WEBVTT - Butyl Acrylate Everywhere But Not a Drop to Drink 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:08.320 In a world where you end up standing in a 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:15.160 two hour line to buy mediocre and not climate friendly water. Sorry, 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:18.439 this is it could happen here. Uh, this is Sophie. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.400 I really wanted to do that for a really long time. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.880 Well now I want to watch it. Thank you that 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.640 those voices you hear are James Stout and Margaret Kildroy 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.319 and we're here. We're here to talk about the water 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:35.960 crisis that seems to be getting worse and uh, these 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:41.919 United States. Yeah, James, what's what's it? What's what's what's happening? Well, 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.760 and ever things are happening, right. I think should probably 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.839 emphasize at the start that water contaminants have been affecting 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.560 people outside of like the kind of colonial core for 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:56.160 a very long time long and and uh, legacy corporate media, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:57.640 whatever you want to call it, hasn't given it a 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.280 solitary fuck about it until it affects people inside the 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.479 colonial core. So what we're seeing right now is in 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:10.440 two places. East I believe it's pronounced Palestine, right, I 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:14.400 believe so too, Yeah, yeah, okay, East Palestine, Ohio. And 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:22.160 in Philadelphia I believe it's pronounced phil A Delphia. Okay, 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.160 they did like someone's name, like Phil. It was named 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.280 for Phil a Delphia, the founder of the city Phil 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.800 from Delphia. Like the oracle. I see, he predicted that 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.160 one day there would be a spill from a PLC 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.720 chemical plant near the Delaware River, and famously he was right. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.240 We've they built a city there anyway. Yeah, yeah, and 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.360 for years they've been so angry about not having a 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:49.400 chemical plant, they've just climb lamp post and throwing batteries 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.160 at a boasting football teams. Yeah. And I feel really 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.120 good about starting with such heavy jokes about this thing. Yeah. Yeah, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.400 it's three million people, I think anyway. Yeah, if you're 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.960 in philadel we do want to express solidarity with you, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.440 I guess as you wonder what the fuck to do 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:11.680 about your water supply, which is currently contaminated, as we understand, 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:17.080 by something called beautiful acrelate, which is a chemical that 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:21.919 is found in paint. And the reason that there is 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:23.840 a paint chemical in your drinking water if you live 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:28.200 in Philadelphia is that a PLC manufacturing chemical plant called 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:32.799 I think it's trinso tr I n SEO had a leak, 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.440 and that leak when it's a storm, drain that storm 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.880 drain went into the Delaware River, and that river feeds 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:42.960 into the Samuel s Backs to water treatment plant, and 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.280 obviously that water treatment plant feeds into the tap that 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:47.000 you turn on to drink water when you live in 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.760 your house. And this has, as it always does when 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:57.559 there are like these somewhat bungled announcements of chemical contamination 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:02.080 in drinking water. Caused people to shout to buy bottled water, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.160 which is an understandable response if you think you're not 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.280 going to be able to drink water, which is caused 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.480 people to wait in long lines to access sometimes like 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:12.400 a limited supply of water. And what we wanted to 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.600 talk about today a little bit was not so much 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.919 like what to do if you're in Philadelphia right now, 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:23.359 but how we can better prepare to be ready for 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.600 water emergencies, water shortage, is water contamination, things like that, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.240 which is why Margaret has joined us, because she is 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:36.040 the prepper anarchist queen and knows a lot about these things. 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.920 So yeah, Margaret, should we I think you said you 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.440 wanted to break us down by like bad things it 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.240 could be in your water, and things you can do 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:45.240 to get those bad things away, right, Yeah, Although I 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:49.480 will say only a minority of this information directly relates 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.680 to people who are dealing with toxic chemical spills. So 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.040 if we're I have a lot of information about general 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.040 water safety, it's long term storage of water, things that 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.360 you don't want in your how to get those things 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.200 out of your water? And I know you have a 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.920 lot of experience with that stuff too. Um. But the 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:10.680 very specific thing that people first in Ohio and now 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.560 in Pennsylvania are dealing with, um of chemical stuff is 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.560 worse than other stuff and way harder to get out, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:23.760 especially on a DIY level. UM. So I don't know 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.039 what what feels best like, should we do an overview 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:27.799 or should we try and first talk about the chemical 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.919 stuff and then talk about like the fun easy stuff 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.880 like not getting giardio when you're camping. Yeah, let's maybe 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.560 start out with the kind of this is the scary 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:40.400 you know, you can't buy a LifeStraw for this, fear first, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.240 fund later, Yeah, because people might be listening and they 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:45.839 might be afraid of they might be concerned that they 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.080 might be in one of these places. Right, Michigan, we 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.920 still haven't fucking fixed the water, Yeah, And so yeah, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:57.640 let's start fucking flint Michigan. What a just disasters incompetence. Yeah, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:01.800 I mean yeah, it's it's extremely sad that the country 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.760 that is as rich as any country has ever managed 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:08.159 to be in human history is still poisoning people with water. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.880 But yeah, let's start with that. Let's let's start with 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.600 what to do when you get a reverse nine or 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.440 one phone call tending you know, to drink from your tap. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.599 I mean, honestly, going out and getting bottled water was 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.919 the right move. Or also since people did have a 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:25.640 heads up that their tap water was safe for a 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:30.159 period of time, storing water in various containers is the 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:34.480 right move, because once your water is contaminated with chemicals, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.760 it's really hard to get it out. The main method 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:44.279 that well on an industrial scale, the thing that someone 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:49.359 can use the way they treat wastewater with beautile as late, 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.600 I didn't write down the name in my notes acrelate, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.599 Oh like acrylic. That makes sense because slate text paint. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.320 It's something called a fluidized bed reactor, which Frank I 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.760 did not know about until I started doing this specific 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.560 research for this specific chemical. People who are like more 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.520 at a high science level will know more about this. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:14.200 This is basically like you're using different bacteria to eat 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.039 and I don't know, fucking clean out this shit. This 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.479 is not what's going to be happening in your kitchen 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:22.479 sink anytime soon. This is not going to be part 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:26.719 of your Brita filter anytime soon, ironically, And this is 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:31.119 not how am I going to say this. Don't drink 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.440 this chemical water if you have any possibility, right, if 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.520 you can get other water, do that. And I believe 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.800 in our current society it is a better and safer 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.480 bet to get water from elsewhere if you were in 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.039 some situation, which I suspect most people are not. I 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.279 suspect most people could access supply lines. If you're in 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.279 some situation where the only water available to you has 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:56.480 these types of chemicals in it, the most likely guess 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.840 about a way to deal with it is activated car 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:05.520 and charcoal, and is actually the home filters that a 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.679 lot of people use. Is your Brita filter, is your burkey. 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.840 Although I'll talk some shit on burkey in a little bit, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.680 and and when we go over the more like nitty 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.320 greedy details about each filtration method, maybe we can we 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:20.720 can talk more about this. But basically, it is like 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.680 it is not tested to do this. No one has 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.440 ever been like, man, what if we get a bunch 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.320 of budle accrelate in our water, will our britta filter 0:07:30.400 --> 0:07:32.920 it out? No one is running tests on this because 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.280 it is not a thing that normally is in the 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:41.640 water historically, although clearly it is often in the water now. However, 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:46.920 the method of filtration of the various home level acts 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.640 various home level methods of filtration adsorption is what it's 0:07:51.680 --> 0:07:54.440 called with a D instead of a bee, is the 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.120 method that is perceived as most effective at reducing chemicals 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.600 in water. However, again we're talking about like maybe this 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:06.520 reduces some chemicals, maybe not. Oh you run this through 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:11.440 this and now you're fine. Yeah. Yeah, it's if there's 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:12.960 a lot of things that could get no water right 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.360 that we don't really have like any any like decent 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.720 research on how to get them out of a water. Yeah. So, 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:23.440 Margaret James, is there is there a say, say, you're 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:25.119 not living in a place where you get a text 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.800 letting you know that in Tuesday at three pm your 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:31.080 water will not be safe to drink, which is really 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:37.240 just uh, is there a home testing kit or a 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:42.320 water testing kit that that is accessible for for most individuals, 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:48.640 or what resources can people use to understand their water 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:51.240 at home because you want to I'm not really going 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:57.520 to trust the government on that. Yeah, And Margaret, do 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.520 you want to take that I only know about I 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:05.680 do not know about testing for beautiless accrelate. I think 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.120 that this is the kind of thing that they are 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:11.920 not people are not prepared for, like at a society level, 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.560 I don't. I believe I could be wrong. All of 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.120 the water testing that I have done has tended to 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.280 be around like I live on a well, right, and 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.640 so there's a lot of testing things that are available 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.360 to tell you the acidity of your water, the hardness 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.520 of your water, which is how how many dissolved minerals, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.120 whether or not your water contains things like lead and 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.960 arsnic heavy metals which we'll talk about in a little bit, 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.880 and also bacteria, right, like all of the stuff that 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:43.079 we normally prepare to filter out of water. There are 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.960 home tests available to you that you can use to determine. 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:49.800 I don't know, and I wish I had done more 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:51.840 research ahead of time. There's like some talk about like 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.240 possible smells and stuff for some of these, but I 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.400 don't feel confident. Yeah, I mean, I know there's the 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.280 eat wg's like website where you can put it in 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.920 your your your zip code and get more information on 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:08.200 if there's been contamination or anything like that, but like 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:11.920 that's you know, reported things, not necessarily on an individual 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.400 level for testing. Um. Yeah, I'd definitely do that. Anytime 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.640 I have moved anywhere, I'll type in my zip code 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.920 and then I go, ah, that sounds bad. Um, I 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.000 don't like that, but yeah, you can find out, you know, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.880 once you put in you can find out who who, 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.120 Like you put in your zip code on This is 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.320 just ewg dot org. You put in your zip code 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.400 and you can put who you pay for water, and 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:39.360 then it goes in and it tells you. You know, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.760 it's really it's really fun. Four In my mind, I 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:50.400 read four e w E Health Guidelines fourteen contaminants. Oh yeah, 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.520 I think a combination or two it's probably your best bet. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.600 Like unless you happen to do a laboratory like because 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.680 there's stuff coming like if there is like lead like 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.240 in between the water mains and or like you know, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.520 wherever the EDWD is getting its information and your tap, 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.760 then you're still risking like heavy metal contaminants, right, or 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.839 if you're on a well, you should test that it. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.520 I think it's every year, right, you're supposed to test 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:19.960 your well water probably should. You know, You'll be fine, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.160 you'll know. But yeah, I think it's important that, like you, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.120 I have definitely got super sick from water that looks 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:30.440 super clear, had no odor, looked fine, And I have 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.760 drunk from turbit as fuck stagnant water and not been sick. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.359 Like at your nose is not going to tell you, 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:52.840 and you do need some kind of help. Yeah, let's 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.440 talk about storing water first, and then we'll talk about 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.400 the more sort of established solutions so that the more 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.120 expected contaminants. Yeah, how would you go about Let's say 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.320 you're not in Philadelphia right now and you want to 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.320 prepare for something that could happen in your area, how 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.199 would you go about storing water? So the easiest ways 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.480 that you go get bottled water, if it is sealed, 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.600 and you keep it out of the sun, you keep 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.280 it out of the heat, even though you're it's supposedly 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.120 good for a year or two whatever. I feel like 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.000 really nervous on this, like this is what's safe, even 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:30.280 though it's not safe, right, but you can. Water itself 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.200 doesn't go bad. That is a thing that is worth understanding. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.600 Left to its own devices, water does not go bad. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.640 Water goes bad when there's like something in it that replicates, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.679 like bacteria or something like that, or when something leaks 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:45.640 into it. The main reason that you want to keep 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.440 your water out of the sun and out of the 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.360 heat is because if you're storing it in plastic, that 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:54.360 can eventually kind of leach into it as the plastic degrades, 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.640 and that I don't know, there's probably long term health effects. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.480 But like I would drink a water bottle that has 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.000 been in the vaccinat in my car for a year 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:10.680 before I would drink beautile acrelate water, And which is 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.280 I mean, it's I guess that's just plastic or plastic 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:18.320 pick your poison. But but yeah, so bottled water is 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.000 generally very safe and it is sealed and it has 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.040 no particular reason to go bad. You don't want to 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.320 store it next to kerosene or gasoline. Like if you 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.840 are the kind of person who keeps five gallon jug 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.200 of gasoline around, you want that a different place than 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.680 your water. Usually you want the gasoline outside your house 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:41.360 in a outbuilding. Everyone lives on acreage in the rural 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:45.439 areas the country, right, so many outbuildings around here, Yeah, 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:49.960 everyone's outbuilding. Just go out to my urban bond, Yeah exactly. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.679 So okay, well, okay, Then the other thing, if I'm 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.160 actually preparing go out and get some five gallons cherry cans. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:00.680 You're going to pay between twenty and fifty dollars and 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.640 you'll get a little bit of different quality depending on that. 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.680 You want something that is BPA free, you want something 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.200 that is opaque, and you want something that is like 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.880 not really bigger than four or five gallons because it's 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:16.920 clumsy and unwieldy. Yeah. You also don't want to stack 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.960 these things unless they specifically say this one is stackable 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:24.960 to such and such depth. Like most stackable containers are 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.840 also only stackable one or two high, well two or 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:33.280 three high, and I don't know, I mean, like frankly, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.600 on some level, that's what there is, okay, And if 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:37.840 you're going to fill your own water containers. There are 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.000 a couple of weird things about it. One, people argue 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.840 about how often you should rotate it. I rotate in 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.560 mind about once a year. You should theoretically rotate them 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.520 somewhere between six months and a year or something like that, 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.800 depending on how you store it. The other thing is 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:57.200 that if you are I actually think living off of well, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.520 you should probably rotate it more often. If you're on 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.720 a municip municipal water, don't run it through your britta 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.720 before you store it, because that britta is going to 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.960 pull out all the chlorine, all the bleach. And people 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:09.520 are like, whoa, I don't want to drink bleach. I 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:14.120 listen to that punk song Dead Dead milkman um whatever. 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.560 People don't want to drink bleach, right, you actually do 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:23.920 want to drink tiny amounts of bleach. You want medical solution. Yeah, 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.600 it keeps bacteria from growing. So if you filter out 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.680 all of that and then you put it the water 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.120 in the thing, if there's the tiniest little bacteria that 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.640 got through, it's like sweet, the defenses are down, you know. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:40.600 Um So, But yeah, honestly, story and water, like people 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.280 like they're gonna sell you lots of products, and like 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.560 prepper sites are full of people selling you shit. Um. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.920 But it's just a matter of like finding containers and 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.240 filling them with water and then rotating them every now 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.320 and then, and it's not actually that big of a 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.360 deal or super complicated. That's my take on it. UM 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.160 live off of I used to live entirely off grid 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:04.800 and then had to just drink water out of fifty 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:09.720 gallon drums, and I just I didn't even you know what, 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:11.760 I'm not going to say how bad my practices were 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:15.920 because I don't want anyone to emulate me. I was 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:17.720 gonna say, if you are, like, if you're storing on 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.840 a scale, I don't know why they'd say you live 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.400 on a compound in the desert. You know you can 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.880 get big water tanks, right, I just looking at moving 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.000 out to the desert a couple of years ago. I didn't, 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.160 but yeah, you can get big water tanks are pretty cheap. 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.680 You should some place at a dollar a gallon. Last 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.160 time I looked for like a fifteen hundred gallon tank. Yeah, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.080 I found them cheap, like gov sp plus ones as well. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.720 Pretty often. Oh really, Yeah, we'll talk like, yeah, yeah, 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.080 well I'll send you some send you some links, but 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:53.000 you might want to check it. At some places you 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.920 actually can't legally have those. It's getting better now with 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.320 that stuff, but you do want to check on that. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:00.880 I think if you or you could get like a 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.439 water buffalo, which is an industrial device for shipping water, Um, 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:08.480 you can probably pick up those pretty cheese. It's an animal. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:12.360 I don't want to. Don't dehumanize it calling it an 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.480 industrial machine. It's an animal, has feelings, Yeah, it does, 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.760 and you just keep that in your backyard. And then 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.160 what that does is attack anyone who comes after your water. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:25.640 So it's quite effective. Yeah, they are toughest nails. I've 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:31.520 had some runners with buffalo um animals. Okay, another thing, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.720 I guess that like, if you're like going hardcore on 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.359 this and storing thousands of galanto of water, maybe you 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.800 could invested something like a chlorine maker and that way, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.720 if you do like mess up with your storage, I 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:46.639 guess that that could maybe give you some leeway in 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.760 terms of purifying afterwards. Who's out fair to say, Margaret, Yeah, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.480 I mean that makes sense. Like chlorine maker is the 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.480 next step up from basically because like bleach itself does 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.000 go bad and if it's not a shelf stable for 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.080 I don't remember how long it lasts, Um, it's not 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.560 indefinitely shelf stable, and so people often especially in places 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.240 of that access to clean water and stuff. I will 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.159 say though, when we get into it. Chemical treatment is 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.280 really good for the main stuff that people normally worry about, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:17.760 such as protozoa, bacteria, and viruses. But once again, isn't 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:21.920 going to do shit for some stuff that goes bad? Yeah? 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:24.480 I think it might. There's one thing, maybe cryptosporidium. There's 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.400 something that chlorine specificitally doesn't work for. Oh, that's right. Actually, yeah, 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.600 it's actually not very good at protozoa. It's weirdly good 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:34.040 at viruses, and then whereas most of the filters are 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.119 not good at viruses and are good at bacterium protozoa. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.040 So we should probably explain these different things right right, ways, 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.520 you can treat your water. Okay, there's a bunch of 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:43.840 stuff that you can be in your water that you 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:45.840 don't wish was in the water. The one that is 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.600 like kind of off the top of my head, the 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.359 one that I think about the most because if I 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.000 had to deal with it and it sucked, are protozoa. 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.360 The two big ones are Giardia and Cryptospidium. And these 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.320 are tiny little animals in the water. If you can 0:18:58.320 --> 0:19:00.280 look at pictures of them, they're really cute, and they 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.720 make you shit a lot forever, sometimes until you die, 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:10.720 mostly immunocompromise folks, but everyone really unhappy. And if you're 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.640 in a survival situation already, diarrhea is like no laughing matter. 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.160 Your inability to keep in fluids and nutrients will dramatically 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:22.040 affect your your chance of survival. So that's protozoa. They 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.359 are the biggest of these things and therefore sort of 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.040 the easiest to actually don't know whether they're bigger in 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.360 bacteria or not. Then there's bacteria, which it can also 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.280 be in water and do bad stuff to you. And 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:32.360 then there's viruses, and viruses can be in the water 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.680 and do bad stuff to you. Largely in the United States, 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:41.720 and people don't worry about viruses and water. And that's 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.240 not because our heads are in the sand. It's because 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:47.800 we don't have as many viruses in our water. Then 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:49.480 there's chemicals you can have in your water. We don't 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.680 like them. There's dirt that can be in your water, 0:19:51.720 --> 0:19:55.360 which is just like not fun. There's heavy metals like 0:19:55.480 --> 0:20:01.080 lead and iron that can have deliterious effects on your health. 0:20:01.600 --> 0:20:05.119 Some people want to get water hardening minerals like calcium 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.200 and magnesium out of their water. But you actually don't 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.320 want to get rid of all of them. That's the catch. 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.639 That's what we're gonna have to talk about, because your 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.760 body wants some of those things. They mostly just like 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:19.240 make your house has all the all the plumbing breaks. 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.680 That's like the main stuff. There's also things like nitrates 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.440 that I don't understand well enough to talk about. How 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.600 we get rid of things. The most common way that 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.600 like backpackers and stuff who are a lot of the 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.480 people who diy this on a regular basis use is 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:40.240 something called filtration, or I'm going to call filtration first 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.760 use you screen your water as in, you get out 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.159 the large chunks usually people use like a bandana or 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.119 a sock or just some piece of cloth, right, and 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:49.719 you want to use that so you're not gumming up 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.720 your filter and then it goes into something where it's 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:57.879 forced through a membrane with micropores. These used to be ceramic, 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.399 but these days they're like a bunch of tiny little 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:06.040 tubes like the internet, and most of these are basically 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.720 la tubes have holes in them that are so small 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.879 that it stops protozoa and bacteria from going through it. 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:13.760 That is it's like main claim to fame. It is 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:17.000 very effective at it. Now that they're not ceramic, you 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.920 don't have to clean it like every fucking gallon. And 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:23.800 these are really good top brands that I am not 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.960 sponsored by our sawyer and life Straw. They're going to 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.280 use slightly different methods. People have opinions about them. I'm 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:34.320 not going to offer mine right now. And they're measured 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:39.040 in the size of the holes. Anything that's like one 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.399 micron is small enough to stop most protozoa. Most of 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.399 these ones are either point one or point two. These 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:52.000 don't block viruses, so they make ones that have even 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.560 smaller holes that can deal with viruses. And this also 0:21:55.560 --> 0:22:00.680 blocks microplastics, but you know whatever. Then there's chemical treatmentchemical treatment. 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:05.040 The two most common ones are bleach, chlorine or iodine. 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:09.400 And there's also like chemical tablets that you can buy 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.920 that are like worth keeping around. They weigh almost nothing. Whatever. Um, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.399 I am not going to give you the chart of 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:17.600 how much bleached to add your water, and don't just 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.480 go listen to me and add bleach to your water. 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:24.560 Fucking look it up. Uh, do not use color safe bleach. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.600 Do not use scented bleach. It's just disinfected bleach. But 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.080 it will probably either come in six percent or eight 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:36.640 point two five percent sodium hypochlorite chlorite. Um, and sounds 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:41.399 so grosss just that those commination Yeah, it's what they 0:22:41.440 --> 0:22:47.439 sent it with. Uh, the blood of I don't know, 0:22:47.560 --> 0:23:00.320 my god. Yeah, poisoned blood. That sounds so gross. I 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.720 used to wear a lavender all the time. I actually 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:04.960 I stopped for two reasons. First, I stopped when I 0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:06.879 was in college because like my girlfriend was like, you 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.959 smell like soap and was like really mad at me. Um, 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:12.800