1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey rain Drops. Yes. So, as you know, my podcast 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is on tour and my next 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: stop is live in New York City with the one 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: the Only Queen of New Jersey, Teresa Judais. Yes, on Tuesday, 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: June eighteenth at the City Winery, Teresa Judais and I 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: will have a live conversation in front of a live audience. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: Make sure you get your tickets now. Log onto my 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: website Kingdom raint dot com. That's Kingdom r E I 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: G N e n T dot com. Or if you're 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: on social media and follow me, click on the link 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: of my bio to purchase your tickets. Once again, the 12 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: website is Kingdom rainnt dot com. Hit the tab that 13 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: says tour and me and to Judais cannot wait to 14 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: see you on Tuesday, June eighteenth in New York City. 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King, 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: years a production experience. Twice a week on Reality with 19 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the 20 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable 21 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Drives 22 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: on today's episode of Reality with the King, Honey, I'm 23 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: with the King of summerhouse Baby, the King of Martha's Vineyard, 24 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: the King of shady confessionals Honey, and the King of memes. Apparently, 25 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: please give it up for the star, Honey, A summer 26 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: Martha's been your resting. 27 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: What an introduction. I so appreciate you. 28 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 1: I love you, President. How have you been? 29 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: You know? Life is life in like I've I just 30 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: literally made a post the other day that said, you 31 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: know what, I'm in a season of my life where 32 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm getting everything I prayed for, and I just hope 33 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: it continues like this is this is a blessing, honestly, 34 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: so I just I just pray it pay it continues, 35 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: you know, because everybody ain't eight ball all the time. 36 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: So let's just hope this maintain no listen, it will 37 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: maintain listen. 38 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: As the King of Reality Television press and Okay, my 39 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: advice to you is just enjoy the ride and remain humble. Okay, yes, 40 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: because You're only as good as your last episode. Honey, 41 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: and the folks who love You're gonna read. 42 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: You try, you know, but that's incredibly real. Though I 43 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: always said this, I appreciate these moments because we know 44 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: reality can be fleeting, so it's like, why not just 45 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: enjoy the ride while it's here. 46 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Summer House, Martha's being here is such a good show. 47 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: You are so fantastic on the show, Preston, And I 48 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: want to firstveil this though, how did you get cast 49 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: on the show? Because you never saw yourself being on 50 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 1: a reality show, so I want to know how all 51 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: of that came about too. 52 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the short of it is that, I mean, 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: really it was by way of connection to my line 54 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 2: brother Silas and then Jasmine. They were on the vineyard already. 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: I was on the vineyard, but separate. We weren't staying 56 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: in the same house. And it just happens that some 57 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: of them who were already together, like Silas, Jasmine, Jordan, 58 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: I think Shanise, Jason, Dad took this picture and kind 59 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: of it was sought out, and then I guess the 60 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: casting folks were like, well, if you know anybody else 61 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: who could actually be good for the show, let us know, 62 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: we'll just reach out. And then of course Silas reached 63 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: out to me and then was like, Hey, what are 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: your thoughts. I'm like, hell, no, this doesn't make any sense. 65 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: I'm not doing this because you have to understand my 66 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: career was like on this like upward trajectory, and you 67 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: can't control a lot on reality TV. Like even with 68 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: me knowing I can control my responses to certain things, 69 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: there's just a lot there. And as a reality TV watcher, 70 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: I know that. So I was like, all right, this 71 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: may not make sense. But the more we talked about it, 72 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: I had this list of pros and cons, and suddenly 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: the pro started to aweigh the cons of what I 74 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: could do and what I could contribute to reality TV, 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: especially with the network like Bravo. Right, something's so expansive, 76 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: something that I personally haven't really seen black gay men 77 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 2: being like on the center stage, if you will. Like 78 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: a lot of times we were seen as the accessories, 79 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: the friend ofs and all love truly to those individuals. 80 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: But it was just the time I think that we 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 2: had to shine a little bit brighter and that space 82 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: just opened up. 83 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: Oh baby, you opened up the space. Honey, You're owning 84 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: the space. You're clearing the girls, your confessional addites are 85 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: so funny to me. And the thing that I love 86 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: about you, Preston, I can tell that you're just authentically you. 87 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: And what I love the most about you is you 88 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: are authentically black. 89 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you know this. So a 90 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: couple of friends texted me in the pastor ble of 91 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: days and was like, I don't know if you know, 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: but one of your tweets from ten years ago is 93 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: in this black Twitter documentary and I was like, oh really, 94 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: and they were like yeah, so they sent it to 95 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: me and I was like, see, this is important though, right, like, 96 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: because the reality is I have been very active ono, 97 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Like a lot of these new people use x, I 98 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: use Twitter, so like, at the end of the day, 99 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: it's like, you probably will pull up some tweets about 100 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: me being extremely black, because that's just who I always 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: have been. Frankly, no, but. 102 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: That's what you bring to the show that I think 103 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: is so refreshing. Like you said, is what you bring 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: to the network that we haven't seen. And I'm happy 105 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 1: that Ravo has chosen to really do a black version 106 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: of Summer House. And I think all of you, I 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: call y'all kids, because I'm your older big brother, right 108 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: so I think you kids do a fantastic job at 109 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: just being yourselves and representing the show, representing yourselves. I'm 110 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: a huge fan of the show. What's interesting about it 111 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: is you talk about Silas, which is Jasmine's husband, being 112 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: your line brother, and he of course was like, oh, bro, 113 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you want to do the show? 114 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Now? 115 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: What happened to you and Jasma Honey? Because when you 116 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: went to Jamaica with Bria Jordan, Jasmine wasn't part of 117 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: that equation. So what is going on? Because I thought 118 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: the show was built around Jasmine Honey and you left 119 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: her in the dust pan with the broom. 120 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: I love this question because it's always important to correct 121 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: the record. Jasmine at that point, in my honest opinion, 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: was not really my friend in that way. She is 123 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: my line brother's wife, and I don't think that's atypical 124 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: for like people who have ls's and LB's Like you 125 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: are your part of it, and I was in the 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: wedding to be very clear, but even Silas will admit 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: that him and I were not super tight like we 128 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: were a line brother. And as someone who's about to 129 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: get married next year, I can tell you that a 130 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: lot of people who you pick for your weddings sometimes 131 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: are not your closest and closest it's people who are responsible, 132 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: and it's people who you have love for, who you 133 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: know are going to pay their bills, be on time, 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: and actually make sure things go smoothly and so, and 135 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: that's just what That's the main advice I've gotten from 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: a lot of my married friends, frankly and so. But 137 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Sars and I are like, 138 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: we're cool, right, But Silas will even admit we were 139 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: not like this, And I think our relationship has like 140 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: had its ebbs and flows, certainly, But I say that 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: as the context to say Jasmine was really her like 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: their friends. So even when we were having this like 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 2: full conversation about should Jasmine on the trip, they will. 144 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: I'll tell you I never said no ever, because it 145 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: wasn't my place to. It's like, through their connection and relationships, 146 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: I built separate friendships with the people who you just named, 147 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: and it just felt like it made sense to go. 148 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: They had all those conversations around Oh, maybe it does 149 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: make sense. Maybe it doesn't make sense. First of all, 150 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: I will always have issues with people who aren't introspective 151 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: enough when they're the common denominator in certain situations, everyone 152 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: is not randomly not speaking to you. They may not 153 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: be telling you the truth, they may not even be 154 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: sharing it out loud, but they share it with me. 155 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking about those women. I'm talking 156 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: about a couple of guys. What were they saying about 157 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: Jazmin that she was being different the Jazzminte they knew 158 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: before we started filming season one was different than the 159 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: Jazmine they recognized during filming and after the fact, and 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: even in my interactions they were different. It didn't make 161 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: me dislike her, but it did make me. 162 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: Go, I don't know and fear like she got a 163 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: big hit or ego because of the show, just moving 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: different lead. 165 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: I mean, like, and I'm not even trying to be shady. 166 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: This is what I'm really like, Shady and truth can coexist, like, 167 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: but I'm really not trying to be shady. When I 168 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: say this, right, she will admit that she was buying 169 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: Instagram fun like she bought Instagram followers, like it's stuff 170 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: like that that for me makes it. It makes me 171 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: uncomfortable because I don't understand why you're doing it. We 172 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 2: had this full conversation in the text group, all of 173 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: us said so like, no one is shocked. I think 174 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: people just don't want to say it. And I'm always 175 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: in trouble for being the person who decides to be honest. 176 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: But I'm like, we know some of us felt uncomfortable. 177 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: It didn't make her a villain, it didn't make her 178 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: a bad person. We were just like, this is different 179 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: than the person we're used to, and that built some 180 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: tension for some of the folks. 181 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: And one thing I will say, because as a gay 182 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: black man myself, who have a lot of female friends 183 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: and we hang out whatever, one thing I will say, 184 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: not to speak for you, but I think I think 185 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: you may agree with this. When it comes to the 186 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: gays and the girls. The girls shockingly, because I know 187 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: y'all think we're messy too. They are kind of a 188 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: not in this case, you're not the girls fight. 189 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's showing stuff. This is why I always 190 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: need to clear the records and establish friendships and what 191 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 2: words mean and what they don't mean. Because everyone calls 192 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: everyone their friends, and I'm very clear about who my 193 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: friends are and who they're not. 194 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: So when it comes to the summer House, Martha's been 195 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: your cast. Who are your friends? 196 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: People I would consider my friends, meaning like I talk 197 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: to them often, I don't I feel like I can 198 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: trust them, et cetera. Would be Jordan's Summer, Nick, Emir, Noel, Shanise. 199 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: Those are the people I talk to you, probably the 200 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: most consistently. I don't talk to Bria often. I don't 201 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 2: talk to oh and Alex too. Sorry, I don't talk 202 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: to Bria often. I don't talk to Jasmine often, even 203 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: though we you know, we're trying to figure it out. 204 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: We're trying to figure it out. So yeah, so honestly, 205 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: Jasmin and Bria are probably there too. I talk to 206 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: the least as a fan of the show. 207 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: I adore your friendship with Jasmine and Silas, and I 208 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: will love to see you and Jasmine get to a 209 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: good place. Do you think there's a world where you 210 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: two can get to a good place. 211 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: I would love that, like I would absolutely love that. 212 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: I just want us to start from a place of 213 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: honesty and certain lack of expectations, right, I think there 214 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 2: are certain things expected of me that she and others 215 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: were not expect of anyone else. For example, I've been 216 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 2: dubbed right the voice of Reason, the more of the 217 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: neutral person overall. But I'm like, I getn't title myself that, 218 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: and so like, y'all are putting this burden on me, 219 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: and it doesn't escape me that I happen to be 220 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: the only queer person in this house either, and we 221 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: always feel this burden of always having to be there 222 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: for everyone else, and so I'm kind of exhausted with it. 223 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, as long as we can actually 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: create this environment where our friendships seem as equal as 225 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: they can and not being like well precedent stand up 226 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: for me, like you don't expect these people to stand 227 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: up for you either, So, like you know, it just 228 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: doesn't make sense for me personally. I pray we can 229 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: get to a good spot. Like, honestly, this show really 230 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: is built around friendships, and I think it would be 231 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: terrible when God forbid, when the show ends down the line. 232 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: I would hate that this is what we couldn't this 233 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: is what broke us, because to be honest, if there 234 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: wasn't for it, we would still be okay, right, we 235 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: would just go along with the get along. And so 236 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: I think, obviously this is new for all of us. 237 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: We're figuring it all out. But I think we have 238 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: to like give each other permission to not censor ourselves. 239 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: We're no, we're going to do these interviews, and so 240 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 2: it's like give us permission to actually tell our own 241 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: truth and our own side of the story. And I 242 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: don't think everyone on our cast unfortunately allows each other 243 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: to be that free. 244 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: Did you see the interview that Jasmine I did? 245 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: I did? Yeah? 246 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: How did you feel when she made it seem as 247 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: if the people who develoved an ego on the show 248 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: were you and the rest of the people in the 249 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Jamaica trip. 250 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: Well, that more sounds like jealousy from the non invitation, 251 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: because the reality is Jasmon didn't really know me. Jasmine 252 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: and I hung out maybe six times before the show, 253 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: Like this is why I'm like, what the hell are 254 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: you talking about? Like honestly, like we didn't really know 255 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: each other, so like it just fascinates me because again, 256 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: I am very clear about who my people are and 257 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: who they're not, and I'm not about to create this 258 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: like entire dynamic. Like everybody in DC when they see 259 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: me on the street, everyone talks about how I'm the 260 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: same exact person who they've known for the past fourteen years. 261 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: And so it's like, if you think I'm going to 262 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: hold your opinion higher, we haven't even spent two hands together. 263 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: I just can't. I can't take that opinion seriously. I'm sorry, Yeah, 264 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: I just I can't. You are, but you are not 265 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: about the whole higher opinion than my best friend of 266 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: twelve years, Like, I I'm sorry. 267 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: Would you say that when it comes to this show, 268 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: was it difficult for you to walk into a situation 269 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: knowing that there is cameras twenty four to seven? And 270 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: did that make some of you and the cast more 271 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: conscious of your behavior because you knew that by any 272 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: given moment, there's a camera where backs up the bathrooms. 273 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: I think yes and no. So like I think the 274 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: first summer when we filmed, I think it was much 275 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: more like old crap. Like I'm literally walking down the 276 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: steps and I'm accidentally treating this like as avid elementary, 277 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: so I'm just looking directly in the camera. I'm like, oh, 278 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, y'all. I'm sorry. But I think you know, 279 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: when I started to learn that there was like Mike's 280 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: and headboards and different things, I'm like, Okay, this is 281 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: a lot. But I think honestly, the second summer, which 282 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: is I think while we were so activated so quickly 283 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: on the first day, is I think we just didn't 284 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: care anymore. I mean, it was just like whatever, Like 285 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna get what they're gonna get from us. Literal, 286 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: my whole ass cheeks is out this summer. So I 287 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: think you'll just, you know, we let it go a 288 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: little bit more. But I've also realized the truth is 289 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: you can't run away from yourself no matter how much 290 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: you try, and you know the real you is going 291 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: to eventually come out. But that's just real. Right, Like 292 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: we're filming for a couple of weeks, You're gonna have 293 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: the good, bad, and ugly, and I think people wish 294 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: they didn't show the ugly, but we all have it 295 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: in us, right, It's just different things that's gonna bring 296 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: it out. 297 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And one thing we're walking the season, there's been 298 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: this dialogue and we're seeing it for the past couple 299 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: of episodes about your friend Nick being too handsy. I 300 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on that, because again I'm 301 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: not in the house obviously, and the house is twenty 302 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: for seven, but based on the show, and again this 303 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: is my opinion, I didn't think Nick came across that 304 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: way unless there's the things that happened that I'm not seeing. 305 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: And I could tell that at the moment he was 306 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: informed of this. What I did appreciate that he addressed 307 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: it hit on. He's like, let's talk about it, and 308 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I thought he handed that delicately. But man, we're seeing 309 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: the conversation happen again, so I want to get your 310 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: thoughts on it, Like, is Nick a handsy person? Nick? 311 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: So this is why I always said, hansy does not 312 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: mean an appropriate person, right know, only people frankly who 313 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: can judge that is the person who like feels your 314 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: fingers on them. But that's the point I was originally 315 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: trying to say to him. Anyway, It's like, yes, some 316 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: people at that point, it was Jordan and Summer who 317 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: were having that conversation, which to me felt very different 318 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: because they do have a close relationship and so you know, 319 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: for me, I was like, Okay, I cannot tell Nick, 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: but we kind of are already that. Honestly, that episode 321 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: was kind of funny because when Nick was like, we'll 322 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: just do what I do, do nothing, I'm like, Okay, 323 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: I feel like this is God because I probably would 324 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: have kept this in, but stop the wills funny. I 325 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: stopped the will Ye like, well, yeah, I'm like, NAHV 326 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: that just said it. I can't just let this go. 327 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: So you know, I mentioned it and he was I 328 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: think kind of floored at first, but then did respond 329 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: I think to your point, like well, and how he 330 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: went about it. I do think Nick can be handsy. 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: I just don't think that necessarily means inappropriate. And I 332 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: think it's because Nick is very affectionate. So even with me, 333 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 2: Nick is like always hugging on me, grabbing on me, 334 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: like that is just who Nick is. But some people aren't. 335 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: Some people don't like that right, And so for me, 336 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 2: I was like, well, it's not really about if you 337 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: feel your handsy. If someone is making a common aboud 338 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: it and maybe making them a little uncomfortable, and that's 339 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: kind of just is what it is. I think it 340 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: coming up again, which you'll see. I think it's weird 341 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: actually how it came up again. I feel like it 342 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: was done to be messy by the person who brought 343 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 2: it up. Ultimately, other than that, it was just kind 344 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: of like girl talk, like they were just chilling and talking. 345 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: I think what led to it was not as sincere 346 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: as me bringing it to Nick's attention. And yeah, y'allmost 347 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: see all that, but I didn't like how it came 348 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: off the second time. 349 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: So speaking of the second time Will and Mariah second 350 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: time around, Okay, well we saw first season with Phil 351 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: who by the way, you know how they call some 352 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: reality stars who get a second season the second season 353 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: blow up? Your band's feel had a second season blow up. 354 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: He was always like an attractive person, That's what I'm 355 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: just like, be attractive, but a little less loud, but 356 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: show some levels. 357 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: What I did love though this season because like like 358 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I said, first season, obviously he appeared to be a 359 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: little just like rude you know again with his behavior 360 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: he was sent home and then this season before he 361 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: got to the house, he had to kiss the ring. 362 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: Well yeah, he had to kiss the ring the call 363 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: mister Preston to apologize like an Baker did on her 364 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: second album track number one and you. 365 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 2: Have a bit. 366 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, so my question to you is this, though, when 367 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: you knew it was him on the phone, did you 368 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: roll the eyes in the back of your head, like, 369 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: y'all are not about to have this man come back 370 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: and create some drama. 371 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because honestly, it was two things. I was like, 372 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 2: this could be a genuine apology. No, actually, I think 373 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: it's two things together. It was a genuine apology in 374 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: some instance, Like the apology was a lot better than 375 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: what I ever thought he could deliver, if I'm being real. 376 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, like that's a that's a start. 377 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: And I knew he was trying to make his way back, 378 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, I am not naive, like I was like, 379 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: I know exactly what this is. But as long as 380 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: we're able to have a conversation, like, honestly, at that point, 381 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: for me, what else do I want? Like, so long 382 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: as you make a commitment to not be that shitty 383 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: you know, pun intended, we're good. Like we're good. Obviously 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 2: the other guys didn't feel that way. But the thing is, 385 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: fil I an't going to be friends, like you know, 386 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: it's just like, okay, we can co exist, that's kind 387 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 2: of it. But I really believe in giving grace like 388 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: that is just how I grew up. That's who I am. 389 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: And I'm just like, so long that you didn't do 390 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: anything to really harm me, we can figure it out. 391 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: Like even if that means just you us drinking together. 392 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if I think the apology 393 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: was that genuine per se, but he didn't have to 394 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: give it, and though I do believe he gave it, 395 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: so he could, you know, be seeing. 396 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: If he's back season three, because obviously, honey, if there's 397 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: the season three you're back, just saying it, would you 398 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: like him to be back? 399 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 2: I'm okay if he doesn't come back, Like, I think, 400 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 2: there are so many single, attractive black men who are 401 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: not as toxic, who could do a great job. But 402 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: you know what, I think we all got a little 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: bit of toxicity in this US. I just think his 404 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: came across a little bit quicker. What you know that's 405 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: toxic though, Preston, look, well you know that makes your 406 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: reality TV. Not everything could be seen. So there were 407 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: there were parts where I was like, I don't like this, 408 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: and it reminds me too much of like these straight 409 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 2: men when I was growing up who made sure I 410 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: was uncomfortable, and I'm like, and I don't like this. 411 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: Oh really okay, I. 412 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: Mean, which was part of the reason why I even 413 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: wanted to have the conversation, which frankly is why I 414 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: was so frustrated with the conversation he had with Bria 415 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 2: after the fact, because I actually told the entire house 416 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: how I felt as a gay man, and I'm just like, 417 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: most of y'all won't understand this, and that's no shade, 418 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: like you're not gay. So I get that something's kind 419 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: of flower your head certain words you don't understand the 420 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: meaning of. And I was like, but this makes me uncomfortable. 421 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: So after the fact, when I heard the conversation, like, 422 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: can't no grown ass man be that upset? I know, right, 423 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: it was like, Okay, now I don't trust you, Like 424 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: there were so many things in that moment that made 425 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: me really frustrated. Then I'm like, all right, I'm gonna 426 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 2: have to wash my hands clean of this and start 427 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: looking at people differently. 428 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Now I get it, okay. 429 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: Going to Mariah black Twitter is funny because when Maria 430 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 3: was sitting home child, I was floored with black Twitter saying, no, 431 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: this is effed up. 432 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: We want her back. Team Mariah like the she has 433 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: a lot of supporters of people, And it made because 434 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: again when I watch shows Preston, I go on Twitter 435 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: and I'm always looking like what other people saying because 436 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: I like to take the brain of salt at times. 437 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: But I thought it was funny because I said, Oh, 438 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, we don't what what she's about it, we. 439 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: Want to see it. 440 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: When it comes to Mariah, what are your thoughts on 441 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: her and should she get a second chance season three? 442 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 2: This is easy for me and the answer is yes. Like, 443 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 2: first of all, Marian and I do have a really 444 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: good relationship and actually we're kind of from around the 445 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: same neative Nekata would so like, I know people like 446 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: her very well, and it is the diamond and the rough, 447 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: but it's also the underdog, and I really really love 448 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: an underdog. I think Mariah also, to be honest, is 449 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: her story to tell. But she was just going through 450 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: a lot when we were like initially during the first summer, 451 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: and so I do think it was her time to leave, 452 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 2: maybe not for what happened like but the situation itself, 453 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 2: but she she just needed to go and be with herself, 454 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: incent to herself, and so I don't think she really 455 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: got a chance to show just how fucking dope she is, 456 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: and that is that is really what I would love 457 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 2: to see. Like she's funny, she can dress nice body, 458 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 2: like good spirit, like, I think Mariah is truly a 459 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: great person, and I really do want her to have 460 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 2: that chat. So I do too. 461 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: I love Mariah. I was like, no, bring her back. 462 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: I was glad to hear her come back to I 463 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: think Mariah is has potential to be a great reality star, 464 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: and I'd love to see her get another chance to 465 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: really play with you. With you guys, would you like 466 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: to have another queer person on the show with you? 467 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: I would, I would, But you know what's funny, it's 468 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: not even a bud. I one hundred percent would like one. 469 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 2: But I know people and there will try to be 470 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: people who try to, of course stirve the mess with 471 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 2: two gay people like that is just like again, I 472 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: am not naive, so like that's not very much. Already 473 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: know some of the things that could potentially happen. But 474 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 2: the truth is I get along mostly with everybody all 475 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 2: the time. Like that's not like until you like until 476 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: you are funny and you want me to be hilarious. 477 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm good, but I am just an easy going person. 478 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: But I would love, love love another queer person, queer woman, 479 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: queer man, like just someone who I don't have to 480 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 2: explain everything with someone I guess who can share the 481 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: burden of being the accountability partner, since apparently that gets 482 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 2: put on us. That is what I would love. 483 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: No, I would love that too. I think that'll be 484 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: Listen to me. I've given Hey, guys, I'm giving you 485 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: all some advice per season for your time. I want 486 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: to talk about Amir's girlfriend. 487 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: I knew it. 488 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: People are saying on Twitter that Amir's girlfriend clearly likes 489 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: black men, but they don't know if she knows how 490 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: to foreign friendships with black women. A lot of things 491 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: we've been seeing with her that appears to be a 492 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: little interesting about her behavior and comments. What are your 493 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on her? 494 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: I really can't speak because I really don't know her well. 495 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: So I think that may have been my third time 496 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 2: meeting her, so I can't really speak to her politics 497 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 2: or anything like that, just who she is. I can 498 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: be honest because my thing is I study culture, gender 499 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: and sexuality, like race, gender sexuality. So even watching it back, 500 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: I pringised on quite a few moments. There were just 501 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: some moments that I hated to watch, honestly, and Candice 502 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: and I did an Instagram live about this because you know, 503 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: a lot of viewers kept commenting, and it was clear 504 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: that they had some feelings. And I know folks get 505 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: really frustrated with people using the word microaggressions, but if 506 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: there's the white person touching the black person's hair, if 507 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: there are particular comments like that, I imagine she's not 508 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: doing well left for seeing in some of the comments. 509 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of comments. I've stumbled on them myself, 510 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: but I really do and I'm not even just saying this, 511 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: but I really do hope there's a pause for introspection, 512 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 2: like everybody ain't lying on you, and there has to 513 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: be like something where you're like, man, I'm messed up, 514 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: Like there's something I did that triggered people. There's things 515 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: I didn't even know I was doing, probably, and I 516 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: just I want people to get there. 517 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: Have you heard from a mirror about how he's been feeling. 518 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I think he just doesn't understand 519 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: really and I'm trying to like talk to them about why, 520 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: like what is going on, you know, because the mirror 521 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: has admitted from last season especially, he's admitted that he 522 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: doesn't really have like a lot of black friends in Texas, 523 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 2: et cetera. So there are things naturally, I figure he 524 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 2: wouldn't understand, like my life is black folks all the time, right, Like, so, like, 525 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: I give that there are some things naturally we grew 526 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: up differently. I grew up in all black environments, you know, 527 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: et cetera. But there's so I can spot it instantly, 528 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: things that I know he may kind of struggles spotting 529 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: you through. So I'm not trying to like hold his 530 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: hand through it, but I have to like respect that 531 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: he's like, I actually don't know what's happening, and I'm like, 532 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: y'all messed up. And here's why, like friend and a friend, 533 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: I have to tell you, like, this is what's going on, 534 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: and this is you. You should address it and not 535 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: be so defensive, and here's how you take steps to 536 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: address it. 537 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: No, I'm glad of you said that, because you know, 538 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: that's what I love about this show too, because I 539 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: feel like one thing you guys do well is you 540 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: hold each other accountable and try to explain the situation, 541 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: and you guys addressed things hit on. So I'm hopeing 542 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: that Ameyor and his girlfriend at least understand is based 543 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: on one thing. Listen, the beauty of television is you 544 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: get to watch yourself and be like, oh, I was 545 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: like that. You know, like you said, some introspection that 546 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: could happen, And my hope is that they both feel 547 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: that way too. What I loved about this season two 548 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: was your choice into really diving more to your personal life. 549 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: My condolen says to you about your father, Do you 550 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: have any regrets not going to the funeral? 551 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: No? No, and in fact, because honestly, the relationship with 552 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: my father's son is even worse. I know it was 553 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: the right decision. Like it's not good and it's not 554 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: even better based on the show you think the episode. Oh, 555 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: I just think they all need some couch time, and 556 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to invest in it. So 557 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's best for me to just distance myself 558 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: from whatever is going on account. 559 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that. 560 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: No, I appreciate that. 561 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: What I love though I love your fiance. 562 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: Me too. 563 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: These seems so sweet and just like super supportive of you. 564 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: Talk to me about that because one thing, and I'm 565 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: sure you've seen a lot of this, one thing we 566 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: don't see a lot of on television is black queer relationship. 567 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: When it comes to two black men, you know a 568 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: lot of people on social media they feel like when 569 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: a black man enters the space of Hollywood, when a 570 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: gay black man, excuse me, in terms the space of Hollywood, 571 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: they're never with a black man. So the representation that 572 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: you showed with just bringing him on, I thought was great, 573 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: not just for us to see it, but like it 574 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: was just great for representation. Were you conscious of that 575 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: when you decided to show that part of your life. 576 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was. But also I will never and have 577 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: never dated anyone but black men, So like I'm just like, 578 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like I just it's too much to explain. 579 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: I can't. I am not doing it. So but so 580 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: that part was like, oh, I mean clearly. What's funny 581 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: was some people tweeted me people are shady. They were 582 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: like who this is? I was so nervous I thought 583 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: pressing it was gonna be with a white man. I 584 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: was like, what I said, do you even know anything 585 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: about me? And they were like no. But but to 586 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: your point, they were like, when we do see black 587 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: gayment on TV, you know they do have a non 588 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 2: black partner usually, So I was very conscious of that. 589 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: But to be honest, Donald truly is the sweetest thing 590 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: like when Nick said Donald is the happiest person he knows, 591 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: like it is true, like he is always happy, like 592 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 2: and so you know, even when even the moments where 593 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: we were like, okay, is this is this worth a debate? 594 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: Probably not. Let's just let's order some food, but that 595 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: is really just us, like we you know, we don't 596 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: really I know, people probably think it's weird. We just 597 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: don't really argue like that because it's like what why. 598 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: We also have like a twenty four hour rule where 599 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: it's like I am if I'm actually like, let's take 600 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: twenty four hours and if I'm no longer angry, then 601 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 2: it was probably me and not you. Right, There's like 602 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: these different moments where it's like okay, you know, because 603 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: you're going into a relationship, it's two different people joining together. 604 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: You're bringing all your stuff in with you, you know, 605 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: so you're being triggered every day by small things, especially 606 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: when you move together. There's so many things that could happen. 607 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: But all that to say, I'm just grateful to like 608 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: for people to see our relationship, right, Like you don't 609 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: obviously get to see like the ins and outs, but 610 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: just the visibility of two black gay men kissing on TV. 611 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: It means a lot. 612 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: No, it does, it does, And I love that you're 613 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: showing that. And like I said, he just seems so 614 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: sweet and me and you are alike in the sense 615 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: of like big personalities when we walking to him. Really 616 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: we own it. We just have that quality and the 617 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: partner that works best for people like you and I 618 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: are reserved. They're like, this is your thing. They're the 619 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: voice of reason in our lives. 620 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, because I'll be like, tell you 621 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 2: what he was. Okay, relax first, but you know it's funny. 622 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: Donald is an introvert. But when I tell you, no 623 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: one turns up like Donald, though, he will turn up 624 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: and they will be knocked out right in the couch 625 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: like you saw like that. That is really him threw 626 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 2: it through. But that is why I love him. He 627 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: is very supportive, Like he made it clear like we 628 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: were dating a couple of years before the show even 629 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: came up for either one for me especially, but eventually 630 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: for us, and so this was not part of our journey. 631 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: And so honestly, he could have been like, I'm good 632 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: if this is the direction you want to take and 633 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: take it, but I don't want to be public in 634 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: this way, but he didn't. He was just like, if 635 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: this is the journey you want to go on, let's 636 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 2: go it together and we'll figure it out together. And 637 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 2: so that's what I really appreciate. So when he came on, 638 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: he made clear like I'm just here to have fun, 639 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: Like keep me out of the mess, keep me out 640 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: of the drama. I'm here to have fun. 641 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I love that is all of your cast members invited 642 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: to your wedding. 643 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually right now they will be, but things can shift. 644 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 2: And I but you know, I say that because I really, 645 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 2: no matter how much shade we throw, no matter how 646 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: much like people, I mean only two people may have 647 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: some feelings about me right now, to be honest, like 648 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm close with the vast majority of my castmates, but 649 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 2: even then for me, it's stuff like that is so temporary, 650 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 2: Like the anger is so temporary that it's like I 651 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: would hate to make this lifelong decision of memorying of 652 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 2: us remembering each other at my wedding, at our wedding, 653 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: then like rest on this like temporary moment, Like it 654 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: just doesn't feel healthy and it doesn't feel mature. So yes, 655 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: right now, everyone is about it. 656 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, last question, you take your first reunion? Yes, Now, look, honey, 657 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: as a reality TV fan like you are to have 658 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: a reunion, I'm pretty sure you was like okay, because 659 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: you understand the assignment. Now keep it real with your boy. 660 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: You're a big Did you go in with some rehearse reads? 661 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: I did not. I can answer that immediately. Listen, I'm 662 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: a black day man. I don't need to rehearse, no reeds. 663 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: So it's coming. It's coming. And in fact, what I 664 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: can't say to you, Carlos is you know that I 665 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: haven't rehearsed because if someone say something, I'm like what, 666 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 2: it's very immediate, you know, you know? 667 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: Okay, before I found out the reunion it is going 668 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: to be at the clubhouse. Yeah, next say, Andy should 669 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: be you and Jasmine because to me, y'all the force 670 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: market flings. 671 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: On the show. 672 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. 673 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, besides herself? 674 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, who gave a great performance at the reunion? Like 675 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: who who? Who? Are you lying? 676 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: Okay, bitch? Yeah? Honestly, even though I think she was 677 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 2: a little shady, I think Jasmine. Yeah, I think Jasmin. 678 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: You know, if there's something I have to respect about someone, 679 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: who is going to say the thing like, even if 680 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 2: it feels shady or a little nasty, just as long 681 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: as you can take it back right like I you know, 682 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: and so I can't lie. At one point I was like, oh, 683 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: that's what I was like, you know what, respect respect? 684 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 2: Actually so but honestly, so, I think who did the 685 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: best to be honest. Just what I'm remembering is I 686 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 2: would say me, Jasmine, Noel, oh. 687 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: Summer. 688 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: Jean, what she was supposed to do? You know what 689 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I could be good or bad, but you know, 690 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 2: she did not hold back. That's what I'll say. She 691 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: did not hope that those are the ones and I 692 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 2: think and I think I appreciate it. I will say, 693 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 2: the conversation between Jordan and Jasmine, Yeah, I don't gain. 694 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how everything's gonna look and people gonna feel, 695 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 2: but I think it was the start of a healthy conversation. 696 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: Do you have any regrets like doing reality television? Like 697 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: you're famous? 698 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. No, Yeah, I mean maybe 699 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: like a C plus lister, but like I know you 700 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: want down the street now, Preston, Oh my god, yes, 701 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 2: And it is even the cast makes a joke about 702 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: this too, because I guess because I have the most 703 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: consistent aesthetic, So like you'll always see me with the hat, 704 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 2: maybe some shades. People like the joke is always they'll 705 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: probably notice Preston first, and then they'll notice us if 706 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 2: we're around each other and that and that. So like 707 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: when we were all just in New York, when I 708 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 2: tell you we got stopped so much, like it was 709 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,919 Speaker 2: honestly the sweetest thing. But I don't think I've ever 710 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 2: experienced as much love as I got until I went 711 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: to Philly. It was wild. I'm not like, shout out 712 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 2: to Philly for real, because this is around the same time. 713 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 2: It was mostly like DC or Philly Black Pride. Pam relays. 714 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: When I tell you, there was one moment it was 715 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: four black women in the car and they were stopped 716 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: at a red light. I was crossing the street to 717 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 2: walk back to my hotel. Someone rolled down in one 718 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: It was like that and literally I ran over to 719 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: their car and they were just taking pictures like with 720 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 2: me outside the car. It was the sweetest moment. And yeah, 721 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 2: that's It's been so much love and I've been so grateful. 722 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: But here's the thing, right, I didn't have to get 723 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 2: picked for TV. There's something that truly saw me. There's 724 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: something that Bravo on me, and you know, and honestly, 725 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: I can be very I think if you just looked 726 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: at my resume, there's no way to do would make 727 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 2: sense for me. And so I'm just grateful they saw 728 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 2: beyond the accolades right and saw if there's someone who 729 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 2: could be dynamic and funny and yes, occasionally shady, but 730 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 2: like someone who just felt relatable and that just meant 731 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: a lot to me. 732 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New 733 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: episodes dropped on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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