1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: In a world where you end up standing in a 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: two hour line to buy mediocre and not climate friendly water. Sorry, 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: this is it could happen here. Uh, this is Sophie. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: I really wanted to do that for a really long time. 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Well now I want to watch it. Thank you that 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: those voices you hear are James Stout and Margaret Kildroy 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: and we're here. We're here to talk about the water 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: crisis that seems to be getting worse and uh, these 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: United States. Yeah, James, what's what's it? What's what's what's happening? Well, 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: and ever things are happening, right. I think should probably 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: emphasize at the start that water contaminants have been affecting 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: people outside of like the kind of colonial core for 13 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: a very long time long and and uh, legacy corporate media, 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, hasn't given it a 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: solitary fuck about it until it affects people inside the 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: colonial core. So what we're seeing right now is in 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: two places. East I believe it's pronounced Palestine, right, I 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: believe so too, Yeah, yeah, okay, East Palestine, Ohio. And 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia I believe it's pronounced phil A Delphia. Okay, 20 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: they did like someone's name, like Phil. It was named 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: for Phil a Delphia, the founder of the city Phil 22 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: from Delphia. Like the oracle. I see, he predicted that 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: one day there would be a spill from a PLC 24 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: chemical plant near the Delaware River, and famously he was right. 25 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: We've they built a city there anyway. Yeah, yeah, and 26 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: for years they've been so angry about not having a 27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: chemical plant, they've just climb lamp post and throwing batteries 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: at a boasting football teams. Yeah. And I feel really 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: good about starting with such heavy jokes about this thing. Yeah. Yeah, 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: it's three million people, I think anyway. Yeah, if you're 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: in philadel we do want to express solidarity with you, 32 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I guess as you wonder what the fuck to do 33 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: about your water supply, which is currently contaminated, as we understand, 34 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: by something called beautiful acrelate, which is a chemical that 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: is found in paint. And the reason that there is 36 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: a paint chemical in your drinking water if you live 37 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia is that a PLC manufacturing chemical plant called 38 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: I think it's trinso tr I n SEO had a leak, 39 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: and that leak when it's a storm, drain that storm 40 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: drain went into the Delaware River, and that river feeds 41 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: into the Samuel s Backs to water treatment plant, and 42 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: obviously that water treatment plant feeds into the tap that 43 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: you turn on to drink water when you live in 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: your house. And this has, as it always does when 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:57,559 Speaker 1: there are like these somewhat bungled announcements of chemical contamination 46 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: in drinking water. Caused people to shout to buy bottled water, 47 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: which is an understandable response if you think you're not 48 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: going to be able to drink water, which is caused 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: people to wait in long lines to access sometimes like 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: a limited supply of water. And what we wanted to 51 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: talk about today a little bit was not so much 52 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: like what to do if you're in Philadelphia right now, 53 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: but how we can better prepare to be ready for 54 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: water emergencies, water shortage, is water contamination, things like that, 55 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: which is why Margaret has joined us, because she is 56 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: the prepper anarchist queen and knows a lot about these things. 57 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, Margaret, should we I think you said you 58 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: wanted to break us down by like bad things it 59 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: could be in your water, and things you can do 60 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: to get those bad things away, right, Yeah, Although I 61 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: will say only a minority of this information directly relates 62 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: to people who are dealing with toxic chemical spills. So 63 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: if we're I have a lot of information about general 64 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: water safety, it's long term storage of water, things that 65 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: you don't want in your how to get those things 66 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: out of your water? And I know you have a 67 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: lot of experience with that stuff too. Um. But the 68 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: very specific thing that people first in Ohio and now 69 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania are dealing with, um of chemical stuff is 70 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: worse than other stuff and way harder to get out, 71 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: especially on a DIY level. UM. So I don't know 72 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: what what feels best like, should we do an overview 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: or should we try and first talk about the chemical 74 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: stuff and then talk about like the fun easy stuff 75 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: like not getting giardio when you're camping. Yeah, let's maybe 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: start out with the kind of this is the scary 77 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, you can't buy a LifeStraw for this, fear first, 78 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: fund later, Yeah, because people might be listening and they 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: might be afraid of they might be concerned that they 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: might be in one of these places. Right, Michigan, we 81 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: still haven't fucking fixed the water, Yeah, And so yeah, 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: let's start fucking flint Michigan. What a just disasters incompetence. Yeah, 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's it's extremely sad that the country 84 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: that is as rich as any country has ever managed 85 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: to be in human history is still poisoning people with water. 86 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, let's start with that. Let's let's start with 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: what to do when you get a reverse nine or 88 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: one phone call tending you know, to drink from your tap. 89 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, going out and getting bottled water was 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: the right move. Or also since people did have a 91 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: heads up that their tap water was safe for a 92 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: period of time, storing water in various containers is the 93 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: right move, because once your water is contaminated with chemicals, 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: it's really hard to get it out. The main method 95 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: that well on an industrial scale, the thing that someone 96 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: can use the way they treat wastewater with beautile as late, 97 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: I didn't write down the name in my notes acrelate, 98 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: Oh like acrylic. That makes sense because slate text paint. 99 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: It's something called a fluidized bed reactor, which Frank I 100 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: did not know about until I started doing this specific 101 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: research for this specific chemical. People who are like more 102 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: at a high science level will know more about this. 103 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: This is basically like you're using different bacteria to eat 104 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: and I don't know, fucking clean out this shit. This 105 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: is not what's going to be happening in your kitchen 106 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: sink anytime soon. This is not going to be part 107 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: of your Brita filter anytime soon, ironically, And this is 108 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: not how am I going to say this. Don't drink 109 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: this chemical water if you have any possibility, right, if 110 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: you can get other water, do that. And I believe 111 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: in our current society it is a better and safer 112 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: bet to get water from elsewhere if you were in 113 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: some situation, which I suspect most people are not. I 114 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: suspect most people could access supply lines. If you're in 115 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: some situation where the only water available to you has 116 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: these types of chemicals in it, the most likely guess 117 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: about a way to deal with it is activated car 118 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: and charcoal, and is actually the home filters that a 119 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: lot of people use. Is your Brita filter, is your burkey. 120 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: Although I'll talk some shit on burkey in a little bit, 121 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: and and when we go over the more like nitty 122 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: greedy details about each filtration method, maybe we can we 123 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: can talk more about this. But basically, it is like 124 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: it is not tested to do this. No one has 125 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: ever been like, man, what if we get a bunch 126 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: of budle accrelate in our water, will our britta filter 127 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: it out? No one is running tests on this because 128 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: it is not a thing that normally is in the 129 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: water historically, although clearly it is often in the water now. However, 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the method of filtration of the various home level acts 131 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: various home level methods of filtration adsorption is what it's 132 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: called with a D instead of a bee, is the 133 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: method that is perceived as most effective at reducing chemicals 134 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: in water. However, again we're talking about like maybe this 135 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: reduces some chemicals, maybe not. Oh you run this through 136 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: this and now you're fine. Yeah. Yeah, it's if there's 137 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things that could get no water right 138 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: that we don't really have like any any like decent 139 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: research on how to get them out of a water. Yeah. So, 140 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Margaret James, is there is there a say, say, you're 141 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 1: not living in a place where you get a text 142 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: letting you know that in Tuesday at three pm your 143 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: water will not be safe to drink, which is really 144 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: just uh, is there a home testing kit or a 145 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: water testing kit that that is accessible for for most individuals, 146 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: or what resources can people use to understand their water 147 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: at home because you want to I'm not really going 148 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: to trust the government on that. Yeah, And Margaret, do 149 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: you want to take that I only know about I 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: do not know about testing for beautiless accrelate. I think 151 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: that this is the kind of thing that they are 152 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: not people are not prepared for, like at a society level, 153 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't. I believe I could be wrong. All of 154 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: the water testing that I have done has tended to 155 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: be around like I live on a well, right, and 156 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of testing things that are available 157 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: to tell you the acidity of your water, the hardness 158 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: of your water, which is how how many dissolved minerals, 159 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: whether or not your water contains things like lead and 160 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: arsnic heavy metals which we'll talk about in a little bit, 161 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and also bacteria, right, like all of the stuff that 162 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: we normally prepare to filter out of water. There are 163 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: home tests available to you that you can use to determine. 164 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I wish I had done more 165 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: research ahead of time. There's like some talk about like 166 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: possible smells and stuff for some of these, but I 167 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: don't feel confident. Yeah, I mean, I know there's the 168 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: eat wg's like website where you can put it in 169 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: your your your zip code and get more information on 170 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: if there's been contamination or anything like that, but like 171 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: that's you know, reported things, not necessarily on an individual 172 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: level for testing. Um. Yeah, I'd definitely do that. Anytime 173 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: I have moved anywhere, I'll type in my zip code 174 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: and then I go, ah, that sounds bad. Um, I 175 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: don't like that, but yeah, you can find out, you know, 176 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: once you put in you can find out who who, 177 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Like you put in your zip code on This is 178 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: just ewg dot org. You put in your zip code 179 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: and you can put who you pay for water, and 180 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: then it goes in and it tells you. You know, 181 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: it's really it's really fun. Four In my mind, I 182 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: read four e w E Health Guidelines fourteen contaminants. Oh yeah, 183 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I think a combination or two it's probably your best bet. 184 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: Like unless you happen to do a laboratory like because 185 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: there's stuff coming like if there is like lead like 186 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: in between the water mains and or like you know, 187 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: wherever the EDWD is getting its information and your tap, 188 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: then you're still risking like heavy metal contaminants, right, or 189 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: if you're on a well, you should test that it. 190 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: I think it's every year, right, you're supposed to test 191 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: your well water probably should. You know, You'll be fine, 192 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: you'll know. But yeah, I think it's important that, like you, 193 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: I have definitely got super sick from water that looks 194 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: super clear, had no odor, looked fine, And I have 195 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: drunk from turbit as fuck stagnant water and not been sick. 196 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,359 Speaker 1: Like at your nose is not going to tell you, 197 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: and you do need some kind of help. Yeah, let's 198 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: talk about storing water first, and then we'll talk about 199 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: the more sort of established solutions so that the more 200 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: expected contaminants. Yeah, how would you go about Let's say 201 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: you're not in Philadelphia right now and you want to 202 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: prepare for something that could happen in your area, how 203 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: would you go about storing water? So the easiest ways 204 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: that you go get bottled water, if it is sealed, 205 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: and you keep it out of the sun, you keep 206 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: it out of the heat, even though you're it's supposedly 207 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: good for a year or two whatever. I feel like 208 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: really nervous on this, like this is what's safe, even 209 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: though it's not safe, right, but you can. Water itself 210 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: doesn't go bad. That is a thing that is worth understanding. 211 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: Left to its own devices, water does not go bad. 212 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: Water goes bad when there's like something in it that replicates, 213 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: like bacteria or something like that, or when something leaks 214 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: into it. The main reason that you want to keep 215 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: your water out of the sun and out of the 216 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: heat is because if you're storing it in plastic, that 217 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: can eventually kind of leach into it as the plastic degrades, 218 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: and that I don't know, there's probably long term health effects. 219 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: But like I would drink a water bottle that has 220 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: been in the vaccinat in my car for a year 221 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: before I would drink beautile acrelate water, And which is 222 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's I guess that's just plastic or plastic 223 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: pick your poison. But but yeah, so bottled water is 224 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: generally very safe and it is sealed and it has 225 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: no particular reason to go bad. You don't want to 226 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: store it next to kerosene or gasoline. Like if you 227 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: are the kind of person who keeps five gallon jug 228 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: of gasoline around, you want that a different place than 229 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: your water. Usually you want the gasoline outside your house 230 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: in a outbuilding. Everyone lives on acreage in the rural 231 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: areas the country, right, so many outbuildings around here, Yeah, 232 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: everyone's outbuilding. Just go out to my urban bond, Yeah exactly. 233 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: So okay, well, okay, Then the other thing, if I'm 234 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: actually preparing go out and get some five gallons cherry cans. 235 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: You're going to pay between twenty and fifty dollars and 236 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: you'll get a little bit of different quality depending on that. 237 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: You want something that is BPA free, you want something 238 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: that is opaque, and you want something that is like 239 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: not really bigger than four or five gallons because it's 240 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: clumsy and unwieldy. Yeah. You also don't want to stack 241 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: these things unless they specifically say this one is stackable 242 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: to such and such depth. Like most stackable containers are 243 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: also only stackable one or two high, well two or 244 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: three high, and I don't know, I mean, like frankly, 245 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: on some level, that's what there is, okay, And if 246 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: you're going to fill your own water containers. There are 247 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weird things about it. One, people argue 248 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: about how often you should rotate it. I rotate in 249 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: mind about once a year. You should theoretically rotate them 250 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: somewhere between six months and a year or something like that, 251 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: depending on how you store it. The other thing is 252 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: that if you are I actually think living off of well, 253 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: you should probably rotate it more often. If you're on 254 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: a municip municipal water, don't run it through your britta 255 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: before you store it, because that britta is going to 256 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: pull out all the chlorine, all the bleach. And people 257 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: are like, whoa, I don't want to drink bleach. I 258 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: listen to that punk song Dead Dead milkman um whatever. 259 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: People don't want to drink bleach, right, you actually do 260 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: want to drink tiny amounts of bleach. You want medical solution. Yeah, 261 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: it keeps bacteria from growing. So if you filter out 262 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: all of that and then you put it the water 263 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: in the thing, if there's the tiniest little bacteria that 264 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: got through, it's like sweet, the defenses are down, you know. 265 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: Um So, But yeah, honestly, story and water, like people 266 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: like they're gonna sell you lots of products, and like 267 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: prepper sites are full of people selling you shit. Um. 268 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: But it's just a matter of like finding containers and 269 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: filling them with water and then rotating them every now 270 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: and then, and it's not actually that big of a 271 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: deal or super complicated. That's my take on it. UM 272 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: live off of I used to live entirely off grid 273 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: and then had to just drink water out of fifty 274 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: gallon drums, and I just I didn't even you know what, 275 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say how bad my practices were 276 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: because I don't want anyone to emulate me. I was 277 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, if you are, like, if you're storing on 278 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: a scale, I don't know why they'd say you live 279 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: on a compound in the desert. You know you can 280 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: get big water tanks, right, I just looking at moving 281 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: out to the desert a couple of years ago. I didn't, 282 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, you can get big water tanks are pretty cheap. 283 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: You should some place at a dollar a gallon. Last 284 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: time I looked for like a fifteen hundred gallon tank. Yeah, 285 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I found them cheap, like gov sp plus ones as well. 286 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: Pretty often. Oh really, Yeah, we'll talk like, yeah, yeah, 287 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: well I'll send you some send you some links, but 288 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: you might want to check it. At some places you 289 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: actually can't legally have those. It's getting better now with 290 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: that stuff, but you do want to check on that. 291 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: I think if you or you could get like a 292 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: water buffalo, which is an industrial device for shipping water, Um, 293 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: you can probably pick up those pretty cheese. It's an animal. 294 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to. Don't dehumanize it calling it an 295 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: industrial machine. It's an animal, has feelings, Yeah, it does, 296 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: and you just keep that in your backyard. And then 297 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: what that does is attack anyone who comes after your water. 298 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: So it's quite effective. Yeah, they are toughest nails. I've 299 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: had some runners with buffalo um animals. Okay, another thing, 300 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I guess that like, if you're like going hardcore on 301 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: this and storing thousands of galanto of water, maybe you 302 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: could invested something like a chlorine maker and that way, 303 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: if you do like mess up with your storage, I 304 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: guess that that could maybe give you some leeway in 305 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: terms of purifying afterwards. Who's out fair to say, Margaret, Yeah, 306 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean that makes sense. Like chlorine maker is the 307 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: next step up from basically because like bleach itself does 308 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: go bad and if it's not a shelf stable for 309 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't remember how long it lasts, Um, it's not 310 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: indefinitely shelf stable, and so people often especially in places 311 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: of that access to clean water and stuff. I will 312 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: say though, when we get into it. Chemical treatment is 313 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: really good for the main stuff that people normally worry about, 314 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: such as protozoa, bacteria, and viruses. But once again, isn't 315 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: going to do shit for some stuff that goes bad? Yeah? 316 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: I think it might. There's one thing, maybe cryptosporidium. There's 317 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: something that chlorine specificitally doesn't work for. Oh, that's right. Actually, yeah, 318 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: it's actually not very good at protozoa. It's weirdly good 319 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: at viruses, and then whereas most of the filters are 320 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: not good at viruses and are good at bacterium protozoa. 321 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: So we should probably explain these different things right right, ways, 322 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: you can treat your water. Okay, there's a bunch of 323 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: stuff that you can be in your water that you 324 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: don't wish was in the water. The one that is 325 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: like kind of off the top of my head, the 326 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: one that I think about the most because if I 327 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: had to deal with it and it sucked, are protozoa. 328 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: The two big ones are Giardia and Cryptospidium. And these 329 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: are tiny little animals in the water. If you can 330 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: look at pictures of them, they're really cute, and they 331 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: make you shit a lot forever, sometimes until you die, 332 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: mostly immunocompromise folks, but everyone really unhappy. And if you're 333 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: in a survival situation already, diarrhea is like no laughing matter. 334 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: Your inability to keep in fluids and nutrients will dramatically 335 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: affect your your chance of survival. So that's protozoa. They 336 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: are the biggest of these things and therefore sort of 337 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the easiest to actually don't know whether they're bigger in 338 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: bacteria or not. Then there's bacteria, which it can also 339 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: be in water and do bad stuff to you. And 340 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: then there's viruses, and viruses can be in the water 341 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: and do bad stuff to you. Largely in the United States, 342 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: and people don't worry about viruses and water. And that's 343 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: not because our heads are in the sand. It's because 344 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: we don't have as many viruses in our water. Then 345 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: there's chemicals you can have in your water. We don't 346 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: like them. There's dirt that can be in your water, 347 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: which is just like not fun. There's heavy metals like 348 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: lead and iron that can have deliterious effects on your health. 349 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: Some people want to get water hardening minerals like calcium 350 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: and magnesium out of their water. But you actually don't 351 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: want to get rid of all of them. That's the catch. 352 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna have to talk about, because your 353 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: body wants some of those things. They mostly just like 354 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: make your house has all the all the plumbing breaks. 355 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: That's like the main stuff. There's also things like nitrates 356 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: that I don't understand well enough to talk about. How 357 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: we get rid of things. The most common way that 358 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: like backpackers and stuff who are a lot of the 359 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: people who diy this on a regular basis use is 360 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: something called filtration, or I'm going to call filtration first 361 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: use you screen your water as in, you get out 362 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: the large chunks usually people use like a bandana or 363 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: a sock or just some piece of cloth, right, and 364 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: you want to use that so you're not gumming up 365 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: your filter and then it goes into something where it's 366 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: forced through a membrane with micropores. These used to be ceramic, 367 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: but these days they're like a bunch of tiny little 368 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: tubes like the internet, and most of these are basically 369 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: la tubes have holes in them that are so small 370 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: that it stops protozoa and bacteria from going through it. 371 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: That is it's like main claim to fame. It is 372 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: very effective at it. Now that they're not ceramic, you 373 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: don't have to clean it like every fucking gallon. And 374 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: these are really good top brands that I am not 375 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: sponsored by our sawyer and life Straw. They're going to 376 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: use slightly different methods. People have opinions about them. I'm 377 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: not going to offer mine right now. And they're measured 378 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: in the size of the holes. Anything that's like one 379 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: micron is small enough to stop most protozoa. Most of 380 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: these ones are either point one or point two. These 381 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: don't block viruses, so they make ones that have even 382 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: smaller holes that can deal with viruses. And this also 383 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: blocks microplastics, but you know whatever. Then there's chemical treatmentchemical treatment. 384 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: The two most common ones are bleach, chlorine or iodine. 385 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: And there's also like chemical tablets that you can buy 386 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: that are like worth keeping around. They weigh almost nothing. Whatever. Um, 387 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: I am not going to give you the chart of 388 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: how much bleached to add your water, and don't just 389 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: go listen to me and add bleach to your water. 390 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: Fucking look it up. Uh, do not use color safe bleach. 391 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Do not use scented bleach. It's just disinfected bleach. But 392 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: it will probably either come in six percent or eight 393 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: point two five percent sodium hypochlorite chlorite. Um, and sounds 394 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: so grosss just that those commination Yeah, it's what they 395 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: sent it with. Uh, the blood of I don't know, 396 00:22:47,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, poisoned blood. That sounds so gross. I 397 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: used to wear a lavender all the time. I actually 398 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: I stopped for two reasons. First, I stopped when I 399 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: was in college because like my girlfriend was like, you 400 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: smell like soap and was like really mad at me. Um, 401 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: if you're listening whatever, I don't care. And then I 402 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: stopped get what in Hugert go on off? Looks good? 403 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: Look at me now? Yeah, thanks for turning me on 404 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: the lots of cool stuff. Um, that was much healthier 405 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: than I would have been. I'm proud of you. And 406 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: then uh, um, the other reason I stopped wearing lavenders. 407 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: That attracts ticks if you're out in the out in 408 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: the woods. Um anyway, okay, so that's chemical treatment. Chemical 409 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: treatment is really good for bacteria, viruses, It's not great 410 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: for parasites. It is a really good backup system, right. Um. Actually, 411 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: I'll go over the fucking king of all of them 412 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: for for bacteria, vias and parasites. You want to get 413 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: rid of it, you fucking boil your water. Um the 414 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: like classic way to do with it. As you boil 415 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: your water, and it only needs to get above sixty 416 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: degrees celsius, which is like one hundred and forty something 417 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: in regular human um. And I actually don't know the conversion. 418 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: I actually know when you're talking about qui fahrenheit. Okay, 419 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: fahrenheit is really good about humans because zero is cold 420 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: and hundred is hot. Yes, celsius is really good about water. 421 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: So we're we actually are talking about water right now. 422 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: So celsius is the proper scale because it goes from 423 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: zero is freezing to one hundred is boiling. Yeah, um, 424 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, it's uh, you know we should do 425 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: before before we talk about about water. Do you know 426 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: what will not make you shot yourself to death? Reagan coins? Yeah, 427 00:24:48,359 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: it probably is Ronald Reagan coins. Again. All right, we're back, 428 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Uncle ron to continue to pay 429 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: for my healthcare and interlude needs. So, Margaret, we were 430 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: we were talking about boiling fuck boiling water, that's it. Yeah, yeah, 431 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: so how long do we need to boil stuff for change? 432 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: Depending on what we got. It does but not really. 433 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: It's like all of the main and do do the 434 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: actual instructions. Overkill is better than regular get killed, right, um, 435 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: but most shit dies off at sixty degrees celsius, which 436 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 1: is below the boiling point of water even at high elevation. However, 437 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: basically the deal is at you want to boil water 438 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: for one minute at sea level three minutes above five 439 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: thousand feet um or five kilometer No wait, no, go on, 440 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: it's not a thousand feet okay um And yeah, So 441 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: so boiling water is actually the one of the main 442 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: things you can do. It doesn't get rid of everything. 443 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: It gets rid of those three things protozoa, bacteria viruses 444 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: very effectively. And that is most of the time what 445 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: most people are treating water for. A lot of the 446 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: other stuff is like long term health effects like heavy 447 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: metals and chemicals. Right. Yeah. Other methods that you can use. 448 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: The other like kind of gold standard, which isn't as 449 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: good as it seems like it should be, is distillation. 450 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: Distillation gets out lots of stuff. Distillation is basically you 451 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: evaporate the water and then let it run down into 452 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: another container. You're moonshining your own water, and and you 453 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: can do this DIY fairly well. And there's like solar 454 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: stills that are really cool. I've never actually built one, 455 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to. The downside is if you'd live 456 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: off of distilled water for a long time, it gets 457 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: out the magnesium and the calcium, It gets out the 458 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: minerals that you actually want in your water, so it 459 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: can have negative effects on your long term health if 460 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: you only drink distilled water. The main thing that distillation 461 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: does that I think no other method on this does 462 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: besides a reverse osmosis, which I'm not really going to 463 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: get into it. Desalinates water go ahead. That's a big deal, 464 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: right because like if we look at long term water insecurity, 465 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: like certainly where I live, we live in a place 466 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: where people like to play golf in the desert and 467 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: that has become an issue as far as water supplies go, 468 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: and so desalination is often proposed. It's like a way 469 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: to deal with our water crisis in California and the 470 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: fact that the Colorado River is getting lower and lower 471 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: and we rely on it. But like you said, lots 472 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: of these methods aren't going to pull the salt out 473 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: of water, right, didn't let you drink seawater, right, But 474 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: this one does. And so I mean, actually, I don't 475 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: really care about the health of golf course. I have 476 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: actually negative feelings about the health of golf courses. But theoretically, 477 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: maybe water in your lawn with the desalinated distilled water 478 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: and then drinking the water that actually has minerals in it. 479 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: But then again, like maybe the plants need that shit too, 480 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't fucking no, m so. And in distillation, it's 481 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: very good at getting out heavy metals also like iron 482 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: and lead, and it the reason it gets out the 483 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: bacteria and viruses. It is not because they can evaporate, 484 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: but because they die getting boiled because you boiled distill. Yeah, 485 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: and some pesticides are filtered out if their boiling point 486 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: is greater than the boiling point of water. Benzene and 487 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: too lean which I don't know what is. I don't 488 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: know too lean is. These are examples of things that 489 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: do not get distilled out. Then there's a couple more. 490 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: There's adsorption. Adsorption rules. This is the thing that I 491 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: always misspell and so that's why I emphasize the ad absorption, 492 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: and I don't really understand. Go ahead, how do we adsorb? 493 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Is that just like absorption with adverts? You know? It's like, yeah, 494 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: it's like I took three years of Ladin and all 495 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I remember is that ad means towards, an ab means 496 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: away from, and maybe a gorkoli is either farmer or farmhouse. Yeah, 497 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: I got poor poor re sum sum aramat aramasama saratta. 498 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: I remember that one. Now. Yeah, great, Yeah, there you go. 499 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 1: You've something today. Yeah. I wish that my school had 500 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: made me take Spanish instead of letting me take some 501 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: bullshit like Latin. H Yeah, exactly. So adsorption is good 502 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: for pesticides, heavy medicals, heavy metals, chemicals, viruses, and bad tastes. 503 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: It's the only one of these things that I'm aware 504 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: of that actually use can get rid of bad taste, 505 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: because this is pulling out all the weird stuff in 506 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: the water. And what it is is it uses activated carbon, 507 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: which is basically just some shit that's fucking burned and 508 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: then crunched up real small. It is a huge surface 509 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: area because it's like little powder, right um, and then 510 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: the water passes through it and then by some weird 511 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: science shit. The bad stuff tends to stick to the 512 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: carbon um. This is great. This is what your Brita filtered. 513 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: This is what your burkey does. This is what You're 514 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: pure filter does. It. It's not as good, I believe 515 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: for bacteria and stuff, and specifically the biggest problem with 516 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: these things is that bacteria can grow on them, and 517 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: so some people, I mean, that's why you replace it 518 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: every so often. It's not because it's like slow or clogged. 519 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: It's like literally unhealthy. And so sometimes what people do 520 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: is they treat for bacteria with UV or some other method, 521 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: bleach whatever, all the other shit that we talked about. 522 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about u V yet. After it goes 523 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: to the carbon filter. I'm really excited about like kind 524 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: of learning more about these because you can theoretically diy 525 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: carbon right, Yeah, yeah, you're definitely could. Right. I know 526 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: that it's not the same as this, but one of 527 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: the things you can do if you're in the back 528 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: country is like if you have water with a lot 529 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: of turbidity, which is stuff in the water, right, if 530 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: you can't see through the water, you know, if it's 531 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of cloudiness, you can use white ash 532 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: from a fire, and that will increase the rate of 533 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: which it deposits a sediment if you see what I mean. 534 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: So you how interesting because yeah, it sticks to it 535 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: and then slowly filters through the bottom of them. I 536 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: think the gold standard is a loom, which is something 537 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: using canning that increases it even quicker. But yeah, you 538 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: can use white ash from a fire if you're dealing 539 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: with I think that's I don't think that's activated coup 540 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: but I think that's a different mechanism. Yeah, no, I 541 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: don't know. UM. And then one of the methods that 542 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: is actually mostly done on an industrial scale that actually 543 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: is like I think the main way that people filter 544 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: water in this world is through sand, and I didn't 545 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: do enough research about um. There's both slow sand filters 546 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: and fast sand filters, and some of them like literally 547 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: depend on certain bacteria, good bacteria, like having a healthy 548 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: culture of them that like eat the bad stuff and things. 549 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: I used to know more about that than I do currently. 550 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: And then the last one I'm going to cover, Okay, 551 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: then those reverse cosmosos, which you might have a kitchen 552 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: thing that does and it also removes minerals. It's a 553 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: very effective method of filtering out lots of stuff. It also, 554 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, causes wastewater, and it's complicated in some ways. 555 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: And then there's UV disinfection, and this is like one 556 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: of the ones that gets touted as this like this 557 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: is going to save the developing world or whatever, right, 558 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: And uvy disinfection is cool and good. Basically it uses 559 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: UV light to kill off bacteria, parasites, and viruses. Again, 560 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: these three things that are the main things people are 561 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: usually going for. The biggest downside of UV disinfection, there's 562 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: two of them. One is that it requires low turbidity water. 563 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for introducing that term clear water. It has to 564 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: be fairly clear water because it's about light, right, that 565 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: makes sense, and because you have to be careful to 566 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: do it right. You just have to like actually get 567 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: all of it with all of it. Yeah, So this 568 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: is why I haven't, like, for a moment, I got 569 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: really excited about these things, and then in the end 570 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: I was like, I like my water filter that I 571 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: already have. Yeah, I think with UV filteration as well, 572 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: it's been big and the outdoor world kind of relatively recently. 573 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: You have to be conscious of storing it in a 574 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: opaque container afterwards because the bacteria can UV like reactivate. 575 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I f that's like any of it that 576 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't get is like fuck, yeah, it's my time. Yeah, 577 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: because it stops them reproducing. That's how it interest still 578 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: in there. But they don't so it doesn't really matter. 579 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: You drink them and then you pass them through your 580 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: system and it's fine. But if they reproduce, that's when 581 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: you get sick. So somehow they can UV reactivate. So 582 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: like if you have a you know, the classic like 583 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: like through hiking thing, it's to use a smart water bottle, 584 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: right because it's cheaping, it's dirty, and but if you 585 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: are UV filtering and then travling in your smart water 586 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: bottle and then putting that in the back of your 587 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: pack and hiking all day, you might get some difficulty. 588 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, I know it's not Yeah, I haven't really 589 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: messed with it much like like, yeah, I have my 590 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: comfortable setup and that's what I'd like to use. And 591 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: I will say that like something that people who don't 592 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: go camping much might not be aware of. There's almost 593 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: nowhere in the United States that you can be confidently 594 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: drink wild water without it without risking something like giardia. Um, 595 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: there are places where you can directly from a spring 596 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: is the most likely to be good. Um. People used 597 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: to say that you can you can drink high elevation 598 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: water if you're up in an alpine area because there's 599 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: like no calves or whatever, because like giardia, and I 600 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: believe also crypto, but I'm um the other poop transferred crypto, 601 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: the cryptosparodia, not the not the multi level marketing scam. Um. 602 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: They it's it's passed in the fecal oral tradition. What's 603 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: the word here? Uh uh, there's a word here forget yeah, 604 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: pathway yeah, and so um, because it's passed that way. 605 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: It's like basically the fact that there's livestock everywhere is 606 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: the reason that's not safe to drink the water. And 607 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: so people are like, oh, if you go up high enough, 608 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: you're safe. But there's still animals up there. And there's 609 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: also like more and more hikers up there. Almost anywhere 610 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: you're going to be hiking, someone else is hiked, and 611 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: someone else is hiked, and they have drank the water 612 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: without filtering it because they're not thinking properly, and then 613 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: they've shit in not in a hole, but just shit 614 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: somewhere on the ground, because they're also a bad person 615 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: in that way. Yeah. Um, And so they've like tested 616 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: a while ago in the high Sierras that there's garda everywhere, 617 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily mean it's going to make you sick, 618 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: but it can make you sick. So it's just like 619 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: worth knowing that. This is the reason that backpackers know 620 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: so much about water filtration, although again they don't know 621 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: as much about chemicals filtration, which is why I had 622 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: to go and learn more about that, less because I'm 623 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: a backpacker and more because they used to live off grid. 624 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're different, Like, like, there are definitely a 625 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of products out there that are very affordable that 626 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: work for like that specific specifically they giardia concern, right, 627 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: which is the one that most people have, And that's 628 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: probably if you're like if you're in a place where 629 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: you hear there's industrial water contamination and you go to 630 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: RII and you buy a sawyer make a tap filter, 631 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: for instance, it just clamps onto your tap. It probably 632 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: won't work for the stuff that you're concerned about, but 633 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: it will work if you're yeah off a while. Then 634 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: you have giardia or something. Yeah, and it also won't 635 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: work for like lead, which is one of the reasons 636 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: why the carbon filters are the more common ones at home, 637 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: because city water that is a higher you know, if 638 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: you live in some cities, you're gonna have lead in 639 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: your water, right, Yeah, because we used it in pipes 640 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: for decades. Yeah, but I don't know. Oh, let's talk 641 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: shit on Burkey's really quick. Yeah, let's do it. What's 642 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: up with Burkey? Why are they bad? So? I was like, 643 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: I personally the other day after this thing, because that's 644 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: my fun joy of being a prepper is going to 645 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Twitter and being like, here's what I know about that thing. 646 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: You know, whenever a thing happens while like safe on 647 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: my mountaintop and drinking out of my well, which whatever 648 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: has its own problems, I'll take those problems anyway, Okay. 649 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: So um, so I post about this, and then I 650 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: pointed out that like, overall, there's like the different filters 651 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: that you can have her home, and then the only 652 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: one that seems to sort of do it all is 653 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: the Burkey. It's this very expensive brand. You've probably seen 654 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: them in your hippie friend's house or you're the hippie, 655 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: and there's one in your house, there's one in my house. 656 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: And it's a big silver canister that looks like it 657 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: comes from the fifties or whatever, and and it's a filter, 658 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: and it's somehow filters more than everything else. And the 659 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: way that it does that is by lying or rather, 660 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what using the way. Yeah, the way 661 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: it does it is it says it can do these things, 662 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: and it is not certified to the what is it 663 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: a NSF slash ANCI standard that all of your other 664 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,479 Speaker 1: filters are testing themselves too. So everyone else is saying 665 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: we have passed this following certification, and Burkey is saying, oh, 666 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: we tested, and it does all the stuff. All the 667 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: other ones probably do kind of all the stuff too, 668 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: but the only things that they're actually certified to do 669 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: or what they say they do. And so Burkey basically 670 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: charges a mint in exchange for using their own testing 671 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: standards instead of the testing standards of other people independent testers. 672 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: Google Burkey wire Cutter and you'll find a good article 673 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: that where people conducted a bunch of tests. And it's 674 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: a shame because it would be nice to have this 675 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: sort of all in one filter because it's very annoying. 676 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: If you want to filter something out of your water, 677 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: you have to go, Okay, what's in my water that 678 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't want? And then you have to go find 679 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: the filter for that, and it's not going to be 680 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: the same as the other filter. Is not gonna be 681 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: same as the other filter. Like, oh, you live some 682 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: more leading your pipes. You can't buy a regular britt 683 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: You've got to buy the lead pipe Montreal special Breada, 684 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, and like, you know you want an undersinc 685 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: water filter? Well, do you want this one or this 686 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: one or this one? It would be nice if there 687 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: was a yeah, like buy once, cry once, Yeah, yeah, 688 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: go to Amazon two days later you're fine. Kind of situation. Yeah, 689 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: but there isn't one new I was going to go over, 690 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: like just in case people are curious more about the 691 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: back country stuff. I guess I have three different levels 692 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: of stuff that I use for back country. If I'm 693 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: just going out and I don't think I'm going to 694 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,439 Speaker 1: filter water, I just take a stainless steel single wall 695 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: water bottle and some iodine or another chemical purifier. I 696 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: didn't works really well, but you don't want to be 697 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: using it long term. It's not good for you long 698 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: term for your thyroid and then I'll filter it through 699 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: like a buff or a kaffir or something to get 700 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: the tability out and use that. If it's a trip 701 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: where I'm just in the back country in America, I 702 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: take a squeezy filteration catedine beefree is the one I 703 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: tend to use. And you want to have a dirty 704 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: bag and a clean bottle, right, so you're squeezing from 705 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the dirty water into the clean water. And then if 706 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm going somewhere for work where there are virus risks 707 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: and where it might be like what you'd call like 708 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: a non permissive environment, at place where you don't want 709 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: to hang around near a water source for a long 710 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: time because it's dangerous. I have this thing called an 711 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: MSR Guardian, which is not cheap, and you probably don't 712 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,880 Speaker 1: need it for what you're doing, but if you are 713 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,880 Speaker 1: concerned about viruses, it has a dirty bag and a 714 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: clean bag, and it's a hang filter, so you can 715 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,959 Speaker 1: fill up three liters of water, bugger off to somewhere safe, 716 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: hang it up, and let that filter from the dirty 717 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: bag into the clean bag, and then you're not standing 718 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: by the water filtering or pumping. I'm a few seconds 719 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: a pretty fettied. Situations have been fine. And I'll say 720 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: that the thing that I used off grid as they 721 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: used a sawyer, just a regular sawyer water filter. They're 722 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: like thirty bucks. And I attached it to a five 723 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: gallon bucket with some hoss and then I gravity fed 724 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: it and I just left it drip in from one 725 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: five gallon bucket to another. And that's for a stationary 726 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: place in the United States. That worked for me. Yeah, 727 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: I can see that working really well, Margaret. Do you 728 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: want to think where can people learn more about prepping? 729 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: Would there be a podcast they could listen to? You 730 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: mean one that just went weekly, Live Like the World 731 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: Is Dying. I am one of the hosts of Live 732 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: Like the World is Dying. The reason it went weekly 733 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: is now there's more hosts and you can listen to 734 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,919 Speaker 1: that wherever. You listen to podcasts every Friday, and soon 735 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: you'll be able to hear James on it. But I 736 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: don't know when you just have to listen to all 737 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, where can people see you gloating on 738 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: Twitter from your mountaintop? Magpie killed Joy until I finally 739 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: get sick? Of Twitter, which is increasingly likely every single day. 740 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: Hell so yeah, yeah, thank you very much, Margaret No, 741 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: thanks for having me informative. You are welcome. All right, 742 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: Ali everyone, Maybe it could Happen here as a production 743 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,439 Speaker 1: of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, 744 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: visit our website cool Zonemedia dot com, or check us 745 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: out on the iHeart radio app, apple Pot Podcasts, or 746 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts. You can find sources for 747 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: It Could Happen Here, updated monthly at coolzone meta dot 748 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: com slash sources. Thanks for listening.