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Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. Merelebo, the Great Z

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Speaker 1: and Luminaries. Right out of the bagel, A debut, a debut.

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Speaker 1: Assistant General Manager VP of Football Operations Katherine Race joins us. Welcome,

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Speaker 1: good to see you, Hi, Thanks for having me. How

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Speaker 1: is as this week gets going? And we talked to

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Speaker 1: Glenn yesterday, talked to a b yesterday, like all of

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Speaker 1: the work and then this is just one more piece

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Speaker 1: of it for you guys. This is your first one

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Speaker 1: with the Browns over here. What's it been like early

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Speaker 1: on here in the week, It's been great. Um, as

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Speaker 1: you said, it's an opportunity for us to gather information, complete,

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Speaker 1: you know, get more pieces to our puzzle. UM. So

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Speaker 1: it's just really a continuity getting our first look on

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Speaker 1: these prospects live. So that's that's always a good thing,

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Speaker 1: getting medical information, you know, interview time, and then seeing

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Speaker 1: them on the field. So so far has been great.

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Speaker 1: Then I'm looking forward to the rest of the week.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's just gotta getta give a background. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he tell people of your journey, I mean from the

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Speaker 1: people through your path and and what sparked in you

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Speaker 1: from Montreal, Quebec, French Canadian. So I'm sure everyone's asking, like,

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Speaker 1: why not hockey. We were a football family, That's who

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Speaker 1: got my first opportunity with them. I was a lawyer

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Speaker 1: So I had my first shot with Jim Pop when

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Speaker 1: where I got to meet Mark Trustman because Mark and

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Speaker 1: and then Howie Rosman called and offered me an entry

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Speaker 1: level position um IT at the Eagles. UM jump on

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Speaker 1: the opportunity, and that's where Andrew barrym was my direct supervisor.

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Speaker 1: That's where Andrew and I met and build a really

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Speaker 1: good relationship. And then when this opportunity came with the Browns,

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Speaker 1: I mean this is over at six incredible, incredible ascent

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Speaker 1: Katherine Raish, you know you mentioned you were up football

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Speaker 1: It feels like birds are pretty lawless. Yeah. Um, So

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Speaker 1: I was up swimming upstream some a little bit of

425
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Speaker 1: sidewalk action, not sure if I should be paused in

426
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Speaker 1: the street on red lights or if I should blow

427
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Speaker 1: to the right. Feels like you go through them then

428
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna have to park it on

429
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Speaker 1: a sidewalk that they can't be on a sidewalk. So

430
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: like that was it, um, and I came away. I

431
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Speaker 1: got to the hotel, and I really came away amazed that, like,

432
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Speaker 1: somebody doesn't die every day on a bird. Yeah, I

433
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Speaker 1: think it's amazing that it happens. I'm shocked at how

434
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Speaker 1: fast they go. Yeah, like it's stunning. Well, I think

435
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Speaker 1: there are people that maybe would be more weeblewobble who

436
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Speaker 1: have opted out of the bird life, like Gibbe, Yeah, Gibe,

437
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not getting in that bird I'm not

438
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Speaker 1: playing that bird game. I think that makes a lot

439
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Speaker 1: of sense. But it was. But anyway, so that was,

440
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: and we did the Butler game last night, which is

441
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: we had a great time. Yeah, thank you for that

442
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: to go check out Butler Marquette, thank you, Yeah, but

443
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,719
Speaker 1: thank fantastic, fantastic venue for hoops. Had a great mealitarian Izzy's.

444
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: I came away with um. Ever, after having the shrimp cocktail,

445
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Speaker 1: which you know you have to win in Rome, you

446
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: got to get it. Um. I'm really now curious as

447
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Speaker 1: to how they made it a thing because it's really

448
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: just ultra hot horse Radish cocktail sauce, which of it

449
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: with just it's just ensconce and like how did they decide,

450
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: like how did the word of mouth get to the

451
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Speaker 1: point where it was like you have to have this here.

452
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: It could be recreated literally anywhere for sure, but it

453
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Speaker 1: isn't but it's not, and like they're the ones, and

454
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Speaker 1: then it was amazing. She actually, I've never had this.

455
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Speaker 1: I've had it many times. Um, that's the first time

456
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Speaker 1: I've ever been served with a saltine. The heat. I

457
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Speaker 1: did like that. She also said, she's like, I'm not

458
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Speaker 1: going to tell you how hot it is because I

459
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Speaker 1: don't want to ruin it. Like She's like, I make

460
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Speaker 1: if people want to get somebody, she's not gonna get

461
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Speaker 1: in their way. Yeah. So she did that, and then

462
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Speaker 1: I had I had never had like their signature cocktail.

463
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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about putting. I'm not a

464
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Speaker 1: mixer guy, but it's at all But I would tell

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Speaker 1: you that even before they poured the coke on top

466
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Speaker 1: of the old Fashioned, that that the old Fashioned, their

467
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Speaker 1: household fashion, was a delightful treat. You can buy it. Yeah. Yeah,

468
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: so it was good. It was good. The foisting was

469
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Speaker 1: just the sad part. It was a sad end to

470
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Speaker 1: an otherwise phenomenal evening. I will say that in Gibbe's defense,

471
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Speaker 1: and I don't defend him much, but in his defense,

472
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Speaker 1: there is a point with you when your enthusiasm for

473
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Speaker 1: life takes over and it cannot be quelched by anyone.

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Speaker 1: I've many times had to tell you I got I'm done,

475
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Speaker 1: and then you're right into the enthusiasm, right back at it.

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Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't. I don't want to. I would never,

477
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Speaker 1: But I can sense that maybe Gibbey was like, if

478
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Speaker 1: I go in there, I'm never going to get out

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Speaker 1: of there, and then it's going to become a very

480
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Speaker 1: and then a long day. Then it's a different day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I end up in urgent care. You can't have that

482
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Speaker 1: type of stuff. You gotta be care. I love this painting.

483
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Speaker 1: By the way, you're distracted, find my zest. That's it

484
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Speaker 1: wasn't negative on you. It was simply a little olive branch.

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Speaker 1: To Gibbe, I'm going to ask you a fully enthusised

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Speaker 1: it's a girl. Ensconstant enthusiasm is a girl. This is

487
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Speaker 1: a girl, a force a nature. Yeah, and especially a cocktailer. Two.

488
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Speaker 1: Then there's a whole other level. I mean, you just

489
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Speaker 1: said you could run forever forever, like that's the way

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Speaker 1: that you attack socializing. Thank you. I appreciate I like

491
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Speaker 1: all of those comments. Yeah, and don't mean it is

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Speaker 1: now very good. The one question I have for gibbe, though,

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Speaker 1: can I just yeah, this is the closure that I read.

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00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: Had there not been a foisting situation, sure, would you

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Speaker 1: have agreed to like just take a couple steps in

496
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Speaker 1: and look around. No? I literally, I'm like, I'm going

497
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: to that bar and walking around in a circle and

498
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm leaving. So here's the weird part. We were we

499
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Speaker 1: were prime and I said, evn two beers had two

500
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: bud lights, and I'm like, I'm out. I'm like, here's

501
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: the here's the only part that's weird. Just the bars

502
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: are at opposite ends of the JW. He made the

503
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Speaker 1: trek all the way over to the mouth of High Velocity.

504
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: But that's only once, only once the foist situation presented itself.

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Speaker 1: Did he ghost? No, you're making a separate accusation. Yeah,

506
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: accusation No. No, I'll accept that you did alert to

507
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Speaker 1: the fact that you may be departing. I will not.

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00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: I will not had had different You're choosing your words

509
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: right now. Had others shown ably, had others shown up,

510
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I think you could have been you could have stayed.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. If there was I was the

512
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: problem here is there's no way to prove this. I

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Speaker 1: know les tonight. I knew, oh tonight, all right, we'll

514
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Speaker 1: see like I might be packed tonight before I even

515
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Speaker 1: go out because I know. Let me tell you, tonight's gone.

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Speaker 1: It's the person that if the people, because there are multiple,

517
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Speaker 1: but if the people that bumped into us, if Tequila

518
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Speaker 1: Fila was leading that party, teuil back for with zest,

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Speaker 1: you would havebsessed up for that's our coach to fanskis pressure. Yeah,

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00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: that's that's true. All right, foist the foist did. Yeah, Okay,

521
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: there you go. Well look so we got that taken

522
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Speaker 1: care of. Yeah, we've got the business of the day

523
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Speaker 1: that we're gonna do coming up next. That's right. You

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Speaker 1: listen to Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Baally Back,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Bally Bett coming soon to Ohio

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Speaker 1: are continuing to broadcast live here from the NFL scouting

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Speaker 1: Combrine coach to Fanski, what's heat? Is he noon at

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Speaker 1: the podium? Is that the plan? Gibbe, Well, it's one

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Speaker 1: thirty six, so he'd be an hour and a half late.

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00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm sorry. One five is what we're expecting.

536
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: He may be a little early, in which case we

537
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: will drop out of our conversation and drop right into his. Okay,

538
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: so dautiful is it? But is it a hard too

539
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: that he's got to be at or he can pop

540
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: in whenever he needs? Uh? He will Uh No, No,

541
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Speaker 1: he's talking at the podium one forty five. Then he'll

542
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: meet with the local writers, our beat, and then he

543
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: will come to us. I would say two fifteen to

544
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: thirty for coach, we've kind of blocked out everything, and

545
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: should we since they will answer, they will go through.

546
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if we should just have a nonsense interview.

547
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that where we just do

548
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: nonsense with him? I mean you can't still answer everything else.

549
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Maybe we don't ask anything about the Browns. That seemed

550
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: fair fine, fine, it's fine. I mean, we we are

551
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: right where we need to be. We are probably are

552
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: wanting to be real honest with you, I think it's

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00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: it's on the TV. He was on the tell. It

554
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: seemed impossible. Um the uh, I think that we are.

555
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: This is easily our best location ever ever from the Combine.

556
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: I would like it every year. I want this setup,

557
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: this runway. So you're coming back nice, well nice through

558
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Speaker 1: you No no in um no. It feels like that's

559
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: a pretty cool thing right there. So that's DeVico. Ryan's

560
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: talking to the general of course, mister McClean. And you

561
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: say to yourself, like, think about the how that all went.

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00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: This is a beautiful thing that happens at the Combine.

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00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: So McClean has been in he's the longest running NFL

564
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Speaker 1: writer there is, right, he's the guy. He's really not

565
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Speaker 1: retired like you. Well, I think you for him. The

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Speaker 1: action is the Jews R. So I love that, you know,

567
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: that's the that's the deal. So I think with So

568
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: here's Demiko Ryans who played for the Texans and is

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00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: now the hit and is now talking to John McLean,

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00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: who covered it and who's been there forever. I mean,

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00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: that's it's pretty sweet. That's cool, that's great. I like that.

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00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: I like that. Um, lots of news at the Combine

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: Um and a restaurant has been issued was issued this

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00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: morning in Georgia for potential. Well he's not going number one,

575
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: but he's going to the top five. Jalen Carter reckless

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: driving and racing semming from a January fifteenth crash that

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Speaker 1: took the life of a teammates staffer for the Athens

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Speaker 1: Clark County Police Department. Carter allegedly misled police, first telling

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Speaker 1: him he was a mile away when the fatal crash happened,

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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: then saying he was behind the other vehicle could see

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Speaker 1: the tail lights, and then saying he was alongside the

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00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: car when it crash, per the Atlanta Journal Constitution. So

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Speaker 1: the one thing like when this first happened, he was

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00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: always in he was always questioned involved in this. I

585
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: don't know why this all spilled. I guess it's spilled

586
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: out today because the rest want But this has been there,

587
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: This part's been out there for a long time that

588
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: he was involved in and it was a drag racing situation,

589
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: is what police are alleging. And I have a statement

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00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: from jail Harder being a big bee for you. There

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00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: you go. This morning, I received a telephone call from

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00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: the Athens, Georgia Police Department and for me that two

593
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: misdemeanor warrants had been issued against me for reckless driving

594
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: and racing. Numerous media reports also have circulated this morning

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00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: containing inaccurate information concerning the tragic events of January fifteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. It is my intention to return to

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00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Athens to answer the misdemeanor charges against me, and to

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00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: make certain that the complete and accurate truth is presented.

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00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: There's no question in my mind that when all of

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Speaker 1: the facts are known, that I will be fully exonerated

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00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: of any criminal wrongdoing. Jalen Carter there you go and

602
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: apparently left last night. Um so there was a lot

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Speaker 1: of people huddled around his podium this morning at ten

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Speaker 1: thirty and that, yes, that was was never going to

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Speaker 1: come to fruition. But here, so, here is the problem.

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Speaker 1: I understand what he's saying. The you know, the facts

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00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: will play themselves out. Are the facts going to play

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00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: themselves out before draft weekend? Well? It's is there still?

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Speaker 1: Even so? I think one of the things that was

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Speaker 1: circular and this morning was, you know, it's one of

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00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: those things where sometimes we don't read and I saw

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00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people this morning being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: he was driving the car that killed these No, no,

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00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, that was never it ever. Um So

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Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. I don't. I'd be shocked

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00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: if this impacted his standing in any way at all. Right,

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Speaker 1: And I think that was You're exactly right. This is

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00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: These are two misdemeanors. It's not being said implicated or

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Speaker 1: in any way. But it did feel like people were saying, oh,

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00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: he was involved in the Yeah, like had bore responsibility

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Speaker 1: for the rightcome, which is not what at least as

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Speaker 1: of we understand it is being alleged. No, So if that,

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Speaker 1: and in that being said, I don't think that does

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00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: impact his draft standing at all. Yeah. This is really

625
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: I think the overwhelming. I think the most interesting thing

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00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: that was said yesterday by someone in the league, and

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00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: it was really the tone was Duke Tobin, the player

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00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: personnel the Bengals. I loved it too, quite emphatic shutting

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Speaker 1: down any sort of te Higgins rumors this offseason. During

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Speaker 1: his press conference, Tobin said, if they want a receiver,

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Speaker 1: go find your own. In my opinion, te Higgins is

632
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: a good piece for the Cincinnati Bengals. This trade stuff

633
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Speaker 1: is a little ridiculous right now. Zach Taylor laughed it

634
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: off as well, like they're not having it there. They

635
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: are a chesty Bengals. So the reason that you were

636
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: even at this point, right is that people know that

637
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: the Bengals are going to have to pay Joe Burrow,

638
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: they are going to have to pay hey, Jamar Chase,

639
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to pay both of them huge

640
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: amounts of money, that's right. And so the thinking was

641
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to also afford to

642
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: pay Tee Higgins his market value. It's up coach. Oh yeah,

643
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: the old squirrel. So where it all began, that's right,

644
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: first year. So they people assume, well, maybe they'll just

645
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: trade him because they're not gonna be able to afford him. Well,

646
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: they're saying the time for that decision isn't now for us.

647
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: We can afford him just fine right now, and yeah,

648
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. Yeah, I think them for

649
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: some reason there, people were under them. There was like

650
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: this belief that they had that he could walk and

651
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: like he's he's under contract, like he's and by the way,

652
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: they are in a position to win the Super Bowl. Yeah,

653
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: and if you take him, why would you change that?

654
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: You what you played in the Super Bowl two years ago,

655
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game this year? Like who you can't worry

656
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: about five years from now when you're in a position

657
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl. You worry about right now.

658
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, is Burrows right. As long as

659
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: they have Burrow, they're in a window, so that that

660
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: part doesn't really change. Ye. In terms of other news,

661
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of interesting stuff at a

662
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: Seattle about it. There was talk that maybe they would

663
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: be thinking quarterback at five. One of the things that's

664
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: really going around this morning was the position the Bears

665
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: are in for a potential double trade where they would

666
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: trade with Houston to go up to one and then

667
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: trade from two to four to take with Indie and

668
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 1: get a haul and get a haul and get the best.

669
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Well Carter or will Anderson one or the other on

670
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: that front, do we have coach at the podium, all right?

671
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: So he's walking up close. We'll have coach at the

672
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: podium here. Momentarily he's going to meet with the assembled media.

673
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: So this would be local and national media on coach

674
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: Tofansky and they would and here we go here's coach Dafansky. Okay,

675
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: good to see you guys. Excited to be here in Indy.

676
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: You know, this is an important times, as you know,

677
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: with the player evaluation acquisition period, this is an important

678
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: step to get to know these guys. So we're doing

679
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: that in the interviews. We're doing that medically, you know,

680
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: with all these appointments they have with the doctors, so

681
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: it is important. So the coaches are working very hard

682
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: to spend some time with our these players here, but

683
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 1: excited about where we are and happy to talk about

684
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: some of the things that are going on, including you know,

685
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: being able to announce our staff a couple of days ago,

686
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: which is an exciting time for us, and it was

687
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: a lot of work, but proud of the group they

688
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: were able to put together. So without I'll take any questions, Well,

689
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: I think we're very fortunate to be able to play

690
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: in that game. I think it's an unbelievable honor to do.

691
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: So it gives us an opportunity to celebrate Joe's career.

692
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: So that part we're excited about heading down there camp

693
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: and I've done it before when I was with the Vikings.

694
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: So what we'll do, Tony is we'll move our We'll

695
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: end our offseason program a week early in June and

696
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 1: then go back about a week early in July. So

697
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: we'll start a little bit earlier and then get the

698
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: team ready for the season. Even to get guy. Yeah,

699
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: Jim's great. Jim's uh you know, spend a ton of

700
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: time with him and his offices right next door, so

701
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: we spent some early time together in the morning. Uh.

702
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, Jim sharp very pleased with what he's doing.

703
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: I think he's he's back in the saddle again, you know,

704
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: in that chair where he's able to put his scheme together.

705
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: I think he does an unbelievable job with coaches. So

706
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: just listening to him coach to coaches, listening to him

707
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: talk about his scheme and the things that we're gonna do.

708
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: Uh So he's well on his way. He's doing a

709
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: really nice job. I will, yes, I wouldn't. I don't

710
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: think it's important to me. I think it's important to

711
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: do what's right for the team. Um So I feel

712
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: like that's the right thing to do for the team.

713
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: Not in that lens, Tony, I just feel like it's

714
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do. So, how I guess feeling. Yeah,

715
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: as you know, Scott, we had continuity there for a

716
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: bunch of years, and that can be good. And I

717
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: think sometimes change can be good. I think for me

718
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: and for us, this process of talking to a bunch

719
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: of coaches, interviewing a lot of coaches, you learn a

720
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: lot about the candidate. You also learn about different ways

721
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: of doing things. So I think there's a certainly a

722
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: different perspective that I gain from some of the people

723
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: that we're able to talk to, and obviously the people

724
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: were able to hire. I think it really pushes you

725
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: to to rethink certain things of what we're doing and

726
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: make sure that we're trying to do the best thing

727
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: for the team. That Yeah, as you know, you're always

728
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: trying to make the decisions with all the information uh

729
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: at hands. So we ultimately decided to to make that move. Um.

730
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: I think the world of Mike pre for the person,

731
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: the coach. He's a really really good football coach, a

732
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: really good friend. UH. With Bubba Ventrone, you know, we're

733
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: excited what he brings. You know, I played against Bubba

734
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: back when he was at Villaneuva. I was at penn Um,

735
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: so we go way back. He's a good coach excited

736
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: to have him. Um, you know, a former player player

737
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Obviously, I think that that's that lends

738
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: to credibility, it lends to what he knows what Northeast

739
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: Ohio was about so excited about Bubba Yea. What was

740
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: it like? Yeah, I'm a huge Jacoby fan. Um the

741
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: person first and foremost. We were with the each other

742
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: just for that past this past year, but really see

743
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: the game similarly. Um, you know, we we've talked at

744
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: length about Jacoby and and when I first when we

745
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: first were talking about signing him, I made a lot

746
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: of phone calls to people that knew him, and they

747
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: all it was very consistent and just the type of

748
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: person you were getting. So he played good football for us.

749
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: We'll see what the future holds. I don't know what

750
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: the future holds for Jacobi, but I'm a huge fan

751
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: of his. Yeah, I think there's some of the differences

752
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: were really really small, some were big. I think they're

753
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: just two different players. There's there's obviously schematically things that

754
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with your quarterback that has this skill set,

755
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: and then this skill set you're gonna differ while trying

756
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: not to be totally different, so that you can't transition

757
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: completely one eighty in the middle of the season, but

758
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: you try to play to each of their strengths. I

759
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: think we'll see. I think that's the truth. I think

760
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: there's options there, and I think Andrew and his crew

761
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: are working through all those options. But I don't know.

762
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: We don't have a definitive answer right now. We talked

763
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: about different styles. Bill musprain offensive cow top five and

764
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: runs out is not something we can expect more that

765
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: we know that something. Yeah, well, I think excited to

766
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: add coach Musgrave and his role. He's going to help

767
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different areas. Uh. You mentioned the

768
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: that run game, and those are things that Bill uh

769
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: did a lot of with Chip Kelly his year in Philadelphia.

770
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: So that's just an example of things that you're always

771
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: trying to get better at what you're doing. And obviously

772
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: Bill's had success with with that area. So there will

773
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: be Uh that's one area of the run game, but

774
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: there's a ton that he can help our staff. We

775
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: can talk to each other, but just not about football,

776
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: so we're still talking. Um. Yeah, I think just getting

777
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: on the same page on on everything. You know, how

778
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: we meet, how we structure practice, making sure he's comfortable

779
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: with different things. So you know, you talk about everything

780
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: under the sun with with players in an exit meeting,

781
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: and certainly try to do the same with the Sean.

782
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: So I think we all, I know, we're seeing the

783
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: game very similarly. He's very excited about what we're going

784
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: to be doing offensively, what we'll be doing as a team,

785
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: and I think he's excited to go go play some

786
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: football in the spring and summer. Yeah. As you know, though, Tony,

787
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: it's March, so I think we have plenty of time

788
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: once we do get back together to try different things,

789
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: and there's no shortage to the amount of offense you

790
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: can run. It's just a matter of what you can

791
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: hang your hat on and what you can get good

792
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: at come the spring and summer. Yeah. Well, there's a

793
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: first thing I would tell you is Alex Van Peltz,

794
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: one of the best teammates I've ever been around. A VP,

795
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: was in that quarterback rooms as really the main voice

796
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: for the first two years. TC McCartney, a really good

797
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: young coach, was in there. TC just finished his first

798
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 1: year with our tight ends and did a great job.

799
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: So it just felt like with Drew leaving to go

800
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 1: to Arizona, this was an opportunity for a VP to

801
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: go back in there. And I say that because AVP

802
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: and I are in every quarterback meeting. AVP took a

803
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: step back so that Drew could have that voice in

804
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: there and did a great job. So AVP is ready

805
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: for whatever I feel like, and we feel like he's

806
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: best for the team, so he's ready to do that.

807
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: I think it brings continuity to the position. You know.

808
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: I think I'm always cognizant of how many voices are

809
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: talking to the quarterback and there's different ways to do it.

810
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: But I just feel strongly that with a VP's voice

811
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: in there myself, we're gonna move Ashton Grant, our our

812
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: young offensive assistant, into that quarterback room. And you know,

813
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for me to talk about the success

814
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: we've had with the Bill Willis Diversity Fellowship. Ashton was

815
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: our first person that we hired in that position in

816
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: year one for us in twenty twenty, he's worked with

817
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: the running backs, the wide receivers, the tight ends, and

818
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: now the quarterbacks. Israel Wolfwork, who was previously our Bill

819
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: Willis Diversity Fellows going to Arizone as a quarterback coach.

820
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: So that program is working. It's not just on the

821
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: offense side of the ball, which I know is important.

822
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: But we're crazy about developing our young coaches, and I

823
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: think we have some really good young coaches. I'm not

824
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: gonna name all of them, but I'm excited all those guys,

825
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: you know, And I would point out a guy like

826
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: Steven Bravo Brown Bravo. We brought in college wide receiver.

827
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: He worked two years on our defense. We moved, but

828
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: we're to special teams. He's finished his first year and

829
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna go in a second or special team. So

830
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: we're trying to develop some young coaches and I think

831
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: we've got some really good ones. Yeah. I think that's

832
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: all part of the process. I think you really do

833
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: it every season, even when you maybe don't when you

834
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: have continuity, when you're maybe not bringing in some new coaches.

835
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: You try to pull everything apart and look at it

836
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: a year to year. But typically you really structure your

837
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: day and a half. You you spend half the day

838
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: on personnel and watching college tape, and he spend the

839
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: other half on your offense or your defense, or your

840
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: special team. So we're spending plenty of time trying to

841
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: look at what we're doing schematically and make sure that

842
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: there's there's We're turning over every rock, uh schematically to

843
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: look at different things. And then you do have to

844
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: put your scout hat on uh in in February, March,

845
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: and April, and we uh Andrew and his career do

846
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: a great job of listening to the coaches and hearing

847
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: the coaches out. So uh, the coaches are watching a

848
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: ton of tape. Honestly, it's the first time where I

849
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: get to watch some tape now that we have the

850
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: coaching staff hired. I can, you know, hide up in

851
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: my room here and just turn on the tape and

852
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: watch a bunch of these young men for the first time.

853
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: He has. Yeah, he's given us some good insights. Uh.

854
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: We met with Luke this morning with the coaches or

855
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: in the formal interview setting. He has given us some

856
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: insight um. And it's you know, it's good when you

857
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: hire coaches from college, whether not all of them have

858
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: nephews that are in the in the draft, but they've

859
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: gone against different players, uh, you know, in the Pac

860
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: twelve for instance, where they can give us great insight

861
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: some of these players. He talked about new coaches. Obviously

862
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: we know it's not a name really known. How did

863
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: you get on your radar and what can what do

864
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: you expect from? Yeah, From was somebody that came highly

865
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: recommended to us, and and we talked to a lot

866
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: of people. We really were diligent about this process, and

867
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: I just think you have to be. And I think

868
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: also with the league is being more deliberate about all

869
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: of their hiring. I think that's one of the things

870
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: you saw with the head coaching hiring this season as well.

871
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: But try to spend as much time as we can

872
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: to search every avenue for good young coaches, good coaches period.

873
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: So spend some time with that from put him through

874
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: an interview, did a ton of reference work on him,

875
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: and you know, all that was so positive and getting

876
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: to know him, you get to feel his energy. He's

877
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: had a unique path to coaching. UM so certainly excited

878
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: to get him in our building. Yeah. Yeah, so that's

879
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: a good question, Tony. So Bill won't be in the

880
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: quarterback room. He'll be really contributing throughout our entire staff.

881
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Bill has a ton of experience as an offensive coordinator,

882
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: in this league obviously experiences a playing quarterback, coaching the quarterbacks,

883
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: coordinating offense. So he'll assist me in a bunch of areas.

884
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: He'll assist a VP in a bunch of areas, but

885
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: day to day he'll he won't be in the quarterback room. Yeah,

886
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, for me, I get to them. Oftentimes I

887
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: get to the comment I don't know much about the players.

888
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't watch it. I love college football, but I

889
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: don't get to watch a ton of it. So a

890
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: lot of these I know the name. My kids know

891
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: the names better than I do at this point. But

892
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: I'll turn on the tape and usually put on games,

893
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: so you'll, you know, pick a game, you check the

894
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: stat line, make sure the player played in that game,

895
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: and you turn it on and and you know, I

896
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: go back to Kevin Rodgers, one of our coaches taught

897
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: me how to watch tape and how to evaluate tape

898
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: when I was a young coach, and he just said, right,

899
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: what you see. He was very pragmatic about it. So

900
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: try to just write when I sit on there, and

901
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: then after a while you feel like your notes are

902
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of matching up and formulating an opinion as you

903
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: go but it takes time. There's no no secret, you know,

904
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: there's no you can't snap your fingers and be dumb

905
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: watching a player like you've got. I do, Yeah, I

906
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: really do. And I think Steve with with that front

907
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: and with how we play, how we've played, it's not

908
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: a huge departure. We're not, for instance, you know, we're

909
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: we're an over or an even front team. Uh so

910
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: we're not going to an underfront or an odd front.

911
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: So the front in some ways remains the same. There's

912
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: a ton of nuance that and how you play it

913
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: which can vary, but I think ultimately the team is

914
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: built to transition nicely into gym scheme. I mean, we've talked,

915
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: We've talked about everything, you know, so we're looking at

916
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: this thing from A to Z, from coaching to our

917
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: coaching staff to the players, how we structure things. I mean,

918
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'm very, very fortunate to have Jim a

919
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: former head coach one out of my office, Bill Callahan

920
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: a former head coach on the other on the other side,

921
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: out the other door. So I have a lot of

922
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: very veteran guys that I can lean on um and

923
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: and Jim has won Jim Jim's a great defensive coordinator

924
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: as we know, but he's he's he's run teams. He

925
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of sees things from that lens and can be

926
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: very helpful to me as well. Yeah, I think you know,

927
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: Donovan's a young man that has taken a step every

928
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: season that he's been with us. I think he's worked

929
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: his tail off in the weight room and on his body,

930
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: and you see the guy that just is physically developed.

931
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: David Bell is super dependable, super reliable. When the ball

932
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: came his way, he made a play. So excited about

933
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: him taking that next step as well. What kind of

934
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: it did? Yeah, I think you know AVPs, a former quarterback,

935
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: has done it. Has coached a bunch of guys, coach

936
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: a lot of good players. So I think they're again

937
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: lens an instant credibility with a VP when you're talking

938
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position and we spend a lot of

939
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 1: time together, they spend we spend time in that meeting room,

940
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: spend time in the field, and then just think you know,

941
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: during games, AVP is the one sitting on that bench

942
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: going over the pictures. So there's a built in relationship there. There,

943
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: there's there's respect there, Uh, AVPs a player. AVP is

944
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: a coach that can push this player along with with

945
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: myself and the rest of our staff. But I just

946
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: think there's a built in relationship there. Good. Okay, thanks guys. Right,

947
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: there's coach Stefanski from the podium. He will be joining

948
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: us coming up in the second hour, which is coming

949
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: up next, you'll sten to Cleave the Broad's Daily on

950
00:51:49,840 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: a fifty ESPN Cleveland Live from the NFL Scouting Combine

951
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you

952
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: by Bally Bett. Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty

953
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Probably one of the most honest a facity

954
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: conversation you're going to hear about what we saw from

955
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson six games last season. Here is Z with

956
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: Chris Simms. Here with the man who needs no introduction.

957
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: Great Chris Simms and Chris, let's talk a little bit

958
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: about quarterback play. You played quarterback in this league. When

959
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: you think about from a Brown's respective, Deshaun Watson seven

960
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: hundred days off, yeah, could you fathom that? And really

961
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: what would that mean to go of? Oh? Now I'm

962
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: playing live football again for the first time in seven

963
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: hundred days. It's insane. I mean, I think the world

964
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is the football player. And you know, I

965
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: was trying to tell people all that, like all year

966
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: long before he got in there, like there's no way,

967
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: and then if he could, I would have been like,

968
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there's no way he can come in there,

969
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: and just like hey, it's like riding a bike and

970
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be the same guy I was before.

971
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: It's an incredible There's nothing that you can do to

972
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: get used to playing in the NFL. That's why I'm

973
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: always a proponent of, like the young guy, get him

974
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: in there, get used to playing. You know, you guys

975
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: know you watch practice. I mean it's a controlled environment.

976
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, it's different when there's eighty thousand fans yelling

977
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: and the guy across and you can actually rip your

978
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: head off now and it's like, whoa, this is a

979
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: different game than it was in practice. So I expected

980
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: some of those you know, bumps in the road or

981
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: whatever else, but we saw some good signs there, and

982
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, I think Deshaun Watson's going to be right

983
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: near the you know, back in the top quarterbacks in

984
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: football conversation this year. I couldn't even to add to that.

985
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: I the run of the like being a backup. I

986
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: got thrown in the a backup a few times where okay, now,

987
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: hey the starter got hurt and it's week four or

988
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: it's week eight, and I was like, holy crap, I

989
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: feel like I haven't played football. I'll be bore in

990
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: my life. So I can't even imagine seven hundred days. Yeah,

991
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: and you mentioned some signs of encouragement. Five touchdowns the

992
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: last two games. What was it that you saw? From

993
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: my standpoint, I saw him do things every week that

994
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a Browns quarterback do in a decade. Yeah.

995
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: I hear that he's a special player. He really is,

996
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: And I think you just to me more. It's just

997
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 1: the comfort of how he looked in the pocket, the

998
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: way the ball started to come off of his hand

999
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: right first game or two, a little wobbly. Let's say

1000
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: you're not sure of yourself, your body's not in the

1001
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: right position. You're thinking a lot because you're like, oh, wait,

1002
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 1: what's this play? I'm still getting into used to this offense,

1003
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: or how to read this all of those type of things.

1004
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: But I think that's, you know, one the quality of

1005
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: the football to just comfort from him. Three started to

1006
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: see I think to what you were explaining, like, you know,

1007
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: oh man, he's feeling comfortable thereas he took five steps

1008
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: one hitch boom. It wasn't like, oh wait, I'm not

1009
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: sure if he's open, let me pat it one more time.

1010
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: You know, there was none of that going on. It

1011
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: started to look like just the natural Deshaun Watson play.

1012
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: So he did a podcast recently and had some comments

1013
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: that kind of resonate with me. And who better to

1014
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: ask than somebody who played the position. So he said,

1015
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: when he was in Houston, he was responsible everything. So

1016
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: he was responsible for all the protection checks, everything souped

1017
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: and us New England way right, Bill O'Brien and all that.

1018
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: So it's hard, it is, he said that this way

1019
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: where Kevin the coaches kind of lay it all out

1020
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: for you, and then the center is the one controlling

1021
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: the protections and the side adjustments and all that. He

1022
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: said that actually sometimes it was harder for him to

1023
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: so used to seeing the whole picture and having to

1024
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 1: be cognizant of it too. Now I'm really only focused

1025
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: on one thing, right From a quarterbackxtra spective what's the

1026
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: difference and how would that affect how you played. Yeah,

1027
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: I've been a part of both, and both can be

1028
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: really cool once you get really comfortable, you know. I

1029
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: think what he's explained is like, yeah, you know, hey,

1030
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: since I was in charge, I knew all my problems

1031
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: where this one. They're taking some off your plate and going, hey,

1032
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: just read the coverages and get make sure our pattern

1033
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: or whatever pass play is the right one here or whatever,

1034
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: and don't worry about the other stuff. We've taught our

1035
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: old line how to pick these things up right. And

1036
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: there's a number of really good teams in football that

1037
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: do that, you know. I think the forty nine ers

1038
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: in Shanahan do that a little bit, you know. But yeah,

1039
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: there's a part there when you first do that, you're like, wait,

1040
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: does that guy really you know, drop back to it?

1041
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: Is he really gonna block him over there? They are?

1042
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: They sure they pointed to that guy over there, And

1043
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: that can lead to like some uncertainty. So now you're

1044
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: not looking down the field and you're going, wait, did

1045
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: the center know that guy was blitzing? Let me check?

1046
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: And now you've tooken your eyes off the field, right,

1047
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 1: So that's where it's a little different as compared to

1048
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Billy O'Brien New England. You know, because of your in

1049
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: control and they make you do so much. Yes, you

1050
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: know where your problems are and all that, but at

1051
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: the same time you can also get so caught up

1052
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: in that and you go, damn, wait what coverage is it?

1053
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: Hold on? Wait? What is our play? I just got

1054
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: our protection figured out. Hold on a second, they change

1055
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: the coverage, So there's good and bad at both. Um.

1056
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna like this new way though, I

1057
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: think he guys. I think it's gonna take more off

1058
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: of that. When it's all said and done, he can

1059
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: just go play. And how exciting would you do you

1060
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: think it will be for Browns fans that now you

1061
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: have a full off season because they kind of had

1062
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: to put in two offenses, right, Jacoby, you couldn't do

1063
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: some of the things that Sean could do. How exciting

1064
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: can it be when they've got this time they can

1065
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: sit down? And I think people don't really understand the NFL,

1066
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: how much of a collaboration is between your star quarterback

1067
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: and the play caller and the play designer. Right to

1068
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: get everything on the same page that now you have

1069
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: a chance to really do that full speed definitely. You know,

1070
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: there's just there's there's no what ifs or we got

1071
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: to worry about this and play and b and all

1072
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: that kind of crap. Now they can go it's a

1073
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: blank canvas. They know what he's capable of, and they're

1074
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: gonna see. Actually, as it goes on here, they're gonna go, oh, crap,

1075
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: he's capable of more. He's just hitting his groove here.

1076
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: And that's where I think is going to get exciting

1077
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be able to tinker with him, like

1078
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: you've heard and Andy Andy read with the Mahomes where

1079
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: they start to go, well, damn, you know, I don't know,

1080
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: I've never had a guy that can make this throw.

1081
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: But he can, so let's try this play or you know,

1082
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: let's tinker with this on the fourth day of OTAs.

1083
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: I've never done it, but let's just try it because

1084
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: he can do it, and maybe we can figure out,

1085
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: you know, some things off of it. I think that's

1086
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: where I can get exciting for the Browns. And then

1087
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: you couple that with your guys offensive line and your

1088
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: run game, and then he's an amazing play action passer.

1089
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: It is. I just think there's yeah, there's a lot

1090
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: to be excited for. So the offense is pretty much

1091
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: gonna be back. I think everybody's talking about adding one thing,

1092
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: a speed receiver, somebody to stretch the field vertically horizontally

1093
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. When you have what I call a

1094
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: space creator, how much easier does it make your job? Well,

1095
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: it's it's huge. Whether you know, you talk about a

1096
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: Tyree Kill or a Jamar Chase right there, they're usually

1097
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: such not only weapons when they get the ball or

1098
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: running down the field or whatever, but they change the

1099
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: way teams play against you. That's the biggest thing. Right,

1100
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: Like you watch Bengals film and sometimes you're like, oh,

1101
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: I wish they would move Jamar Chase around a little

1102
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: bit more. But then you go, well, damn. Every time

1103
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: they move them on there, they just know that they're

1104
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna get a double and they're gonna get a corner

1105
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: and a safety over there, and then they can kind

1106
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: of play with whatever else is over there. So they

1107
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: do that. You know, the screen game, even the short

1108
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: passing game, becomes more dangerous for teams because oh no, no no,

1109
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: this guy can catch a slant and go seventy yards

1110
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: or like you're saying, runs the post route. Damn the

1111
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: corner of the safety. They're all scared to death. They're

1112
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: running back down. Here comes Amari Cooper wide open, thirty

1113
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: yards over the middle of the field. Right, That's where

1114
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: there's great value in those speed receivers. So you've sound

1115
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: like you believe this year we're going to see this

1116
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: Brown's offense take a real step and be formidable. I do,

1117
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: I do, you know? And I was, you know, I

1118
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: don't want to say happy, but I wasn't shocked, and

1119
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: I think they probably did the right thing by making

1120
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: the change on the defensive side of the ball. There

1121
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: were some things there that I certainly did not like,

1122
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, the offense, I'm a believer in the offense.

1123
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: And listen, I'll be honestly. I was a little skeptical

1124
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: about Kevin Stefanski at first when he got there and

1125
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: all that, I'm not at all now I think I've

1126
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: seen him puny to go that the offense is good.

1127
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: It's got answers for everything. Now they get the talent

1128
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: around this guy and get this guy gruven. Uh, Yeah,

1129
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: you'll be one of the better offenses in football. You

1130
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: mentioned real quick on the defense and mentioned bringing Jim

1131
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: Schwartz and what does he do for this team? Yeah,

1132
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: I think the first thing, at least that you know,

1133
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: Schwartz has been around, he's created. He can do it

1134
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: both ways. He can be simple and sound or he

1135
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: can be like whoa, he's doing all kinds of crazy crap.

1136
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: He can kind of do both. And I think the

1137
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: biggest thing that maybe bothers me about the Browns and

1138
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: I think Schwartz being from the you know, Belichick school

1139
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: of coaching Jeff Fisher. When I was with the Tennessee Titans,

1140
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: Schwartz was the decordinator there. There's a belief in size,

1141
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: and to me, that is the port where like there's

1142
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: been missing in Cleveland. There's just not enough big people

1143
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: on the defense. And so you played teams that can

1144
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: run the ball, and it's just like, well damn, they

1145
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: have to put all ten guys in the box to

1146
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: stop the run, and they're screwed in the past game Now,

1147
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 1: so I think he's gonna fix those areas and address that.

1148
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: Get a little bit more you know, physicality, size and

1149
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: power up front to now let the rest of your

1150
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: guys play and be creative in the back end. That's

1151
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: what I look forward to. You mentioned the size, so

1152
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz, obviously it's spent some time Phillies with Tennessee

1153
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: most recently, but when we had joined practices with the

1154
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: Eagles this year, you saw that when they walked off,

1155
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: we were like, not surprised there on the Super Bowl.

1156
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: That is a big group of humans, exactly right. And

1157
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 1: I think if you saw Kansas City, you know, they're

1158
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: not as big as Philadelphia, but you'd go, oh, crap.

1159
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: I didn't realize Chris Jones was that big? Who Orlando Brown?

1160
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: Is that the biggest human I've ever seen in my life?

1161
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney, I mean it goes down the list. You know,

1162
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: there's still sizes of skill. And you know, one thing

1163
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: that I always learned from my dad and Bill Parcels,

1164
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: because I hear a quote still to this, you know

1165
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: point in my life every week from Bill Parcels from

1166
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: my dad. You know, he's always, hey, big people don't

1167
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: get smaller, but fast people will get slower as the

1168
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 1: year goes on, they get worn down. And I think

1169
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: there's you know, some truth to that. And I think

1170
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: you look at the final four this year. You know,

1171
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: even that that Bengals defensive line. Oh, they got some

1172
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: big suckers up there. DJ Reader, good luck trying to

1173
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: move in right and b J Hill, Right, those d

1174
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: ns are big. The forty nine ers, I mean, they're like,

1175
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: they're like the Eagles you're talking about. It's just one

1176
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: Greek god after another. You're like, holy crap, look at

1177
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: these guys. So, yeah, they need to get a little

1178
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: of that match. Their offensive line has that going, but

1179
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: they need to get the rest of the team like that. Chris,

1180
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: this is great stuff really appreciate at the time, and

1181
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: I think everybody's gonna be very happy to hear some

1182
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: optimism because right now, the Browns, you know, last year

1183
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: we'd stand here and all the Browns are gonna be great,

1184
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, or coming off of that twenty twenty season,

1185
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: and I think under the radars just fine, the radars fine,

1186
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: and you know, hey, there's a lot you guys had

1187
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: to deal with here the last year. And uh you know,

1188
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: I think now at commer Waters and Commerces ahead, and

1189
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I think you'll start to see the talent

1190
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: of this team and Stefanski get him going in the

1191
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: right direction. I'll tell you, Um, I like listening to

1192
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: Chris on most anything, even if I disagree with it.

1193
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: There's he's very strong in his convictions and what he

1194
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: sees it leaves and sticks with it. So that was

1195
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: if you're Browns fan out there, because really, you know,

1196
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: you and I have alluded to this all week, like

1197
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: we can talk about things that are necessary requirements that

1198
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: have to get done, but in the end, this is

1199
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: this will be the Watson referendum. It will be him

1200
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: back to what he was two years ago. Is that's

1201
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: the path this offense, right, this offense needs to be elite.

1202
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 1: You traded for an elite quarterback, You've got him now

1203
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: for a full year. You've got what, you know, an

1204
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: elite play caller. And you heard the praise from Chris

1205
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 1: Simms about Kevin Stefanski, and it's this year is about

1206
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 1: them being on the same page, executing in a high level,

1207
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: putting points on the scoreboard and putting W's in the

1208
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,479
Speaker 1: wind column. I mean, that's it. That's that's what it's about.

1209
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: And we will go as Deshaun Watson and this offense

1210
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: goes yeah, for sure, and it'll be about you know,

1211
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: like the best laid plans from last training camp were

1212
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: aborted when the suspension became what it did, and then

1213
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're thrust back into it at

1214
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: the end and you're trying to sort those things out.

1215
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: So I think you know that is something that was

1216
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: done in real time that there was no there's a

1217
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: roadmap for that one. I had ever had to do

1218
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: that before. Oh so, and you had to plan for

1219
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: a duality of outcomes. You had to then in season

1220
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: try to get him some reps while Jacobe was still playing. Yeah,

1221
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean it was only one week where he got

1222
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: to take all of the reps prior to playing against

1223
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: Houston that week that was it game week. So it

1224
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: was just a remarkable situation when you think about it,

1225
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: and obviously one that I think we were all perhaps

1226
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: a little too optimistic because we had seen how good

1227
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: he looked throwing the ball hamp you saw how good

1228
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: he looked in practice. And I think that's one of

1229
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: the big, the big takeaways and one of the things

1230
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: that I think I maybe should have learned earlier on,

1231
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: which is the following that if it's not looking good

1232
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: in practice, it's not going to be good. But that's

1233
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: just because it looks good in practice, it doesn't necessarily

1234
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: mean it will be good. But if you're struggling to

1235
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: be at high efficiency offense in practice, it's not going

1236
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, And I think probably the previous regime

1237
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: was or the previous quarterback situation taught us that, yes

1238
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: in spade, so yeah, it's and so that's it. And

1239
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: so that's when you think about what Kevin's job is.

1240
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 1: When DeShawn a VP, it is putting its spending all

1241
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: of the time, and they're gonna have a lot of

1242
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: it to sort out the best path forward, what DeShawn wants,

1243
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: what they want out of him, and then the rest

1244
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: of the things will get sort out. So Kevin'll be

1245
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: joining us momentarily. Among the topics of discussion will be

1246
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: that the plan for Watson this offseason. I'm curious now

1247
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: that he looks back in hindsight to last year, any

1248
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 1: any changes he would have made to the way that

1249
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: they approached all of that or any regret in the

1250
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: way that they handled all of that at the quarterback positions.

1251
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: While ask him those type of things, asking about his

1252
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: new members on his staff who are coming in, so

1253
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: our first chance to talk to him since the season ended. Yeah,

1254
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: spent a minute. It's been it has been a while,

1255
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: and obviously a lot has changed. He had to make

1256
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: some very difficult decisions, which he did in terms of

1257
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: changing over the staff on the defensive side of the

1258
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: ball and the new special teams coordinator to boot. Yeah,

1259
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: this is the urgency is real there. There is a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure. This is a team that needs to

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Speaker 1: go to the postseason. Yeah. I think it's I think period.

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Speaker 1: I think he knows that. I think he would agree

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Speaker 1: with that assessment. And that's how that's how it's got

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Speaker 1: to be. I mean, that's ultimately, that's what you're here

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Speaker 1: to do. You are here to win. You are here

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Speaker 1: to have this team compete for a championship. You'd love

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Speaker 1: to win the division home home playoff game, all of

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Speaker 1: those things, but that's I think those are much more

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Speaker 1: the stakes, the expectations and nay, the demands of this

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Speaker 1: team's output this year. Agree, it's not going to just

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Speaker 1: be all we're not going towards Okay, we're arrived, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now it's time to go win games. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's it. So coachably joining us momentarily, still so

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Speaker 1: much more to come as we're broadcasting live over in

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Speaker 1: with a meeting with the local media in what I

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01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: would consider a gagle that's been going on for quite

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Speaker 1: a while. So once he's done there, the never ending story.

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Speaker 1: Once he's done there, we are told he will come

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Speaker 1: over here, told we will have a conversation with him. Yea.

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Speaker 1: At that point, um, the so a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: just big picture NFL, the quarterback situation, Rogers at the top,

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Speaker 1: then car we saw of the reporting that car met

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Speaker 1: with the Panthers yesterday. It feels like he's waiting out

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Speaker 1: the Jets, Jets today, Prizon, he's meeting with the Jets

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Speaker 1: again today. In Isisen's trying to crash the meeting and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't see the deal. He wants him in. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want the Michigas okay of Aaron Rodgers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So he wants him in so that that deal could

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01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: could happen. Um, it feels like they are the first choice.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, like you you are walking into a snake

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01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: pit brother in the AFC. You are, But that is

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01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: a pretty talented that that would be the best supporting

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: cast he's ever had. It would certainly be the best

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01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: defense he's ever played with. It is a snake pit,

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01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 1: but that's a Nathaniel Hackett coordinated offense coach, that's right,

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Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, look, if you could drop that

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Speaker 1: roster right on into the NFC, of course you do that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that there isn't a situation though

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Speaker 1: that he lands it in the NFC. That's all that appealing, right,

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Speaker 1: Like where it would be the most appealing NFC situation

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Speaker 1: that you could even find yourself in. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there are any I mean in the NFC South. No,

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01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 1: Tampa's not gonna be able to keep that roster together.

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Speaker 1: The Saints. Maybe maybe the Saints is an appealing spot,

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 1: but it's it's there. There isn't a sure thing. There's

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Speaker 1: no home run destination there. You have a ready made

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Speaker 1: team like you do in the AFC. Coach walking over

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Speaker 1: right now to get a quick time out, and then

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Speaker 1: he will join us radio on Clean Broads Daily fifty

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland Live from the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought to you by Bally

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Speaker 1: bed coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to Indianapolis here at the NFL

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Speaker 1: Scouting Combrine Bow and Z and Luminaries. That's right again,

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Speaker 1: Coach Devanski joining us, by the way, the first time

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Speaker 1: it's been what four years ago? Yeah, you walked up

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01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: in this thing. Yeah. And then a Monday they were

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Speaker 1: on our studio in our quarter zip saw times. I

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01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: haven't worn it since I saw na Nathan Warred. Well, Marsh,

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: that's fine, I'll take it over. Don't make it don't give.

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Speaker 1: When you have a shot to take you to you

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Speaker 1: take that's shooter. Shoot? Are you at all jealous? Z

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01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: showed you the pictures of our hoodies. Yeah, those are great, beautiful. Yeah,

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: well done. Brad Melon gets credit for those. That's right. Well, yeah,

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: we've I mean we were, we were hot on the

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Speaker 1: trail as you know, for years, the years and years

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: and years, and never came to fruition. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you're aware of this or not, but

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01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 1: down in Atlanta this year, I was doing pregame TV

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01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: and outcomes Stretton, I mean with a dip a strut

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01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: Brad Melon in the white m Yeah, and then not

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01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: everybody can pull that off. He teased us with that

1344
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: for a while, then nothing and then finally we end

1345
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: it up with the cream. He made it right. He

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01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: made it right. He did. He's a fine man. Yeah.

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01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: Merch makes the world go around, doesn't does? It brings

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01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: so much joy? It does? It brings a lot of joy,

1349
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 1: a lot of joy. The quarterbacks make the world go

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: round as well. And we had our guy for six

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Speaker 1: this year this year. Uh, as you look back, Kevin

1352
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: on that time and just such a chaotic experience. I'm

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: sure all season long. I know you guys had a

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Speaker 1: plan for it and you executed that plan. As you

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01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: look back on it, would you change anything? Was there

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 1: anything that could have been done different? What did you

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01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: make of the six with Watson? Yeah? I mean I

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01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: think you know, you win three, you lose three, So

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Speaker 1: certainly there's you know, that's right down the middle of

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Speaker 1: you want to do better. So there's always things that

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Speaker 1: I feel like we could do better. There's things that

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: we can do better as a team, you know, o DK,

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Speaker 1: There's definitely things I can do better, and of course

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01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: things that Deshaun can do better. And I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him do it in practice, I've seen him

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Speaker 1: do it in games. He did things that that very

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01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: few people on this earth can do, so he's more

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: than capable. I'm excited for him. I'm excited about the

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01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 1: work he's about to put in to this thing. But

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Speaker 1: that's really where it comes back to with him. He's

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: a he's a Jim rat. He wants to get better

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Speaker 1: and I have no doubt that he will so he

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Speaker 1: I talked with Chris Sims. We actually played the interview

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Speaker 1: prior to you coming on yesterday about something that Deshaun

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01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: said on that podcast with Quincy Avery, and it was

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01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: that he was used to in Houston calling out everything,

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01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: do being respondle for everything. He set the mic, he

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01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: set the protections, He did it all. And there are

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Speaker 1: two schools of thought, right, that's Bill O'Brien Patriots, you

1380
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: do it all, and then there are others which in ours,

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01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: the offensive line actually takes over a lot of that

1382
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: responsibility when you have a guy like Bill Callahan and

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01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: Kristen said, you know, when I was in Tampa, I

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Speaker 1: did everything. Then I went to Tennessee and they had

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01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 1: muncheck and like, you don't have to worry about that.

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Speaker 1: How does that come to be number one? What would

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Speaker 1: you say the balances in the league? And then what

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Speaker 1: would you say the pros and cons for a quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the two different styles? Yeah? Both in this case,

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01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: in this scenario, both cases work. You know, it's just

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: a matter of what you choose to do. You know,

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback, the line may point out the mic.

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01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: You don't get it to marry if you also point

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01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 1: out the mic, you know, if that's part of your process.

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01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: So for Deshaun is trying and our quarterbacks it is

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 1: taking a little bit off of their plate. Now, when

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01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: you're the quarterback, when you're the trigger man, you are

1398
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: ultimately responsible for everything. So you have what we call

1399
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: the trump carter, and you can come in at any

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: point and change a protection or move it this way.

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01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: And that's why Dashawan and our quarterbacks spends so much

1402
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: time in that meeting room to get to know exactly

1403
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: where are we going with this protection? Where are we

1404
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: going In the run game, I think you wouldn't believe

1405
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: how much responsibility falls on the quarterback to get their

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01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: runs correct because, as you can imagine, the center come

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: back comes out, he may point the mic, but he

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01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: also has bent over the ball, he's getting ready to

1409
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 1: snap ball. He doesn't have the viewpoint that the quarterback has.

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Speaker 1: So that's where ultimately you give the quarterback a ton

1411
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: of leeway. But you also if you can take as

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: much off his plate, because playing quarterback is pretty darn hard.

1413
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: If there's some small things you can take off the plate,

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01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: you try and do that. That's trust. That's how you

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01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: just described. That's full trust, and that's familiarity and and more.

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 1: You just wrap it a billion times and it comes

1417
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: from time. I mean I can't tell you, you know,

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: in a course of a given week, how much time

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01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 1: the center and the quarterbacks spend together and talk about protections.

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01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we we devote full meetings to it, full

1421
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: walk throughs to it. So it's it is a process.

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Speaker 1: With these defensive coordinators, how good they are, you know,

1423
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: in these fronts, they're giving you all sorts of different looks.

1424
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: We are very fortunate to have Coach Callahan, Alex Van Pelt,

1425
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: guys that are really, you know, the protection doctors, if

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01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: you will, to make sure that we're always on the

1427
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: same page, because at the end of the day, you

1428
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: know that defense may bring one more than you can handle.

1429
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: But as long as you know that from the quarterback position,

1430
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:12,599
Speaker 1: now you have some options at your disposal to try

1431
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: to negate that advantage that defense may have in that moment.

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01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,639
Speaker 1: Going back and watching the season and watching Jacoby, watching

1433
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: Deshan and the differences, you know, and what Deshaun did

1434
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: in Houston, what he's asked to in Houston, what he

1435
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: does here, it felt like to me, and you can

1436
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 1: say you're a bozo, but it felt like to me,

1437
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: Jacoby was very good at taking the layups, and I

1438
01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 1: feel like our offense provides a lot of layups help

1439
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 1: you move the ball down the field, and in Houston,

1440
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,640
Speaker 1: Deshaun was kind of a lot of times it was

1441
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: dropped back and make something awesome. Having not that there

1442
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 1: weren't layups given in the offense, but there were certainly

1443
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: times on tape this year where there were easier plays

1444
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: that he could have made and called under two and

1445
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: a half seconds that sometimes he would have long gate.

1446
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: Do you feel like he put a lot of pressure

1447
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: on himself because it was only six games to do

1448
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,799
Speaker 1: so much or is it never being in a system

1449
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: like this that because once he's has those layups become

1450
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: the layups again, the sky's the limit, right, Yeah, you know,

1451
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: I think with great quarterbacks, you know, DeShawn has the

1452
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: ability to make some plays that I certainly we can't teach.

1453
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: There's also throws that he can make that very few

1454
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: on this earth can make. So you're always when you

1455
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: have that ability, you are going to try to uh,

1456
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, there are some throws that you're going to

1457
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: try to throw in there that maybe others can't. So

1458
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 1: you don't want to take that away from a quarterback.

1459
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: You don't want a quarterback to play ultra careful. Now

1460
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: you do want to play smart and when and we

1461
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: have so many reads where you're really you're working top

1462
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: down and you're trying to hit the big one. If

1463
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: it's not there, you come down, you make a decision.

1464
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: So where there are times that we could have taken that. Sure,

1465
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: of course there's there's every game that that's going to

1466
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: be and every game for every quarterback. But I think

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01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: Deshaun is a very good understanding of our system, what

1468
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: we're trying to get done, and I think he's excited

1469
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: about some of the things that we're doing moving forward.

1470
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: And a VP back into that room. Drew obviously off

1471
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: to Arizona. Great move for him to be able to

1472
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: go be a coordinator. It's cool to see that happen.

1473
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: But AVP back in there, and we heard from Dashaun

1474
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: in the interview a lot of he'd liked that move

1475
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: a lot, honestly. And there's the continuity, there's no brain.

1476
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: It's interesting because you say back in the room, he

1477
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: never left. You know, he's in, He's in every meeting.

1478
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm in every meeting. Really what AVP did and I

1479
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: just mentioned it to the media, and I want to

1480
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 1: say it again. Avp is one of the all time

1481
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: teammates in football, and what he did last year was

1482
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 1: he took a step back in some ways figuratively and

1483
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 1: let Drew have that voice in the quarterback room. Now,

1484
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: ultimately it was at the direction in a lot of ways,

1485
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: at at Avp's direction, at my direction, if you will, um,

1486
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: but he let Drew you know, operate at times in there,

1487
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: and he did it and then it's like, Okay, hey,

1488
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna change it back to how he did it. Okay, great.

1489
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: He wants to do whatever is best for the team.

1490
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: So I think we're just so fortunate to have that

1491
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: type of guy in that room. Coach, when you bring

1492
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: in Jim Schwartz and we'll talk about why you made

1493
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: the move and what you're excited about, But is that

1494
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: is one of the first things that you talk about,

1495
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: like what would you do? How would you stop me?

1496
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: This is how I would tack you that? And is

1497
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: that an illuminating conversation? Well? Yeah, I mean coach Schwartz

1498
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: has been doing this for a long time, so we've

1499
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: gone up against each other both on I'm the quarterback

1500
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: coach or the coordinator. So what he does is in

1501
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. There's beauty and the simplicity. His

1502
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: teams play really really hard, they're sound, they're not going

1503
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 1: to beat themselves. And there are times, obviously in the

1504
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 1: third down where there's gonna be some things that they're

1505
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna put the offense in a bind when it comes

1506
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: to how they deploy different players. But coach Schwartz has

1507
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: seen so much football. He's called a ton of football games.

1508
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,719
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm excited about is just his ability,

1509
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: his experience with our guys. He's great at coaching the

1510
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 1: coach He's developing young coaches, which I'm excited about. So, uh,

1511
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: he's a he's a fun one to talk to. Again,

1512
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: he's the office next door, so we can talk ball

1513
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: a lot. And shoot, we've gone back. I put on

1514
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 1: tape from two thousand and what was it thirteen when

1515
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: he was at Detroit. Now was that Minnesota. We put

1516
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: on a game and we're talking through some of the things.

1517
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: So all those plays, all those games, they stay with you,

1518
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: so we've had plenty of time to discuss those. Coach

1519
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,839
Speaker 1: Schwartz certainly has it. There's a charisma bigness to his personality, certainly,

1520
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: and then I don't know above a ventrom, but we

1521
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 1: talked to the half about it, Joe Thomas, and he said,

1522
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: he goes whatever it is, he's got it. So were

1523
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: their personality traits that you were looking for when you

1524
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: look at these ires? Yeah, I think you're you're always

1525
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: looking for the best guys out there. I mean you're

1526
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: looking for the best that are doing it. Um, you're

1527
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: looking for guys with track records. But speaking to Bubba

1528
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: the person, I mean a fiery competitor. He's from Pennsylvania.

1529
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,799
Speaker 1: H Like I mentioned, we played against each other in college.

1530
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: Bubb actually hurt his ankle at Franklin Field when he

1531
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: was playing US his senior season, but and then then

1532
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: made it to the NFL. I mean he played safety.

1533
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: I played safety. He was good. The difference, but he

1534
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: was good. I was not. But just always a guy

1535
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: that I've had a ton of respect for, just the person.

1536
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: We have a ton of mutual friends. Just because he

1537
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 1: was at Villanova Um, which is you know, in the

1538
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: backyard or where I grew up. Is there or was

1539
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: there something that you were looking for in terms of

1540
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 1: you know somebody that you mentioned Jim Schwartz, His defenses

1541
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: are sound, they're not going to beat themselves. And we

1542
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: had an issue last year on defense with assignments that

1543
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: were not sound right and that cost us. Coaches don't

1544
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: get to play right. They're not the ones out there

1545
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 1: actually executing it. How how does Jim Schwartz ensure that

1546
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: it is sound? And how do you know what's the

1547
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: accountability for that? Is that something that you were looking for? Yeah,

1548
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 1: And I don't want to make it too much of

1549
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: here's what we didn't do and here's what we I'll

1550
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 1: just more tell you what Jim is about. And one

1551
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 1: thing that you'll notice with him at practice and him

1552
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: at walkthroughs uh, he's very involved and he is like

1553
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: the lone voice in a walkthrough where he that walked through,

1554
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: that's that's coach Schwartz. He's he's running that um and

1555
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: he wants it a very specific set of ways, both

1556
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: from the d line to the linebackers to the safety

1557
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: to the corners. He has that vision UM, so I

1558
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: think the guys will will certainly respect. I think he

1559
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,840
Speaker 1: has the pelts on the wall, so automatically respect him. Um.

1560
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: But he's his way of going about his business, the

1561
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: way he's going to be demanding of our guys. I'm

1562
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: excited about that process, right because I think we all

1563
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: look at it and it's almost like like pieces on

1564
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: a chessboard coordinator out, coordinator in. But these are these

1565
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: are your friends. He's probably been with a lot of times.

1566
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 1: How when when you think about Prief and you think

1567
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: about the decisions that had to be made, this is

1568
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 1: the first time you've had to do that. What is

1569
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 1: what was that like? That process? Yeah, none of that

1570
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 1: is easy. Um. These are you know, coaches that that

1571
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 1: you respect, people that you respect, people that you love, um,

1572
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: that work like crazy for you, that you know. So

1573
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, this is this is a people business. Um,

1574
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,839
Speaker 1: it's also you know, you got to make tough decisions

1575
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: and you have to ultimately, I have to do what's best,

1576
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: what I think is best for the team. Um. But

1577
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't change the fact that there's some really really

1578
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 1: good coaches that we uh moved on from. Doesn't make

1579
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: them bad person, doesn't make them bad coach. In fact,

1580
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: they're great people. They're great coaches. Just for this point

1581
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: in time, for what I wanted to do, this is

1582
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: the direction I went, going back to Deshaun because I

1583
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 1: think ultimately this season is largely going to be defined.

1584
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: It is the most ultimate team game. But as you

1585
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: look around this league, it's about teams that have a

1586
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 1: great quarterback play and can score the football. I mean,

1587
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 1: that's the last eight Super BOWLD champions, all top of

1588
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: the league and scoring. That's just what this league has

1589
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 1: come to. You now get to go. Everything you do

1590
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: is for Deshaun. Last year you kind of had to

1591
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 1: put in two separate paths parallel pass at the same time.

1592
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: How excited are you for that? And you mentioned you

1593
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 1: can make the throws. You think about far hash outs

1594
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: to Amari Cooper. You think about, you know, throwing to

1595
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: the back shoulder of the chief on that cover to

1596
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: Inverton Washington, a ball that DPJ said caught him in

1597
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,400
Speaker 1: Cincinnati on that deep dig that was an absolute laser.

1598
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: How fun is it that you now you know what

1599
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: is you know the deal. There's no wondering what's going

1600
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: to happen. You guys get to get in the lab together,

1601
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: put this together with all the minds that you have

1602
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: in this building, with that quarterback, and produce something that

1603
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: has a chance to be special. Yeah without it, you

1604
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: know that that is where it's it's different this season, um,

1605
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 1: but to your point, you know, it is the team game.

1606
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: So we want we want obviously to do what's best

1607
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: for Deshaun because he's the quarterback of our team and

1608
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: we want to you know, the quarterback is the main

1609
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: driver of every team. But you know it's it's it's

1610
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: all on all of us, coaches, players, you name it

1611
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: to make sure that we're all in position to go

1612
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: succeed and succeed at times, you know, through the past

1613
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: game through Deshaun, and succeed at times through the run game,

1614
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: whether it goes through Nick or or whomever that design play.

1615
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 1: So that's the fun part for us is putting it

1616
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: all together. There's no shortage of plays. You can draw

1617
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 1: up forty plays. If you don't like them, our race

1618
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: them and draw up forty more. But it's finding those

1619
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: forty that fit us, finding that game plan that fits us,

1620
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: that we can go play fast, because I think that's

1621
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: the biggest thing in this game that you see some

1622
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: of these teams, when you have a great understanding where

1623
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: you're doing, you can just go play fast and the

1624
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: guys are not thinking, they're just reacting. We certainly have

1625
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: a long I mean you can go through free agency, trades, draft,

1626
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: all of its rosters far from finished. But from the

1627
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: standpoint of is there a sense from you like, this

1628
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 1: is what we've been building towards. Our best players are

1629
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: in their prime, where a lot of them are on

1630
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: their second contracts. You've got the quarterback, the franchise quarterback,

1631
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 1: you have all these things. Is there a sense for

1632
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 1: you of like, Okay, And I know I'm sure every

1633
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: ye's like that, but it does feel a little different

1634
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 1: to us a little bit. This. Yeah, I mean I

1635
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: think you you know, just asked about this, and it's

1636
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: the truth. You feel the urgency of every year. You

1637
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: feel the urgency of every day when you're in the NFL.

1638
01:23:24,760 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: But for us, yeah, it's exciting to have the quarterback

1639
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 1: in places, it's exciting to have some of the things

1640
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: we're doing defensively. So you try to do your best

1641
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: and putting that roster together and then go play. But

1642
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell you that there's no perfect roster.

1643
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: That's just the NFL. So you're always going to try to,

1644
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, maximize your strengths is what you're trying to do,

1645
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: and then if you can minimize the weaknesses in any way,

1646
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 1: one of the things we've been talking about. Obviously, there

1647
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of needs on defense. The defensive line

1648
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: now have free safety is something we have to address.

1649
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: But I want to go back to the the offense because

1650
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: you could roll out there right now. You have your

1651
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: offense from a year ago. It's back. We'll see what

1652
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: happens at the center obvious, but you could roll out

1653
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: there and you've got it. It feels like, you know

1654
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: us talking in a lot of po a speed receiver

1655
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 1: from through your eyes. If you had a guy that

1656
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: could vertically stretch, horizontally stretch, that was that kind of

1657
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: a threat. And everybody's looking for that, right But what

1658
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: does that do for you as a play designer and

1659
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: a play caller. The space that that creates, well, yeah,

1660
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean speed is the name of the game, as

1661
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 1: we know, and there's some great, great examples of guys

1662
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: that can touch it and go. And you know when

1663
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: you have speed, and by the way, there's plenty of

1664
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: guys that didn't have that, you know, elite speed or

1665
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: that time speed that we're great players. But when you're

1666
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: talking generally speed, you can throw somebody aslant and they

1667
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: can go and you've been around the guys where they

1668
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: catch it, they pluck it, and they can go on

1669
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,120
Speaker 1: top of that. Speed is the main thing that defensive

1670
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 1: backs respond to when you talk to a corner, Hey,

1671
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 1: what what what what do you feel? I feel speed.

1672
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: So when you have a guy that can come off

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and get that corner in a

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Speaker 1: back pedal, get him to turn his hips, you really

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01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: have him exactly where you want them. So speed is

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01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,679
Speaker 1: the name of the game when it comes to that position. Now,

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01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: there's plenty of when you're designed to place, there's plenty

1678
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: of you know, quote unquote take the top off the defense.

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01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: I think will gets miss. What gets lost in that

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01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: UM phrase is you're trying to throw it to that person.

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: You know he may be taking the top off, but

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01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: he's the first read. He's the alert. UM. So having

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01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: a guy that can track the deep ball, that can

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01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: go open up things underneath, but is still that viable

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01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 1: option down the field, Coach, get you out of here

1686
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: on this one. You broke the news over there that

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01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 1: we're going to be going over to Philly for some

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01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: joint practices. Um, we assume that you'll take care of

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Speaker 1: us on the meals I mean you get some recommendations

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01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: for us everything. I've never been to Philly. I look

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01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: for your kids to it. No, never, I look God's

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01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: Country Night End with b west Bryan Westboro, Philly's greatest sons. Yes, yeah,

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01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 1: we're only doing this for the food. That is the

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01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: main driver. Um, I'll get you want a pro tip,

1695
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you a pro tip. Sorite this down up.

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01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,840
Speaker 1: If it says on the menu Philly, chief stay, you

1697
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: don't want it just cheese. Just says cheese steak. You

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01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: don't need to say Philly, whether you're in Philly or

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01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: you're not in Philly. Like you just need to say cheesteak.

1700
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: And there's plenty of cheese steak places. And I'll put

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01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 1: a list together for your job. I like it. Pleasure.

1702
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: Good seeing you again, Yeah, guys, Coach Stevanska joining us here.

1703
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: So much more to come. You Listen to Cleveland Brown's

1704
01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 1: Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland Live from the NFL

1705
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. This is Cleveland Brown's Daily, brought

1706
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 1: to you by Bally Bett. Coming soon to Ohio On

1707
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Paulice just told me we got

1708
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 1: about four minutes. That's not how we do this show. No,

1709
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,800
Speaker 1: what do you mean before we went to Bay? Sometimes

1710
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 1: there is so much more we're done, Like that's it.

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01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: I don't know so much we've done. We've done a

1712
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 1: lot here, man, I mean, how much how much entertaining

1713
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: do you have in you? Which interview did I? Next

1714
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: level is an next we'll see in September. Which interview

1715
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: first row? I believe, Yeah, we'll see it. Yeah, that

1716
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 1: was Rose. That was Rose, very very good. Yeah, look

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01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 1: that was h That's fun. That's fun. Great question by you.

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01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: At the end. I'm curious. I want to know where

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01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat. Yeah, it's a great question. I went

1720
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: out the one time I was in Philly when we play,

1721
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: so this would have been sixteen with we played in Philly,

1722
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: Okay for a regular season. Was Week one of twenty

1723
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: and sixteen, Carson Wentz's first game. Boy would a journey

1724
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: He's taken? Yeah, RG three was our starting quarterback. There

1725
01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: any eyeballs in Cleveland on that game? There were a few,

1726
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I bet there were there were a few. Uh yeah.

1727
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 1: I went out the night four to downtown Philly to

1728
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 1: an awesome Asian fusion place. At the at the choice

1729
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: of Brian Westbrook and walking around with him in Philly

1730
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 1: is great. Was that the season opener? Season over two

1731
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: down sixteen? Yeah, we almost got in a fight and

1732
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: got arrested with Secret Service on that day, not me. Well, yeah,

1733
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: right on the side. You'll remember that Vice President Biden

1734
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: made an appearance and Secret Service locked everything down on

1735
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: the field. We couldn't do our hits. Yeah, they're going hits.

1736
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: That was an all time flyover too, as I well,

1737
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,440
Speaker 1: and then I believe didn't our player do a fly by?

1738
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: Was that the helicopter or was that that's jets? That

1739
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: was Josh McCown knock that was the next year sixteen?

1740
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: That was uh Cam Irving snapped one over RG three's head.

1741
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: RG three got hurt, if it's not mistaken in that game,

1742
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: didn't finish it correct, went through a couple of touchdowns

1743
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: and we lost, and we're like, oh, man, turns out

1744
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: I believe we would go on to How did it

1745
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 1: end up win one game that year? Okay, thanks to

1746
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,759
Speaker 1: Jamie Meter who now is a cop and work security

1747
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: at First Energy. Yeah, and actually the one person, the

1748
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 1: one person who tried to rush the field this year

1749
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: who was flattened on their route. Turns out they were

1750
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: tackled by Jamie Meeter. Pretty amazing. Still making place is

1751
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 1: pretty tackle. That would feel a lot different than your

1752
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: average cop tackle. There should be there should be like

1753
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 1: something in the brochure that says, if you choose to

1754
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: run out here, you will be tackled by former NFL

1755
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 1: player Jamie Meeter. Yeah, and I just think that's poor scouting.

1756
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: If you're gonna go and you're gonna do something like that,

1757
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: you got to say this is Meeters area. I'm going

1758
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: in opposite end of the stadium, opposite way, all right,

1759
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: the opposite, the opposite Yeah, yeah, I'm not in there.

1760
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: You guys, stay out of trouble. I don't think that's

1761
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 1: going to happen tonight. It's really getting loose tonight. Huh,

1762
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: you guys are getting loose. He's really just building this up.

1763
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm listen, I'm a professional. I come here, work hard,

1764
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: play hard, but within reason. Yeah, within I'll be here

1765
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 1: brighton early tomorrow morning, ready to go. I know that

1766
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: you will be. You're already saying eleven, which for you

1767
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: is it's really really you'll be here at night there

1768
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,720
Speaker 1: you're you know it. I know it. Oh, I've got it.

1769
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: I've committed to like four other people from now I

1770
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: can tell you officially the next level is next for

1771
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,560
Speaker 1: what tomorrow? But have you committed to we're telling the

1772
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: show's over. I just want to know what he's committed to. Cleland,

1773
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:31,719
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily,

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01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: a production of the Cleveland Browns and eight fifty ESPN

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