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Speaker 1: M episode three thirty nine with Mitchell Tinpenny. You will

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Speaker 1: know him from this song right here and Copia no

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Speaker 1: hang over like you. He's got a lot more on

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Speaker 1: his on his resume as well. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's an hour and I actually had

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Speaker 1: a great time doing this talk. So Mitchell tin Penny,

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Speaker 1: who grew up here in Nashville, which is so rare

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Speaker 1: his successful My mind was blown later on when I say,

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Speaker 1: and you can listen to see what he says, but

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Speaker 1: I said, hey, anybody else you know you grew up

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Speaker 1: only did he name somebody, but he goes, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: so that comes up. But enjoy Mitchell Tinpenny, follow him

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Speaker 1: M one zero Penny, mit m tin Penny, get it

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Speaker 1: and here we go. It's Mitchell tin Penny myself here

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Speaker 1: on the Bobby Case. This is a special occasion because

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Speaker 1: I just got off the air. I mean, I drove home.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you come from home? It's a minute from yours.

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Speaker 1: Are you leaving? Yeah, I'm flying to Dallas right to this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we're both running right. So we lined it up,

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Speaker 1: but on the air for five hours, you're leaving immediately.

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Speaker 1: But we made it happen. And so if my voice

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Speaker 1: starts to sound like yours, that's being cool because you

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Speaker 1: it's really good to see you, man. It has I

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Speaker 1: feel like we've we ran into each other a couple

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Speaker 1: of times. A couple of times at the golf course,

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Speaker 1: probably when I was playing down in Brentwood with one

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Speaker 1: of my managers. Yea, a governor's Governor's club, and I

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Speaker 1: believe you had a broken golf club. I've just broke it.

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Speaker 1: I hit it was actually one of my only good

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Speaker 1: that happened. That's not usually how it happens. Usually, you know,

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Speaker 1: chips it out. So and you're what are you going today?

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Speaker 1: Heading to Dallas to do? Yeah? To do what I'm

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Speaker 1: eating a new PD up there because you got a

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Speaker 1: new song, new well, new song. But also it's just

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Speaker 1: you know, since my radio tour, a lot of things

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Speaker 1: So we're heading up there. It's gonna have dinner and

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Speaker 1: then come back tomorrow. Yeah. I guess my point is, Um,

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Speaker 1: of you know, you go, oh, I gotta make sure

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Speaker 1: I know everybody, got to make sure make those relationships

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Speaker 1: because they're so important. No, absolutely they are. And um,

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Speaker 1: yeah we have a new song and you know, doing

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Speaker 1: And um, so yeah, he's you know, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: of get going with Mitchell here, Uh, play drunk me

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Speaker 1: please COPI Sometimes you hear a song and just remind

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Speaker 1: looks like you know a mile a minute. Um, Here

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Speaker 1: And here is the current song truth about you? Here

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why I love this. I love that

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Speaker 1: hear a cover. Man. Man, So what's been happening with

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Speaker 1: be like, let's gonna live somewhere else for like a year. Yeah,

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00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: I get it. I get a little bit of it

424
00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,400
Speaker 1: because I get to travel all the time. But I've

425
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,359
Speaker 1: always thought that, man, I mean, it just happened to

426
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,040
Speaker 1: be that I'm in the perfect place for what I

427
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 1: ended up doing. But I am envious. I always think

428
00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,199
Speaker 1: it's so cool when someone moves um somewhere for to

429
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 1: pursue a dream, like my fiance from Canada to here.

430
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, all my friends and you know, back to

431
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,920
Speaker 1: what you were saying earlier, it's like they get to

432
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: go to their hometown and play a hometown show. Like

433
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 1: you go to your place it says home of Bobby Bones.

434
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't get a hometowl show. No one cares here,

435
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 1: you know. I got. I got to do the Rhyman

436
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 1: and that's amazing, Like, yeah, we've seen it before. So

437
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 1: I can't like come home to Nashville to have a

438
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 1: big bow out hometown show. It's like it's uh, I mean,

439
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: it's a blessing and a curse, I guess, but it's uh,

440
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,680
Speaker 1: it's pretty you know. I love Nashville, so much. I'm

441
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 1: so proud of this town. Um, but yeah it is.

442
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: It's a little different. You mentioned your fiancee, Megan. What

443
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 1: are you do you have a time when you're getting married?

444
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: And if you don't, if you haven't said it yet,

445
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 1: don't say it. October at it all right, at to

446
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 1: exactly two thirteen on the day. So I love Megan.

447
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation and I'm not uh

448
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: purposefully in as many of these high level level music

449
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,360
Speaker 1: meetings anymore because I just I like to do my thing.

450
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 1: I kind of don't with all the respect, I don't care, however,

451
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: my boss ish um cause it. Hey, I need to

452
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 1: ask you of your opinion. A couple of things you

453
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: bring a Megan remind me of this, like what do

454
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think of Megan? Thank Patrick?

455
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: And I said, well, what do you mean? What do

456
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: I think about her? He's like, do you know her?

457
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: Or like matterr matter with Mitchell um Nor music you

458
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,200
Speaker 1: know from just listen to stuff? And he goes, do

459
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: you think you think I think she has it? Like, yeah,

460
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:15,399
Speaker 1: she has what you can't manufacture somebody to have and

461
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: then believe it for a long time, like somebody can

462
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: do the little act for a year. Somebody can do that.

463
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, she has it.

464
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: And I don't know what they were trying to do,

465
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 1: but you know, they all these high level people getting

466
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: there like they can only decide on a few things

467
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: to really and he was like, I think so too,

468
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, she's raw, got energy, she

469
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: can sing like the same as you, right, Like you're raw,

470
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: you're a great singer. Like it to to be engaged

471
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: in to marry someone that's also doing the same thing

472
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: at around the same stage of of your careers. You're

473
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: obviously in a little different places, but you know, you're

474
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: not Brooks and Done yet, and one of these not

475
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: Brooks and One, he's done a new artist at that point, right,

476
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: you're kind of experienced a lot of together that would

477
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: be awesome and difficult. It's, uh, it's the only thing

478
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: we find about and it's probably what you relate to

479
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: each other the most about. It's yeah, well, you know,

480
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: I tell her. We told her. I was like, you know,

481
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 1: I fell in love with music before you and saying

482
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: and I want you to pursue this dream more than anything.

483
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: She's you know, every other ex I had would make

484
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: me choose, and you know I don't make me choose.

485
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: You're not gonna like the choice, and we don't make

486
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 1: each other choose that way. But if you come home

487
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 1: and you have a hard day in the music industry, um,

488
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: and I want to give you some advice, you don't

489
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: want that advice. You just wanted to I had a

490
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: hard day in the industry too. If you want to

491
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 1: come talk about your mom, your mom, you know you're

492
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: having problems with that, or your sister. You're arguing with

493
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: a sister. I'm there for you, but it's really hard

494
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: to communicate when you had a hard day in the industry.

495
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: It's it's it's very hard all the time. So we

496
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: came were like, hey, you know what we're not gonna

497
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: do talk about that. You have a hard day in

498
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: the industry, call your best friend, Landy Wilson, case Inton,

499
00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: you know who you come up with, tell them and

500
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: I'll do that with my my friends and then let's

501
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: let's come home and leave that behind. Otherwise, you know,

502
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 1: it gets pretty stressful. I mean, she's a woman too.

503
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: It's it's a whole different thing for us, and it's

504
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: it's tough. Man but what about traveling, because again you

505
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: have to hop on a plan and go eat dinner,

506
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: and that's part of the job. That's the nature of

507
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: the business. You have to play a bunch of shows.

508
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: She is a new new artist here. Um quite successful

509
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: in Canada, but you know, it's welcome to the big leagues.

510
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: She has big league talent. So she has to go

511
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: out now and show everyone. Do you guys mean what

512
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: what's that juggling? Like, Well, it's just starting back for

513
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: her now, which is great because yeah, you're right, she

514
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: came from Canada. Here she had to get do the

515
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: whole thing, get the booking agents, start building relationships. So

516
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: she's finally getting shows bolt here when she normally would

517
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: have done you know, a hundred something in Canada that

518
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: she couldn't do. Canada has been pretty shut down still

519
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: kind of is. So it's all opening back up now

520
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm I'm going today and I'm flying

521
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: back tomorrow and make it to her birthday. So you know,

522
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: we we we make it where like when when we're

523
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: when we're home, we everyone said, are y'all writing or

524
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,199
Speaker 1: singing when you're home? Like no, no, you're chilling on

525
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: the couch with our dogs and the opposite. Um, well,

526
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: I'll just wrap up with this on Megan and not

527
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: think I plan to talk about all this but you

528
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: when you mentioned I was like, oh, yeah, say a

529
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: couple of things. And Megan, if you happen to listen

530
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: to this, I'm such a big fan and advocate of

531
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: not just what you do, because everybody does everybody does that,

532
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: but how you do it? I think it. I think

533
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 1: that's a difference. And so yeah, just just a big

534
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: fan and the fact that she could go and do

535
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: a bunch of shows and get paid in Canada and

536
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: make a lot more money, and now she has to

537
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: sacrifice a bunch of money to kind of start over here.

538
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: That's why I've married her or if I am man,

539
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: she is inspiring and even to her man during Quarantine,

540
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: her songs, just her songwriting, Man, it was just all

541
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 1: U biased aside like she it was. I was like, man,

542
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: why didn't I come up with that title? How are

543
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: you know? How are you doing that? So being on

544
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: the lookout for I think she's got a lot of

545
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff coming up there. Do you

546
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 1: ever do that with It's tough, She's in the business

547
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: but like, my wife will say something so funny, like

548
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,959
Speaker 1: she's the funniest person I've ever met, my wife, and

549
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: she shouldn't be as funny as she is because she's pretty.

550
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, somebody got screwed because they got

551
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: they didn't get anything, like there's only so much to

552
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: go around you. You're pretty and you're hilarious, So somebody

553
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: is ugly and not funny because they actually gave you both.

554
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: And so she'll say something randomly and I'm like, oh

555
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: my god, that is so funny, and I want to

556
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: steal up for a joke for my stand up act.

557
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: And I used to do it all the time and

558
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: not tell her, and then I would do a joke

559
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: and she'd be like, where did you get that joke?

560
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: And what do you want to get the joke? I

561
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I just kind of came to my show.

562
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: I said that to you, and you stole it, and

563
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: you didn't say anything to me that you were going

564
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: to use it in a joke. And so I'm like,

565
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: then I try to lie and be like, no, I

566
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: probably said it to you, but it's absolutely her. Does

567
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: that ever happen? And like, you guys are an idea

568
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: that and you're like, oh, man, I love to have that, Like,

569
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: can I go with that idea? Yeah? Man, I mean

570
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: we you know, we we talk like songwriters too, sometimes

571
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: when we don't even know it. So she'll say something

572
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, grab my phone and just kind

573
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: of type it down. Or we'll be watching a movie

574
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: or something in a cool phrase will come out and well,

575
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: I'll notice how the corner of my eyes she's got

576
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: her phone too, and we're writing stuff town. It's like,

577
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, the you know, the Diary of a songwriter.

578
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: But man, it's a yeah, I'm with you, it's you

579
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: kind of you're together. It's here, it's both y'alls, but

580
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: shere's his mind. Right. Is it annoying that people? And

581
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it may not even be annoying, but

582
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: everybody's like, all right, when you guys gonna do a

583
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: big duet? Yeah, that's what I was saying. Yeah, it's like,

584
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, we don't we're at home,

585
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: we don't do that. I don't know. It's just not

586
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: something we we do when we're home together. We're trying to,

587
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully if we get to the Brooks and

588
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: done and we have more time on our heads maybe,

589
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: but right now we're both trying to you know, break

590
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: it together, you know or separately. Sorry. Craig Wiseman, Yes,

591
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: I say that name what what comes to mind? Um?

592
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: He helped me early on when I was starting Riser

593
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: House Records, giving me advice of how to start a

594
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: business to hire people that it's gonna take a year

595
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: and a half to figure out if someone's the right

596
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: person sometimes, and he had no reason to do that.

597
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: He wrote with me when I had no cuts. Um.

598
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: He is the epitome of what Nashville is man and

599
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I have the utmost respect for that guy and when

600
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: he's done and how he continues to want to write

601
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: with new people and stay current and be the legend

602
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: he is man. It's a He is somebody that I

603
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: will always think higlie of and preach to my kids,

604
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: to everybody about Craig Wiseman. Man, he is an amazing guy.

605
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: If you were doing amount rushmore for people that personally

606
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: inspire you as an artist, and you don't have to

607
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: have met them, but I don't want to make all

608
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: four of them. Um, people from the twenties, Yeah, right,

609
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: just because I actually I would like to eliminate that

610
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people feel pressured, so

611
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: I don't if you do or don't, I'm gonna eliminate it.

612
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: A lot of people felt pressured to go, well, whalon

613
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: and they can't name three Whitland song so they can't do.

614
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: And that's okay that they can't. But I think a

615
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of times this town, they're like, well, you probably

616
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: need to like at least act like you're a big

617
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: fan of the people to before. So I'm gonna eliminate

618
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: that current day, give me four people that inspire you

619
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: as an artist. As an artist, John Mayor for sure,

620
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm a massive John Mayer fan. And Michael Jackson. Um,

621
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: those two growing up, we're I don't know every kind

622
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: of everything I wanted to imitate musically. Um. And then

623
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean as far as the industry man, my my

624
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: manager does. She's young. She's like twenty five and just

625
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: crushing it. And she's only she might just turn yet.

626
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: I mean I remember when I met her years ago

627
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: and it was like, this is Mitchell's manager, and I

628
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: was like, wow, she's her head was so on straight

629
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: and still as at such a young age. She's incredible. Man,

630
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: she is pushing down walls and it's watching that. It's is,

631
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: it is, it's inspiring. It makes me want to work harder.

632
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: It makes me want to work harder for her. Um

633
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: the wholetel needs to know her name? Man, Kristin Nashley,

634
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: she's amazing. And then Kristen Nashley, Kristen Ashley, that's pretty good.

635
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Yeah, she's awesome. She's amazing, man. And

636
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: then um, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna put my

637
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: grandmother up there. I mean she was everything to me, inspiring,

638
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: the way she treated people, the way she walked into

639
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: a room and took it over, but humbly, like from Alabama.

640
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's just that's my grandmother. So I'm gonna

641
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that if that's my four Yeah. What

642
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 1: about her do you think made her such a success? Uh?

643
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: She was a godly woman. First off, you know she

644
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: had faith, Um, but she came from nothing, She had

645
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: no reason, and she was in that time women didn't

646
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: get those chances. She worked away up from receptionists at

647
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Sony to running the whole thing and just didn't take

648
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: no for an answer. But like this southern bell polite,

649
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: but like you didn't want to. I don't know, you

650
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: just you respect her. She treated everyone with that, and

651
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: that's why I you know, I was thirteen or fourteen

652
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: when she passed, so I didn't get like the music

653
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: industry stuff from her, but I got I was surrounded

654
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: by and I just got to watch how she treated

655
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: people and ran you know, her life, and it was

656
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: very inspiring to me that I wanted to take that

657
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: over from my family as that next person. You know,

658
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: she would hold all the Christmas parties, the family, every

659
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: birthday they come to hers, and it's like, that's what

660
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: I want to do. That's my goal now, is to

661
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, be a family person first and and do then.

662
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: I think everything kind of surrounds your you know, kind

663
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: of fits in place when you do that first. I

664
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: mean my business, your business family. You got to build

665
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: that strength and trust, and I think I learned that

666
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: from her, for sure. It's pretty cool that you had

667
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: such a positive influence that was influencing you without even

668
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: knowing you were being influenced. Like that's why I'm hearing,

669
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: like you have all these things that now affect your

670
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: life in a very positive way. But at the time

671
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: you didn't know you were a accepting them. No clue.

672
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: She was just grandmother. But uh, but she's a grandmother

673
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: with some with with some swagger for her. If she's

674
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: running ny, that's awesome. The song with you and Chris Young,

675
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: I didn't I want to play it again now? So

676
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: he wrote this. How how did this whole this uh

677
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: collaboration come together? Yeah, I've got to know Chris over

678
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: the last four years, she became friends and you know

679
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: you On that day it was Chris Young and Chris

680
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: and Stephano on my phone, so like you know, our

681
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: publishersual book dates and but that day was during quarantine

682
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: with quotation marks. I don't really know when that ended

683
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: her what it was. But and then um, it was

684
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: a snow apocalypse. So I was so, we haven't been

685
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: writing a lot. I hated zoom rights. So I called

686
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: Chris up and I was like, dude, I need to

687
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: get out of the house today. I need to write

688
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: a song. I know it's snow and he goes, boody,

689
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: I got four wheel drive, come on, let's go. So

690
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: we show up at to Stephan Knows and we just

691
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: started talking, you know, catching up again and been and

692
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: Wallison saw of us had done that, and Chris said

693
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: something like, man, you should have seen me and Mitchell

694
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the bar like a year ago,

695
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: were like we were we were, you know, vin and

696
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: talking about all the industry stuff. And I was like, oh, wait,

697
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: what did you say right there? I think that's that's

698
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: that's the song when you read today, because I met

699
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: you there, I met Megan there, I see my cold still,

700
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: see my ex there. I made best friends I don't

701
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: even know their name there. I was like, look, I

702
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 1: think that could be a cool song of writing. I

703
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: just wanted to Chris young cut because I love his

704
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: voice like more than anything. But then after the end

705
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: of that we wrote it, Chris like, we'll get on

706
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: in there and sing it, and I'm like, dang, man,

707
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: I really wanted you to sing it, so I got

708
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: in there. My voice is trash that day too, because

709
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: I've been singing a lot in my studio, and I

710
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: gave everything I had on it, man the demo, and

711
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: Chris called me two days later and he's like, man,

712
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: do you might have put a voke on it? And

713
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: I was like yes, yes, And I was like yeah.

714
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Then of course. And then two days later, Hey, buddy,

715
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: I think I want to put this on my record.

716
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's all happening. And then then he called

717
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: and he said, well, would you want to be a duet?

718
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: And you mind if it's the single? And I'm like,

719
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: it happened that fast for me a week because it's

720
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: so hard to get a cut, let alone a single,

721
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: And you know, all I wanted was, you know, Chris Young,

722
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: to hear Chris Young sing on a song of mine.

723
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: So it was just I don't know, it just kind

724
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: of happened really organically and fun, and it was just

725
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: one of those cool, cool things. And he's an amazing

726
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: singer man, so it was really fun to sing with him.

727
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: When you guys saying, I believe it's the A C

728
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: M S Right, that's the show, right, Yeah, we just

729
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: did just a couple of weeks ago in Vegas. Um,

730
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: being such a good singer and you're singing with somebody

731
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: else that's such a good singer, do you feel like

732
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be like, well, I really gotta I gotta

733
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: stretch it and try to get a little better, because

734
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: when you're by yourself, you're not you're not compared to

735
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: anybody well, of course, yeah, and especially up to him.

736
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: And that is the highest song I have in my catalog,

737
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: saying with him because that day, I really I was

738
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: trying to impress Chris Young and when we wrote it,

739
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: and so I sung it way too high and then

740
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: so now it's a challenge and dude, I had the

741
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: flu with the A C M S not God, I

742
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: had the flu, and so I had to get a

743
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: steroid shot. I had to. I was so scared that

744
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be able to hit the note. Um,

745
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, like you did in your mind.

746
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, the adrenaline kicked in. It was fun.

747
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's my first at M performance ever, and

748
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: so we just kind of like you do. You turn

749
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: it on and you figure it out and then you

750
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of black out and then it's over. And then

751
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's over. There's nothing to do about it now.

752
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a lot of good feedback,

753
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: and but I was so nervous all day. Man, to

754
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: be honest, what he really was being sick on a

755
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: performance day, especially a big performance. Say that you can't

756
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: really get out of yea and that steroid show. I've had,

757
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: I've just hadn did a bunch of time for all

758
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: just losing and for a second it's like this, you're awful.

759
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: Then you're like, whoa that's going and then when it

760
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: goes away, it's just like like a train's run you over.

761
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: You're very thankful. Did it exists and you were able

762
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: to use it powerful tool sparingly though, Yeah, you can't

763
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: use it too much. It's just not really helping. It's

764
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: it's hiding the help and it's not healthy. But it's

765
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: not helping her healthy. Yeah, so you use them when

766
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: you absolutely have to, that's yeah, But but there's the

767
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: fact that they exist. Yes, it just saved my life

768
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: five times for sure. A few for me too. I'll

769
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: be in a city once we were snowed in and

770
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: a casino in Iowa that, Mike, do you remember that,

771
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: as sick as a dog, we went and track down

772
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: a steroid shot and I'd be behind like a bowling

773
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: alley and a waffle house even a Yeah, it was

774
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: like a hash Brown special and and I remember I

775
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: just felt terrible, but layd in bed, going there's no

776
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: chance that I'm going to fill in you. Oh and

777
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: then afterwards you're just alright, congrats on that. Though for

778
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, the big Awards show, it's you know what's

779
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: great about that for you? Is it now that you

780
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: have your first one? It's almost like this is my

781
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: audition tape for other shows. If you're like considering me

782
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: and you're on the fence, watch me do it. I

783
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: didn't think about the Yeah, man, absolutely, it was awesome.

784
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: It was an honor. Man. That's just to sit down

785
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: there in the artist with everybody and you know, I

786
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: have an artist, our respect come up saying, man, that

787
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: was awesome, really great. I mean, whether they were just

788
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: being a nice or not, that it feels good. It

789
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: inspires you. Man, it was a lot of fun. You

790
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: wrote a Christmas song for Dan and Shay um So,

791
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: I have two questions and like, can I hear a

792
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: little bit this first? Chris? So, My first question is

793
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: when you write a song like this and you talk

794
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: about writing it high low, are you in Shay and

795
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: the same you sing in near the same vocal spot?

796
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 1: He's he's he's definitely a highest. He's got more ranged

797
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: in me. Okay, But I'm not saying range or better singer,

798
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, when you in your most present singing voice,

799
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: are you in him and his? Are you around the same? Yeah?

800
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think we can. Yeah, I think so.

801
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: So when you ride, is it pretty easy for him

802
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 1: to do it? Like, oh yeah, I mean he's such

803
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: an amazing melodic person. Like he's just so good. I

804
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just you kind of just like like

805
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 1: you said, you kind of just gotta up your game

806
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: when you're around. He's, in my opinion, the best singer,

807
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: and I mean not just Nashville that I've ever heard.

808
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: Control wise, he is just so good. So like even

809
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: like you know, when you're growing up learning guitar, you're

810
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: you want to put yourself in the room with people

811
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: that are better than you because it makes it ups you.

812
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: And he is definitely that. So to me, I don't know,

813
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: it's just something happens those days because you just like

814
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: really want to be able to do what they're doing,

815
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: and then I think you and then you'll leave and

816
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: you can't do what you just did in the room,

817
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: if that makes any sense at all. He's that kind

818
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: of singer, man, So I mean, he truly is the

819
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: best I've never heard him seeing have a bad day.

820
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: Like ever, he's just like incredible, he really is. I

821
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: have um yeah, yeah yeah, opt on his tour bus

822
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: once and he was in his underwear. He has slept

823
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: until like Daniels are already running hills and that day

824
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: was still asleep into like one pm. Like like that's

825
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: a bad day, right, you have it right there, buddy, Yes,

826
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: let's let's let's say um but yes, but I would

827
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: he would probably say similar things about you as far

828
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: as how good of a singer that you are. And

829
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: with that song, my prediction, well prediction forward face my

830
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: um suspicion with that song that song specifically Christmas song

831
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: is it? It It made a lot of money. I don't

832
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: even know, you know, I have to look. I mean

833
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: that one was kind of me and Andy and Jordan's

834
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: started that song and then we ended up writing Naughty

835
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: List for my record and then they gave that the

836
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Then Dan and Shaye added to that song. So my

837
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what addition is. It did extremely well.

838
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: I hope so that watch was bought probably with just

839
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: that song. Uh yeah maybe, I hope so. I just

840
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: my business manager hasn't yelled at me yet, That is

841
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: all I care about. As long as she doesn't scream

842
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: at me, then I feel okay, do you ever call her?

843
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: And I did this a lot whenever I first started

844
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: to have any taste of success, I didn't know what

845
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: a business manager was. To be honest, I didn't grow

846
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: up in an industry un industry. I didn't. I still

847
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: didn't didn't write. So they're like, well, I was having

848
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: to pay people, right, I started to pay um a

849
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: tour manager. I was having to pay people. And when

850
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: I was doing cord, there's all all these percentages, was

851
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: trying to pay man and and finally I was like,

852
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: you have to get a business manager. I was like,

853
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: I have enough manager or any pay anybody else. They said, well,

854
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: they'll do all that for you. They just get a

855
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: really small percentage, but you don't worry about anything anymore.

856
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, I just I couldn't understand it,

857
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: couldn't Now. I can't live without her. But I would

858
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: call anytime I was gonna buy anything. Hey, I'm I

859
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: got a new heir headphones? Is that okay? Enough? And

860
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: so I would make those calls and I will do

861
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: that now occasionally, um, But do you have to do

862
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: that now? If it's like I'm gonna buy a nice watch,

863
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: do you call and check it? Like? Are we cool here? Yeah?

864
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: I definitely do. I mean I'm not. I'm not, you know,

865
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: crazy rich by any means. You know, we're living okay,

866
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: we're blessed, but I do. It's just it's just out

867
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: of respect to everyone else, you know, I want to

868
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: make sure that I don't buy something and I can't

869
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: pay another obligation. But to your point, like I couldn't

870
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: live without her, she does that and I asked her

871
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: and she's be like, yeah, okay, you're fine, We're okay,

872
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: just you know, chill out on the chill out on

873
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: the on the drinks at the bar that you're buying

874
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: people and you refuse. And you know what, I appreciate

875
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: that about you. Yeah, it's it's and I think until

876
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: I actually for me, it was about I had to

877
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: pay so many percentages and I was I would sit

878
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: there with a notebook and in my computer and be like, Okay,

879
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: if I get to this person, I gotta docks. I

880
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: spent all my time doing it, and I'm very like

881
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: that too. I enjoyed doing my bills and then you know,

882
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: I was paying my band, and then I realized I

883
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: wasn't taking taxes out. I got screwed, you know, when

884
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: we were in a van and all that. And it's

885
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: like when she said I'm gonna handle it all. I mean,

886
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: you play forty eight states. There's a different tax in

887
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: every state. It's unbelievable. Who does that. She will send

888
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: me said, hey, you need to send sign your California

889
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: tax returning. I don't live in California. Did a stack

890
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: you know? It's as high as his water bottle of

891
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 1: tax you know, of every state and all this stuff.

892
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is what you do every day.

893
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: She loves it, and I'm very grateful for those kind

894
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: of people, because I would lose my head. There'll be

895
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: no chance. And I never learned it and I never will.

896
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why I was to pull or

897
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: to understand it or think I would ever know anything

898
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: about money? Yeah, just we never We never had anything.

899
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: And then I made a lot of money quickly. So

900
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: then I was like, I'll just I need to hire

901
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: people to do it. Why do I need to know?

902
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: So I was too poor to understand, and now I'm

903
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: just like, I don't. I never I'll never understand. I'm

904
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: just dumb, and I'm just gonna have people do it

905
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: until I can't afford it anymore, and then I'm just

906
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: gonna go back being dumb again and not do it. Well,

907
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: you've been there before, you know you can. I don't

908
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: know that. If this ever doesn't work out anymore, I

909
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: can't get back. And I'm telling you right now, there's

910
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: not a ladder to get back here. This is my

911
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: one shot. No, no, I mean, like you know, yeah,

912
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. I mean, if it doesn't work

913
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: out whatever, I'm ill. I know I've made it with

914
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: nothing before. I'll do it again. That's my thing. I

915
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: won't make it. I will not do it again. I'll

916
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: just go work at the mill. Well yeah, yeah, I

917
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: mean I'm all homeless aside. If we had to go

918
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: back to a van, i'd quit, like, but you wouldn't.

919
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: And that's the truth. Yeah, probably you would. You do

920
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: it and you love it, And you know what. If

921
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: I was kicked off of here, I'd go. I'd go

922
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: back to Arkansas. I'd lick my wounds and I probably

923
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: hop on a station in Fayetteville, Arkansas and be like

924
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: here we go let's see if we can. Because we

925
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: love what we do, and that's with anyone and what

926
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: they do. If you love what you do, you work

927
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: harder at it. If you work hard at something long

928
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: enough and smart enough, you will be successful in your

929
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: your own version of success. I totally believe that. I

930
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: love that. So we're just a few weeks out from

931
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: the low Light Sessions, the actual data that is April fifteen.

932
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: One song out now, Horseshoes and hand Grenades. Uh here,

933
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: let me play do you have? Oh nice? So feel

934
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: don't see the cowshoes? And so what what's what's what's

935
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: the vibe with these next eight songs inside of this

936
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: the low Light Sessions? Yeah, man, just just you know,

937
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: not as produced up. There's you know, nothing that I

938
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: went in like, oh, we gotta make something that sounds

939
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: very radio single. These are more singer songwriter, deeper lyrics,

940
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: which I hope could work at radio too. But they're

941
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: they're more, you know, stuff that I wanted to write

942
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: and I've been one to put out for five years.

943
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: Some older songs from the first girl I met that

944
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: didn't work out to the last songs about Megan and

945
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: uh and everything in between, and just you know, just

946
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: deeper lyrics and just a chiller vibe, something like low

947
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: light sessions. You can kind of chill out, you know,

948
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: sitting the fire, drive around and not even listen, but

949
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: just here in the background. I like that that unoffensive

950
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: won't hurt your ears. You could you could be playing

951
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: anywhere and you'll you know, it'll be a good vibe.

952
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Chili's I want to be my case,

953
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: so skill it and I want to hear grenade. That's

954
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Going to get a case of skillet.

955
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: Do you know where you guys are going tonight? No? Um, no,

956
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: I don't make sure. Hope I have and your uncle uncle, Well,

957
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: it'll be aunt Sonny tonight. It's my page. Is my

958
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: region out there? Yeah? Aunt Sony will be paid to night.

959
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: What time? What times you fight? Three? Okay, we're wait

960
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: a few minutes. I just got a backpack with a

961
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: shirt in it. I'm gonna walk right there. It's and

962
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: then you're gonna not spend the night or get on

963
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: a flight tonight and come back. I'm gonna spend a night.

964
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: We were gonna do lunch and come back, but couldn't

965
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: find one. I was like, let's just come back in

966
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: the morning. I used to do that whenever I was

967
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: a radio guy, and like before I started syndicating my

968
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: own show, and I was just hustling. Um, I would

969
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: fly places. Well, what I would do is I would

970
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: hit up people and be like, Hey, I'm gonna be

971
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: in town. Are you free for lunch. I'm in town

972
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: for like a day. And I wasn't going to be

973
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: in town, But once they would agree to lunch, I'd

974
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: freaking I'll buy me a flight on Southwest. I'd fly

975
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: over meet m for lunch and be like all right,

976
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: and then I'll just fly back home. And it would

977
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: be exhausting. But they would not go to lunch. They

978
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened. I was like, Hey, I want to

979
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: fly in and meet you for lunch, and they say, no,

980
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: don't do that. That's crazy. You're you're crazy. But I're like, hey,

981
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in town. Any chance you want to

982
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: grab lunch? Like five times out of six they would

983
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: say yes. And I made a lot of my relationships

984
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: that way, very smart man, by just hustling and and

985
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, wearing it out. And so when you mentioned

986
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: the last song is about Megan on this is that

987
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: the way you are about her and you wrote it

988
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: by yourself. Was that important to you when writing a

989
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: song about her to write it by yourself or is

990
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: that just how it happened. Yeah, man, I wanted to

991
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: write that song. I'm not gonna sing for her at

992
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: my wedding this song, but I wrote the song thinking

993
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: about the wedding and thinking about that whole how we

994
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: how do we get to the point of wanting to

995
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: marry each other? And how did I fall in love

996
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: with somebody so much that I want to marry you?

997
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: And so I'm not I don't want to do the

998
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: cliche like here, I'm gonna make this whole moment about

999
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: me when you're walking down the aisle. But I wanted

1000
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: to write the song about her walking down the aisle,

1001
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: and so, you know, that's kind of where where my

1002
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: head was that when I wrote that, and I was

1003
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: just you know, we were still in the same house.

1004
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: This was during quarantine stuff. So I'm just downstairs in

1005
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: my studio writing and hoping she's upstairs not listening, and uh,

1006
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: and she's feet in the bathroom. I'm just hoping she's

1007
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: not near her me listening because I'll be a little embarrassed.

1008
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: I'll be like, man, I turn on a blow dryer

1009
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: and just do my thing when you ride your bathroom. Okay, okay,

1010
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: So you write the song, and how do you when

1011
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 1: you write a song about someone, especially one that's very

1012
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: vulnerable and personal. Will you play it for her with

1013
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: your guitar in mouth? Or will you play it for

1014
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: her after you record a demo? UM I had her

1015
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: could just come down listen to it. M guitar and

1016
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: mountains like weird, dirty weird things. You gave her guitar

1017
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: and mouth. I gave her a little guitar and mouth

1018
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: last night. And then what then what not what happens,

1019
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: but what happens because she has to listen and there's

1020
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: now a reaction that she needs to give you, even

1021
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: if she's not I'm not gonna say feeling it, but

1022
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: if you're making yourself so vulnerable, she owes you something

1023
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: in vulnerability back, even just to make you feel like

1024
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: it's even it's the toughest thing then because she'll come

1025
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: home too with that same thing. I just wrote this

1026
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: song about you today. You want to hear it? Yeah,

1027
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: of course? And then you and then you hear it,

1028
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: It's like, it's not that, Like, what reaction are you

1029
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: looking for? Like, I don't know what. Like I'm more

1030
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: now I'm thinking about the reaction, and said listening to

1031
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: the song because I don't want her to think that

1032
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: I don't love it. I'm sure she got some of that.

1033
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean she you know, she teared up actually on it. Really,

1034
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: so you got emotion that one. Yeah, that was a

1035
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: good one. No, I mean, we were very honest when

1036
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: it comes to songs. Man, that's just the way it is.

1037
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: We We write a million of them, but that one

1038
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: she did. And then she just wrote one call my

1039
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: left Hand, that the best thing about my left hand

1040
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: is a ring on it from the right man. And

1041
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: that one got me, you know, I was that that

1042
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: was like, Now, I was like, dang, dude, you really

1043
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: you really got me on that one. So every now

1044
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: and then, those songs do work. I'm gonna play the

1045
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: way you are just thinking about that's good. If I

1046
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: were to write my left hand because I'm left handed,

1047
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: that would be dirty. All right, here we go, Here

1048
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: is the way you are. So you can fear my

1049
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: happy girl singing along to the read the movie jee

1050
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Minoria I'll be proving an amazing don't change a thing

1051
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: about because I love you just the way I would

1052
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: like if I were you and an artist and a songwriter.

1053
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: If she said, hey, listen to this song, I would

1054
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: be going, Okay, now, am I listening with my heart?

1055
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: Am I trying to listen to how deep the words

1056
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: are as to me? Or am I listening for the hook?

1057
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: Like going, hey, this would be this is a great

1058
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: catchy song. It is. It's almost like I would really

1059
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: be given into me and then go I want to

1060
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: go away. Let's do it by myself a few times,

1061
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: and then let me have my my thoughts on both

1062
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 1: because I may not give you what you're looking for.

1063
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: As far as why you were looking for me to

1064
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: listen to the song, No, that's very fair. I mean, yeah,

1065
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: it's the what you do with when you live with

1066
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: another artist and a songwriter for sure. And like like

1067
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: we just said, man, it was I don't know that one.

1068
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: That one worked, But I've done it before and did

1069
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: not get the reaction I was expecting. And I'm I

1070
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: know I've even heard the not giving her the reaction

1071
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: she's expected you, especially when we're like driving the car

1072
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: and I truly just don't want it, Like I want

1073
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: to turn on old pop punk music and she's got demos,

1074
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, like and like no offense to her at all.

1075
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like, can we listen to those later? But

1076
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: she really wants to play them. Then it's like my

1077
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: heads is not in the like hearing any of it.

1078
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: It's it's all great, she's great. So it's like I

1079
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: know it's great, but I'm just not there so I know.

1080
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: And then I'm sure I give that to her too,

1081
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: and I'm in the truck, I'm like, hey, I gotta

1082
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: do move, you know, And it's it's gotta be the

1083
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: same way I like it to do a movie voice

1084
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: that when it's a demo and my mine is on

1085
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: such a lower level than yours. But there are times

1086
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 1: where I write a song that is so freaking funny

1087
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: that I will I will write it, I will laugh

1088
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: out loud, I will think about it and laugh out loud.

1089
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: I will randomly laugh out lot and what you laugh

1090
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: a loud about myself? I'm like, oh, yeah, that song

1091
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: I wrote, like it's that funny to me, And then

1092
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: I will play it for Caitlin and she'll go, oh

1093
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: is that one of those. Is that a serious when

1094
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: you tried to write yes, and I'm like, she's like,

1095
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there are some funny parts. And I'm like,

1096
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: oh man, that I suck. And then I have to

1097
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: get over my little my little pride. I'm like, how

1098
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: would you make it funnier? It's like, well, what I

1099
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: would do? And I'm like, oh, that's that's perfect. God

1100
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 1: dam I mean, that's why we have Oh man, that's

1101
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: why we're lucky. It's okay, keep us in checking. I

1102
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: don't know, man, it's a deal with it too. It's funny.

1103
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: It's it's just funny. It is. What if we see

1104
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: each other, We're gonnae each other a lot over the

1105
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: next few years, unless I die a plane crash, which

1106
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: I still think could happen. You heard it here first,

1107
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: I say it a lot. Yeah. Um, I'm really scared

1108
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: iFly so me too. If in five years we're sitting

1109
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: down the same situation, like then, we've only really said

1110
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: like this, you know a few times of the last

1111
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: five years, Mitchell, like, we're in five years, do you

1112
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: feel like you need to be And I don't care

1113
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: what what platform you choose, where do you need to

1114
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: be to go like, yeah, I feel good about where

1115
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: I am right now. What's that goal I want? I

1116
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: want a kid or two with megan, um, and I

1117
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: want music to not be why I have to make money.

1118
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: I want to be financially sound so that music is

1119
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: just music again, you know. Right now it's my job

1120
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to set it up, like I want

1121
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: to make money in music, put it in something else

1122
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: to make me money so I never have to think

1123
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: about it again. Then I can just pick up a guitar,

1124
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: go to my kids game, you know, like I want to.

1125
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: I want kids and I want to watch them grow up,

1126
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be on the road this much.

1127
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: That would be my goal in five years and hopefully

1128
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: you know we can get to that point. Um yeah.

1129
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: And you know, and obviously just to still be in

1130
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: this industry in five years, man, that would be a

1131
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: That'd be a huge blessing. That's a big win. Yeah,

1132
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: just to be in, to stay in, I mean, somebody

1133
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: believes in you, somebody's investing in you, Somebody thinks that

1134
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: you got enough in you that they can make something.

1135
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: And just being in is a win. Um. I think

1136
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: sometimes it and I get lost too with like, wow,

1137
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: I wish I could do this, have this show to

1138
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: this award. But in the end that's definitely doesn't matter

1139
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: as much as we think it does. In the moment

1140
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: it's happening, right, I got all the awards. I'm telling you, well,

1141
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: the second you get it, you forget about it because

1142
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: you went the next I do immediately. It's not even that.

1143
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: It's like mine too, isn't just about the next It's about,

1144
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: oh god, well if I don't win the next one,

1145
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm a freaking loser. Yeah, you're done. It's not it's

1146
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: not like I'm cocky. It's like, well, I won this one,

1147
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: but if I don't want the next one, I'm on

1148
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: the way down and I'm out of here and I

1149
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: don't get to work anymore. Well, it's just competitive and understanding.

1150
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just you. This industry is such a

1151
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: roller coaster, man, and it is what it is. And

1152
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: it's very hard, you know, It's it's it's hard, Like

1153
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I tell all the time, these songs. I had to

1154
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: learn that these songs aren't my babies, they're my business.

1155
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: And I've got to you know you, it's a really

1156
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: hard thing to put that aside and figure that out

1157
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: and understand that. Man, you're gonna you'll have a high

1158
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: moment and then you could be two weeks later. This

1159
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: industry is what have you done for me lately? And

1160
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: it takes a toll on everybody. Man, it's there's no

1161
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: doubt about it. But what's it? Do you think about

1162
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: what you said a second ago and you're talking about

1163
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: your goals? He said, you know, you want to make

1164
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: music to not have to make money. And listen, if

1165
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: you make money, great, that's amazing. But you want to

1166
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: make me But what's funny is your goal is to

1167
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: be back where you started. Because I feel like that

1168
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways too, because I didn't make

1169
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: any money. I was doing it because I love to

1170
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: do it, and that's the only reason I did it.

1171
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: And I never thought I would make money because nobody

1172
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: made money around me. It wasn't a job you can

1173
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: make money in. But I just loved it and I

1174
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: was okay not making money because I was fulfilled, like

1175
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: I was already in my mind successful because I was

1176
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: doing what I love and if I could just stay

1177
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: in it, that's a win. That was the beginning. That's

1178
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: the beginning. For you too, because you weren't you're not

1179
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: making any money in the early on. Then you get

1180
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: the middle stage where you've got to make money because

1181
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: you got bills, you got a But you want to

1182
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: get back to that feeling like when you first started

1183
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 1: that that then is in the evity? Is it aware, naiveness?

1184
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what is it, but it's like you know,

1185
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: any you get a little bit of success, you start

1186
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: thinking you know everything, and that's when stuff stops happening.

1187
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: But I thought that before I had success. Yeah, yeah,

1188
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: but when you get but I want to get back

1189
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: to like, you know, not knowing any rules, not knowing

1190
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: any better. I think that's when some of the best

1191
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: stuff happened. And I think that is some of the

1192
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: best stuff that came out of you know, the COVID

1193
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: thing was I I quit trying to do everything for

1194
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: everyone else and started writing music again like that, you know,

1195
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: And I want to get to a place right it

1196
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: is so free that I have nothing else to worry

1197
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: about except the music. Again, that's very poignant, and I

1198
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: like that because I believe too that not knowing the

1199
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: rules is actually better than breaking the rules, because I'll

1200
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: use my career as an example, I have never had

1201
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: a mentor or anyone to tell me, hey, look that's

1202
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: really not how we do it, or that's how to

1203
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: do it. And I didn't like that. I was like, man,

1204
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm always just floating vote, I'm solo. Um. However, I

1205
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: did think so different than every everybody else, and I

1206
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: was always told it was weird and I never fit

1207
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: until you realize you're not weird. You don't fit anymore.

1208
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's weird for not trying to fit into what you've created,

1209
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: and now you've to And so me, not knowing the

1210
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: rules was the greatest thing that ever happened to me,

1211
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: because I made my own and I made my own path,

1212
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, I messed up a lot, but not knowing

1213
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: allowed me to go in places that other people really

1214
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: hadn't been. Yes, that's why you're here. I don't know

1215
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: by that, I mean that's a luminati. But still, well,

1216
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: I thought we weren't talking about that. Okay, listen here,

1217
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: we've done an hour here. It's been a lot of fun.

1218
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we've really enjoyed this Probby thing. Yeah,

1219
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: we were trying to get you in already. And then

1220
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: Michael was like, hey, he's leaving, can you fly home?

1221
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, what's your name again?

1222
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: What was that? Was that guy? And then after he

1223
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: showed me a picture of you? I was like, I

1224
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: remember that, just a little me. I live right down

1225
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: the road. We go golf whenever you won't. And so

1226
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: are you? Are you good? No, I'm like a I'm

1227
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: like a ten. Okay, I'm gonna hold you up better

1228
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: than I am. I know you're better than I'm like

1229
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: a twelve or thirteen. We'll probably the same. No, you're

1230
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: better than I am. And I have a little machine

1231
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: out there, and I still I'm not good. I did

1232
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: see that very envious. I need one of those in

1233
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: my life. That's when I know I'll make it. That

1234
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: Bobby bones it's pretty. I'm not gonna have all the

1235
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: things that's pretty. But I should be better and I'm not,

1236
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: because well, I'm gonna give you my platter of meat

1237
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: and cheese here. I work a lot. Yeah, I am

1238
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: constantly working. Therefore I can afford that. Yeah, but because

1239
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm working so much, I can't really get on that.

1240
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 1: And because I'm not on that that much, I don't

1241
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: have time to go play the core. So it's a

1242
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: weird situation here, Isn't that what it is? Man? You

1243
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: buy all this stuff and can't use it because it's

1244
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: the only way you're able to buy in your face off,

1245
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: and you still keep working your face off. That's why

1246
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: it's like, spend your money now, man, because that I'm not.

1247
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm scared of money. I'm scared of it.

1248
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. Um I. My therapist

1249
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: says that people that and generally that uh don't have

1250
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: a lot either are very selfish with their money and

1251
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: hide and keep it all or give it all away.

1252
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: And I very much so to a detriment in that

1253
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: second one where I'm just like, oh, you want here,

1254
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: why don't you take Let me help you here, let

1255
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: me do this, let me help you. And I know

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Speaker 1: for a fact if I wanted, nobody's gonna help me.

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00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: You know, of those idiots, I think I'll be like

1258
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: I always spent it. Man. But that's more of my

1259
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: point is you can have the golf simulator when you watch,

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00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: I'll just pick it up the truck. It's the size

1261
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: about five trucks. But yeah, we'll make it. Okay, okay,

1262
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: Mitchell Tenpenny. Uh, we're gonna we'll actually go over this

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00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: again the week that you're the low Light sessions come out.

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: But for everyone out there, you can get horses and

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00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: hand grenades. Can you pre save this? Yeah, it's a

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00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: it's tough for pre sale now. And that's the song

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00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: that comes. You know. What is an onliner The fact

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00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: that people are like, hey, going and pre like and

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: pre save my song. I'm like, well, I don't know

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00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: that I like it or want to save it yet,

1271
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: but I understand why you're getting me too. But what's next? Hey,

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00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: go ahead and click that button? So when I think

1273
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: of an idea, your you get first DIBs on it.

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a weird situation. But if you

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00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: had that button, I push it. And that's my point.

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00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: I pushed the dang button, Megan. I push your button, Megan.

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00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: I would like so you guys check it out again.

1278
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: The new single is we're playing it. You got to

1279
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: You got two songs on the radio right now. That's

1280
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: what I was confusing to me, because you have Yours

1281
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: is actually on the chart now. It just this week, yeah,

1282
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: just charted. I just want to get a little red

1283
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: arrow beside it, and that's it, and that's a big deal.

1284
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: You got the look. That's the goal to keep the

1285
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: little red arrow. And then so truth about you and

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00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: here's the clip of that one more to if you last.

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: And then Chris Young and Mitchell tin Penny uh the

1288
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: duet here and I will say this, you're double dipping

1289
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: here and I like that you're on it and you're

1290
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 1: getting publishing too because you wrote it. Spent a minute

1291
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: since we've been up here, So thank you. It's going

1292
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: to have to read Mitchell is here, ask him one

1293
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: Our final question is from read read was caller tent?

1294
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: So we got to be part of this interview? Um,

1295
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: no he's not either, he's our video guy. I'll say, well,

1296
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you read. What's your question? All right?

1297
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: Let's see, since recording equipment is like so accessible nowadays,

1298
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: like you probably have a home studio, Um, how often

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00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: do you end up recording parts at home that end

1300
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: up in the final cut? Or you mainly do a

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00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: good question, sir? Are you mainly just doing demos and

1302
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: stuff like that? A lot of demos? Who you are?

1303
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: Everything I did down there that um, the whole things

1304
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: just played at all, wrote it all, did it down there,

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01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: and I just sent it off to Jeff Brown to

1306
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: get mixed. I'm not to make sure I do not

1307
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: have those years, but produced it, played it, recorded everything

1308
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: down there with you know, I have a universal audio

1309
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: preamp and a knee and and then I mean a

1310
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: compressor and a knee preamp and into a manly man

1311
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: and that's all you need now. I used to I have.

1312
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: I have like a hundred microphones I need to just

1313
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: sell because you don't need them anymore. Man, I don't

1314
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: need to do a whole drum kid. I've got to

1315
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: I've gotta lect your kid that goes through the computer

1316
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: and it's playing real drums. Like I was with near Z,

1317
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: an amazing drummer yesterday, and I programmed using his drums already.

1318
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: So but then I went into the studio for him

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01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: to do real drums. I'm like, hey, can you do

1320
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: it like I did it with your drums on the computer?

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01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: Plase it was. It's a weird thing, man, But yeah, man,

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: I I do a lot of back and forth and

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01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: overdubs in my studio to Yeah, I stopped listening, I

1324
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: don't know, five or six aboards then because I'm gonna

1325
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: talking about I was just really waiting for you you to

1326
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: turn your chair around and talking again. The one thing

1327
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: I did here, you say, because I understood the words,

1328
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: is we have too many microphones. You don't need them all. Now,

1329
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Speaker 1: my wife might say that about my shoes. I'm right

1330
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: there with you on that one. Yeah, and she likes

1331
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 1: shoes too, but I think even with mine, she's like, hey,

1332
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: you don't have that many feet like you don't you

1333
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: won't have that many feet. Um. So that part I

1334
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: understand that I related to. Okay, Mitchell, t we did.

1335
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: We've done an hour look at us. That's how you know.

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01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: This was a plus. And the funny thing is we're

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01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna start recording now. So this was all like we're

1338
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: good and warm. Now follow follow Mitchell m the number

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01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: ten penny. You see what you did. They're in ten

1340
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 1: penny um, and follow him on TikTok to guys things

1341
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Yeah, I love TikTok. Come on, come on over, Mitchell.

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01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: Good to see you, buddy, Good luck and have fun

1343
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: at your dinner and we'll talk to you sim