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What 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to hood and what Now? The history podcast with 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: me your petty host Katie Charlwood, intersectional feminist and reader 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: of books. And I'm going to start this off by saying, Hi, 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: if you are new here, this is a history podcast 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: that is not your history class. You will hear things 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: here that you probably wouldn't have learned in school or 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: may have been actively avoided being told in school. But 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: that's okay. We're allowed to get her know from different places, 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: and it's okay if we have different opinions. However, don't 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: be a dick about it. 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 5: I feel is kind of the way of things. Back 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: to the story in hand. 39 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: This week, I am very, very excited. 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 5: To talk about a whoror of your Nell. Gwen. 41 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: I love Nell, Gwen. She is glorious. I'm gonna start 42 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: off by giving you some sources. We're just gonna jump 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: right into it this week. We're gonna jump right in. Okay, 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: So sources okay. First one is a novel. It's called 45 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: Mistress nell Gwin by Marjorie Boonen, but it's it is 46 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: also known as Nell Gwin a decoration, so it's more 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: of a historical novel than it is a biography, but 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: it was still an interesting piece to read. Another vert 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: is nel Gwen by Charles bow Clerk, the first Duke 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: of Saint Albans. Who is her son? So obviously an 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: article on the astonishing life of Nell Gwyn At the 52 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: National Theater School of Canada. 53 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 6: There is Britannica dot com, Encyclopedia dot com, oh, Historic 54 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 6: qk dot com Neil Gwen, Mistress of King Charles A second. 55 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: Let us get into Nil Gwin, just like King Charles 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: the Second did whoa, whoa, whoa what? I love Neil Gwen. Oh. 57 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: I should probably add that I will always try and 58 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: have inclusive language here on the podcast, especially because one 59 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: it's just necessary. I don't understand why you wouldn't. However, 60 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: we're dealing with the sixteen hundreds, the seventeenth century. There 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: is always the possibility that if I'm using a direct quote, 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: maybe by Nell herself, who knows if I'm using quotes 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: and references from the era, some statements may not be 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: as inclusive or respectful as you know we would have 65 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: them now, and we have to take that into consideration 66 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: when we're dealing with stuff in the past. So let's 67 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: get right into it. The details regarding the origins of 68 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Nell's life are a kind of fuzzy because we don't 69 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: have complete verified accounts on one way or the other. 70 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: It's very much like we were talking about Grandeur Wheel. 71 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: I've done my best to make this as clear as 72 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: possible and as factual as possible, but a lot of 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: this information is coming from like poetry, plays, novels, gossip 74 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: and you know, sexist historians. So we're going to take 75 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: what we can with the pinch of salt. Eleanor Gwyn 76 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: was born on the second of February, perhaps in sixteen fifty, 77 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: perhaps in sixteen forty two, we don't know. We don't 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: know Her mother Ellen or there and thereabouts, known as 79 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: old Madam, Madame Gwen or Old Magwin, and she basically 80 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: lived most of her life in the West End of London. 81 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Most biographers claim she was low born, probably because most 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: people back then we're low born, and her father was 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: some dead maybe from Wales, maybe. 84 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: Died in prison. 85 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Who is he? We don't know? Do we care? No, 86 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: we fucking don't. So okay. Now, at one point is 87 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: assigned arms similar to those of the Gwinns of I'm 88 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: gonna try and pronounce this Welsh name and I'm gonna fail, 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: but I think it's. 90 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: Sansnor than sonor l l a n s a n 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 5: and o R. 92 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I tried. If I failed, I'm so sorry, Welsh people, 93 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I am so sorry. So like, loads of places claimed 94 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: to be like the birthplace of Neil Gwynn because they're 95 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: able to have a record of it, so they're like, yeah, 96 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: we totally are. So you've got Hereford, you've got London 97 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: mainly Covent Garden, and you've got Oxford and they're like yep. 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Like there's a traditional belief that she was born in 99 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Pipewell Lane in Hereford. And one of the reasons why 100 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: that one is so popular is because like Gwinn's like 101 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: a Welsh name and it is Hereford's on like the 102 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: border of Wales. Whether or not Nell's dad was like 103 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: dead or in prison or we're fucked off somewhere, we 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: don't know, We don't care. 105 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 5: But there's like stories he died in a debtor's prison. 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: So Nell, Rose and her mum, they're stuck. Like you're 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: a woman in the sixteen hundreds, What the fuck are 108 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: you gonna do? Respectable employment ain't exactly easy to get by. 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: So Ellen, Helena, Helena big mog Gwin, whatever she's called, 110 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: she decides to turn to the oldest profession in the 111 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: book and she sells her body to feed her little girls. So, 112 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Madam Gwynn, she was an alcoholic and she ran what 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: was known as a body house, body bawdy, or you know, 114 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: as we would call it a brothel. Some historians suggest 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: that Nell and her sister Rose, you know, some say 116 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: that she was a child prostitute. Can one really be 117 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: ahl prostitute? Because Nope, too much rage, You're not going 118 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: to do that. So like, you know, some say that, 119 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: you know that she worked in the brothel as a 120 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: she's known as like a body house servant. Perhaps she 121 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: was a cinder girl and a street seller, possibly of 122 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: herrings oysters turnips. She was known as a street hawker. Well, 123 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: so you now, what I can think of is like 124 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: a live alivel So okay, side note, So like we 125 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: always talk about, you know, people of the past, and 126 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: often when prostitutes and what I would call sex workers 127 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: but back then would be called prostitutes or harlots or whatever. 128 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: It's always seen as this very ce day sex workers 129 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: throughout the ages, they tend to be vilified. They tend 130 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: to be seen as these evil, scheming wenches, these harlots. 131 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: It's always seen in this derogatory, awful term, and the 132 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: deviance of the whole situation is always placed upon the women. 133 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: But like it very rarely takes into account that working 134 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: class women like Nell Gwynn had almost zero opportunity, zero 135 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: means of independent survival in that day and age. 136 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: They didn't have it. 137 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: There were little to know opportunities for these people. So 138 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the Cromwells were effectively the buzz killing jons of the 139 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, sixteen hundreds, and they banned anything that they 140 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: felt was frivolous, including like theear tar and parties and 141 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: anything like that. And for like that was like a 142 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: decade of just drab, dreary sadness and Charles the Second, 143 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: the best headline I've seen was Charles the Second was 144 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: the King to. 145 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: Randy to rule. 146 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: It's glorious so King Charles the Second, Oh, King Charles Second. 147 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: Anyone who's seen horrible histories, there was the King Charles 148 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: the Second. Loved to party, he was he was the 149 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: fun king. The monarchy is re established and he gets 150 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: put back in the throne. He goes back. So sixteen 151 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: sixty he's back on the throne. He quickly reinstates the theater. 152 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: He loves theater. And like say, for example, even though 153 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: like Queen Elizabeth was a patron of the arts, shall 154 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: we say, she didn't visit the theater, she never went there. 155 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: It's not something she did. Things were brought to her. 156 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: She was a patron of the arts, but she didn't 157 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: really go there anyway. Point being, he became king and 158 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: one of the first things he did was boom, theaters 159 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: are back. And also he forms acting companies and he 160 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: legalizes the women being allowed to act because like before this, 161 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: all of the actors in any production, in any theater 162 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: group or any company, shall we say, they were played 163 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: by men. But when Charles the Second comes around, he's like, nah, 164 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: they can act to So in sixteen sixty three, the 165 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: King's Company, led by Thomas Kilgrew Thomas Killergrew opens a 166 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: new players the theater in Bridges Street, and this is 167 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: literally built and renamed the Theater Royal Dreary Lane. Mary 168 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: Megs was known as Orange Male. She was a pal 169 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: of old Madam Gwinn's and she had a license to 170 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: then utter and sell oranges, lemon fruit, sweetmeats and all 171 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: manner of fruit ers and confectioners wears within the theater. 172 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: So Orange mal hires the notorious Rose and Nelgwin orange 173 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: girls who they sell these like little small they're known 174 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: as China oranges to the audience inside the theater. They 175 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: sell them for sixpence each and they do it with 176 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: being a bit more scantily clad. So this is the 177 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: King's playhouse, and as we said, Charles himself usually comes 178 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: to performances. So being an orange seller, being an orange 179 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: girl gave them access in connections to London's higher society 180 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have had previously. And another thing they 181 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: would do so they not only would they sell their 182 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: sixpence of oranges, they would deliver messages to and from 183 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: horny high society men and they would get tipped by this, 184 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: tipped for this hopefully in chain and not buy. The 185 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: type of panis Most historians do agree, though, that the 186 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: girls often ended up delivering more than a refreshments, so 187 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: they would sell fruit, they would deliver messages, and they 188 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: would also quite probably possibly provide sexual favors in exchange 189 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: for money. I suppose it depends on how body this 190 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: theater was really I mean, were they giving hand jobs 191 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: in the back of the theater? Were they meeting somewhere 192 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: a bit more discreet? Were they in a box? And 193 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: when if we're in a box, you're generally fine. But anyway, 194 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: point being good oldnell All. He does this for like 195 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: a year. So while she's at the theater, she becomes 196 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: the mistress of the leading man of the theater, Charles Hart. 197 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: So less than a year later she becomes one of 198 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: the first public actresses in England. She's pretty fucking cool, 199 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: so somewhere between the age of fourteen and twenty one, 200 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: because we don't know her birthdate, she manages to level 201 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: up when it becomes one of the actresses at Bridges 202 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Street Theater. Nellyson is like this absolute stunner. So she 203 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: has chestnut hair, light hazel eyes, partly like a really 204 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: nice smile. So she's also described and I'm really sorry 205 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: for this as having curvacious legs and daintily tiny feet. 206 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: This has definitely got some Cinderella field to it. I'm 207 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: just saying, oh man, I mean, here's the thing about Nell. Like, 208 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: we know she's gorgeous, right, oh like and near enough, 209 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: every portrait of Nell really really shows off her bosom. 210 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: The restoration was not a subtle time, my friends, not 211 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: a subtle time. So Nelgwen is witty as fuck, absolutely 212 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: stunning and has a strong, clear voice, which one would 213 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: supposedly have if she was a street hawker before that, 214 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: because she would need to be able to have people 215 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: hear her so she could sell shit. So apparently all 216 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: these things combined caught the eye of Killer Grew, who 217 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, and she had to prove herself clever 218 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: enough to succeed as an actress. Right, So now she 219 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: can't read, she can't write. She is a literate for 220 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: the record, so she basically starts learning shit off other actors. 221 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: So she learns to dance, she learns to perform, you know, 222 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: she takes it all on board. And in general, at 223 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: the time, plays had such short runs because there was 224 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: such a small audience pill as limited people were going 225 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: to the theater, so each thing that was shown was 226 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: always going to have a short run. So the River 227 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Miles states that she was shagging all these actors and 228 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: that's why they told her all the stuff she. 229 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: Wanted to know. 230 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: And you know what you do, what you're going to 231 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: do to get yourself out of the slums of London. Girl, 232 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: live your best life. And at this point she's she's 233 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of celebrity. She's known as pretty Witty Nell. 234 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: We know that she becomes a decent actress and is 235 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: relatively well known by sixteen sixty five, and the first 236 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: recorded appearance we have of her on stage is in 237 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: March sixteen sixty five in the heroic drama The Indian Emperor, 238 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: playing Sadaria, daughter of Motezuma and the love interest of 239 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: Cortes played by her real life lover Charles Hart. 240 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, so this is a drama. 241 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Now ourselves said she wasn't really super into like playing 242 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: drama and didn't release through too much. So when this 243 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: new restoration comedy comes around, Nell Gwynn becomes a fucking star. Unfortunately, 244 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: mid sixteen sixty five. So like, just as she's like 245 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: really hitting her stride, what comes to London the Great 246 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: Plague of London, because of course it does, I know, 247 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Bridges Street shuts down, so Gwynn and 248 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: her mum they basically bollocks off to Oxford following the 249 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: King and his court play. The King's company has these 250 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: these private shows for the King during well, they're like 251 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: hiding from the second plague. And then when the theaters reopen, 252 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Gwen's back on the stage doing her fun thing. So 253 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: the sixty In sixteen sixty seven, she has an affair 254 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: with Charles Sackville and he's known as Lord Buckhurst. Sackville 255 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: was cultured, witchy, satirical, dissolute and utterly charming. But you 256 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: know what was also quite nice about Lord Buckhurst is 257 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: he gave her an allowance of one hundred pounds a 258 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: year so she could leave acting. But it didn't last 259 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: very long. It is sixteen sixty seven and the second 260 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: Duke of Buckingham, George Villiers, goes to Gwynn and he's like, listen, 261 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I want to get Charles's second new mistress, my cousin, 262 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Barbara Palmer. She's just like principal mysterress. She's like number 263 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: one and honestly I really like to get closer to 264 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: the King. I want to move up the ranks a 265 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: little bit more. So maybe you could be as mistress 266 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: because I think you're an actress. He loves a shit, 267 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: what do you think? Gwinn's like, sure, I'll take five 268 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: hundred pounds a year and then today's money fifty six, 269 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty nine pounds and twenty five pence esh. 270 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: So this plan fails. Yeah, she has for five hundred 271 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: for a year and this is like, nah, too much, 272 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: no way mate. 273 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: So he is so annoyed. 274 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: He is shocked and appalled at Nail's response, so fucking 275 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: basically offers it to mal Davis. And I like to 276 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: think that this is just a little bit. 277 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 5: Of spite because he did because she was Gwynn's sort 278 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: of acting rival, like. 279 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: She was the one. So Buckingham's like, you know, I'm 280 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: going to go to the other company with mal Davis. 281 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: She's an actress there. I'm gonna set her up with 282 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: the king because she's cheaper. So that's good. And Nell's like, 283 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: fuck that for a game of soldiers, I don't think, so, 284 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: don't do this to people. But it's still pretty funny. 285 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: Don't do this to people. So mal Davis is due 286 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: to spend an evening with the King and she's having 287 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: her tea time cakes. But little does she know that Nell, 288 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: with the help of a friend, manages to put a 289 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: very powerful laxative into these tea time cakes, thus meaning 290 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: Davis had the runs instead of meeting with the king, 291 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: or maybe she met with the King and then suddenly, 292 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: oh oh, either way, this didn't happen. She managed to 293 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: kaibosch that. So basically, Charles and Nell they begin an 294 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: affair and around about sixteen sixty eight, and in general 295 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: everyone thought, yeah, this isn't gonna last because they were like, 296 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: he runs through women, like he runs through whatever the fuck. 297 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Everyone assumed that this was gonna be another one of 298 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: the King's wings. He was shagg and actress has left 299 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: right and center. He kind of did whatever he wanted. Really, 300 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: but because so there she is. She's mid sixteen sixty eight. 301 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: They're having the reffair. Nell is continuing to act. She's 302 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: known as this comic actress. She's funny, she's witty, she's 303 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: and because she's you know, she's notorious now and this 304 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: brings in like, you know, larger crowds, and then playwrights 305 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: are creating more roles for her, and she's just constantly 306 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: showing up in all these different plays. Yeah, so she's 307 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: in Dryden's and Evening's Love, She's in Lacy's Old Troop 308 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: Cavalier blah blah blah blah. However, so basically she gets 309 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: more committed to the king the less she acts. So, yeah, 310 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: when she meets Charles, he has a wife, a primary mistress, 311 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: and all of these, all these ASIX actresses he just 312 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: cannot keep his dick out of because man, I mean, 313 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: we make jokes about sex adres, but at this point, 314 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: I'm starting to think he really just was a sex 315 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: addict because he was There wasn't anything he wasn't sticking 316 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: his dick in. Charles was married to the Portuguese Queen 317 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: concert Catherine of Braganza, and there was this whole situation 318 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: called the Bedchamber Crisis, which resulted in with most of 319 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Catherine's reading you being dumped back to Portugal and she 320 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: was being ostracized from the court and we're gonna talk 321 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: about we will get into this another time. So basically 322 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: she has no choice but to allow Charles. Charles's mistresses 323 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: to be given like semi official sort of standing and 324 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: you know whatever. So yeah, so basically Nil's adopted into 325 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: court and she is like this permanent fixture in count life. 326 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: So like Nelle had this joke that Charles the Second 327 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: she would call him Charles the third after the other 328 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: two Charles. She was, she was bumping up, was with 329 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: fucking love it neil Gwen when she asked for the 330 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: five hundred pounds from Buckingham and he was like nah. 331 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: So when she becomes Charles mistress, Charles the Second's mistress, 332 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: he gives her an income of four thousand pounds a year, 333 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: and this goes up to nine thousand pounds a year, 334 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: and like in today's money, that's four hundred and fifty 335 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: five thousand, one hundred and fourteen pounds. 336 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 5: What the okay? 337 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: Yes, please, I listen, have as many mistresses do you like? 338 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 5: I'll take that money. 339 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 4: Sports are easy to disagree on. Let's see what happens 340 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: when sports talk hosts talk about something. 341 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 2: They agree on. 342 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: No hold on, I'm saying drivers who switch and save 343 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: with Progressive could save hundreds, Well. 344 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: I disagree. 345 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: I think drivers who switch and save with Progressive could 346 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: save hundreds. Come on, wait, I think we're saying the 347 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: same thing. 348 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 4: Oh so what would you now? Everyone agrees the drivers 349 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: who switch and say with Progressive could save hundreds. Progressia 350 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 4: Casualty Insurance Company Affiliates National Laverge twelve one savings. When 351 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: customer survey who sad with progressed between Jun twenty twenty 352 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 4: and May twenty twenty one, potential savings will very yinks. 353 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 1: You know what, Being an actress in a harlot really 354 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: set her up here because it meant that she was 355 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: used to performing, which is something she would have to 356 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: do at court quite a bit, because life of court 357 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: it's performative, you know what I mean. And even though 358 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: she was disliked by the rival mistresses, obviously she. 359 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 5: Was very well liked by other courtiers. And she was 360 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: and she had she was quite popular with the public. 361 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: Oh my god. So Barbara Palmer, I fucking love this. 362 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: She shows up in this like new fancy carriage, all 363 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: up in Nail's face about it. So Nell. So she 364 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: shows up at Barbara's estate and this rough little cart 365 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: that is being drawn by six oxen. 366 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 5: So she just goes round and round the building. 367 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: Yelling to market. Oh and The whole point of this 368 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: is like, Barbara, can you know, have her fancy carriage 369 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: and her fancy state and do whatever she does and 370 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: act how she wants to act. But they're both mistresses 371 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: and it doesn't change that. So yeah, Nell's out shopping 372 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: and at some point during this shopping spray and her 373 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: coachman is in a fight with like all these other men, 374 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: and she's like, what is going on? And he tells 375 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: her that they called nell Ahore and she responds with 376 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: I am a whore. Find something else to fight about. 377 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: And the story goes that she gives them a wink, 378 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: gets back into her carriage, and then heads on back 379 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: to the palace. Oh so, so nel Gwin decides to 380 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: get a portrait painted of herself. So this portrait of 381 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: nel Gwin is glorious, made by a cleverly anonymous painter 382 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: in the late seventeenth century. Is it's quite small, so 383 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: it's barely larger than a postcard. Let me describe it 384 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: for you. I will post it on the Instagram actually 385 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: for you, so you can have We look a virginal 386 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: white Gwynn and she's in this virginal white chemise. Her 387 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: bosom is showing and she is she's flashing this bountiful 388 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: bosom well stuffing sausages. And if that isn't an innuendo, 389 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I love the idea 390 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: of like sending a nude and it's just like a 391 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: painting that she had to pose for. I love it. 392 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: So while at court Nell wasn't like used to you know, 393 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: money and having a lot of it, and so she 394 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: will like gamble away like massive, massive sums like so 395 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: she's playing cards with this gentleman, shall we say, So 396 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: she loses a bunch of money to him, and he 397 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: tries to pressure her to pay him back with her body, 398 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: and she's like no, she calls him a dog and 399 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: absolutely refuses. 400 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 5: Probably got King Charles thell When. 401 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Nel's with Charles the first couple of years, you know 402 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: there is there isn't that much competition in the way 403 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: where the mistresses. You've got Barbara Palmer who's like already 404 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: on the way out. You know, she's she's getting older, 405 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, she's just not really up for it as 406 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: much anymore. And you've got like mal Davis, who who 407 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: she got rid off. Okay, so love aucking love so 408 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: like proof that Nell is naturally funny. 409 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: So King Charles a second is freaking out. 410 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: He's got all these mistresses and they're all hounding him 411 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: for money, and he's freaking the fuck out, and he's like, Nell, 412 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: what do I do? And her response was, lock up 413 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: your cod piece. I love that. It's like, well, oh, 414 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: maybe if you weren't taking so much time getting your 415 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: dick with you wouldn't have to throw coins at everybody, 416 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: like deal with it, mate. So Nell Gwyn is loved 417 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: by the common people, so like they all know he's 418 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: pretty whitty Nell. And this is all because, like when 419 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: she was acting, she was this really really popular comic 420 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: performer and they loved seeing her as these like sassy 421 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: heroines and comedies and romances. You know, drama wasn't really 422 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: your thing, but she was so loved and you know, 423 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: she was great at it. She gives birth to her 424 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: first son, Charles, on the eighth of May sixteen seventy 425 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: and this is like the King's seventh son by five 426 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: separate mistresses, and he is this is Charles bow Clerk. 427 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: So Nell is this fucking superstar. So a stage company 428 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: literally waits months for her to be ready to go 429 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: back to the stage, and she does. But the reason 430 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: she leaves is because she has to go back to 431 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: courtfield time because there's. 432 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: A new girl in town. 433 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: So she has spent years and years being Charles's favorite mistress. 434 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: So after she gives birth to Charles, this new mistress 435 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: comes in, a French mistress, Louise de Querroll. You know, 436 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: I made of honor for Queen Catherine, but generally this 437 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: is designed by English and friends to sort of, you know, 438 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: as a way to appease King Charles. Louise becomes her 439 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: main rival. They were complete opposites. So like Louise was 440 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: a noble woman of noble birth, she's himmendenence, she's up here, 441 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: and Nell is like, I'm from the guten mate, but. 442 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 5: I will take you down. 443 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: The rivalry between like Curwell and gwyn is just fantastic. 444 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 5: It's it's oh, I was like, that is that is 445 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 5: what I need to see. 446 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: If you're gonna make me a historical period drama, bring 447 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: me Neil Gwynn. Let me see backstabbing and fighting and 448 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: just sly jabs back and forth, abs fucking Lily when 449 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: so basically Louise becomes a duchess. 450 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 5: She gets an official Dutch mistress. 451 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: She becomes the Duchess of Portsmouth, and she was always 452 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: bringing up like the fact that Neil was low born 453 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: and she didn't she wasn't noble, and she would like 454 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: say things to nell like she is such pretty clothe 455 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: and she could be queen because she's been like so 456 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: sarcastic about it, and Nelle was just like okay, and 457 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: de Cartwheel look horror enough to be a duchess, like 458 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: the Duchess Louise de Carolle. She's wearing black because some 459 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: French just died, Yeah, like a French prince dies. 460 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 5: So she's like wearing all black and stuff. And Nelle 461 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: decides to do the same fucking thing. 462 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: So she comes in. Somebody asks like, who are you 463 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: in relation to this French prince and Nelle responds, oh, 464 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: exactly the same relation that the French prince was to 465 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: Mademoiselle de Carolell. So Nelle gets this house in palml 466 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: and she moves into this brick town house and it's 467 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: and it's owned by the crown, and basically nel says, 468 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: it's like, if I don't own this house, if it 469 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: isn't in my name, then it's not my house and 470 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: I don't live there, So what are you gonna do? 471 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: She said, you know, it has to be it has 472 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: to be given to her by an act of Parliament. 473 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: So that's what they do. It becomes in sixteen seventy 474 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: six she's granted the freehold of the property and this 475 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: like stays in her family until sixteen ninety three, and 476 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty the house was still the only one 477 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: on the south side of pal Mall not owned by 478 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: the crown. It's fucking glorious. 479 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 5: So the house in pal mal right. 480 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: So the bed that she has there is made of 481 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: solid silver and would cost like three hundred grand today 482 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: to have. And the sleeping quarters also had like this 483 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: suggestive warming tree for her bedroom activities, and it is 484 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: inscribed with fear God and serve the King. The reason 485 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: this silver bed exists is because Nell. Now, oh my god, 486 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: she takes ah. I love this pettiness. I aspire to 487 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: be this level of petty. Oh. So Louise de Carolelle 488 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: or Louise Cartmel as she called her. So she gets 489 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 1: this silver dinnerware from the king and it is extravagant. 490 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: And now was like, all right, okay, keep your forks, 491 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: my friend. So not only does she get a silver bed, 492 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: but she orders this even more expensive silver table set 493 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: to go along with her new furniture. 494 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 495 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: Wow. 496 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: So basically, now supporters who were you know, weren't keen 497 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: on this. You know, French born duchess. They were like 498 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: super mad that this foreign mistress was getting better gifts 499 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: and more expensive stuff than you know, their beloved down 500 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: to earth Salt of the Earth English now. But they 501 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: even started a campaign to get the king to melt 502 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: down all of Louise de Callell's like silver tableware, her dishes, 503 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: her set, her forks and everything else and pour them 504 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: down her throat. Like obviously wasn't too happy about this, 505 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: so she responds with was to say that anybody may 506 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: know she has been an orange wench by her swearing. 507 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, fair enough. Nell did swear like a sailor, 508 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: and she had absolutely no qualms about it. 509 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 5: Like she was very aware of who she was and 510 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 5: what she did. 511 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, So King Charles's second is like, so 512 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: he goes to Nell when he wants to talk about ship, 513 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: like he stresses out. He's like, what can I do 514 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: to place Parliament, Nell goes, hang up the French bitch, 515 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: referring to like Louise de Carowell. So Nel Neil has 516 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: a as a second child, named James with the King 517 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: in December of sixteen seventy one. Yeah, and Neil, being clever, 518 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: she named him after you know, Charles's brother, not because 519 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: she liked him. She thought he was dour, but you know, 520 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: she thought, eh, give a little give alo when he 521 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: sent to school in Paris, and then when he's six 522 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: he dies. The only clues of his dead are a 523 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: sore leg, which could be anything. Really, there's like speculation. 524 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: They're like it was an accident, it was poison but 525 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: you know what, we don't fucking know. Nell accuses Louise 526 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: de Caramelle of like poisoning him. So basically Nell goes 527 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: into this deep depression. She's really grieving the loss of 528 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: her of her son, and she's really guilty about it 529 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: because she's in her mind it's her fault because she 530 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: sent him away to Paris and she refused to see anybody. 531 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 5: For months talking about kids. 532 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: Charles Charles Boclerk when he's six, when he's sick. The 533 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: King arrives and Nell goes come here, your little bastard 534 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: and say hello to your father. And the King is like, 535 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: you can't call him that, and she's like, well, your 536 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: majesty has given me no other name by which to 537 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: call him, and he's like, ah fuck. So then he 538 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: becomes the Earl of Barford. And then because in sixteen 539 00:30:55,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: seventy six a warrant is passed that Charles Boclerk the 540 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: King's natural son and to the heirs males of his 541 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: body the dignities of Baron and Herrington, County Oxford, and 542 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: early of Burford in the same county. Like the reason 543 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: Nell wanted a title for her son, it was more 544 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: out of it was more fueled by jealousy than anything else, 545 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: because Nell herself didn't really ask for a ton of 546 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: stuff except. 547 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 5: To you know, screw over other mistresses. 548 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: Like that's literally it. It's kind of how our thing 549 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: was because she didn't ask for so much shit, Like 550 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: she didn't demand everything. He was just giving it to 551 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: her more so because she didn't demand it. So when 552 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: Louise de quel Will gets the title of the Duchess 553 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: of Portsmouth, she's like, bits, you better give my son 554 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: a title, after which Nell. 555 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 5: And Charles get a house in Windsor. 556 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: It's now called Burford House, and it's on the edge 557 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: of the home park and Windsor and she lived there 558 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: whenever the King was in Windsor Castle. Not only does 559 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: she have Burford House in the home park and Windsor 560 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: paul mal House, she also has like a summer residence 561 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: which is now sixty one to sixty three kings Crossroad 562 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: in London. So King Charles gets this new mistress. Her 563 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: tense was apparently so she was like apparently this runaway duchess. 564 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: She was an Italian beauty and apparently like she intimidated Nell. 565 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: So Louise de Carowell is so enraged with her tents 566 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: that she bashes her head on a bedpost until her 567 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: tense has a black eye. So Nell, being very clever, 568 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: decided to use her skills and get to know her enemy. 569 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: So she would host card games where like Carl and 570 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Louise and Hortense, they would just gamble like huge, huge 571 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: sums of money and then they would leave. King Charles 572 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: the second had to foot the bill, which is fucking glorious. 573 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: But Nell didn't really have to worry so much because 574 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: her tense was wild, so not only did she have 575 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: an affair with the Prince of Monaco at the time, 576 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: she was also sleeping with Anne Leonard. This is Charles 577 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: the Second's daughter algitimate, but still that's a level that 578 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: that's a dangerous tight rope to what when. 579 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 5: So when the king finds out, he's like, what the 580 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 5: actual fuck? 581 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: Get the hell out, So her tense gets knocked out 582 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: and Nell is back at top of the list. In 583 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: sixteen eighty one, This is Glorious, she is mistaken for 584 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: the Duchess of Portsmouth, King Charles the Second's Catholic mistress, 585 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: and this mob attacks her coach and so she leans 586 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: out the window and she and she yells to the crowd, 587 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: be civil, I am the Protestant horror, and this abates them. 588 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Sixteen eighty two, the Royal Hospital in Chelsea was created 589 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: as a retreat for veterans, and this was basically inspired 590 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: by Lizzie Valid in Paris this story. As the story goes, 591 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: she convinces King Charles to approve the construction of the 592 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: Royal Hospital for ex serviceman in the city of London, 593 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: and it's basically a precursor to what a modern VA 594 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: hospital would be. The story goes that she noticed like 595 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: this desperate beggar on the side of the road, and 596 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: she hops out of her carriage, talks to him and 597 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: discovers that he fought on behalf of Charles a second, 598 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: and she is like and she's like shocked that ex 599 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: soldiers are homeless, like they don't have anywhere to go. 600 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: She basically insists that the king takes responsibility for injured veterans, 601 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: and in sixteen eighty two the Chelsea Hospital is opened, 602 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: and when Henry German first earls and Albans dies in 603 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: sixteen eighty four, King Charles basically gives his son Charles 604 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: the dukedom of Saint Albans, an allowance of one thousand 605 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: pounds a year, and gives him the offices of chief 606 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: Ranger of Enfield Chase and Master of the Hawks. So 607 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: on the third of February sixteen eighty five, which may 608 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: or may not be her birthday, we're not entirely sure, 609 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: So the King gets out of bed early and he's 610 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: going to get Nell a gift because it's her birthday. 611 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: But while he's getting dressed, he has a seizure. And 612 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: this is basically the beginning of the end for King 613 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: Charles the Second. Supposedly the King was going to make 614 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: her a Countess of Greenwich, and she was going to 615 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: receive a noble title, but after Charles died, that went 616 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: up in smoke, and so she would stay now Gwynn 617 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. When King Charles dies 618 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: on the sixth of February sixth and eighty five, there 619 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: is he has a death wish death bed wish to 620 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: his brother James the Second, which is do not let 621 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: peer Nelly starve. James the Second ends up paying most 622 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: of Nell's debts, gives her an annual pension of fifteen 623 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: hundred pounds a year. Although so James the Second takes 624 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: over and he's like, Gwin, you and your boy you 625 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: get a switch to Roman Catholicism. And Gwen's a Protestant, 626 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: hardcore Protestant, some might say. 627 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 5: And she's like, no, thank you. 628 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 1: Being the shrewd woman that she is, she's like, I'm 629 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: an actress. I can do this. She addresses in a 630 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: Sunday best she attends church, and she basically implies that 631 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: she is absolutely considering converting, like she's thinking about it, 632 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: she's gone over it, she's mulling it over in her mind, 633 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: and this is enough for James. He's like, Okay, you're trying, 634 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: because he's like, of course she's gonna of course she's 635 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: gonna convert because I'm the king. She's gonna do what 636 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: I say. So she's like mm hmm, takes his money, 637 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: bollocks us off to pal mall, and she's quite happy 638 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: she's done. In sixteen eighty seven, nel Gwyn has a 639 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: stroke and this leaves her paralyzed all down one side. 640 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: And May she has a second stroke and on the 641 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: fourteenth of November sixteen eighty seven, at about ten pm, 642 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: she dies from apoplexy effectively. Effectively. They believe this was 643 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: because of syphilis. And I'm not surprised because King Charles 644 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: the Second was full of venereal diseases. So what is 645 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: surprising is although Nelle had what would be referred to 646 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: as a less than respectable employment, when she died, it 647 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: was an enormous crowd at her funeral, like the nation 648 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: goes into mourning. They love this like rags to riches. Mistress. 649 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: She's a concubine, and she's a courtisan, she's a horle at, 650 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call her. But as far as 651 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: everything else she was. She was loved by the nation, 652 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: She was loved by the common people. She never did 653 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: anything to show disrespect to her root. She was faithful 654 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: to King Charles the second, you know, once they started 655 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: bumping uglies, that was her. She wasn't going anywhere else. 656 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: And in her will she left gifts for all her servants. 657 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: She provided so there was money for the poor. Sure 658 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: there was money for Roman Catholics. She made arrangements so 659 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: that funds that she had that were like money would 660 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: go towards paying off the debts of people who were 661 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: in debtor's prison on Christmas Day. And something we forget 662 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: all the time is like she did all of this 663 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: well being illiterate. This is what you would call a 664 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: Cinderella story, just not in the way one would expect 665 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: it to be. I suppose. I mean, this is like 666 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 1: the more realistic version of a Cinderella story. And Nell 667 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: worked her way up from the fucking gutter and ended 668 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: up with three four households and becoming the most beloved 669 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: concubine of King Charles by a combination of wit, charm, 670 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: and poisoning her rivals with laxatives. And Nell has gone 671 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: on to inspire plays and poems. And oh oh, there's 672 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: a monument in Tring Park in London. It's called Nell's 673 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: Monument and it is the only official monument to Royal 674 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: Mistress and like the entirety of London. And that is 675 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: the story of Nell Gwin. I love now, She's just 676 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: a horror of your fucking love. Now what have we 677 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: learned today? Don't judge someone from where they come from. 678 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: Appearances can be receiving. Never underestimate a girl from the gutter. 679 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you like today's episode, I would 680 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 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