it's originally. I know that it's

1343
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: a cover, but that was a huge thing like Rascal

1344
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: Flats Blessed Spoken Roads also a cover.

1345
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: If that's true, that's true. You just taught me something.

1346
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: It's true, and I found out like a month ago.

1347
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: It's true.

1348
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: So Big Yellow Tax is a song and it's Jonny

1349
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: Mitchell song. But you knew that, so I'm not even

1350
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: to give you a crap about that.

1351
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 2: Do you love Johnny Mitchell?

1352
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: Do you ever see her play like the sittart that thinks.

1353
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 2: When she sings California? Yeah?

1354
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: You ever see Amanda Syfree do that on Jimmy Fallon?

1355
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: Yes, that was like the most viral thing in the world.

1356
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: I was like, what's happening right now that I.

1357
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: Wanted that to come out? I wish you would have

1358
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: released that.

1359
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: I met her once. Really, she was really nice.

1360
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: She seems really nice.

1361
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: You never know about actors though, Sometimes it's just the roles.

1362
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: I know, like, how can you tell because they right,

1363
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 2: Like that's a confusing thing to like date. I feel

1364
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: like to date an actor like that might be scary,

1365
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: like they can lie.

1366
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: That's committing to the role, you know what I mean?

1367
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

1368
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was really nice though. I bet anyway, your

1369
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: your your boyfriend is Vinson? Yeah, and he's you can say, yeah,

1370
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: I really like him. I really like his music. His

1371
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: music is my vibe as well. So not only is

1372
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: he really talented, but like I would like I listened

1373
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: to that music whenever I'm just like by myself. How'd

1374
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: you guys meet he?

1375
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: DM me on Instagram?

1376
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do one hundred and twenty seconds

1377
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: of us talking about this because I was not gonna

1378
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: make this about this, but you open the door. Let's

1379
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: do open the door one hundred and twenty seconds. Ready, Okay, yeah,

1380
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm ready, starts timer. How'd you meet him?

1381
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: I met him via DM DM me?

1382
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: What was his DM?

1383
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: He said he liked thinking about you when I was

1384
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: teasing it, so he sent me the song.

1385
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: Did he really like that song? Or was he just

1386
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: trying to use that to get to you?

1387
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: He says, he really liked the song, But what do

1388
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: you believe? Well, I actually he was in a really

1389
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 2: weird I don't think he was like looking for love.

1390
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that he.

1391
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Was a classic line no way.

1392
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wasn't looking hard to get Yeah yeah, no,

1393
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 2: but that's what he said. So, you know, I don't

1394
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 2: know first date. Oh what was it? Oh my god,

1395
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: I don't know the name of the restaurant. But we

1396
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: went to go eat steak here? Yes?

1397
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: Has does he fly out to California?

1398
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's in La a lot.

1399
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: Do you come here a lot to see him? How

1400
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: long he has been dating?

1401
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: Like?

1402
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: Six months? Five months?

1403
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: What's your favorite song of his?

1404
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: Ooh, Speak of the Devil?

1405
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: Does he have any songs about you?

1406
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:01,919
Speaker 2: No?

1407
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: Does that hurt your feelings?

1408
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: Yes?

1409
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Okay, that's enough. That's enough on him. That's a good one.

1410
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: Good run there. This is fun. I didn't know what.

1411
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to expect with you. Honestly, really,

1412
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know you would. Okay, do you want to

1413
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: play the game?

1414
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? What did you think?

1415
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: Honest game? Or no?

1416
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want honest game. I don't need to lie

1417
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: to me. Then I then you'd be an actor.

1418
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 1: You just never know.

1419
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: You thought it was gonna suck.

1420
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: No, I just didn't know if you were going to suck.

1421
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: There's a difference.

1422
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: But do you think I look like I suck? No?

1423
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,479
Speaker 1: But and I'm going to tell you why I thought

1424
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: you might suck, even though you look like you didn't suck,

1425
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: because you have just from what I've seen of you,

1426
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: you seem very approachable and likable, And it might be

1427
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. Yeah, because that happens. It's not though like

1428
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: you're very warm. You're very warm, You're very so I

1429
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: didn't know that. And also you don't live here, so

1430
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of references where I can be

1431
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: like does she suck? Right, because sometimes it'll happen and

1432
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: I'll go, hey does this person suck? And they're like yeah,

1433
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ad rather not because I don't want

1434
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: to not like somebody. I'd rather just not know. And

1435
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: then yeah, who knows? So I didn't know. But yeah,

1436
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: you're awesome. I'm rooting for you.

1437
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: How are you?

1438
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm okay, No, you're great, I'm okay. You just dependentally

1439
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: you talk to I have too many opinions?

1440
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: Are people saying things around about you?

1441
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: Saying have said, I've been in this town way too long.

1442
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: If you have opinion, it's scary. Do you have opinions

1443
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: in this town? Eventually those opinions make somebody mad and

1444
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: I have had a lot of them, and I think

1445
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm good hearted. But I also don't get out at all.

1446
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: I'm so introverted, Like you don't go out, like I

1447
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: don't do anything.

1448
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: What's your favorite thing to do?

1449
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Stay home and do what though? Be in the walls,

1450
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: inside the walls, that's my favorite thing to watching something.

1451
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: You're just like sitting on your bed like.

1452
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: We had a baby four months ago.

1453
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: Oh, congratulations, that's crazy. That is crazy. I'm sure. I

1454
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 2: don't know, but is it like I'm sure your life

1455
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 2: has changed forever. That's such a stupid thing to say, like,

1456
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: obviously your life has.

1457
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: Changed, It's crazy. All I would do is I would work,

1458
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: and then when I was touring a lot, I would

1459
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: just work Monday through Thursday, get on a plane, come

1460
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: back Sunday, work do And then I just also realized

1461
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to be friends with a lot of

1462
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: artists because then I couldn't talk freely and openly. Not badly,

1463
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 1: that's different, but to have like honest opinions about things, Yeah,

1464
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: because it doesn't go well in this town whenever you

1465
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: don't flow with the system. I think it's cool that

1466
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: you don't live here right now. I think eventually you'll

1467
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: move here. But I think it's cool right now you

1468
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: don't live here. Do you think you'll move here?

1469
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean not, I mean maybe in the next like

1470
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: three to four years. I love like I think that

1471
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 2: like light, like people's lifestyles are better out here than

1472
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: they are in LA Like you just the work life

1473
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: balance is like everything out here.

1474
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, you're also going to be moving around so

1475
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: much and traveling so much. It's gonna be hard for

1476
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: you to have a home.

1477
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 2: I know. But I feel more at home here than

1478
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: in La, Like I feel more myself when I'm here,

1479
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: for sure. But I'm happy. What do you have? A

1480
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: baby boy or baby girl?

1481
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: A girl?

1482
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: What's her name?

1483
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: Billy Billy?

1484
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: That's really cute. She's four months old?

1485
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: Whoa, yeah, tell me about it.

1486
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: She brought her here, she is.

1487
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: She's actually behind the couch. She's really quiet, She's laying

1488
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: behind the fan.

1489
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: So Billy Billy Bones.

1490
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: Dude, my wife, no, I know I have to say

1491
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 1: that's not her name.

1492
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: But because a point of contention for you guys.

1493
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: Well, my wife is like my name not Bones. She's

1494
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: not part she My wife doesn't play the game. She

1495
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a public figure. She she didn't

1496
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: have fake name. My real last name is Estell. And

1497
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: so she's like, I'm Caitlin Estell. I'm not Caitlin Bones.

1498
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: Great name, Caitlyn Estell, great name.

1499
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: What about Bobby still.

1500
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: But Bobby Bones sound like you just it sounds so cool,

1501
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: Billy Bones. I like, wonder if that's gonna happen, Like

1502
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: people are gonna call her that.

1503
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: I think I will be so washed by the time

1504
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: she gets to be old enough that it won't even

1505
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: be a thing. I've had my run, Like I'm still

1506
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: up at the top right now.

1507
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 2: But I have you know, I mean, I know you've

1508
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: had your run, but like you can have an eternal run.

1509
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be washed, and then you want to be

1510
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: by the time you move here, I'm washed three years. Yeah, yeah,

1511
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: this is.

1512
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 2: The last do you want to be?

1513
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 1: Like, No, I've I've shifted and pivoted and done everything

1514
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: and it's been great. And but I'll be your dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1515
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: it's awesome. Yeah, Okay, this has been fine. I hope

1516
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: you had.

1517
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: Fine cool did you?

1518
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah I did. I did the answers. The answer

1519
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: is yes, I did have fun, but coming into it

1520
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: I did not know. So I'm just I was just

1521
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: a little apprehensive about Oh great, here we go somebody

1522
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: that's young and now she's hitting and is she going

1523
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: to be actually cool? If fate cool? You're cool, You're

1524
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: real cool.

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01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 2: Thanks.

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01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're cool too, Thanks. Thanks. All right,

1527
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: that'll be that's it. That's it. That's it. Uh, Stelle Lefty,

1528
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: tell your boyfriend. I said, what up? I'm a big fan.

1529
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: He knows that. I tell him. I love him. He's awesome.

1530
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 1: Do you guys you guys do stuff together sometimes?

1531
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, like like hang out?

1532
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: No no, no, like like no, I know you do

1533
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: stuff together. I'm saying, like you guys have done like

1534
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: interviews and stuff together.

1535
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well we have a song. We have a song together,

1536
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: so we do interview on his on whose record? Well,

1537
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: technically it's both, it's both of ours, but it came

1538
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: out on my like it's on my EP that I

1539
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: put out, got it, So it's both of our songs,

1540
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: but we had to sing the other, which is so fun.

1541
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: You have to do with him?

1542
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: Well, tell him, I said, hi, And you're awesome and

1543
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: I can't wait to, you know, see what's happening with

1544
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: your career. I'm going for you.

1545
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: I was kind of I know, I'm really glad that

1546
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 2: you were honest about that about what well you were like,

1547
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't know what you were going to

1548
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 2: be like, and you were you were apprehensive. Is that

1549
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: the word apprehensive?

1550
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: But it wasn't about It's just the nature of this town.

1551
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: But this is also why people don't like me, because

1552
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: I say stuff like that at.

1553
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 2: Times, but the honesty is really refreshing.

1554
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 1: Actually, like you know, who sucks. I'm just kidding. I'm

1555
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna say anybody, Okay, great to see you. We did it.

1556
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: We did our uh stella Lefty. I'm a big fan,

1557
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: and next time we'll do this again.

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01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me, Thanks for listening to a

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Speaker 3: Bobby Cast production.