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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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<v Speaker 1>the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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<v Speaker 1>years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with

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<v Speaker 1>the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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<v Speaker 1>moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Drives

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<v Speaker 1>on today's episode of Reality with the King, Honey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>with the King of summerhouse Baby, the King of Martha's Vineyard,

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<v Speaker 1>the King of shady confessionals Honey, and the King of memes. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>please give it up for the star, Honey, A summer

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<v Speaker 1>Martha's been your resting.

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<v Speaker 2>What an introduction. I so appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, President. How have you been?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Life is life in like I've I just

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<v Speaker 2>literally made a post the other day that said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I'm in a season of my life where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting everything I prayed for, and I just hope

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<v Speaker 2>it continues like this is this is a blessing, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just I just pray it pay it continues,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because everybody ain't eight ball all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just hope this maintain no listen, it will

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<v Speaker 2>maintain listen.

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<v Speaker 1>As the King of Reality Television press and Okay, my

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<v Speaker 1>advice to you is just enjoy the ride and remain humble. Okay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because You're only as good as your last episode. Honey,

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<v Speaker 1>and the folks who love You're gonna read.

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<v Speaker 2>You try, you know, but that's incredibly real. Though I

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<v Speaker 2>always said this, I appreciate these moments because we know

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<v Speaker 2>reality can be fleeting, so it's like, why not just

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the ride while it's here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Summer House, Martha's being here is such a good show.

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<v Speaker 1>You are so fantastic on the show, Preston, And I

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<v Speaker 1>want to firstveil this though, how did you get cast

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<v Speaker 1>on the show? Because you never saw yourself being on

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<v Speaker 1>a reality show, so I want to know how all

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<v Speaker 1>of that came about too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the short of it is that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>really it was by way of connection to my line

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<v Speaker 2>brother Silas and then Jasmine. They were on the vineyard already.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on the vineyard, but separate. We weren't staying

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<v Speaker 2>in the same house. And it just happens that some

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<v Speaker 2>of them who were already together, like Silas, Jasmine, Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Shanise, Jason, Dad took this picture and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it was sought out, and then I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>casting folks were like, well, if you know anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>who could actually be good for the show, let us know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll just reach out. And then of course Silas reached

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<v Speaker 2>out to me and then was like, Hey, what are

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<v Speaker 2>your thoughts. I'm like, hell, no, this doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing this because you have to understand my

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<v Speaker 2>career was like on this like upward trajectory, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't control a lot on reality TV. Like even with

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<v Speaker 2>me knowing I can control my responses to certain things,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just a lot there. And as a reality TV watcher,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that. So I was like, all right, this

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<v Speaker 2>may not make sense. But the more we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I had this list of pros and cons, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>the pro started to aweigh the cons of what I

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<v Speaker 2>could do and what I could contribute to reality TV,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with the network like Bravo. Right, something's so expansive,

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<v Speaker 2>something that I personally haven't really seen black gay men

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<v Speaker 2>being like on the center stage, if you will. Like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of times we were seen as the accessories,

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<v Speaker 2>the friend ofs and all love truly to those individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was just the time I think that we

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<v Speaker 2>had to shine a little bit brighter and that space

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<v Speaker 2>just opened up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh baby, you opened up the space. Honey, You're owning

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<v Speaker 1>the space. You're clearing the girls, your confessional addites are

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<v Speaker 1>so funny to me. And the thing that I love

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<v Speaker 1>about you, Preston, I can tell that you're just authentically you.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I love the most about you is you

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<v Speaker 1>are authentically black.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you know this. So a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of friends texted me in the pastor ble of

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<v Speaker 2>days and was like, I don't know if you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but one of your tweets from ten years ago is

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<v Speaker 2>in this black Twitter documentary and I was like, oh really,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were like yeah, so they sent it to

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<v Speaker 2>me and I was like, see, this is important though, right, like,

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<v Speaker 2>because the reality is I have been very active ono,

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<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of these new people use x, I

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<v Speaker 2>use Twitter, so like, at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you probably will pull up some tweets about

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<v Speaker 2>me being extremely black, because that's just who I always

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<v Speaker 2>have been. Frankly, no, but.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you bring to the show that I think

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<v Speaker 1>is so refreshing. Like you said, is what you bring

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<v Speaker 1>to the network that we haven't seen. And I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>that Ravo has chosen to really do a black version

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<v Speaker 1>of Summer House. And I think all of you, I

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<v Speaker 1>call y'all kids, because I'm your older big brother, right

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<v Speaker 1>so I think you kids do a fantastic job at

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<v Speaker 1>just being yourselves and representing the show, representing yourselves. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan of the show. What's interesting about it

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<v Speaker 1>is you talk about Silas, which is Jasmine's husband, being

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<v Speaker 1>your line brother, and he of course was like, oh, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do the show?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>What happened to you and Jasma Honey? Because when you

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<v Speaker 1>went to Jamaica with Bria Jordan, Jasmine wasn't part of

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<v Speaker 1>that equation. So what is going on? Because I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the show was built around Jasmine Honey and you left

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<v Speaker 1>her in the dust pan with the broom.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this question because it's always important to correct

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<v Speaker 2>the record. Jasmine at that point, in my honest opinion,

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<v Speaker 2>was not really my friend in that way. She is

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<v Speaker 2>my line brother's wife, and I don't think that's atypical

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<v Speaker 2>for like people who have ls's and LB's Like you

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<v Speaker 2>are your part of it, and I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>wedding to be very clear, but even Silas will admit

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<v Speaker 2>that him and I were not super tight like we

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<v Speaker 2>were a line brother. And as someone who's about to

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<v Speaker 2>get married next year, I can tell you that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who you pick for your weddings sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>are not your closest and closest it's people who are responsible,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's people who you have love for, who you

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<v Speaker 2>know are going to pay their bills, be on time,

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<v Speaker 2>and actually make sure things go smoothly and so, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just what That's the main advice I've gotten from

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my married friends, frankly and so. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, Sars and I are like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're cool, right, But Silas will even admit we were

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<v Speaker 2>not like this, And I think our relationship has like

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<v Speaker 2>had its ebbs and flows, certainly, But I say that

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<v Speaker 2>as the context to say Jasmine was really her like

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<v Speaker 2>their friends. So even when we were having this like

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<v Speaker 2>full conversation about should Jasmine on the trip, they will.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you I never said no ever, because it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't my place to. It's like, through their connection and relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>I built separate friendships with the people who you just named,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just felt like it made sense to go.

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<v Speaker 2>They had all those conversations around Oh, maybe it does

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<v Speaker 2>make sense. Maybe it doesn't make sense. First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I will always have issues with people who aren't introspective

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<v Speaker 2>enough when they're the common denominator in certain situations, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>is not randomly not speaking to you. They may not

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<v Speaker 2>be telling you the truth, they may not even be

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<v Speaker 2>sharing it out loud, but they share it with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not even talking about those women. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a couple of guys. What were they saying about

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<v Speaker 2>Jazmin that she was being different the Jazzminte they knew

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<v Speaker 2>before we started filming season one was different than the

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<v Speaker 2>Jazmine they recognized during filming and after the fact, and

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<v Speaker 2>even in my interactions they were different. It didn't make

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<v Speaker 2>me dislike her, but it did make me.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, I don't know and fear like she got a

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<v Speaker 1>big hit or ego because of the show, just moving

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<v Speaker 1>different lead.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, and I'm not even trying to be shady.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what I'm really like, Shady and truth can coexist, like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm really not trying to be shady. When I

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<v Speaker 2>say this, right, she will admit that she was buying

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram fun like she bought Instagram followers, like it's stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that that for me makes it. It makes me

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<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable because I don't understand why you're doing it. We

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<v Speaker 2>had this full conversation in the text group, all of

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<v Speaker 2>us said so like, no one is shocked. I think

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<v Speaker 2>people just don't want to say it. And I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>in trouble for being the person who decides to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, we know some of us felt uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't make her a villain, it didn't make her

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<v Speaker 2>a bad person. We were just like, this is different

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<v Speaker 2>than the person we're used to, and that built some

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<v Speaker 2>tension for some of the folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing I will say, because as a gay

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<v Speaker 1>black man myself, who have a lot of female friends

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<v Speaker 1>and we hang out whatever, one thing I will say,

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<v Speaker 1>not to speak for you, but I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>you may agree with this. When it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>gays and the girls. The girls shockingly, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>y'all think we're messy too. They are kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>not in this case, you're not the girls fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's showing stuff. This is why I always

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<v Speaker 2>need to clear the records and establish friendships and what

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<v Speaker 2>words mean and what they don't mean. Because everyone calls

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<v Speaker 2>everyone their friends, and I'm very clear about who my

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<v Speaker 2>friends are and who they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to the summer House, Martha's been

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<v Speaker 1>your cast. Who are your friends?

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<v Speaker 2>People I would consider my friends, meaning like I talk

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<v Speaker 2>to them often, I don't I feel like I can

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<v Speaker 2>trust them, et cetera. Would be Jordan's Summer, Nick, Emir, Noel, Shanise.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the people I talk to you, probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most consistently. I don't talk to Bria often. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>talk to oh and Alex too. Sorry, I don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Bria often. I don't talk to Jasmine often, even

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<v Speaker 2>though we you know, we're trying to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to figure it out. So yeah, so honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>Jasmin and Bria are probably there too. I talk to

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<v Speaker 2>the least as a fan of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I adore your friendship with Jasmine and Silas, and I

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<v Speaker 1>will love to see you and Jasmine get to a

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<v Speaker 1>good place. Do you think there's a world where you

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<v Speaker 1>two can get to a good place.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that, like I would absolutely love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want us to start from a place of

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<v Speaker 2>honesty and certain lack of expectations, right, I think there

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<v Speaker 2>are certain things expected of me that she and others

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<v Speaker 2>were not expect of anyone else. For example, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>dubbed right the voice of Reason, the more of the

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<v Speaker 2>neutral person overall. But I'm like, I getn't title myself that,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like, y'all are putting this burden on me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't escape me that I happen to be

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<v Speaker 2>the only queer person in this house either, and we

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<v Speaker 2>always feel this burden of always having to be there

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone else, and so I'm kind of exhausted with it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I'm like, as long as we can actually

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<v Speaker 2>create this environment where our friendships seem as equal as

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<v Speaker 2>they can and not being like well precedent stand up

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<v Speaker 2>for me, like you don't expect these people to stand

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<v Speaker 2>up for you either, So, like you know, it just

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense for me personally. I pray we can

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<v Speaker 2>get to a good spot. Like, honestly, this show really

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<v Speaker 2>is built around friendships, and I think it would be

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<v Speaker 2>terrible when God forbid, when the show ends down the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hate that this is what we couldn't this

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<v Speaker 2>is what broke us, because to be honest, if there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't for it, we would still be okay, right, we

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<v Speaker 2>would just go along with the get along. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I think, obviously this is new for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're figuring it all out. But I think we have

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<v Speaker 2>to like give each other permission to not censor ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>We're no, we're going to do these interviews, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's like give us permission to actually tell our own

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<v Speaker 2>truth and our own side of the story. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think everyone on our cast unfortunately allows each other

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<v Speaker 2>to be that free.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see the interview that Jasmine I did?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel when she made it seem as

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<v Speaker 1>if the people who develoved an ego on the show

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<v Speaker 1>were you and the rest of the people in the

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<v Speaker 1>Jamaica trip.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that more sounds like jealousy from the non invitation,

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<v Speaker 2>because the reality is Jasmon didn't really know me. Jasmine

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<v Speaker 2>and I hung out maybe six times before the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is why I'm like, what the hell are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about? Like honestly, like we didn't really know

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<v Speaker 2>each other, so like it just fascinates me because again,

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<v Speaker 2>I am very clear about who my people are and

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<v Speaker 2>who they're not, and I'm not about to create this

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<v Speaker 2>like entire dynamic. Like everybody in DC when they see

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<v Speaker 2>me on the street, everyone talks about how I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>same exact person who they've known for the past fourteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's like, if you think I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>hold your opinion higher, we haven't even spent two hands together.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't. I can't take that opinion seriously. I'm sorry, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I just I can't. You are, but you are not

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<v Speaker 2>about the whole higher opinion than my best friend of

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years, Like, I I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that when it comes to this show,

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<v Speaker 1>was it difficult for you to walk into a situation

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there is cameras twenty four to seven? And

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<v Speaker 1>did that make some of you and the cast more

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<v Speaker 1>conscious of your behavior because you knew that by any

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<v Speaker 1>given moment, there's a camera where backs up the bathrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I think yes and no. So like I think the

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<v Speaker 2>first summer when we filmed, I think it was much

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<v Speaker 2>more like old crap. Like I'm literally walking down the

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<v Speaker 2>steps and I'm accidentally treating this like as avid elementary,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm just looking directly in the camera. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, y'all. I'm sorry. But I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I started to learn that there was like Mike's

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<v Speaker 2>and headboards and different things, I'm like, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. But I think honestly, the second summer, which

0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.400
<v Speaker 2>is I think while we were so activated so quickly

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<v Speaker 2>on the first day, is I think we just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>care anymore. I mean, it was just like whatever, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get what they're gonna get from us. Literal,

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<v Speaker 2>my whole ass cheeks is out this summer. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think you'll just, you know, we let it go a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more. But I've also realized the truth is

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<v Speaker 2>you can't run away from yourself no matter how much

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<v Speaker 2>you try, and you know the real you is going

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<v Speaker 2>to eventually come out. But that's just real. Right, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we're filming for a couple of weeks, You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>the good, bad, and ugly, and I think people wish

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't show the ugly, but we all have it

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<v Speaker 2>in us, right, It's just different things that's gonna bring

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<v Speaker 2>it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And one thing we're walking the season, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>this dialogue and we're seeing it for the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes about your friend Nick being too handsy. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get your thoughts on that, because again I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in the house obviously, and the house is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>for seven, but based on the show, and again this

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<v Speaker 1>is my opinion, I didn't think Nick came across that

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<v Speaker 1>way unless there's the things that happened that I'm not seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I could tell that at the moment he was

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<v Speaker 1>informed of this. What I did appreciate that he addressed

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<v Speaker 1>it hit on. He's like, let's talk about it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he handed that delicately. But man, we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation happen again, so I want to get your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on it, Like, is Nick a handsy person? Nick?

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<v Speaker 2>So this is why I always said, hansy does not

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<v Speaker 2>mean an appropriate person, right know, only people frankly who

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<v Speaker 2>can judge that is the person who like feels your

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<v Speaker 2>fingers on them. But that's the point I was originally

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say to him. Anyway, It's like, yes, some

0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.960
<v Speaker 2>people at that point, it was Jordan and Summer who

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<v Speaker 2>were having that conversation, which to me felt very different

0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.680
<v Speaker 2>because they do have a close relationship and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I was like, Okay, I cannot tell Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>but we kind of are already that. Honestly, that episode

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of funny because when Nick was like, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>just do what I do, do nothing, I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like this is God because I probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have kept this in, but stop the wills funny. I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped the will Ye like, well, yeah, I'm like, NAHV

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<v Speaker 2>that just said it. I can't just let this go.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I mentioned it and he was I

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<v Speaker 2>think kind of floored at first, but then did respond

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<v Speaker 2>I think to your point, like well, and how he

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<v Speaker 2>went about it. I do think Nick can be handsy.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't think that necessarily means inappropriate. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's because Nick is very affectionate. So even with me,

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<v Speaker 2>Nick is like always hugging on me, grabbing on me,

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<v Speaker 2>like that is just who Nick is. But some people aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people don't like that right, And so for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, it's not really about if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel your handsy. If someone is making a common aboud

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<v Speaker 2>it and maybe making them a little uncomfortable, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just is what it is. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>coming up again, which you'll see. I think it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>actually how it came up again. I feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>was done to be messy by the person who brought

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<v Speaker 2>it up. Ultimately, other than that, it was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like girl talk, like they were just chilling and talking.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what led to it was not as sincere

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<v Speaker 2>as me bringing it to Nick's attention. And yeah, y'allmost

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<v Speaker 2>see all that, but I didn't like how it came

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<v Speaker 2>off the second time.

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<v Speaker 1>So speaking of the second time Will and Mariah second

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<v Speaker 1>time around, Okay, well we saw first season with Phil

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<v Speaker 1>who by the way, you know how they call some

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<v Speaker 1>reality stars who get a second season the second season

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<v Speaker 1>blow up? Your band's feel had a second season blow up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was always like an attractive person, That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like, be attractive, but a little less loud, but

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<v Speaker 2>show some levels.

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<v Speaker 1>What I did love though this season because like like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, first season, obviously he appeared to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little just like rude you know again with his behavior

0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.119
<v Speaker 1>he was sent home and then this season before he

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<v Speaker 1>got to the house, he had to kiss the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, he had to kiss the ring the call

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<v Speaker 1>mister Preston to apologize like an Baker did on her

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<v Speaker 1>second album track number one and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so my question to you is this, though, when

0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you knew it was him on the phone, did you

0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.439
<v Speaker 1>roll the eyes in the back of your head, like,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are not about to have this man come back

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<v Speaker 1>and create some drama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because honestly, it was two things. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>this could be a genuine apology. No, actually, I think

0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.000
<v Speaker 2>it's two things together. It was a genuine apology in

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<v Speaker 2>some instance, Like the apology was a lot better than

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<v Speaker 2>what I ever thought he could deliver, if I'm being real.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, like that's a that's a start.

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<v Speaker 2>And I knew he was trying to make his way back,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I am not naive, like I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly what this is. But as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we're able to have a conversation, like, honestly, at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>for me, what else do I want? Like, so long

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<v Speaker 2>as you make a commitment to not be that shitty

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pun intended, we're good. Like we're good. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the other guys didn't feel that way. But the thing is,

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.080
<v Speaker 2>fil I an't going to be friends, like you know,

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it's just like, okay, we can co exist, that's kind

0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 2>of it. But I really believe in giving grace like

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 2>that is just how I grew up. That's who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, so long that you didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>anything to really harm me, we can figure it out.

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Like even if that means just you us drinking together.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I don't know if I think the apology

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<v Speaker 2>was that genuine per se, but he didn't have to

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 2>give it, and though I do believe he gave it,

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<v Speaker 2>so he could, you know, be seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's back season three, because obviously, honey, if there's

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the season three you're back, just saying it, would you

0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.240
<v Speaker 1>like him to be back?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay if he doesn't come back, Like, I think,

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:52.680
<v Speaker 2>there are so many single, attractive black men who are

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<v Speaker 2>not as toxic, who could do a great job. But

0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I think we all got a little

0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 2>bit of toxicity in this US. I just think his

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<v Speaker 2>came across a little bit quicker. What you know that's

0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>toxic though, Preston, look, well you know that makes your

0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.320
<v Speaker 2>reality TV. Not everything could be seen. So there were

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<v Speaker 2>there were parts where I was like, I don't like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it reminds me too much of like these straight

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.320
<v Speaker 2>men when I was growing up who made sure I

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<v Speaker 2>was uncomfortable, and I'm like, and I don't like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, which was part of the reason why I even

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to have the conversation, which frankly is why I

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<v Speaker 2>was so frustrated with the conversation he had with Bria

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<v Speaker 2>after the fact, because I actually told the entire house

0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 2>how I felt as a gay man, and I'm just like,

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 2>most of y'all won't understand this, and that's no shade,

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.240
<v Speaker 2>like you're not gay. So I get that something's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of flower your head certain words you don't understand the

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<v Speaker 2>meaning of. And I was like, but this makes me uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>So after the fact, when I heard the conversation, like,

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>can't no grown ass man be that upset? I know, right,

0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.639
<v Speaker 2>it was like, Okay, now I don't trust you, Like

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<v Speaker 2>there were so many things in that moment that made

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 2>me really frustrated. Then I'm like, all right, I'm gonna

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>have to wash my hands clean of this and start

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:07.680
<v Speaker 2>looking at people differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I get it, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to Mariah black Twitter is funny because when Maria

0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 3>was sitting home child, I was floored with black Twitter saying, no,

0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 3>this is effed up.

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<v Speaker 1>We want her back. Team Mariah like the she has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of supporters of people, And it made because

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<v Speaker 1>again when I watch shows Preston, I go on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm always looking like what other people saying because

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I like to take the brain of salt at times.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was funny because I said, Oh,

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.480
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, we don't what what she's about it, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to Mariah, what are your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>her and should she get a second chance season three?

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<v Speaker 2>This is easy for me and the answer is yes. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, Marian and I do have a really

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 2>good relationship and actually we're kind of from around the

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:09.840
<v Speaker 2>same neative Nekata would so like, I know people like

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 2>her very well, and it is the diamond and the rough,

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's also the underdog, and I really really love

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 2>an underdog. I think Mariah also, to be honest, is

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 2>her story to tell. But she was just going through

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.240
<v Speaker 2>a lot when we were like initially during the first summer,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I do think it was her time to leave,

0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.880
<v Speaker 2>maybe not for what happened like but the situation itself,

0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.919
<v Speaker 2>but she she just needed to go and be with herself,

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 2>incent to herself, and so I don't think she really

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:41.440
<v Speaker 2>got a chance to show just how fucking dope she is,

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.119
<v Speaker 2>and that is that is really what I would love

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.880
<v Speaker 2>to see. Like she's funny, she can dress nice body,

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 2>like good spirit, like, I think Mariah is truly a

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 2>great person, and I really do want her to have

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 2>that chat. So I do too.

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I love Mariah. I was like, no, bring her back.

0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:58.119
<v Speaker 1>I was glad to hear her come back to I

0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.400
<v Speaker 1>think Mariah is has potential to be a great reality star,

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to see her get another chance to

0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>really play with you. With you guys, would you like

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 1>to have another queer person on the show with you?

0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.120
<v Speaker 2>I would, I would, But you know what's funny, it's

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 2>not even a bud. I one hundred percent would like one.

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 2>But I know people and there will try to be

0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:23.720
<v Speaker 2>people who try to, of course stirve the mess with

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.919
<v Speaker 2>two gay people like that is just like again, I

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>am not naive, so like that's not very much. Already

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>know some of the things that could potentially happen. But

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the truth is I get along mostly with everybody all

0:24:36.480 --> 0:24:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the time. Like that's not like until you like until

0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.400
<v Speaker 2>you are funny and you want me to be hilarious.

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm good, but I am just an easy going person.

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.639
<v Speaker 2>But I would love, love love another queer person, queer woman,

0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 2>queer man, like just someone who I don't have to

0:24:53.280 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 2>explain everything with someone I guess who can share the

0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 2>burden of being the accountability partner, since apparently that gets

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.360
<v Speaker 2>put on us. That is what I would love.

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>No, I would love that too. I think that'll be

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Listen to me. I've given Hey, guys, I'm giving you

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 1>all some advice per season for your time. I want

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Amir's girlfriend.

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I knew it.

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>People are saying on Twitter that Amir's girlfriend clearly likes

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:21.919
<v Speaker 1>black men, but they don't know if she knows how

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to foreign friendships with black women. A lot of things

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 1>we've been seeing with her that appears to be a

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:32.879
<v Speaker 1>little interesting about her behavior and comments. What are your

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on her?

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I really can't speak because I really don't know her well.

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think that may have been my third time

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:44.160
<v Speaker 2>meeting her, so I can't really speak to her politics

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that, just who she is. I can

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>be honest because my thing is I study culture, gender

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and sexuality, like race, gender sexuality. So even watching it back,

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 2>I pringised on quite a few moments. There were just

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 2>some moments that I hated to watch, honestly, and Candice

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and I did an Instagram live about this because you know,

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of viewers kept commenting, and it was clear

0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 2>that they had some feelings. And I know folks get

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 2>really frustrated with people using the word microaggressions, but if

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>there's the white person touching the black person's hair, if

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:24.600
<v Speaker 2>there are particular comments like that, I imagine she's not

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 2>doing well left for seeing in some of the comments.

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>There's been a lot of comments. I've stumbled on them myself,

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 2>but I really do and I'm not even just saying this,

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 2>but I really do hope there's a pause for introspection,

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 2>like everybody ain't lying on you, and there has to

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 2>be like something where you're like, man, I'm messed up,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Like there's something I did that triggered people. There's things

0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know I was doing, probably, and I

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 2>just I want people to get there.

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>Have you heard from a mirror about how he's been feeling.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, like I think he just doesn't understand

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 2>really and I'm trying to like talk to them about why,

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>like what is going on, you know, because the mirror

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>has admitted from last season especially, he's admitted that he

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really have like a lot of black friends in Texas,

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. So there are things naturally, I figure he

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't understand, like my life is black folks all the time, right, Like, so, like,

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 2>I give that there are some things naturally we grew

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 2>up differently. I grew up in all black environments, you know,

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. But there's so I can spot it instantly,

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>things that I know he may kind of struggles spotting

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.679
<v Speaker 2>you through. So I'm not trying to like hold his

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.919
<v Speaker 2>hand through it, but I have to like respect that

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>he's like, I actually don't know what's happening, and I'm like,

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 2>y'all messed up. And here's why, like friend and a friend,

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell you, like, this is what's going on,

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 2>and this is you. You should address it and not

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>be so defensive, and here's how you take steps to

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>address it.

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm glad of you said that, because you know,

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 1>that's what I love about this show too, because I

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like one thing you guys do well is you

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 1>hold each other accountable and try to explain the situation,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>and you guys addressed things hit on. So I'm hopeing

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that Ameyor and his girlfriend at least understand is based

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>on one thing. Listen, the beauty of television is you

0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>get to watch yourself and be like, oh, I was

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, like you said, some introspection that

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>could happen, And my hope is that they both feel

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that way too. What I loved about this season two

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>was your choice into really diving more to your personal life.

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>My condolen says to you about your father, Do you

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>have any regrets not going to the funeral?

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 2>No? No, and in fact, because honestly, the relationship with

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>my father's son is even worse. I know it was

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>the right decision. Like it's not good and it's not

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>even better based on the show you think the episode. Oh,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I just think they all need some couch time, and

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they're going to invest in it. So

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's best for me to just distance myself

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>from whatever is going on account.

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry to hear that.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>No, I appreciate that.

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>What I love though I love your fiance.

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Me too.

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>These seems so sweet and just like super supportive of you.

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about that because one thing, and I'm

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>sure you've seen a lot of this, one thing we

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 1>don't see a lot of on television is black queer relationship.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>When it comes to two black men, you know a

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of people on social media they feel like when

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>a black man enters the space of Hollywood, when a

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 1>gay black man, excuse me, in terms the space of Hollywood,

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>they're never with a black man. So the representation that

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you showed with just bringing him on, I thought was great,

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>not just for us to see it, but like it

0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was just great for representation. Were you conscious of that

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>when you decided to show that part of your life.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I was. But also I will never and have

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 2>never dated anyone but black men, So like I'm just like,

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Like I just it's too much to explain.

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I am not doing it. So but so

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that part was like, oh, I mean clearly. What's funny

0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>was some people tweeted me people are shady. They were

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 2>like who this is? I was so nervous I thought

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>pressing it was gonna be with a white man. I

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, what I said, do you even know anything

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>about me? And they were like no. But but to

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>your point, they were like, when we do see black

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 2>gayment on TV, you know they do have a non

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.239
<v Speaker 2>black partner usually, So I was very conscious of that.

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>But to be honest, Donald truly is the sweetest thing

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>like when Nick said Donald is the happiest person he knows,

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>like it is true, like he is always happy, like

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 2>and so you know, even when even the moments where

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>we were like, okay, is this is this worth a debate?

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Probably not. Let's just let's order some food, but that

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 2>is really just us, like we you know, we don't

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 2>really I know, people probably think it's weird. We just

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>don't really argue like that because it's like what why.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 2>We also have like a twenty four hour rule where

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like I am if I'm actually like, let's take

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours and if I'm no longer angry, then

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 2>it was probably me and not you. Right, There's like

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>these different moments where it's like okay, you know, because

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you're going into a relationship, it's two different people joining together.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>You're bringing all your stuff in with you, you know,

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>so you're being triggered every day by small things, especially

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 2>when you move together. There's so many things that could happen.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 2>But all that to say, I'm just grateful to like

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>for people to see our relationship, right, Like you don't

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 2>obviously get to see like the ins and outs, but

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>just the visibility of two black gay men kissing on TV.

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>It means a lot.

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>No, it does, it does, And I love that you're

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>showing that. And like I said, he just seems so

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>sweet and me and you are alike in the sense

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of like big personalities when we walking to him. Really

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we own it. We just have that quality and the

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 1>partner that works best for people like you and I

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>are reserved. They're like, this is your thing. They're the

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>voice of reason in our lives.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'll be like, tell you

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:22.479
<v Speaker 2>what he was. Okay, relax first, but you know it's funny.

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Donald is an introvert. But when I tell you, no

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 2>one turns up like Donald, though, he will turn up

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>and they will be knocked out right in the couch

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 2>like you saw like that. That is really him threw

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it through. But that is why I love him. He

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>is very supportive, Like he made it clear like we

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 2>were dating a couple of years before the show even

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 2>came up for either one for me especially, but eventually

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 2>for us, and so this was not part of our journey.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 2>And so honestly, he could have been like, I'm good

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>if this is the direction you want to take and

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 2>take it, but I don't want to be public in

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>this way, but he didn't. He was just like, if

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>this is the journey you want to go on, let's

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>go it together and we'll figure it out together. And

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>so that's what I really appreciate. So when he came on,

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 2>he made clear like I'm just here to have fun,

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Like keep me out of the mess, keep me out

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>of the drama. I'm here to have fun.

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I love that is all of your cast members invited

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to your wedding.

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually right now they will be, but things can shift.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 2>And I but you know, I say that because I really,

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>no matter how much shade we throw, no matter how

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>much like people, I mean only two people may have

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 2>some feelings about me right now, to be honest, like

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm close with the vast majority of my castmates, but

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 2>even then for me, it's stuff like that is so temporary,

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Like the anger is so temporary that it's like I

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 2>would hate to make this lifelong decision of memorying of

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 2>us remembering each other at my wedding, at our wedding,

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>then like rest on this like temporary moment, Like it

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't feel healthy and it doesn't feel mature. So yes,

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>right now, everyone is about it.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, last question, you take your first reunion? Yes, Now, look, honey,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>as a reality TV fan like you are to have

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a reunion, I'm pretty sure you was like okay, because

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you understand the assignment. Now keep it real with your boy.

0:34:25.480 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You're a big Did you go in with some rehearse reads?

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I did not. I can answer that immediately. Listen, I'm

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>a black day man. I don't need to rehearse, no reeds.

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>So it's coming. It's coming. And in fact, what I

0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 2>can't say to you, Carlos is you know that I

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 2>haven't rehearsed because if someone say something, I'm like what,

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 2>it's very immediate, you know, you know?

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, before I found out the reunion it is going

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to be at the clubhouse. Yeah, next say, Andy should

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>be you and Jasmine because to me, y'all the force

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>market flings.

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 2>On the show.

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:10.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes sense.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, besides herself?

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who gave a great performance at the reunion? Like

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>who who? Who? Are you lying?

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, bitch? Yeah? Honestly, even though I think she was

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:32.240
<v Speaker 2>a little shady, I think Jasmine. Yeah, I think Jasmin.

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, if there's something I have to respect about someone,

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>who is going to say the thing like, even if

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<v Speaker 2>it feels shady or a little nasty, just as long

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<v Speaker 2>as you can take it back right like I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I can't lie. At one point I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I was like, you know what, respect respect?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually so but honestly, so, I think who did the

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<v Speaker 2>best to be honest. Just what I'm remembering is I

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<v Speaker 2>would say me, Jasmine, Noel, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Jean, what she was supposed to do? You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I could be good or bad, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she did not hold back. That's what I'll say. She

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<v Speaker 2>did not hope that those are the ones and I

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<v Speaker 2>think and I think I appreciate it. I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation between Jordan and Jasmine, Yeah, I don't gain.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how everything's gonna look and people gonna feel,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it was the start of a healthy conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any regrets like doing reality television? Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're famous?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. No, Yeah, I mean maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like a C plus lister, but like I know you

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<v Speaker 2>want down the street now, Preston, Oh my god, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>And it is even the cast makes a joke about

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<v Speaker 2>this too, because I guess because I have the most

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<v Speaker 2>consistent aesthetic, So like you'll always see me with the hat,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some shades. People like the joke is always they'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably notice Preston first, and then they'll notice us if

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<v Speaker 2>we're around each other and that and that. So like

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<v Speaker 2>when we were all just in New York, when I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you we got stopped so much, like it was

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<v Speaker 2>honestly the sweetest thing. But I don't think I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>experienced as much love as I got until I went

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<v Speaker 2>to Philly. It was wild. I'm not like, shout out

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<v Speaker 2>to Philly for real, because this is around the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was mostly like DC or Philly Black Pride. Pam relays.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you, there was one moment it was

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<v Speaker 2>four black women in the car and they were stopped

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<v Speaker 2>at a red light. I was crossing the street to

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<v Speaker 2>walk back to my hotel. Someone rolled down in one

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<v Speaker 2>It was like that and literally I ran over to

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<v Speaker 2>their car and they were just taking pictures like with

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<v Speaker 2>me outside the car. It was the sweetest moment. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's It's been so much love and I've been so grateful.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing, right, I didn't have to get

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<v Speaker 2>picked for TV. There's something that truly saw me. There's

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<v Speaker 2>something that Bravo on me, and you know, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I can be very I think if you just looked

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<v Speaker 2>at my resume, there's no way to do would make

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<v Speaker 2>sense for me. And so I'm just grateful they saw

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<v Speaker 2>beyond the accolades right and saw if there's someone who

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<v Speaker 2>could be dynamic and funny and yes, occasionally shady, but

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<v Speaker 2>like someone who just felt relatable and that just meant

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to me.

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